balance

[viscid gale]

hm the talent for sunfore doesnt say that but i beleieve you

[bronze topaz]

it means you wont have any eclipse for 15 sec afterwards

[lofty depot]

Well it's a different button but no

[minor anchor]

guys another weird question, does starsurge have a cooldown?

on the alpha obviously

[digital berry]

Every 32 seconds you can enter eclipse for 15 seconds

[lofty depot]

Also, what's gonna be a fun question "why did u press eclipse then CA right after, why we waste eclipse"

Gonna love that

[viscid gale]

only for resto

[minor anchor]

ok

[lucid olive]

No

[lofty depot]

Baseline yes

Boomkin no

[tawdry quest]

With the 17s no-eclipse then, does that feel mega cooked coming from a system where eclipse uptime is mega important? Or does that just push us into a weird bursty class now where we pump hard for 15s then chill the fuck out for 15s lol

[lofty depot]

Well they're changing the uptime portion

[digital berry]

Ain’t nobody know how it feels buddy

[lofty depot]

U can't have 100% uptime so it's less worried about always being in eclipse

[digital berry]

We’re in the alpha stages of midnight ain’t nobody know nothing

[tacit oriole]

@tawdry quest It’s to early to tell bub

[lofty depot]

Some of us know

[tawdry quest]

^ this

[digital berry]

What do you know blub

[tacit oriole]

Gary prob got the alpha invite

[lofty depot]

Know u need to go to sleep lil gup

How does blud know my name 👀

[muted remnant]

That Elunes Challenge talent is gonna be interesting, guess you will only ever take Natures Grace as a newcomer to the spec

[royal zenith]

I wouldn';t assume you pump hard during eclipse

[lofty depot]

Elunes challenge gonna be some funny cook

[royal zenith]

you just have more control over when you want your damage to matter

[lofty depot]

Like being able to spam Starfire outside of eclipse

Maybe not pressing starfall ever

Imagine

[muted remnant]

Fun

[royal zenith]

for reference, atm CA is like a 15% dps increase

from what I remember was mentioned last

[fickle swift]

[lofty depot]

Sounds uhh right

[royal zenith]

I think BW on BM hunter is best compared

[drifting nova]

talent to turn starsurge into an aoe and sure

[tawdry quest]

Well, depending on how this eclipse cd and eclipse uptime actually pan out, itll be potentially quite weird to be out of any eclipse for 50% of the time

[drifting nova]

surely that means eclispe damage goes up.

[lucid olive]

Yes I was saying the same

[muted remnant]

I mean it was weird to cast 2 solar to get into lunar etc. and we managed

[lofty depot]

That's because u think it's bad, not cuz it's how it's suppose to be

[drifting nova]

shouldve been 3, correct

[lofty depot]

Ur under the assumption of because eclipse is so important now for uptime that u think it's shit to be outside of it

[royal zenith]

hmm

[lofty depot]

Where a lot of classes have 30-45s cds

Now boomkin has one

Well, another one :/

[muted remnant]

I mean Eclipses used to buff a lot but aren't they gonna be the weakest they've ever been now

[tawdry quest]

Oh for sure. Im sure tuning and numerically itll pan out fine. Itll still just be a big mental adjustment

[lucid olive]

No lol

[muted remnant]

Fair enough

[lucid olive]

They made new talents and changed some existing talents to tie to Eclipse

[royal zenith]

you just want to be in eclipse cause it's 'a' dps increase

[vital hound]

@lofty depot send alpha talent build

[lofty depot]

Tuning isn't something u react to in alpha, but lowering uptime generally means buffing the effect

[lucid olive]

So entering Eclipse procs a shitton of passive buffs

[royal zenith]

you dont have alpha sheep

stop lying!!

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/bGhdH.gif

[lofty depot]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/midnight-alpha-development-notes-378688

Big build

[vital hound]

it was a fucking meme arctic

[drifting nova]

rather rework the fundamental mechanics of the spec

[vital hound]

christ

[drifting nova]

instead of just put pulsar back in

[vital hound]

focus up

[drifting nova]

amazing work

[lofty depot]

Ope wrong link

Fick

Hmm

[sturdy pumice]

Well at least we can change targets faster without the moonfire/sunfire dmg amps. Thats a huge win for fluidity

[minor anchor]

The damage done to the balance spec by keeeping pulsar and removing streaking strike after BfA is still present to this day

[lofty depot]

They added streaking stars to the tree then nerfed it

[tacit oriole]

Treants is a cd bub 😂

[vital hound]

i like where this is starting

[royal zenith]

the prune commences

[vital hound]

ec solar is back

[muted remnant]

Was only a matter of time. First they came for Ancestral Guidance...

[vital hound]

dryad baseline

🫘

[muted remnant]

Though I did speak up, that was a nice CD

[slate zodiac]

i really liked renewal

[snow elm]

How will boomie heal itself

[lofty depot]

U have a passive one now

[snow elm]

Cast regrowth!?

[royal zenith]

This is under the impression you will need to heal yourself

there's a reason they are pruning abilities

defensive/heals

[slate zodiac]

now i have to press my instant regrowth and be annoyed when its not instant

[royal zenith]

ah you just want to rant

go for it

[slate zodiac]

i dont mind having a few buttons to press

boomie isnt bloated mio

imo

5 buttons a few cds and some def should be bare minimum for a class

[royal zenith]

I don't think it's very efficient to have buttons to press just for the sake of pressing buttons

and renewal is not a dps gcd

[livid prairie]

Oh? I've been using renewal instead of Starfire recently.

[slate zodiac]

its a "oh i fucked up" gcd

[royal zenith]

FIGURES

[livid prairie]

Somebody give me my opinion on Boomie rework.

[muted remnant]

Being alive as a DPS increase, big brain move

[royal zenith]

go bearform then

!

