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craggy sonnet
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and i guess its a lot to try to incorporate for an onetime offspec night

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but you really have to play your CA windows around the tier set well

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or you are gonna do beans dmg

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that entails ripping a double CA on pull, single CA ~2min and another double CA a bit after 4min

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explains how to sequence them

jolly dock
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okay in testing i've kinda been ripping CA on cd which im learning should not be done but should you always rip force on cd or 15 secs after?

craggy sonnet
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on cd is ok .. start of eclipse while not overcapping ap is better

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so first like 3s of eclipse if its ready, else hold it til next eclipse

jolly dock
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okay that helps a lot ty

vagrant prawn
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I think this may be the coldest I’ve ever been betting in my entire life. I need FSU to cover so bad

lofty depot
bright yarrow
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guys how do you play first pull in gambit?

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i dunno i cant dot everyone and im dealing dog shit dmg tehre

lofty depot
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press some moonfires, press a sunfire or 2 if u miss some. slam

bright yarrow
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so i dont try to moonfire many targets

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i mean its impossible

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can i claim at blizzard that i want to have moonfire on all targets?

lucid olive
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yeah leave a ticket for customer support

craggy sonnet
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but also that pull is stupid

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because it explodes

exotic perch
lofty depot
lofty depot
obsidian jetty
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I play similarly to how I play it in raid. With the exception of starfire and starfalls. Mostly do double CD, single CD, double CD, single. Sometimes I will stall double CD for bosses by either holding, or sending a single if boss is in 2m

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I run these talents

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orbit breaker is flex point, EG is as well, but it feels too good to drop to me. Full feelycraft

boreal brook
copper gate
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!araz

lofty depot
vagrant prawn
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@lofty depot FSU getting rolled

lofty depot
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wild turnover on goal line

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boy tony white better figure it the fric out

lofty depot
lofty depot
cobalt harbor
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hey quys. i have a quick question. a friend of mine started playing balance druid. and we tried to make a macro for self healing like = go in bear form then frenzied regeneration. we tried do make a one click macro for that but dont get it working^^ can anyone help out pls 🙂

lofty depot
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well u cant 1 click because its 2 gcds

vagrant prawn
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I might never make a bet again

lofty depot
vagrant prawn
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Was crazy imagine if there was a flag

lofty depot
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gotta live for that

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player gotta be dead

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KEKW nebraska people trolling the nebraska transfer

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love that shit

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someone trolled him last week then he commented after the michigan loss

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thats funny 🙂

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anyway

vagrant cove
# bright yarrow so i dont try to moonfire many targets

Im pretty sure on the compendium it tells you to only moonfire targets that will live 6+ seconds or something like that. So you always moonfire the high HP targets in that pull, sunfire and then blast and you pretty much never moonfire the tiny ads as they'll pop in half a second

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Would be nice if they made moonfire function the same way as sunfire, cast it once and it aoe applies the dot to everyone around it

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Maybe a tier set concept for midnight lol

lofty depot
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ew

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tier set better make moonfire do like 5x the damage or some shit

dense steeple
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a tier bonus to just convert moonfire into a mass aoe button would ruin the spec

eager raft
lofty depot
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so like turn brain on

eager raft
lofty depot
eager raft
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right so literally just theoretically replace the sunfire part with "moonfire now hits all targets in a 5yd radius"

lofty depot
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and then add the damage part yes

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as stated

eager raft
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the damage part is already there

lofty depot
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....... hunter brain he didnt say that

eager raft
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nah its crazy you actually have yourself convinced youre smart

lofty depot
eager raft
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well are u

lofty depot
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waiting for guild to die again

eager raft
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u guys are doing well this tier

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dont die

lofty depot
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uhhhhh, it kinda weird

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it feels like we could be doing better but too many monkeys

potent cargo
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you do this at an nfl game someone is gettin shot on god

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hope they stole the goal post

muted citrus
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hangy out

hollow mist
drifting nova
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dew it

gaunt thunder
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Hello!

I recently picked up Balance Druid and have been having a lot of fun in keys so far! I do have a few questions though (apologies if they’re very basic or already answered somewhere, I might have just missed them).

  1. Incarnation usage
    How do you usually handle your second Incarnation? Right now, if it’s a big pull (like the first pull in Flood) and we have BL, I’ll pop both back-to-back. After that, I try to hold the second one until Fury of Elune is back, but should I also wait for Warrior of Elune?

  2. Pull setup
    What’s your approach at the start of a pull? For example, in Arakara, City of Echoes, if our tank tags everything as we go down the stairs, I can easily Moonfire while moving. But yesterday we pugged, and the tanks didn’t touch anything on the way. On the first pull I died after dotting, and on the second I just held back, only to end up spending a ton of GCDs Moonfiring once everything was grouped up. What’s the best way to handle this?

  3. Target switching
    When is it best to swap and how do you handle it? For instance, on the first bosses of Ecodome and Arakara, I usually DoT the adds, but they die so quickly that it feels wasted. Should I just ignore them and stay on the boss? Is it ever worth dropping a Starfall there, or is single-target damage the better play?

