balance

[lofty depot]

i wouldve said someting like hooded basement dweller

[wicked shuttle]

amen

[delicate perch]

garys on the left

[wicked shuttle]

"idk i just do damage"

[lucid olive]

real

[lofty depot]

NHUH

[lofty depot]

when is thor loser gonna kill nexus king

[wicked shuttle]

never

[lofty depot]

what the

[wicked shuttle]

why would i need to

[lofty depot]

?

can we lock in

[wicked shuttle]

we're done raiding for the xpac

[lucid olive]

Arctic thinks your worth as a human is based on your all star rank

[lofty depot]

objectively

[delicate perch]

bros fighting the 2 boomkin players left and letting it go to his head

[wicked shuttle]

my druid was goated until i logged off that guy

[lucid olive]

ttvtettles logged in, copped a rank 1 and dipped

[wicked shuttle]

LOL fr

but yeah, we're done raiding for the xpac

i never cared to kill saladbar

[zinc merlin]

puggable surely

[delicate perch]

I still don't think my druids killed the dhs yet

[lucid olive]

I killed up to Nexus King on like 4 characters

this raid is a good alt raid angle

[wicked shuttle]

we've only been farming last 2 for like 4 weeks

LOL

[glossy jungle]

need to cash in on sales 🤑

[wicked shuttle]

sales are cringe

splits also cringe

farm sucks

gg

goated guild

[delicate perch]

[glossy jungle]

love getting gold from sales, only to lose it instantly in GCG

[lucid olive]

I'm reclearing and progging Dimensius on fury warrior tomorrow

gonna have carpal tunnel from raging blow spamming for 3 hours

[wicked shuttle]

Alt full clears made me quit raiding for 3 tiers

[sudden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/lightsaber-bug-spin-gif-20919535

[lucid olive]

it's not a guild alt raid either, it's in a boosting team trying to get Dimensius reps before starting to sell it

[wicked shuttle]

Ya I don’t really spend gold either

[lofty depot]

big content creator can buy gold if he needs it

[lucid olive]

surely he gets big donators trading him just for seeing him in Dornogal..

[lofty depot]

more likely to get an angry dm seeing ttvtettles in dornogal

thats why he playing thorloser

oh speaking of which tettles

one of our healers was like "oh tettles played with my husband and said he was good"

https://www.twitch.tv/tettles/clip/ProductiveShakingKoupreyTBTacoRight-lIeq95T1ONsqcPzN

this was like a year ago

[dense steeple]

stupid penis is keeping the feral dream alive all alone

[delicate perch]

someone yeet him from the channel

[lofty depot]

just move him up and down real quick

"whoopsie"

[delicate perch]

every hour kick someone from the discord so they need to keep bringing people in

[mighty mica]

already been doing that

[delicate perch]

[dense steeple]

would be a shame if he dc'd

[lofty depot]

just need another discord outage

[lucid olive]

this was 0 haircuts ago

[lofty depot]

[dense steeple]

truue

you know i'm kind of lowkey excited for midnight where i dont have to spend 5 minutes every week making sure all my addons and WA's are up to date

[lucid olive]

cant wait to have 7 addons just for things i used to have a weakaura for

castbar addon, buff tracker addon, minimap addon, addon addon and resource bar addon

[delicate perch]

I hope they're all made and updated by different people so if one breaks it can break the rest

[dense steeple]

truuue

[copper gate]

If I’m trying to sim strictly for SH a 3 target patchwerk sim should be alright yes?

[lucid olive]

sure

[lofty depot]

ITS GLORIOUS

[loud kettle]

That moon be full fr

[wild dune]

bonk

[native egret]

What trinkets should I dinar if I’m leveling with a 1 button rotation

[lucid olive]

Good question

Probably the Soulbinder one maybe?

[lofty depot]

i hate this guy

[dense steeple]

how much dam does it do tho

[lofty depot]

either 56k or 23k

[dense steeple]

so about as much as they do currently nice

thats not bad

[lofty depot]

ill assume 23k

tahts crazy

[lucid olive]

Yeah the stat squish isn't as big as people think

Think people expected SL level but it's more down to season 1 DF level

Like I was doing around 20k ish dps on alpha at lvl 90 with 80 ilvl gear

In perspective the gear we currently have on live is like 130

[dense steeple]

Remember the bfa squish lmao

[quiet drift]

4digit numbers are bis

[dense steeple]

went from fuckin 2mil dps to 4k lmao

[quiet drift]

Love saying "10 dps increase" unironically

[delicate perch]

10 dps increase (5%)

[lucid olive]

I am doing hundreds of damage!

At least I can turn dmg numbers back on cause they don't take up my entire screen

Dots ticking for a million each gets a bit too much

[quiet drift]

Is it not formatted at all

[lofty depot]

can crit 200k with tier set

ezpz

erhm

[dense steeple]

SHEEEEEES BAAAACK

[lofty depot]

yea but uhhhh

i aint casting that

[lucid olive]

Yeah I saw that buff show up sometimes

It's funny

The only way for you to cast Swiftmend is to hit the Convoke jackpot

1/1000 casts baby

[lofty depot]

double dryad in cds hmmm

do i get 4 buffed surges 👀

[candid lance]

how do we sim boomie in m+ ?

[candid lance]

how to sim mdt?

[lucid olive]

No I think you'd spawn the resto one that heals

Also the hero tree Dryad doesn't give 4pc or

Doesn't matter anyway since tier set disables at 81

[lofty depot]

what the fricc

[lavish hedge]

Was wanting to try out druid for midnight, as its the one healer-available class I havent tried in a long time and I like the themes of balance. Essentially the logic behind balance in midnight is build astral power, and then dump using starsurge in eclipses for the bonus%...or do I have this reversed since it also increases wrath/starfire in eclipse as well

[lofty depot]

that logic is also correct currently

build asp, spend surge in eclipse

on a ST boss, u wont be casting starfire in midnight, u would be casting wrath as your builder then spending surges in eclipse

[lavish hedge]

Okay seems simple enough, the wowhead/icyvein guides for rotation/cooldowns look seemingly the same

[meager storm]

the playstyle will barely change

unless we somehow pick moons or weaver

[lofty depot]

cds are a fun conversation and will depend on what u care about

but the idea is to use your cds with each other

[wet solstice]

Any idea what might cause dryads favor to instant fade without any starsurge casts?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aY9zcTnQVqyjK14w?fight=11&type=auras&source=29&ability=1236807

[meager storm]

u meleed the boss

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aY9zcTnQVqyjK14w?fight=11&type=damage-done&source=29&start=2677040&end=2691141&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%24179684458.0.0.Druid%24false%241236807&ability=1

[wet solstice]

Why does that matter?

