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maiden pasture
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Both

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2x on use and neither are forge

fossil hemlock
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Last I simmed, forge isn't better than other trinkets for EC

naive raven
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I did pick up parapodia (?) after this dungeon as well because double on use was annoying me 😅 .

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And dreamstate is a good shout

maiden pasture
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quite a bit of downtime in your 2nd press of incarn

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sorry for late response I went out for lunch

round field
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Pressing dots in incarn

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Yuck

proven swallow
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Any tips for nexus king on boomie? Just started prog

fossil hemlock
maiden pasture
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your end goal job on moonkin is very easy

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2x CA pull,
CA + convoke at 2 mins (target the dragon if you're progging)
2x CA during kings hunger
probs just CA+convoke when its back up since it wont live long

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but as said above, early in prog you can just send your CA+convoke on the platform as you often get there without many people alive when progging and you will crank the titan

dire osprey
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On our kill pull blizzard decided to disable my cloak (1st pull of the night)

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Was stuck waiting down below while the gang flew to the platform

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then fucking died ofc

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Had to relog for it to start working on the portals again

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so cringe

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all those wipes only to get blue balled on the kill

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now im stuck collecting dimmys blue balls with my dragon

crimson helm
# proven swallow Any tips for nexus king on boomie? Just started prog

First of all: Have cyclone specced and look up how to save people with it when needed.
First phase: Barkskin the heavy dot for better survival. You can use bear form to better survive the claws, shouldnt be necessary after nerfs and current overgear honestly, but helps out healers especially in early pulls since they need to get a hang of the quite big hps this fight.
Your CA-usage, as mentioned, should be like already mentioned:
2 CA at start, 1 CA + second convoke right when dragon lands next to boss.
After dragon lands and convoke, you can have treants for platform and even look whether you can use another set of treants right when coming down from platform (watch boss timers when Amp phase is about to come, it varies depending on which platform is faster and comes down first).
2 CA + third convoke on dmg Amp (dont forget to have the right hero talent for reduced CA-cooldown ofc).
1 CA + 4th convoke in last phase whenever ready with treants and your trinket.
With current gear your group should really not struggle on platforms when you at all get there cuz u either live enough to be there or die through too many mind controls when dragons lands or big aoe cuz beams werent played properly.
In short: I wouldnt bother practising using convoke on platform.
What will, however, come very handy for progression, is having enough dmg on drake to kill him in amp phase. Therefore, pump your second Convoke into it to get extra damage on drake and thats why I once more wrote the treants usage right after the dragon lands (-> to get the most drake dmg in). If Drake dies in Amp, Boss comes down with 30-35% into last phase which speeds up the phase (and therefore the progression on it) which is huge.
Rest is not rly Boomer specific, learn the strats step by step.
To see the spirits charging at you better you might get a WA to set your graphic settings to see them better and/or use a darkness potion, this might help too. Not mandatory ofc.

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Sorry for wall of text, I just killed it with my guild, wanted to share a bit what helped me on the kill 🦉

wicked hare
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I feel like boomie misses something cool to press like ascendance for shaman I guess we have incarn and convoke but they don’t feel epic to press anymore kinda just rotations spells

lofty depot
crimson helm
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Its just a somewhat dull burst sequence, ye ... The only little joy comes when looking up Surge Crits from Burst. My biggest was 110 million if I remember, quite funny still ^^

wicked hare
lofty depot
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Read my name

sudden flame
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i dont wanna

craggy sonnet
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Apex bolts basically ascendance lava bursts

wicked hare
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Yeah but more bolts seems kinda boring imo I might be wrong tho

lofty depot
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Random proc shit do be boring

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Welcome to wow on Xbox tho

craggy sonnet
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No random

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Tho?

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They look cool. But yeah, we don't have big popoff stuff in the kit

lofty depot
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Well yes random, total eclipse

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But I meant any one of our random procs

wicked hare
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I just feel like it could have been something like being able to summon a mega mushroom the poison an area and the explodes for big dmg in aoe like once every 2min or something

lofty depot
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U mean like our tierset from undermine

wicked hare
royal zenith
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should talk more often in here about what gcd's and best ways to play the actual fights as bamkin

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as a channel

lofty depot
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FM doesn't work, so big mushroom doesn't work

wicked hare
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As I mentioned in general I feel like Druid as a whole is losing its nature ties unless u are resto, but that’s just my opinion, but having a cool unique power that ties us back to nature could be really cool

wicked hare
lofty depot
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U got some trees, u go a dryad, u got some faeries

crimson helm
lofty depot
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What else u want

lofty depot
wicked hare
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I want wildstalker thorns on boomie too xD

royal zenith
wicked hare
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Make sunfire a choice node with wildstalkers bloodseeker vines (call them shadeseeker vines or smt)

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I would be happy with a glyph for it xD

drifting nova
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who gave you the title of chef

wicked hare
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Um I dunno if I’m cooking xD

craggy sonnet
lofty depot
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Clanker wrong, tragic

maiden pasture
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Banger visual effects, instant dots cast, big impact

maiden pasture
royal zenith
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there's an argument for not swapping cd's around too much, else people will start to rely on specific damage patterns

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just communicate with the group/raidleader

maiden pasture
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Yeah, our RL would call if anyone should send CDs on the platform but he's also 21st man, might be annoying for a RL playing to make that decision on the fly

void jacinth
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even tho using those gets you zero replies in other discords

royal zenith
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Good addition to the convo

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Proud of you

wintry umbra
royal zenith
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basically when they are mindcontrolled by oath, you cyclone them

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aka they missed their spirits

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so technically they're alive after the explosion happens (and the dragon comes down) so they can break free again

wintry umbra
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and that breaks the mc?

