balance

[lofty depot]

3minutes without air, 3days without water, 3 weeks without food

[jade flume]

3 weeks is not bad

[livid jay]

just dont eat for 20 days twice ez

minmaxing and limit testing

[lofty depot]

Ur body goes to a state where it eats fat

If ur fat, just don't eat

[jade flume]

I am fat so thats perfect

[round field]

We can tell

[smoky jewel]

Quick note: It says 15% even tho its 10%

[lofty depot]

iirc they didnt nerf it but said they did

tooltip is fake

[dense steeple]

Nothing more american than walking out of a restaurant and watching a guy get shot in front of you and im like "damn thats crazy"

[lofty depot]

Damn that's crazy

[smoky sage]

is there a way in logs to check how many orbs of the antenna I've missed? I wonder what rate I should sim it on to compare to other trinkets on saladbar prog

[ionic surge]

You what

[lofty depot]

Go to buffs and then Ctrl + F "antenna" then do some maff

[maiden pasture]

Random comment to drop with no context

[digital berry]

Did… did that happen to you?

[mellow rock]

hypothetically if i wanted to play moon instead of fury of elune how much of a loss is that in keys

[lofty depot]

Well moons do piss damage

In which ur casting that and not starfire

And u use foe as a modifier not for its damage

That being said. No clue cuz that sounds giga shit call it 10%

[mellow rock]

good enough for me

[lofty depot]

Idk why u would want to cast anything besides starfire

[mellow rock]

because throwing a moon at someone is cool

[lofty depot]

Just wait til u don't see the moon

Gonna be so cool

[mellow rock]

ok ye this shit ass

why does it do less than

the starfall burn damage

LMAO

[lofty depot]

Well

Because when they buffed it everyone complained

So now it just exists for no reason

[mellow rock]

brilliant

[round field]

ye cause it sucks to play with current iteration

[lucid olive]

problem is if you buff Full Moon you end up playing it in Keeper instead

which is dogshit gameplay

[lofty depot]

Full moon needs to do 40m

[mellow linden]

im seeing conflicting info, is lily or araz better for keys?

[exotic perch]

keys prob lily

raid is araz

you dont play on 2 min timers for m+ so lily is better

[lofty depot]

2m trinket very not poggers

[round field]

araz burst trinket

ec not very burst spec

[lucid olive]

araz also primary stat which is a lot better for kotg than for ec, and lily is mastery which is better for ec than for kotg

[vagrant timber]

Hello everyone, i would like to get better at balance, if someone could take a quick look at the kill log and give some feedback i would greatly appreciate it.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/myMjkba8BdgYLR1Z?fight=last&type=damage-done

[lucid olive]

how do you wipe 29 times to fractillus

[vagrant timber]

casual guild and WA problems

[lucid olive]

idk, rotation wise it looks okay

91% uptime is okay, 3% cancelled casts could probably be a little better but its okay

on a 4:47 timer you could've probably sent a single CA at 2m and then double CA after 4 min

[vagrant timber]

aha, thank you, umm do you maybe know is wow analyzer correct at displaying the dmg you did in your CD window?

[lucid olive]

your single CA at the end of the fight was a little wrong but the boss is so low at that point its better to just use everything

yeah it should be

[vagrant timber]

yes that was my tough since the boss was almost dead, was just sending it

[lucid olive]

get some better enchants or whatever and some better weapon and stuff

[vagrant timber]

that i will have to wait for dinar to come since we started to extend but will do

[vagrant timber]

when i was compering mine vs some ppl how come some have so much higher? is that just rng from convoke?

[vagrant timber]

note, will do that next time if we ever do a reclear 😄

[lofty depot]

What's the over under on that last surge being out of ca

If say that's out

Might even be out for both

[vagrant timber]

huh i might have panicked a bit to not overcap on astral

[lofty depot]

Seems odd ur pressing vigil

When u don't press it in cds

Macro it to ca

Soooo ur holding CA and convoke til 3m

But then doing double CA wrong

Which idk, ur raid damage isn't exactly good. Idk if u should be doing that

U should send at 2m

[vagrant timber]

yea i do admit that i did steal this from lorrgs, which probably wasn't the best idea

[lofty depot]

Well it's a good place to go find that usually

But u have to also consider your fight timer vs theirs

U can't just take r1 log and use it

[dense steeple]

I mean i didnt get shot but yeah i got a video of the cops rushing a dude hanging out with his glock after popping a dude in the leg

[lofty depot]

Dm vid?

[dense steeple]

Not gonna get banned posting blood homie

[vagrant timber]

umm could you elaborate on this, do you mean the execution or someting else?

[lofty depot]

The sequence yes

[dense steeple]

Youre sick wtf

[vagrant timber]

true

[lofty depot]

1 u don't surge 3 times in ca there if u don't have lust

2. U didn't ca send CA after convoke

3. U sent that CA after 1 of the buffed surges

4. U then now don't have asp for that 2nd and likely didn't hit the cap from 2 surges

Took timer off sorry

But yea u can see the time

[vagrant timber]

aha i see, yea def need to work on that, to not brick it

[lofty depot]

Go hit a dummy if ur not comfortable

Or do lfr

[vagrant timber]

will be spending some time on both dummy and lrf :D, thank you so much to both of you @lofty depot and @lucid olive for the feedback

[livid prairie]

Is parapodia good in raid?

Tryna think what to pair antenna with in ST since I don't have forge.

[lucid olive]

not rly

[lucid olive]

an active trinket and not a passive one

[livid prairie]

Lily best after forge?

[lofty depot]

Probably

Sim it

[livid prairie]

Will do that.

[lucid olive]

either that or priory

[craggy sonnet]

Priory is better

[dense steeple]

@lucid olive why my sims dont want fancy int gem

[lucid olive]

did you select it

[dense steeple]

of course

[lucid olive]

link sim

[dense steeple]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kEQU2ZyB5JWZ6cFxQz5uou

[dense steeple]

but wouldnt it like, select it anyway if its a bis gem?

[lucid olive]

its either always use or never use

[dense steeple]

oh so its a raidbots issue

[lucid olive]

well

you need to press always use

to access 4 colors

if not then it takes 1 color with all other gems the same

but if you take only max colors then the int gem is better

its just made like that to lower the number of iterations for regular sims

cause simming only max colors ups your iterations by a ton

[delicate perch]

[dense steeple]

like i def picked up the gem anyway its just weird to me that it wouldnt assume its bis without selecting it

i gained 3 ilvl today tho

thats neat

[loud kettle]

its intentional design

gems explode combinations really badly for little difference in dps

to reduce this combination bloat, it sims 1 main stat gem + one type of gem for the rest of the slots. If you select 4 it sims 1 main stat gem one of each color and then the rest as one type of gem

gem sims still take a really long time even with that restriction in place

you can imagine how long the full suite would be

[elder remnant]

Just go gemless

[lucid olive]

homeless and gemless

[smoky sage]

sorry for the late response adhd kicked in.. I asked a question and forgot bout it.. Am I seeing this right that one buff are procced orbs and the other how many I collected?