[meager storm]

it consumes them

[wet solstice]

????

[meager storm]

something new u learn every day

[wet solstice]

is that a known bug or something?

[meager storm]

since beta

never fixed it

ggs

[wet solstice]

Ty for the education

[meager storm]

[lofty depot]

u should just macro nv to ca

u also often times send ur trees at the end of eclipse should do it at the start 🙂

im tilted for u

[wet solstice]

I have meant to, I just kept forgetting, ty for the reminder.

[wet solstice]

I know I should, I also often waste globals redotting at the start of eclipses rather than tail end.

[lofty depot]

fix it

[lofty depot]

hmm, they need to make natures balance balance to 50% instead of 50 asp

140 total.......

[round field]

half a starsurge wont make a difference lilbro

[maiden pasture]

https://wago.io/DryadBug

this will prevent it

[livid jay]

probably something like this is why control is bugged

[simple oriole]

Hey, my guild is currently progging mythic Salhadaar and im playing boomie, when we wipe i cant shapeshift / buff / mount, i get a red blizzard message saying "you cant do that right now"

Disabling addons didnt fix this so i dont think its an addon problem, any idea on what i can do to fix this?

[delicate perch]

don't get mc'd

don't bearform if you are

[round field]

its a game issue

blizz busy nuking addons rather than fixing gamebreaking bugs

[craggy sonnet]

port to dornogal, log out and back in

[simple oriole]

but surely this isnt feasable each wipe

[craggy sonnet]

well, dont get mc'd and presumably dont do so while bearforming

you can cancelform while stunned apparently and it might prevent it as well

[simple oriole]

even when i dont get mc'd i get the bug

its every wipe

[craggy sonnet]

how do you know its every wipe when you didnt know how to fix it 10mins ago?

but if it is indeed every wipe then no clue

i have only ever heard of it being connected to getting mc'd (and mostly during a shapeshift)

[simple oriole]

im not that shit that i get mc'd every pull

[maiden pasture]

is there any fix for "spell not learned" and ur char is just perma spamming extra action button and u cant eat

[craggy sonnet]

you technically get mc'd whenever you die in p1

unless some weird overkill idk

[simple oriole]

i know but even when we get to platforms, we die from big boom and i still get bug

[craggy sonnet]

hm

never heard of that tbh

[simple oriole]

there was another boomie in the raid which didnt have an issue all night

i ended up relogging another character to continue

[lucid olive]

Gonna need some proof for this claim cause the only occurence for the bug that's documented has been tied to getting MCd while shapeshifted

[lucid olive]

There is a weakaura linked in Compendium that prevents it

https://wago.io/DryadBug

[simple oriole]

ill record next raid so i can get some proof

[fair bloom]

how do i do double ca ramp in keys without convoke? do i just do starfire/wrath for 4 seconds where i would convoke then pop the second ca?

[round field]

uh

you go press n

open talents

and spec elunes chosen

but if ur weird and wanna play keeper in keys

dont think its worth overwriting incarns

[fair bloom]

im just doing 12s

and its pussy pulls

[fair bloom]

ok thanks ill just do single cas

[round field]

idk play feral or something

[lucid olive]

incarn spender spender treants

then spend the surges on the 2 globals after dryad dies when treants are still up

and play out the incarn window

[fair bloom]

thank you

[pallid bay]

imagine you have to use 2 separate weakauras for your spec to work properly

[fair bloom]

🔥

[blissful star]

we keep the convoke gameplay on midnight? i hate it

[pallid bay]

yeah

incarn is kinda shit and convoke just does a lot of damage

[lucid olive]

if treants stay a 24% dmg increase on low duration convoke will always be better i think

[sudden flame]

[pallid bay]

could remove treants and it would still be must pick

idk what else you would spend a point on

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-meme-gif-4079065483340370050

[royal zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-escalator-pointless-climb-meme-gif-3683462703189156096

[sudden flame]

Isn't balance just ranged feral druid these days?

[round field]

yes

but without the combo points

[sudden flame]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[royal zenith]

Ferals still trying so hard to become the main character

🥹

[jaunty blaze]

Who is feral

[drifting nova]

devs

devs are feral

[plucky valley]

I’m feral in the sense that I go crazy for balance Druid

Alternatively, I don’t think I have the qualifications to really speak on any of this. Truthfully, my WoW sun expedited back on September

My WoW sub expired back in September **

[fair bloom]

i see your mutual friends i know what you are

i was considering also letting my sub run out tbh

i was dooming hard at midnight

but i feel like most people will just forget about it a month in lol

[whole thicket]

Any recommendations on where to look up info on beta and builds people are using?

[covert coyote]

nah just do an asmongold and put "mail gold to Tettles-Moonguard" at the bottom of your stream

oops that was from a day ago

[plucky valley]

This is the funniest thing I’ve read in awhile

[fair bloom]

🤣

[craggy sonnet]

Just play whatever you feel like. Test stuff

[kind raptor]

Should I be macroing warrior of elune to something like fury of elune or keep it separate for movement and such.

[round field]

Do not macro

Macro bad

[eager raft]

I love balance druid 🙂

[lofty depot]

Rekt

[fossil shard]

This will be useful one day

[lofty depot]

Well u don't want to use woe before incarn if u have dreamstate stacks so no

[lofty depot]

Like him, it won't be it

[eager raft]

I will never stop loving balance druid

[lapis scaffold]

has someone tried to like 12boomi raid (+ buffs) and see whether the bosses melt in opener? 😄

[eager raft]

Are those really my only meaaages with “hate” in it

[round field]

No theres like a thousand

[eager raft]

I hate a lot of things

[drifting nova]

is that it?

need to up your hate

[eager raft]

But not balance druid

[eager raft]

thoughts?

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-rookie-numbers-gif-20904132

[eager raft]

I’ve only been here since January 2025

[lofty depot]

rookie numbers

[mighty mica]

at home

[eager raft]

sure ya were buddy

[lapis scaffold]

hm who is Anc 😄

[void jacinth]

@scarlet tapir

@maiden pasture

[scarlet tapir]

w

[maiden pasture]

[kind raptor]

Might sound like a dumb q but should I just go elunes in m+ even if I am just going to do up to 10s? Kind of want to learn it well but the guides say might be better to do the other simpler one.

Just was wondering since it seems interesting to learn but might not be valuable in lower keys at first.

