balance

[leaden birch]

how is that possible

i don't think i've managed a single good item from vault this whole season

[delicate perch]

punishment for playing minigames

[drifting nova]

atleast you have a belt for when disc gets nerfed

[craggy sonnet]

thats not the belt you want to have

[coarse grove]

already have phasebelt sadly

so this is def a socket week

[exotic perch]

socket is big dam

dont forget it

[scenic mist]

10k dps

is no small thing

indeed

[leaden birch]

why is droptimizer so jacked up

[loud kettle]

creatine owns wcyd

[leaden birch]

make it make sense

[loud kettle]

hey chat we got another one

[leaden birch]

nvm i know what i did wrong

kekw

[loud kettle]

oh gg

[leaden birch]

somehow it got re-enabled, usually keep that shit off

[drifting nova]

but it's not the same ilvl

[loud kettle]

the confusion is the 704 simming as a higher upgrade

but its just cuz its comparing to different things

well the confusion was that

[leaden birch]

ye i usually keep the upgrade shit off when doing droptimizer

[maiden pasture]

Crazymeow green name big w

[ionic surge]

@loud kettle since when are you green name tf

[loud kettle]

less than a day, u were quick 'wid it

[potent nimbus]

is mythic antenna automatic here? I play mostly m+ and it doesnt seem to be great according to bloodmallet. mythic chest for catalyst would be the alternative

[ionic surge]

Dont forget us now that you're at the top

[loud kettle]

forget who

[ionic surge]

[wise hare]

why is there a feral in here

and why is he green

[loud kettle]

im a local resident

and im green because well

[wise hare]

did you pay tribute yet

every new green name has to pay

[loud kettle]

yea i already paid

[wise hare]

what did you pay and who

[loud kettle]

thats private info

[lofty depot]

You don't make getting decisions based on bloodmallet

[lucid olive]

crazy is honorary member

Crazy caught up to my role now I need to get moderator next..

[wise hare]

wait hol up

bloodmallet

is still a thing

[lucid olive]

yeah

[wise hare]

dont do it

[lofty depot]

There's also a 2nd one now called liquidarmory

[leaden birch]

man everyone out here getting myth antenna

[lucid olive]

and if you talk bad about it you'll proc Bloodmallet himself in here like last time..

[wise hare]

wait he is in here

did he get mad

[lofty depot]

No, he just asks us why we think it's bad

[lucid olive]

yeah we had a pin like "don't use bloodmallet for your gear it is not updated for new patch" or whatever last season

and he came in and asked how the website could be improved for balance

but its just about TCers not really giving a shit in updating the profiles

[wise hare]

maybe by providing proper data

[royal zenith]

what the heckers

a green meow

my condolences

[loud kettle]

[normal pilot]

rip only green logs now no more orange

[eager raft]

damn they’re just giving that shit away

First gamz now crazy?!?!?!??!!?

What’s next? Kekkers?

[brittle mulch]

i crafted weapon and bracers

do i craft belt next or go for like neck/ring

[lucid olive]

kekkers should go right to admin tbh

[eager raft]

Amen

[wise hare]

idk who that is

but i feel like he is a big meme

[eager raft]

he’s a good dude just a very casual player with very casual opinions

[pseudo merlin]

Holy

Ive been waiting for this moment

[pseudo merlin]

No way he just who'd kekkers

[pallid bay]

strong casual opinions

[eager raft]

You should have recommended kekkers take your spot when you gave up green

[pallid bay]

my recommendation can only be bought

[brittle mulch]

what do we craft after weapon and bracers

[eager raft]

whatever slot is low ilvl ig

[upper anvil]

Whats this man's username. I wanna tead about kekkers takes

[eager raft]

gatekeeping, sorry

[lofty depot]

Idk type in @ kekkers, surely u'll find it

[upper anvil]

💀

Is kekker that one dude

It all makes sense now

[jaunty blaze]

[glacial mason]

Heyo guys, this might be a stupid question but: i cant find anything about how to use the 4pc in m+ correctly. I did just read smth about Hardcasting starfire? But for what exactly? ty ❤️