[lofty depot]

yes

[smoky sage]

compare % or stack count ?

[lofty depot]

well stack count will tell u how many u misseddddddddddddddd

[smoky sage]

well if they're equal it means I got them all right ?

[lofty depot]

its taking everything of my soul to not say something funny

yes

[smoky sage]

I'm sorry im just surprised by the result and you saying "do some math" .. I expected something more complicated tbh

[lofty depot]

most of the time, the simpliest answer is the correct one

[smoky sage]

but non the less.. thanks was way easier than expected. Never guessed wlogs would be able to track orb procs

[lucid olive]

well the orb proc is a buff on your character

[grand radish]

starting mythic dim prog tonight

It feels like the p1 adds die so fast they arent worth dotting because of all the damage we have now. is this accurate?

tbh i almost want to just ignore them

they just explode

[lofty depot]

i disagree

they live long enough

[smoky sage]

isnt 8 sec still the cut off? if they die quicker than that it's not worth it?

[lofty depot]

10

and they need to die

and melee most of the time arent hitting both

do the mechanic

[delicate perch]

No

[calm perch]

yo i feel like boomie AOE on forge weaver is so buns that during myth prog i should just focus ST is that correct?

[dense steeple]

what are other boomies doing?

[lofty depot]

u dont do damage to the orbs no

collectors u do damage

[calm perch]

perf

[ruby flicker]

just started loomi prog. we're kinda really fucking useless for tangled huh... feels so bad not being able to carry that part of the fight =\

[delicate perch]

Carry boss damage instead but just swap if they aren’t dying in time, then they are living long enough to dot and slam

[dense steeple]

just dont swap to the inner ring

swap to outter immediately

[lucid olive]

haha swapping to tangles

[dense steeple]

xd

[ruby flicker]

Super casual guild. People just no show or afk mid raid. trying to prog with 16.5 people lol

[delicate perch]

Loom is a ST boss how can you even swap

Silly noobers

[lofty depot]

kill the far one then

but yea boomkin beans at it

[wintry umbra]

Tangles always seemed to align with when I needed to refresh eclipse for an extra painful experience

[lucid olive]

yeah

thats the only reason i'm happy eclipse becomes an instant cast button

[meager storm]

chat can i get this guy to top 10 all stars

is it doable

on a side note

i miss sinful brand

[wintry umbra]

Is it still on gcd in alpha haven't been paying much attention

[meager storm]

still gcd

[lucid olive]

its a shorter gcd than normal for some reason

[lofty depot]

rather that than running with excess mass outside of eclipse cuz get fucked

[digital berry]

It’s not like we do any actual dmg in p1 after the double ca burst

But yeah running around outside of eclipse due to mechanic is the most cursed shit ever

Not as bad as team pushing into p3 too fast and not having 2 ca charges

Hate free styling cds in amp phase

[lofty depot]

ur burst like 400m

so for 1.5minutes u do 400 more mil

seems fine

[digital berry]

Bro knowing my luck I won’t crit a single surge on our kill pull

Those juicy ass 110 mill surges on amp

[meager storm]

only 110 mil

[ruby flicker]

only got heroic ritual forge. my highest non-amp'd SS is like 57m

[meager storm]

thats pretty good

i know someone full bis who crits for less

[drifting nova]

have they tried hitting the button harder

[vital hound]

you will and I detest that you even asked

[meager storm]

im actually learning it from scratch idk about this one

[lucid olive]

its not very hard

fel scarred a little annoying but very straight forward

just spam chaos strike

[clever ibex]

Isnt reaver the way to go?

[round field]

No

[twin lotus]

gearing DH to be ready to play devourer?

based

[twin kettle]

an tip on what trinket to get for coins? I only have access to HC Raid trinkets and Mythic Dungeon ones. I only play M+ and have 2 shitty trinkets atm

[dire osprey]

for m+ both the eco dome trinkets are kinda cracked

parapodia and lily or w/e

[crude cargo]

ye and no depends on boss

tho you could get away with playing AR on all bosses

[worn cloud]

Hey, can anyone tell me where "Natural Defenses" (spell id: 1233585) is coming from? I keep seeing it from other druids in legion remix but I cant find the source of it...

[royal zenith]

seems related to this: https://www.wowhead.com/spell=211160/natural-defenses

but I don't know specifics on legion

remix

[bold hazel]

I need help. I have cleared Manaforge this week but I am only at 1950/2500rep. What am I doing wrong?

[royal zenith]

did you miss a week?

I did heroic clear every week and had no issues with rep

[fickle grail]

or maybe u missed some trash mobs inbetween bosses

[round field]

Bosses should give way more than enough

Like 5 bosses give you 2.5k

[frail crescent]

I had a bug with Dimensius not giving me rep this week. Could be it happened with multiple bosses for him

[drifting nova]

..does dim even give rep?

[frail crescent]

Yes, usually 1000

[delicate perch]

gg time for a new account

[jaunty talon]

hey , has anyone gotten the hidden artifact appearance for balance druid in remix yet, im not sure whether artifact knowledge is a thing in remix, but it mentions you need 5 artifact knowledge also, so im unsure, i am running the first boss after purchasing the seed of solar fire

[civic falcon]

any lemixers here? what traits are you running for balance? is it still felspike or is there something better after all the changes?

[potent vessel]

i run call of the forest seems pretty ok

for aoe felspike prob better

[civic falcon]

ty

[fluid solar]

Why dont i surge 3 times in ca if i dont have Lust? Cuz I mess up dryad buff?
Hi guys, new to balance trying to understand set piece/dryad atm.
Can someone explain step by step what happens/I aim for in double ca?
Do I use second ca just before the dryad despawns?
Wouldnt different haste levels (which I don't aim for) mean one more gcd/one less gcd inside the CA's?
I'd rly like to understand the technicallity behind it instead of just learning a piano piece.
Sry if all that got answered alrd somewhere else 🙏🏼

When I look into logs everyone I find clips ca around 6s in. If dryad stays 10 sec wouldn't it be better to hold second ca for few seconds until almost there?
Do I clip it for the max buffs before they decay by x% each sec?
Rly confused here

[sacred whale]

hey guys , can i poste a warcraftlog here? from a 10 Ecodome?

[silent gust]

Yo, trynna figure out how Incarn is recharging faster than tooltip says it should.
Second charge should recharge in 3 minutes, no? But every log I check, it recharges in about 2:45-2:50

(not a boomie player, just a poor RL trynna plan out CDs on Dimmy for my players)

is the recharge rate Hasted?

