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delicate perch
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need to be HUGE in remix

vital hound
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yea lol sike

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what are

delicate perch
vital hound
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fkn LOSERS

delicate perch
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it gives some decent cdr too

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get other bozos to send it too

vital hound
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because ca is off gcd as well

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you can trees soul then ca during the weird gcd

delicate perch
livid prairie
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Rollback?

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That's memes

delicate perch
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only bozo's got rolled back gg

bronze tartan
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lovely vault: I can pick up hero antenna or hero Nexus-King's Command (the healing trinket that gives int buff)
so: which item would be better at ilvl 717? I have a 717 araz ritual forge already.

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or is the healing trinket supported by the sims?

vagrant prawn
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What are 95% of boomkins wearing in logs?

delicate perch
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gear

vagrant prawn
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Was responding to trolando.

delicate perch
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that's a terrible response

round field
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Enjoy nerf

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Stupid frog farmer

vagrant prawn
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@bronze tartan pick the antenna

round field
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Dont try to be smart if ur not smart

delicate perch
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trolando do not sim your character and listen to someone who uses logs as a gearing decision

vagrant prawn
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Ok lol

true turtle
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Can anyone explain to me the general cadence of boomie cds?

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Reading thru logs and I am cooking my brain

round field
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Unsuprising

vital hound
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owned

round field
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How

delicate perch
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thats not him

vital hound
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cuz im built different

round field
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Are u like

delicate perch
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what rank are you btw sheep

round field
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740

vital hound
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146

round field
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Degen 20hr a day dungeon farmer

vital hound
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yer 739

delicate perch
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fkn rat

vital hound
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been selling 30s

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for two days

round field
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I just do like a daily mythic clear

vital hound
round field
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And my research

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And im like

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635

vital hound
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so close yet so far

round field
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How much for 30 boost

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What do i get

vital hound
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100k

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transmog + achieve

delicate perch
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fire xmog

round field
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Oh the tmog

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Idc about that

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Im asking player power

delicate perch
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oh bunch of blue/purple tokens

round field
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Also isnt buying 30s like the biggest waste of gold

vital hound
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eh

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100k i think people just go for it

round field
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100k is a lot of money

maiden pasture
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Me when I lie

vital hound
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why we fibbing

bronze tartan
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well the buff from regrowth is certainly not picked up by the sim I can say that

teal sphinx
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because we can

lucid olive
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and its not really recommended because it involves some cringe gameplay like spam cancelling your blooming infusion instant regrowth procs

rocky crag
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I opened and then I have two treants that come up after that before incarn comes up

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but then incarn and treant is up long before convoke

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do I send treant and incarn or do I wait for convoke to come up as well

jade flume
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You delay incarn for convoke

rocky crag
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weird but okay

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what a strange spec

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😭

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it makes sense but the timing is so odd

jade flume
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Its not really weird since incarn has 2 charges so you dont even lose a use

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And its always better to overlap cds

rocky crag
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you do lose a treant I think, no?

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potentially

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it’s only a 1 min though so I guess it’s less punishing

jade flume
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You dont hold treants most of the time

livid jay
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if u wanna play around with it a bit

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but on most raidfights timings are currently pre-determined by weird damage amp mechanics

round field
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If you cast treants on cd it lines up with convoke

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Unless ur hero talents are completely wrong

lofty depot
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@rocky crag

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And I said it before. U don't "need" to press CA when it becomes off CD. You have 100s to line it up with w.e. buffs u can... Which usually means lining it up with convoke and trees

pliant tiger
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is Diamantine Voidcore worth to take from the vault for boomie?

lucid olive
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is it mythic

pliant tiger
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it's mythic yes

lucid olive
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then sure why not

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can also just sim it

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and add a socket on whatever item you dont have a socket on with the "add socket (great vault)" option

pliant tiger
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my sim said it's 01% worse than my

lucid olive
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link sim

pliant tiger
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i don't have void weapon yet and missing the forge too. Added void weapons to sim. Should i add Forge too?

lucid olive
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yeah you're simming crest upgrades at the same time

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so the iteration that takes the voidcore trinket also takes the 2h staff

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which means that iteration is lacking 1 embellishment as well as having a worse weapon than kris + offhand

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is raid your main content

pliant tiger
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well kinda, cause our guild is still progging. didn sim for m+ build yet

lucid olive
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i just ran your sim again for you, just give it a minute and i'll send it

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problem is that you added the voidcore at 730 which uses 75 crests and then made an offhand that also cost 90 crests so you could never use both at the same time

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instead i just took your trinket and added a version for each upgrade in the track

vital hound
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@delicate perch

lucid olive
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and added an offhand at 720 just in case, but it seems it still wanted the spire

delicate perch
lucid olive
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all though the 2nd highest one here is 730 kris + 727 offhand + 727 voidcore

lucid olive
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next week you'll have dinar and can buy 1 of them

vital hound
lucid olive
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i would maybe save crests until this weeks reclear is over

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unless youre extending endboss or something

livid prairie
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won't you be able to endlessly farm crests starting next week anyway?

lucid olive
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yeah but who wants to do 30 keys to finish off items

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that sounds like a bad time

livid prairie
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Release nighthold pls

vital hound
livid prairie
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+6 touch of malice?

