#balance

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lofty depot
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Yes

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U aren't supposed to be on the marker when u knock them back

broken valve
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yea i see.

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i guess typhoon has longer range than i imagine

lofty depot
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Also if u get th drop and it's ur turn, u can drop the orb, wildcharge then typhoon

royal zenith
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typhoon has a longer range than Evokers knock

lofty depot
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Well u don't care about it going all the way thru the hole

royal zenith
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at least

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so you can stand a few yards back ye

broken valve
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ok gotcha, solid advice

lofty depot
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U care about it hitting the hole

broken valve
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1 more advice pls - 1 time i happened to have all 3

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circles, add and my turn to cc

lofty depot
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Cuz it's getting vortexes and stunned

broken valve
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in this case

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whats hte play?

royal zenith
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put add behind circle/black hole

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place cc

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or call back backup if you have to knock

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if there's backup anyway

lofty depot
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Is that 1 time drop 5?

royal zenith
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is the strat nowadays to always put 5 behind black hole?

lofty depot
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Yes

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5 and 9

broken valve
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yes, it was drop 5

lofty depot
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Some guilds put them all behind

royal zenith
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for safety of prog/kill it's better to place 5 and 9 behind the black hole at least

lofty depot
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Ok so drop 5 ur running behind the hole and then standing directly behind as the orbs spawn

royal zenith
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all of them is a bit eh

lofty depot
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U don't need to typhoon that set

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The circles usually end before u get to the drop location

wicked shuttle
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We just put all behind the black hole

lofty depot
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That's curious

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We did that 1 week cuz melee were trolling

royal zenith
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it's the safest

lofty depot
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Then they lost 2-3% dam and started playing correctly

royal zenith
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you shouldn't need the dps check (which is why the knocks existed)

lofty depot
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Weird how that works

wicked shuttle
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Idk we’re like speed killing the boss regardless

broken valve
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i think our leader wants to phase the boss asap, and dont want the melee to have downtime due to go behind

wicked shuttle
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Ya we knocked every set for prog, but the adds had more HP and we had less gear

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Was a pain

lofty depot
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Phase asap, that's not even the hard phase. Why we rushing

royal zenith
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I think at least 5 and 9 should be mandatory

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cause tank can get swirlies

lofty depot
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5 and 9 for guilds progging it, are 100% mandatory

wicked shuttle
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Even in our weekend raid we just slam every set behind the puddles. I didn’t realize ppl were still knocking

broken valve
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its weird..... going behind the hole for all sets sounds like the safest strat, but at the same time is not suggested for progging 0.o

lofty depot
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Lol I seen rle suggest it so idk

wicked shuttle
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I’d probably do it if I was progging it too tbh

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It’s so easy to just drop them behind

lofty depot
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It's the safest thing to do, for people that have trouble doing mechanics

wicked shuttle
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And the check is trivial

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Knocks are actually fucking annoying, and if you’re progging rn I wouldn’t trust those people to knock fwiw

broken valve
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well, i am curious now tettle, while u were progging it, back when ppl were still undergeared etc.... u mentioned u were doing knockbakcs - why didnt u guys do "behjind the hole" ?

royal zenith
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cause melee lose uptime

wicked shuttle
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Bc we needed the damage on the boss

broken valve
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ah! ok

lofty depot
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Again u lose like 2-3% doing the behind strat

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But the check isn't real anymore

wicked shuttle
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It also makes the group soaks a bit sketchier

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But like whatever healers heal

royal zenith
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to be fair, RLE is a bit weird, which is probably his source

round field
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Boss goes into p2 after first dmg amp anways

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Dont have to do mechanics

royal zenith
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it's like a "Yesn't" answer

lofty depot
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3 knocks that u trust

wicked shuttle
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The problem isn’t the only the knock, the problem is people dropping them on the right spot and the knock person not being an animal

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lol

pallid bay
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the problem is making assignments every week

royal zenith
royal zenith
wicked shuttle
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Real

lofty depot
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Is sune the assignment doer?

royal zenith
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I dunno, coming back to your original question @broken valve

wicked shuttle
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Also it’s just +100 points of failure that aren’t necessary?

lofty depot
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Pray for his sanity

royal zenith
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if you get overlaps of all mechanics, you need to call for backup

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on the knock

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if that's the strat you guys will go with

pallid bay
lofty depot
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Kek

broken valve
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i will let my leader know! ty

lofty depot
broken valve
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at 230?

lofty depot
lofty depot
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U shouldn't send it until amp

lofty depot
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Or me, when I send it the last 10% of collectors

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But is cringe, don't try it

broken valve
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isnt the collectors the priority?

lofty depot
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Not for u....

broken valve
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oh ok

lofty depot
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U do be targeting them

broken valve
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yea, from my understanding balance druids in araz are used as pushers on the boss righgt?

lofty depot
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Based gamer is playing st talents

broken valve
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so i should be playing selfishishly and save cds for amp phase - gotcha

lofty depot
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Well, yes the mechanic

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But boomkins do damage during the amp

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Selfishly I suppose is how other classes would call doing damage to boss over collectors

broken valve
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well... yea.... "selfishishly" is a strong word

lofty depot
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But if ur ST and sending on collectors u would push faster than other collector sides

broken valve
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yes, that is true

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we had this issue

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2/3 collectors ( 1 being mine ) was dying faster than the 3rd

lofty depot
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Which is why I send at the end of collectors to make sure they all die at the same time