Thanks a lot for any advice! 🙂

drifting nova
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back to back incarn? oh no

delicate perch
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you defs can on flood first pull, nowhere else really this season

if stuff needs to die and it's not dying you swap, that's more of a comp/how bad others are generally

pug tanks are animals just peep details and see if they're doing damage then rip moonfires

craggy sonnet
drifting nova
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yes

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and then you have nothing for 1st boss

analog condor
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why was celestial alignment modfied from dragonflight , that aditional talent to store energy until 600 or 500 i dont remember exactly, and you would have paired it with celestial alignment and fury of elune, so you would have what elemenatal shaman does now with tier set 2 piece?

drifting nova
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moreso the 2nd part

analog condor
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ye taht they now made ele shaman what drudi was in df

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like wtf

drifting nova
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because reasons ??

analog condor
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well what were those

drifting nova
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thats the fun part

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there were none

analog condor
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like remove synergy, put it to other class, now instead we have 2 stacks of celestial alignment

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i played since df and that starweaver was fun thing

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both gone

agile nimbus
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any other buffs comming? cause balance is still garbage

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maybe we should threaten to close class discord

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heard that works

potent cargo
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yeah gl with that

gaunt thunder
delicate perch
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generally yea you can spread them out, longer pulls like first of flood is fine to double send

ya you kinda have to dot early as possible, can't really afford to wait 10s then spend 5s dotting KEKWHands

potent cargo
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there will be pulls where tanks are body pulling

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there will be pulls where tanks are getting aggro as they move around

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ara kara first pull is the biggest noob bait and always gets ppl killed if u can't just sit on ur hands for 2 sec

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if u rly wanna dot then just keep up with the tank and do shit like typhoon or meld when things come near u

delicate perch
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ya I feel like ara you just run with tank

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the first like 10s are shitter mobs anyway

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(I still dot em get aggro you rat tank)

gaunt thunder
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Ah okay, thank you! 🙂

desert imp
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what do you guys feel like is better comp in M+ with a boomie? i feel really comfortable running with Pali tanks due to Sac and LoH etc when needed. I am stepping into 17s so thinking Pali tank, Sham heals, DK and DH

craggy sonnet
jade flume
delicate perch
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boomkin saved

jade flume
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Cap

wild dune
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cavey diff

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buff bamkin tho

delicate perch
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just base it off dmg and dw that my 99 is a warlock 12

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we don't compete with good classes that's unfair

void jacinth
jade flume
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Druid atm

void jacinth
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Resto?

jade flume
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Yeah, sometimes bamkin when we dont need 4 healers

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Played bamkin/feral on nk

delicate perch
jade flume
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Only been playing it for 2

potent cargo
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ah

delicate perch
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he meant decades

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easy to confuse them

potent cargo
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BFA had streaking stars and horrendous gameplay and SL was dogshit spec carried by physical dmg boosting our surviability to start with, and then venthyr covering the abomination that was our spec

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boomy been down bad for a while

vernal goblet
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hey how do u sim AOE and ST on Balance?

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for M+

normal pilot
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check faq in compendium in pins

copper gate
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I just realized I’m meant to delay a CA for the second convoke cast 😵‍💫

jade flume
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And the third one too

dense steeple
lofty depot
grim hull
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how does the 2p for kotg work? does it just copy what i do (if i starfall, she starfalls and vica versa with surge) or does it just keep starfall up and surge otherwise or something different

craggy sonnet
grim hull
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thank you

storm python
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seems like i have forgotten how to make my char "glow" so its easier to see. anyone know where this setting is?

lofty depot
prime ingot
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ok team I have a question, if you equipped nexus king's command and only ever healed yourself would it leave the debuff on the other 4 party members perpetually and keep applying to you every 30 seconds?

lofty depot
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why would a balance druid know that

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hmm

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@craggy sonnet any idea mr idea man

prime ingot
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tettles told me that nkc was highest simming balance trinket

lofty depot
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hes an ele shaman playing monk tank now, what he know :/

prime ingot
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this tech could ostensibly work for ele too if the trinket is good for them

buoyant smelt
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wondering what the haste soft cap is for boomie in mop , from wowhead :
Haste soft cap (24.22%): This increases the rate at which we cast spells. This also cause us to move more quickly between each Eclipse state, which also causes higher uptime of Nature's Grace. This scales off itself, making Haste very strong for us. Once we reach the soft cap, our Global Cooldown (GCD) goes to 1s and can be reduced no further, after which Haste becomes less desirable than Critical Strike. For a level 85, that is 3101 Haste, and at level 90, it is 10296 Haste.

Is the 24.22% including the 5% boomkin haste buff?
so shooting for 19.22% in normal human form, in which case it wouldnt actually be 10.2k haste per wowhead?

lofty depot
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but usually buffs dont matter, its the rating u care about

craggy sonnet
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Should work for ele as well

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But it should not be the best trinket

prime ingot
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how big of a self heal can you proc as moonkin with regrowth?

craggy sonnet
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For ele

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Idk

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Why is that relevant?

prime ingot
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imagine every 30 seconds you put a fatass absorb on yourself

craggy sonnet
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Well have you tried healing yourself as boomie?

prime ingot
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don't have the trinket

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but I guess I don't need it for that

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but also I don't know if moonkins have any good tech for self healing

craggy sonnet
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You heal for beans.
Ofc it's better than nothing.
I don't think there is any tech

prime ingot
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did they get rid of the shit where you got like a juiced regrowth every once in a while?

craggy sonnet
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The trinket is also only competitive while actually equipped for kotg because the tier set scales with main stat

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It's only an instant regrowth for kotg

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its actually best to just use it for precombat shenanigans, thats most of its value

exotic perch
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So yea healing is beans

fossil shard
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It’s comically bad

delicate perch
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The tech is abuse the healers until they do it because we certainly can not

royal timber
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I'm a little perplexed by something, is Azhiccaran Parapodia the better trinket to pick over the Empowering Crystal because of the damage proc or did it get nerfed and is the secondary stat proc of the Crystal better now?