[muted remnant]

Oh god, do I not escape that sentence even here

[slate zodiac]

thats 2 gcd

[royal zenith]

[muted remnant]

Honestly Fluid Form into Frenzied Regen would be so goated

[royal zenith]

not being able to heal yourself will only be painful if you actually need to heal yourself

so Im curious how content will be

if you just need to bark or bearform on big hits

seems fine

[cloud citrus]

bro some of these changes are insane for boomy

if you play properly you get 25% haste on wrath and starfire

[radiant wyvern]

seems fine just from reading it, sun/moonfire are back to just being dots (mastery removed), that's all we needed to stop being ass at spread/cleave even if it will still play like shit right?

plus we fire bolts at everything when we press eclipse

[muted remnant]

Machine Gun Starfires

Ele Shaman could never

[radiant wyvern]

Elemental blast? never heard of it

[livid prairie]

Thank you! So reroll frost DK right?

[lofty depot]

"bolts" if u enter lunar

bolt if u enter solar

[slate zodiac]

so we get 4 bolts when we press cd on ST

[lofty depot]

surely

[slate zodiac]

nice

[lofty depot]

nearby enemies

cant wait to pull random shit

[radiant wyvern]

[minor anchor]

Stellar Flare my beloved

[royal zenith]

okay grillune what woke you up from your slumber

[minor anchor]

it didnt deserve this

[radiant wyvern]

Btw anyone take a look at the total eclipse talent? seems fucked that you have to hit a 20% to get 15% more damage no?

[royal zenith]

you been asleep* for 2 years?

Stellar Flare enjoyer???

[minor anchor]

ye i liked it

[royal zenith]

crazy

[chilly oriole]

its awful

[minor anchor]

and I wanted for it to get reworked

[tawdry quest]

if casting wrath/starfire change your eclipse, does that count as "activating" it every change? get some degenerate wrath/starfire altering to spam out bolts? lol

[chilly oriole]

glad they will take stellar flare away

[royal zenith]

a rework I could see yeah

[chilly oriole]

hope never comes back

[minor anchor]

to a Big dot for ST only

[radiant wyvern]

my understanding is it changes the button that enters your eclipse, but when you press it you are locked into that eclipse for 15 seconds

[minor anchor]

the problem is they didnt take it away, they kept it stucked to Orbital Strike, a perverse, twisted from of once great button

[lofty depot]

changing isnt activating just assume

[muted remnant]

Don't think so, also duration is gonna be the same still

[tawdry quest]

def reads as you can change mid eclipse by casting either wrath or starfire

[muted remnant]

Probably gonna have some bug where Starlord resets by accident because you switched eclipses

[chilly oriole]

from the text it seems that depending on what you are casting the eclipse changes

[minor anchor]

I read it as you always change the button

)

not the buff

once you apply it, its locked

[lucid olive]

You can't

[muted remnant]

:o

[hard mist]

It says "what mode will be entered"

[vital hound]

you probably wouldnt want to hot swap anyway

cause you'll have giga non eclipse uptime

[chilly oriole]

not unless adds spawn

[lucid olive]

I was saying when I read the Eclipse wording initially people would misunderstand that wording

Classic

[radiant wyvern]

or spam those bolts every time you'd swap HOOO BOY

[low ocean]

The button changes when you cast wrath/SF. once you press the button you’re in that eclipse.

Now with the 2 charge talent you can probably jig it to get both eclipses at the same time for 2 charges.

[vital hound]

🏛️

[lucid olive]

You can press Lunar while already in Solar

[digital berry]

People are misunderstanding because they are stupid not because the wording is bad let’s be for real

[lucid olive]

But you're overwriting duration on Eclipse which is a charge CD so it's probably not worth doing

[lucid olive]

Little bit column a, little bit column b

[vital hound]

pre sure this is false

[chilly oriole]

i hope the eclipse changes when you cast wrath or starfire now that it has a fixed duration/cd

[vital hound]

you cant double eclipse outside of the ca proc

[chilly oriole]

you can if it procs

with a talent

20% at 2 points

[royal zenith]

isn't that what sheep said

[minor anchor]

No

its not CA

its total eclipse

[lucid olive]

Yeah it's double eclipse without the haste buff from CA

[chilly oriole]

New Talent: Total Eclipse – Entering any Eclipse has a 10/20% chance to grant the benefits of both Lunar and Solar Eclipse.

[vital hound]

im definitely continuing to call that ca

[boreal brook]

Why are there no balance druid content creators? This is the YouTube results 😭

[royal zenith]

cause the spec has been shit for a while

wdym

what's there to talk about

[vital hound]

tettleton is an ele player

unfortunately

[lofty depot]

tettles stream

[minor anchor]

It might be just you and me

[digital berry]

Also these people are straight up rushing to put out meaningless videos to make a buck

[vital hound]

no way psybear would put out misinfo for clicks

[lofty depot]

izen will make a video

[vital hound]

[lofty depot]

dont worry

[royal zenith]

yeah cause that's how they make their living

who cares

[boreal brook]

Yeah, but everyone else had stuff prepped for when the blackout ended.

[lofty depot]

tettles woke up late

he was tiward

[vital hound]

tettles cooked terrible rng on the tankathon

timing

[boreal brook]

This looks like the opposite of rushed to me from Kalamazi.

Just noticing the class/spec discrepancies

[digital berry]

Can’t compare NOBODY to kalamazi

The dude is a beast

[lofty depot]

they ahve 3 specs

u want tettles to make 3 videos on boomkin?

[lucid olive]

Yes

[vital hound]

i want gamz video

[dense steeple]

We need Javier back

[royal zenith]

I just see opportunities...

[lofty depot]

go prep for moonkin monthly mother fuck

[dense steeple]

Hes the only one who can fix this

[royal zenith]

if I was a content creator..