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But I'm just used to it being a problem

twin lotus
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you can use https://lorrgs.io/ to see how boomies use cooldowns with a quick glance. For araz you do double CA into double CA for example.

lofty depot
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Big gamer shit

twin lotus
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actual cook

lofty depot
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Nah this was the actual cook

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And then they ruined fun

twin lotus
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lmao is that for first adds?

lofty depot
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Yea lol

royal zenith
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it's important to see more of the fight

twin lotus
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ahaha, did they remove add dmg from logs?

lofty depot
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The orbs I think

royal zenith
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but at some point you're comfortable enough with damage to actually just go full dmg amps

lofty depot
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Idk about the attendant

twin lotus
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i would only remove from attendants, orbs actually matter

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but w/e, araz is meme boss anyways

royal zenith
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orbs dont matter

twin lotus
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only memier is soulbinders

royal zenith
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don't be silly

lofty depot
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Send CA on collectors cuz those count

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Lock in

royal zenith
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they already died within half a second, max a second during prog

lofty depot
royal zenith
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if not then you might be running a crooked comp

lofty depot
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Need to add afkers so bosses are fun

twin lotus
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ok deux Deux

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midnight boomie will be able to pad burst adds

lofty depot
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Should roll 100 for lowest 2 to afk

lofty depot
broken valve
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well, i gtg for now, but thank you all for your feedback! amazing advices ❤️

lofty depot
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I'm known for the advices o7

round field
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misinformation*

craggy sonnet
craggy sonnet
lofty depot
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Yeayea

jade flume
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For anybody but like top 5 world it was better to just drop that shit behind

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On god

modern kernel
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how to claim this quest ?

livid jay
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dk asking questions about remix quests in balance druid channel gg

sudden flame
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looks like you havent completed it gang

modern kernel
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If I change artffilcal weapon, will I get the same ilvl of my current weapon or not ?

sudden flame
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ya

round field
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why is

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frost dk

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asking questions

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about remix

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in balance channel

royal zenith
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imagine talking about wow

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better swap back to runescape

sudden flame
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I play fdk on remix too

vale pebble
round field
tepid copper
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Is hidden artifact obtainable during legion remix ? And do I have to farm first boss of dht m0 ?

somber token
mighty mica
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should be

round field
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bugged currently

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vendor doesnt sell the seed

covert coyote
royal zenith
void jacinth
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they are magic seeds

round field
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Thats gay

void jacinth
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just give me the cow that sustains your whole family

void jacinth
round field
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Rude

void jacinth
drifting nova
smoky prawn
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Did they buff ec tier set procc chance?

lucid olive
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no

smoky prawn
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then i was giga blessed by rngssus

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3 6 stackers in a row isnt normal these days without delaying fury

coarse grove
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still need myth track shoulders but this ring will do

lofty depot
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tragic.... i crafted neck 2 weeks ago

craggy sonnet
lofty depot
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big gains

zinc lagoon
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Hey guys, how do you feel with Plexus myth ring for raid? Considering we need some crit

round field
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uh

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its just a ring

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with stats

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if it sims good use it

zinc lagoon
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xD

round field
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what are we xDing?

zinc lagoon
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Well i guess that was exactly the answer i was expecting

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thanks anyway

jade flume
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Its a good ring ye

drifting nova
warm dagger
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Always sim, is the answer you will get in every discord lol

craggy sonnet
lofty depot
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ye

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i have too much crit :/

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but 10 ilvl is better i suppose

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we have 5k haste tho

drifting nova
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actual slug casting

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war is over by the time you're finished

lofty depot
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yea cuz i crit them like 60m

lucid olive
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i have like 4.5k or something

lofty depot
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Yea I have the alpha ring

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It's like 1200 haste

formal crest
craggy sonnet
lofty depot
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I have both

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Idk which is which

kind sage
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yo guys

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can u use astral form in remix?

paper granite
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yes

kind sage
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and where can i get it

paper granite
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in the timeway bubble thing

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cant remember the vendor

kind sage
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ohhh thx

wicked shuttle
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Should be illegal tbh

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Moonkin form should be required

royal zenith
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nuh uh

mighty mica
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-2

twin lotus
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is that NL reference?

unique dirge
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Hey guys! I have mythic voidglass spire in my vault that I'm tempted to take (everything else is a downgrade). but how do you balance having embelishments if you use a noncrafted weapon/offhand?

mighty mica
sharp oasis
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Serious question.. What to prefer for m+, Destruction warlock or balance druid? 🙂

mighty mica
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flip a coin

exotic perch
drifting nova
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the stars glyph should give you -50% damage

wicked shuttle
wicked shuttle
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It’s the fantasy.

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But we also should get more customizable forms

drifting nova
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mandatory shape shifting when

wicked shuttle
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Druid referendums

true viper
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round field
drifting nova
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crime the saberon form was deleted

lucid olive
drifting nova
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I still trust the lore of war is coming

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for a treant boss

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one day

lucid olive
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gnarlroot was first boss in amirdrassil

drifting nova
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who what

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I cant remember what I ate yesterday

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you think I know that far back

lucid olive
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its this guy but firelandsified

loud kettle
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huh, no gnarlroot is the tree boss in everbloom silly

drifting nova
lucid olive
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no thats witherbark

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you new?

drifting nova
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one of those big boyos

lucid olive
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gnarlroot was just walking around in everbloom

loud kettle
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gg...