[lofty depot]

Play what u want

There's plenty of people doing zdps in low keys

[fair bloom]

keeper is fine

keeper is better when u have pug tanks pulling like 2 packs at a time

[eager raft]

Man you’re so lucky

Getting to play with twistaimlabs is a dream of mine

[eager raft]

ur the goat

[scarlet tapir]

wwwww

how am i if u are

[round field]

Also wrong

[lucid olive]

damn you got me beat

[lofty depot]

Type shit

[fair bloom]

Hows it wrong

Like how much worse is it

[fair bloom]

Mogged

[lofty depot]

One of us is a yapper

[loud kettle]

Which

[jaunty blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-yap-yapper-yapping-gif-5642199211123099306

him

[fair bloom]

Gonna need an outside source for review on this one

[loud kettle]

Outdated tier list

[lofty depot]

Ur source can be the person that made the list.... That being gamz

[loud kettle]

Thats for last season

[lofty depot]

So gamz needs to make a new one?

Sounds like some stream content

[void valley]

Anybody have a talent tree for beta they're trying out?

[loud kettle]

Yep

[fossil flame]

Been playing the beta, I love the balance changes a lot. To me personally , a lot better then it’s been, I love the choice of when to eclipse, pretty cool

[loud kettle]

I'm afraid im going to have to quit balance druid. I simply cannot manage all of these buffs and spells without Hekili telling me which spell to cast. Goodbye everyone.

[fossil flame]

May the force be with you

[lofty depot]

Idk if it's cool

It's different, but idk if cool

[lofty depot]

Just throw some shit together, beta is for testing

[fossil flame]

Yeah I feel you

For me I just definitely enjoy it more , I’m 87 I wanna test it in raids and get more time and I’ll get a better feel

[lofty depot]

U can run roughly the same thing as now

[fossil flame]

Yeah o just been having fun with it , in general I love balance even when it’s not great
Just cool spells , fat chickens and mad stars

Still getting used to choosing dclipse , the habit of wrath wrath , starfire starfire is deep but it’ll be fine

Messed with resto a little , I was mostly resto for most of wow, feels really good too

[eager raft]

good bye

[exotic perch]

good news you can play EC

and just spam starfire, peak gameplay!

[round field]

Ew

[drifting nova]

just delete kotg

hell delete hero talents

fin

[idle forge]

they should implement auto-Flap when you double jump as a moonkin

[obsidian girder]

[drifting nova]

stop bringing up flap, it already breaks some mechanics

do not let blizzard know

[loud kettle]

Pro tip if you disengage and flap u go farther

[drifting nova]

proer tip if you do that and use a specific toy it functions like a shadowmeld

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/invisigal-dispatch-my-beloved-invisigal-my-beloved-heart-meme-gif-1325136942876643757

[azure sand]

Whats the point of using Control the Dream if Araz's fucks your cooldown timers and you're waiting anyways?

[lucid olive]

it's more for treants than anything else

you get 2nd set of trees at 30 seconds instead of 45 seconds

and you're able to hold treants for a fresh Eclipse without risking losing a use

[lofty depot]

U could sim it without and see the diff

[azure sand]

Would the sim even account for Araz being 15 seconds behind convoke and wait on it?

[meager storm]

u have to wait for trees anyways

if u dont use control u will have to wait 15s as well so at 2:15 u have ur trees up

[azure sand]

Ah well, ok that makes sense.

[craggy sonnet]

You think sim would send CDs before the trinket is up?

[azure sand]

I don't know thats why I asked

[lofty depot]

Well it holds CDs and items for it yes

Ur convoke is then 2m not 150

So idk what is diff

[craggy sonnet]

Tbf, it's only gonna be as good as the apl is optimized for it. Which idk how much it is actually

[lofty depot]

Variable.cd w.e. the fuck

#IBelieve

[craggy sonnet]

Truuuue

Just saying you can't just sim anything and expect it to be optimized equally

[lofty depot]

Yes huh

I trust my clanker overloads

[craggy sonnet]

I legit did not touch talents other than potent / grove

For example

[lofty depot]

There's a S in overloads

It means plural

[craggy sonnet]

It also supposed to mean overlords, or?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[craggy sonnet]

Some of em might have been on vacay until now

[lofty depot]

Gotta learn how to write apl so can fix for prepatch

Surely it'll be easier now

[craggy sonnet]

What's supposed to have made it easier now?

The fact we have yet another CD to account for?

[lofty depot]

Oh I didn't think it would be easier was just me thinking about some stuff

[craggy sonnet]

I trust

[dense steeple]

The clankers are the most optimized

[celest geode]

I heard you use wrath in aoe now

[lofty depot]

1. where did u hear that
2. what is considered aoe

[exotic perch]

he heard it from a crackhead on the street

but must have misinterpreted it as wrath from wow

[unborn lion]

do someone know a good nameplate profile, my is a mess right now?

[lofty depot]

for beta or

[unborn lion]

wow live

[lofty depot]

plater

i use jundies profile which is linked in the compendium

[dense steeple]

I almost had to beat the shit out of a crackhead just a few minutes ago

Dude followed me and my wife on our walk around 3 corners crossing streets to get close and then I replied to something she said and he realized I was a dude and he fuckin 180d on the spot back the way he came across the street

[lofty depot]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-any-gif-26357631

[exotic perch]

nice

beat his ass man

language of violence is universal even when ya want crack

[dense steeple]

If he was gonna be there on the way back i was gonna call thecops fr

[exotic perch]

that is the correct call tbh

even if you know how to fight

not fighting is always smarter

[meager storm]

guess who was mad i joined a 14 when this toon only has 12s done

the ret also had like 10 ilvls on us 2

[shut rose]

Average ret player

[naive laurel]

I miss insect swarm :’(

[hollow mist]

u must have been missing it a long time pal

[latent trout]

I have the following Trinkets: Araz 8/8 Hero, Parapodia 8/8 Myth, Soleahs 8/8 Hero, Prio Sigil 8/8 Myth, Antenna 8/8 Hero. And regardless of whether it's for M+ or Raid, he always recommends the same combination of Araz + Soleahs (mastery) at raidbots.

[craggy sonnet]

how bout you link the sim?

you probably have a high miss chance selected for antenna

and idk how you are simming m+

[latent trout]

M+ 5 targets 40 seconds, 1 min or 1,30 raid 1 target 5 min

[craggy sonnet]

those arent really useful sims for m+

[latent trout]

so what can i do?

