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Last I simmed, forge isn't better than other trinkets for EC
I did pick up parapodia (?) after this dungeon as well because double on use was annoying me 😅 .
And dreamstate is a good shout
quite a bit of downtime in your 2nd press of incarn
sorry for late response I went out for lunch
Any tips for nexus king on boomie? Just started prog
Don't be afraid to hold CDs for platform to push it reliably until people figure out how their buttons work and how to play the platforms
your end goal job on moonkin is very easy
2x CA pull,
CA + convoke at 2 mins (target the dragon if you're progging)
2x CA during kings hunger
probs just CA+convoke when its back up since it wont live long
but as said above, early in prog you can just send your CA+convoke on the platform as you often get there without many people alive when progging and you will crank the titan
On our kill pull blizzard decided to disable my cloak (1st pull of the night)
Was stuck waiting down below while the gang flew to the platform

then fucking died ofc
Had to relog for it to start working on the portals again
so cringe
all those wipes only to get blue balled on the kill
now im stuck collecting dimmys blue balls with my dragon
First of all: Have cyclone specced and look up how to save people with it when needed.
First phase: Barkskin the heavy dot for better survival. You can use bear form to better survive the claws, shouldnt be necessary after nerfs and current overgear honestly, but helps out healers especially in early pulls since they need to get a hang of the quite big hps this fight.
Your CA-usage, as mentioned, should be like already mentioned:
2 CA at start, 1 CA + second convoke right when dragon lands next to boss.
After dragon lands and convoke, you can have treants for platform and even look whether you can use another set of treants right when coming down from platform (watch boss timers when Amp phase is about to come, it varies depending on which platform is faster and comes down first).
2 CA + third convoke on dmg Amp (dont forget to have the right hero talent for reduced CA-cooldown ofc).
1 CA + 4th convoke in last phase whenever ready with treants and your trinket.
With current gear your group should really not struggle on platforms when you at all get there cuz u either live enough to be there or die through too many mind controls when dragons lands or big aoe cuz beams werent played properly.
In short: I wouldnt bother practising using convoke on platform.
What will, however, come very handy for progression, is having enough dmg on drake to kill him in amp phase. Therefore, pump your second Convoke into it to get extra damage on drake and thats why I once more wrote the treants usage right after the dragon lands (-> to get the most drake dmg in). If Drake dies in Amp, Boss comes down with 30-35% into last phase which speeds up the phase (and therefore the progression on it) which is huge.
Rest is not rly Boomer specific, learn the strats step by step.
To see the spirits charging at you better you might get a WA to set your graphic settings to see them better and/or use a darkness potion, this might help too. Not mandatory ofc.
Sorry for wall of text, I just killed it with my guild, wanted to share a bit what helped me on the kill 🦉
I feel like boomie misses something cool to press like ascendance for shaman I guess we have incarn and convoke but they don’t feel epic to press anymore kinda just rotations spells
U should go write about it on the feedback post
Its just a somewhat dull burst sequence, ye ... The only little joy comes when looking up Surge Crits from Burst. My biggest was 110 million if I remember, quite funny still ^^
Where’s that
Read my name
i dont wanna
Apex bolts basically ascendance lava bursts
Yeah but more bolts seems kinda boring imo I might be wrong tho
No random
Tho?
They look cool. But yeah, we don't have big popoff stuff in the kit
I just feel like it could have been something like being able to summon a mega mushroom the poison an area and the explodes for big dmg in aoe like once every 2min or something
It's good, dw about it
U mean like our tierset from undermine
Yeah but bigger
should talk more often in here about what gcd's and best ways to play the actual fights as bamkin
as a channel
U would likely not see the visual
FM doesn't work, so big mushroom doesn't work
As I mentioned in general I feel like Druid as a whole is losing its nature ties unless u are resto, but that’s just my opinion, but having a cool unique power that ties us back to nature could be really cool
Yeah buts that temporary right ?
U got some trees, u go a dryad, u got some faeries
Yes, I wouldve loved it they implented the Undermine Set into our talents/the shrooms permanently, like they implemented dryads into the hero tree on midnight ...
What else u want
If by temporary u mean all expansion long and not getting fixed still, sure
I want wildstalker thorns on boomie too xD