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or is more just to not deal with the mc ppl

royal zenith
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from RLE discord

wintry umbra
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damn thats a solid tech then im guessing mythic its a bit less brain dead simple to avoid being mc

royal zenith
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you can see person getting MC'd during explosions, obv keep him alive

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don't delete him smile

wintry umbra
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cool

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thank you

jade flume
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Its better to conveniently forget to spec cyclone from my experience

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But it doesnt work that well after 10th wipe...

lofty depot
crimson helm
# wintry umbra damn thats a solid tech then im guessing mythic its a bit less brain dead simple...

At the end, the goal should be to play the P1 rather flawlessly, however its a useful tool to be able to save the tank or a healer from death in P1 or even before drake lands.
In the last pulls of my guild before kill, we got pretty consistent with not getting mc'ed and it was only required rarely and by max 1-2 people. For that we had a Resto and me who could save them and we were good to go.

The strat is simple: Once someone gets mced, you insta cyclone them. Two things happen from that: They dont hit your raid and people from your raid cant kill them (if a melee gets mc'ed, they get cleaved off too fast in my experience unfort).
However, the MC lasts about 8-9seconds, your cyclone only 5-6sec (not sure), so you gonna have torecast it at some point towards the end of the duration.

The MC works the way that you get mc'ed once you die and after the end of the duration (if not killed off by your raid) you take your hp in dmg, explode in raiddmg and die.
In cyclone, you are immune though, dont take your hp in dmg and just get back to normal.

crimson helm
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It is indeed ngl.

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And justified us druids being in the fight along with our fancy burst in amp phase ;P

lofty depot
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Justify 👀

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I do big amp damage. Make boss die faster

royal zenith
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we actually do good ST damage

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but the issue is that the important fights require add damage

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specific add-damage

misty vapor
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Hello, i have a question concerning trinkets for dimensius, is it better to have the fractilus trinket or antena ?

lofty depot
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Depends how good u are at grabbing orbs

misty vapor
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one of my guildmates told me that the orbs are bugged on dimensius, is it true ?

lofty depot
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What is bugged about them

misty vapor
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apparently they don't spawn on the platforms in p2

lofty depot
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Not true

misty vapor
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ok

lofty depot
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They can also spawn while ur flying

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Big Crit buff

tawny cloud
maiden pasture
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who did you assign

ionic oak
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The person who did the least damage to the dragon

sterile comet
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With eclipse being a button press in Midnight, do we have a choice of which one activates?

lofty depot
snow elm
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I don’t like the new eclipse system

lofty depot
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Who

sterile comet
lofty depot
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No, wrath activates solar

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So u won't be pressing Starfire anymore

sterile comet
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That was my confusion, if we were still casting the opposite. Thanks!

quaint wave
lofty depot
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Depends on what's going on I suppose but assume very little to never as keeper in raid

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The only reason u ever did before was for eclipse so

exotic perch
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youd prob press starfire if you see aoe coming up

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so you would enter lunar for it

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that is the concept of the new eclipse and what the old (current) version did extremely poorly

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the beta version is so much better

jade flume
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But they are not listeners

lyric kettle
lyric kettle
exotic perch
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at least sark was a banger

delicate perch
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reclear was always fun though

lofty depot
lucid olive
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How is that ironic

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The ghosts are considerably harder to deal with in melee

exotic perch
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love when they stack on the boss

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really hard to tell where tf it is

lucid olive
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I just stood in bear during triple ghost as feral

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As moonkin it's so free lol

potent cargo
vital hound
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@lofty depot what the

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the neck is sick right

round field
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No its bad

vital hound
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gg i took it

round field
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Noob...

vital hound
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i meant the memento btw

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not the desp

round field
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Memento bad

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No mastery

vital hound
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🫘

craggy sonnet
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not having saladbar neck

round field
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L bozo

craggy sonnet
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gg

vital hound
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ill just loot tonight

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ezpz

lucid olive
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id rather craft neck

craggy sonnet
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taking neck to loot neck

lucid olive
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or take soul hunters neck for EC

craggy sonnet
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nice

lucid olive
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yeah real gamers dont need sockets anymore

vital hound
lucid olive
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i took dimensius cantrip ring from last weeks vault

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just for fun

vital hound
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yea i have sockets

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coming out my rear

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i also

craggy sonnet
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spire big ec gaming

vital hound
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just dont care

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innit

craggy sonnet
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ye

vital hound
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sheeptwo has spire so maybe take him for sh

lucid olive
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i might start taking sockets again so i can craft some EC pieces

vital hound
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catch me dead

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doin allat

lucid olive
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but i already got rank 2 soul hunters and i dont do m+ so

junior violet
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heroic antenna vs mythic signet of priory 😬

vital hound
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powerful

lucid olive
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choosing between those 2 is kinda weird cause you wouldnt replace one with the other

junior violet
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mythic track Azhiccaran Parapodia holds the other slot

lucid olive
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a sim will tell you for sure

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id take myth priory probably

lofty depot
lucid olive
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mythic antenna not very hard to get

junior violet
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I'm a pretty terrible player so sims rarely match my actual gameplay 🤣

lofty depot
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have u considered not being terrible

junior violet
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put some real effort into it a decade back or so... then gave up 👍

lucid olive
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you should sim anyway

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gearing decisions dont rly change if youre bad or good at the game

ionic oak
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Damn antenna not A1 choice?

lucid olive
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heroic antenna isnt no

ionic oak
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Ohhhh im blind

lofty depot
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decade back?