velvet crater
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Small question, I've recently came back to WoW after a long hiatus since Legion. On overcapping on Astral Power. Is it better to spend AP before 2x Wrath with EC or go into eclipse and then dump AP?

lucid olive
craggy sonnet
royal timber
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but that's within the margin of error for droptimizer

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And I ran a 9 key dawnbreaker earlier today where it seemingly did pretty well, no crystal drop though

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Parapodia is basically holding the position of my Voidcore until I get a Voidglass weapon

lucid olive
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parapodia good for m+

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crystal good for raid

craggy sonnet
# royal timber I did, and crystal was a .2% increase over parapodia

if you wanted to go the extra mile and sim a dungeonroute (i think there is a short explanation in the dg.gg faq) haste would gain some more value and parapodia therefore likely beat out crystal. but hard to say without knowing your current gear n stuff. both are decent trinkets. would not recommend voidcore for m+ as it doesnt scale in aoe

royal timber
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I kept thinking I'd get a voidglass weapon drop but like...nadda

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So I started farming out other trinkets this week, thank you for the help

limpid grotto
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Nexus King M, on platforms are we wrathing + starsurge on titan / starfall starfire / starfire starsurge / wrath starfall ? and same question on phase where you can hit dragon and boss itself

craggy sonnet
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ethical thing would be to ST titan

limpid grotto
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figured as much

craggy sonnet
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you can put some starfalls out early i guess

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im not sure about starfiring tbh

limpid grotto
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I was thinking maybe starfire with starsurge on titan if our titan damage is okay

craggy sonnet
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prolly wouldnt bother in case you ever had to cancel

limpid grotto
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and on double boss phase i guess full ST on drake

lofty depot
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if ur not playing kindling (you shuoldnt be), its st yes

craggy sonnet
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ye, full ST drake

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but it only matters for execute during the amp

potent cargo
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bama taking down georgia will brick me up like nothing else

lofty depot
timber raft
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does the dryad just cast a set amount of abilities?

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or does it copy what i cast

lofty depot
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1 starfall, 5 surges

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it even casts the old like 2s cast surge

timber raft
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fuck thats based lol

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so it doesnt matter what i cast during it then?

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because i was like trying to maximize starfalls and shit lol

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not that, thats a bad thing

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just if i dont need to i dont need to focus on that as much

obsidian jetty
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so it matters alittle. That dmg is capped at 10x your int, so it's fairy easy to hit the cap, but you still gotta play the game or you'll do less dam

lucid olive
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imagine if the dryad actually copied your spells

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like the farseer grandparents for shaman

timber raft
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yeah it would be awesome

lucid olive
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dropping double full moons..

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if only full moons had an animation..

lofty depot
lucid olive
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should do like farseer as well and copy their "the grandparent does more ST dam with chain lightning than lighning bolt" thing

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logged onto 11.2.5 ptr to see if they fixed full moon animation

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they didn't

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got this though

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new moon on top

wind mason
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wow im getting really low fps for soulhunter, anyone had this happened?

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like under 10 low

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have 100ish before combat

dense steeple
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Lower your settings for soul hunter

normal pilot
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they shoulda made kotg set give you perma pets

lofty depot
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oo and the cap starts at 5x int and each additional dryad spawn increases it by 5

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👀

wind mason
lofty depot
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go to 0.5

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are we locked in?

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ara 17 slamming

lofty depot
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OREGON LOCK THE FUCK IN

potent cargo
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dan lanning off at least 5 zyns that game

lofty depot
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bro did neck thing "THEYRE DONEZO" and pen scored 21 straight

scarlet tapir
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What are u talking about

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NHL?

vital hound
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cfb

scarlet tapir
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What's that in football terms

vital hound
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college yankball

analog condor
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look here how que looks like now hunter hunter hunter

drifting nova
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simple solution

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never invite hunters

floral radish
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what's the best way to sim for m+ since dungeon slice is incompatible? Was doing patchwerk with 5 targets but that doesn't sound very correct.

muted citrus
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what is the secret for travel form on dim

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👴

vital hound
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can only use between p2.1/2

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you need mount for post p1

drifting nova
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what in the cooked

haughty sluice
delicate perch
craggy sonnet
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Only one hitting adds on first boss

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(kidding)

round oracle
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double cd the pack after second boss = easy 11mil

elder remnant
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why can't i skip hehe

drifting nova
tropic pollen
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In m+ when the tank is gatherin and you're dotting up the mobs, do you let yourself cap ap? If not, do you just send a starfall outside eclipse or ar you getting into eclipse while the tank is gathering?

deft crown
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how is that possible, when i am simming droptimizer for mythic gear it says plexus belt+socket is big upgrade, but when i sim topgear to what to upgrade on myth track it shows disc is better?

delicate perch
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link them

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we have 0 idea what you are simming/looking at

scenic mist
craggy sonnet
scenic mist
deft crown
craggy sonnet
scenic mist
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But I guess you could make this argument ye
Tho I feel most ppl would press incarn before the fade of the eclipse and thus grief themselves

lucid olive
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Your droptimizer has Spark Burst and your top gear har Static Charge

delicate perch
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vers proc is also like 4k less in that sim

lucid olive
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Also 0.2% is within margin of error in droptimizer, that is by no means a "big upgrade"

delicate perch
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insane upgrade actually

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login

lucid olive
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The droptimizer is also in different talents yeah

delicate perch
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wait what

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ec vs keeper even

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that's a hall of famer surely

deft crown
lofty depot
drifting nova
lofty depot
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but dk wasnt gripping them

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me running around cringe

delicate perch
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I’d grip the one that was holding you in place

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Be thankful

lofty depot
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i dont use the puddles

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wildcharge + get good

craggy sonnet
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Yea I mean, it's fine if they stay on boss. People actively swapping and blowing them up is stupid. But especially kills our overall

delicate perch
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Unneeded wild charge sounds like less starfire casts

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Bozo’d

lofty depot
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its not

craggy sonnet
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We legit so easily can play the puddles tho, just cancelform

delicate perch
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Just beam it

craggy sonnet
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Why

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Legit cancelform mid cast and you good.