[vital hound]

i opened gamz' season 3 video a few too many times

[boreal brook]

Yes. But 1 would do also. 😊

I'd watch all 3

[vital hound]

and now when i type youtube it autocorrects to his vid

[dense steeple]

I create content||only like 2 people ever visit my stream||

[lofty depot]

go unsub to his youtube so he notices

[royal zenith]

to be fair

Irn does have a point

if there's ever a window of opportunity

it is now

[digital berry]

Some specs that have been dog water for ages have very little in terms of content creation

Looking for elly shaman videos on YouTube was a pain in the ass

[muted remnant]

We need an UnderOwl to prop up

[dense steeple]

Maybe garyeet rises up

I hear hes been on the come up

[lofty depot]

??

[vital hound]

garyeet is still recovering from losing to sheeptwo

unforch

[digital berry]

Garyeet probably rerolling Mage again

Traitor

[lofty depot]

nah mage dead

they got no defensives

[vital hound]

garym is not it

[dense steeple]

Does anyone?

[vital hound]

🫗

[digital berry]

They got as many as balance Druids now

[lofty depot]

garym almost beat a boomkin 4 ilvls higher

garym is him

[dense steeple]

See what they did to shaman? Lmao

[vital hound]

bro how are my mages gonna live in raid if they cant rn with 15 defensives

[royal zenith]

its so good

prune all of it

[vital hound]

yea but he didnt

so delete character

[dense steeple]

1. Overcomplicate everything
   2.make it more stupid
   3.dumb it down so a vanilla playercould gold parse
   4.overcomplicate it again

The blizzard cycle

[radiant wyvern]

trial by fire, let them learn what it's like

[dense steeple]

Were currently in stage 3

[royal zenith]

yeah good for the last few years before retirement

this game has got to go..

[dense steeple]

Honestly free me

[lofty depot]

20 years of warcraft

[digital berry]

I wish ff14 didn’t suck ass

[lofty depot]

get ready for the next 20

[small sable]

so uh

how y'all feelin

[royal zenith]

pretty good

[dense steeple]

I love this game but ffs

[royal zenith]

hbu?

[small sable]

dunno, weird changes goin on

[digital berry]

Changes in the right direction

[small sable]

dunno why they cant just have eclipse be one thing

[vital hound]

[lofty depot]

because the one thing theyve had it been for 2 expansions is shit

[small sable]

atp just remove it and make a new core mechanic

[lofty depot]

they did

[small sable]

instead of changing it every one or two expacs

[vital hound]

bro didnt read the notes

chat is this based

[small sable]

i have been reading it for the last five or so mins tfym

[dense steeple]

Dont have to to know blizzard will fuck it up

[lofty depot]

start reading from the top again

might help

[teal lotus]

guys how back is boomkin based on these alpha changes

[lofty depot]

so back

[vital hound]

[royal zenith]

god I love these times

an alpha hits

[dense steeple]

Yeah me too

[royal zenith]

exp releases somewhere in february

[radiant wyvern]

think they're talking about blizzard changing how eclipse works so often and not the fact that you just press it now

[royal zenith]

"hey guys is boomie meta??"

[teal lotus]

were so back

[delicate perch]

Login

[vital hound]

unfortunately not

log off

we're bm hunter now

[boreal brook]

How does our rotation change? Are the sims correct?

[lofty depot]

"so often"

2 expansions ago

[royal zenith]

[dense steeple]

My president is a pdf who flounders in front of military, the most famous person in the country rn is a dead nazi, and blizzards incompetence is so astounding that theres no faith.

Good times

[royal zenith]

last meaningful change to eclipse was from Shadowlands to Dragonflight

[teal lotus]

idk if im more excited for new eclipse or for r druid changes

[royal zenith]

the rest were band-aids

[cloud citrus]

makes chicken very fresh though!

[vital hound]

yo where new apl

[royal zenith]

aka that's 3 years ago

[lofty depot]

por que son los dos

[delicate perch]

Yea I didn’t read anything just seen 5000 new messages in wowhead posts channel logging off

[lofty depot]

LOG ON

[vital hound]

kotg/ec was a pre meaningful change

[vital hound]

you need a 5th for fellowship

[royal zenith]

that's fair

[delicate perch]

There’s only 4 to a party

[royal zenith]

I dunno, I like change so I can't really comment

[vital hound]

🫗

[delicate perch]

Limit sheep 5th manning for us

[dense steeple]

DH

New spec auto meta

[vital hound]

[delicate perch]

[vital hound]

HA

[delicate perch]

[vital hound]

we're actually mentally ill

holy hecka

[royal zenith]

correct

[radiant wyvern]

Hey I'm just interpreting I don't know if it's true

I only pick up the game every other expansion anyways lol

[dense steeple]

Honestly just putit down for good

This shit is annoying

[livid prairie]

If you love boomkin set it free

[boreal shale]

So on a scale of we are cooking/we cooked, which are we so far?

[lofty depot]

cooking

[vital hound]

wanna become classic players 👉 👈

[dense steeple]

No i want to be taken out back and shot

[vital hound]

theres a joke there but i fear consequences

[maiden pasture]

btw

does ebon might increase dryad cap?

[vital hound]

at gamz/gas

[maiden pasture]

@normal pilot

[royal zenith]

ask again in like

5 months

when it will matter

[tribal vale]

does someone have a good vid of m soulbinder and araz boomie pov

[maiden pasture]

matters for people progging now

[royal zenith]

exactly...

[lofty depot]

it do be primary stat

[maiden pasture]

indeed

[lofty depot]

my stream

[maiden pasture]

require 2x augs to log

gg

[tribal vale]

ok ill check it out

[normal pilot]

smh my head who still asks tww questions

mid xpac is out

[livid prairie]

you guys still play wow?

[vital hound]

pre sure it does cause i was hitting 110m on salad with aug

vs 97 without on dimmy

[lofty depot]

110 👀

proof?