Make sunfire a choice node with wildstalkers bloodseeker vines (call them shadeseeker vines or smt)
I would be happy with a glyph for it xD
who let you cook
who gave you the title of chef
Um I dunno if I’m cooking xD
Don't talent that ass
Clanker wrong, tragic
I think ascendance is very unique in how cool it is tbf
Banger visual effects, instant dots cast, big impact
I think the suggestion to CDs platform is fine as long as you understand you should only do it with at least 1 meaningful platform player dead. Makes no sense to send a random convoke into the boss if it's going to cause you to wipe to platform damage
there's an argument for not swapping cd's around too much, else people will start to rely on specific damage patterns
just communicate with the group/raidleader
Yeah, our RL would call if anyone should send CDs on the platform but he's also 21st man, might be annoying for a RL playing to make that decision on the fly
should be its own log review channel or something 
even tho using those gets you zero replies in other discords
do you have a link for the cyclone tech, my google foo is pretty bad all im finding is one reddit post that like this mentions it but doesnt really what you are doing
basically when they are mindcontrolled by oath, you cyclone them
aka they missed their spirits
so technically they're alive after the explosion happens (and the dragon comes down) so they can break free again
should break it ye
I think this is a clip
from RLE discord
damn thats a solid tech then im guessing mythic its a bit less brain dead simple to avoid being mc
you can see person getting MC'd during explosions, obv keep him alive
don't delete him smile
Its better to conveniently forget to spec cyclone from my experience
But it doesnt work that well after 10th wipe...
Tell your guild to stop getting mc'd and u won't have to do "tech" to save them
At the end, the goal should be to play the P1 rather flawlessly, however its a useful tool to be able to save the tank or a healer from death in P1 or even before drake lands.
In the last pulls of my guild before kill, we got pretty consistent with not getting mc'ed and it was only required rarely and by max 1-2 people. For that we had a Resto and me who could save them and we were good to go.
The strat is simple: Once someone gets mced, you insta cyclone them. Two things happen from that: They dont hit your raid and people from your raid cant kill them (if a melee gets mc'ed, they get cleaved off too fast in my experience unfort).
However, the MC lasts about 8-9seconds, your cyclone only 5-6sec (not sure), so you gonna have torecast it at some point towards the end of the duration.
The MC works the way that you get mc'ed once you die and after the end of the duration (if not killed off by your raid) you take your hp in dmg, explode in raiddmg and die.
In cyclone, you are immune though, dont take your hp in dmg and just get back to normal.
that is some snazzy tech
It is indeed ngl.
And justified us druids being in the fight along with our fancy burst in amp phase ;P
we actually do good ST damage
but the issue is that the important fights require add damage
specific add-damage
Hello, i have a question concerning trinkets for dimensius, is it better to have the fractilus trinket or antena ?
Depends how good u are at grabbing orbs
one of my guildmates told me that the orbs are bugged on dimensius, is it true ?
What is bugged about them
apparently they don't spawn on the platforms in p2
Not true
ok
we had problems on one of our platforms. we looked at who did least dmg to dragon and made that person use CD on platform to finish the titan
who did you assign
The person who did the least damage to the dragon

With eclipse being a button press in Midnight, do we have a choice of which one activates?
Based on ur last filler press, defaults to solar (iirc)
I don’t like the new eclipse system
Who
So, if I wanted solar eclipse I'd starfire twice and then press the button?
That was my confusion, if we were still casting the opposite. Thanks!
Ever?
Depends on what's going on I suppose but assume very little to never as keeper in raid
The only reason u ever did before was for eclipse so
youd prob press starfire if you see aoe coming up
so you would enter lunar for it
that is the concept of the new eclipse and what the old (current) version did extremely poorly
the beta version is so much better
Im telling them all the time
But they are not listeners
Do they get mc’d under the boss and die to “random” cleave as well

god what a horrible fight
at least sark was a banger
reclear was always fun though
Ironically enough the people usually getting mc'd are melee and I don't even try to save them
payback for the glacial spike he would've sent into someone's head I'm sure
No its bad
gg i took it
Noob...
🫘
not having saladbar neck
L bozo
gg
id rather craft neck
taking neck to loot neck
or take soul hunters neck for EC
nice
yeah real gamers dont need sockets anymore
ah well
spire big ec gaming
ye
sheeptwo has spire so maybe take him for sh
i might start taking sockets again so i can craft some EC pieces
but i already got rank 2 soul hunters and i dont do m+ so
heroic antenna vs mythic signet of priory 😬
powerful
depends what other trinkets you have
choosing between those 2 is kinda weird cause you wouldnt replace one with the other
mythic track Azhiccaran Parapodia holds the other slot
uhh either that or saladbar iirc
mythic antenna not very hard to get
I'm a pretty terrible player so sims rarely match my actual gameplay 🤣
have u considered not being terrible
put some real effort into it a decade back or so... then gave up 👍
you should sim anyway
gearing decisions dont rly change if youre bad or good at the game
Damn antenna not A1 choice?
heroic antenna isnt no
Ohhhh im blind
im rich
why ur numby so low
hasnt checked off the raid buff option probably
teach me the ways
maybe it makes 0 difference for ur results but dont speak for me!
but monkey brains inflate their numbers cause they think it makes them not weirdos
i be a weirdo

