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rare shoal
lofty depot
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dont believe u so dont really care

rare shoal
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I can make stuff up too, its actually really easy

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Anyway, when are you going to give us the goods

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If you are just gonna troll then get lost

delicate perch
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this is what happens when paper gets banned #freepaper

mighty mica
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how is that related

delicate perch
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he would've bullied him out of here already

mighty mica
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what's stopping you

delicate perch
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I am a nice Australian gamer

mighty mica
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sure

delicate perch
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positive vibes or w/e

glossy jungle
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#freepaper

meager storm
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Dentge 🔨

dense steeple
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Im a big gray parser. Link yours

rare shoal
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Homie gave up

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Got his feelies hurt nobody took the bait dracthyr_comfy_sip

dense steeple
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Damn

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Im at a concert so I'm a little behind

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We in between sets now

lofty depot
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why are we at a concert on saturday?

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its football season

exotic perch
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he lives in not columbus so football really doesnt matter on saturdays

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well and not even sundays

exotic perch
iron chasm
delicate perch
iron chasm
delicate perch
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same, wow is dead

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log in, kill boss, log off

iron chasm
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Yeah I have become an Aram gamer again

delicate perch
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wait worlds is tonight LOG IN

dense steeple
dense steeple
exotic perch
dense steeple
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Sell in a C city in Ohio

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Still*

exotic perch
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still ohio rip

uncut roost
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People live in Ohio?

dense steeple
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Its not all bad. Tourists stay away

exotic perch
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its quite cheap its got that going for

dense steeple
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We pay 6k a year in property tax or so

exotic perch
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i live in the rich city of kansas so my property taxes are low

hollow mist
round field
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Bootypoop

potent cargo
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man

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dont go looking at ur stream trade history bro

sage axle
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you guys think on remix, a 584 ilvl dps with 900 IP or a 740 ilvl with 50 IP, which would do more dps

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my friend is arguing that gear means nothing and i believe gear is multiplied with IP, i think the 740 wins every time, he thinks gear dont matter lol.

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we dunno whos right, idk where to find a training dummy to test it

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my friend is literally insulting me constantly thinking hes right but he refuses to even test it on dummies lol

delicate perch
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by 900ip do you mean 900% vers?

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that's such an odd argument though how are getting that without getting gear you're both special

sage axle
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it is a weird argument lol isnt gear multiplicative with IP?

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so 584 ilvl with 900 IP seems like it would be worst than 740 ilvl with 50 IP

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its a dumb decision, but my friends hell bent on believing 900 IP would dominate at 584 ilvl. while I think it wouldn't do much without the stats from 740 ilvl so 740 with 50 IP does better

round field
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both u and ur friends are dumb

sage axle
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we are haha but hes insulting me heavily for this opinion, so i just want a second opinion

craggy sonnet
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I'll also start insulting you heavily if you continue wasting energy thinking about what's optimal in remix

sage axle
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fair fair haha but this guys spamming me for an hour and wants to bet me 1mill gold

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so i wanted another opinion before i bet him

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this is all dumb af and he wont acknowledge my opinion at all

lucid olive
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having an opinion about it at all

delicate perch
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You’re both kinda right, but 900% vers is quite a lot so that might do more damage it really depends on the spec I guess? Maybe?

lucid olive
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Sim it

delicate perch
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Based

lucid olive
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can make a profile with shitton of vers

sage axle
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Wish we could sim it lol

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God damn my friend is mad

lucid olive
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you can sim it if you care enough

sage axle
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Can we sim remix??

round field
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No ICANTT

sage axle
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lol

round field
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Why are you suprised

sage axle
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i was wrong lol tested it

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584 800 IP is better than 740 50 IP

craggy sonnet
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unlucky

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pay up

sage axle
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ya, lost some gold

round field
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Makes sense

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A lot of dmg comes from item effects

void jacinth
dense steeple
void jacinth
rocky flame
lament sigil
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@royal zenith hello deux hope you’re having a wonderful day. Beta soon wavering and tier lists starts!

lucid olive
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I can't wait for m+ testing on beta to start and everybody to watch week 1 Pit of Saron gameplay and then be omega doomer about the dungeon even after they fix it

royal zenith
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lfg tierlists

mighty mica
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👎

drifting nova
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not that wrath has many dungeons that fit it

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one of the utgarde dungeons could work

lofty depot
lament sigil
eager raft
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remember that guy that told u to shut up the other day? I owned him for u

hollow mist
ionic oak
severe hollow
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you lose like half of your secondaries +prolly on avg like 8k mainstat per slot weapon maybe bigger, but there is a lot of mainstat + the 900% extra dmg on the IP

rocky flame
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skoll glorp

supple pine
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I have heard people say, that you sometimes need to stop casting due to the KotG tier set. When and why does that happen?

craggy sonnet
supple pine
craggy sonnet
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fired

shy void
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what are you guys doing for moonkin day

potent cargo
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rerolling

delicate perch
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logging out

severe hollow
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the hatchlings are big pumpers

merry ibex
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For those of you whom have killed mythic salhadar how did you prio the add phase in terms of what you put damage into, since I'm running pure ST build with no dot extenders Im not sure exactly how to play it

lofty depot
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i moonfire 1 or 2, moonfire titan, sunfire all.