[lofty depot]

Hard casting Starfire is the 2p

And u need to spend asp to make sure u can do so

The 4p is a buff to your foe, which you just send foe on CD regardless

[glacial mason]

okay ty, so there is nothing really to keep track of?

jut not be capped on asp when casting starfire

[lofty depot]

U can keep track of the buff cuz there are times it's like ticking down where u would press it

But for the almost part yea ur just sending for on cd

[glacial mason]

is it better to only spend asp when im almost full? or just send starfall for example on 45 asp

[lofty depot]

Shouldn't be capped on asp, regardless but yea

[lofty depot]

Generally I send to empty in CDs cuz 1 Starfall sometimes only gets u 1 starfire

And u want to cast Starfire the most in cds

[glacial mason]

and how is it in incarn do i use wrath or starfire

[glacial mason]

sry, ment st with incarn

[lofty depot]

Read it again

Read your hero talents, read lunar calling

[glacial mason]

well, nvm ye

new to balance

😄

tyvm was big help

[stuck quartz]

any betters on a boomy rework when alpha drops

[lofty depot]

When alpha drops? No under by a million

Be lucky to see one let alone first phase

[stuck quartz]

It kinda feels like boomy is in the next group of rework

Well the class updates are listed only in the first phase of alpha would be there or beta I presume

[lofty depot]

Yea I don't trust their funny info graphic

[scenic mist]

only thing i trust is you not getting invited

[snow elm]

Ec 4pc is triggering on the dawn breaker ship 2nd pull and I get agro from casters 😭

[upper anvil]

Fun times

[lofty depot]

It's ok, I'm gonna be playing battlefield anyway

[torpid thorn]

question how much crit do you need as boomy for raid because my raidbots say i need to get more crit even i have now allready 17%

[paper ember]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[maiden pasture]

just sim ur char always dont worry about chasing some number

[torpid thorn]

yeah just find it weired tbh

[lofty depot]

That's probably cuz u think u want haste

[torpid thorn]

this are my stats atm

and it still tells me to get more crit than mastery

[paper ember]

Sim tells all. But based on that picture you want way less haste and more crit/mastery

[lofty depot]

Yes u have too much haste

[west wren]

Is there a season maximum of tokens you can get from the vault if your vault is poopoo each week ? Or you can keep saving 6 each week ?

[obsidian girder]

should be 12

should say on them

[craggy sonnet]

That's not a season maximum tho. But you can't hold more than 12 at a time

[scenic mist]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[vital hound]

🫘

[craggy sonnet]

that neck aint bad

[vital hound]

hero track

[craggy sonnet]

oh frick me

yeah

what is this sheepthree?

[vital hound]

sheepone

[craggy sonnet]

💀

[vital hound]

sheepthree got myth track eca ring

sheeptwo got shoulders from fg

[craggy sonnet]

well, sheepone can take sac for m+ .. geegee

[vital hound]

why the fuck would i want to do that

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qjzUDR2txLC2ADVn3qH7Yg

holy fuck im getting rid of the BELT

[craggy sonnet]

forge sucky sucky in mplusis

why are you comparing that craft to a 714 plex belt

[vital hound]

was one of the options in there to spend 30 on plex + 60 on wrists

[pliant tiger]

I wonder why we cast second CA just after convoke? Is it cause treant window?

[vital hound]

ye

[pliant tiger]

Ty ❤️

[lofty depot]

5.58

[vital hound]

🫘

[mental plover]

bamkin ded

blizzord plz fix

[vital hound]

ya working on it

my rings fucking suck

[lofty depot]

SAME

[round oracle]

that seems pretty good number

[vital hound]

NO THEY DONT

[lofty depot]

?