is crit a bad stat for the elune tree?
generally worse than haste
but your sim will probably feed some crit and vers in there to balance it out if you got a bunch of mast and haste
What miss chance for antenna should I typically sim at for m+?
Look through one of your m+ logs and see how many you missed
It’s a dinar sim, but I guess I can look up some other boomys log
chances are you've done keys with someone whos had logs on
but yeah since you don't have it i guess
we care about purple parses?
well that kill is 723 and like 3 weeks old
true
need to figure out how to 8m.....
oo he critting low
i crit a 112m with solo ca
need to lock in
raiding first day of new patch lol
dont listen to this gamz hater arctic
this guy plays with double aug to cheese logs
those fuckers are stealing my dam
me when theres no log hook issues known for moonkin
@scenic orbit thoughts
but ebon might increased dryad cap
😭
log cheeser trying to act like hes getting any damage stolen.....
he dm'd me when he got nexus command
fuggn cheeser
i still havent used that trinket
need to change regrowth to mouseover macro and play raid frame whack-a-mole between eclipse
very cringe
I wonder what 2 characters got buffed on Fractillus..
how do u not r1 with 2x aug tho u must have got no crits or
who else is playing with 2 augs
its 1x aug
u have a log with 2 tho or
wait nvm that kill was 2 cause the pres evoker went dps
you and the warrior, werdup natty does that ez
2x aug with voidcore and rng crits, thats how u get secured r1 with no contest
thats the dmg i do without augs cant relate 
idk i don't know any specifically weird log hooks with aug
afaik there are no issues with moonkin but the int from ebon might counts towards ur dryad cap
im pretty sure the int they give us increasing the cap is not taken from us
so u gain from them overall
the rest pretty sure is
idk i lost 500k dps from ebon might
450k from breath of eons
then the rest are kinda whatever values
the way prescience counts dmg is weird too i think
iirc it's "prescience gives 3% crit, so if you have prescience and you crit the aug gets 3% of the extra dmg from the crit"
cant remember if its the splash or the actual buff that doesnt hook
funny spread sheet, cant remember
and then right u double dip the int
on fractillus i got like 6.5% ish removed from each 4pc Starsurge with 2x ebon might
and 4% removed from prescience
breath of eons doing 8% of my dam as well in first 20 seconds
dam nice new pic Gamz
Signet seems to SIM higher than Antenna for me... but I rarely see boomies using it, what am I missing?
link sim
40s 10 target sim
finally done
same

Voidcore or antenna on nexus-king? I've been running antenna but it looks like there are quite a few folks with the voidcore.
just bought voidcore, seems to be better
with dagger or staff
Might have to try that. i wanted to buy a parapodia for keys, but I guess that's third
just dont miss ur orbs
You ask the impossible
i did it
we have acquired
gz
prepull proc then swap ?
no it clears on encounter start
need to play raid frame whack-a-mole on the debuffed person with regrowth outside of eclipse/before CDs
and then chain cancelaura the instant regrowth proc to have more uptime on the buff
and if you do it perfectly you're only marginably ahead of antenna
antenna bad voidcore better
oh you guys are down bad.