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unc, please

lofty depot
lofty depot
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why ur numby so low

lucid olive
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hasnt checked off the raid buff option probably

ionic oak
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teach me the ways

lucid olive
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it makes 0 difference for ur results

lofty depot
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idk shit be low

loud kettle
lucid olive
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but monkey brains inflate their numbers cause they think it makes them not weirdos

lofty depot
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i be a weirdo

vital hound
merry ibex
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is crit a bad stat for the elune tree?

lucid olive
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generally worse than haste

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but your sim will probably feed some crit and vers in there to balance it out if you got a bunch of mast and haste

tight skiff
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What miss chance for antenna should I typically sim at for m+?

lucid olive
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Look through one of your m+ logs and see how many you missed

tight skiff
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It’s a dinar sim, but I guess I can look up some other boomys log

lucid olive
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chances are you've done keys with someone whos had logs on

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but yeah since you don't have it i guess

dense steeple
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we choked last week

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tonight we 2 healed all of p3

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you think this will stick?

lofty depot
dense steeple
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idk

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prog kill washed boomy parse

lofty depot
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prog kill non-washed boomy parse

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gotta lock in soma

dense steeple
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100k dif 20%

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sheesh

lofty depot
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well that kill is 723 and like 3 weeks old

dense steeple
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true

lofty depot
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need to figure out how to 8m.....

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oo he critting low

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i crit a 112m with solo ca

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need to lock in

lucid olive
lofty depot
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that kill was on wednesday

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at like 2am cst

lucid olive
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so first day of patch

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because its before first lockin

maiden pasture
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dont listen to this gamz hater arctic

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this guy plays with double aug to cheese logs

lucid olive
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those fuckers are stealing my dam

maiden pasture
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me when theres no log hook issues known for moonkin

lucid olive
maiden pasture
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but ebon might increased dryad cap

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😭

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log cheeser trying to act like hes getting any damage stolen.....

lofty depot
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fuggn cheeser

lucid olive
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i still havent used that trinket

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need to change regrowth to mouseover macro and play raid frame whack-a-mole between eclipse

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very cringe

lucid olive
maiden pasture
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how do u not r1 with 2x aug tho u must have got no crits or

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who else is playing with 2 augs

lucid olive
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its 1x aug

maiden pasture
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u have a log with 2 tho or

lucid olive
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wait nvm that kill was 2 cause the pres evoker went dps

delicate perch
lucid olive
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yeah real

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tbf i was dead for 20 sec or something on that pull

maiden pasture
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2x aug with voidcore and rng crits, thats how u get secured r1 with no contest

meager storm
lucid olive
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idk i don't know any specifically weird log hooks with aug

maiden pasture
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afaik there are no issues with moonkin but the int from ebon might counts towards ur dryad cap

meager storm
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im pretty sure the int they give us increasing the cap is not taken from us

maiden pasture
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so u gain from them overall

meager storm
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the rest pretty sure is

maiden pasture
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and they cant work out

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how to take the increased int

lucid olive
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idk i lost 500k dps from ebon might

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450k from breath of eons

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then the rest are kinda whatever values

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the way prescience counts dmg is weird too i think

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iirc it's "prescience gives 3% crit, so if you have prescience and you crit the aug gets 3% of the extra dmg from the crit"

lofty depot
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funny spread sheet, cant remember

lucid olive
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probably the splash

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the actual buff is just starsurge dam

lofty depot
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and then right u double dip the int

lucid olive
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on fractillus i got like 6.5% ish removed from each 4pc Starsurge with 2x ebon might

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and 4% removed from prescience

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breath of eons doing 8% of my dam as well in first 20 seconds

scenic mist
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dam nice new pic Gamz

junior violet
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Signet seems to SIM higher than Antenna for me... but I rarely see boomies using it, what am I missing?

maiden pasture
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link sim

delicate perch
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40s 10 target sim

digital berry
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finally done

dense steeple
delicate perch
tropic pollen
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Voidcore or antenna on nexus-king? I've been running antenna but it looks like there are quite a few folks with the voidcore.

jade drift
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with dagger or staff

tropic pollen
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Might have to try that. i wanted to buy a parapodia for keys, but I guess that's third

lofty depot
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just dont miss ur orbs

tropic pollen
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You ask the impossible

dense steeple
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i did it

lofty depot
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we have acquired

vital hound
muted citrus
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prepull proc then swap ?

lucid olive
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need to play raid frame whack-a-mole on the debuffed person with regrowth outside of eclipse/before CDs

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and then chain cancelaura the instant regrowth proc to have more uptime on the buff

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and if you do it perfectly you're only marginably ahead of antenna

meager storm
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antenna bad voidcore better

muted citrus
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oh you guys are down bad.

meager storm
muted citrus
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holy moly.

lucid olive
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yeah buying NK trinket when voidcore is on the table

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is exactly something i would expect of arctic

delicate perch
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could've been worse

scenic orbit
potent cargo
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how do i wild charge to my augvoker friend only

hollow mist
lofty depot
muted citrus
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I also don't think it does but I'm not at computer

lofty depot
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it doesnt

muted citrus
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lol

lofty depot
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but yea have to equip it on rez

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hope to get 2 stacks

loud kettle
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The debuff or whatever resets, but the buff from regrowthing someone doesnt right

lofty depot
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regrowth, equipmacro the trinket

muted citrus
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yeah but that doesn't matter lol

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for u

lucid olive
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afaik the buff clears if you unequip trinket

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cause the tech used to be get buff on pull timer and swap trinket

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i didn't bother reading more than whatever the APL that made it sim better was doing cause the gameplay is very bad

lofty depot
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by buff u meant the one on ur friends

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i gotchu

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wow god gamer

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the buff also pandemics

delicate perch
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classic arctic...

lofty depot
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im bored

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had to make a macro and everything :/

craggy sonnet
craggy sonnet
lucid olive
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yeah word

vital hound
lofty depot
craggy sonnet
lucid olive
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i dont think wipes say if its invalidated or not

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cause they dont give you score so theres nothing to invalidate

lofty depot
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yea i dont see it invalidating our wipes

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yee

craggy sonnet
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its still gon show a number even if they invalidate

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so naturally gonna just display the numby on wipes as well

lofty depot
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still shows a numby just not allstar

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kk get all the r1s and just get invalidated ezpz

craggy sonnet
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idk if you get ranked

lucid olive
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arctic isnt swapping the trinket off

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so it wont

lofty depot
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yes i am

craggy sonnet
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oh

lofty depot
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also he gets teh 100s

craggy sonnet
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why we even talking about it them

lucid olive
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ive been asking that for months

lofty depot
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they all show up iirc

craggy sonnet
# lofty depot

yeah it shows the number but are they on the leaderboards?