[craggy sonnet]

(still surprised soleahs would come out on top)

you either just do 1t5m for m+ as well since stats barely change with target count (there are some exceptions with effects from trinkets or cantrips that dont scale in aoe) or you do a dungeonroute sim - there's a quick explanation on that in the faq on dreamgrove.gg

but still, you should link the sim if you have questions about the results

cause even that st result doesnt sound right

[latent trout]

Okay, thank you very much.

[latent trout]

What do you mean?

[craggy sonnet]

i dont see why soleahs should come out on top

[latent trout]

this one?

[craggy sonnet]

but since you refuse to link your sim, i wont try to reverse engineer what you might have done or not

[latent trout]

Thanks

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rxACpG5Kshj3crrp8Ykg46 This is my 5 Targets 40 second sim

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8MkbASTE6WWccUxpapnDU1 5 Targets 1 min.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8XjHUcunqZrxVowQV8skut at least my 5 Targets 1,30 min

[craggy sonnet]

missing em all

[delicate perch]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-dodge-neo-gif-13288848

bro is NOT getting hit

[craggy sonnet]

also is the parapodia even in the sim?

[latent trout]

yes

[craggy sonnet]

even in the 40s one?

regardless

as i said, these are not super valuable

or actionable

since as you can see its gonna favor active trinkets

[delicate perch]

these are some interesting sim settings though

[craggy sonnet]

disproportionally

[latent trout]

In all sims, I have parapodia, seal of the priory, araz, soleahs, and antenna.

[delicate perch]

• even worse for a good haste stick like parapodia that does require procs/time

[craggy sonnet]

just do a 1t5m sim for m+ if you cba'd with the dungeonroute one

[delicate perch]

ya you're picking shit items for your hero talent and forcing them to be good then being surprised by them being good

[craggy sonnet]

if you do 5min, do enable lust

[delicate perch]

bros got a raid team for his m+ sims kinda based

[craggy sonnet]

can look at the raid spec sim tho, if you got that

[latent trout]

Sure, when I do raid sim, i.e. 1 target for 5 minutes, I always use hero, except for m+ because you don't have that with every pull.

[craggy sonnet]

basically doesnt matter tho, other than maybe skyfury. and arguably there is gonna be a shaman in the party

[craggy sonnet]

but you are not supposed to sim single pulls, thats what i was saying. do 1t5m for m+ as well ooor a dungeonroute. and for that you also enable lust

the thing you have been simming is only ever somewhat true for the first pull of a dungeon

[latent trout]

Yes, I understand that.

[craggy sonnet]

and basically never afterwards

[latent trout]

If I don't use Dungeon Route Sim or the weak aura described in the FAQ, I should also use M+ 1T 5m sim. Is that correct?

[craggy sonnet]

correct

[lucid olive]

If you go through the hassle of changing settings for every sim and running like 4 different sims for m+ you might as well make a dungeonroute sim

Keystone guru is very easy

[latent trout]

i understand

[craggy sonnet]

you can do another higher target 5min sim just to confirm that you are not missing stuff that is only relevant in ST (e.g. the voidglass cantrip / set is way better in ST)

[latent trout]

I haven't looked into sim guru yet, I should probably do that, thanks.

[lucid olive]

Here's a quick 10 min guide from Shadarek about it https://youtu.be/4gGeBPuwIjo?si=SElSMD05pM6Xz0Jj

It's for havoc but that doesn't matter, it's the same concept

[latent trout]

However, my ST sim is in KoG. Should I also make an ST sim as Elune? Because you play Elune in M+.

[latent trout]

thanks

[craggy sonnet]

if you want to sim for m+, you sim your m+ talents

[latent trout]

k

[craggy sonnet]

you should redo your kotg st sim tho .. since you prolly also did that with 100% miss chance

[latent trout]

What do you mean by a 100% miss chance?

[craggy sonnet]

this

[latent trout]

Okay

[craggy sonnet]

you have your antenna set up to never collect an orb

[latent trout]

oh okay

🤦‍♂️ thanks

[craggy sonnet]

thats why i wanted you to link the sim right off the bat .. btw

[latent trout]

That explains a lot about why my Sims never use the antenna.

[craggy sonnet]

since thats not uncommon that you miss some setting that affects the result heavily

and you would prolly never think about by yourself again

[latent trout]

yeah

That's why I'm always happy to be here in the community.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rvwbNvjqAzRcTsMkwZfaP2 New KotG ST sim

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3oPayxVxK6mnyiCy6YphH2 Elunes ST sim

It's looking better already.

[craggy sonnet]

that one makes sense. would be huge if you could craft an oh and get a better ring without haste

[craggy sonnet]

also very reasonable. you could probably try if the cloak likes the haste fiber more

for that one, another neck would be huge. oh remains a good upgrade if crafted

[latent trout]

I'll simulate both again, only with the trinkets that are currently displayed, and add my hero weapons. I thought my myth weapon would be better anyway.

[craggy sonnet]

oh yeah, your myth weapon should be decently ahead

upgrading the oh to 727 crafted would be a good dps bump tho

[latent trout]

I always selected all fibers for the reshi wraps.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r7Ar1v5Pjx8sqnvQaZRurf new Elune ST sim

[craggy sonnet]

you gotta remove the fiber from your current cloak in the sim tho or have it replace existing gems to ever change it

as you can see it didnt ever try another fiber

[latent trout]

ahh

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oK93fD42q8Wp6Cp1jjQeTq without fiber in wraps

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/apDuzN2pryVibxnyesmbPb without fiber in wraps

[round field]

simming 7k int enchant as a trinket

thats great

i love it

[craggy sonnet]

yea ok. im gonna go ahead and spoil it for you that the haste fiber would be better if you were to sim a dungeonroute (purely because it helps you set up dots quicker n stuff)

[craggy sonnet]

doesnt seem like you did it correctly on this one

but i dont necessarily expect another fiber to be better by a significant margin

[latent trout]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nKJFQL7foZmtdNhrRRAdbv now its Crit for KotG ST

[latent trout]

okay

[latent trout]

@lucid olive thanks for yt guide its realy very easy

[craggy sonnet]

ye, but within variance. can click this to see the mastery one is super close

[latent trout]

okay

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/soCVoBPiWCEDuSPaAfFH1a That would be elune sim with keystone guru.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qE9uyrDYVBfAw1ZLWMN3cH That the stat weights

[lucid olive]

you didn't do this right

this is your simc addon output and not a route

the "copy to clipboard" button on the keystone guru website is a bit wonky, youre better off marking and copying everything in the box with ctrl+c ctrl+v

[latent trout]

okay i try it again

[latent trout]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9CHYDtb9CBPeHweg7b7FF5 new one

[lucid olive]

yeah those numbers look more realistic

[latent trout]

Thanks mate

[mortal hedge]

Hey, has anyone found a good Midnight nameplate addon yet ?
Because the default Blizzard one shows every Dot on the target.
I don’t want to see Warlock, Shaman or any other class Dots 💀 only my own.