[naive siren]

I guess it is because of the hero talent

[naive siren]

control of the dream

[coarse grove]

if you are looking at cooldown usage timing for your raid, i'd recommend using https://lorrgs.io/

[sacred whale]

Guys!
Can i show you show a Log of a 10 myhtic plus ini, i didnt see what i did wrong 🙁

[silent gust]

Cheers!

[coarse grove]

I'd definitely recommend using lorrgs.io for your raid CDs though

[sacred whale]

https://de.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LBqv4gJ63ZHPbchk can you help me to find the Problem i did only 6m dps overall

[silent gust]

I did! I just couldnt figure out how they had incarn at the frequency they did 😄

didnt want to give my boomie player false instructions, so figured I'd double check first

[livid prairie]

We about to see balance on MDI o_o

[sacred whale]

The vers Armor bindings , are they the best option for both scenarios M+ and raid?

[craggy sonnet]

You are assigning offensive CDs?
Anyway, it could also be potent enchantments (also in the kotg tree)

[ruby star]

hey all, i just do m+ and am trying to look at my dinar trinkets to buy - i have mythic m+ trinkets or heroic raid trinkets - and mythic signet of the priory is simming as bis for me in single target and aoe. Am I simming it wrong? Unsure why it's better than mythic lily. Stat DR?

[paper ember]

If you only do M+ you most likely want to use your dinars for mythic lily and parapodia. Possibly heroic antenna depending on your catch %

[ruby star]

that's what i thought

i've got mythic parapodia from week 1 dinar, just looking at week 2

[craggy sonnet]

You want to hit the dryad surges while Force of Nature is still up. And you realistically only have to fill the cap during your dryad window which is basically done by convoke alone. After the convoke you would need to make sure you have sufficient AP for the 2 big surges which would result in a lot of wraths cast. By clipping that CA earlier, you can put FoN in front of the CA and get to cast high value spells with higher average stacks of balance of all things and with less int decay in your araz forge trinket buff

[craggy sonnet]

Are you simming dungeonroutes?

If not, you should try

[royal zenith]

did you actually check if that's a lot or little?

for that key level

[craggy sonnet]

There is a small explanation in the faq on dreamgrove.gg

[royal zenith]

cause it's just a 10, a lot is dictated by how large your pulls are and how slow stuff dies

[ruby star]

oh interesting. i didn't realise that was supported again

[craggy sonnet]

You can also check sacbrood+parapodia

Not dungeonslice

For a dungeonroute, you build an actual route on keystone.guru

[ruby star]

yeah i remember i used to use a tool for that back in SL

that's ace. cheeres

[dull tree]

Maybe a dumb question, but for the m+ build am I just only doing star fire to build even in single target and only use wrath to get into eclipse?

[royal zenith]

pmuch ye

if you're playing EC of course

[dull tree]

Ah okay. Am I still casting Starfire during incarnation in single target for EC?

[lucid olive]

yes

[dull tree]

Okay thanks for the help yall

[sharp glade]

Is the hidden apparance for Scythe of Elune doable in Remix?

Just want to make sure if we can get it or not from Legion Remix

[brave herald]

Yes you can do the hidden appearances in legion remix 🙂

[sonic crag]

If u know how to get it, is it really hidden? 🤔

[uncut roost]

[unkempt grail]

just wondering, which talent / hero build do more damage for remix. since I have 200+vers now I can stop using guardian and focus purely damage as balance. Elune's Chosen or Keeper of the Grove?

[exotic perch]

Whatever you want man remix is kinda mickey mouse content

At a certain point it doesnt matter just spam buttons

[sharp glade]

❤️

[naive siren]

I have difficulty to read the kotg aoe priority list.
want to try kotg for m+
so I play incarn and no convoke.
do I read that right, that for aoe we just send trees before ca/incarn and shoot the buffed starsurges then without tree-buff?

[lucid olive]

you can hold trees for 2 globals into incarn to fit the 4pc into treant buff

truth be told there's not a lot of effort made to optimize keeper in AoE considering how far behind EC it is

[ionic oak]

Aka. Go EC and slam Starfire.

[ionic oak]

W

[wind mason]

yall think there gonna be another nerf for dimensius?

[lucid olive]

eventually maybe

for prepatch they probably do something cause no addons

[delicate perch]

boss now spawns in last phase with perma damage amp

[exotic perch]

make the 100% dmg amp phase 30 secs pls

giant dmg

[muted citrus]

auto fly + auto orbs

oops balance idk why i clicked sry

[lofty depot]

auto orbs bad, need to hold for dps

[muted citrus]

hold?

did boomies get buffed or something

do you guys do something now

[lofty depot]

we been doing stuff

[muted citrus]

source

[wicked shuttle]

buff bamkin

[hollow mist]

buff bamkin

[naive siren]

ok thanks

[solar arch]

How do you even get em?

[brave herald]

the one for balance is gotten from getting exalted with dreamweavers & buying a seed from the rep vendor then getting the other half of the item to drop from archdruid boss in darkhart thicket then you fuze them and get the appearance

[twin lotus]

I tried playing some KoTG in M+, was doing pretty much doing the single CA combo every time. Idk about higher key but it's perfect to blast some weeklies

only change was going into Incarn with enough AP for 2 starfalls instead of surges

[drifting nova]

[round field]

<@&114146878353833984>

https://tenor.com/view/do-something-comeon-stickman-bored-gif-22722853

[half quartz]

fine

[drifting nova]

wait I hadnt clicked all the links

wtf

[hollow mist]

dw bud I think someone on runescape is sharing them there too, ur in luck

[shut trellis]

but what I want to do is spec and play optimally

regardless of there not being any difficulty

[dense steeple]

then convert it to regular characters and then use dreamgrove.gg

[lofty pulsar]

What is this from..?

[lofty depot]

warcraftlogs

[meager storm]

progress so far

we are getting there

[naive siren]

thanks!
by single CA combo you mean ca-2globals(starfires)-trees?

[lofty depot]

should likely be ca 2 globals being starfall then trees

starfire is longer than 1 gcd

[naive siren]

o lol, I meant starfalls, sry, and thanks

[vital hound]

powerful

the amount of key gear is upsetting though

just get carried in raid

[meager storm]

we already did raid this week

that is a next week angle

[dense steeple]

not wearing the night elf queen robes

3/10 mog

[vital hound]

[twin lotus]

yes exactly

staraflls not starfires

[void jacinth]

meep meep sheep

[void jacinth]

Nah Starfalls*

[twin lotus]

❤️

[meager storm]

is this better man

[lucid olive]

no

[meager storm]

alright

[livid prairie]

cleared frac in pug finally

[dense steeple]

barely

[lucid olive]

i don't like that weapon model tbh

[delicate perch]

have you seen somas mogs? him hating it is positive man dw

[rocky mortar]

Finished a 30 Lower Kara at 5:16, got 95 frags. Finished a 30 Lower Kara at 5:21 got 63.

[delicate perch]

[magic glen]

isnt it random?