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Beam kills my spellqueue

proven swallow
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any tips for mythic araz (cd usage/starfall during intermission yay or nay?)

lofty depot
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cd usage = lorrgs
starfall during intermission = u like doing damage?

craggy sonnet
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No

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I hate it

proven swallow
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damage yummy

flint rose
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Did you dot all add on araz mm ?

craggy sonnet
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You can send a sunfire on the smallie spawns at most

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Have your trees up to moonfire them every few sets

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But no, it's not worth manually moonfiring them

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In the intermission you dot everything

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And with aetherial kindling can usually maintain full uptime until they are dying

hasty dove
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So we getting reworked soon?

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and buffed*

craggy sonnet
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Of course

lucid olive
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Reworked early in alpha, then gradually nerfed throughout beta and dogshit at launch

white sandal
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hey yall, upgraded my pc and redownloading add ons, i cant remember the one that changes name plates when dots are applied, it was a WA or add on for platter

lucid olive
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it's a plater script

white sandal
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thank you, found it

lucid olive
white sandal
light drift
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How to get the Item string from Vagabond's Torch for droptimizer input, if i want to compare kris with crafted staff ? I havn't crafted Torch yet.

dreamy locust
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Theres a big box to add items

lucid olive
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You can add the item in Top Gear first, run the sim, and then click the 3 dots on the iteration that uses it and run that iteration in Droptimizer

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If you only want the item string you can add the item in Top Gear and then shift+right click the item icon to copy the base string, then add ,ilevel=720 at the end of the string to make it 720 ilvl

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and then add that item string to your equipped items in your SimC input

dreamy locust
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Id just add them all with this box, and topgear

lucid olive
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that's not what he asked but yes you can add every droptimizer item manually if you want

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Or you can add the offhand in Top Gear and click this on the iteration in the Top Gear sim

dreamy locust
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But he just wants to compare kris/staff/offhand, no reason to use droptimizer over topgear to compare

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them

light drift
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i have to paste droptimizer sim to wowaudit

dreamy locust
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I dont think wowaudit will accept droptimizers with added stuff,

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But might be wrong

light drift
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thanks gamz

lofty depot
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ur just adding an item to your bag slot

dreamy locust
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Droptimizers dont normally compare bag items tho? Just equipped? I guess it does check offhand/MH variations tho for casters

craggy sonnet
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well, you can change the "equip" status

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of the stuff you add to your bags

lofty depot
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So then when it compares that item with a new one

timber sphinx
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someone has a weakaura for the dryad? so i do not miss the two starsurges inside ca?

scenic mist
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blud you talkin' bout topgear

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🧌

lucid olive
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<@&114146878353833984> any chance to make this a sticker

lofty depot
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please keep up lil gup

scenic mist
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damn i don't have it wtf

lofty depot
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shit spec

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wcyd

scenic mist
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i'm trying as boomie

lofty depot
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do u have a oh in bag

scenic mist
scenic mist
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only shows option when no oh available ?

lofty depot
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no clue, cuz its always showed for me

timber sphinx
scenic mist
maiden pasture
unkempt tree
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for m+ I need to sims 1target 5 min latest no buffs?

craggy sonnet
lofty depot
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"need to" no

craggy sonnet
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or search in here and you are gonna find a rundown

simple perch
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if i do only 10s

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do i go kotg or elune

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?

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m+

scenic mist
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the one you like

simple perch
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i like to do max dmg

scenic mist
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EC will most probably do more dam tho

scenic mist
simple perch
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my main has 3k already

scenic mist
simple perch
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so kotg would be better or not

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for more burst

scenic mist
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no

simple perch
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since it dies so fast

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?

scenic mist
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kotg dont have more burst than ec

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in m+

simple perch
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so what do i do

scenic mist
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ec and cry, higher keys, rerolls

normal pilot
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thank them for the carry and find higher keys

simple perch
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so we definitely ec

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right

scenic mist
normal pilot
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you're trying to do something the game isn't designed to allow, which is shine in low keys. there are no definites

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you could prolly make kotg work too, i think a few ppl have tried

simple perch
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the guide says kotg is better for weekly 10s

scenic mist
simple perch
scenic mist
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but as gastank said and as i said

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for 10s it's whatever

scenic mist
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(where afaik there isnt key lvl based advice on which hero spec to play)

timber raft
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I personally find that keeper just feels better

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Casting starfire the whole dungeon is nuts

lofty depot
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i mean it does damage at least

wide dawn
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How much does geared boomie sims?

lucid olive
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check simulationcraft website

scenic mist
wide dawn
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holy shit 6m

lucid olive
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how much is not really that relevent

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but you can probably push it to 6.1 or something

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6.2 if you do some cringe shit

scenic mist
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can be more depending on timekill

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and crit jesus

dense steeple
vital hound
lucid olive
lofty depot
vital hound
delicate perch
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What a terrible day to have eyes

lucid olive
drifting nova
delicate perch
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LMFAO

vital hound
lucid olive
muted berry
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do you guys play around 4 set at all?