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and +3 terror from below?

vital hound
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ngl

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idk

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the soul thing is lit on st

livid prairie
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Does aurostor still have a weekly lock?

round field
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why wouldnt he

cursive vigil
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Hey guys, main healer boomy off spec
We got our first Araz kill last night, secondary stats are skewed by Resto haste

But I noticed my Starsurge ‘hits’ vs ‘casts’ were almost double.
One of the top logs is inly 30% more.

Anyone know what causes this ?
4pc is factored into ‘Dryad’ right ?

lucid olive
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4pc is Starsurge

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Dryad is the damage the Dryad does with it's Starsurge casts

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other guy crit more than you did

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gg

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gotta roll better RNG

jade flume
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Hes talking about the disparity of casts to hits on starsurge tho

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Tbh idk where it comes from, maybe starsurge cleaving shit

celest rampart
lucid olive
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when the vibe is right

celest rampart
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first time today, do we aoe small adds, do we just ST big add?

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do we aoe all pillars (is this even possible) or just ST your assignment

lucid olive
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don't have a definitive answer for you really, I wouldn't bother going Lunar and shit for the Manifestation adds really

round field
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idk just hit boss

lucid olive
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maybe do a cheeky Starfall right as the Manifestations spawn

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you can Starfall and hit more pillars in intermission but if you wipe because your pillar didn't have enough dmg on it then you know that for later pulls

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when the Echo spawns you can also Starfall a couple times after dotting it just so the add dies before the dots run out

lucid olive
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i misunderstood his question then

delicate perch
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can people stop talking about r*tail when remix is out

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thanks

vital hound
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AGREED

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remix channel where

delicate perch
round field
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i wish retail was good

jade flume
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Its good tho

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Bamkin pipes, raid is chill, addons are still here

round field
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but i wanna gear my mage

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and every key i get into

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its 4x kekkers

lucid olive
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I think I ran into Kekkers family in a +10 ara kara just now

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depleted cause tank pulled 3 mobs at a time

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paladin and DH did 3m overall each

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resto druid died 4 times to standing in a root

sudden flame
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had one of those yesterday in a +10 arakara we timed the key by 2 mins, had a 653 shadow priest and a tank that has never tanked bfore and was pulling 3 mobs at a time

lucid olive
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And only reason I got tilted is cause I played ele shaman, the only caster spec more boring in m+ than EC moonkin

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You know when tanks pull to the bottom of the stairs at the start of ara kara

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The first big miniboss spider was already pull number 4 for this guy

round field
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i had

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dh tank

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call us "the worst group hes ever seen"

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while he had 6 interrupts all key

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and sigil of silence not talented

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and pulled like packs i didnt know existed in floodgate

dire osprey
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every1 is 740 with 10m+ power already

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anyways

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gridmaster today on osrs

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🙂

jade flume
dire osprey
livid prairie
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just be 740.

dire osprey
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just make a group and call it "640+ only blaster grp"

jade flume
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Surprised i dont get vote kicked from lfr on spawn(yet)

dire osprey
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and inv all the huge dongs

round field
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you just inv 1 740

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and he solos the boss

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rest is irrelevant

dire osprey
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mythic bosses already fall over in literally 2 seconds

delicate perch
livid prairie
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could solo emerald now

delicate perch
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ya think I could solo both raids, tov kinda forced to have 2nd person though

dire osprey
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just go boomkin and use treants

livid prairie
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just go resto and use spike

delicate perch
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do they actually taunt cause you still have to kill em KEKWHands

livid prairie
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just waiting on nighthold next week

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nothing else to do on remix

livid prairie
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except go 999 limits unbound

delicate perch
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ya I think I'll just login raid/dailies to be giga juiced for next raids

vital hound
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one of each jewellry

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in case of tuning bein silly

delicate perch
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ya I'm keeping 740s

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no point even dusting them KEKWHands

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200 ip

vital hound
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ye pre much

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get your ik up

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wth

delicate perch
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nah I think it's more

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but it's still beans

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do a few keys for +100k or scrap 9 items for 2k

vital hound
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ye let me get back to you

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on the math

royal zenith
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did you find out the math @vital hound

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we're waiting

vital hound
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ye you stink

royal zenith
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math doesnt check out!!

delicate perch
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I ran the math, he's right

round field
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Hes definitely right

royal zenith
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nope

severe hollow
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checked it aswell

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hes right

ionic surge
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Can confirm, I ran the numbers too

dense steeple
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I ran a few numbers and im not good at math, but i came up with a similar answer

dire osprey
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chatgpt confirmed the calculations to be right

royal zenith
eager raft
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Just finished crunching the numbers and sheep was right

royal zenith
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some of you can't even count to 10

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what do you even meannn!!

ionic surge
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Your name is literally two, dont need to count to ten

royal zenith
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fair point

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Ill accept it

wicked shuttle
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Gg

round field
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Dreamgrove 1 - Dunce 0

surreal holly
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hey guys , is haste a death stat now ? in ST raid

quiet crystal
lucid olive
uncut frigate
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I just read the Wowhead article on Midnight's Balance, and am I the ONLY person who has trouble with the current iteration of Eclipse? I was rather happy to see the patch notes for the Alpha showing that they were changing how Eclipse works. It made it look easier to manage

lucid olive
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mmm no I think most people are happy with the Eclipse change

uncut frigate
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I mean, I can't play Balance for shit right now, based on dummy tests, and Midnight actually has me contemplating trying it out again

lucid olive
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why cant you play it

uncut frigate
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Well, the main issues seem to be regularly over committing to Solar Wrath, and accidentally going into Lunar Eclipse, and Overcapping on Astral Power while trying to manage Starlord.