THIS WRONG ONE

[vital hound]

you have a gate

still good

[lofty depot]

ITS THE WRONG ONE

[vital hound]

also 2x myth

[lofty depot]

what the

no the 707 isnt myth

got a hm ring, and it spawns at 707

[vital hound]

[lofty depot]

this cringe no

cant even wear in m+, is yucky

[round oracle]

yeah gearing is pretty cringe if wanna do both content

[pallid bay]

just equip some haste

more haste = more fun

[round oracle]

tried 40k haste in m+ it was fun

[scenic mist]

kotg very fun

[round oracle]

wonder how horrible low haste kotg m+ is

and playing the 4set

[pallid bay]

kotg isnt that bad

you get some haste in hero tree

[round oracle]

in aoe situations

[round oracle]

is that pvp edited

mine says 12%

[pallid bay]

uh i just took it from wowhead

[vital hound]

ya 12

[lofty depot]

thats 20% more haste

thats badass

[lucid olive]

4k haste on dimmy feels like i'm commiting a war crime

[pallid bay]

should play EC for WoE movement globals

[lofty depot]

have u tried playing feral

[pallid bay]

[lucid olive]

nice dawn emote

[pallid bay]

what dawn emote..

[lucid olive]

i just start using my dreamstates to enter back into solar everytime

[pallid bay]

thats what the talent is for!

[scenic mist]

wdym

how could u use them otherwise

[round oracle]

lol

[lucid olive]

i mean like not precasting the 1st one

so i use both

cause the 1.8s cast time at end of eclipse is dogshit

[scenic mist]

so exited to open my first boomie vault tomorrow

kriss is coming i can feel it

or maybe mythic arz

[gray pulsar]

Get ready for plexus mace

[scenic mist]

no way

i'll get 717 antenna 717 araz 717 kriss

and be fucked

but the nice way

(i'll take araz)

[lucid olive]

lol imagine not having kris

[gray pulsar]

when did the big money birds switch weapon enchan to stonebound artistry? Still running Aurhority of the Depths

[lucid olive]

(mine is heroic)

[scenic mist]

my mythic weapon is better then

[lucid olive]

yes

i have not got a mythic onehand yet

[scenic mist]

when it simmed higher for them

sim it regularly

[scenic mist]

got both on the same reclear

[lucid olive]

and crafting is a big waste cause i have a 723 agi polearm

[scenic mist]

lucky me

[scenic mist]

shoudlnt i craft oh next week tho ?

eventhough i have 723 weapons

i mean next week might be premature

let's wait for the uncapped

[round oracle]

wtb ilvl can only get to 5.720 by recrafting stats

[gray pulsar]

0.3% might be margin of error https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gzeAaauvu9LqPAX8j5Pe83

[scenic mist]

it's not

would register as "sidegrade" if it were within margin

in blue rather than green

like this

[gray pulsar]

Being able to read would be a beautiful thing

Thanks

[scenic mist]

you should sim all weapon echants btw

not just stonebound

you never know

[scenic mist]

also you're lacking a purple gem

[round oracle]

cursed crit pretty wild enchant

[craggy sonnet]

my guy already rocking 723 belt

[scenic mist]

true

• you should probably go with speed boot enchant rather than stamina

[gray pulsar]

Did sim higher last I checked. Which was a week ago

[gray pulsar]

Hmm, good point

[scenic mist]

could be

[gray pulsar]

Gonna reshuffle gems tomorrow anyway

[craggy sonnet]

cursed crit the only "good" one

cuz it takes away haste

[scenic mist]

cause it's the only haste eating one right ?

ye

[craggy sonnet]

also always sim with all the cloak options

if you are looking to minmax weap enchants/sockets etc

[round oracle]

is mount speed enchant on boots for dimensius fun

[scenic mist]

wtf

[gray pulsar]

Need to pad ilvl so I get invited to pugs

[scenic mist]

does it even work for flight form ?