[viscid gale]

Has anyone been finding nature's grace not resetting after pull more often here lately?

[lucid olive]

never noticed

have cancelaura [nocombat] dreamstate macro

[lofty depot]

happens when u die out of eclipse

i always cancel mine for consistency

[lofty depot]

@noble spindle is it o7

gotta get this double play

wooooooooooooo

[dense steeple]

I finished a 30 arcway at 2.48. Idk how many i got but it was a fun key

[lofty depot]

OTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[noble spindle]

My heart cannot

[lofty depot]

👀

[vagrant prawn]

@lofty depot this baseball game is wild

[lofty depot]

love playoff baseball

fast forward thru summer, get me to october every year

[potent cargo]

[lofty depot]

imagine bj up like this

getsssssssss the out

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[vagrant prawn]

I want to see a vladdy walk off

[potent cargo]

typical dodgers tho

stranded runners all day

[lofty depot]

vladdy walk off?

its loading

DODGERSSSSSSSSSSSSS

WILL SMITH DIDNT PIMP THAT

[vagrant prawn]

Most anti climatic home run

[potent cargo]

greatest will smith in america

[vagrant prawn]

If the dodgers win Yamamoto has to get the mvp right?

[lofty depot]

uhhh

u know what prob

VLADDY

sned daddy kershaw in there

[vagrant prawn]

Wow

[lofty depot]

DODGERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[mighty mica]

😔

[potent cargo]

God damn

tragic broken bat

but god bless the doyers

[noble spindle]

YamamoGOAT

[tribal vale]

https://tenor.com/view/dodgers-yoshinobu-yamamoto-world-series-pumped-major-league-baseball-gif-44858972229532782

[ionic oak]

That was crazy

[loud kettle]

Hm

[lofty depot]

https://x.com/MLBONFOX/status/1984839062919004339

FOX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFOX)

DAMN.

X · Nov 2, 2025, 4:24 AM

[vital hound]

did you see the nike ad

[lofty depot]

YR

[vital hound]

nike are insane with it

[potent cargo]

kek

[tawny cloud]

Hey, Would someone be kind to look at my Sim and say if im doing something wrong or have some inputs etc
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pSEMcXCWnLtdkQbQrsJjCi ?

[round field]

Upgrade your gear slacker

[tawny cloud]

yeah i know about the ring. gonna craft one

[plucky valley]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[lucid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-cotr-turtle-gif-24251592

[wide dawn]

What is the current raid buff % we can get ?

[surreal sorrel]

12%

[tawny cloud]

Thank you

[wide dawn]

Thanks

[naive siren]

where can I see best where my gaps in my casting are in logs?
I guess there is no such thing as: here were 0,5 seconds with open gcd

[meager storm]

wowanalyzer

copy the log link into here and u can see all that stuff

[naive siren]

thx. that's where I come from ^^
now I want to know where my 10% inactivity comes from

ok but I can work with the graph there and then i can look at the time in logs

[lucid olive]

on the timeline in wowanalyzer

[naive siren]

thank zur
you

[lucid olive]

you see the line after convoke stops before the CA

thats downtime

[naive siren]

oooh, never seen timeline in wowanalyzer. I have a look

lol. me noob.
use wowanalyzer quite often, but never have i looked past the overview

my brain didn't realise there were buttons in the header

[cerulean wagon]

we enjoying Balance right now?

[lucid olive]

always enjoy balance

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[cerulean wagon]

trying to figure out if i want to play my druid or my mage

[meager storm]

prob wait for beta since specs are changing

its like in a week or something

[twin lotus]

is the crit blasphemite any good or just go movement speed?

Idk how accurate the sim is with it tbh

[round field]

its accurate

[delicate perch]

Don’t trust big sim

[mighty mica]

[indigo barn]

fuck cyclone, why does it have to be useful in crit/mastery expansion

[past knot]

Should I really trust this sim so I have two haste trinket? Feels like bait to get Sacbrood instead of Lily

[delicate perch]

9m

[delicate perch]

I have no clue what this but it is 691ilvl man..

you're also simming some random cooked shit and probably EC but it likes haste so yes

(one on use can also be good for m+)

[past knot]

m+ route sim

[delicate perch]

holy a smart simmer

I'd lock lily and see which of the two haste sticks it wants more tbh

[meager storm]

i really want the red glaives man

[craggy sonnet]

double passive ezpz

why not

[lucid olive]

noob

[delicate perch]

nice expert advice

[lucid olive]

thats why they pay me the big bucks

[delicate perch]

($0)

[lucid olive]

yeah pls pay me it's rough out here

[round oracle]

double passive imba forget lily

[cerulean wagon]

favorite race for balance druid: go

[meager storm]

the one that does more dps

[dense steeple]

Haranir

[glossy jungle]

troll
better casting animations make you do more damage

[lucid olive]

i just hope the harranir casting animation doesnt suck

[meager storm]

did they say their racials yet

[lofty depot]

dont use astral form and u wont have to worry

[lucid olive]

uuuh i think so

remember seeing something about it

[lofty depot]

crit thing

funny like root or heal ability

maybe its damage or heal ability cant remember

[meager storm]

wait the owl form is sick

[glossy jungle]

yeah slim chicken

[lucid olive]

too bad it probably has the same wonky animations that zandalari chicken has

on the pictures they've showed of it it looks a lot like they took the zandalari chicken skeleton and reskinned it

[meager storm]

holy

recruitie for sure is taking the ears off

[lucid olive]

yeah this is my pfp in guild discord

[loud kettle]

Any furries in the chat

[lucid olive]

looks horrifying

[delicate perch]

#feral

[meager storm]

i just hope u can keep the eyebrows

and sitll be bald

[hollow mist]

hi

[craggy sonnet]

i think the crit dmg is only half that of tauren tho?

[meager storm]

oh so 2 offensive traits is kinda good ig

crit + the dmg thingy

[craggy sonnet]

that dmg thingy is an active i believe

[meager storm]

[craggy sonnet]

sooo idk if you gon press that one

but idk for sure

cant you make haranir on alpha?

[lucid olive]

no

[craggy sonnet]

but saw it in some roadmap thing i believe

or was it for beta

[lucid olive]

the rootwalking thing looks kinda sick

[lucid olive]

probably for beta

the harandar campaign is out though

but you cant unlock the race

[craggy sonnet]

yeah, i think its gonna be in beta

[lucid olive]

the Thorn Bloom thing is a dot apparently

180 sec cd

0.5 second GCD ?

[craggy sonnet]

where is the info coming from

[lucid olive]

why would a racial have a gcd

Race             : Haranir (0x180000)
School           : Nature
Spell Type       : None
Range            : 40 yards
GCD              : 0.5 seconds
Cooldown         : 180 seconds
Effects          :
#1 (id=1234775)  : Trigger Spell (64): Thorn Bloom
                   Base Value: 0 | Scaled Value: 0 | Trigger Spell: 1238474 | Radius: 10 yards | Target: at Enemy in Area (16)
#2 (id=1235335)  : Trigger Spell (64): Thorn Bloom
                   Base Value: 0 | Scaled Value: 0 | Trigger Spell: 1238467 | Radius: 10 yards | Target: At Ally in Area (31)
Description      : Command powerful thorns to assault enemies and heal allies within $a1 yds of the target area.