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think he was in darkshore too right

lucid olive
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yeah

loud kettle
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is he coming back...

lucid olive
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he's like the token "guys it would be cool with a giant tree guy helping out night elves here" character

royal zenith
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unacceptable take

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glyph of stars > all

dense steeple
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Give me a glyph of stars that doesnt make me translucent blue while we're at it

loud kettle
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infinite transmogs every patch, new forms every 4 expansions

oblique shadow
dense steeple
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I aint playing dog shit classic game nodes for mog

uncut roost
exotic perch
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great take by mr tettleton

lofty depot
exotic perch
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insane that we dont have more druid forms

exotic perch
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also that the emerald dream ones are 1%

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can you tweet about that dogshit implementation of those forms

lofty depot
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"proposing changes" "they're demands"...tettles with power

rocky crag
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learning st balance and question

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why does wowhead recommend you cast two wraths? if its st dont you want to go into solar eclipse

round field
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Its before you pull the boss

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Free casts

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And you press ca after so it doesnt matter what eclipse youre in

rocky crag
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fair enough

digital berry
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you get a couple of seconds of dot dmg inside eclipse instead of outside, it bdoesnt matter in the grand scheme of things

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the only thing that really might matter is starting to cast starfire before pull so you end as the boss is pulled and get the extra asp

vagrant prawn
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Transmog is the worst thing to happen to video games.

lofty depot
# rocky crag fair enough

as a side note, when in normal rotation, u dont need to enter/be in eclipse to then enter ca. its a precast thing for extra damage

coarse grove
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what's a realistic uptime % for dawnthread / duskthread lining in M+ and/or Raid?

lofty depot
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m+ no clue

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raid like 80%

coarse grove
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found a log with Cannex doing a 18 EDA and he had 85% uptime

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better than I thought esp for a key with lots of mobs that do aoe damage

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around ~80% uptime duskthread seems to be comparable to ascendence + writhing

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at least for my gear (post-turbo-boost gains)

golden mango
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i know it's an agi trinket but this channel is smart. anyone know how to sim prism with full stacks on pull?

raven totem
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Does anyone know in Plater where to customize the colors for if a target has X buff (i.e. Moonfire) on them?

lofty depot
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well moonfire is a debuff

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but there are scripts for it, but u should just get used to not having it

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cuz its gone in a couple of months 🙂

lofty depot
sharp oasis
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What is the key to survive as boomy in m+ since we only have barkskin and bearform? I mean bearform is such a DPS loss?

lofty depot
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dying is a bigger dps loss

craggy sonnet
golden mango
craggy sonnet
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ah i c

rocky crag
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i find my cds are somewhat misaligned like i dont know when to press force of nature , incarn, and convoke

tough juniper
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As far as I play, Basically cast FoN on cooldown, and never cast convoke by itself, always cast it with CA or FoN

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If you get your CD's timed right you should be able to get another burst of FoN CA & Convoke all at the same time

vagrant prawn
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I dont think you should ever cast convoke without CA...

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@rocky crag you arent doing the opener right at all... check the compendium

rocky crag
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it just isnt coming up in time its all misaligned and weird

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how it looks for me kind of is convoke, fon, and incarn are aligned at the start, and then fon comes off cd a few times so i use that, but then for some reason i get an incarn + fon without a convoke

lucid olive
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wtf happened on soulbinder

rocky crag
lucid olive
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I look at all of them

vagrant prawn
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your plexius is wrong too..

tough juniper
rocky crag
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yea, help me fix that

lucid olive
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if you want tips on how to be bette then you take all of it

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Yes your opener is wrong

rocky crag
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because i thought it was

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wrath 2x pre pull then you go into a fon into incarn and then get rid of energy and do convoke

lucid olive
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and I could go beyond checking that, but the info about opener is very easily available in wowhead guide and Dreamgrove Compendium so I'll assume that you could benefit from reading either of those more

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I could point out individual mistakes like not cancelling a Starfire in the middle of your CDs

vagrant prawn
lucid olive
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But all those points could just be fixed by going over the guide and taking it in

lucid olive
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then you proceed to build AP until you're about to cap and Surge to not overcap

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until your 2nd Dryad is about to die

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Also you should start the Wrath casts before pull and not 3 seconds in

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If someone just ninjapulls boss you don't bother using them

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You also didn't Sunfire here

rocky crag
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why do they cast a starfire after 2x wrath

lucid olive
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Because you can

tough juniper
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Question, why cast Moonfire if FoN casts it for you? I have never casted Moonfire even prepull, just see it as a waste of a gcd

vagrant prawn
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the wraths are in the air so you have a free cast

lucid olive
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Ideally the boss should pull as your Starfire neds

lucid olive
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And you risk casting 1-2 Starsurges on targets without Moonfire on them

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It's better to just do it yourself

rocky crag
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ok ill practice and see, ive never tried playing moonkin in an actual raid b4 just m+ which was a lot different (it was 2 buttons LOL)

tough juniper
rocky crag
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maybe if my rotation is right stuff wont be weirdly misaligned like idk whats going on, it just seems like convoke never will align with the other two

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im honestly a feral druid who just doesnt want to be benched on dimensius

lucid olive
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why would you be benched on dimensius as feral

vagrant prawn
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heroic dimensious at that

rocky crag
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melee sucks for that fight

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i mean mythic

lucid olive
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this is the reason your CDs are not lining up btw

rocky crag
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we're on nexus prog

lucid olive
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feral bangs on dimensius