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or just send fury

lofty depot
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generally no, send it

vital hound
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only hold if pack dying and you can have it up for start of new pack

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otherwise play kotg m+

lofty depot
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me try to get 6 pack at the end of pull and yell at tank to hurry and pull

livid prairie
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Anyone else just find it impossible to get accepted to raid as balance this patch?

craggy sonnet
leaden birch
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on araz, are you guys dotting all the adds or nah

craggy sonnet
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i usually sunfire the smallies (but i feel it could be wasted atp) .. dot the echo and starfall with AK if you can make whatever push timing you are aiming for .. and dot everything in intermission

craggy sonnet
#

if only

leaden birch
#

whats AK

craggy sonnet
#

stupid fucks dont even dot the boss if smallies are up

craggy sonnet
leaden birch
#

ty

leaden birch
craggy sonnet
#

yes

#

well, for first echo you can send surges technically

#

since that has to die

leaden birch
#

tyty

round oracle
#

if two targets live exactly the duration of starfall, is the play to starsurge because then kindling doesn't matter

#

or if the dots wont expire anyway before theyre dead

craggy sonnet
#

yea, i think so

iron shuttle
#

How well is OBR with balance druid ?

lofty depot
#

like every other class, bad

#

learn to play the game >

normal pilot
#

it's not bad for demo lock

iron shuttle
#

What if i have carpal tunnel syndrome (which i do have)

lofty depot
#

then play what u want?

iron shuttle
#

im just lookin for lower apm for remix

#

beside warlock

steel sedge
normal pilot
#

play like the future of wow, use controller

iron shuttle
#

No

normal pilot
#

don't live in the past

iron shuttle
#

Also Alpha in 2-3 days

lofty depot
#

if i speak

craggy sonnet
#

isnt obr mostly fine for EC?

haughty moon
#

if you're running something like streets where there's a lot of bosses not not that many huge pulls is it a better idea to use ec prio talents? not sure how to check what ppl are doing for that key specifically at high levels

#

nvm

#

i'm dumb there's breakdown on warcraft logs

#

looks like no

craggy sonnet
#

i think the prio talents are simming better in most keys tbh

haughty moon
#

really?

#

i accidently ran only in fg and felt like i did much worse

craggy sonnet
#

mhm

#

idk sim it

#

(not that its a real representation of an actual key)

#

(but prolly better than single run feelycraft)

#

im actually running the dg prio talents and swapped the last point in boat to rattle

#

no thoughts given

#

but am also working on the ec apl right now .. so maybe i was trolled

fiery dune
#

Hi guys,

pretty „newish“ to balance, played it as a toon a lot, but i rerolled from warrior recently.
I used to use luxthos on every class… but i get lag spikes all the time so i reworked my ui (on my warrior at least), now i have a question… what buffs/debuffs (except sun & moonfire) do i need to track?
Got an aura for the set buffs but what is mandatory to keep track of?

another question, are there any good sun & moonfire trackers out there?
I tried a few from wago but most of them track it kinda shitty, like the aren’t accurate (wa shows like 4-5 seconds) and my plater show 15+ seconds, that applies mostly in m+ when targets die and i swap, then the tracking fucks up big time
and most of the auras on wago are last updated in like season 1 or 2

lucid olive
twin lotus
#

no more evoker, back to boomkin

#

just in time for the buffs next week

jaunty blaze
haughty moon
lucid olive
#

I assume it'd overwrite it

round field
#

Need to edit the mod yourself to change it

storm python
#

whats the fastest way to farm valor

drifting nova
#

key spam idk

void ocean
sudden flame
#

feral buffs

jaunty blaze
twin lotus
#

they will be announced friday

#

reverting kotg to PTR tuning moonkacopium

jade flume
#

Bamkin is op

#

Just gotta crit every starsurge, boss to die at perfect time, and hunters to die on the boss

#

Then ur gonna see 🔥

sudden flame
jade flume
#

My homies were just nice enough to int the bad pulls

#

Normally they do the opposite

vale pebble
sudden flame
#

nerf boomkin man...

vale pebble
#

true man...

#

poseidon vs baby seahorse

jade flume
#

They wont prio my bamkin for loot because im resto main or some shit like that...

#

Life isnt fair

sudden flame
#

youre already 721 ilvl last i heard sus

jade flume
#

As resto yeah

vale pebble
#

as moonkin only 720

#

need more loot..

sudden flame
#

save some gear for the rest of us

jade flume
#

718 VerySadCat

#

Maxing out my gear in 2 days tho

versed garnet
#

does the sim recognize that 2 on use trinkets cant be used at the same time?

vale pebble
#

crests are still capped

jade flume
#

Just in time for the boost

vale pebble
#

in 2 days

vale pebble
#

crest uncap is like

#

22

versed garnet
#

ty

jade flume
#

Yeah but i mean, max ilvl before the boost

sudden flame
#

very cool

jade flume
#

Ill get everything to 723

vale pebble
#

the boost is next week no?

#

the fake one at least

jade flume
#

No, 7th

vale pebble
#

ah ok

sudden flame
#

increase ilvl cap by 10 don't give us uncapped crests till 2 weeks later Despairge

vale pebble
#

yea they need to remove this turbobests thing.