normal pilot
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well 2nd part is simple to fix, starlord is not that important, just watch your AP bar

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you can completely ignore starlord and you might lose a few % off max dps

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first part just seems like you have a bad WA/UI setup and you don't track your eclipse duration, but i guess that won't be an issue in midnight

uncut frigate
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Shit, really? I figured it was something you HAD to micromange, store AP for when it drops

normal pilot
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nah

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it's better than not doing it

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i don't think there is anything in this game where you have to micromanage constantly that matters a lot

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any spec any class

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you will have things you need to micromanage on occassion, like CDs or specific spell timings around CDs

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but nothing where micromanagement matters on a constant rotational basis

round field
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Just scrap the mechanic entirely

teal sphinx
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hey surely one of you guys know, does the PTR have housing stuff on it rn?

lucid olive
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No last I checked that was delayed

teal sphinx
waxen lodge
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Hello guys, what do you suggest to take? ring or myth tier pants?

tacit oriole
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I suggest you SIM it big dog

waxen lodge
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doing already 🙂

azure edge
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Legs

sand isle
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Hey guys, getting close to a Forgeweaver kill and looking to optimize damage. Should I bother DOTTING up the adds or are those wasted GCD's with how quick they die?

round field
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just hit the boss

lofty depot
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Can Sunfire if u want

final schooner
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Do we have a gearing guide for legion remix ?

lofty depot
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Play for fun mode

round field
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how do i do dmg

lofty depot
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Take mastery gear surely

round field
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when boss dies at 4 min

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send help

lofty depot
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Hold 2m ca for 330

round field
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but that sucks...

lofty depot
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It's more dam

round field
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its less dam than 2 1 2 at like 4 20...

stiff maple
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Guide for remix > play bear tanks op

lofty depot
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Yea but if boss doesn't live to 430 that doesn't matter

round field
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yea but

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it smells

lofty depot
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Don't worry, we got 6% more coming

round field
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need to join shitter guild

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that does less dps

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methinks

lofty depot
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True

royal zenith
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yeah, and die from not getting healed

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seems like the right choice

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go for it!

round field
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i said less dps

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not less hps

royal zenith
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you said shitter guild

round field
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yeah

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shitter guild that does less dps

royal zenith
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🥹

lofty depot
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The shitter the guild the worse the healera

round field
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wrong

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theyre better

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cause they have to heal more stupid

lofty depot
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Play in aotc Andy guild

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I'm dying

regal nymph
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Im having a hard time decide what trinkets to go for. I have voidglass spire and the trinket that goes with it.. But Is that trinket better than Antenna and Ritual Forge ? What are peoples thoughts about The void items as boomie ? 😄

lofty depot
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Thankfully I'm made and have 7 defensives

lofty depot
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And if u have bad uptime on the orbs, it's likely better

regal nymph
true viper
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Who unpinned the alpha changes

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Curse u

lofty depot
twin lotus
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so what are u peeps playing in lemix

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i mean artifact power wise

lofty depot
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Either the top row or second row

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Fel dood slams

twin lotus
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trying out first row now, been playing second

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both seem fine, idk whats op or not because you cant really compare with 740 peeps

upper anvil
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Fel dood does alot of deeps. Espically when in big mob packs. Eventually when you get to 740 your abilities will just hit as hard if not harder then the ability

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Starsurges and starfall scale very nicely with 740 int gear

eager raft
drowsy zenith
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i need to dot pillars on araz on mythic what are the best dotting abilities and do i keep swapping targets to do it or just do my normal rotation on one pillar and aoe gets other? sorry if dumb question this my first season playing balance i use single target talents from this https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/druid/balance/talent-builds-pve-dps

lofty depot
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ST, ur dotting ur collector and maybe the add on it. Surge into it

drowsy zenith
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got it ty

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is it mainly just moonfire and starfall? those were the only dots i could find

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or read

lofty depot
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Sunfire

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Starfall isn't a dot like u would think

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Sure it's damage over time but yea...

drowsy zenith
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oh okay cool ty

craggy musk
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Been playing Guardian druid before but want to swap to chicken, anything I should prepare before I swap or can I start out by using the same gear and just switch spec to play low keys?

lofty depot
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Well u would need an int staff

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M+ u want mastery/haste gear... But ur doing low keys so w.e.

craggy musk
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Okay, so a int staff is a necessity? I guess I'll have to play some guardian with loot spec changed to Balance then?

lofty depot
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Well an int weapon is yes

craggy musk
lucid olive
weak hemlock
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Is there a channel for Remix or can i ask in here?

drifting nova
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no

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there is no channel

normal pilot
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nobody's playing normal tww everything is remix

drifting nova
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imagine playing wow

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smh

upper anvil
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There's only remix

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Retail is dead

drifting nova
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wdym dead, just another 6months for xpac