[round oracle]

does flight form even work there still

[gray pulsar]

Flight form? Risky behaviour on dim

[scenic mist]

yes

flight form works from p2.1 to p2.2

[round oracle]

got fucked first week never tried again

[craggy sonnet]

i got stuck unable to move on hc dim this week

not sure if thats a thing

[scenic mist]

yeah cause u tried between p1 and p2.1

[craggy sonnet]

indeed

so its bugged there

[round oracle]

good design

[scenic mist]

ye

[craggy sonnet]

confirmed

ok

only had a single try

so wasnt sure

[night gulch]

have you gotten to p3 yet? its actually the worst time possible when the stars get closer

[craggy sonnet]

yeah it was working from 1st to 2nd platform

[lofty depot]

what the

reported

[leaden birch]

interesting... soulbinder trinket @ 723 sims slightly higher than parapodia @ 723

I can ignore all of it if I just get a fucking antenna

[scenic mist]

wdym

it was blueposted

like a month ago

[leaden birch]

what the

[lofty depot]

i aint reading blue posts on boss i havent killed in a month

[scenic mist]

[lofty depot]

and wont kill until november

[scenic mist]

liar

it was this bluepost

you def read it

[lofty depot]

nope

[round oracle]

only read the pin

[lofty depot]

make gamz read, make gamz write summary

ezpz

me just parrot

[gray pulsar]

arctic want cracker?

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[lofty depot]

can he say that?

[scenic mist]

you need to lvl up a rogue dude

[gray pulsar]

Because parrot, duh

[scenic mist]

go questing around ratchet

[gray pulsar]

I am confusion

Surely not because it's 0:30 and we just smashed our head against moth for 2 hours

[scenic mist]

what is the confusion about ?

[gray pulsar]

Aha! French punctuation

[gray pulsar]

Life, mainly

[lofty depot]

hmm do i craft neck for 1%... or wait for fractilly maybe kris drop

[scenic mist]

why not wait

[vital hound]

prep da boss

[craggy sonnet]

you are not killing nexusking anyways

so might as well see if you get fract

well, unless you are not the one who should get it

[vital hound]

wth

[craggy sonnet]

?

[vital hound]

arctic is our goat

he will kill fractillus and soul hunters this week

[lucid olive]

woah you think he'll be able to?

[vital hound]

i know it

[scenic mist]

single handedly that is

[craggy sonnet]

luckily i wasnt talking about him not killing fract

or soul hunters

[lofty depot]

my parse

[scenic mist]

[lofty depot]

ope we gained a little

hmmm

need to find 10k

oo i got it

srelyyyyyyyyyyyy

[manic pulsar]

What does Blood Mallet say?

[lofty depot]

to seek help

fricc

[jade flume]

Life isnt fair gg

Already simming more than all my chars combined

[lofty depot]

cant find the 10k

man fuck

or wait thats 1k :?

cant find the 1k

[maiden pasture]

keep rerunning

surely u highroll a sim

ez

lower number of iterations and keep simming till number go high

[lofty depot]

true

i think im procing the wrong way

[dense steeple]

i wish i simmed big

but im bad so'

standby

im really hoping this sim tells me to replace delve belt

[scenic mist]

did u check the raid buff ?

not raid buffs

the raid enchant buff

[dense steeple]

damn not replacing belt yet

[lofty depot]

oh

wait a hairy second

we did it

[scenic mist]

now dont link it

ever

or they'll know

[craggy sonnet]

fixed combat length sim gg ez

[lofty depot]

no cheating

[round oracle]

prove it

[scenic mist]

he has nothing to prove to the likes of you

wdym

[turbid sundial]

Hey there i got heroic Lily and Parapodia but also a Myth-track Soleahs - sims for 2min 6 targets aswell as 4 minutes 1 target tell me to equip lily and Soleahs, while bloodmallet tells me that parapodia would be higher on Hero than maxed out Sloeah buy a good amount. Any clarity on that? do i trust my sim or the premade sims by bloodmallet?

[delicate perch]

[normal pilot]

you never trust bloodmallet over your own sims for any spec any class any situation

[turbid sundial]

gotcha

[lofty depot]

1. why are we simming 2m 6t the fuck
2. why are we using bloodmallet

[delicate perch]

kinda cursed sims tho

[turbid sundial]

i mean 2min 6 targets is a semi realistic chainpull no?