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solar eclipse, wrath spammed, starfall spammed

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my side titan was dying faster than the little adds

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and u do no damage to any of it anyway

merry ibex
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thanks

sterile comet
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Hey all, another boomkin nooby question - are we supposed to use both charges of Chosen of Elune in the same pack after the first expires, or save for next, in an M+ scenario.

delicate perch
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you would usually want a cd for the start of each pack, but some pulls are big enough/long enough for both to be sent, first pull floodgate is an example of that

sterile comet
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Thank you for the feedback!

sage axle
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remix next phase tues or next tues? i am getting told diff things

somber goblet
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19

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november

sage axle
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thanks

delicate perch
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boomkin disc always so helpful

sage axle
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it is

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wowhead guide recommends BoAT talent but idk why, i got 89% crit right now and even when i get BiS ill prob have 50%.

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think ill change that talent

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crit means alot less when you have a ton lol

sage axle
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this counts for starsurge right? just switched from BoAT to that since I got 90% crit right now

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Remix don't matter anyways, its all for fun. I just like big numbers

round field
sage axle
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yah

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so thats better than boat ig

vale pebble
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its crit damage instead of crit chance

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its good with boat because u have 90% crit

sage axle
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?

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why would I want 20% crit chance for a few seconds dimishing fast if i got 90% base crit. idk, other games, crit value goes down quickly if you got high crit. tho i do want to replace gear so i have max 50% crit

vale pebble
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what

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if u have 90% base crit

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yea u dont spec boat

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u spec that

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i guess i read wrong a bit

sage axle
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Okay thats what I was wondering. I assume I don't want much crit in remix. Im 737 ilvl so I am almost ready to min/max gear

sudden flame
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how bro got 90% crit chance 💀 is this some legion remix shit

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if so just press

sage axle
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Yeah its remix

sudden flame
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the fucking button

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who cares about talents

sage axle
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M Raid I can AFK but I wanna push like +60 in M+

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Since I got CE, kinda just want to mess around on Remix. See how far I can push in M+. I know its pointless tho PogCat

quiet drift
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Everything is pointless

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Only thing that matters is your own enjoyment

round field
royal zenith
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Lemix*

round field
royal zenith
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how dead is wow atm though

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what are we gonna do for weeks more

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oh right we get beta this week right

round field
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wohooo

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i get to play without addons early!!!!

royal zenith
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yeah it will be really hard to keep track of 3 mechanics

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and 2 abilities

round field
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i dont care about that

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its ugly

royal zenith
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oh noooooo

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no gradient hp bar, oh nooooooooo

round field
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problem is base ui is hideous

crude cargo
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cant wait to build my cooldown manager guys

royal zenith
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saaaddddd

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it will be ez pz

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and customizable

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for sure

round field
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i mean

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im not raiding anyways

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so we

royal zenith
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so you have plenty of time

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to create the perfect base-ui

round field
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🤮

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(i already play base ui because elvui nukes my pc)

crude cargo
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base personal bar is kinda bad

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rest is mostly fine

round field
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wrong

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raid frames are borderline unusable

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boss frames are unusable

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nameplates are unusable

vale pebble
sage axle
round field
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when someone mentions wow

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they arent talking about remix

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hello kitty casual gamemode

pallid bay
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when someone mentions remix

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i just think

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play a arpg instead

royal zenith
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^

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it's basically collecting transmogs, which you can also do in the main game

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(which I will not be doing, ever)

sage axle
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ive got tons of mounts/pets/toys tho lol

round field
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wheres ur hall of fame achievment

tawny cloud
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is there a dryads favor dmg tracker Weakaura thats decent? i seached Wago and the one that popped up said RIP outdated

ionic surge
lucid olive
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Just do it on your main once a week for a few weeks and you're fine

royal zenith
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I do need to gear my 2nd char

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also it's the concept of collecting transmogs

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not the actual time spent

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cause yes lemix is by far more efficient

crimson helm
lucid olive
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but theres no reason to track it so nobody really bothers making one

crimson helm
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I see. I dont think thats needed honestly since you always get it full guaranteed through Convoke or the two big surges, ye...

ionic surge
pallid bay
round field
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pretty usless

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thats why no one uses it

void jacinth
maiden pasture
quiet drift
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Dryad damage tracker Convoke spell tracker

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For maximum damage

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Details ontop my character

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Unlimited Parseworks

maiden pasture
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asmongold damage font too

quiet drift
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This

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Get flashbanged by numbers in aoe

maiden pasture
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how else will i know how much my starfall does

quiet drift
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Maximum periphereal vision blocked

royal zenith
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I will never understand

vale pebble
lofty depot
maiden pasture
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have 7 different keybinds for the same ability in the middle of your screen and say its for pvp reasons aswell

ionic surge
maiden pasture
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yeah useful in pve for sure

ionic surge
royal zenith
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Change them

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or else

ionic surge
ionic surge
# royal zenith or else

What are you going to do huh ? Book a nice restaurant, take me out on a date and give me a kiss on the lips ? I'd like to see you mrowing try

royal zenith
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nevermind, keep them the same!!

round field
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if u play pvp dont even enter same establishment as me

ionic surge
round field
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cope

lofty depot
ionic surge
lofty depot
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Good thing I play more osrs

tawny cloud
tawny cloud
tawny cloud
lofty depot
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U could use it to see how high u can get the storage 🙂

crimson helm
lofty depot
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Int when the dryad expires

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No u still use trinket before cuz of convoke

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Could do some fun nexus-king command tech to see how high it can go

crimson helm
sudden panther
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Is it possible to still get the hidden artifact appearance for druid?

mighty mica
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yes

sudden panther
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Do you have to get very far in the Legion questline for it?