holy moly.
yeah buying NK trinket when voidcore is on the table
is exactly something i would expect of arctic
honestly props to him for at least buying an int trinket
could've been worse
+
= ❤️


huh
I also don't think it does but I'm not at computer
lol
The debuff or whatever resets, but the buff from regrowthing someone doesnt right
regrowth, equipmacro the trinket
yes
afaik the buff clears if you unequip trinket
cause the tech used to be get buff on pull timer and swap trinket
i didn't bother reading more than whatever the APL that made it sim better was doing cause the gameplay is very bad
by buff u meant the one on ur friends
i gotchu
wow god gamer
the buff also pandemics
I can't imagine doing any of this week 5000 of a tier
classic arctic...
Oh sheee
The thing that changed is that @maiden pasture snitched and now your log gets invalidated if you do precombat trinket swap shenanigans
yeah word

hmm does it only invalidate it once u get a kill
it just wont count towards all star n stuff, i guess?
i dont think wipes say if its invalidated or not
cause they dont give you score so theres nothing to invalidate
its still gon show a number even if they invalidate
so naturally gonna just display the numby on wipes as well
still shows a numby just not allstar
kk get all the r1s and just get invalidated ezpz
idk if you get ranked
yes i am
oh
why we even talking about it them
ive been asking that for months
they all show up iirc
yeah it shows the number but are they on the leaderboards?
dont think so
ok
they are gonna see you, click on your profile, see a sea of red and think you are a cheating piece of crap
just labeled as a hacker if someone goes and looks
if ur not cheating, ur not trying
why is EU down?
what
theyre moving some server shit around and getting ready for housing early access next month afaik
ah, unlucky
usually when its 11am maintenance its up at like 9am
rare for the 11am maintenance to actually not be up until 11am
Damn this week had me excited to play /s
Anyone on EU hosting 6/8M alt runs still?
yeah threw me off to, had to check the official page
probably a bunch
as keeper in raid should i be using forgeweaver trinket with the buffed surges or just use it when i cast CA
asking for both double and single ca
you want the int for dryad
^
I think most people just macro CA and Araz
guess its not up after 11am either
[#Warcraft #WarWithin] Current maintenance has been extended until 12:00 (CET), we apologize for any disruption.
theyre up soon now i think
the realm status page on the website shows most realms online
????????????
this is the dumbest question ive heard in my life
You don't get out much, do you
what does that have to do with anything
servers up apparently
Yeah mine is up
How many minutes we wanna sim for m+ content? Im simming for trinkets.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eezJX5LEWCbJcf7nXFg5az
ok ty 🙂
parapodia sims best with 5 min patcwerk
sure
that list was in predicted order btw
this game's so easy, holy
minimum effort, maximum results
I run myth para and Araz but thinking about swap Araz for Myth Antenna. I have to check later Diamante too.
i have diamante and hero lily now and wondering if i should buy araz for raid or something else for mythic + content. i also have mythic para in the bags
araz is giga for raid
How do you check for antenna orbs miss chance in logs?
you compare the buff applications for the orb spawning and the crit buff applying
So let’s say I took this log of a 21 eco dome
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/c7yrw8RQ1DMBNXZj?fight=6&type=auras&source=2
does this mean 86 orbs spawned and he picked up 81?
i think so
U did a dungeon thats maximum effort
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dMuseHpcZ1KVvibnw1XwL3
is it worth swapping to speed gem for mythic last 2 bosses?
probably not no
what does that mean?
theres a checkbox to enable it in the sim settings at the bottom
also
it means its probably not worth it
on araz where is the spot to stand to hit all 3 towers?
in the middle
there some shit in the middle, no idea what it is, does it do dmg?
yes
how do i know if my culminating masterul blasphemite is giving the crit bonus?
like is there a visual clue