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idk if your guild is just chain gaslighting you or something

rocky crag
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idk, i was benched for soul hunters

tough juniper
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Weird, Our Feral druid is usually one of our top3 dps on dimensious

lucid olive
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maybe you're benched because there are better players than you but your officers blame it on the spec

vagrant prawn
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i mean ya soul hunters melee sucks

rocky crag
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we're melee heavy with like multiple DKs etc., i don't even get pi

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half the time

lucid olive
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ok PI shouldnt be an expectation

wild dune
tough juniper
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PI is a variable dont ever count on it for your dps lmao

vagrant prawn
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trying to prog dimensious when you have not a very good understanding of a spec at all is probably not a good idea

lucid olive
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god wr 1k guilds do some questionable decisions

rocky crag
tough juniper
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Then what was the point of bringing up PI lmao, read some guides and practice the rotation, that will help your dps more than PI ever will

lucid olive
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thats not what he was saying

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but sure

rocky crag
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because we were talking about how i'm learning balance for dimensius prog

lucid olive
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idk I would just play feral for Dimensius that spec is fine to play

rocky crag
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melee spots are competitive

lucid olive
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you're also not in for NK for some reason

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and you're playing 2 shadow priests

potent cargo
rocky crag
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i had thanksgiving on monday

lucid olive
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ah

potent cargo
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like all u do is just copy the template and let it rip

lucid olive
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yeah idk feral is good on Dimensius

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there's no range requirement either really

vagrant prawn
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has your Raidleader told you that you will be sat if you play feral?

lucid olive
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there's several ways to solve the anti gravity soaks in p2 and p3 depending on your comp

rocky crag
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i keep hearing the opposite but i could just be gaslit

lucid olive
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yeha i mean

rocky crag
lucid olive
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wr 1k guild just rips some shit they hear from heroic raider on instagram reels

rocky crag
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if i played ranged we'd be having a "different discussion"

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is what i got told

vagrant prawn
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yes but soul hunters is a bad melee fight

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and dimensious is not

rocky crag
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isn't dimensius too, no? feral is ass at target swapping

drifting nova
lucid olive
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so is balance

vagrant prawn
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and you think balance is?!!?!

lucid olive
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feral and balance do the exact same thing

rocky crag
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like yeah id do massive boss dmg

lucid olive
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identical damage pattern and timers for dimensius

tough juniper
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Our Top 3 dps in soul hunters was a feral druid

exotic perch
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yikes

tough juniper
lucid olive
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and yeah Soul Hunters is great for feral

drifting nova
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doesnt feral just spam swipe

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for aoe or

lucid olive
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they do insanely good if you can talent into full prolonged aoe talents

rocky crag
lucid olive
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primal wrath for big rip uptime

drifting nova
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thrash? for the bleed

lucid olive
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lots of apex predator procs

drifting nova
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yeah idk what that is

exotic perch
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nah you rotate thrash/rake/brutal slash

rocky crag
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no

drifting nova
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I specced into feral once in voti for 10mins

lucid olive
# rocky crag no

Okay so I'm gonna give you the absolute best tip I can right now

drifting nova
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most I've ever seen of feral

lucid olive
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And you should really listen to this

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Do not ever take anything @drifting nova says seriously

rocky crag
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LOL ok

drifting nova
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you're smart for playing feral 🙂

tough juniper
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lmfaoo

drifting nova
lucid olive
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It is not worth responding to or acknowledging

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Unless you are really fiending and have an itch for being ragebaited that you can't scratch

rocky crag
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honestly though, i want to learn balance because since being benched on soulhunters, i don't want anymore of these excuses, i just want to be able to fill any role

lucid olive
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Yeah I mean, learning the other DPS spec is always positive

exotic perch
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do not listen to kekkers, do not interact with kekkers

drifting nova
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benched on an easy boss? holy

rocky crag
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i suck ass rn but give me a week

exotic perch
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jk kekkers is fun

lucid olive
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I'd still say go watch my youtube video guide linked in Compendium and then read the Compendium

drifting nova
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self plug wtf

lucid olive
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And then come back if you have anything specific after that

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Go hit some dummies

drifting nova
rocky crag
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ok

lucid olive
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also in Midnight you can set up training dummies in your house

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W learning

tough juniper
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The ragebate is realdakorcalmao
@lucid olive

drifting nova
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training dummies are bait

rocky crag
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honestly i just want a way to reset cds

drifting nova
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more at 11

rocky crag
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like

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its annoying waiting 2-4 mins for cds to be up

vagrant prawn
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then roll a warlock

rocky crag
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why would i ever want to play warlock 😭

vagrant prawn
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you wont get sat on soulhunters 🙂

rocky crag
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that is v true but i don't really like playing specs i don't find semi-enjoyable

exotic perch
lucid olive
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its fun when you crit

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its very unfun later in the phase when you randomly get your 4pc taken away from you because your character decided to wind up an auto attack

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but big dopamine in the burn when you see 110m crit

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and then despair right after when you think back to PTR before they ruined the tier set

exotic perch
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lmao

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feral does seem so much easier in that phase

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melee in general is

lucid olive
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yeah i can believe that

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moonkin is a lot of spamming sunfire while walking through ring

exotic perch
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soon i will get the kill (when off bench)

lucid olive
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i don't even know what guild you're in ngl

exotic perch
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damn dont even care about me...

lucid olive
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thats right

exotic perch
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and its Alpha btw

lucid olive
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heck yeah

exotic perch
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obviously not the chinese one lol

craggy sonnet
dense steeple
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i know a couple phd gamers that i used to raid with so i could put together a new raid group

leaden birch
#

does antenna sim at 100%?