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it's alive

upper anvil
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There's no retail kekkers

drifting nova
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listen, they wouldnt speed up the pacing

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if there was nothing to do

weak hemlock
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Okay nice! 😄 With the recent buffs to some traits, is there a switch in what artifact ability we take or still Nature tree?

upper anvil
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There's no retail kekkers

weak hemlock
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Ah ok, thought we were playing Nature Tree, just followed Wowhead since im not giga invested into remix, thank you!

lofty depot
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For fun mode, play what u want

upper anvil
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Indeed. Your starsurge and fall gonna scale hard anyways

weak hemlock
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Aye, will do! Thanks guys

delicate perch
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You defs play call with good gear

vital hound
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fel double tap aoe

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call st/m+

swift crater
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Any word from Alpha btw of any new defensives or anything ? 😄

vital hound
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cavey and i are waiting on gamz to finish remix apl

covert coyote
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those are some very basic, non-weakaura-needing tiersets

vital hound
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almost as if thats the whole point

lofty depot
dense steeple
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I need a wa for remix do they have those

swift crater
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Cool

lofty depot
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But they're pruning defensives or stuff like that. So vigil and active renewal are gone

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Which is odd we have whi and passive renewal now

vital hound
dense steeple
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No

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I would like to maximize my felguy to felspike timer

covert coyote
dense steeple
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The goat

covert coyote
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they're buffing the other skills by a lot but I don't think it's going to compete with felspike

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too big of a burst of damage, and it synergizes with that fel touched talent/skill

vital hound
dense steeple
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Dh

vital hound
dense steeple
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Cant buy skull of guldan unless dh so yolo dh play

vital hound
covert coyote
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half the remix population yoloed dh

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its like 50% dh 50% druid 50% dk

upper anvil
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those numbers not adding up sir

dense steeple
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Giga movement, good burst, only class that can buy the skull toy

covert coyote
delicate perch
dense steeple
covert coyote
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2 charges on how long of a cd

vital hound
round field
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2 seconds

covert coyote
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damn that long

hexed sparrow
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Are people using Elune's Chosen or KotG generally for Remix? Assume Keeper for raid and elune for M+ (Atleast when you're pushing higher?)

vital hound
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elune beans

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go guardian

dense steeple
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pov you play boomy

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same pov but bear

drifting nova
delicate perch
dense steeple
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gotta clean vault

delicate perch
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wrong

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logoff

dense steeple
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wish i could

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i need vault

delicate perch
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nope 1 and done

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single key

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bis item in there

dense steeple
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officers will yell at me

delicate perch
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yell back

lyric kettle
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It’s 50/50

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U either get good item or u don’t

delicate perch
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yep it's that easy

delicate perch
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don't get a good item? skill issue

vital hound
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a;sp

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also*

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just 12 vaults

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no affix no prob

delicate perch
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sub 12s cringe above 12 also cringe

dense steeple
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all keys cringe

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affix doesnt matter

vital hound
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delete m+

delicate perch
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fellowship in under 24hrs its already dead

vital hound
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back to remix sales

dense steeple
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i just ran a key without my OH

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smh

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almost beat someone

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at 674 ilvl

delicate perch
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by someone do you mean the other booster

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because the offhand is not going to be thaat much

dense steeple
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brother what do you mean

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the OH is 13.2k int

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and embel

delicate perch
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if you lost to someone buying the run

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that's insane ngl

vital hound
dense steeple
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im not doing sales

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i was just runnin random pugs

delicate perch
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pugs are basically boostees

dense steeple
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tru

delicate perch
vital hound
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LOL

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insane aye

delicate perch
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absolute rats

vital hound
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someone gave us a 30 maw

delicate perch
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still 2chested butt whatt a waste

vital hound
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they were like 10% vers

delicate perch
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LMAO

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???

vital hound
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didnt think poss

delicate perch
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bro spent more time in keystones than he did farming anything

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insane work

dense steeple
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wanna carry me through 30s on lemix

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also took me all xpac but i finally got all the mats

vital hound
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ye

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for 100k

dense steeple
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nah

vital hound
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nah can do a run at some point

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when space

dense steeple
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what ilvl do i need to start soloing keys

vital hound
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tbh no idea

covert coyote
dense steeple
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really?

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thats ass

covert coyote
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no

vital hound
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no he lyin

dense steeple
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oh

delicate perch
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jebaited

vital hound
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ilvl dont matter

delicate perch
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it's mostly about vers tbh

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ilvl helps a bit but nowhere near as much

covert coyote
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you can and should farm +2s asap, drops a ton of motes and fragments

dense steeple
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i only have 22 vers

covert coyote
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thats probably fine for 2s

delicate perch
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ya add like another hunnit or so

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bear very free

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pretty good damage and unkillable

dense steeple
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im dh

delicate perch
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it's so over

covert coyote
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people are turbo sleeping on low key farming, people just want to do 30's asap

delicate perch
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nah veng is fine too

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havoc blastts

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ya you speed run highest 3 chest for rewards

dense steeple
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dh the only class that can even see this on the vendor

grand radish
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Do we hold second convoke for platforms on mythic Salhadaar?