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dont think so

lofty depot
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yes

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funny invalidate dont mean shit

craggy sonnet
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ok

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they are gonna see you, click on your profile, see a sea of red and think you are a cheating piece of crap

lofty depot
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just labeled as a hacker if someone goes and looks

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if ur not cheating, ur not trying

craggy sonnet
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why is EU down?

lofty depot
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ight i sleep

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bye

craggy sonnet
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nighty nighty

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stupid lemix phase 3?

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killing my game

pallid bay
lucid olive
craggy sonnet
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ah, unlucky

lucid olive
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usually when its 11am maintenance its up at like 9am

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rare for the 11am maintenance to actually not be up until 11am

sonic crag
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Damn this week had me excited to play /s

craggy sonnet
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didnt even know it was extended maintenance

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why is there no banner or something

sonic crag
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Anyone on EU hosting 6/8M alt runs still?

lucid olive
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yeah threw me off to, had to check the official page

lucid olive
fair bloom
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as keeper in raid should i be using forgeweaver trinket with the buffed surges or just use it when i cast CA

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asking for both double and single ca

delicate perch
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you want the int for dryad

fair bloom
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is the dryad cap dynamic

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or just whatever ur int is when u spawn it

fossil hemlock
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It's based on int when it disappears

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AFAIK

craggy sonnet
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^

fossil hemlock
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I think most people just macro CA and Araz

craggy sonnet
lucid olive
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theyre up soon now i think

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the realm status page on the website shows most realms online

round field
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this is the dumbest question ive heard in my life

fossil hemlock
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You don't get out much, do you

round field
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what does that have to do with anything

livid jay
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servers up apparently

swift crater
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Yeah mine is up

pliant tiger
craggy sonnet
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dungeonroute

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sims

pliant tiger
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ok ty 🙂

craggy sonnet
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but its prolly gonna be parapodia sacbrood antenna lily

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something like that

pliant tiger
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parapodia sims best with 5 min patcwerk

craggy sonnet
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sure

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that list was in predicted order btw

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this game's so easy, holy

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minimum effort, maximum results

river galleon
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I run myth para and Araz but thinking about swap Araz for Myth Antenna. I have to check later Diamante too.

pliant tiger
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i have diamante and hero lily now and wondering if i should buy araz for raid or something else for mythic + content. i also have mythic para in the bags

craggy sonnet
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araz is giga for raid

pliant tiger
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3% for me

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just the raiding season is kinda ending

tight skiff
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How do you check for antenna orbs miss chance in logs?

craggy sonnet
craggy sonnet
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i think so

jade flume
craggy sonnet
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dangit

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wanted to be able to get 6 whatever coin thingies

ebon parcel
lucid olive
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probably not no

ebon parcel
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what does that mean?

celest rampart
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does the sim account for 12% raid buff

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or do we need to enable that somewhere

lucid olive
celest rampart
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also

lucid olive
celest rampart
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on araz where is the spot to stand to hit all 3 towers?

lucid olive
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in the middle

celest rampart
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there some shit in the middle, no idea what it is, does it do dmg?

lucid olive
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yes

ebon parcel
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how do i know if my culminating masterul blasphemite is giving the crit bonus?

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like is there a visual clue

delicate perch
ebon parcel
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i have 5 different gems on but how can i tell if it is functioning or bugged out

livid prairie
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How tf

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do i line up my 2nd convoke

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feels like i'm holding it for 10 days while CA is on CD.

lucid olive
fossil hemlock
lucid olive
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damn wrong reply sorry

livid prairie
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toxic

lucid olive
fossil hemlock
fossil hemlock
lucid olive
lucid olive
fossil hemlock
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If you feel like you have to hold convoke for 3-5 business days then it sounds like you're doing something wrong, they naturally line up

lucid olive
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the only time you hold is if you're doing 2 CA -> 2 CA cooldown windows

fossil hemlock
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Or if you accidentally press CA when the first charge comes off cooldown

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But just don't do that

livid prairie
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I usually CA b2b at start of pull

lucid olive
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and then you either do another single CA at 2m with Convoke or you hold the Convoke for another double CA at 3 min ish

fossil hemlock
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Yeah 2x CA on pull, first charge of CA comes back after 1:30-ish and you hold it until convoke at 2 minutes (or 3 min for double CA)

livid prairie
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Ok, i'm usually just pressing CA on cooldown after that.

fossil hemlock
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Yeah there's your problem

livid prairie
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I just need to hold CA longer then

fossil hemlock
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You only CA with convoke