[lofty depot]

no

[turbid sundial]

oki

[delicate perch]

lol

[turbid sundial]

since i cant sim dungeonslice what would you recommend then for m+

[round oracle]

wonder what wowhead guides are telling people to use bloodmallet & simming like that

[lofty depot]

reading the faq in the compendium

[round oracle]

as they keep coming here

[turbid sundial]

also, got any idea why nobody is playing sloeahs in higher keys then? im confused

[normal pilot]

bloodmallet is perfectly fine for wowhead audience

wow players don't actually care about being right, thye just want a simple answer

[round oracle]

x)

[lofty depot]

"some" wow players

[delicate perch]

[turbid sundial]

i care about being right but i just dont know so where else do i ask if not here?

[normal pilot]

ya that's what discord is for

[lofty depot]

as stated, read the faq in the compendium

[delicate perch]

here is fine, but the guide in pins is more updated when new stuff comes out and has more in depth things explained in it

[normal pilot]

but most ppl do just fine just looking at bloodmallet/wowhead/other simple resources

if they wanna delve deeper they come here and ask can find out how to get more accurate but that's kind of hte point that ppl come here while using bloodmallet/wowhead

[vital hound]

???

how

[lofty depot]

idk i think i beat the game

i have belt and boots :/

[dense steeple]

how is that belt 20k

[lofty depot]

cuz i already have it

keep up lil gup

[dense steeple]

its a 13k upgrade for me at 723

i also already have in bags

[vital hound]

saladbar belt is sick

and will be giga sit with turbo boost

[lofty depot]

oh that diffyt sim

[dense steeple]

like bro you sim for 400k more than me, and that belt is 7k more value than mine?

[lofty depot]

its better than that 🙂

funny sim lose 5k on kris, gain on other items

[vital hound]

what trinkets do you have

actually just send the sim

[lofty depot]

araz and antenna dawg

[dense steeple]

I ONLY GOT NORMAL ARAZ 🙁

[vital hound]

powerful

[scenic mist]

compendium is the guide in pins btw

[dense steeple]

caps lock

[lofty depot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kuSL7Hjb5Z8hn9bqwBqMsG

i am the loot

[vital hound]

no wonder funny number so high

[lofty depot]

weird numby not 5.9

[vital hound]

what miss %

[lofty depot]

when its clearly 5.921 over here

i dont miss bud

[vital hound]

well thats not true

[leaden birch]

wow kris + OH is only a .4% upg

[scenic mist]

@lofty depot

please

get your god damn alchemy from 97 to 100

[lofty depot]

ok i got chu

115 good enuff

[dense steeple]

not even 100

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/water-balloon-cry-boy-child-fear-gif-762280848368116975

[lofty depot]

dont worry taht 118

is good too

[scenic mist]

blud still has his stix talent setup

grow up

[lofty depot]

should read the other names

[scenic mist]

eek

[lofty depot]

talent loadout ex >

[scenic mist]

real

[lucid olive]

not giving them icons

wtf is wrong with you

[scenic mist]

i dont have time

must run

[lofty depot]

vcoidcore doesnt even sim higher

wiht 20% miss

shit trinkey

[lucid olive]

not making groups for your loadouts either

smfh

[upbeat flume]

is there any reason not to change loot role for vault, if you don't need a balance weapon or trinks?

[lofty depot]

uhhh

[lucid olive]

if you dont need weapons then go feral loot spec

[lofty depot]

yea feral has less then

[lucid olive]

the best moonkin items drop for both specs and it has no offhand and main hand in there

[craggy sonnet]

"wrong" ring seems to be the right ring all along

[lofty depot]

raid rings are piss

[scenic mist]

never used groups

looks nice tho

[lucid olive]

i do for all my characters

some are separated m+ and raid and others by hero trees

[scenic mist]

half my char have ST/m+/cleave

ggwp

[lofty depot]

thing is piss useless

[lucid olive]

a shame i cant have duplicate names though

[scenic mist]

[lucid olive]

id like to separate by hero tree in groups but have 1 in each group called m+

but can't

also cant use same icon more than once

[craggy sonnet]

dis with weap?

[lucid olive]

i've been considering just adding a .txt in Compendium with import code for Talent Loadout Ex

but i dont think enough people use it so cba

[lofty depot]

as long as this works

[craggy sonnet]

701 ..

yea then its gonna be piss

[lucid olive]

but your character doesnt have the weapon equipped?