[vital hound]

hold the line caller

i lied 105

[dense steeple]

I have a friend who still has some spectral tigers in his bags

[vital hound]

coulda sworn i had a 110

[uncut roost]

Is he giving them away? 👀

[vital hound]

LESS OF A LIE

@lofty depot 108

[lofty depot]

not 110

[vital hound]

def increases cap tho @maiden pasture

[lofty depot]

fuggn liar

[vital hound]

that was like 100 ish not augmented

well idk if increases cap

but thats my feelycraft

[maiden pasture]

Aight so I will try convince my Dev to go aug for double aug

Got it

[vital hound]

does it stack

[maiden pasture]

Only 2x

[vital hound]

ah

roger

[maiden pasture]

They changed in aberrus when people were doing like

2 DK 17 aug raids

[vital hound]

ye i remember the add boss cheese

real ones remember the summon tech on raid testing

[maiden pasture]

[midnight bough]

What did ion say about addons the wowhead thing had way too many words for me

[celest rampart]

Has anyone had time to check out the midnight beta? Are boomkins cooking or cooked.

[lucid olive]

Alpha, and no not really

Only alpha tester we got is Tettles gg

[void jacinth]

he is brewmaster

[celest rampart]

Ahh fair play, look forward to his video

[dense steeple]

I wish, he wont give me one and he doesn't even play anymore 🙂

[royal zenith]

that's how value persists

ofc

[dense steeple]

Shit is worth like 60 mil a piece rn

[normal pilot]

alpha/beta doesn't really matter for how cooked you are

balance was dogshit in SL beta until literally the week of launch

then they like tripled convoke damage and everything was fine

[dense steeple]

And then tettles still told everyone to go kyrian

[vital hound]

boomkin was bustin during s3 ptr

then we got beans'd

[dry compass]

yeah thats cause they dont think things through tho

imagine making the dryad cap hp based

like what

[dense steeple]

Another dev had to come tell the boomkin dev he was a condiment

Thats all you need to know

[vital hound]

bro thinks there's more than one person

[lofty depot]

soma in the tc discord

proof?

[dry compass]

bro I don't think theres one person

i think the mage dev crams some boomkin changes in at 4:30pm on every third friday of the month before he fucks off for the week

[lofty depot]

make it the mage dev surely

[dry compass]

and then the hunter dev pretends to read over it monday morning before pushing it

[lofty depot]

thats badass

[vital hound]

[dense steeple]

i dont leak

[formal crest]

cap

[devout hazel]

so guys... eclipse is a cooldown now

[glossy jungle]

[dense steeple]

i cant do this anymore im getting off the internet today 🙂

[vital hound]

are you motw now

[glossy jungle]

[vital hound]

druid is so fkn back for the LADS

https://tenor.com/bnlyK.gif

[glossy jungle]

Im not moonkin unless its actually good. Never maining it again

[vital hound]

wth

wait

[delicate perch]

bro thinks theres even one person

[vital hound]

glyph back?

[delicate perch]

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/g6vcueaMW7p.gif

[glossy jungle]

moonkin 👉🏿

[delicate perch]

zorthdruid motw giver login

[glossy jungle]

love zorj

always entertaining key when zorj is tanking

[delicate perch]

[vital hound]

<honestly> its gonna be a big tier

things the guild can handle:
wife and kids ❌
action on the side ✅

[glossy jungle]

youre about to get the robo treatment

[delicate perch]

#freerobo

[glossy jungle]

[vital hound]

[maiden pasture]

[karmic tangle]

Eclipse as a cd? That doesn't sound great...

[lofty depot]

yea because eclipse right now is so great

[blazing thistle]

Sadly that is also true

[maiden pasture]

i like the idea

the idea that its this button that increases damage done vs something you just need to perma be in or ur just sad

sounds like better gameplay that current system for sure

[outer oracle]

i wana see how them Meteorites look like

[keen crescent]

Hi, what is the haste statistics cap in mm+
Thx 🙂

[drifting nova]

but isnt how eclipses work, thats the important part

[drifting nova]

no hate cap, always hate people in keys

[lofty depot]

go watch tettles stream

[lofty depot]

there isnt a cap

[outer oracle]

o pog thanks ill check it our right now

his vod right from 6 hours ago?

[vital hound]

ye did a couple hours

[outer oracle]

ty

[drifting nova]

no renewal wtf

[loud kettle]

too many buttons wcyd

but u guys can catweave for feral frenzy !

[drifting nova]

can remove pissskin

and keep renewal

no way hotw is kept

[loud kettle]

rake -> hotw ff -> rip -> wrath

[drifting nova]

but natures vigil is binned

🙈

[lofty depot]

yeeeeee buddy

u get starfall

[loud kettle]

yea one of us won

and its not u guys

[lofty depot]

ur starfall is 2m cd tho

the fuck is that

[loud kettle]

3min i think right

[dry compass]

wait when did meow get expert

times are a changing

[loud kettle]

a week ago yesterday

[lofty depot]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2580442522?t=7h29m9s

say 3m on class tree

is 2m there

[loud kettle]

heart of the wild spells look like they are off-gcd

so you can macro rake+heart of the wild

rake+hotw ff->rip->wrath

[pseudo merlin]

Wait

Is SUF no longer multi target?

Or is blizzardo just stupid

Phone pic inc

@lofty depot

[lofty depot]

i dont have alpha

[pseudo merlin]

Idiot

[drifting nova]

wanted moonfire to be the same range as sunfire instead they brought sunfire down, criminal

[lofty depot]

just assume wowheads tooltips are borke

[pseudo merlin]

The person who wrote this shits mind is borke

[signal temple]

How does one sim in Raidbots for dungeons?