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I assume you can only do it in retail right?

mighty mica
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should be available on remix, they fixed the vendor not selling the buyable part

sudden panther
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So what do you have to do to get the base hidden appearance?

mighty mica
sudden panther
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How do you get the sunbloom though

mighty mica
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?

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read the post, the sunbloom is a combined between the solar flare and sap which are bought from a vendor and a drop from dht

sudden panther
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Looks like I also have to max out rep with dreamweavers

sudden panther
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Do you have to complete dht on a specific difficulty?

supple glen
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Get max rep with Dreamweavers, buy the Seed of Solar Fire from the vendor and then farm the first boss of Darkheart Thicket for the Sap

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The sap is a 0.6% drop chance

sudden panther
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Does it have to be on mythic?

supple glen
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no

exotic perch
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also its probably bugged in remix

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so i wouldnt suggest spending all day spam running dht

sudden panther
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Are you able to buy the seed on another class than druid? Cause my druid isn't max rep yet

exotic perch
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no its druid only

blissful star
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hi guys im starting progress over dimensius mythic, and my treants looks a bit bug

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its normal?

delicate perch
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They should look like trees

exotic perch
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maybe he was playing too much silksong that everything looks like a bug

lofty depot
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What do they look like

delicate perch
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Treephobia mode enabled they all look like spiders

cursive vigil
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Hey guys, on Nexus King should we starfall or starsurge on the phases with both Nexus King & Royal Voildling ?

Most guides say Starruge on 1-2 targets.

But seen logs with Voidling taking starfall damage ?

lofty depot
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But if you're not taking kindling (u shouldn't be), u only would Starfall during platform if need be

livid prairie
lofty depot
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do the rotation correctly

livid prairie
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let me go dummy

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cause end of first ca always feels awk to me ye

lofty depot
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stop sending surges at the end of eclipse

lofty depot
livid prairie
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ok you just insta re-ca?

lofty depot
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u press ca after convoke

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yes

livid prairie
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then send surges

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ok

lofty depot
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u want those buffed surges with new ca and trees

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sooooooooooooooooooooooo

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normally at 2m u want to trees 2 gcds into ca

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so then ur buffed surges at the end still get buffed by trees

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on fractilly when the fight lasts 3:20

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u should be holding your 3rd ca+convoke til 4th ca is up

livid prairie
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Ok that way 2nd ca still gets value from trinket?

lofty depot
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i said the reason

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the trinket sure... but the reason is trees + new ca

livid prairie
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Okay

lofty depot
livid prairie
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I will send it again with that in mind

lofty depot
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ur starlords are all kinds of fucked

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tragic

livid prairie
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I will practice my tree's and 2min convoke and then i'll look at starlord a bit more

lofty depot
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well theres 2 reason for it

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actually curious cuz i do some funny cancel starlord stuff

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need to see gamz

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we know hes not a gamer, so he does the normal shit

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yea

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its just ur ca weird timing

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and then ur pooling correctly

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but its ur timing on the starlord is fucked

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where his 2nd ca ends at 19

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So yea just do the ca correctly and the starlord will be better... Surely

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Press enter

livid prairie
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.

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I think the starlords will fall into place more naturally with timing of the fight when i fix this no?

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But I haven't been playing concious of it tbh

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i'll try keep my mind on starlord more as i play

lofty depot
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Well where that ends is when u would be spamming surges at the end of ca

livid prairie
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Right

lofty depot
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But pressing CA will help it yes

livid prairie
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I'm practicing it on dummy atm

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and seems smoother

meager storm
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guess who

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well

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my name is there

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unlucky

livid prairie
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can't get flamed

lofty depot
livid prairie
lofty depot
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Silly wabbit

meager storm
lofty depot
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That's u waiting for trees

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Is fine

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Should just spend 1-2 and cancel when u enter new eclipse with trees 🙂

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That's what I used to do lol

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U could do the cool tech dak

meager storm
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i imagined that was the play but i wanst caring when i was just gearing the toon

lofty depot
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Smh

meager storm
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what does cancelling before convoke do if u want to cancel for 2nd ca anyways

lofty depot
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No clue tbf

meager storm
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alright

lofty depot
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Clanker tech

meager storm
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suspicious

lofty depot
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U could likely just cancel for ca's and be fine

livid prairie
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Do you macro cancelaura into your CA?

lofty depot
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Some of us do

livid prairie
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Because then i'd need to think less about it as I go into my 2min convoke

lofty depot
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It isn't a thing we recommend tho

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Was gonna say think it's better for the later convoke

livid prairie
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I think it has no real purpose in the opener but what are the reasons not to macro it?

lofty depot
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Well idk funny tech

lofty depot
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Well I would go look, but the sims are expired

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Tier over :/

livid prairie
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Ok

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I kept some of the things in mind and parsed slightly better.