[craggy sonnet]

only good with m voidglass weap

[lucid olive]

that part in droptimizer is just for offhands and main hands

so when it sims an offhand it sims with kris on

when it sims a main hand it sims with the crafted offhand on

when it sims a random piece it sims your equipped

[lofty depot]

hmmm

[craggy sonnet]

didnt even look at what this was actually showing

but yeah, why would it sim with mh+oh for a trinky

[lofty depot]

because the robot clearly knows it needs it for the 2set

god damn clanker

hmmmm this loks big dam

\

doesnt beat it

[craggy sonnet]

if even the clanker doesnt agree, the robot would never

[lofty depot]

this fuggn propaganda

[craggy sonnet]

what is this??

even worse than before

[lofty depot]

well its a 710 dagger with 720 oh

[craggy sonnet]

hack a myth kris in there

[lofty depot]

so the sim total looks worse

but that doesnt matter when looking at the trinket

[craggy sonnet]

it does??

trinket scales with the weap cantrip

which scales with ilvl

[lofty depot]

smh

well i dont have mythic weapon

[craggy sonnet]

trinket is way better with 723 vs 710

[lofty depot]

some of us just arent lucky :/

[craggy sonnet]

yeah, no way to sim that

right

[lofty depot]

shut up clanker

[craggy sonnet]

anyone been playing fellowship btw?

big minigamers in chat?

[lofty depot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3TNe46jbyWYZ4q4YvmTTAX

yea fuck ur propaganda

[vital hound]

no way you dont have individual boss builds

for farm

[lofty depot]

negative aura

[dense steeple]

hes buitl dif

[vital hound]

he's a feral ratatouille REROLLER

[dense steeple]

idk what any of that means

but theres a dick joke in that movie

[dense steeple]

no the other one

[lofty depot]

im gonna try and snipe the boe ring my guild has that hasnt sold

🙂

[dense steeple]

where hes telling his gf about the rat

and hes like

i got this teeny tiny little

IM GONNA SHOW YA

and she is like looking at him horrified

and then she looks down

[vital hound]

theres a ton

of adult humour in that flick

great film

have you seen the video essay on it

[dense steeple]

NO

caps lock

[vital hound]

@potent cargo did you see new bigx pic

[vital hound]

https://youtu.be/DkdokuYtsZ8

i assure you it's worth an hour

[dense steeple]

im not gonna lie

there is zero chance im watching that

like i'll watch it for a wow token

thats about it

[vital hound]

arctic will give you the 300k

[dense steeple]

money first

and i'll stream it

[vital hound]

half up front

half after

[potent cargo]

Jesus Christ this a long video lol

All I know is fuck Stuart little he the ops

[vital hound]

bro copped a new chain

[potent cargo]

I got a 10s attention span

Can’t even last a full dr cycle

[vital hound]

its fucking good

i swear

ill stake sune's reputation on it

[potent cargo]

🗣️ big ahh chain

[vital hound]

he has to take expert back and write a faq if you think its beans

[potent cargo]

Legendary

I watch on Friday

God bless Australia free day off for a footy match

[vital hound]

blessed

im on gardening leave

so we ball

[odd osprey]

Can anyone help me understand this opener sequence explanation?

• The first sentence says 'FoN 2gcds into dryad window' - is this basically explaining why fon is after ca+2x surge?
• The second sentence says 'Pool AP to spend dryad's favor in CA+FoN window' - is this about preparing this cooldown sequence, not about the sequence itself?

just trying to be really sure for the translation

[lucid olive]

The "Pool AP to spend Dryads Favor" is meant to explain the Starsurge/Wrath altnerating after the Convoke

[odd osprey]

interesting

[lucid olive]

It's not that strict after the Convoke, all that matters is you have enough AP to spend 2 Starsurges as the Dryad dies

[odd osprey]

will note that, thanks

[lucid olive]

If @jolly delta had given me a way to write little note above each icon in the sequence I would just put "pool AP for 4pc" above the Starsurge that's after Convoke