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or send asap during beams

dense steeple
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send during beam

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so you have convoke for amp

grand radish
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kk thats what i thought

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fucking titan is beefy tho

dense steeple
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become content with being dogshit idiot on platforms

delicate perch
vital hound
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lol fuck the baits

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i sit on the outside

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payphoning

delicate perch
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yea I defs baited at exit

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whoops

dense steeple
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payphoning rank 13 of the phase maybe

vital hound
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YEP

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sub tank damage

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i got congratulated after doing less than tanks platform 2 dimmy

delicate perch
vital hound
#

"sheep is a TEAM PLAYER"

#

yea fellas I held

dense steeple
#

i want to be on dimmy so bad

vital hound
#

uh

#

yea listen

#

you won't

grand radish
#

nah agreed

#

saladbar is ass

vital hound
#

salad is best fight of the tier

compact pilot
#

Silly question but what’s the best way to break out of the root on last boss ara kara

dense steeple
#

typhoon

vital hound
#

cancel shift

#

with fluid

#

during a cast

craggy sonnet
dense steeple
#

wtf

haughty moon
#

does anyone know if you unroot yourself from shattershell on fract does he just not slam you anymore?

#

it's kind of a weird question i'm just curious

#

does it maybe prevent you from being knocked back?

lofty depot
#

if it does thats abd

humble parcel
lofty depot
#

so idk why u would want to do it

#

because haste good

#

and ui likely dont have a lot

#

this istn gonna change anything, but sim latest

#

its also 0.2% diff also known as doesnt matter

humble parcel
#

also 20k+ mastery

#

dont know exactly cus i'm not on that char atm

#

i'll give that build some tries, then i'll feelycraft it I guess

#

or try some diff sims

true viper
#

Nice scam

#

<@&114146878353833984>

#

no1 click that link

vital hound
#

wtf my car gone

drifting nova
#

free drop where?

elder remnant
#

gamers

#

is there a way to force crest discount in raidbots?

delicate perch
#

increase your total crests 2_PepeBrain

mental coral
#

What was the tip for the council fight?

#

Feels like no matter what I do, I get overshadowed easily

drifting nova
#

crit harder

#

sabotage others

lofty depot
mental coral
#

i'm Katakura - shouldn't boomies dominate this fight?

potent cargo
#

but no

mental coral
#

the other boomy is 713, i'm 714

lofty depot
#

post a log

#

not a details meter

#

r u doing the soak

mental coral
#

sorry yes

#

this from just now, i didn't do a live log, raid still ongoing.. Would have to get back to you on this

lofty depot
#

no one is live logging?

#

thats badass

mental coral
#

we're just an AOTC guild

lofty depot
#

clearly not

#

unless thats heroic....

mental coral
#

one raider that didn't show up usually does the live logging

#

this is heroic

lofty depot
#

heroic is just like afk shit

#

like theres nothing going on

#

ur likely not casting in gaps of time

drifting nova
#

looking at my druid is a disaster class, died on every heroic boss

lofty depot
#

well ur playing keeper on soul hunters

mental coral
#

okay so that means I should be using my m+ build? which is EC

#

Not sure how to interpret what you're saying

lofty depot
#

u should look at warcraft logs and what talents peopple are running before doing a boss

#

granted u can kill the boss using w.e. talents u want

#

u wanting to do the most

ionic oak
#

yall starfalling on platform ads in saladbar or nah

lofty depot
#

sure

livid jay
#

if your group is struggling with titan damage just surge at the start of prog

#

i was surging early prog and once everyone got more comfortable (got their shit together) it was fine for me to starfall

royal zenith
#

^

#

at the end of prog it was pure starfire + starfall cause other adds were dying too slow

lofty depot
#

HOLYYYYYYYYYYYY

crimson helm
royal zenith
#

enjoy it!

pallid bay
vale pebble
lofty depot
royal zenith
#

2k per enchant seems efficient

delicate perch
#

Log off right now

livid jay
crude void
#

Guys how tf do you keep a 95%+ uptime on Mythic Loomithar? pepekarp
Our fury warrior won't for the love of Ian Hazzikostas switch to adds and I need to change on them which feels like I am wasting like 10 globals for 0 damage.

royal zenith
#

switching to small adds = uptime though

#

or do you mean just attacking boss, cause if so - you already answered your own question

#

(not swap)

livid jay
#

switching to adds on loom is cringe af

#

but we do what we gotta do

#

(we will do about 2 dps to them but if thats what it needs...)

royal zenith
#

yeah you'll pretty much be useless

crude void
#

maybe its a movement issue

royal zenith
#

check your own logs

#

and see where you lose uptime

#

or post it in here, and we can check

crude void
royal zenith
#

it's nearly always a person dodging swirlies on the ground or getting overwhelmed by mechanics, like soaking the beam

#

and you just stop casting

#

or you're out of position and need to run a few yards to make up for it

crude void
#

When I need to move I usually try to spam at least moon-sunfires

livid jay
#

if you guys are struggling to kill the adds it is probably also an issue of people baiting puddles in bad spots

royal zenith
#

yeah the thought process is alright, but our dots kinda shit

crude void
#

+1

royal zenith
#

need to really force yourself to actually cast useful abilities

#

which forces your brain to think of better positioning etc.