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Main thing I forgot was

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tree's 2 gcd's into CA.

lofty depot
livid prairie
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pugs b pugs

lofty depot
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u should be saving ur 2m cd

livid prairie
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i did

supple pine
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Im doing the 2x CA opener, but when I press my 2nd CA after Convoke has happened, the 2nd CA only lasts exactly as long as my dryad. am I overlooking here sth obvious?

livid prairie
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or maybe i played correctly then

supple pine
lofty depot
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ur in range of a pvp dummy

supple pine
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oh lmao

lofty depot
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and or hitting one

livid prairie
supple pine
lofty depot
livid prairie
craggy sonnet
meager storm
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i see

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tomorrow all r1s i have been banking crits

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got a couple of 0/8 crits so surely tomorrow its 8/8

lofty depot
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that math checks out

lofty depot
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@meager storm I was about to join raid

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but saw u and i wont be made famous

jade flume
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Man, is there dot tracking in cooldown manager on beta?

lofty depot
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like how the weakaura works... no

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but yes

meager storm
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it lights up when its on pandemic

lofty depot
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doesnt desaturate iirc

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and the line ticking around the icon does something funny iirc

grim epoch
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Does anyone know why I have a bug where I have to log in to enter a dungeon or raid, or to use a portal or hearthstone? legion remix

jade flume
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Are my logs gonna get invalidated for the pre pull healer trinket thing

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or can i abuse for free

lofty depot
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they will get invalidated

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but u could hit a big crit

jade flume
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damn gg

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Man i got fucking frontaled on nexus king today

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and we 1 shot the boss obviously

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and i was feeling that pull too

lofty depot
meager storm
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just me

sage fulcrum
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Hey guys, hope you're doing well. Starting M Dimmy prog tomorrow night and wondering if there's anything particularly difficult I need to look out for mainly just looks like a ton of movement.

lofty depot
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just learning hte movement

meager storm
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dont die

lofty depot
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theres plenty of boomkin pov's u can see

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i use bark on first puddle drop, usually healer covers 2nd... and i use renewal for 3rd

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but the big damage u have to worry about is puddle drops and the soak aoe

sage fulcrum
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Yeah I've watched a few and it looks like it might be a bit more straightforward than having to randomly cyclone people on Saladbar with like 6% haste to save the pull lol.

lofty depot
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just ignore those people dying

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tell them to play better

sage fulcrum
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So just bear all big hits til I feel out how much it's going to hurt and get greedier as the healers get more comfortable easy.

lofty depot
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<@&114146878353833984>

lofty depot
sage fulcrum
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yeah, the pre-turbo boost vods from boomkins look pretty safe without them bear forming all the time. Turbo boost HP levels should make that even easier.

lofty depot
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yea for the most part its like that

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sometimes it depends on timing

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i have some troubles on the 3rd soak

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but yea its mostly just dodging shit and reminder on u knowing u have excess mass or knowing u need to dodge it

sage fulcrum
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Yeah looks pretty straightforward for boomkin.

lofty depot
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and then yea depending on where ur spot is u can make some movemetns with wildcharge easier

sage fulcrum
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Easy, thanks for your time 🙂

maiden pasture
round field
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Brown amogus is wrong

royal zenith
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Arctic is also not wrong

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Getting mc’d on saladbar big bad

lofty depot
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dead

craggy sonnet
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Congrats

quiet drift
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Gz

craggy sonnet
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Also got it done on rekill last night. Getting up from the bench is hard.

sage axle
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how much vers do i need on remix for a +50 lol

lofty depot
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i was critting 120mils all night

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last pull i crit none....

sage axle
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damn

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is there anyway i can get rid of my key

lofty depot
ionic oak
sage axle
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so im stuck with a +2 forever that ill never do lol

ionic oak
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until reset you get a new one

craggy sonnet
lofty depot
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SHUT UP RAT

sage axle
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Whats your crit lol

lofty depot
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50%

craggy sonnet
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Missing orbs, hey?

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Surely would have been crits

lofty depot
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so true

craggy sonnet
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Not even 100

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Unlucky

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Can't miss a regrowth

lofty depot
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CRIT 57mil in p1

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had 789m total dam....

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cant crit in p3

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smhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

craggy sonnet
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Critting in p1 just so you can dmg stop earlier

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So smart

lofty depot
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TYPE SHIT

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gotta get all the damage before others

sudden flame
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imagine if you could actually use your cooldowns on cooldown on dimensius as a 2 minute spec

craggy sonnet
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Don't want this in my video game

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Too much fun

lucid olive
lofty depot
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i figured people would die

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so i then try to get double ca at end

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no one died :/

lucid olive
lofty depot
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so true

lucid olive
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This why you play Voidcore on that fight

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It's just impossible to pick orbs in P3

lofty depot
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meh i wasnt even trying and only missed 30%

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have to call out circle for people cuz brain rot

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have to ping for left group

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gary carry :/

maiden pasture
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we did dimmy without any damage stop yday, kinda chillington

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but thats cause this spec is w.e for CD timing with or without damage stop changes like a single CA usage

sage axle
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whats good ways to power level? is normal dungeons best or? me and a friend both CE are carrying a friend from 76 to 80. i feel like norm dungeons is slow

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is there a good spot we can just pull a ton of stuff to kill

lofty depot
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Held like 10 seconds in p1 and a bit for push back