lofty depot
#

do u miss orbs or

leaden birch
#

nah just curious

#

I've seen people mention they sim it at a lower %, just curious what the sim sims at

lofty depot
#

what ever u set it at

#

at the bottom

analog moat
#

Do ya'll prefer keeper or elune's for M+? I mostly play feral but may dabble in balance for M+ for fun.

lofty depot
#

ec

leaden birch
#

default is 0% miss lmao damn

#

no wonder it sims so high

lofty depot
#

sims high at 20% miss

#

is good

leaden birch
#

what % do people usually miss? I have no idea how to check logs

lofty depot
#

well i dont miss

leaden birch
#

20% miss is what yall usually sim it at?

lofty depot
#

but u, probably 20

leaden birch
fiery kindle
#

What is the currently used opener with convoke

#

any logs?

lofty depot
#

probably your other cds

#

read the guide

fiery kindle
#

i did

lofty depot
#

and yea sure u can look at r1 logs

leaden birch
#

opener is under some drop down in the guide

lofty depot
#

x for doubt

leaden birch
#

is that not a drop down

lofty depot
#

wasnt for u dork

fiery kindle
#

I only wanted the log

lofty depot
#

u asked what u used in the opener

#

it shows what u use

#

u can also go to warcraftlogs and find a log

fiery kindle
#

I wanted to ask a knowledgeable friend like you...

lofty depot
#

u asked for a log after asking for what to do

fiery kindle
#

chill

lofty depot
#

im chill

lofty depot
#

playing ec

#

pressing foe before incarn

#

during the intermission u dotted none of the adds

#

playing the aoe build and does no aoe

#

ur pressing starfall on st

#

if u know ur gonna incarn in 10 seconds u should be holding woe

fiery kindle
#

because they bl, i want pump it but i forgot dotting

lofty depot
#

why panick

#

its the 2nd boss

fiery kindle
#

my prio is dot, right?

lofty depot
#

it fall over with subtle wind

fiery kindle
lofty depot
#

ur prio is to kill the boss

#

ur playing cringe build on a boss that doesnt count on all star points

fiery kindle
#

When the adds come, we press the bl, I feel like there's no time left for dotting.

lofty depot
#

why do u feel like that

#

u can dot them in narnia

#

ur cds last 16 seconds

#

dot them before cd-ing

#

or play st and dont worry about bl or the adds

fiery kindle
#

what u prefer

lofty depot
#

well if im calling the M+ / ec build cringe

#

we can deduce that i play st

fiery kindle
#

Is single target playable on this boss? i didnt know

lofty depot
#

did u go to warcraftlogs and check?

fiery kindle
#

This talent was being played most recently

lofty depot
#

i beg to differ

#

also ST or keeper has been played since week 1 (by some of us)

fiery kindle
#

uh, i will check

#

I just started playing Raid and am trying to improve myself.

#

just m+ xd

lofty depot
#

look at warcraftlogs before pulling boss >

#

i mean if ur just killing 2 bosses

#

u can play w.e.

fiery kindle
#

yeah i will check, also i watch dwilkz every time

#

he is good

lofty depot
#

he is bm hunter, so his good value is in the negative

#

and idk if good would describe him

#

@carmine vigil

fiery kindle
#

uh

#

I enjoy watching him play

lofty depot
#

dont worry me too

fiery kindle
#

Thanks for your suggestions

delicate perch
#

won't catch me getting hit

carmine vigil
#

i killed the boss one time man 🙁

lofty depot
carmine vigil
#

first time i ever got to play p3 i died and we kill gg

lofty depot
#

well ur guild killed u mean

lucid olive
delicate perch
lucid olive
#

Yeah I know

fiery kindle
#

doesn't like watching cringe games, i think xd

delicate perch
#

kinda impressive

lucid olive
#

We have austrians like Sheep around..

delicate perch
#

he dms me his slur of the day every morning too

#

@vital hound

lucid olive
#

He doesn't do that to me..

delicate perch
#

lucky..

lucid olive
#

He just ignores my great taste in Instagram reels

delicate perch
#

aren't insta reels just 3 week old tiktoks

lucid olive
#

Yeah but he wouldn't add me on TikTok.. I just have @eager raft on there and I don't think he looks at them

rocky crag
#

@lucid olive earlier i did what i thought to be an improved opener but i still did around the same amount of dmg (missing ~500k) 😭 idk what's going on here lemme find it

#

i think its this one at least

eager raft
lucid olive
#

@lofty depot I'm boutta sleep help this guy out

rocky crag
#

im going nuts

lofty depot
#

didnt press ca

lucid olive
#

Didn't Moonfire either

lofty depot
#

which is also odd that u then sent ur surges here before ca

#

he did

#

just not in pic

lucid olive
#

Banger

lofty depot
#

well actually it is

#

rekt

#

sent cds at 1m which means u wont have it when convoke is up at 2m

#

so then ur doing this

#

surely blizzard listens to feedback

#

(they dont)

#

u then also send this

#

yea ur just sending ur cds for fun

#

which is the unforch part of spec

#

gotta hold them to press with each other

lucid olive
#

Okay so

lofty depot
#

entered lunar

#

tragic

#

ur spamming a lot and or canceling casts a lot

#

u never have asp really

lucid olive
#

Opener: Wrath Wrath Starfire Moonfire Sunfire Treants CA Surge Surge (Surge if enough AP) Convoke CA Surge Surge -> Wrath to almost full AP, Surge to not overcap, refresh dots if they're about to run out, send 2 Starsurges in the 2 seconds between your Dryad dying and your CA ending, make sure you have enough AP for this and both dots are active on your target