i have 5 different gems on but how can i tell if it is functioning or bugged out
How tf
do i line up my 2nd convoke
feels like i'm holding it for 10 days while CA is on CD.
how can you tell if anything is functioning
Isn't that only for the enchant buff?
damn wrong reply sorry
toxic
how can you tell if your starsurge does the correct amount of dmkg its supposed to do or if its bugged out
Did you accidentally spec out of Control of the Dream?
I do the math on each cast
Just another reason to use movespeed gem
fuckin aussie
no
you stop thinking about it
If you feel like you have to hold convoke for 3-5 business days then it sounds like you're doing something wrong, they naturally line up
the only time you hold is if you're doing 2 CA -> 2 CA cooldown windows
Or if you accidentally press CA when the first charge comes off cooldown
But just don't do that
I usually CA b2b at start of pull
and then you either do another single CA at 2m with Convoke or you hold the Convoke for another double CA at 3 min ish
Yeah 2x CA on pull, first charge of CA comes back after 1:30-ish and you hold it until convoke at 2 minutes (or 3 min for double CA)
Ok, i'm usually just pressing CA on cooldown after that.
Yeah there's your problem
I just need to hold CA longer then
am I being thick
thats weapon enchants doing more rather than the dmg buff presumably
gets its all included ty
why would you need the dmg buff in there anyway
the results of your sim is the same regardless of the number at the end
what is the best gear rn ? i am a bit lost concerning stats
sim your character
thats fine
i am going to do this but i will change one gem on the neck
yeah but i wo,der if it is better or not to take more haste
i have 0 haste
keeper of the grove hates haste
and it is nice to cast faster on the move
the only haste you want is the one from your tier set pieces
i only have haste from chest en head
is it possible that lily beats forge? for raiding
yeah, droptimizer showed lily a higher gain than forge.
had to leave pc but still have a look afterwards.
glad my sceptical thought was not wrong
did you droptimize in elunes chosen m+ talents
not sure why you wouldn't just go voidcore, mh and forge
sims better than antena for me and dont have the minigame xD
that checkbox is just for the weapon enchant thing ,no?
uhhh, i need to read first
it doesn't mention the % buff specifically
was just referring to others already pointing out the same
so me responding was unnecessary
the % buff is not included with that checkbox
Well depends right, cuz having crafted items is worse
It would be a sim angle
you gotta sleep more than 4.5hrs mate
i been telling him that for years at this point
upgrading sidegrading or downgrading?
Idk how much youd wanna fuel your mc complex
Idk, some guild told me I was blasting so
dont trust everything on the internet
trust everything on the internet
But would that invalidate your log
If you go higher
It will expose what a fraud you are
Yea surely
such balance
Curious how u fraud boss dam
aenia would boot him within a week
he would not even get through security
with a vip pass

this tier specifically it helps if your team doesn't do enough damage
or a ton more
anything in between is fucked
hey guys. ive been running some sims (i run the free version so i have to juggle abit around so i didnt sim gems yet)
but im having problems with deciding whats the real way to go around it or if im missing out on something in the sims
i ended up with 3 different sims with roughly the same dps.
bascially im trying to figure out if should spend my Chip on voidglass or Antenna or voidglass and use next one on the voidcore.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ncyT2ZJwwi8JG4oFySu2yx
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uN4Wn8GicRo6x1vzDRzDSQ
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jxay3MD1vSHsuUuYfnUTcf
hope someone can help me out 😄
take the weapon
i was leaning to the weapon as well. just when i simmed weapon alone and atenna upgrades alone Atenna just simmed higher so i got confused
Lol there's plenty of those parses where if the boss died faster it would be better :/
Says the shitter
I shit in ur food bowl and u eat it happily
What's ur excuse?
🥀
So lacks skill and initiative
Not for u
Tragic
Nothing of value was lost
Hatewatching +50 wr next tier
I didnt play dimmy salad on prog
And we spawned 100 wr
The iqni effect
is the damage of starsurges calculated when you cast it or when it hits, and does it matter if you lose eclipse while the starsurges is flying ?
so casting it when eclipse is about to fall is fine
yes
One is good and one is shit
🧢
I’m gonna resub
Yoo login
bro says this as if he ever unsubbed
?
He wants you to know he's a big pumper
simming 5 times to get the highest numbers on the sim? 😄
one sec I’ll sim my character and send you it and provide zero context
Why does boomy actually sim so high
As i am on dimensius, i sim on 7 min but if you wanted info on 5 min with my build it does 60 to 90k more
Hi guys, for raid is better Voidcore or Antenna?
if u think ur not gonna pick up the orbs, probably voidcore
I mean I don't have a problem picking up said orbs
U can sim the different miss chances
Unbuffed, unflasked - how is this stat breakdown looking?
Too much haste
Too much haste
Too little haste
Missing 2 ilvls
Next week were reclearing
I hope I get booties
Its the only thing I need outside of myth track stuff I can craft
Yoo, currently running max crafted wrist/staff with ascencion and writhing, will probably not manage to get fractilus myth down soo wondering if i should go 2 new crafts w duskthread and mythic vooidglass spire
keeper doesnt want haste on raid, and Elunes chosen wants haste on m+
just sim ur toon