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3% tomorrow surely worse

sage axle
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who should i ask about power leveling? helping my friend is slow

vital hound
craggy sonnet
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there are probably powerleveling spots but idk

maiden pasture
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we did no dps stop and had to 3 heal cause absences, quite the wombo combo

lucid olive
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On the north side of the island from what I recall

fair bloom
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is it always better to save both ca's for a double ca assuming the fight time will allow it?

maiden pasture
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if you wont lose a usage of convoke yes

lucid olive
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But on reclears and lower timers you just send double CA twice

fair bloom
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lorrgs shows like nexus king and dimmy being the only real 5+ min fights

lucid olive
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Yeah for NK you do 2 1 2

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For Dimmy it depends on your push timers for P1 and first platform

fair bloom
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alright thanks. can i just send single ca's every time after the on pull double ca if im unsure on timings or does that fuck with convoke

lucid olive
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I'd rather default to always send double CA tbh

fair bloom
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kk

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holding convoke for the 2nd double ca is ok right?

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assuming you do 2 1 2

maiden pasture
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you convoke on the 1 and 2

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every CA goes with convoke and trees, only exception if if they wont come up before the fight ends

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whether you to single or double that rule applies

fair bloom
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alright

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like fract all logs are just 2 2

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im guessing thats coz its a 3:30 fight right

lucid olive
#

Ye

fair bloom
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ok ty

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also am confused how potent enchantment ties in, do i lose much just running it on every boss

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1.5min timer is so nice

lucid olive
#

Just depends on what timer you're looking at

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For the hard bosses you generally play Potent

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But if you can get 2 rounds of double CA on the fight playing Groves then that's better

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Groves probably better for Dimensius if you play 2 1 2 as well

craggy sonnet
#

realistically, you can play it on every boss unless you wanna go for a big parse

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spares you the tilt when being off on your kill prediction by a few secs and missing your last surges because of it

fair bloom
#

yeah i dont mind losing a bit of a parse to get my full ca out

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ty

craggy sonnet
#

i mean, the idea obv is to always be able to get your CA out

fair bloom
#

well

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i meant like have it line up easier

craggy sonnet
#

but you gotta make the call as to whether that requires potent or not

fair bloom
#

yea

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alright ty for the help

exotic perch
maiden pasture
#

Just vibe it out

fair bloom
#

How can I check antenna miss chance using logs?

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oh there's 2 astral antenna buffs

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nvm

livid prairie
#

log gore

lofty depot
#

Smh didn't put Total Eclipse in the table.....

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Fun and interactive talents >

drifting nova
#

I cant read

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whats the tldr

lucid olive
#

oh Tettles fixed it

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this is what it looked like earlier kekw

drifting nova
#

hmm yes I remember cenarion ward

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wish it was just a drudi spell tbh

wicked shuttle
#

Bro I swear

wicked shuttle
#

“Add additional information”

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lol

lofty depot
idle flame
#

ARE YOU GUYS EXCITED FOR MOONKIN FESTIVAL?

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I guess not

dark lance
#

is balance still shit? waiting for it to feel good to play since legion

true viper
#

nerfed ggs

indigo tinsel
quick plank
idle flame
#

Can someone explain this sticker to me

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Are we excited for the event or are we hoping to get the pet

lofty depot
lofty depot
lofty depot
#

Idk u tell me?

dark lance
meager storm
lofty depot
#

SL S4 - DF s1 areas

meager storm
#

anything with pulsar

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my beloved

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syzygy proccing from pulsar was so fun man

#

omgbruh

idle flame
quick plank
lofty depot
#

Legion/bfa is how I preferred mastery/eclipse elements

dark lance
#

empowerments > eclipse for sure

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eclipse just feels shit

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also it makes the gameplay pretty boring

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with spamming mostly 1 button

maiden pasture
#

I miss her

lofty depot
#

And empowerments literally >

dark lance
#

yeah but them talking about what they want to do and knowing what they need to do to achieve that are to different universes

wicked hare
#

Why no patch notes for boomie so frigging long now

dark lance
#

look at the midnight blue post where they make eclipse a seperate button

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but theres still hope im the stupid one and i dont get it

wicked hare
#

Like do they not know what to do about boomie and that’s why it’s radiosilence ?

lofty depot
#

What notes r u looking for

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??

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Did u read any of the alpha notes or

dark lance
#

the ones where they talk about eclipses being annoying maintanence and making it annoying maintanence

wicked hare
lofty depot
#

Can't tell if trolling

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The changes are all in alpha notes from weeks ago

wicked hare
#

Must have missed it tho I thought I were quite thorough

dark lance
#

2 weeks ago is when i last checked

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"Developers’ notes: The design of how you enter and maintain Eclipse is changing in Midnight. We’d like to introduce more gameplay to it. Eclipse before Midnight is so important that you immediately drop everything to refresh it when it ends. There’s no timing or strategy to it, and it can be a struggle during phases with high movement. In Midnight, Lunar Eclipse and Solar Eclipse are an active ability that instantly enters Eclipse for 15 seconds, has a 30 second cooldown, and can be talented to have two charges. The goal is for Balance to prepare for each Eclipse and choose the perfect moment to activate it. Depending on talents and the pacing of a fight or dungeon, you might have an Eclipse up 60-80% of the time. You’ll want to spend your time in Eclipse spending Astral Power and dealing damage, and your time out of Eclipse building resources or refreshing DoTs to prepare for your next Eclipse. Balance’s Mastery has been changed so Sunfire and Moonfire no longer increase damage targets take and Waning Twilight has been removed. This allows Balance to start dealing damage faster and improves its strength in split cleave fights. Moonfire and Sunfire’s damage will be tuned to keep them as strong, efficient damage dealing spells, but the damage of your other spells will be less conditional."