#

Outside of some extremely niche circumstances

celest rampart
#

am I being thick

lucid olive
#

you have it checked

celest rampart
#

thats weapon enchants doing more rather than the dmg buff presumably

#

gets its all included ty

lucid olive
#

why would you need the dmg buff in there anyway

#

the results of your sim is the same regardless of the number at the end

misty vapor
lucid olive
#

sim your character

lucid olive
#

thats fine

misty vapor
#

i am going to do this but i will change one gem on the neck

#

yeah but i wo,der if it is better or not to take more haste

#

i have 0 haste

lucid olive
#

keeper of the grove hates haste

misty vapor
#

and it is nice to cast faster on the move

fossil hemlock
#

Kotg wants some amount of haste but it's very minimal

#

Like sub 5k

lucid olive
#

the only haste you want is the one from your tier set pieces

misty vapor
#

i only have haste from chest en head

naive siren
#

is it possible that lily beats forge? for raiding

misty vapor
#

no

#

araz trinket > All

#

after it is antena or voidcore

naive siren
#

yeah, droptimizer showed lily a higher gain than forge.
had to leave pc but still have a look afterwards.
glad my sceptical thought was not wrong

lucid olive
#

did you droptimize in elunes chosen m+ talents

celest rampart
#

sims better than antena for me and dont have the minigame xD

craggy sonnet
#

uhhh, i need to read first

celest rampart
craggy sonnet
#

was just referring to others already pointing out the same

#

so me responding was unnecessary

#

the % buff is not included with that checkbox

lofty depot
#

It would be a sim angle

craggy sonnet
lucid olive
#

i been telling him that for years at this point

lofty depot
#

We outside with it

#

New guild next tier forsure

craggy sonnet
#

upgrading sidegrading or downgrading?

lofty depot
#

Well I'd find a Hof guild

#

Downgrade from wr 800, gotta be crazy

craggy sonnet
lofty depot
#

Idk, some guild told me I was blasting so

pallid bay
#

dont trust everything on the internet

crude cargo
#

trust everything on the internet

round field
#

If you go higher

#

It will expose what a fraud you are

lofty depot
#

Yea surely

round field
#

You only look good cause u play with pigs

#

Go higher and youre the pig

lofty depot
#

Cuz my damage is pad,.so true

#

<@&114146878353833984>

tawny cloud
#

such balance

lofty depot
#

Curious how u fraud boss dam

royal zenith
#

I want to see arctic in Evolve

#

should be a funny clash

lucid olive
#

aenia would boot him within a week

vale pebble
#

with a vip pass

round field
#

Simple

royal zenith
#

this tier specifically it helps if your team doesn't do enough damage

#

or a ton more

#

anything in between is fucked

tawny cloud
#

hey guys. ive been running some sims (i run the free version so i have to juggle abit around so i didnt sim gems yet)

but im having problems with deciding whats the real way to go around it or if im missing out on something in the sims

i ended up with 3 different sims with roughly the same dps.

bascially im trying to figure out if should spend my Chip on voidglass or Antenna or voidglass and use next one on the voidcore.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ncyT2ZJwwi8JG4oFySu2yx

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uN4Wn8GicRo6x1vzDRzDSQ

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jxay3MD1vSHsuUuYfnUTcf

hope someone can help me out 😄

lucid olive
#

take the weapon

tawny cloud
#

i was leaning to the weapon as well. just when i simmed weapon alone and atenna upgrades alone Atenna just simmed higher so i got confused

lofty depot
round field
#

Didnt ask

#

Ur noob

#

And american

lofty depot
#

Says the shitter

round field
#

I shit in ur food bowl and u eat it happily

lofty depot
#

What's ur excuse?

sudden flame
#

🥀

round field
#

And im too lazy to farm crests

lofty depot
#

So lacks skill and initiative

round field
#

Tier over

#

Dont care

lofty depot
#

Not for u

round field
#

It is

#

I quit

#

I go as buyer to dimmy and log off

lofty depot
#

Tragic

round field
#

Nothing of value was lost

#

Hatewatching +50 wr next tier

#

I didnt play dimmy salad on prog

#

And we spawned 100 wr

lofty depot
#

The iqni effect

crude cargo
#

is the damage of starsurges calculated when you cast it or when it hits, and does it matter if you lose eclipse while the starsurges is flying ?

round field
#

On cast

#

Like the majority of spells in the game

crude cargo
#

so casting it when eclipse is about to fall is fine

livid jay
#

yes

slim iris
#

What’s the difference 🤷‍♂️ 😂💯

round field
#

One has 200 pulls the other has 20

#

🥀

lofty depot
#

One is good and one is shit

lofty depot
#

I r1

slim iris
#

🧢

royal zenith
#

Wachu gonna do about it gilly

slim iris
#

I’m gonna resub

royal zenith
#

Yoo login

eager raft
uncut roost
#

He wants you to know he's a big pumper

tawny cloud
#

simming 5 times to get the highest numbers on the sim? 😄

eager raft
#

one sec I’ll sim my character and send you it and provide zero context

#

Why does boomy actually sim so high

misty vapor
silk snow
#

Hi guys, for raid is better Voidcore or Antenna?

lofty depot
#

if u think ur not gonna pick up the orbs, probably voidcore

silk snow
#

If i can take orbs is better Antenna?

#

For example Dimensius Myth?

lofty depot
#

I mean I don't have a problem picking up said orbs

#

U can sim the different miss chances

brazen wraith
#

Unbuffed, unflasked - how is this stat breakdown looking?

dense steeple
#

Too much haste

lofty depot
#

Too much haste

exotic perch
#

Too little haste

lofty depot
#

Missing 2 ilvls

dense steeple
#

Next week were reclearing

#

I hope I get booties

#

Its the only thing I need outside of myth track stuff I can craft

mossy night
#

Yoo, currently running max crafted wrist/staff with ascencion and writhing, will probably not manage to get fractilus myth down soo wondering if i should go 2 new crafts w duskthread and mythic vooidglass spire

lofty depot
#

For m+ sure

#

In raid no

sudden pawn
#

to much speed

#

to little hair

livid prairie
#

I see you all saying haste blows right?

#

For raid only?

meager storm
#

keeper doesnt want haste on raid, and Elunes chosen wants haste on m+

#

just sim ur toon

livid prairie
#

Much haste such wow

delicate perch
lofty depot
#

Signet yucky

tribal vale
#

never parsed this high before its finally clicked NOWAYING

wise plover
#

Hello fellow boomies,

currently progressing nexus king.