[pseudo merlin]

1 target 5 min patchwwrrk

Or mdt

[signal temple]

Weird

[pseudo merlin]

Not that weird, other specs do it too

But kinda weird I guess yeah

[rough marten]

"Hey guys I wonder what comp is good and meta rn"

[signal temple]

Needs a Hunter

[rough marten]

yep thats what they're all waiting on probably

[lofty depot]

can play druid with said comp, but think its hunter

[drifting nova]

"I can get in I swear"

[lofty depot]

can play ele and replace rsham with rdru

[rough marten]

I just gotta lock in

[distant nexus]

#SWOLEKIN

[signal temple]

applies

declined

[drifting nova]

atleast it's a decline

and not a delist

or expire

saved 5mins

profit

[delicate perch]

log off keystones please

[signal temple]

I think my stats are off

[rough marten]

no I need io

[delicate perch]

wrong

[rough marten]

oh okay

[delicate perch]

[signal temple]

idk what's wrong, I have plenty of Mastery gems

[rough marten]

I know whats wrong, you have a lot of haste

[jaunty blaze]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[signal temple]

There's just so much, halp

[rough marten]

https://tenor.com/view/we-must-depart-with-haste-orang-meme-man-mememan-running-gif-11218819789812324945

[delicate perch]

consider taking off the rings/neck/trinket that give haste mayb

[hallow inlet]

what are you gearing for though? m+ or pure ST

[tiny tendon]

Trick question unless you’re doing 15+

[delicate perch]

log off all keystones

[merry ibex]

Is this a w for balance

I personally love the new changes

[lofty depot]

shrug, first signs say its good cuz they acknowledged problems

[delicate perch]

2nd sign is they ignored the problem and it's still there

(delete eclipse or ELSE)

[drifting nova]

dont forget 3rd, removed the good parts

[lofty depot]

mh thats curious

[signal temple]

But now I have less Int!

[delicate perch]

oh no..

[lofty depot]

choechoi was hacking

smh

[calm perch]

is voidcore + mythic staff bis?

having a hard time simming it

[wintry umbra]

Anyone know a good m loomithar boomy pov vid

[delicate perch]

what do you mean by hard time just sim it or

[delicate perch]

not sure many people good povs would be uploaded of boss #2

[lofty depot]

staff no

voidcore isnt bis either but shrug

[wintry umbra]

youre telling me none of the boomy theory crafters or content creators have killed loomithar

[vital hound]

[delicate perch]

I'm telling you no one cares about a boss thousands of people killed week 1

[wintry umbra]

thank you im sure ill kill it next pull with this advise soo helpful

[delicate perch]

based

upload your pov for future people

[warm quest]

What on earth are these patch notes

so many changes it is wild

[somber path]

well it is a new expac

[lofty depot]

some of us just arent labeled as content creators

[lofty depot]

new expansion dawg

[wintry umbra]

ik know but moreso suprised that the big pumper top parse ppl arent posting bragging rights vids

[lofty depot]

no one really cares about kill vods for r1 parses

ur not getting views for that

who wants to watch a blanace druid play anyway

[delicate perch]

I'd watch it (to downvote it)

[delicate perch]

OMG HE PRESSED WRATH

[digital berry]

what kind of gameplay is actually enticing to watch to be fair

let's be for real

[lofty depot]

RWF

[potent cargo]

watching max sit there

while he watches others

[steel charm]

Because of the casters yeah, outside of race most of these people are boring to watch which is why they have less viewers than kh speedrunners

[digital berry]

dude none of these wow streamers have any personality ngl

[steel charm]

The ones that did moved on to other things in content creation

[warm quest]

Quite the new xpac, really feels like some dramaaaaatic changes

[signal temple]

Lily drops, Lock doesn't want it but can't trade it because one of his trinkets is lower.
Story of my life.

[urban crescent]

I kinda fuck with new eclipses

[simple pebble]

welcome to boomie discord my friend

[digital berry]

Not everyone is here to give advice

[simple pebble]

clearly

[delicate perch]

lmfao how DARE everyone do what I want

[nova ocean]

Is spec tree available to see anywhere yet. The new one

[lofty depot]

wowhead prob

[wintry umbra]

theres a difference between not giving advice and being actively unhelpful

[delicate perch]

I mean you can search youtube for an uploaded pov

[potent cargo]

DO NOT BE HELPFUL SCHIZOPOST ONLY

[delicate perch]

why do you expect strangers to do your research

[nova ocean]

Holy shit we have a lot of nodes now

[potent cargo]

find pov on youtube, use lorggs for cd timing and when to press shit

ggez thats all the prep u need

game plays itself

[digital berry]

yes, people are allowed to be unhelpful

[delicate perch]

specially boomkin and specially on aa 2nd boss

[elder remnant]

Are we dooming or celebrating

I need to know how I’m supposed to feel and think

[digital berry]

this is not nobodys personal help center, it's just people helping others when they feel like it and answering questions

[steel cedar]

why

[elder remnant]

Still as insufferable as ever I see

[digital berry]

i thought i blocked you

[elder remnant]

[lofty depot]

We're pogging

[elder remnant]

That sounds oddly positive for this discord

[lofty depot]

Yea lock in

[elder remnant]

Spreading misinformation yet again arctic?

[lofty depot]

Fotm rerollers talking shit?

[nova ocean]

I like the changes so far, still want them to make ca/incarn a more interesting cd

[clever vigil]

u lock in

[lofty depot]

R U LOCKED IN

[warm quest]

I mean alot of great stuff here in these notes, reverted the mastery. The talent that lets us deal starfall damage 100% faster for actually being able to dps quick dying raid mobs

[lofty depot]

Just note the main changes are mastery and eclipse

Those 2 things alone, make it better

[warm quest]

My only issue is they want us to move away from hard casting spells to enter eclipse but the new eclipse is still gonna pick the eclipse based on your last cast

meaning if it isnt the one you want you still have to do a hard cast before you eclipse

[elder remnant]

I’m a healer main for sure

[lofty depot]

well on st, ur casting wrath only

[nova ocean]

Ya just cast the right things lol

[warm quest]

I didnt think about that I guess your right

[lofty depot]

so then the only other time ud be casting say lunar is on araz and then ur gonna have to justify eclipse lasting 30 second long, starfiring for say 3-5 seconds then having 20-25s of casting starfire on st

and u would then have to see if thats worth it

[nova ocean]

I do think the 2 charges thing should be baked in not a talent

[clever vigil]

IM LOCKED

[dense steeple]

My puppy, freshly neutered, high as a kite: just caught a mole?