[lucid olive]

playtnator

[mortal hedge]

still shows dots from other players

[round field]

Thats unfortunate

[mortal hedge]

Apparently its a bug, and hopefully they gonna fix it by next week 💀

[round field]

I rly love what they did with the ui tbh

Instead of downloading a nice class wa you have to combine like 5 addons for the same functionality

[twin lotus]

so right now in PTR, kotg raid boomie has 4 cds. 30 sec eclipse (2 charges), 45 (or 60) sec trees, 100 (or 120) CA (2 charges) and 120 convoke , and then the control of the dream applies to all of those? What the actual fuck

[round field]

Yep

Welcome back shadowlands unholy dk

[lucid olive]

and then you add trinkets with different timers to that

but i think it's easy to look at it and think that Control of the Dream or Whirling Stars is the issue when that's not the case, the issue is all the disconnected CDR talents

If your CDs were all on intervals of 15, 30. 60, 90, 120 timers it would not be as big of an issue because the timers would make sense naturally, and Control of the Dream could fulfill the function it's designed to

it's the second one of your cooldowns fall outside of that cadence that it gets confusing, like CA being 100 seconds and Treants being 45 seconds

[jade flume]

more cds = more dmg

its good

[round field]

It does kinda line up naturally without double ca shenanigins

On a 2 min timer

As it was back in undermine

Hit cd on cd and its fine

[lucid olive]

yeah you don't end up losing uses

but hitting cd on cd makes control of the dream useless

but it was still played

the value of it was more in letting you delay treants for a new eclipse

and the decision on when to send your floating CA charge with Whirling can also be cool, like on Vexie where you held the it until the amp to get both rounds during the amp

[round field]

Well the 15 sec buffer from control still puts it under "on cd"

[lucid olive]

yeah but if you dont play control you dont have the freedom to hold for a new eclipse

[round field]

Oh no without control its fucking unplayable lmao

[lucid olive]

control is used to force your CDs to align without losing uses when the design is meant to allow you to shift your CD windows as a whole for spots in the fight

like your cooldowns are puzzle pieces meant to fit together to form a picture, but all the pieces are from different pictures and of different sizes and control is super glue

[latent trout]

@lucid olive Can I also use Keystone Guru for Gear Compare SIM? If I want to know which items I should craft?

[lucid olive]

Don't use gear compare or stat weights

You can add items you don't have into Top Gear

in this box

[craggy sonnet]

Not true tho.. unless you are playing 60s trees

[latent trout]

So could I enter the crafted ring twice in the normal sim to see if that would be better?

[round field]

It is

[lofty depot]

Yes

[round field]

If you disregard the whole double ca thing

As i mentioned

[lucid olive]

add the crafted ring and then click the + icon on it to change stats/add sockets

[craggy sonnet]

Wdym.. you were holding trees for the 4min CA, no?

[round field]

Tbh

I dont remember

[craggy sonnet]

How could it line up with 45s

Doesn't make sense

[latent trout]

Okay

[round field]

If you press on cd

Youd get 4 min lineup at 255 sec

Which is within control range

Except trinket

Trinket would be held for 15 sec

[craggy sonnet]

In other words it doesn't line up

Ok

[eager raft]

Sounds like it lines up fine to me

[round field]

I mean

U macro trinket to ca

So its fine

[craggy sonnet]

At that point you are losing CD on convoke already

It just doesn't line

[eager raft]

If it’s not losing you a usage that’s irrelevant

[craggy sonnet]

Ok, but that's not what was being discussed

[lofty depot]

Was still like 420 or something

Cuz u sent trees at like 330 prob

[craggy sonnet]

Yep, no issues with our CDs. Very straightforward. Got it guys. Basically lines up natty. Except you hold convoke for 30s

[eager raft]

If your idea of lining up is everything being identical cooldowns then sure. But when you’re actually playing the game it doesn’t matter if the line up is at 4 min exactly or at 4:20 if it’s not losing you a usage

[round field]

If you press trees on cd

You can press everything on cd when it lines up without much thinking

[craggy sonnet]

Read the convo, maybe?

[round field]

Thats the point

[lofty depot]

So natty that frogs come in here, show logs, and I see them use trees + CA at 130

[round field]

You dont have to think about it

[craggy sonnet]

Obv that's not true because people mess it up and have been messing it up all of tww

[round field]

Cause its unintuitive to grasp

[craggy sonnet]

Which was the entire point of what gamz had been saying

[round field]

Im not defending it it sucks

[craggy sonnet]

Of course it's playable. Still requires you to visualize first or sim to know what you should be holding

[round field]

But if you understand how it works last patch it was fine without much thinking

Now its a pain regardless

[craggy sonnet]

Idk, it's still the same now. You basically play around trinket cd

[round field]

Nah

[craggy sonnet]

Yah

[lofty depot]

Without u reading a guide or reading someone tell u not to use CA without convoke, u wouldn't know it, and u would just send... Which is the approachability part of it

[round field]

Double single double or whatever variation on fight length is way worse than press trees on cd within control window and then pop cds when convoke trinket is up

[craggy sonnet]

How. It's legit the same.