lucid olive
lofty depot
#
World of Warcraft Forums

Hello everyone! Here are the notes for Midnight Alpha week 3: CHARACTER LEVEL Developers’ notes: With each phase, we encourage players to make a new template character and avoid using their previous characters as they could potentially be in a broken state. After making a new template character, make sure to talk to Questzertauren and he will...

dark lance
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if you look at the talents, you can chose stuff to basically have it up around 85% of the time, while still having 2 buttons on gcd to even enter it

lofty depot
#

Should be all of them

dark lance
#

looks like same same but different to me

lucid olive
#

and what do you mean 2 buttons on gcd to enter

lofty depot
#

He means, he doesn't know how it works

lucid olive
#

it is what it is

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if you say Eclipse is a maintenance buff you either misunderstood what they did with Eclipse or you have another definition of what a maintenance buff

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or both who knows

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that doesnt mean i'm thrilled about them making it a cooldown, i think adding another 2 charged 30 sec cd to a pool of 3 other different duration cooldowns makes it unapproachable for new players to figure out all the rules of when they should optimally send their cooldowns

vernal trellis
#

i come from the future

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boomkin bad

lofty depot
#

Feedback post "hey we would like less silly cdr talents"

Blizzard "here's a new CD and a few more cdr talents"

lucid olive
#

well

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it was more like

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Feedback post: "hey, X is a problem, also Y is a problem"

Blizzard: "okay, removed X and turning it into Y"

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so now we have Y²

lofty depot
#

Y⅔ + X⅔

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Didn't remove control

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Likely didn't or can't fix bug

wintry umbra
#

am i reading the datamined changes wrong or did they just nerf the dryad

round field
#

ofc they nerf the dryad

dark lance
#

idk, imo it doesnt chance anything making eclipse into a cooldown, its like selling me shit in a different colour

round field
#

it goes from tier set to an ability

lofty depot
#

Dryad was doing a lot

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But tuning isn't really that big of a deal right mow

wintry umbra
#

true just doesnt feel great to see the first change since i think yall made the feedback post be a nerf lol

round field
#

holy

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ur playing

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30 sec cd 45 sec cd 110 sec cd 2 min cd

#

this spec legit shadowlands unholy dk

lofty depot
#

It'll be fine

wicked hare
#

Remove eclipse make incarn when we pop of imo - eclipse can’t be fixed time to bury it

drifting nova
#

eclipse is king

wicked hare
lucid olive
drifting nova
drifting nova
# lucid olive

one of these days I'll change my pfp and you're done for

maiden pasture
lucid olive
#

and for us its not only 4 different cooldowns with different timers and duration, its all the random flat CDR talents as well

#

its impossible for anyone picking up moonkin to try and make sense of it

#

just look at all the people sending their 3rd CA at 1:30 and a solo convoke at 2 minutes, players don't even know how CDs with charges work

nova ocean
#

Ya that's the biggest thing I want them to fix. People want some complexity in the spec but playing spread sheet manager with 4 desyced CDs is not it

lofty depot
#

Well people assume because they have the CD up, they need to use it

nova ocean
#

That kinda should be the correct thing lol

lofty depot
#

Well it's a charge ability sooo not really no

nova ocean
#

Ya but the other CDs arent

lucid olive
#

I mean, the current season is an exception, but CA being a charge CD isn't a bad thing

#

Having choice in when you use your floating charge during a fight can be engaging

lofty depot
#

No boomkin beta streamer

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Smh

nova ocean
#

We really shouldn't have a talent that makes it possible to have CDs line up it should be a option for if u want to hold longer

lucid olive
#

whats there to stream

cursive mirage
#

moonkin is perfect hence no changes

#

wym

lucid olive
#

same boring content as last week on alpha

cursive mirage
#

IM TRYING ARCTIC

lucid olive
#

yo folty

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get a guild on beta set up

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i need a neighborhood

cursive mirage
#

based

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I will as soon as I can get a character made

lofty depot
cursive mirage
#

the copy character stuff is bricked atm

lofty depot
#

Try to go online idiot

cursive mirage
#

I guess I just make a template

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🙁

lucid olive
#

yeah i'm busy leveling in Minecraft so take your time

cursive mirage
lofty depot
#

.....

cursive mirage
#

LISTEN MAN

#

just gotta be ready to talk to these guys whenever they are done yapping

drifting nova
cursive mirage
#

character creation is so bricked

lofty depot
#

Don't u have to level to 90 anyway

#

Tragic really

drifting nova
#

just swipe

cloud citrus
#

Transmog is disabled for the week. rip my testing

true viper
#

they really not touching the class anymore

#

thats crazy

sudden pawn
#

its how the cycle goes
alpha -> get minor/major rework
ignored till .1
talents swap positions
30% wrath buff
30% starfall nerf