0:30 ish use Force of Nature on a fresh Eclipse (can hold treants up to 15 seconds for this)

1:15 ish use Force of Nature on a fresh Eclipse (can hold treants up to 15 seconds for this)

2:00 make sure both your dots have more than 12 seconds on them before using cooldowns, then do CA Surge Surge Treants Convoke (in strict order) -> then same thing as in first CDs, make sure you have enough AP to send 2 Starsurges in the 2 second window between your Dryad dying and your CA ending

2:45 ish use Force of Nature on a fresh Eclipse (can hold treants up to 15 seconds for this)

3:30 ish use Force of Nature on a fresh Eclipse (can hold treants up to 15 seconds for this)

4:15/whenever the recharge on your 2nd CA charge is less than 10 seconds you do the exact same sequence you did in opener

#

@rocky crag

lofty depot
#

blud said he was going to sleep

#

see how im hovering with asp for movement

lucid olive
#

Yeah I'm in bed typing it out on my phone

#

Your cooldowns are 90% of your damage this season all the minmax shit outside of it does not matter

#

Bear Form every mechanic

#

Press regrowth like a mfer

lofty depot
#

i bear form no mechanics

#

heal my character

lucid olive
#

Just do the CD sequence right and you'll do well

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

not true

#

i bear formed mechanics when i was in hof

vagrant prawn
#

I wish @lofty depot was as good at gambling and giving me winning picks as he is at being mean to new boomkins

lofty depot
#

im in world rank 3k so i dont bear form mechanics

#

the cause and effect are reversed

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

i quit cuz i got a new job actual

#

need to find new guild for midnight prob

#

2am sucky

lucid olive
#

I didn't know being a full-time bitch was a job

lofty depot
#

that doesnt make sense, cuz its yours

lucid olive
#

Not wrong

rocky crag
craggy sonnet
#

Can you get a room, I'm trying to sleep here!

rocky crag
#

im so used to hitting berserk and stuff off gcd

lofty depot
#

ca is off gcd

lucid olive
#

The GCD of what

rocky crag
#

why the heck did it not press then 😭

lofty depot
#

ur fingy didnt press

#

idk

lucid olive
#

Idk brain lag perhaps

#

Arctic knows a thing or two about that

lofty depot
#

arctic gets r1's, there is no brainlag

rocky crag
#

wait an entire minute

lucid olive
#

CA is a charge cooldown

lofty depot
#

uhhh, u wait for convoke to finish

#

and u press ca

#

idk

lucid olive
#

Whenever you use CA you have 100 seconds to use your next charge

vagrant prawn
# lofty depot ?

I need to find a sharp to follow I haven’t won a bet in ages

lofty depot
#

oh u mean the 1m... uh u just wait for cds together

rocky crag
lofty depot
#

use ca with convoke

lucid olive
#

Since you use 2 charges of CA in opener you can wait 200 seconds before you have to use a charge

lofty depot
#

trees on cd (at the start of eclipse)
ca with trees
convoke with ca

#

is the general rule

#

now we dont use CA like we did in season 2

rocky crag
lofty depot
#

but the reasoning still makes sense

lofty depot
#

ezpz

rocky crag
#

on feral its just i send them when they're up as long as berserk and tf are together w/ convoke

lofty depot
#

falcons +3, bears +5.5

#

nfl ezpz

#

college been a wild ride

dense steeple
#

arctic sell me mythic mount

dense steeple
#

salhadaar crashing me out

lofty depot
#

so they misalign

#

but u still want to press them together

#

u dont "need" to press ur cd right away

#

esspecially CA which has a 100s charge time

lofty depot
potent cargo
#

doing so much cooking to ur body

#

being up so late

vagrant prawn
lofty depot
#

ive been getting 5-6 hours of sleep since i was 16

#

im built diffy

potent cargo
#

take the under on colorado theyre a natty level team if they jsut stopped making mistakes on god

lofty depot
#

i feel like nebraska wins by 14+ but i wouldnt ever tell someone to bet on my team lol

potent cargo
#

nebraska HC gonna leave

lofty depot
#

no hes not

potent cargo
#

penn state gonna offer him 50m

#

pce pce

lofty depot
#

no they wont lol

potent cargo
#

UNC

#

40m 4 yrs

lofty depot
#

gonna fire james franklin who cant win the big one

#

for a coach that hasnt beat a ranked opponent since 2008 or w.e.