Signet yucky
never parsed this high before its finally clicked 
Hello fellow boomies,
currently progressing nexus king.
Is there any weak aura or elvui setting to show King's Thrall debuff + time on other players, so i can better time my cyclone ?
Double amp big
P sure the weakaura packs have a list function with this
U can enable the list in the weakaura pack ur using, u can white list the debuff probablyyyy
Well played!!
U can also just u know press it
And then press it again when it's about to end
Could also tell your friends to stop getting mc'd
Depends on your comp but really the answer is no
I Sunfire the one closest to center (which then hits all 3 + dimmy), then moonfire dimmy, trees CA Starfall surge convoke
But no, I'm not targeting them
if your guild does this, please send link to apply 🙂
will check on the list options tho
If you need the boomy to hit them ya got issues in p1
Get another shaman and let em blast
"just winging it" is what did before
Tell the rats to stop dying
Optimize living then optimize your damage
were not struggling with the 1st three adds i was just wondering
i cant find any list in northern sky weak aura package, is there one in liquids?
Ye
Liquid also does not show search results for kings thrall, and not suiting matches by manual search. maybe im looking in the wrong place? or im not getting the point you mean
Is..... Kings thrall the actual mc debuff
Ok..... So the list is the Oaths Bound debuff which shows how many dashes I've taken basically
yes, the mc debuff is kings thrall
Yea that's just saying they're mc'd that doesn't tell u they're gonna get mc'd right
Id have to search wago to see if there's one
Glow when you can use cyclone as druid on Nexus King Salhadaar From : https://wago.io/yf4ZnMTXf
Ayo
(idk what it does)
Just finished progging and personally I was using nameplate to track the duration… but also I was casting two cyclones. First one so people don’t die to aoe dmg and second one to avoid MC. Doing this worked with debuff falling off no need to track debuff just cyclone
found this one too, but only glows the raidframes, no timings
What timing r u looking for
did you use any addons for nameplates? is it possible with elvui?
The duration of cyclone?
no, the duration of kings thrall
I'll be home in an hour
2 cyclones and you save them
0 if your players don’t be bad
ive just had my first 15 pulls on dim. as boom i just focused dimmy. having a buffed surge ready to shoot into the mass with most hp finishing it off even though its like 20% after.
we had enough dmg atleast on our side without me
I’m using plater and it was available
Ew
Why are we saving surges
well my convoke ends around the adds die so not really saving but just swapping targets
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vreyvyqfhXQiAQzw1t5MNP
According to this sim, there is no difference between the different weapon enchants. Is there a particular reason you use the haste one? Do you find it comfortable in burst?
R u convoking into adds?
Nono. i target dimmy. but if a mass have 20% left i surge it
Why r u simming the mastery and haste one
And not the Crit and vers one
U also don't have the raid buff checked
Yea disgusting
Also, those adds shouldn't be alive after ur convoke
tell my team :()
mmm i lwill try it now..
just cause the other guys use the haste one. so i wanted to check. thats why im asked.
yes i do
this one
Yea I wouldn't look at a "this is Patrick" guy for good sims
U should run ur own and not just base it off of 1 person
Everyone has diff gear
Or most
Hahaha, I just see everyone always trying to find something that I might be doing wrong, or that I'm lacking. That's why I ask.
yeah u right ofc!
thanks!! 😄
That's the first thing I do when opening links from people
what entropy ring is it? with mastery?
i used crit before but i simmed and it simmed higher with haste enchant
show
u can sim which stats
i used to have this aside the mainstat gem
hmm