[odd osprey]

no problem with the current one though

i'd say it's more of a me problem having 1% knowledge of this spec

[lucid olive]

yeah its all good

just shout whenever you're curious about something for the translation

[odd osprey]

yep thanks

[lofty depot]

btw generally ur opener has 2 CAs which means that sequence is mostly for the 2m 1 ca sequence and not the opener

[odd osprey]

ah that's also helpful. just worded it like that since it was under the opener section - might be better to translate it into cd windows myself

[scenic mist]

this isnt the opener btw

as arctic said

opener is in pins

[odd osprey]

guess so since there isn't any boss like larodar or sth where you send the first full cd a bit time after pull

[lucid olive]

yeah it's just the CD sequence whenever you only have 1 CA

[odd osprey]

not my fault

[lucid olive]

yeah it is what it is

i could make a new box to put it in but eeeeh cba

[scenic mist]

this is the actual opener

[odd osprey]

can you please read things before blaming me for anything

[lucid olive]

nerute is working on the translate of the website ashi

[odd osprey]

i uploaded the image above because it's under the category that says openers

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

[odd osprey]

and we cool about the content

bro i don't even play this spec. i'm working for the boomkins

[scenic mist]

keep on

mb

[lucid olive]

he's the guy who translates for our korean website

which back when it was maintained was a majority of our visits

doing it all for the love of the game

[scenic mist]

korean owls

[lucid olive]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/kr/compendium

[lofty depot]

no blame just understanding

[lucid olive]

nah ashi for sure blamed him

[scenic mist]

yeah looks like korean to me

[lucid olive]

fuck that guy

french as hell

[scenic mist]

fuck me

[lofty depot]

yea fuck ashi tho

[scenic mist]

[lucid olive]

my raidleader kept looking at your dimensius kill when he was making raid plan

it's joever

we're never killing the boss

[lofty depot]

my raid lead thinks us baiting on the marker for nexus king is whats causing people to die to lazer

[odd osprey]

they really should remove the ping limit

[lucid olive]

well uuuh he could be right idk

[lofty depot]

i then show him like 10 vods of people standing on marker waiting and say no theyre shit

[odd osprey]

[scenic mist]

[lucid olive]

ranged stands middle and runs towards the edge when tank combo happens

[scenic mist]

hope he didnt copy my banger final p3 move

[lofty depot]

we tried that

they die

[lucid olive]

skrill issue

[lofty depot]

yea no shit

[lucid olive]

if your guild is standing on the outer ring on pull/after moving from blazes

they should be yelled at

[lofty depot]

ive seen guilds do that too lol

were currently baiting in center

and running between those 2 lazers on like blue and green

and orange and moon respectfully

[lucid olive]

yeah your dmg means fuck all so maximizing uptime in p1 is stupid if it causes you to bait bad beams

[lofty depot]

tahts what i said

well not about the beams

just dodge, but i meant about uptime

like stop castings start walking

[scenic mist]

roar

[lucid olive]

just overmove before tank combo happens

[scenic mist]

help your handicapped friends

[lucid olive]

don't cheat towards the edge so you bait a beam into the circle soak

[lofty depot]

we do

[lucid olive]

i think wind rush is superior for tank combo speeds

i used roar for the first tank combo and for 2nd blazes

but we had 3 shamans or something in so

busted class

i got a lil 108m crit on dimmy p3 today though

new high score

imagine with 25x cap..

[lofty depot]

111m >

[exotic perch]

yea but then what was your dmg immediately after that

[lucid olive]

mmm we dont talk about that

[scenic mist]

someone did not bark the planets falling ?

[lucid olive]

healer job

[scenic mist]

tell'em

[lucid olive]

flight form between p2 platforms feels nice though

i'm so fuckin fast

i pick up star and am still like 2nd on the platform

[exotic perch]

oh does it work now

[scenic mist]

right

[exotic perch]

cause last week you couldnt use abilities in it lol

[scenic mist]

has worked since sept12th

[lucid olive]

yeah it works, but only between the platforms

doesn't work for the initial part

[scenic mist]

yeah you just get stuck

[exotic perch]

oh lol that dumb

[scenic mist]

big rock coming right in your face

[lucid olive]

cause the RP stun xalatath puts you in can only be broken by actual mount skyriding abilities

[scenic mist]

small indie company wcyd

[craggy sonnet]

but imagine someone actually worked on that put it in the notes

and its still fucked

like ??