[round field]

No its not lmao

[lofty depot]

It's the same

[craggy sonnet]

You just press the 2nd CA if it's up

[lofty depot]

Ca comes up earlier than convoke

[craggy sonnet]

And don't press it sometime random in between

[exotic perch]

the solution to all of this is simple guys

[craggy sonnet]

You still press trees on cd

[exotic perch]

just play EC

[round field]

Its like you dont play the game lmao

[lucid olive]

this tier is definitely way worse for CD planning than Undermine and Nerubar was

[craggy sonnet]

You don't play the game or the spec right now

[round field]

Cds this patch are way worsethan they were in undermine

Because of double ca tier

During tier it was dumb

Oh do i double single double

Or double double

[craggy sonnet]

The thing that's dumb is looking at which cdr talent you gotta pick before the fight

[round field]

Oh also timings are diff because talents

[craggy sonnet]

Actually playing a fight is not really hard

[lucid olive]

do I double single double with groves or with potent

[round field]

Ok i pop cd at 2 min

Oh shit boss dead

[lucid olive]

is the fight timer and stars aligned just enough for me to play groves or do i do potent

[round field]

Rip my dmg

[exotic perch]

idk man i enjoy this tier of how to do dmg

[round field]

Theres a lot of variance with talents and fight length

[exotic perch]

reminds me of venthyr where you dump your load and afk

[round field]

Which wasnt a thing last patch

Where you cd the same on every boss

[lucid olive]

the only variance last patch was bandit phases

[craggy sonnet]

Talent choice is the issue mostly. And yea you lose a lot of dmg if you don't get another CD window

But it's not super different rule wise

It's all anchored around forge

[round field]

Its not

But if you pick the wrong rule

Magic 8 ball how long will boss last

Hope i got it right hehe

[lofty depot]

tell that to stix

[craggy sonnet]

You can press trees on cd other than the very last one

[round field]

Did someone randomly run off the ledge

And now im in wrong tslents for kill time

Yay

[craggy sonnet]

I mean, that's the issue of us doing no dmg other than during ca

I'm just saying the rule didn't drastically change

[round field]

It didnt

But it requires way more planning

And has way more variance than last patch

[exotic perch]

boss dying faster is good

less time spend in farm

[craggy sonnet]

The only question that's ever relevant is, how many more trinkets do I get. If I don't get another one, I'll hold until I can fill blast

[craggy sonnet]

Agree. But actually playing it is not hard.

Harder*

[round field]

Playing isnt hard

Spec is piss easy

Planning cds is just horseshit overcomplicated for no reason

[craggy sonnet]

But the issues that folks are facing that do not have full knowledge of the spec are basically still the same and are gonna remain so

You even have another CD to play around and line up with trees

Ofc they do not naturally align

[round field]

Ye spec is very unintuitive for new frogs

[craggy sonnet]

That would be too easy

[round field]

While generally considered simple

[craggy sonnet]

Ye

And it's also very counterintuitive to what you learn from other specs where you usually get told to never hold CDs

And most of them also don't have charges

Which also seem confusing to a lot of people

[latent trout]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kNekK8ne13zBdxwY62LGup But I want to see what happens when I have the ring twice.

[lucid olive]

whyd you craft at 714

[latent trout]

Because I couldn't set it to 727 there, With Gear Compare, you can do that.

[lucid olive]

yes you can

you just didn't do it right

you can also do this

[lucid olive]

just look up the english name instead

[latent trout]

and on 714 no more augment

[lucid olive]

yeah must be a german name bug

the english one works just fine

[latent trout]

i try it

[lucid olive]

idk I put my raidbots to german and it works just fine for me

[latent trout]

same in english

[lucid olive]

yeah must be a you issue

refresh and start again

[latent trout]

i do

[craggy sonnet]

Prolly cause they don't have the resource?

Actually, should still show

[lucid olive]

no you can still ahve the option it'll just error after saying you dont have the resource

[craggy sonnet]

(I think?)

[lucid olive]

maybe some browser cookies

[lofty depot]

go to the item in your rings and then press +

u cna upgrade it there aswell

[latent trout]

thats what i do ^^

[lucid olive]

thats where hes clicking

[lofty depot]

ring still 714, "thats what i did"

[craggy sonnet]

As you can see it's not an option in his menu, mister smartypants

[lofty depot]

it will be if u keep pressing the +

[lofty depot]

look vidjeoo

silly matrixes

[latent trout]

I didn't do anything else.

[craggy sonnet]

Silly game

[latent trout]

I even closed the browser and reopened everything.

[lucid olive]

yeah its not your browser

cause when I take your original sim and re-do it your 593 ring does the same for me

but it works fine when I add a new one

[latent trout]

Even if I do exactly as shown in the video, it doesn't become 691 but 593, and I still only have the option 707, not 720 or 727. 🙁

[lucid olive]

just put 727 in the box then

[latent trout]

like this?

[lucid olive]

yes then click the item

[latent trout]

same shit again

[lucid olive]

lol

[latent trout]

yeah

[lucid olive]

go ask on raidbots discord

[latent trout]

That doesn't happen with Gear Compare, because it works up to 727.

[lucid olive]

the problem isn't gear compare or top gear

[latent trout]

I'll probably have to, yes

[lucid olive]

you probably have some setting wrong or some browser cache setting messing it up, but i'm not smart enough to figure out what so the raidbots discord might be more help

[lofty depot]

can u make it 707 then change it or

[lucid olive]

no it wouldn't use any gilded

[lucid olive]

#balance message if you just rerun his sim and try to change his ring you'll see too

[lofty depot]

that sounds like a lot of work

im setting up my beta ui

weird

707 ring

723

[lucid olive]

yeah but that doesn't work with the ring thats already in there

[lofty depot]

yea but i make new ring cuz his ring is clearly german engineered and broken

[latent trout]

That surprises me because German products are always top quality and not Chinese goods xD

[lofty depot]

china company made a fake german company and is selling knock offs

ruining the good name of germany

[latent trout]

I set my game to English and then used the sim string. Now it even goes directly to 727.🤣 🤦‍♂️

no words needed xD

[lofty depot]

england on top

might have to fix something here tho

[kind raptor]

Going to try some balance in keys don't think I have ever really done that lol. Wish me luck haha. I guess main difference in elune is you never use solar even on ST which isn't the same for grove. I guess will try grove since the guides seem to say it's probably more efficient for pug / lower keys.

[lofty depot]

it says that but that assumes u have 5 people with hands

and in most lower keys theres 1 or 2 people without

[kind raptor]

lol. right 🙂

[lofty depot]

but ec is very easy to pick up... dot things that live long enough. foe incarn spam starfire and use starfall so u can spam more starfires

[kind raptor]

Yeah seems like it will be fun. So far did aff/destro survival, unholy and feral. Kind of neat to play a caster druid with some of the perks of feral.

[lofty depot]

perks of feral

....

[lucid olive]

he means percs of feral

cause theyre all off the perc

[latent trout]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/x92j6cWRw5W2nGy7YV7QR8 The sim is finally over, but I want to see what happens when I have the ring twice, not just once. I've seen many streamers playing the ring twice in M+.

[lucid olive]

yes you have to add another

[craggy sonnet]

the ring you have is already basically a better crafted

so no reason to try really

[lucid olive]

yeah it probably wont beat the eco dome ring

[craggy sonnet]

you should look to craft an oh instead

[latent trout]

ah i click it again

[latent trout]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oeaV7vQyHpznMJwE2S6b27 finaly sim

[stone ledge]

31 minute sim

[lucid olive]

yes, dungeon route sims are like that

[delicate perch]

maybe your dungeons

mine are way faster..