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phew that was alot of work, cya in 13.0

cursive mirage
#

froyo about to make me doom into the sun

cloud citrus
#

i mean pretty sure it will be fine

sudden pawn
#

ya itll be fine

cloud citrus
#

as long as we arnt first week TWW status

sudden pawn
#

its just alpha Clueless

cloud citrus
#

which was aactually insane

sudden pawn
#

its just beta Clueless

#

its just release Clueless

#

its just the week before the raid is out.... Aware

cloud citrus
#

ok but boomy was fine in the beta and they changed stuff last second which was what sucked

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and the rework half way through the tier was actually insane

#

boomy was fine all the way through TWW

sudden pawn
#

🤨

lofty depot
#

"rework"

cursive mirage
#

I think you must not realize that boomy = balance druid in world of warcraft

#

oh this makes sense

cloud citrus
#

Treckles #1

lucid olive
#

we clearly did not play the same expansion

cursive mirage
#

he is a member of a terrorist organization gamz

#

we do not negotiate with terrorists

cloud citrus
#

pfft

fossil hemlock
#

Keep your hopes up gang, guardian has gotten 2 rounds of positive changes in a single alpha cycle so anything is possible at this point

dark lance
#

never trust in blizz

cursive mirage
#

look at my hair. Very sick

lucid olive
#

polygon druid

meager storm
#

impepega rising

lucid olive
#

what boss

lofty depot
#

Soulbinder

meager storm
#

nah random heroic plexus im 713

lofty depot
#

Damn kek

lucid olive
#

smh

meager storm
#

100 tho

#

totally not the extra 3% helping

cursive mirage
#

@lucid olive log in

lucid olive
#

huge

cursive mirage
#

guild neighborhood maker is bricked atm. I shall update when it is working

lucid olive
#

yeah i cant even make a character so its fine

jade flume
#

how the helly do i get into beta server

#

anyone knows some hacks

lucid olive
#

buy midnight

jade flume
#

ok done, whats the next step

cursive mirage
#

gotta pay the extra $180 to get your character created after buying epic edition

#

simple

jade flume
#

how much gold is that

vital hound
jade flume
#

its clicked

lucid olive
jade flume
#

I think i missed the crucial step of being a streamer

#

maybe next time

vital hound
lucid olive
#

didnt buy the most expensive version of Midnight gg

#

poor

vital hound
cursive mirage
#

I am so mad! Blizzard give me my money back!!!

lofty depot
#

Folty bought land but ain't got houses

cursive mirage
#

i'm not a boomer in wow apparently. Can't afford a house

#

wcyd

lofty depot
#

Brokie

vital hound
#

@lucid olive fix my beta

supple pine
#

Im having abysmally low haste levels due to raid, would you guys still run EC for keys?

vital hound
#

keys?

lofty depot
#

Get some new rings and neck

#

And yes u still run EC in keys

lofty depot
#

Who's got th CD manager link?

lucid olive
#

character creation failed character creation failed character creation failed character creation failed character creation failed character creation failed character creation failed character creation failed character creation failed

vital hound
#

i gave up

#

nek week

royal zenith
drifting nova
meager storm
#

shout out glorpies again

ionic oak
#

soooooo. are we good in midnight or wah

supple haven
#

what did they do to WC

lucid olive
#

Winston Churchill?

#

idk i think he died of natural causes

supple haven
#

wild charge

lucid olive
#

mmm, nothing?

supple haven
#

relogged and its back to normal - was flinging me in a random direction

maiden pasture
#

were you in dawnbreaker by chance

supple haven
#

nope just in dorn setting up ui

craggy sonnet
#

so, anyone can show off new haranir racial abilities n stuff?

cursive mirage
#

pretty dope

craggy sonnet
#

lookin real good

cloud citrus
#

holy this is going to be a lot to set up UI wise rofl

lofty depot
cloud citrus
#

cant track 4 set buff ;<

#

has any got the damage meter to work

jade flume
#

No its not implemented

eternal monolith
#

Anyone have a build yet?

meager storm
#

?

#

play whatever they will change sht around

delicate perch
#

well?

lofty depot
#

build for levelign or

eternal monolith
#

Leveling, Yes.

craggy sonnet
sudden pawn
#

i got a build but im not saying

lofty depot
quiet drift
#

Bis since 9.2

merry ibex
#

harronir boomie form rules, bald bois roll out

somber path
#

harronir boomy currently you must use one of the ear options on the beta

trim crag
#

is there something i should be doing with cyclone on mythic nexusking

potent cargo
#

havent done the fight honestly no clue what ur talking about but

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im assuming u clone the mc people

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if that's that boss 🙂

trim crag
#

oooo wait can you save them

vital hound
#

Yep. If they get MCd you can cyclone and they'll survive

#

Just don't let it expire

#

But also don't do it, and make people play the fight

lofty depot
trim crag
#

ah gotcha!

#

thanks!

lucid olive
dense steeple
#

jokes on you

#

my team kills them

craggy sonnet
#

tbf, its generally safer to have them cloned for as long as possible .. less opportunity for them to throw out some random cc that kills someone else

lofty depot
cloud citrus
#

ye the hunters on my team press 1 black arrow and they insta dead

meager storm
maiden pasture
jade flume
#

Based advice

#

Stop ruining my parse 📉

vital hound
#

people gotta learn

solid heath
#

Does anyone here have insight if its possible to play 1 min convoke and still do damage in raid? My spontaneous reaction is that it would not work as you are kneecapping the convoke damage when doing back to back CA

round field
#

no

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1 min convoke sucks

#

big sim says its 450k dps loss

wet cloud
#

You can only do one person at a time.

livid jay
#

cyclone is 4 seconds right?