[lofty depot]

hm

[dense steeple]

Like he punched it so hard the mole flipped over on its back and just screamed into the void for like 45 seconds I couldve just picked it up

[dusty bluff]

Well isn’t it that eclipse lasts 15s, on a 30s CD? Or did I read that wrong?

[leaden birch]

dwilkz has a good one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peoW4n7pAWE

[wintry umbra]

ty found that one aswell (before i even asked in here, asked mostly if there was one recomended that yt's search didnt show or was a twitch vod)

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/wideboink-cat-boink-cat-boink-gif-4293569947606972768

[cloud lion]

How u guys use cds on dimensius 2 on pull than 1 before flying or u hold for 1st platform to use double?

[lofty depot]

was just an example

[lofty depot]

depends on ur kill time

u could double ca platform 1 instead

might have to eventually use a 2m then hold the whole way

[shell lily]

How are top Mythic Saladbar balance logs casting 2x convoke around the 4 min mark?

i seem to always have around 20-25 seconds left on my 2nd charge still when we lust

[loud kettle]

potent enchantments probably

idk

[tight elk]

all right, made it to a 57 parse on soul hunters

[lofty depot]

im sure u mean CA

but yea potent

[shell lily]

correct, my mistake

[loud kettle]

im built different

[leaden birch]

Whats potent enchantments

Is that a talent or smth

[digital berry]

yeah

[loud kettle]

hero talent

reduces ca cd by 10s

[shell lily]

ahhh interesting

[shell lily]

ok tyvm

im a casual balance enjoyer so am scrub

[loud kettle]

im a feral druid

[leaden birch]

I run 1 talent loadout

I have no idea what talents do

[livid zephyr]

Yall think they rework CA? Right now on Wowhead it's still 15 seconds of both eclipses, which looks even more underwhelming than before with the new eclipse system.

[shell lily]

Wait has Potent Enhancements been the meta for most fights this tier?

[tight elk]

averaging a 42.6 parse on bosses where I DON'T die.

[lofty depot]

no its based on fight time

[delicate perch]

nope just perma use it

[digital berry]

we do use it on every fight at thios point no

[lyric kettle]

Thanks

Will do!!!

[delicate perch]

the lion does not concern himself with fight timers

[lyric kettle]

I just press buttons

[hollow mist]

proud of you warky

[snow elm]

how many extra talent points do you get in midnight?

[digital berry]

Cyclone tech definitely feels like cheating goddamn

[elder remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1315347653038571570.webp?size=80&animated=true

[warm briar]

3 in the class tree, an extra row of hero talents and 4 points for spec tree that can be put in apex talents or fill out more of the regular spec tree

[snow elm]

the apex options i see are the 3 nodes on the side and they are all optional?

[thorn dove]

Could I have someone who knows boomy take a peak at my logs? I main bear and pretty much only do m+, but my friends guild needed a druid for their mythic this week so I came in

(Plexus, Forge, fract)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7jdt8qnTM4pfDyBG?fight=4&type=damage-done&source=33

I know one mistake im making is sometimes I hit wrath too many times out of eclipse and it sends me into lunar eclipse.

[warm briar]

Yeah they are but will depend on tuning whether they’re taken or not

Nothing is really known at this point because alpha hasn’t officially started and all tuning is obviously far from done

[timber raft]

guys what we thinkin about the alpha midnight changes

seems weird im just reading it

[warm briar]

Haven’t seen anyone testing boomy in the internal alpha so no comment yet

[dreamy ingot]

what is KOTG?

[lofty depot]

theyre optional but it from the looks they want u to take them

[lucid olive]

Which apex talent you take isn't optional

Look at it as a 4 point node

But you can choose not to spend points on them at all, which would depend on tuning and execution of the talents

From what I've seen, the Solar Bolt talent seems to fire on random target you're in combat with, and I can see that being annoying on a boss with immune adds like a Forgeweaver or Mug'Zee type fight so it might be worth skipping out on for other another talent if that's the case

[lucid olive]

Keeper of the Grove

[dreamy ingot]

ty, im so stupid

[lucid olive]

Hi so stupid, I'm Gamz

[lofty depot]

i meant taking the point itself

but yea

[lofty depot]

the lunar bolts were doing the same right

and theyre reduced beyond 5 :/

[twin lotus]

i LOVE spells auto-targeting immune targets

[timber raft]

what do we think about the eclipse change

[merry ibex]

Is running double balance druid on +12's annoying? Or does it still work out?

[timber raft]

depends on the dungeon if theres alot of interrupts you might get rekt lo

lol

[lofty depot]

probably not smart but meh

[timber raft]

fuck im a blaster mcgee mc parser mcormick

11 FG

i did like 30mill on the first pull or some shit lol

[potent cargo]

wild gamer brother ur nuts

[abstract oriole]

is there any known issue with on use macros not working with whirling stars?

[dry coral]

The eclipse change ewww

[lucid olive]

sorry I think you hit the E key by mistake

cause eclipse change is wwwwww

[jaunty blaze]

Big w

W actually

[dry coral]

Need to reload ur game everytime u change between whirling and orbital strike

[timber raft]

ok so mixed takes about the eclipse

i see

[lucid olive]

yes

the people who just read the tooltip are negative

[abstract oriole]

I had to relog for it to work. that's absurd!