crude void
#

I will now check something in the logs coz I am suspicious that I lose a shitton of uptime in p2 where I am literally fighting for my life coz we lack heal

livid jay
#

moonfire sunfire spam does no damage, sure its better than doign nothing but not by much if you dont actually need a refresh
moving between wrath casts and filling with starsurge is what u gotta do

royal zenith
#

so yeah, in P2 you will be scared of just dying

#

and you will notice people are huddled up too much, so you need to spread more than usual

#

or dodge other people + swirlies

#

this will 100% affect uptime if not comfortable with the fight

#

or not enough space

livid jay
#

struggling to survive is also not really an excuse for bad uptime
yes you will need a regrowth cast here and there to give yourself some dr and you will go bear once in a while but thats pretty much it

crude void
#

Unless you really need to Pot + lock stone + everything to spam in order to stay alive

royal zenith
#

well you can approach it more practical, aka plan defensives and use them at specific times or know you have pot/healthstone for tricky situations

#

kinda need to find a way to just turn off brain and play your class

pallid bay
#

any spec that dosnt gain dps by hitting the tangle

#

is automatically the worst one at it

#

and its unfair

#

and RL sucks

royal zenith
pallid bay
#

and you should not have to hit it

#

and you do no damage compared to everyone else

livid jay
pallid bay
#

and whatever else people can make up to excuse themselves

royal zenith
#

I don't think you have to blame anyone, who cares. Play better as a team, fix mistakes, fix bad play

#

but that's a different discussion

crude void
# pallid bay and RL sucks

I told them that 3-5 second of the whole group hitting the boss is probably more damage then a single warrior hitting the boss for 15 seconds instead of 5

pallid bay
crude void
royal zenith
#

gained stacks of depression though

#

winning???

pallid bay
#

i need to hit the 2nd boss of the raid

#

can not be swapping

crude void
#

Claim is Fury is stacking something on the main target

lucid olive
#

i don't think fury has stacks they lose by not hitting a target

#

it's marked for execution i guess

#

but those don't rly time out

#

also it's kind of piss dam anyway

livid jay
#

i might aswell not have hit them on that pull xD

jade flume
#

Fury gets from rampage or sth

#

Iirc

#

Gets haste

royal zenith
#

to be fair

#

the warrior is also just right

#

but if you dont have warlocks/ele shamans

#

wcyd

lucid olive
jade flume
#

I mean, whenever i play shamongo or priest

#

I go full ham on tangiels so homies dont have to swap

lucid olive
#

frenzy resets if you rampage a diff target

#

what a dumb talent

round field
#

what is ur kill time

#

is ur guild afk

#

hit the boss

lucid olive
#

says 5:10 in the picture

pallid bay
#

this is some old log

round field
#

so dumb

#

how the fuck

#

are u still alive even

#

with ur room temp iq

pallid bay
#

damn that wasnt even good ragebait

lucid olive
#

its very hot in this room 🥵

jade flume
#

Ur dk should do some m+ before raid...

royal zenith
#

did we talk about the latest wowhead title for bamkin article yet

#

who made it up, was it tettles?

#

or squishei...

ebon elm
#

On dimmy dmg amp, do i send 3 surges before convoke or still do 2 even with bloodlust and having enough ap to send 3, i am unsure about this

pallid bay
#

damn these tiersets seem very boring

wise hare
round field
wise hare
#

cant have some weird ass buff that you need to track anymore, too much effort making that work with the blizzard ui

round field
#

first tier sets always sucked

pallid bay
#

i live in a state of constant disappointment

royal zenith
#

tiersets will be boring till the end of day

#

just power

round field
#

wrong

#

current tier isnt boring

hollow mist
wise hare
#

you know why dont they just make some special item for each slot

#

that way we dont even need to choose anymore

royal zenith
#

bring back legendary items

crimson helm
crude void
#

Don't worry I midnight you will need 2 weeks of gilded cap just to max 1 myth track item, you will cry enough for everything else tierset will be minor

livid jay
crimson helm
#

I think the idea is rather that you surge 2x, treants, conkoke, then new ca for new boat, dryad buff an remaining treants buff.

livid jay
#

well yea obviously

crimson helm
#

If you surge 3x, treants buff might run out before hitting big surges. Not sure with BL though.

livid jay
#

but if u do 2x or 3x surge at start doesnt change anything of that, maybe im missing sth

#

nah it doesnt

#

i almost always 3x surge and it always works and i have like 0 haste

ebon elm
#

@livid jay Yea thats what i thought too, its probably almost irrelevant for dps gain

livid jay
#

haste in cds is fake anyways

ebon elm
#

i am absolutely deomolish the boss in amp alrdy, but i wanna do more 😉

crimson helm
#

Kk then it doesn't rly matter then 👍 Maybe check if dimmy amp doesn't run out before big two surges, but otherwise you'll be fine w/e you do, good to know!