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so yea if u start cast at 5 its fine

#

but not earlie 😄

royal zenith
#

or recast?

wet cloud
livid jay
#

i usually cyclone once at start and then start a cast again at like 4

wet cloud
royal zenith
#

I also don't think you should hyper optimize cycloning

#

better focus on actually not getting mc'd

#

it's a nice-to-have if you are in the situation of

#

that's about it

livid jay
#

ofc

#

it also does raidwide damage

#

so not always good

wet cloud
#

Ideally no one would get Mc’d on reclears pepoclown

loud kettle
#

Does that regardless

royal zenith
#

reclears stinky on nexus

wet cloud
#

Still it does kinda feel nice to have a mini game to save people

royal zenith
#

agreege

wet cloud
#

Fairly hype to do

livid jay
royal zenith
#

and you all cyclone the same person

livid jay
#

xD

loud kettle
#

I dont know the feels

#

Only druid life

round field
#

i dont cyclone

royal zenith
#

I mean it's just annoying tbh

round field
#

ur mcd because u died

royal zenith
#

it's a cast during a knock

livid jay
round field
#

im not a miracle worker

royal zenith
#

which doesn't do damage

round field
#

when u die die

loud kettle
#

if im not at raid we just don't have motw

#

No alternative druids

wet cloud
#

I’m the only druid in my mythic team as well, balance boyos

#

We actually kinda pumpin on m dimmadome

livid jay
#

yea

#

ST at least

#

but i find the damage amp cringe af

#

too short

round field
#

ur cringe af

livid jay
#

maybe

wet cloud
#

It’s funny to have 3 elemental shamans and just me at the top of the meters, and I’m beating them, when they got cleave boosting strat

royal zenith
round field
#

well thats cause ur bad

wet cloud
royal zenith
#

but that's because balance druid is practically useless to what's important for the fight

#

you look good on details meters, that's true

loud kettle
#

I just healed that fight

royal zenith
#

killing adds

round field
#

wrong

royal zenith
#

boss damage is whatever

#

easiest to optimize

livid jay
#

iqni speaking from experience

wet cloud
#

First platform me and the 2 mages nuke the mini boss

round field
#

without boss dmg boss doesnt die

royal zenith
#

really?

#

you think?!

wet cloud
#

And p3 huge damage

royal zenith
#

so a frostdk is pretty much just as valuable as a balance druid @round field ?

wet cloud
#

Also transitioning at 2:45 is real important you can’t just focus adds

royal zenith
#

thoughts??

royal zenith
#

log out

round field
#

less valuable

#

no raid buff

wet cloud
#

Lmao

loud kettle
#

er

royal zenith
#

typhooning to get adds in check

round field
#

you overkill everything ynyways

royal zenith
#

balance druid will do it

#

lfg

loud kettle
#

2:45 for p1 you have to actually hold dps

wet cloud
#

Yeah just make the priest dominate mind nullbinders

#

Ezpz

royal zenith
#

hell just don't play with dk's at all tbf

round field
#

?

loud kettle
#

Yea we just dont hold

wet cloud
loud kettle
#

Hold dps is cringe

wet cloud
#

That’s kinda rng on my crits frankly

#

Sometimes I hit too hard, same with the mages

loud kettle
#

7 seconds is a lot

wet cloud
#

Not when 3 seconds of it is knock back and positioning

royal zenith
loud kettle
#

?

wet cloud
#

You can push right after knock back and hit 2:45

royal zenith
#

is the rest of your group not doing damage at all?

livid jay
#

pushed at 2:20 on monday xD

jade flume
#

We are pushing at 1 min

wet cloud
#

I’m not the raid lead man I just got told to plus 2:45 and that’s what we do lol

jade flume
#

What boss are we talking about though

wet cloud
#

Dimmadome

livid jay
#

dimmy

royal zenith
#

seems we push around 2:20ish ye

loud kettle
#

We did nerubar skip for ansurek mounts

wet cloud
#

I wish that mount was cooler

loud kettle
#

First 2 dying in first set of cds is very amusing

wet cloud
#

First tier mount can’t be crazy tho

loud kettle
#

Ansurek has no mechanics cuz you just kill everything before mechanics happen

jade flume
#

What even is the mount from ansurek

wet cloud
#

recolor

loud kettle
#

beautiful model

wet cloud
#

It’s nice sure but a recolor of the mount that is there already is meh

#

Ovi’nax Mount pls

loud kettle
#

I was being sarcastic, the mount sucks

wet cloud
#

I want stupid ovi’nax as a mount

loud kettle
#

Broodkeeper rides u not the other way around I fear

wet cloud
#

Off topic but, I’m super underwhelmed by the apex balance talents

jade flume
#

Thats an ugly ass mount

#

No wonder i dont member

wet cloud
#

One is literally just a talent we had already

loud kettle
#

Better to just think of apex talents as leveling perks

#

Its all it is anyway

jade flume
#

Tbf dimmy mount is also ass

wet cloud
#

Marksman gets aimed shot always crits and crit = more crit damage

#

We got kinda ass

#

Redesign full moon, make it apex