Enemies are dealt $<damage> Nature damage and an additional ${$<damageovertime>*($1238474d/$1238474t2)} Nature damage over $1238474d. Allies are healed for $<healing> and an additional ${$<healingovertime>*($1238467d/$1238467t2)} over $1238467d.
Variables        : $damage=${$cond($gt($SP,$AP),$SP*0.5,$AP*0.5)*$pctD*(1+$@versadmg)}

$damageovertime=${$cond($gt($SP,$AP),$SP*0.125,$AP*0.125)*$pctD*(1+$@versadmg)}

$healing=${$cond($gt($SP,$AP),$SP*0.65,$AP*0.65)*$pctD*(1+$@versadmg)}

$healingovertime=${$cond($gt($SP,$AP),$SP*0.15,$AP*0.15)*$pctD*(1+$@versadmg)}```

[craggy sonnet]

ohh

isnt tauren war stomp the same?

[lucid olive]

war stomp has a cast time

[craggy sonnet]

but also 0.5s 😄

[lucid olive]

new eclipse also has 0.5s gcd

its just a weird shorter gcd they like to put on things

but idk why youd put it on a racial dmg spell

[meager storm]

just macro it to a dot

[lucid olive]

blood fury/berserk etc doesnt have it

well you cant macro if it has a global

or

[meager storm]

i dont remember what was the thing that we could macro to sunfire and moonfire

and still go off

[craggy sonnet]

these are buffs tho

wing buffet, arcane torrent, bull rush are all on the gcd

[meager storm]

oh this trinket

hold on

[lucid olive]

but those are utility spells

haranir racial is a dmg spell

[meager storm]

iirc

[lucid olive]

that also just had 0.5s cast time

not a 0.5s gcd

spellforge was off the GCD but had cast time

same with war stomp

[craggy sonnet]

is there even another active throughput spell?

like not a buff

[lucid olive]

arent buffs throughput

[craggy sonnet]

yes

but like

this is an actual ability

[lucid olive]

i don't see any reason to ever press that racial as a moonkin

[craggy sonnet]

not a buff

[lucid olive]

unless its tuned high

[craggy sonnet]

yeah

[lucid olive]

but if its tuned high it feels like shit for any other class who cant be that race

so the thing is just dead on arrival

[craggy sonnet]

probably

[lucid olive]

except for energy specs with downtime

[delicate perch]

feral stonks rising login

[lucid olive]

and for them its just spell bloat

[craggy sonnet]

they wanted to make something fun and cool and new and lore appropriate, ok?

[muted citrus]

stoneform exists

[lucid olive]

never looked at a dwarf and said "i'm sad i can't be that guy"

[craggy sonnet]

hi nance!!

[muted citrus]

clankz i miss you.

[lucid olive]

thats crazy with the amount of shit you resto druids talk about him

[muted citrus]

not me i love my boy.

[craggy sonnet]

do be missing you too

[true viper]

no meld zzzz

[craggy sonnet]

but cant keep up with allat chatting

[delicate perch]

I can't believe anyone would be mean to clankz.

[lucid olive]

@meager storm got rank 2 soul hunters btw

Starsurge high score check?

[meager storm]

now remove the aug dmg

[lucid olive]

[meager storm]

[lucid olive]

i suppose wclogs dmg event doesnt remove it unfortunately

[meager storm]

i mean augmented dmg

that has to be augmented

[lucid olive]

yeah my aug players perma buff me cause they think its funny when i comment on them stealing my dam

[meager storm]

hardest i have hit is 69 mil natty so 138 mil with amp but i had 3 stacks of the trinket

[lucid olive]

but the dmg event in the log says same number as on details so assume the aug contribution isnt removed from events

but this is p3 dam so

we're not beating the sandbagging accusations

[meager storm]

yeah just give us dmg amps every boss

[lucid olive]

i don't like this raid at all

[meager storm]

amird was the last good raid

[lucid olive]

every boss i have to guess what our timer will be to find out what talents to use

[lofty depot]

feel liek that has nothing to do with raid

[delicate perch]

nope just perma use shorter cd

tiers over grow up

[meager storm]

it just started for me

[lucid olive]

nah thats in addition to it

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/ome5-gif-8904969025413294508

[lucid olive]

i cleared 6/8m on like 6 classes

raid sucks on all of em

[delicate perch]

[lofty depot]

maybe u suck at all 6 classes?

[delicate perch]

[lofty depot]

omg he finally fixed his nexus king

congrats

[lofty depot]

me killing the boss has nothing to do with me sucking at my class

peopel dying in p1 cuz theyre shit

[lucid olive]

whens ur next raid

[lofty depot]

tomorrow

[lucid olive]

gg

[lofty depot]

we have healers missing every week

pretty badass

[lucid olive]

yeah

we have at least one healer missing every week

cause they keep saying yes to helping out their old guilds

i got whispered for an innervate by our mistweaver on Dimensius, but he was in another guilds raid and was spamming his macro..

[lofty depot]

lol

[craggy sonnet]

ok thats funny

[lucid olive]

we 1healed forgeweaver today as well

that was fun

still got 1st intermission but our healer got global rank 2

[lofty depot]

only r2

smh

[lucid olive]

yeah unfortunate

the r3 guy used to play with us as well until @jade flume snatched him up

[craggy sonnet]

725

[lucid olive]

yeah he leveled the character 3 weeks ago or something

its his 4th character this tier

[muted citrus]

@jade flume is the gname stormlight

reference

[vital hound]

gally was fun farm

cause you got to yap for 4 minutes in p2

[lucid olive]

yeah mugzee and gally clears saladhaar and dimensius

for reclear at least

[vital hound]

salad prog went hard for a bit there

ngl

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qjZpKm6fyAr9Yd8T?fight=29&type=damage-done

@lucid olive

[lucid olive]

what am i looking at

[vital hound]

these guys killing it a minute faster lol

also 1 heal

[lucid olive]

oh yeah

we tried to skip the intermission but we had some alts in

[vital hound]

true

[meager storm]

???

[delicate perch]

either a legion pvp altaholic or mentally unstable

actually I just said the same thing twice

[meager storm]

im just trying to get 2.1k for the weapons

and i get queued against those

omgbruh

2013 atm almost there

and i wont touch this sht

again

[merry ibex]

So for mythic saldahar, when the boss hops on the dragon do you just solar eclipse and then starfall?