#

yea surely

potent cargo
#

nebraska good, one of my mates played ball for them once upon a time

lucid olive
#

Ha ha yes sports fellas am I right

potent cargo
#

their ball team is shite tho

#

basketball*

dense steeple
lofty depot
#

penn state is having their bo pelani moment

lofty depot
vagrant prawn
#

Didn’t rhule graduate from penn state?

lofty depot
#

they have made the tourney a little bit tho

#

creighton is the bball school

potent cargo
#

if I went to school it would've been at boulder for sure man

lofty depot
#

met his wife there too

potent cargo
#

most beautiful place to be

vagrant prawn
#

Sounds like he’d be more happy in happy valley

lofty depot
#

but his wife has a business in nebraska now, he moved his parents to nebraska, his son is a sophmore at unl. his daughter is playing volelyball

#

and as he said "julie decides where we live"

vagrant prawn
#

Transfer portal works for volleyball too

lofty depot
#

shes like 12 dawg

vagrant prawn
#

Never too early to recruit

lofty depot
#

anyway, put it into perspect he was on the hot seat at carolina and didnt like it

#

imagine the hot seat in penn state

#

frost came to nebraksa and shit the bed

#

sometimes going to ur alma mater isnt the "grass is greener" that u think it is

vagrant prawn
#

There’s no hot seat at penn state Franklin didn’t win a big game for years

lofty depot
#

he was 10-2 and 9-3 for 5 seasons

#

they dont want 10-2 and 9-3

#

they want a natty

vagrant prawn
#

I just want my razorbacks to sign signetti or gruden

lofty depot
#

i think they go after cignetti, he'll likely say no.... marcus freeman maybe...... i think brian kelly could get a look

#

i dont see a reason for cig to leave indiana

#

gruden is a funny idea but doubt

#

lol buy out bill at unc

#

get him to win the natty

vagrant prawn
#

FUCK no I’m a patriots fan from mass I don’t want bill fucking up the hogs

lofty depot
#

think its a far better fit

#

the old ass penn boosters would love that pick

potent cargo
#

u see the transfer portal changes

#

for cfb

#

portal is open during playoffs or whatever

vagrant prawn
#

He’s been so bad at unc I think he just retires after this year goes into broadcasting

#

The portal is always open

lofty depot
#

theres like 7 commits that decommited

#

but i dont think the penn state players can portal out til a coach is announced

#

or a few days after...

vagrant prawn
#

Just because they aren’t in the official portal doesn’t mean they aren’t already looking though

lofty depot
#

sure

#

they still have to play

#

iowa being favored on penn state is crazy work

vital hound
#

i just have to build up the mental fortitude

potent cargo
#

UNC recruiting class

#

was just so cooked

lofty depot
#

rhule poaching penn state commits

#

lock in

delicate perch
vital hound
#

thoughts on my vault

delicate perch
#

yo same

#

I took it

vital hound
#

yea i think im taking it

#

over 2 tokens

#

LOL

delicate perch
#

ya ICANT

#

too much remixin

#

no regrets

lofty depot
# potent cargo UNC recruiting class

also, i found out today cuz twitter been slamming stats.... nebraska has 91 of their 125 players as sophmores or younger.... theyre the youngest team in the b1g

vital hound
delicate perch
#

okay too much

#

you're over double me now kekw

vital hound
#

not my screenshot gg

delicate perch
#

did he get reset

vital hound
#

git got idiot

#

nah its weird

#

the other two got a decrease

#

but buff is the same

delicate perch
#

PAUSE

#

classic blizz

vital hound
#

just got declined to a heroic pug

#

ama

rocky crag
#

i still need boots

#

and if you have dont have them sometimes they just wont inv u

vital hound
#

i have boots

rocky crag
#

is there something thats highly desirable that you dont have

vital hound
#

no

#

i just want renown

potent cargo
rocky crag
#

then i have no idea why theyd decline

potent cargo
#

how many of those guys are gonna jump ship

rocky crag
#

😭

vital hound
#

cause im a boomkin

rocky crag
#

i just know the other day i got declined and i legit messaged them like

lofty depot
rocky crag
#

why decline me

potent cargo
#

bc in the past u can trust u gonna have a good squad in a year or two

#

lmao you'd fkn hope so

#

spike the koolaid

#

gettem hooked

rocky crag
#

person was like 7/8 with green parses

#

(heroic)

potent cargo
#

until georgia offers em a skatpack or trackhawk and 300k

rocky crag
#

and they said it was because i didnt have boots and they want to roll

lofty depot
#

then we got some more 4 and 5 stars comign in in 2026 asd 2027

#

so hopefully the juniors then seniors and coach them up when they elave

potent cargo
#

Raiola is the qb at nebraska right

lofty depot
#

VGK 0-2 COMBACK IS SICK

lofty depot
potent cargo
#

golden knights aPES_Spit

lofty depot
#

his brother is class of 2027 i think

potent cargo
#

yer patrick ma'partment

lofty depot
#

we also have a kid named trea taylor coming

potent cargo
#

banger

lofty depot
#

idk who gets it

#

his brother dayton is a lefty

#

has good arm

#

but yea i dont really keep track of recruiting outside of like big twitter announcements :/

potent cargo
#

yer neither lol

#

some ppl are fiends

#

even when shit gets posted on twitter sometimes it can be weeks after it was unofficial but the streets knew

lofty depot
#

my boss talking about football in june/july im like dawg im afk til august

lofty depot
#

rat hockey >

potent cargo
#

Kraken gang (we are so ass)

#

Why couldn't the kraken win the cup pepehands

lofty depot
#

lol ur a new franchise that didnt get the same luxuries as vgk when gathering your team

#

i like the logo tho

#

shit cranks

potent cargo
#

look

#

we could be the sharks

#

and ye the logo is banger

#

they do variant logos for diff events and they all fucking slap

lofty depot
#

yea the sharks after thorton just aint it

#

then again, like why do we have 3 california hockey teams :/

#

wcyd

#

speaking of which

#

sparks +1.5 surely

potent cargo
#

run it

lofty depot
#

rangers played fine.... they just coudlnt score

#

under was free :/

potent cargo
#

bin the oilers i cba another season of them being good

lofty depot
#

they got 2 seasons to win the cup

potent cargo
#

more insufferable than when the lightning were hot

lofty depot
#

they could do it if florida doesnt get healthy

#

vgk could make the run back

#

i wanna see sens make the run

delicate perch
teal sphinx
#

@vital hound @delicate perch

#

on like

#

my worst pull of the night

vital hound
lofty depot
fleet chasm
#

ty ty

teal sphinx
lofty depot
#

always

delicate perch
teal sphinx
drifting nova
#

logoff

potent cargo
#

@lofty depot gruden new hc of titans real or real

#

i cant wait for the emails to get leaked bro

#

I reckon he's a sicko

#

but a sicko for ball not for women

lofty depot
#

is he really looking for a new coaching job?