[jade flume]

Mine are like 6mins at most(+10 sailor's abyss)

[sudden panther]

Anyone have a good balance talent setup for midnight beta

[lofty depot]

cant tell if its good cuz i dont have sim

go test some shit

[delicate perch]

[woven flint]

how can i test things if i dont see how much damage each build is doing ?

[lofty depot]

u test how it plays

test some talents to see what they do and how they interact

and u can see how much damage they do...

u just cant see it in a sim

[woven flint]

true

i have no idea if this is even worth it

also why is entering eclipse on the gcd

that feels so awfull

[lofty depot]

it used to be 2 gcds

[lofty depot]

getting a free CA

sounds pog no?

[woven flint]

from the dummy it didnt proc that much

but my ui is a potato to

free ca sounds pog though

[lofty depot]

20% chance, not deck

soooooooo yea u can just get unlucky

granted its CA without the haste..... its gonna suck not having say trees when it proc

[lucid olive]

well

you see how much dmg its doing by running the sim

but in order for the sim to be built you need to test how individual talents work

if theyre functioning properly or are bugged

thats why you test, thats what alpha and beta are for

if you want to see how much dmg youre doing you can also just log

[woven flint]

we appreciate the hard work you do gamz

gl witht hat 🤣

testign next week is gonna be so fun

[craggy sonnet]

You can log, technically

[lucid olive]

gg

[woven flint]

can you share :p

[woven flint]

ty ty

[lucid olive]

syndicator and baganator are for bag addons so they dont matter much

[woven flint]

is there n ocode for palcement

you know what you do in the edit mode

[lucid olive]

probably but its not hard to just place stuff where you want it

MidnightSimpleUnitFrames is the blacked out health bar and target frame, the Resource Bar addon you can find and configure in edit mode

[woven flint]

i cant get the icons close to eachother

there is always a small place

thats open

yours seem directly next to eachother

[lucid olive]

Cooldown Manager Tweaks addon lets you change the gap between the icons

the addon looks weird at first, but in the box that says like 1,3,4,3 you just put 8 instead

and then the horizontal and vertical gap is at the bottom of the addon settings

[woven flint]

a ty ty

[craggy sonnet]

Can watch quazii video

[woven flint]

not gonna show you what i ahve

but yours look sexy

[lucid olive]

yeah quazii did a video on cooldown manager tweaks

[woven flint]

ty for the help

[lucid olive]

the bar below and above the health bar are just normal action bars that i put there just to mimic how my live UI looks

[woven flint]

will fix it tommorow going out soon

so we basically have 4-5 addons

to do what elv ui did 🤔

[craggy sonnet]

Elvui does a few more things

[lucid olive]

yeah it also mines bitcoin

[craggy sonnet]

But surely there is gonna be replacement suite addon in case they are really not going to continue elvui

[woven flint]

also your buff tracker seems also kinda stacke dis that also from the cd manager tweaks ?

[lucid olive]

sure, but its also just 3 icons in there

so it doesnt get off center

i just track solar, starlord, lunar

and cosmos is tracked in a bar next to it with the width at the lowest

[lofty depot]

change the padding

[lucid olive]

the tracked bars look hideous though

[meager storm]

no

pretty sure its not even a deck

[lofty depot]

its not

[meager storm]

that sht wont proc in a single pull sometimes

dogsht talent either buffed or removed

not worth

[lucid olive]

yeah its not a deck

would be more useful if it was i think

but i have had like 3 procs in a row once that was pretty nice

[delicate perch]

Just proc it? Simple?

[muted citrus]

does this work for raid frames

instead of class colour or just green

[lofty depot]

suppose not yet

[muted citrus]

[clear pulsar]

i couldnt get it to work with boss frames either

[muted citrus]

x2

[lofty depot]

my cast bar look breaks like every hour

so uhhhh work in progress ;P

[lucid olive]

Yeah channeled spells return some secret value so they're breaking

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/invisigal-dispatch-my-beloved-invisigal-my-beloved-heart-meme-gif-1325136942876643757

[lucid olive]

I just finished my first playthrough

That game fucking owns

I was invisigal simping the entire run

[meager storm]

W

[lucid olive]

Goty candidate

Think Split Fiction was better though

[lofty depot]

badass

and when u like update icons it breaks sometimes too

needless to say, im a bug reporter :/

[meager storm]

e33 winning goty

not even close

but it was good

[delicate perch]

how long did it take

tempted to get it because our fellowship 4th is afk for 2 days

[meager storm]

its like hour and a bit per episode

and its 8 episodes

like 9 hours idk

[jade flume]

e33 is one of the best games ive ever played on god

[meager storm]

top 5 all time

[kind raptor]

Should i be using a cancel dream state macro out of combat saw that in one video ?

[delicate perch]

Yep 100%

[glossy jungle]

unhalted started work on his unitframes

[true viper]

bis frames

midnight unit frames prob good enough for testing

[glossy jungle]

yeah

need a castbar addon though, anyone got a good one that works?

[lofty depot]

quartz works

as does the blizzard frame one

but gamz said channeling fucks it up

[ripe slate]

saw some tweet about dominos so ive been using that, has cast bar too

i do get a lua error when i channel but the cast bar stays working regardless

[loud kettle]

Gonna be real amusing when I end up using more addons next xpac than current

[pliant tiger]

You need to upgrade it 2 times for some random reason to get it max ilvl.

[wicked hare]

if u were given the option the play balance without moonkin form (stars inclusive) would u then rather play it no form ?

[round field]

ye

mookin form ugly as shit

dont care about stars either its just the alternative to not have to look at the dumb fucking owl

[bleak mesa]

Hey Guys, when im in m+ build, do i use starfire to build astral power in single target when im already in lunar ?

[round field]

Yes

[quiet drift]

L

[round field]

Ok glyph of stars user

Whatever u say

[echo gazelle]

Finally took the time to learn how to balance even a little bit - it's awesome. KOTG is way more fun than EC for me, though - hiding behind the trees keeps me safe. Also, without glyph of stars, this spec is unplayable

[delicate perch]

I got too many questions about all that and I’m scared of every answer

[exotic perch]

Well glyph of stars is heresy

If you want to play moonkin you must be ok looking like a dumbass chicken

Its the law

[echo gazelle]

I don't play by anyone's rules, not even my own 😮 Glyph of stars boosted by dps by 69%

[lofty depot]

Glyph of stars users wish they were mage

[merry ibex]

I feel personally and accurately attacked

[round field]

green parser spotted

[exotic perch]

I am solidly purple ok

[round field]

in lfr

[exotic perch]

Wait you do Lfr still?