[digital berry]

I’d just solar and surge the dragon

Fall used to be dps neutral on 2 targets in kotg if kindling but we don’t run kindling

Could be wrong tho

[exotic perch]

wish i did like 1/5 of that in legion

pvp levels were insane then

[fair mist]

Do they change the weapons to 2.1k? I thought it was always 2400?

[meager storm]

well it says when u get duelist and duelist is 2.1k

so

[fair mist]

Interesting

[quaint wave]

Rbg honour in legion. He logged into bfa prepatch with 900 honour, plus does nothing but rbg for 9 years on the best teams which was/is high honour per hour

[quaint wave]

Tabard 2.4 now, weapons lowered to create more of a profession. Set, enchant, weapons, tabard, penant/glad mount is the progression now

[sterile comet]

Hey all new to balance and druid in general, are there any essential macros I should have? Thanks in advance!

[lucid olive]

Check out the Compendium guide linked in pins and channel description! 🙂

[sterile comet]

Thank you!

[elder remnant]

ooo my boi Bens guild

casual 1 heal

[vital hound]

[elder remnant]

I could do that

Surely

[potent cargo]

2nd

dean q rbg all day every day

rbg demon

[jade flume]

Which one, i dont read books so definitely not mine

[muted citrus]

the next step

[jade flume]

Maybe, im not sure if the homies ever read a book tho...

[round field]

Books good

Some bangers out there

[void jacinth]

name some

lets see if u know ball

[round field]

Lies of locke lamora, ruinations, yumi and the nightmare painter, blood over bright haven

[void jacinth]

wtf

[round field]

?

[void jacinth]

did you list a league of legends lore book

[round field]

Ruination was rly good

Even if you ignore the fact its a league book

[void jacinth]

!remindme in 50 years if this book gets used in Literature degree reading lists

[round field]

Its a fun read even if you know nothing about league lore

Id argue its even better if you dont

[void jacinth]

books are NOT for fun, they are for suffering

and having to debate if suey is the answer to life or not

[round field]

Suffering is mandatory

No stabbing = bad

[void jacinth]

[round field]

Ur fat

[void jacinth]

true

[fair bloom]

when they changed hall of fame in undermine (you need the last 3 bosses for hall of fame) did that apply to cutting edge aswell? do you need every boss killing on the same character for CE, or is it just the final boss

[round field]

Ce is just final boss

[proud scarab]

anyone else getting aggro of the other random curseblade npcs on the boat of dawnbreaker? just got melee'd to death by two of them T_T

[fair bloom]

ty

[past whale]

nowadays it happen sometimes. starfall dont pull them, but someone else does, with divine storm cone, or idk, some other aoe spell, and after that, starfall makes enough damage on them, to make you their target. tanks need to be aware of this, and taunt them. sometimes caster mobs came in too, so if you dont handle them asap, they shot everyone in the group. i just simply finished going into that buggy dungeon and this saves me a lot of frustration 😊

[round field]

Just dont do dawnbreaker

Simple

Ass dungeon

[proud scarab]

it's strange because reviewing the VOD i don't see any other spell hitting them beside my shooting stars, and nobody gets close at all. But it's very well possible that my spell density at essential doesn't make me see that

[crimson helm]

I found that when the tank pulls the side adds on the ship to the middle adds (instead of the usual mid adds to the side adds), there is no way any cleave hits any adds on the edge of the ship.

Otherwise yes, I struggled too that a caster was pulled by cleave (sometimes even by me Starfiring the necessary adds, hot even funnier when a free Surge flew to the unnecessary adds), Starfalls gets you the aggro and the one caster doomcasted my group to death.
And ofc it's Boomy fault cuz Starfall ^^
So ye, either do the pull in the mid of the ship or... Im leaving out Dawnbreaker for my weekly Vault too ^^

[craggy sonnet]

I think both the surge cleave from tier set and cloak can hit these

[round field]

The only solid dungeons this season are eco dome and flood

[lofty depot]

Go look at the replay in the log and see who pulled it far easier

[royal zenith]

flood?!

ew

[cerulean wagon]

Interesting potential changes to balance in the next xpac

I really liked S2 balance gameplay, I didn’t think it needed much rework- granted the tier set helped

[round field]

spoiler

spec plays the same

but instead of pressing 2 fillers you press eclipse button

its still the same boring shit as last 4 years

hope that helps!

[jade flume]

Bamkin is up good on alpha

[round field]

sure

its like eating plain rice with no seasonings

some people like it

which is weird

but valid

[jade flume]

I love rice

Gotta be jasmine though

[round field]

nope

[crude cargo]

alpha has same eclipse uptime as live ?

[tawny cloud]

Anyone know why you cant do /target loom😅

[jade flume]

Not sure, are u writing the name correctly in a macro though

[lofty depot]

No, it's like 60-70%

[crude cargo]

so there are some gameplay changes if you just cant have this much eclipse

[lofty depot]

Not really

Ur assumption is wanting high uptime

But ur still gonna spam wrath

Ur still gonna not want to surge outside of eclipse

[crude cargo]

if we dont have much eclipse i'd assume we are gonna spend more time not using spenders

[lofty depot]

Might have to send 1-2 for fun, but don't really know til we get to a raid test

I'll tell u I really wish I had an instant cast eclipse on dimmy

[crude cargo]

wonder how will it play since we are probably going to over asp outside of eclipse ?

[jade flume]

You will just spend if you are gonna overcap

[lofty depot]

U would just send a surge, u would just time it to where u have full asp in exlipse

Not really that ground breaking of an idea

[tawny cloud]

Yeah, works for all other bosses except loom

[jade flume]

Its probably because of ' in the name

[crude cargo]

put him on focus

and target focus ?

[jade flume]

Maybe you can add escape character in macro

Or put it in double quotation marks

Like "Loom'ithar" but not sure how wow macro syntax wotks

[lament sigil]

Hi @royal zenith

[royal zenith]

[lament sigil]

Atleast we can discuss our shared love of tier lists in here still?

[royal zenith]

of course

[tawny cloud]

Yeah, could do it like that. Was just an old thought that popped up in my head. And now i just asked 😅 the Macro just works on all other bosses without their full name

Also remember having a hard time tab target him

[drifting nova]

Did you finish your tier list

[royal zenith]

nah he's talking about the grand petko tierlist ofc

next week we get PTR

every week a tierlist hoooly

[drifting nova]

No the dreamgrove one

[lament sigil]

Weekly petko tier lists during beta/ptr goes so hard

[royal zenith]

I believe there's a chatters tierlist

[jade flume]

We need a blizzard addon replacement tier list

[royal zenith]

made by gamz

?

[drifting nova]

[round field]

yeah but that one is fake

[drifting nova]

You said you are doing yours

[drifting nova]

Can’t be fake I’m top of the castle

[royal zenith]

mine would be too rough for the regular chatters in here...

[crude cargo]

send it

[drifting nova]

Rough? No kinks pls

[royal zenith]

considering half of it is nepotism....