#

ive been being trolled for like 2 years

potent cargo
#

idk but the content he's been putting out has been banger

lofty depot
#

well yea

#

i like his content so him going to be a coach... less fun

potent cargo
#

yer

#

i dont think he will end up being a hc ever again in the nfl unfortunately

lofty depot
#

i really like the coaches content some of them have been putting out

#

is big fun

potent cargo
#

all this drama shit he's been involved w/, surely the nfl will blackball him

#

only thing im certain of is miami hc is going to become eagles oc

#

at some point in the next year or two

#

eagles are cooked when they can't blast tush push

lofty depot
#

think its chiefs again

#

chiefs vs tampa

#

book it

#

pats have the bengals year?

potent cargo
#

bengals are fkn done bro

#

they should legit just start tanking atp

#

idk shit about the bengals if im honest but i feel like they have no money right

lofty depot
#

1 good year

#

then never again

potent cargo
#

oh ye fr

#

There's a lot of teams that look good for a SB chance this year im ngl

lofty depot
#

rip the r1s

#

were extending

hexed sparrow
#

Is there any guide/writeup for balance legion remix artifact traits / build? The wowhead guide has some pretty negative comments and the icyveins is breif.

lofty depot
#

going to the wowhead comment section isnt exactly somewhere u want to be

hexed sparrow
#

lol

delicate perch
#

equip good traits equip ilvl use demon until geared then swap

#

@ wowhead hire me for bis guides

hexed sparrow
#

Traits on gear from the wowhead guide do seem to match the "top 10" from raider.io but is everyone taking the top line of the artifact weapon chart? (Call of the forest / Souls of the caw / Highmountain fortitute / waking frenzy / dreamweaving?

#

oh you use the 2nd line?

delicate perch
#

ya demon does big dam for a while

lofty depot
#

uhh i thought it was set to the 2nd line

#

but idk

delicate perch
#

then you use call when geared

#

cause you just rip the damage amp and convoke and you do way more

lofty depot
#

u can likely use either or

#

and do any content u want

vital hound
#

is bonkers

#

i did 1b dps yesterday in 30 brh

hexed sparrow
#

im only just dinged 80 so far from geared. Ty both. will drop to demon line

#

lmao

delicate perch
hexed sparrow
#

Yeah i just seen people have done +60's

#

hilarious

lofty depot
#

remix isnt real content

#

"minmaxing" in fake game mode

quaint wave
#

I like the storm line because it's fun (:

delicate perch
#

wrong

drifting nova
vital hound
#

@delicate perch what gems and shit

#

do i want for forest

delicate perch
#

I just kept same it still does dam

vital hound
#

kk

delicate perch
#

need to try more keys but it defs slaps ST

vital hound
#

is ok

delicate perch
#

(obviously boomy only)

vital hound
#

ive swapped neck/ring from malic to the soul one

#

caw thingo

delicate perch
#

never seen that do damage KEKWHands

#

just there to proc frenzy

vital hound
#

also the thing i like about remix

#

is i go in raid and blast

#

and get these

delicate perch
#

HAHAH yea

#

I had a "bro how??" when people were like 30ilvls and 100 ranks above me

vital hound
#

is it

#

soul then convoke

delicate perch
#

ya you want the buff for convoke

vital hound
#

yea mint

#

tree > ca > soul > conv

delicate perch
#

need gamz to cook a apl

#

can probs soul before CA

vital hound
#

LOL

#

imagine

delicate perch
#

but pressing soul is a weird non hasted gcd

hexed sparrow
# vital hound double tap demon for aoe

Do you do a slight delay on the double tap for the fel spike? Feels like mine doesnt do much damage consistently. My gear does suck though i presumably its not great for single target.
Shame it doesnt send it flying towards your main target too rather than the 30yard explosion from the demon position since its not close. i guess 30yard is fairly big.

vital hound
#

i cast while gather

#

then tap when stacked

#

st if bursting insta tap

#

did tov with driney and he was just insta double tapping

#

on pull

delicate perch
#

whys that man still playing

vital hound
#

love of the game

hexed sparrow
#

gotcha. And does it matter how demon lines up with ca/convoke or can treat them seperately and just demon on cd?

vital hound
#

jsut cause you're low passion bud

delicate perch
#

real

#

I doubt any boomy things scale demon

#

bear lunar beam does though

hexed sparrow
#

I guess no harm in testing it. ta.

vital hound
#

ok tech

#

you can

#

remix time post convoke

#

and get two waking frenzy convokes

delicate perch
#

ya I've been messing with where to rip remix

vital hound
#

i think its like live

#

just insta

delicate perch
#

raid bosses don't last long enough to get a 2nd convoke so need to try it in keys

vital hound
#

maybe we should channel this energy into getting better at live

delicate perch
#

nope