[lofty depot]

well inqi does yes

[exotic perch]

The true casual so him using glyph of stars to cosplay a mage makes sense now

[round field]

my sub expired

oops

[junior spear]

am i tripping or we can just remove wrath from our bars if going for lunar calling ?

[lofty depot]

how wil u get into lunar eclipse?

[junior spear]

counting on fingers yeah you're right i'm tripping

[exotic perch]

P sure in beta you can tho

[lofty depot]

in midnight maybe.... but its not like u should be deleting buttons on ur bar cuz u dont use it

[junior spear]

yeah i was thinking about midnight : the question was more wether i keep wrath on a usable binding or not

like switch from ctrl-1 to ctrl-alt-shift-f12

[lofty depot]

lol cuz ctrl 1 is a usable bind for a spammable button like wrath

[junior spear]

1 is usable and ctrl is a mouse button so yes 😔

[exotic perch]

Ctrl is a button on the keyboard...

[echo gazelle]

Actually I'd say it's more I wish I was void. A void cat that shoots void bees out of its mouth

What are some tweaks to the KOTG kit to make it viable in M+? Anything besides switching trees from health to melee dmg?

[severe hollow]

I only see strg on my keyboard

[exotic perch]

Goddamn europeans (i assume)

[mighty mica]

wtf is strg

[hollow mist]

deutsch version of ctrl

[mighty mica]

cursed

[kind raptor]

Going to test it but I guess flap doesn't negate movement effects like the pull from last boss in arrakoa ?

[delicate perch]

Yeah test it and report back

[severe hollow]

I also have alt gr

on my keyboard

very altgryly

[severe hollow]

highly recommend to test it in remix on kiljaeden too

[tender elbow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hhrBW92dxEwpqFvxndgPgn

team how can i get higher than this? Go double versa over Vagabond's torch with nerubian embe?

[lofty depot]

change that

haste bad

haste bad

haste bad

[tender elbow]

anything with haste baddage?

[maiden pasture]

every week i pull up to fracty and forget to take off my haste gear from soul hunters

[tender elbow]

@lofty depot tyty

[lofty depot]

fractilly first surely

[craggy sonnet]

Btw only change that for big sim number. Make an actual decision for each fight tho

[maiden pasture]

why

why would u walk forwards then backwards

[lofty depot]

5 eeler vs 3 or 4

[maiden pasture]

when u can just do in order

[lofty depot]

raid swap take more time

[maiden pasture]

5 healing soul hunters

😭

[lofty depot]

da

[maiden pasture]

we 3 heal both

[lofty depot]

good guild

[maiden pasture]

even in boosts we 3 heal both

[lofty depot]

i dont trust my monkeys

[lucid olive]

3 heal soul hunters with 3 buyers lol

[maiden pasture]

surely 4 heal at least

no shot u need 5

[lucid olive]

arctic really in pisslow

[maiden pasture]

5 is criminal

[lofty depot]

like 5 people dead

skill issue

[craggy sonnet]

new guild when?

[lofty depot]

new year new guild

[craggy sonnet]

who wouldnt take a gary

[dusty bluff]

So are we just supposed to like… CA -> Eclipse -> CA -> Eclipse -> repeat on beta? I know it was mentioned in some feedback on forums, but that seems weird. If their goal was to have eclipse be less of a maintence buff… it looks like our time in eclipse is still going to be insanely high

[lofty depot]

for the first minute it might look high

[craggy sonnet]

it is still high

but its not maintenance in that you always just gonna go straight into it

@lofty depot i hope you are ready for a lot of funny looking logs to review

[lofty depot]

"why are u surging out of eclipse"

[craggy sonnet]

why do you not have eclipse up when trees are ready

[lofty depot]

why are u sitting on eclipse forever

why r u dotting in eclipse

why do u have no asp entering eclipse

[craggy sonnet]

i swear spec gon be unplayable

if you dont invest time to look at a timeline planner

and understand how shit works

[lofty depot]

whats gonna be real badass is seeing 11 wraths in a row at like 130

lock that in real quick

[craggy sonnet]

big elunes challenge window

[drifting nova]

glyph of stars users wish they had brain cells

[lofty depot]

shooting stars does mroe dam than wrath

(without tier)

[craggy sonnet]

spec grove inspiration

[lofty depot]

lol

3k * 10% is still only 4.2k

and it hits for 200 more

is w.e. should be fine

[craggy sonnet]

more than shooting stars

[lofty depot]

just looks funny

[craggy sonnet]

i hope they are still going to do something about it

only beta guys, right? still a lot of time to change things, right?

[lofty depot]

yeayea surely

[frank spire]

guuuuuyssss can i get some help ?

im playing on legion remix and i want to do balance of power quest chain BUT i didnt see The power within quest npc on my class hall

what can i do ?

[covert coyote]

nothing, you've exhausted all your options

[frank spire]

There's just something I didn't do (but I did everything, like the Azsuna quest chain and the class hall quests)

any advice?

[lucid olive]

you need to wait like a day

the image of kalec npc will show up eventually

[frank spire]

rly ? soo i dont need complet all the campaign quest ?

[lime pelican]

Hello, what is the de facto guide for balance m+? im experienced in m+ but new to balance. any top tier players i should follow?

[lofty depot]

compendium might help

uh dwilkz krona usually push

dwilkz main hunter now tho

doubt theres many boomkin mains

they all likely swapped to ele or bm

[lime pelican]

why? still seems to deal good damage, no?

[lofty depot]

if ur a top player u play multiple classes

and why play a worse one

[lime pelican]

just speaks of how low the skillcap of the game is if you're not rewarded for sticking to teh same class

since u can just reroll and master a new class in any given season

[lofty depot]

maybe the skill cap is good and if you can play multiple classes its better than maining and rolling the dice on 1

[quiet drift]

I need log review

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZxP2Qj7wbAHVFDMv?fight=39&type=damage-done

How to do more dmg on this boss

[meager storm]

crit ur surges

[lofty depot]

stop padding on fake mobs that dont count

[meager storm]

hope that helps

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-17474838830648097856

[lofty depot]

102 like 20m low

[quiet drift]

ye idk

Only boss

That I just parse low

every week

[maiden pasture]

pot damage amp not pull