round field
#

but its only for 2h strength classes

#

(again)

royal zenith
#

int staff

#

so it will go to mages and warlocks first

#

and we'll get cucked either way

round field
#

nope

#

2h strength weap

crude void
# royal zenith int staff

Well the Voidglass staff when its first dropped for guild was given to a healer so my guild is already preparing me for that scenario

round field
#

that staff sucks ass for boomkin

#

why would you want it anyways

crude void
#

Its like 3.5% upgrade for me

#

As we are not yet at fract for onehand

round field
#

just get to fract then

#

raid is piss easy

lucid olive
crude void
#

Yeah but we made this guild like a month ago, we couldnt get 20 capable people yet

round field
#

dont need to be capable

#

you have so much gear now you ignore half the fight mechanics on the one "hard boss" before fract

wise hare
#

yea you think that

#

then you watch my guild play nexus

round field
#

im not talking nexus

#

im talking first 6

#

nexus takes like a lil bit of brainpower

#

same as dimmy

crude void
#

Well the problem is the casual player is dealing less damage in 720 then what the RWF guys did in 709

wise hare
#

iam still not sure how our 2 destruction wl are not gapping the entire raid on hunters

#

or our sub rogue

round field
maiden pasture
wise hare
#

they dont even play any mechs

#

they just sit there and cast

#

and yet he manages to overcap on shards 30% of the whole fight

maiden pasture
#

Shruge soul hunters has a lot of movement

wise hare
#

i was fuming when i saw that log

wise hare
#

its not

#

literally

maiden pasture
#

it's the same as any movement fight, if ur good and plan shit for certain mechanics ur chilling. if you like react in the moment to mechanics happening with no plan or movement globals, you shit the bed

round field
#

but

#

are u blind

#

he literally said

#

hes overcapping

#

on resources

wise hare
#

what mechanics are there

#

that he has to play

#

besides the hunts

#

literally nothing outside of intermissions

#

and fuck those

maiden pasture
#

Shruge hunts, triangles, circles to dodge, moving out after chains, intermissions are also a big part because warlocks still crank heavy during them if ur good

#

not saying its a hard fight, just in my experience in lower WR it's quite common for mechanic vomit to just bamboozle people even if the solution is really easy

crude void
#

+1 people panic often

#

Biggest proof is when I am living 30-45 sec longer in Loomithar p2 with balance than much more tanky specs with 2 more defensives

#

Some people just cant press a def and position at the same time

#

There literally was a try where I was the lone survivor with the 2 tanks in P2

lucid olive
#

i was doing it on evoker last week and soaked 2 frailty and did the ire at the same time because people are just slamming their buttons

maiden pasture
lucid olive
#

evoker busted

#

renewing blaze scales verdant

maiden pasture
#

is verdant actually good

lucid olive
#

its just a natty self heal really

maiden pasture
#

i thought it healed as little as like bamkin regrowth

lucid olive
#

little more

#

i guess it might be about the same actually

#

idk verdant always felt more impactful but might be gaslighting myself

maiden pasture
#

for sure are

#

verdant is like

#

if you're pressing that you're really in hell

royal zenith
#

wrong

#

you also press it in downtime and when healers are recuperating

delicate perch
#

if you're on an evoker you're already in hell

#

press w/e

lucid olive
#

soul hunters most fun evoker boss

#

scalecommander bangs

#

flameshaper L

royal zenith
#

you said soul hunters and fun in one sentence

#

that's crazy

#

add 'un' before it

lucid olive
#

i just love mass disintegrate

crude cargo
#

soulhunters is much better since we dont see the veng intermission

round field
#

funny

#

cause thats like

#

the easiest one

royal zenith
#

truths

lucid olive
#

first one is the hardest for sure

#

being chained to some guy who doesnt run out for the first set of orbs

#

or some guy who doesnt understand he's the middle anchor

dire osprey
#

barkskin + bearform + stampede

#

goodluck team

crimson helm
modern kernel
#

for this rotation. which skills we use after enter lunar eclipse ? is that spam starfire ?

swift crater
#

Anyone aware of issues causing Runed -> Guilded conversion missing from NPC?

Have this problem where it just disappeared, rest of guild still have it. But the option to trade is gone for me from the NPC

craggy sonnet
#

the actual prio list is shown when clicking on the colored headers

cunning basin
#

Can we shut this server down untill moonkin gets buffed

cloud cedar
#

No

cunning basin
#

Ok

jade flume
#

We could

royal zenith
#

bamkin doesn't need buffs

#

focus on midnight

#

tier is done!

maiden pasture
cloud citrus
#

bamkin pumps

cunning basin
#

Yeah Maya you’re right I will leave untill it gets buffed

#

Thanks for the advice

maiden pasture
eternal sandal
#

Classic maya

wild dune
#

so toxic

#

classic boomie cord !

vocal spruce
dense steeple
#

Everything is giga broken

maiden pasture
#

Your power in remix scales with only one stat

#

How unemployed you are

dense steeple
#

True

#

Im super employed so I'm weak

#

Only 640 ilvl

jade flume
#

im only regular employed and im not even 600 ilvl gg

wild dune
#

giga employed and 623 sadbear

dense steeple
jade flume
#

Soon, only got 4 more weeklies on my 8 alts left to do...

dense steeple
#

...

errant flint
#

Whats a good uptime to sim for antenna?

cloud citrus
#

i put 30% miss because its the worst ive ever done

errant flint
#

Ive been doing 70%

#

Oop

sharp oasis
#

anyone here who can help me show sunfire/moonfire on cell addon boss frames..?!

sharp oasis
#

what belt to use as balance druid

lofty depot
#

The one that Sims the highest

lofty depot
#

There should be a whitelist or show debuff area in it tho

sharp oasis
#

why not getting used to it? @lofty depot

lofty depot
#

Because it's gone in 4 months

#

Addons, wave

lucid olive
#

boe belt with good stats

#

the fact that BoEs can get random stats makes it so easy to get good ring and belt

lofty depot
#

Some of the boe rings down to 1.3m now

delicate perch
#

login fellowship

crimson helm
# sharp oasis what belt to use as balance druid

As said, sim yourself, but titan disc belt with vers buff (haste for SH with EC) still sims best for me with only having Mythic Raid Belts (unupgradet) in my bag, other upgrades were stronger currently to get. Will probably change next week with no crestcap and obtainable max ilvl belts.

lofty depot
#

A 710 belt should beat it after nerfs

crimson helm
# errant flint Whats a good uptime to sim for antenna?