[lucid olive]

its worked like that ever since Pulsar was removed at the end of Dragonflight

been a constant reported bug but oh well

[delicate perch]

they're working on more important issues (player housing)

[jaunty blaze]

The real content

[soft jungle]

How the new moonkin form feels

[dry coral]

/reload

[lucid olive]

Reload doesn't work

Need to fully log out and in

[livid jay]

which keybinds are u guys putting eclipses on

i dont have any!!

ctrl wrath and ctrl starfire maybe xD

[lucid olive]

My stellar flare keybind

[livid jay]

true that merged into my woe keybind and thats getting removed

but thats T

no bueno

[lucid olive]

My WoE keybind is my Treants keybind

Since they're a choice node

[livid jay]

fuck same

[lucid olive]

Well, not anymore so

[lofty depot]

yea eclispe is either renewal or flare

[livid jay]

we need two no?

(i only skimmed through patchnotes)

[lofty depot]

its the same button

[lucid olive]

It's one button, the button changes depending on your previously cast builder

[livid jay]

oh

[lucid olive]

It defaults to Solar Eclipse I think, at least the button was Solar when Tettles first made alpha character before he ever cast a spell

No clue how it works when zoning into m+ or pulling raid boss if it resets

[livid jay]

man i was planning to not raid next tier and take a step back but this gets me a bit excited

[lucid olive]

You can finally get rid of that terrible eclipse tracker in your UI

[livid jay]

there has never been a better eclipse tracker

[lofty depot]

gotta prep the eclipse to lunar before key

[livid jay]

but we still need an eclipsetracker wdym?

[lucid olive]

There's surely some of the eclipse passives that don't reset on key so you drop a dummy to proc it as key starts

[lofty depot]

stack the eclipse deck

[serene bolt]

moin chickens

quick question

[livid jay]

bro said moin

[serene bolt]

did u finally get a real defensive and bear form is shot in the head

[serene bolt]

[lucid olive]

Oh god..

[dim solar]

Eclipse being on gcd seems kinda troll

[lucid olive]

Currently it's on 2 GCDs

[lofty depot]

this could also be a pre eclipse for key

[lucid olive]

Think they last only 15 seconds

[lofty depot]

then get the "your next starfire is instant and fiorst 3 starfalls increase

oh really :/

[lucid olive]

Yeah lasts as long as an Eclipse does

Also wouldn't be surprised if Eclipse cd doesnt reset on boss wipe

[lofty depot]

rip

[livid jay]

cant wait to drop moonfire in keys

or exclusively have trees put them out

[jade flume]

Is bamkin good yet

[lofty depot]

in 5 months prob

[jade flume]

Did u get alpha arctic

Surely they gave it to the bamkin

[lofty depot]

think its closed still?

only cool people

and if sune or gamz dont ahve it... i sure as shit dont have it

[livid jay]

not enough clout

[jade flume]

Id vote for u first on g

[lucid olive]

I take that personal

[lucid olive]

Bunch of feral players with it, meanwhile all we got is Tettles gg

[lofty depot]

watch us not take any of the dot talents

then they get mad cuz theyre simming shit

and buff our dots :/

[pallid bay]

im not important..

[vital hound]

its just creators right

[pallid bay]

only colored names..

[lofty depot]

yea huh

[pallid bay]

nepo babies

[lucid olive]

The closed one yes

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/exKvf4PidlS.gif

[livid jay]

wrong i dont have it

[lucid olive]

The one dropping tonight is not

[pallid bay]

GamzSoftware

[lucid olive]

Wtf

[livid jay]

and my raid streams have 3 viewers so

(1 is me)

[lucid olive]

Arctic streamed raid to 8 viewers earlier

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/bbAoy.gif

[livid jay]

i was popping off last raid and had 9 for some reason

arctic washed

[lucid olive]

I got raided by Krona on dimensius and then nobody said anything..

70 people raiding my stream but no chat interaction gg

Washed

[lofty depot]

big content

he ran into a lazer cuz its 2am

fuggn idiot

[pallid bay]

did u interact though

[livid jay]

maybe they know their moonkin alpha build is the most bugged thing ever and they dont want to show it

[round field]

The usual

[livid jay]

eclipse probably proccing pulsars or some shit

[quiet drift]

mr streamer be more funny

give reaction

https://tenor.com/view/baby-daddy-funny-tv-series-comedy-kid-gif-16383199

[livid jay]

just blast music full volume

at some point someone will type either what is this shit music or damn i really like your music

[delicate perch]

Yeah chingers got it

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lies-liar-bullshit-so-that-was-gif-15334130

[vital hound]

🐼

[quiet drift]

I remember some dude came flaming my music back in Sepulcher

Left saying he kinda gets it

The human condition...

[livid jay]

xD

[lucid olive]

Yes!!!

[sudden flame]

Whats the tldr are you or i havent been following

with alpha changes

[smoky remnant]

where pin comment

about midnight

[lucid olive]

i don't think there should be a pin yet

whats supposed to be in there

[smoky remnant]

yay or nay

[lucid olive]

"yo spec got changed
wowhead link"

[limpid grotto]

balance has yet to be deleted from midnight pre patch, great deal

[smoky remnant]

where pin

[lucid olive]

it hasnt even been 24 hours since embargo lifted

form your own opinion

[smoky remnant]

i am unable to

[lucid olive]

unfortunate

[smoky remnant]

quite

i dont parse high enough to have an opinion

[round field]

Potentially but also potentially

Dont care

Bloodtalons is dead i go back cat

[sudden flame]

[round field]

Then again

[sudden flame]

new compendium guide

[round field]

Why didnt coiled get shot in the head

[sudden flame]

i have litteraly no clue

[round field]

I love how they say

[sudden flame]

i was like 110% sure it was gone

[round field]

We want to make specs more intuitive

And they leave the most unintuitive talent alone

[sudden flame]

real and true

[pallid bay]

Uuuh

I think it could be good

[jade flume]

Did u get alpha oi

U seem like an alpha getter

[lucid olive]

our only tester is tettles

[jade flume]

Hes ele shaman/brew monk

Its joever

[lucid olive]

he was on alpha last night yapping about addons for 2 hours...

entered eclipse once..