Is there any weak aura or elvui setting to show King's Thrall debuff + time on other players, so i can better time my cyclone ?

exotic perch
lofty depot
lofty depot
#

U can also just u know press it

#

And then press it again when it's about to end

#

Could also tell your friends to stop getting mc'd

red mantle
#

yo how much do we hit 1st 3 adds on dimmy d?

#

on pull

#

do we hardswap to them?

exotic perch
#

Depends on your comp but really the answer is no

lofty depot
#

I Sunfire the one closest to center (which then hits all 3 + dimmy), then moonfire dimmy, trees CA Starfall surge convoke

#

But no, I'm not targeting them

wise plover
#

will check on the list options tho

exotic perch
#

If you need the boomy to hit them ya got issues in p1

#

Get another shaman and let em blast

wise plover
#

"just winging it" is what did before

lofty depot
#

Optimize living then optimize your damage

red mantle
#

were not struggling with the 1st three adds i was just wondering

lofty depot
#

U can steal some pad

#

Adept does some cringe shit, he starfires at the start of ca

wise plover
#

i cant find any list in northern sky weak aura package, is there one in liquids?

lofty depot
#

Ye

wise plover
#

Liquid also does not show search results for kings thrall, and not suiting matches by manual search. maybe im looking in the wrong place? or im not getting the point you mean

lofty depot
#

Is..... Kings thrall the actual mc debuff

#

Ok..... So the list is the Oaths Bound debuff which shows how many dashes I've taken basically

wise plover
#

yes, the mc debuff is kings thrall

lofty depot
#

Yea that's just saying they're mc'd that doesn't tell u they're gonna get mc'd right

#

Id have to search wago to see if there's one

#

Ayo

#

(idk what it does)

jade vault
wise plover
lofty depot
#

What timing r u looking for

wise plover
lofty depot
#

The duration of cyclone?

wise plover
#

no, the duration of kings thrall

lofty depot
#

I'll be home in an hour

dense steeple
#

2 cyclones and you save them

delicate perch
#

0 if your players don’t be bad

tawny cloud
# red mantle yo how much do we hit 1st 3 adds on dimmy d?

ive just had my first 15 pulls on dim. as boom i just focused dimmy. having a buffed surge ready to shoot into the mass with most hp finishing it off even though its like 20% after.

we had enough dmg atleast on our side without me

jade vault
tawny cloud
#

well my convoke ends around the adds die so not really saving but just swapping targets

hard dawn
lofty depot
#

R u convoking into adds?

tawny cloud
#

Nono. i target dimmy. but if a mass have 20% left i surge it

lofty depot
#

Why r u simming the mastery and haste one

#

And not the Crit and vers one

#

U also don't have the raid buff checked

lofty depot
#

Also, those adds shouldn't be alive after ur convoke

tawny cloud
#

tell my team :()

hard dawn
hard dawn
hard dawn
lofty depot
#

Who are "the other guys"

#

Haste isn't good for keeper

lofty depot
#

Yea I wouldn't look at a "this is Patrick" guy for good sims

#

U should run ur own and not just base it off of 1 person

#

Everyone has diff gear

#

Or most

hard dawn
#

Hahaha, I just see everyone always trying to find something that I might be doing wrong, or that I'm lacking. That's why I ask.

#

yeah u right ofc!

#

thanks!! 😄

lofty depot
#

That's the first thing I do when opening links from people

indigo gull
#

what entropy ring is it? with mastery?

misty vapor
lofty depot
lofty depot
delicate perch
lofty depot
#

so it just tracks it

craggy sonnet
#

shout out to xyraga and adeeoz

tawny cloud
delicate perch
#

you did not select one of them

tawny cloud
#

ah the gem! thanks

#

not my sim though. just didnt see it :

dense steeple
#

just got declined from an m0 in remix. guess i'm soloing it

delicate perch
#

theres no shot you group for m0s

dense steeple
#

i was mostly just hoping to get a quick summon down

uncut roost
#

That feeling when they make you heal for dimmy in your boomy gear...

shadow bough
#

How do we feel about raidbots sims as a quick question?

lofty depot
#

can u be more specific

shadow bough
#

im at the end of a tier 11 bountiful delve, im comparing my trinkets vs the ones I can now buy. I'm just generally curious if Raidbots, sims are generally accurate. I havent played wow in quite some time

lucid olive
#

Big fan

potent cargo
#

yes its fine for ur uses

#

theres something to be said for it only being as good as the user setting it up e.g. fight constraints and shit

lofty depot
#

well u can farm those or m+ trinkets... w.e. sims good

potent cargo
#

1 target vs 5 target, M+ vs raid, single target low movement + good play, vs multi target lots of movement and a ba dplayer etc.

lofty depot
#

but that implies yea that your simming dungeon route.. but idk what ur looking at

potent cargo
#

trinkets are scary bc u could be tryin gto use a single target trinket that sims good on paper in m+ and maybe its shit compared to a stat proccer or whatev

#

so always consider context when u trust the clanka

shadow bough
#

I mean, im not gonna claim im the greatest player ever, but I do okay. I used to play a lot and had a decent M+ scores. Im playing with the settings, but I know different classes use different sims, so I wasnt sure if there was one that was preferred for Moonkin

lucid olive
#

1 target 5 min is generally the go-to for moonkin

lofty depot
#

dreamgrove.gg, and ctrl + f "sim" til u find the faq section on how to do so for m+

lucid olive
#

If you wanna sim for m+ you can do dungeonroute sims, there's a little bit about it in the FAQ section of the Compendium

#

I know the DH guy Shadarek has a video showing how to do dungeonroute sim as well

potent cargo
#

If you're not planning to do MDI dungeon sim level of hardcore I think a nice healthy mix of maybe 3-4 sims can be good to draw some conclusions from

#

e.g. 1 target patchwerk 5 min, 3 target 5 min, 5 target 3 min, 10 target 1 min etc.