#

just give dinners

sudden flame
#

Ye i would acutally prefer that

vale pebble
#

and uncap crests or something

#

just dont raise ilvl

#

it is pointless

jade flume
#

Gotta get 1st boss down to sub 2 min kill time

#

Need the boost

lucid olive
#

can't wait for all my 708 ilvl characters to be more dogshit overnight

vale pebble
#

yea man idk i want to gear my moonkin

#

but its just

#

literal begging on the streets

lucid olive
#

someone in RLE said they should uncap crests when you get the achievement for that crest

vale pebble
#

pls 1 keystone

#

someone in rle is stupid seems like

#

shocker

lucid olive
#

idk doesn't seem terrible

vale pebble
#

that person should get sh07

jade flume
#

Just, dont do the turboboosto, dont uncap crests

#

Shrimple

sudden flame
#

need a 704 belt Despairge

vale pebble
#

true nuclear bomb

jade flume
#

Add vendor so i can buy my fkn items already

#

Never gonna get the dumbass weapon

vale pebble
#

2 weeks of m+ jannying are enough

#

free me

lucid olive
#

i did like 60 keys on warlock last season to upgrade everything in like 2 weeks and i still haven't recovered

vale pebble
#

why warlock

jade flume
#

I need to make game plan for upgrades on turbo boost

lucid olive
#

was playing warlock in alt raid

jade flume
#

To have crest reduction on every item on main

lucid olive
#

they needed summon

vale pebble
lucid olive
#

this tier they need battle shout so i can play an actual fun class

#

im kind of crazy with it

jade flume
#

Holy

jade flume
#

Man i might be gearing a war too

drifting nova
#

I can atleast not be a tourist

jade flume
#

For m+ tankin

vale pebble
#

gearing is pain and suffering

#

any time past week 3

lucid olive
#

fury is fun

vale pebble
#

how the fuck do people do it

lucid olive
#

fury and havoc the specs i have most fun on this season

jade flume
#

Fury looks kinda dumb

drifting nova
jade flume
#

Dont u like hold rampage forever

drifting nova
#

holding the line vs these demons

lucid olive
#

kekkers brother your warriors name is a typo

drifting nova
#

wasnt even my typo so yeah

#

sure

drifting nova
#

it's dogshit

lucid olive
#

raging blow spammer

drifting nova
#

it's only to enrage you

#

thats it

jade flume
#

Man back in my day rampage was the pamp ability

drifting nova
#

you think rampage is bad

#

bloodthirst is worse

lucid olive
#

bladestorm and then raging blow as much as you can before you press rampage

drifting nova
#

I'd play arms but I like doing some damage

#

sometimes

#

fury is still zzz

lucid olive
#

realized i was playing wrong when i looked at critcake and saw that you just never press thunderous roar

drifting nova
#

arms being a 20% reduction is just so bad

drifting nova
lucid olive
#

its literally just a "oh i dont have anything else to press now except bloodthirst" button

drifting nova
#

I dont even know if I should champion's spear in keys half the time

#

it feels as useless as roar

lucid olive
#

think both are bad

#

bladestorm

#

whirlwind

#

spam raging blow

drifting nova
#

can we go back to when roar crit

#

guaranteed

#

instant burst

lucid olive
#

inb4 "omg this is balance chat not warrior"

drifting nova
#

a coin has two sides

#

war is probably in a worse state than balance

#

surprisingly

#

didnt think that was possible

sudden flame
jade flume
#

Fresh boomie, fresh in this class discord. It is by far the badest class discord of them all. It is really really bad. People are only sarcastic, making bad jokes. Not discussion regarding the class. All the time offtopic. Really bad

pallid bay
#

its good crests arent uncapped

drifting nova
#

surely hunters boots drop for me now

#

I believe

lucid olive
#

good luck

scenic mist
lucid olive
#

oh i did 6 bosses on evoker this week too, cant wait to open vault and get dogshit

jade flume
#

These dumbass shoes are the most likely item to drop but the hardest to get

lucid olive
#

my evoker almost more gear than my main at this point

jade flume
#

Man my priest is gonna be 719 if i farm like 60 crests

#

Kinda rising

pallid bay
drifting nova
#

frost dk nerf whenw tf

#

this is ungodly

pallid bay
#

people being forced to do 40 keys w10 before their raid

#

is not good

jade flume
#

Tbh i agree, i just dont think the cap removal is even needed

scenic mist
jade flume
#

Especially when its so late, at that point u wouldnt even cap crests on alt anyways

drifting nova
#

almost as if

#

the crest system

#

is..

#

bad

jade flume
#

I think crest system is fine, valor stones are complete dogshite tho

scenic mist
#

Kekkers take GlorpClassic

jade flume
#

My evoker is perma at 0 valor stones

#

Cant upgrade my shit

scenic mist
#

3 weeks before warbound

loud kettle
#

Play the game noob

scenic mist
#

But ye terrible

drifting nova
#

not even 1 boot from hunters

#

outstanding work

lucid olive
#

make crests warbound week 10 instead of uncapped

drifting nova
#

week 1

#

deal

#

this whole "the game is alt friendly now"