[drifting nova]

This is pg13

[tawny cloud]

Any tips in dos and dont for a fat bird who might have his very first pull on demensius tonight? 😅 except for pew pew and dont splat

[royal zenith]

what's your comp

do you have enough devokers/warlocks/ele shamans?

[drifting nova]

De udder side

[eager raft]

Me s tier

[tawny cloud]

I think we are gonna have 2 locks, 1 dev, 1 shammy. Dont know what our raidleader have of plans when we get nexus ( he was 3-4% last week)

[royal zenith]

low B tier @eager raft

[drifting nova]

Not even on the seeamgrove Rushmore gg

[royal zenith]

depending on what side you're on, you might have to help on adds

[eager raft]

LOW B?!?!?!?

Ur insane

[drifting nova]

To pair with your low t

[royal zenith]

which means you can save like a starsurge from your 2nd CA and slap it into back adds, or just fully target back add if it's up

[round field]

me ss+ tier

[drifting nova]

sure yol want that

[eager raft]

To be fair he did say “regular chatters”

[royal zenith]

when you're progging you can probably use 1 more CA + convoke in P1

[eager raft]

Which these days is only arctic

[drifting nova]

Who tic

[eager raft]

Exactly

[royal zenith]

preferably you go
P1 -> 2x ca + convoke
P2 -> Platform 1 - 2x ca + convoke
P3 -> Burn 2x ca + convoke and one CA later on

use wildcharge to negate 2nd knock (think you drop those near the middle) - the rest position well

in P2 just run if you get a mechanic, optimize DPS as you get more pulls

[eager raft]

I don’t think you can get double ca on all those timers

[royal zenith]

Depends on their damage

[eager raft]

worst case you’re starting p3 at 6 min

Double ca is generally only every 4 min

[royal zenith]

have you done the fight on bamkin @eager raft

[eager raft]

Nah tbh I haven’t played bamkin at all I just can’t see how those timers work but very good chance I am mistaken

[tawny cloud]

On pull adds, if they are behind and im gonna use a buffed surge is it worth it to dot it up first og just slap it?

[royal zenith]

it's basically this

[eager raft]

Ah

[royal zenith]

you can dot it yeh, it won't die fast unless people hyperfocus

[eager raft]

Holding convokes in between

That explains it

[royal zenith]

ye

but this is on a kill

[upbeat sable]

What I did was double ca on pull then single ca near end of p1 no ca platform 1 single ca no convoke platform 2 it’s not optimal at all but it worked to get the kill

[eager raft]

I was thinking you were doing 1x ca convokes on cd on top of those double timings

That makes sense

[royal zenith]

this

you can have to adjust based on damage

kinda *

we average around 8:30ish kill timer but our damage is decent/good

think most guilds progging rn might do lower damage in general

(not criticism)

[eager raft]

It’s interesting that those timings only lose you 1 convoke throughout the fight

[royal zenith]

Also there's quite a lot of movement in this fight @tawny cloud so you do need to plan a bit of your gcd's or get used to a specific pattern to optimize damage

P2 can be very chaotic

I only have like 30 pulls + 1 kill (cause reclear) on my boomkin, so there's probably a lot more I can plan to do good damage

got like a greenish log on my kill, but it's w.e.

and use bear for big soaks until healers get comfortable :3

[upbeat sable]

It’s just where dmg was needed during prog I need to shift them round now we’re killing it quicker

[eager raft]

Yeah it’s gonna be a weird juggling act whenever the new 3% buffs happen

To move stuff around while making sure to have double ca for burn

[royal zenith]

too bad balance is kinda shit at the fight in general

cause we can easily swap our damage pattern

practically useless on the adds that need to die asap

[eager raft]

Couldn’t be worse than my spec at that fight

[royal zenith]

about that...

[tawny cloud]

Yeah id just like to get the pull right right away so i dont get too many bad habits

[royal zenith]

you're aware, that already helps

the rest is just get pulls in

[tawny cloud]

In my head i was like dot an add and fire convoke into it and then use buffed surges pn demi

[lament sigil]

Thinking of maining balance so I can chat with deux in here next expac how are we looking in midnight

[tawny cloud]

But then again. Its also only if we get nexus tonight. And we have some pulls on him. I know im benched next reset as our raidleader belives we have real pulls on demi there

[royal zenith]

🤝

wait till ptr... and we will know more....

[drifting nova]

I'll drink to your demise

[lament sigil]

Need petko more than ev

[royal zenith]

just focus on nexus then tbh

first 30 pulls on dimensius will be people understanding the mechanic to get people down from the cc

and that's a full evening of prog

[tawny cloud]

Yeah. Im fine on nexus tbh. My issue with him was the 3 ghosts. Im past that 🤣

[royal zenith]

not the ghosts..

[eager raft]

Dimensius prog is really just learning the fight 15 seconds at a time

[upbeat sable]

Wait till they get to p3 prog and it’s a 6 minute ordeal every pull to get any prog in

[royal zenith]

p3 will be horror

Hope your tanks know how to use their hands!!

[drifting nova]

but thats on normal..and heroic

[tawny cloud]

Just want the start to go well so i can feel like im helping us get to the platforms 🤣

[upbeat sable]

It’s different on mythic all ball carries have to get in the same one to pull one person down

[tawny cloud]

Yeah i know the mechanics. It was more the owl POV

[royal zenith]

and lfg

lfr *

[drifting nova]

yeah watched a friend do lfr when it came out

never bothered doing it

rather scalp my eyeballs out

[royal zenith]

probably the hardest boss on lfr since a while

hc also a pain to pug

[drifting nova]

almost gave me dragon soul lfr ptsd

with the slimes

[tawny cloud]

Its crazy hard on lfr 🤣

[drifting nova]

like 3rd boss

still hoping for no loot lfr in midnight

[royal zenith]

personal loot

[drifting nova]

imagine

stay with me here

multiple forms of loot

by golly we've done it

personal loot is still bad

but it makes lfr actually unplayable

not having it

[tawny cloud]

But thanks for the help! I will take it with me and make the owlforms proud 🥳

[drifting nova]

not too much

[tawny cloud]

When I kill dem. And hit a 49 log. Ill tag Deux. And he can go.. awee i did that 🤣

[royal zenith]

💀

worth it

[muted citrus]

based

[severe hollow]

Lies of Locke lamora will never be finished

[round field]

Shut up

[severe hollow]

(actually haven't checked in a while but don't expect the next one is out yet)

[round field]

Next year trust

[severe hollow]

I gotta get on the current stormlight still haven't read that one

[severe hollow]

What comes first song of ice and fire, Kingkiller or lies of Locke lamora?

[round field]

Let me ask 🎱

The magic eight ball says kingkiller > locke > song

[severe hollow]

which decade?