I sim with 15-20% miss chance according to peepz from my guild, funny enough with this miss chance Parapodia with same ilvl sims better for me, and Voidcore with Kris even better obv. I enjoy having to care less for a trinket anyway ngl. But ye, check your trinket options and see for urself, maybe sim through different setting from 15-30% 🙂

crimson helm
lofty depot
#

Or Crit, but maybe

lucid olive
lofty depot
lucid olive
#

yeah i mean

#

i bought boe belt on a 0.1% upgrade before the disc nerf

delicate perch
#

-socket too insane gains to have there

lucid olive
#

yeah

#

buy belt with socket and good stats

#

easy value

delicate perch
#

just get first boss belt

#

then logout

lucid olive
#

no just buy items instead for gold that you got from tokens

fossil hemlock
delicate perch
#

@vital hound from... tokens?

crimson helm
lucid olive
#

thats the saladararar belt

lofty depot
#

Not like I ran it

#

Gamz don't believe

crimson helm
#

I dont have sockets from vault yet, was too lucky with other upgrades, antenna, voidcore, parapodia to name a few 🙂

lucid olive
#

ran it down

delicate perch
lofty depot
#

Gonna run u down

#

Like a dog

lucid olive
#

shocking

upper anvil
#

Shocking

cursive mirage
#

Shocking

lofty depot
cursive mirage
lofty depot
#

Dores

crimson helm
#

In a (hypothetical) scenario like Forgeweaver intermission, where, standing in the middle, you could cleave all 3 pillars and echo with starfall, do you go Lunar Eclipse for Starfallaoe, but spam Wrath since the adds are spread apart ? Not eclipsed wrath dmg and no additionally ap gain through SoF, but Starfire on one target without cleave ?

(Just hypothetical, Im usually just at my pillar in intermission doing ST rotation.)

lofty depot
#

Lunar is for spamming starfire

#

And spamming starfire is beans

#

And no, u don't spam Starfire on st

#

(even in lunar)

craggy sonnet
pallid bay
craggy sonnet
#

*not more than solar

pallid bay
craggy sonnet
#

darn fact checker bots

crimson helm
# craggy sonnet lunar does nothing for starfall dmg

Wait rly, does Starfalldmg not scale from mastery in lunar ? Or you mean its just not that great ? ^^
Just hypothetical questions following the prio list on pic.
So in intermission just ... Go solar and ST one pillar or Solar and Starfall from middle of the room ?

craggy sonnet
#

starfall is astral dmg

#

it gets scaled equally by solar and lunar

crimson helm
#

Oh I see. Well, thats news ^^ Tysm.
Is starfalling all pillars and echo worth it though or should I just dont bother and surge one pillar ?

gray yew
#

Hi ^^

royal zenith
pallid bay
delicate perch
#

logoff

lofty depot
#

Well it's still more damage in st talents....

crimson helm
#

Okay, tyvm ! Will try it out some time surely.

lofty depot
#

@vagrant prawn cig got the bag

livid jay
#

can we only send singular CA on dimmy on first island now?

#

with how much dmg we got

#

so we get double CA for p3 start

vagrant prawn
potent cargo
#

11.6/8yrs

#

seems kinda low

#

ik its not but like sheeeeit

lofty depot
#

U should hold 2m, then send double on platform 1

#

Then double will be back up at 6m

livid jay
#

ye but we phasing like way earlier

maiden pasture
#

yoo

#

finally alpha acces

glossy jungle
#

the chicken have arrived

lofty depot
potent cargo
#

wonder if I will get alpha access

#

my ban is almost up

#

free me i dindu muffin

lofty depot
lucid olive
#

you do the math

drifting nova
#

I've found a company more incompetent than blizzard holy

#

never thought I'd see the day

delicate perch
potent cargo
#

no slur

#

end of BFA I realized people wanted CM gear accounts w/ achieves and all that so I just started transferring characters off my main account and selling them for like $500 ~ $1000 depending on what they had

#

Like my rogue which had nothing except like mop/wod cm, 2400 mogs and all the pvp illusions got me around $700 KEK

#

do that a bunch and then maybe one day you get smoked

#

and then I got banned again for piloting Kappa

#

we're up to wow9 on my bnet we're running out of licenses at this opint

lofty depot
potent cargo
#

wow rmt funded my stock fund

#

which then funded my house KEK

lofty depot
#

W mans

#

Clash Royale funded my gambling addiction. Gambling addiction funded my basement remodel

#

Should sell the clash Royale account surely