yea its not blacklisted on my plater
so it just tracks it
shout out to xyraga and adeeoz
is it bad to use max colors or what does your Hmm refer to? 😄
you did not select one of them
just got declined from an m0 in remix. guess i'm soloing it
theres no shot you group for m0s
i was mostly just hoping to get a quick summon down
That feeling when they make you heal for dimmy in your boomy gear...
How do we feel about raidbots sims as a quick question?
can u be more specific
im at the end of a tier 11 bountiful delve, im comparing my trinkets vs the ones I can now buy. I'm just generally curious if Raidbots, sims are generally accurate. I havent played wow in quite some time
Big fan
yes its fine for ur uses
theres something to be said for it only being as good as the user setting it up e.g. fight constraints and shit
well u can farm those or m+ trinkets... w.e. sims good
1 target vs 5 target, M+ vs raid, single target low movement + good play, vs multi target lots of movement and a ba dplayer etc.
but that implies yea that your simming dungeon route.. but idk what ur looking at
trinkets are scary bc u could be tryin gto use a single target trinket that sims good on paper in m+ and maybe its shit compared to a stat proccer or whatev
so always consider context when u trust the clanka
I mean, im not gonna claim im the greatest player ever, but I do okay. I used to play a lot and had a decent M+ scores. Im playing with the settings, but I know different classes use different sims, so I wasnt sure if there was one that was preferred for Moonkin
1 target 5 min is generally the go-to for moonkin
dreamgrove.gg, and ctrl + f "sim" til u find the faq section on how to do so for m+
If you wanna sim for m+ you can do dungeonroute sims, there's a little bit about it in the FAQ section of the Compendium
I know the DH guy Shadarek has a video showing how to do dungeonroute sim as well
If you're not planning to do MDI dungeon sim level of hardcore I think a nice healthy mix of maybe 3-4 sims can be good to draw some conclusions from
e.g. 1 target patchwerk 5 min, 3 target 5 min, 5 target 3 min, 10 target 1 min etc.
Overarchingly I won't imagine that gear will change much except maybe trinkets where some may be favoured more than others e.g. boss vs. trash trinkets, and then you just kinda make a decision around how much you want to prio bosses vs padding on trash
just speaking from experience over the years rather than what may be applicable in this specific tier though
dream grove is showing similar ish output to raidbots, they both seem to be favoring me keeping my Signet OT Priory, and pick up Soulbreakers' Sigil
well when we said to go look at it, it wasnt cuz it had a chart of viable trinkets
but 2min trinkets in m+ arent particularlly fun to use because of cd timings
Tragic, diddnt realize there was a weakaura on the website, ate one of my buffs on my CE kill last night
that weakaura to stop Auto's isnt against tos?
no why would it be
maybe the WA telling my character to do something based off certain parameters.
idk just wondering
no you're fine
too late I'm reporting you
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thanks 🙂 will check it out
thanks 🙂
jundies
Wait your autos consume dryad buff?
Hahahah
No animation on full moon is bogus
Thats like 90% of why that spell is cool

ye
been that way for a while
not fixed on alpha either
Can someone help me to be better in raid?
HC:
https://de.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wrdA68MCKvQWtjRg
Myth first boss:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aLGYDpNzvdymKP68?fight=2&type=damage-done
Soulbinder:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Lqp4KvDaRmwW1Gng?fight=13&type=damage-done
Loom Trys:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aLGYDpNzvdymKP68?fight=21&type=damage-done
pls help me 🙁
start by reading the Compendium guide linked in pins and channel description
your opener and general CD usage on the first boss is wrong
- you used Shadowmeld for some reason during your opener which doesn't work in boss combat
4 Sunfire casts on Fractillus within 20 seconds is too much, a really big part of Moonkin (and any other uptime caster) is about managing movement
You should be aware of what mechanic is coming up in 10-15 seconds and plan out how to deal with it
A lot of movement problems that people have come from spending too much Astral Power on Starsurge/Starfall when they don't need to and then having to use Sunfire/Moonfire casts while moving
Ideally you should have AP banked up before a mechanic that forces you to move, like breaks/walls on Fractillus

They should make it work tbh
It works for stealth abilities it should work for combat drop abilities
But I assume they don't know how to do that without actually having you drop combat which would break some fights
won't be a reason to meld for rake next expansion anyway
this is just stealth conditional or
not the same
it shouldnt work for combat drop!
Yeye ik it's not the same but it should be
think you can reset boss just with a regular stealth pot as well
but i've never tried it, just see people do it
havent seen anyone do it this tier
but yeah it used to be a thing to reset bosses by walking up with stealth pot and auto attacking the boss
You can’t pick your champs in Aram because that would be a SCAM!!! (Selected champion all middle)
If ur the last alive u can meld, used to do that to save pulsar
It's apam smh
what does the P stand for?
... what does the S and D stand for?
Oh goodness gracious
Very true
do you guys think voidcore trinket is better than antenna on dimensius?
feels like alot of antenna proccs goes to waste
yes
Also winning the lottery and getting 3+ stacks of voidcore during convoke so your 2 surges are extra huge
Feels good
Don't listen to that guy that hasn't even killed dimmy that will type some dumb shit like "skill diff"
Although, does that not fuck with control the dream?
why would it
Because you'd have to swap to resto
And you won't have CA or the same trees
I don't know if it has to count the 15 seconds after swapping back to moonkin
I guess it still gets rid of most of the mana pool
respec back and forth before 15s pull timer and then spam regrowth during the timer
At that point you can just spam regrowth anyway for the 15s timer
@royal zenith gm
You don't dare talk about pre pull.
Gonna have to regrowth in combat because of your silly ass
you don't have to do anything
Stop cry
No
Me when I want to cheese logs by taking in a buff I'm not supposed to have
Are you supposed to start the fight at 0 mana?
Also I don't really care about the pre pull being gone. I care about the consequence of having to play it the entire fight now
u play dps
ur job is to do dmg
more dmg gooder
preach
neither should be allowed
Are u playing nexus king?
There's nothing which says you can't, whereas the trinket was one of very few examples where you can take a buff in. Unintentional oversight from blizzard
Not yet. Intend to tho. It do be the best after all
Are people playing nk these days
"people"
Nothing saying I can't keep my buff either. Or do you think they wanted you to empty your mana bar pre combat when designing the trinket
Aura
You're just being dense for arguments sake and that's fine
Thank you
one could argue
But should one
always argue on the internet
if it is an oversight by blizzard
it would either get fixed
+1
or considered intentional
I mean obv they just didn't flag it properly. Heck, if they did, it probably wouldn't be worth wearing at all.
But now we are where we are. With the trinket as is (that's on blizz) and wcl invalidating logs (that's on you)
3rd party moderation = cringe
and perhaps
Blizzard are famous for fixing minor bugs