[round field]

[meager citrus]

or as balance m+ focused?

[lucid olive]

the one with haste prob better for m+

[meager citrus]

left is mythic and right is hc

[round field]

Idk sim it

[delicate perch]

very tough choice there (you could sim it or use brain both will give same result probs)

[pallid bay]

no

im trying..

[pallid bay]

but i also think the spec is like

[lucid olive]

dm a dev

[pallid bay]

moving in opposite direction of the addon changes

[lucid olive]

yeah it's funny

it's not like moonkin in TWW has been reliant on weakauras or addons outside of debuff tracking on nameplates

so it wasn't hit as hard on the "reducing complexity" spectrum as a lot of other specs

but i have a feeling that Eclipse planning on encounters is where most of the current complexity is going to come now

which is not a bad thing

[fossil hemlock]

Bunch of things about this rework I'm excited to have a closer look at, bunch of things I'm like "eh I guess we'll see"

[jade flume]

At a first glance they are pruning too much shit

If they want to reduce amount of abilities then they need to make rotations more involved

[lucid olive]

their end game is WoW on console

[jade flume]

Imo

[lucid olive]

so keep that in mind

[delicate perch]

wow on iphone when?

[lucid olive]

I can't wait to fire up the xbox one and lay on my couch in my boxers and show up to raid wearing one of these using the one button rotation

with evanescence and breaking benjamin blaring from my speakers with no noise suppression on

[meager citrus]

cant doesnt 'support the spec'

[lucid olive]

dont sim dungeon slice

[meager citrus]

patch doesnt work either

[lucid olive]

then youre doing something wrong

[round field]

Balance banned from raidbots gg

[loud kettle]

raidbots.com/reset

[warm valley]

Those mastery changes in Midnight lookin cozy

[vital hound]

you never interact with me

so i dont believe you

[lucid olive]

youre literally never in my chat

[vital hound]

i mean DMs

theres no way

this doesnt warrant

a response

[lucid olive]

idk wtf sxc is

[vital hound]

sexy

[lucid olive]

what the

[vital hound]

i wanted your dimensius note

lol

[lucid olive]

like personal note or

[loud kettle]

ur never in my chat...

[lucid olive]

do you stream?

[vital hound]

ya your reminders

[loud kettle]

sometimes...

[lucid olive]

okay lol give me a minute

[vital hound]

for the planets and shit

[lucid olive]

my reminders are only barkskin and p3 shit

i ignored most of the p3 shit tbh

after like 40 pulls in p3 it became very stale really fast

[vital hound]

is the like

move to left planet

liquid

[lucid olive]

yes

but the export works for mrt as well i think

[pallid bay]

[vital hound]

it was specifically like this

that i was looking for

[lucid olive]

yeah thats timelinereminders

our warlock made that

and he just shared it so all the ranged took it

and i changed some minor stuff for my marker

[meager citrus]

got it to work and it says to replace 'durable information securing container' with a normal waiste (higher ilvl) and also mythic ring above hc even though it doesnt have haste

[lucid olive]

having to go in star 4 with the tanks is actually criminal btw

[meager citrus]

but then again this is for ST not M+ so still bugging me

[lucid olive]

what belt power are you simming

[meager citrus]

belt power?

[vital hound]

yea what you sent

is money

ty

[hollow mist]

🔥

[lucid olive]

i'm old enough to remember raiding 25 man on skype

those were the good days

[glass socket]

Hi guys, I raided heroic for the first time and the DPS was terrible, could you tell me what the right % of the stats are?

[meager citrus]

lol welcome to the life

[glass socket]

Then is not stat problem? Lel

[meager citrus]

roll hunter

[glass socket]

I had main hunter but try to play balance

In m+ is not so bad

[vestal bone]

check the pins for the compendium. it'll give you tons of info

[glass socket]

What is?

[vestal bone]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium

[round field]

Of course its not a stat problem

Never is

People do bad dmg because theyre bad

Not because of stats

[jade flume]

You wouldnt say that at lan buddy

[lucid olive]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/midnight-alpha-development-notes-378688

[round field]

Yea i would

[jade flume]

[vital hound]

[lucid olive]

wtf the guy deleted his question asking for the balance changes...

it was wind tunnel guy..

[vital hound]

[glass socket]

Then is my problem not other, ok, retry

[indigo barn]

Wtf the midnight changes actually don't look terrible. I didn't believe they would finally get rid of eclipses as maintenance buffs

[round field]

Spec still kinda boring tho

[indigo barn]

They are making them all boring its ok

[round field]

Same shit except you spend 50% less time in eclipse

Yay change

[indigo barn]

My old boomer hands welcome less apm rotations

[round field]

And ig mastery change is chill

[lucid olive]

i don't mind spending time outside of eclipse not being punishing

[round field]

I mean i dont either

Its just like

[fossil hemlock]

The idea that out of eclipse is time spent doing the boring maintenance/prep stuff so you can plan and blast during eclipse sounds like it could be good

[round field]

Big nothingburger

[lucid olive]

and also not being fucked by random "oh shit this mechanic forces me to move right as my eclipse ran out"

[round field]

Its still the same boring uninteractive rotation

Except you click a button to enter eclipse

[lucid olive]

yeah

unless they proc a Starweaver build

[jade flume]

Bamkin is kinda cool right now tho or

Blasts big burst

[lucid olive]

Cosmic Rapdiity increases Shooting Stars frequency now

[round field]

Ok tier is now removed

What now