#

Overarchingly I won't imagine that gear will change much except maybe trinkets where some may be favoured more than others e.g. boss vs. trash trinkets, and then you just kinda make a decision around how much you want to prio bosses vs padding on trash

#

just speaking from experience over the years rather than what may be applicable in this specific tier though

shadow bough
#

dream grove is showing similar ish output to raidbots, they both seem to be favoring me keeping my Signet OT Priory, and pick up Soulbreakers' Sigil

lofty depot
#

well when we said to go look at it, it wasnt cuz it had a chart of viable trinkets

#

but 2min trinkets in m+ arent particularlly fun to use because of cd timings

potent cargo
#

play ec press on cd turn brain off gg

#

they will respect you

shadow bough
#

lol

#

Thanks for the help all

native wharf
#

Tragic, diddnt realize there was a weakaura on the website, ate one of my buffs on my CE kill last night

#

that weakaura to stop Auto's isnt against tos?

lucid olive
#

no why would it be

native wharf
#

maybe the WA telling my character to do something based off certain parameters.

#

idk just wondering

lucid olive
#

no you're fine

native wharf
#

will def use on reclear

#

parse wasnt bad but could of been better :\

#

ty 🙂

delicate perch
#

too late I'm reporting you

native wharf
#

f

delicate perch
#

gg

wise plover
wise plover
lofty depot
fair bloom
#

Wait your autos consume dryad buff?

#

Hahahah

#

No animation on full moon is bogus

#

Thats like 90% of why that spell is cool

lofty depot
lofty depot
lucid olive
#

not fixed on alpha either

fair bloom
#

wtf

#

🚮

lucid olive
#

your opener and general CD usage on the first boss is wrong

#
  • you used Shadowmeld for some reason during your opener which doesn't work in boss combat
#

4 Sunfire casts on Fractillus within 20 seconds is too much, a really big part of Moonkin (and any other uptime caster) is about managing movement

#

You should be aware of what mechanic is coming up in 10-15 seconds and plan out how to deal with it

#

A lot of movement problems that people have come from spending too much Astral Power on Starsurge/Starfall when they don't need to and then having to use Sunfire/Moonfire casts while moving

#

Ideally you should have AP banked up before a mechanic that forces you to move, like breaks/walls on Fractillus

maiden pasture
#

They should make it work tbh

#

It works for stealth abilities it should work for combat drop abilities

#

But I assume they don't know how to do that without actually having you drop combat which would break some fights

lucid olive
#

won't be a reason to meld for rake next expansion anyway

pallid bay
#

not the same

#

it shouldnt work for combat drop!

maiden pasture
celest rampart
#

Can you meld to reset boss?

#

Or meld potion

lucid olive
#

think you can reset boss just with a regular stealth pot as well

#

but i've never tried it, just see people do it

maiden pasture
#

havent seen anyone do it this tier

#

but yeah it used to be a thing to reset bosses by walking up with stealth pot and auto attacking the boss

plucky valley
#

You can’t pick your champs in Aram because that would be a SCAM!!! (Selected champion all middle)

lofty depot
plucky valley
severe hollow
#

Pick

#

But the league Aram is also more similar to sdam

plucky valley
#

... what does the S and D stand for?

lucid olive
#

you don't wanna know

#

enten is into some freaky shit

plucky valley
#

Oh goodness gracious

severe hollow
deft granite
#

do you guys think voidcore trinket is better than antenna on dimensius?

#

feels like alot of antenna proccs goes to waste

lucid olive
#

yes

quiet drift
#

Voidcore bis on all

#

Not having to run after balls is too nice

maiden pasture
#

So true

#

All my homies HATE antenna

fossil hemlock
#

Also winning the lottery and getting 3+ stacks of voidcore during convoke so your 2 surges are extra huge

#

Feels good

maiden pasture
#

Don't listen to that guy that hasn't even killed dimmy that will type some dumb shit like "skill diff"

fossil hemlock
#

Big numby funny

maiden pasture
#

What's the best way to drain your mana pre-pull

#

Is it just regrowth spam or

fossil hemlock
#

Respeccing twice technically I think

#

Aside from that it's regrowth

lucid olive
#

yeah respeccing back and forth

#

thats what I see Tradu do on shadow priest as well

fossil hemlock
#

Although, does that not fuck with control the dream?

lucid olive
#

why would it

fossil hemlock
#

Because you'd have to swap to resto

#

And you won't have CA or the same trees

#

I don't know if it has to count the 15 seconds after swapping back to moonkin

lucid olive
#

yeah i think it has to

#

oh well

fossil hemlock
#

I guess it still gets rid of most of the mana pool

lucid olive
#

respec back and forth before 15s pull timer and then spam regrowth during the timer

fossil hemlock
#

At that point you can just spam regrowth anyway for the 15s timer

eager raft
#

@royal zenith gm

craggy sonnet
lucid olive
#

you don't have to do anything

craggy sonnet
#

No

maiden pasture
#

Me when I want to cheese logs by taking in a buff I'm not supposed to have

craggy sonnet
#

Are you supposed to start the fight at 0 mana?