Apparently its reverted
For their third party rankings they should have full control over their own moderation for what they allow
Some1 said yday during raid
one could argue..
Someone in nerubar found a world quest extra action button that gave everyone 5% versa in the raid that you could take into raid, should that have been allowed also?
Lez go
Eelers having fun.
Gonna be parsing 99s on eeler logs as well considering how many regrowths I'm about to be casting
At this point u gotta 2 heal and ignore all mechanics to have fun as eeler on god
unless blizzard says otherwise 
Fkn turbo boost, turbo buffs, nerfs and piss bosses from day 1
source?
they have not stated this have they
are u putting words in their mouth?
clearly tuned balance around having that trinket pre pull
doesnt make sense otherwise
should liquid get their world first invalidated?
they had like 4 ppl do this prepull
ofc
go ask blizzard to remove their kill mayaler
ticket them fast
i have vods if u want
It's not about what's invalid in game, it's about what wclogs deems valid for the wclogs rankings 
Source : something is against the norm
who is norm
something being against the norm is also people like u crying about it
i mean they didnt care
Your norm is fucked
Good for you ig

Norm macdonald(rip)
did he die
Allegedly
Tell me, please, how to sim gems correctly? Should I choose the options "replace existing" + "only max colours"? And sim in 2 passes, first one half of the gems - then the other? And how to choose the best option from them if we are comparing in 2 iterations?
he pops up on my tiktok, funny guy
replace existing and only max colors yes
but why would you do it in 2 passes
theres a lot of gems that are not necessary to sim
thats a weird metric no?
like you know the haste ones are going to be bad
Is it?
theres like thousands of different combinations of gems that are all within margin of error to each other so which one you use ultimately does not matter
I feel like you guys are grasping at straws of why you should be allowed to trinket swap prepull
there can be plenty of against the norm stuff that none of you would agree to invalidate
Got an example?
critting dryad is against the norm
because less people crit dryad than people that dont
thus making it against the norm
true?
invalidate everyone that crits dryad surges
using weakaura that cancels auto attack to prevent it from consuming 4pc
prolonging fights, being allowed to solo adds, playing with 1 or even 0 healers for a faster kill
oh yeah 1 healer forgeweaver is a banger
having augmentation evoker in your raid
weaponswapping
invalidate all of those
getting PI as boomkin
having different gear than someone else
that guy has more mastery than me its unfair
so its actuall for all specs in the game? Remove the stones with the worst stats?
yeah just sim the gems you know have good stats and then let the robot do the rest
its the 1k mastery he has over me
if you choose every gem it will just give you a bunch of iterations that are all the same dps
A norm of the game rules ig 
norm of the game rules 
this game does not rule
what rules bro
there are outlier trinkets every season
i can use
are these against the norm?
Yes
autohotkey that plays the game for me
You literally called them "outlier"
"These not-normal trinkets are there every season, are they not normal?"
they are normal
it happens over and over again
yeah its @lofty depot
and dosnt get fixed
how is a trinket not normal
outlier in the sense that they outperform the other 95%
how is that not normal..
That's not what we're talking about
no explain
We're talking about buffs staying when 99.9% of buffs get cleared
we are making stupid claims about what is considered norm
procs dont get cleared

gz
sometimes stuff is cleared
Huh
sometimes it isnt
it does work
lol salty 
thats crazy
hes calling u a bot bro are u gonna let it slide
guys stop arguing