#

really makes me laugh

jade flume
#

I legit dont see why valorstones even exist at this point tbh

pallid bay
drifting nova
jade flume
#

I legit dont feel they have to

maiden pasture
drifting nova
#

they exist to be both needed at game start to restrict you

#

and useless near the end

#

it's a shitty tuning stick

maiden pasture
#

doing keys early in season before raid is fine because people often take time away from work and shit

sudden flame
drifting nova
#

I've been searching for 6+ hoas the past 2week and cant find them

pallid bay
#

only thing crest cap removal does is allow you to spend them inefficiently

pale swan
drifting nova
#

let me take a wild shot in the dark

#

this very sentiment happened last season

#

like it did in the 1st

pallid bay
#

and yeah valorstones should just get deleted

#

i dont upgrade my alts gear

#

cause i know i'll have to farm the valorstones back

drifting nova
#

I've got gilded ready to go

#

but no valorstones

pallid bay
#

everything but gilded upgrades turns into more time investment Sleep

drifting nova
#

dont worry, we'l get houses soon

#

to distract you from the real issues

#

something something argentine malvinas

#

whys there still no way to check id lockouts

odd osprey
#

valorstone exists cause they need a new trash currency for wq and shit

#

also campaign

drifting nova
#

40valorstones for those 4quests

#

B I G

odd osprey
#

yeah

#

wow, such a heroic reward

ionic surge
drifting nova
#

20m fract pug

#

3items drop

#

I got tier but eh still knowing you're locked and saying nothing

#

is giga dog

#

you can see when you app to groups what boss they are on

#

but you cant see the applier

#

(notably only a problem with the 20% per person loot system)

jade flume
#

Yeah you should be able to see if someone is locked tbh

#

It can be anyones item so its everyones business

drifting nova
#

I'd say just lock the loot to number of players

#

but then blizzard would be like but what if 10 people are locked

#

and it unlocks funneling

#

blablah

#

suppose this instance only really happened because of loomithar and hunters

#

like 10 left after each

#

imagine not having an antenna

jade flume
#

Yeah it do be like that

#

I have done like 4 soul hunters this week

drifting nova
#

just get it in the vault

jade flume
#

Insta left every time

#

Dumbass bitchass item

drifting nova
#

I'm..sticking with normal forever not even seen hc once yet

jade flume
#

Why is it so hard to get it VerySadCat

drifting nova
#

easiest solution would be to make it the set item

#

so you could catalyse

#

but thatd be smart

#

and this is blizzard

jade flume
#

Yeah that wouldve been cool

#

So many chars either already have or have had myth shoes

#

But its a worthless item

drifting nova
#

idk how they havent learned

#

from withered jim

#

items that everyone wants/needs

#

antenna/boots now

drowsy basin
#

I mean we get bullions or w/e in 3 weeks and boots are an obvious choice for anyone w/o them.

lofty depot
#

Dinars

jade flume
#

Bulliongs

craggy sonnet
#

Feels kinda awful to pick em

drowsy basin
#

Guaranteed to drop cloth

jade flume
#

Depends how many items you miss

#

Im not buying anything if my char misses more than 3 items

pallid bay
#

im buying everything

#

new xp gg

jade flume
#

U already got everything though

drifting nova
#

week 44 of people still needing shit they dont

#

wake me up

livid jay
drifting nova
#

has myth wep..surely this champ wep is better

#

sat here with a veteran wep be like

jade flume
#

Was it one of the clowns who wants to use the soulbinder/fractilus weapon

#

Instead of myth track

drifting nova
#

no

#

it was plexus

#

its a verified shit wep

#

he already had myth diamondecore

#

the set one

#

1h mace on a priest

#

and I, on my paladin, who cannot use staves

#

needed it

jade flume
#

Yeah that should be illegal ngl

drifting nova
#

hahaha

#

got into another group, loomithar cocoon trink drops

#

the leader, a ret paladin wins it

#

cant make this up

craggy sonnet
#

yeah, its not only people winning stuff for offspec over main but also people just rolling to sell

#

but people are paying

#

and there is nothing preventing them

#

so thats what you get

drifting nova
#

...he said he was gearing holy

#

but playing ret

jade flume
#

Tbf, ive done that before

#

I dont always play my main spec

#

He mightve been bsing tho

digital berry
#

Being back personal loot

delicate perch
hazy storm
#

Spec you’re currently specced into > someone in OS changing loot spec should still be a thing

#

IMO

#

It’s like one added step but prevents stuff like that in pugs I guess

craggy sonnet
#

ok

#

and how do you make that distinction?

#

so you cant help out on say heal or tank spec in your group

scenic mist
craggy sonnet
#

if you want to actually get gear for another spec?

#

i dont think there is an elegant solution for this other than personal loot

#

idk

#

always exploitable

scenic mist
#

maybe let raid leader choose before 1st boss

craggy sonnet
#

gotta make stuff untradable, lock them to a loot spec when joining a group

scenic mist
#

between classic loot and personnal loot

craggy sonnet
#

so raid lead cant change it after? what if you give lead to someone else

vale pebble
#

just do gdkp in retail Okay

craggy sonnet
#

actually, personal loot doesnt even help if you dont lock folks to a loot spec

normal pilot
#

you just hide what loot ppl get

craggy sonnet
#

nightmare of a system

normal pilot
#

you need to fix the problem

craggy sonnet
#

yea well, doesnt help you not getting loot in the end tho

normal pilot
#

the problem isn't not getting loot, the problem is someone else getting the loot

#

if you don't see it, it's not a problem

craggy sonnet
#

idk

#

i want loot

#

everybody else can have it too

#

as long as i get it

normal pilot
#

it's not guarnateed you've already accepted that

craggy sonnet
#

but if you are targeting some piece of loot and not getting it over weeks n weeks

normal pilot
#

if you don't see someon else getting it you can just justify it to yourself as 'shit rng'

craggy sonnet
#

then just not showing someone else got it, doesnt really matter to me

#

but then i hate the shit rng

normal pilot
#

but once you see someone else getting it when you're clearly the better player and deserve it then you feel worse

craggy sonnet
#

maybe

#

not an actual solution tho

scenic mist
craggy sonnet
#

i mean, that was an exaggerated scenario

normal pilot
#

ya friction with teh game isn't a problem, ppl still continue to play the game with all the dumb friction blizz makes