[round field]

26th century

Witten by ai historians

[craggy sonnet]

dont stand on the edge to drop puddles, you are gonna get double-ticked and die

[signal temple]

AI is actually a prediction matrix sent back to warn us

[round field]

I choose to ignore the warning because it saves me 7 minutes of my time

[rocky mortar]

Is it just me or do treants never seem to actually taunt stuff in remix

[eager raft]

Are u using the kotg talent that makes them not taunt

[round field]

100%

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorp-my-beloved-gif-15872133021000262360

[rocky mortar]

UH NO, DO YOU THINK I CANT READ?? BRB NEED TO FIX MY SINK

[eager raft]

ooopsies

[signal temple]

[ember shoal]

@royal zenith why you left

[ember shoal]

stfu

[eager raft]

yes sir sorry sir

[royal zenith]

felt it was time

[ember shoal]

.i.

[sharp sinew]

[lament sigil]

[peak night]

[ember shoal]

iwe kick nax, you come back?

[royal zenith]

what, nax is fine

dont be a hater!!

[lucid olive]

cause of u

[ember shoal]

you da fuk u aure

[tawny cloud]

@royal zenith no kill tonight sadly 🙁 4 new people so a little learning curve

[royal zenith]

[exotic perch]

everyone has to learn

[royal zenith]

roster boss strikes again

[tawny cloud]

but we had him down to 6%

[exotic perch]

i caused wipes on saladbar last week cause i had zero pulls on it

it happens

[tawny cloud]

yeah its all good. i like the fight now that i got used to it. we also had alot of pull where just started to cast in the middle and didnt move out

[scarlet tapir]

wtf the server isnt closed after the midnight changes?

crazy

[lone root]

Hey guys, proggin Dimensius M tonight. We have people assigned to take the Living Mass Orbs in first Phase, but we having trouble when we need to call multiple backups when the person that need to be saved is also the one assigned to the Orb, is there a way to make that mechanic cleaner cuz it felt bad to call 2-3 backups, having anyone panick by trying to help and all that

[nova ocean]

@wicked shuttle is there gonna be a moonkin monthly or skipping this one since almost no new stuff in alpha?

[nova ocean]

U can assign 2 backups to the wa im to stupid to explain how

[exotic perch]

if the assigned person cant get it they can just say backup in voice

[wicked shuttle]

we prob proc one later in november when we see more

[nova ocean]

Makes sense

[exotic perch]

and someone should grab it or you wipe

do the mechanic lol

[lone root]

prolly too stupid to understand that either tbh i'm not the wa manager eheh

[nova ocean]

Surely they give us more changes beta launch

[lone root]

Yeah i guess we lack fix backup and we over use voice comm when we need it, making the thing messy

[lucid olive]

The only way to really avoid calling for backups is to kill the adds quicker so people don't get assigned gravity

boss dmg doesn't rly matter in p1 anymore either

[exotic perch]

its also just a thing of people need to be aware if it needs picked up and know what to do

everyone should know what the masses do and should be able to just grab it and be ok

shit you dont even press 2m again in p1 anymore so dmg really doesnt matter

[lucid olive]

you assign 4 people who don't have a problem calling out that they need a backup if they get gravity

and utilize pings

[exotic perch]

ping system is quite nice

one of the best things they have added to the game ngl

[lone root]

Thanks, will try to organise this way, ping is a smart way to do it yeah

[lone root]

true

[lucid olive]

but we also had MRT note set up with NS so it would only show "backup close" or "backup far" if the backup was for your side

so if someone assigned on right side got gravity i wouldnt see the backup call

[craggy sonnet]

I dont really understand the issue. Both WA packs allow you to assign backups on each side in the note. And then it calls it out for you if the person supposed to pick it up gets gravity

So if that pops up for you as an assigned backup you look for the orb and pick it up

[lone root]

Guess the guy who deal with WA on our team didnt see/bother/knew and we ended up doing it in voice, felt weird for me so i came to ask cuz i don't look much into the WA eithers

[craggy sonnet]

Makes sense

[lone root]

But i'll make sure to check more into that cuz yeah, gonna change a lot

[meager storm]

shout out glorpies

[maiden pasture]

the glorpies

[potent cargo]

[severe hollow]

damn its glorbing time

[rocky mortar]

We be cool if we got an artifact trait that modifed one of our sky riding abilities to gather all orbs in an x radius or one that passively gather all orbs in an x radius when we gather a single one.

[round field]

Bro who gives a shit about orbs

[royal zenith]

Me

[round field]

You dont even play

[royal zenith]

I play enough

[round field]

Whats ur ilvl and vers

[vital hound]

not so monthly then innit

[royal zenith]

[round field]

Thats what i thought bitch

[vale pebble]

why do u give a shit that he is giving a shit

[round field]

Cause hes lying

[warm vortex]

in the ST opener, do i want to CA right after convoke or do i wait until my first dryad is about to expire? and why 😄

[fossil hemlock]

Right after convoke

To optimize various buffs, like araz

[warm vortex]

okay thanks alot is the 2x starsurge b4 convoke always 2 or is it just empty my AP bar before convoke?

[round field]

Can do 2 can do 3

Doesnt rly matter

Go off vibes

[warm vortex]

roger, thanks alot for all the help 😄

[crimson helm]

In opener with two CA you can go for up to three Surges before Convoke (not talking about bloodlust opener).
If you go for more for whatever reason, your treants buff will expire too early after Convoke before you can hit your two big Surges in the second CA with the new Dryad Buff.

With bl it's way less tight, but in general, that's a good rule.
If you don't have AP for three Surges though, go for two and then Convoke.

[warm vortex]

so in lust its okay to for 3 surges otherwise just go 2 before convoke

[crimson helm]

Nope, on lust you could even go for four Surges probably before you press Convoke, is what I mean, if you're playing ToC f.e. and are lucky to get a Procc in your precast 2x Wraths and 1x Starfire (that's where you could end up Bering able to dump 4 Surges).
Without BL, you can go for up to three Surges if you have enough AP (basically, you can spend three GCD in Surges).
If you don't have enough AP for three Surges, go for the two and then Convoke.

[warm vortex]

Makes sense, thanks alot!

[naive raven]

Hey folks could I get someone to look at a log for me? I've been trying to swap to balance and feel like I've been hitting like a wet noodle in most keys - coming last in dps and sometimes only just scraping past the tanks. This "felt" like the best run I've had where I was mostly pressing the right buttons (ignoring the one swipe). So was a bit put out to see it was only grey and also to see how close tank was behind me 😅 .

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xXhMnQCkNV8TDtwJ?fight=1&type=damage-done&source=19

[maiden pasture]

Your gear is shit

[round field]

its not 5 million dps in a halls tier shit

[maiden pasture]

3 sunfires

wasted 6 seconds of signet cause we pressed it early

didnt use dreamstate and just slammed woe

[naive raven]

ilvl wise or actual pieces?

Yeah dot application is something I'm trying to do better