#

Also I don't really care about the pre pull being gone. I care about the consequence of having to play it the entire fight now

round field
#

ur job is to do dmg

#

more dmg gooder

pallid bay
#

neither should be allowed

maiden pasture
craggy sonnet
jade flume
#

Are people playing nk these days

maiden pasture
#

"people"

craggy sonnet
maiden pasture
craggy sonnet
#

Thank you

jade flume
#

But should one

maiden pasture
#

One could suck on this

pallid bay
#

if it is an oversight by blizzard

#

it would either get fixed

quiet drift
#

+1

pallid bay
#

or considered intentional

craggy sonnet
#

I mean obv they just didn't flag it properly. Heck, if they did, it probably wouldn't be worth wearing at all.
But now we are where we are. With the trinket as is (that's on blizz) and wcl invalidating logs (that's on you)

quiet drift
#

3rd party moderation = cringe

pallid bay
#

and perhaps

maiden pasture
#

Blizzard are famous for fixing minor bugs

pallid bay
#

3rd party shouldnt make arbitrary rules

#

regarding in-game mechanics

jade flume
#

Man wcl is hinvalidating valid healing logs on loomer triggered

#

Cant let the beam hit boss

pallid bay
maiden pasture
#

For their third party rankings they should have full control over their own moderation for what they allow

quiet drift
#

Some1 said yday during raid

pallid bay
#

one could argue..

maiden pasture
#

Someone in nerubar found a world quest extra action button that gave everyone 5% versa in the raid that you could take into raid, should that have been allowed also?

jade flume
#

We're back

quiet drift
#

Lez go

craggy sonnet
#

Eelers having fun.
Gonna be parsing 99s on eeler logs as well considering how many regrowths I'm about to be casting

jade flume
#

At this point u gotta 2 heal and ignore all mechanics to have fun as eeler on god

jade flume
#

Fkn turbo boost, turbo buffs, nerfs and piss bosses from day 1

craggy sonnet
vale pebble
#

they have not stated this have they

#

are u putting words in their mouth?

craggy sonnet
#

clearly tuned balance around having that trinket pre pull

#

doesnt make sense otherwise

vale pebble
#

should liquid get their world first invalidated?

#

they had like 4 ppl do this prepull

pallid bay
#

ofc

vale pebble
#

go ask blizzard to remove their kill mayaler

#

ticket them fast

#

i have vods if u want

maiden pasture
#

It's not about what's invalid in game, it's about what wclogs deems valid for the wclogs rankings ICANT

maiden pasture
lucid olive
#

who is norm

vale pebble
#

something being against the norm is also people like u crying about it

craggy sonnet
#

i mean they didnt care

vale pebble
#

its my norm

#

its against it

fossil hemlock
#

Your norm is fucked

maiden pasture
#

Good for you ig

vale pebble
#

ur against the norm brown aongus

#

grow up

maiden pasture
jade flume
lucid olive
#

did he die

jade flume
#

Allegedly

lucid olive
#

oh yeah that guy

#

i knew that

flat locust
#

Tell me, please, how to sim gems correctly? Should I choose the options "replace existing" + "only max colours"? And sim in 2 passes, first one half of the gems - then the other? And how to choose the best option from them if we are comparing in 2 iterations?

lucid olive
#

he pops up on my tiktok, funny guy

lucid olive
#

but why would you do it in 2 passes

#

theres a lot of gems that are not necessary to sim

pallid bay
lucid olive
#

like you know the haste ones are going to be bad

fossil hemlock
lucid olive
#

theres like thousands of different combinations of gems that are all within margin of error to each other so which one you use ultimately does not matter

fossil hemlock
#

I feel like you guys are grasping at straws of why you should be allowed to trinket swap prepull

pallid bay
#

there can be plenty of against the norm stuff that none of you would agree to invalidate

fossil hemlock
#

Got an example?

vale pebble
#

critting dryad is against the norm

#

because less people crit dryad than people that dont

#

thus making it against the norm

#

true?

#

invalidate everyone that crits dryad surges

lucid olive
#

using weakaura that cancels auto attack to prevent it from consuming 4pc

pallid bay
#

prolonging fights, being allowed to solo adds, playing with 1 or even 0 healers for a faster kill

lucid olive
#

oh yeah 1 healer forgeweaver is a banger

vale pebble
#

having augmentation evoker in your raid

pallid bay
#

weaponswapping

vale pebble
#

invalidate all of those

pallid bay
#

getting PI as boomkin

vale pebble
#

having different gear than someone else

#

that guy has more mastery than me its unfair

flat locust
vale pebble
#

invalidate him mister policeman

#

i swear hes not better than me

lucid olive
vale pebble
#

its the 1k mastery he has over me

lucid olive
#

if you choose every gem it will just give you a bunch of iterations that are all the same dps

maiden pasture
pallid bay
#

norm of the game rules Hmmge

lucid olive
#

this game does not rule

vale pebble
#

what rules bro

craggy sonnet
#

there are outlier trinkets every season

vale pebble
#

i can use

craggy sonnet
#

are these against the norm?

fossil hemlock
#

Yes

vale pebble
#

autohotkey that plays the game for me

fossil hemlock
vale pebble
#

im not getting my logs invalidated

#

or getting banned

fossil hemlock
#

"These not-normal trinkets are there every season, are they not normal?"

vale pebble
#

u can easily bot ur whole rotation

#

those ppl exist

pallid bay
#

it happens over and over again

lucid olive
pallid bay
#

and dosnt get fixed

vale pebble
#

how is a trinket not normal

craggy sonnet
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outlier in the sense that they outperform the other 95%

pallid bay
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how is that not normal..

fossil hemlock
vale pebble
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no explain

fossil hemlock
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We're talking about buffs staying when 99.9% of buffs get cleared

vale pebble
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how is a trinket not normal

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ur wrong

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btw

craggy sonnet
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we are making stupid claims about what is considered norm

vale pebble
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procs dont get cleared

lucid olive
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its mythic

vale pebble
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what mythic

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oh

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yea

lucid olive
vale pebble
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gz

fossil hemlock
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You guys sound extremely salty that your tech doesn't work anymore

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Lmao

pallid bay
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sometimes stuff is cleared

lofty depot
pallid bay
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sometimes it isnt

lucid olive
vale pebble
pallid bay
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guys stop arguing