#

you just don't want to turn players on each others

craggy sonnet
#

but knowing the system

#

i could still complain that im not getting it because some other random dick is changing lootspec for every trinket out there

#

definitely gotta make loot non-tradable again tho

#

which means you need master loot back

pallid bay
scenic mist
#

not rockshot

drifting nova
scenic mist
#

im' beggin

cloud plover
#

for actual gearing

drifting nova
drifting nova
livid jay
drifting nova
#

only did ..post msq raids? like 10man or 20man ones

pallid bay
livid jay
#

oh no its Pullamaa

scenic mist
willow sorrel
#

Damn, my vote was gonna be Jonny

scenic mist
#

wait the dh did literally no dmg

#

might be him

#

must be him

#

the avatar

#

Cras

pallid bay
#

rolled 100..

scenic mist
pallid bay
#

bro typed ":D"

#

then left the group

livid jay
#

i just gave up and accepted that this is my trinket situation for now until i am insanely lucky or someone poor loots antenna in hc pug

scenic mist
#

based

ionic surge
drifting nova
#

imagine if you had a loot toggle

#

just like spec toggle

#

(which is also dumb but eh)

jade flume
#

Man if u do under 99 parse u just shouldnt be allowed to roll on loots or

#

Anyone with me

drifting nova
#

isnt that how guilds way back in the day (and probably more recently) got burnout

#

theyd max gear then just stop playing

#

so no

#

you will run the raid 400x

jade flume
#

When u max the gear its time to start playing frfr

drifting nova
#

intentionally died on p1 dimmy

jade flume
#

Get some hundos, big dam type shit

drifting nova
#

got rewarded with loot

#

gg game

scenic mist
#

"let them die they wont parse i'll get the loot"

delicate perch
#

then the healers won't get 99s

drifting nova
#

you underestimate how much I stand in loomithar silk

scenic mist
delicate perch
#

99s for role only (tanks get no loot ripbozo)

jade flume
#

Because if we dont die then boss dies type shit

scenic mist
#

????

#

never read this much bs

jade flume
#

Dps is fake role

scenic mist
#

keep me alive you dumbdumb

#

me live me kill boss

jade flume
#

Exactly, healers get loots, keeps noober dps alive, boss dies

#

Shrimple

scenic mist
#

you dont need loot for that

#

just press buttons

jade flume
#

I do tho

dire osprey
lucid olive
jade flume
#

1 item = 1 heal is my exchange rate atm

lucid olive
#

thats a fair deal

#

you didnt specify what kind of item

lofty depot
#

Didn't specific it being an upgrade either

lucid olive
#

i happen to have a bunch of dogshit pets...

dry compass
#

...is that tettles in a panda suit

lofty depot
#

Yes

#

He's a monk main now

vale pebble
#

holee

jade flume
craggy sonnet
lucid olive
#

that's keggles

jade flume
#

Man bleach is kinda goated

cedar pumice
#

How much approx % Aug evo boosts boomy dps on ST fight?

#

plex M i.e.

craggy sonnet
#

Pure st that is

dire lake
lucid olive
#

EC m+ talents might be a reason why

dire lake
#

This is my m+ Ec build but even in raid talents its not good

#

Its 4,1 at 715 which seems bad

lucid olive
#

you have almost no crit or vers

#

and a ton of haste

haughty sluice
#

when I do the sim with your input

craggy sonnet
#

you are also simming with no buffs

lucid olive
#

yeah thatll do it

dire lake
#

oh.. Thats a bit embarassing for me. thank you all for help

haughty sluice
#

happens

meager storm
magic hornet
#

hi birds im back

craggy sonnet
#

anyone got a stupid new sound playing whenever you convoke on nexus king?

magic hornet
#

last time i played i had some wa that was a nice ui, it also included a "timer" when to cast wrath to overlap it so i get a stack of the whatever into the eclipse

livid jay
#

Guys

#

i think i just found something

#

cyclone on nexus king mean something to anyone?

tough bobcat
#

So shit gamer here: do I starfall on the tangles on loomithar mythic or do I just send Starsurge?

lofty depot
#

U can Starfall on 3t yes

#

I generally only dot the far one and surge tho :/

tough bobcat
#

cool ty

#

I'm like 3rd dmg overall on the tangles in my grp so I think I'll get value out of dotting both

lofty depot
#

Should tell your group to find god

tough bobcat
#

you dont say

dusty bluff
#

On loomithar, how am I handling tangle damage? Starfalling or hard swapping to surge?

#

LOL

#

scrolling up like 5 messages

#

And realizing there’s an echo in here

#

Sorry about that

exotic perch
#

really others classes should hit them

#

but ye see what arctic said

pastel hearth
#

Are you guys dotting the infused tangles on loom mythic ?

lofty depot
#

Are there 3 people in the same guild that are mad at their boomkin for not hitting tangles or

pastel hearth
#

pure coincidence lol

livid jay
#

xD

#

just found something very interesting

#

works reliably

royal zenith
round field
#

thats a bit op

livid jay
#

some resto druid

#

how would they even fix it

#

disable cyclone on that fight or what

#

i guess make mc's immune to cc

lofty depot
#

Making them immune to cc

royal zenith
#

Im jk

#

its good tech

#

actually useful for once

#

(means it will get fixed)

lofty depot
#

Well it's a druid tech thing not a balance druid tech so it's fine

lucid olive
#

they never fixed it on rik reverb

#

but thats a non boss so

normal pilot
#

it's druid utility nothing to fix

coarse grove
livid jay