[scenic mist]

this is kyveza

you're mixing things up

[craggy sonnet]

my bad

[scenic mist]

nw

[craggy sonnet]

not good with names

[scenic mist]

lmao

you won

i broke rp first

[craggy sonnet]

boss position might be whats causing you to die

boss position determines order of beams

[lofty depot]

sounds liek some science that my tanks should know and that i can ignore

[craggy sonnet]

so if your bait position is setup so that whatever beam you are triggering when moving in to soak 1st

is crossing the soak position

you are fucked

[lofty depot]

i mean, just move between the 2 beams that are closest to u

[craggy sonnet]

its about the 3rd beam usually

not 2nd

[lofty depot]

i mean if u get first conq here

[craggy sonnet]

if the 3rd beam is the one across from where you are soaking

[lofty depot]

we run between those 2 dragons

very shrimple

[craggy sonnet]

that one can run straight through the soak circle

hm aight

you do you

either way order of dwagon pewpew is based on boss proximity

so closest 1st etc

not sure if that helps

[lofty depot]

uhh idk i tell tank surely

is that the only 1 taht is determined by range

i dont have a problem dodging

i have brain

[craggy sonnet]

no every dwagon is ordered by proximity

afaik

so depending on where boss is

different dwagons shoot earlier or later

but only the first 3 actually matter

for the soak usually

[safe egret]

is there a discord like this for dk? i'm trying out new classes when i dont have my group

[craggy sonnet]

there is one for every class

[mighty mica]

https://www.wowhead.com/discord-servers

[craggy sonnet]

i was just googling that, way too slow

[dense steeple]

dont expect them to be good

[craggy sonnet]

?

dk is good fwiw

[safe egret]

not that it really matters, but dk is good right? lol

i like that i just follow procs in dps and no real rotation, if yall have other suggestions lmk

[lofty depot]

is good yes

suppose u should ask them tho

[safe egret]

yeah i gotchu, was wondering why the dude said that then

[odd osprey]

what is a fungal growth?

[lofty depot]

the dot

[lucid olive]

it's the name of the DoT from Wild Mushroom

idk why it doesn't show anymore lol

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=81281/fungal-growth

[odd osprey]

if this is the thing we gotta fix the spelldata json

yeah 81281

[lucid olive]

yeah i'm doing it

[lucid olive]

sent update

[odd osprey]

nice

[craggy sonnet]

you mean the discord or the class? i think soma meant class discords in general. but for dk, both the class (dps at least) and discord is very good

[dense steeple]

fractillus bad boss design

6 pull boss ez

[exotic perch]

it is literally stare at the weakaura boss

[safe egret]

i was asking if the class was good, maybe they had meant the discord i'm unsure

but it doesnt matter, all good

thanks a lot for the help

[dense steeple]

yeah i was shocked with how it just fell over

[craggy sonnet]

boss design aint "that" bad

its just bad because of WA

[dense steeple]

wa bosses are bad bosses

but that one was just a WA boss with nothing going on

[craggy sonnet]

yea, well .. delete the WA then

have fun

🙂

[dense steeple]

might as well

i was in my place before RL said my name and marker

[craggy sonnet]

your RL is calling out markers 😮

[dense steeple]

he plays the afk monk healer

it gives him something to do

[craggy sonnet]

only things our RL usually has to call is "care for tank walls on XYZ" and "stack for breaks"

but i guess it cant hurt

[dense steeple]

i missed like 2 treant casts tho

so i lost a ton of dam

but w/e

vault

[odd osprey]

so i assume this is purely theoretical?

EC ST and you don't take lunar calling so that you're entering solar eclipse

or is that a very niche situation that needs to be considered fitting sometimes

also about this part in EC ST compared to entering eclipse in KotG; am I right to assume that EC just want to cast a few more starfire instead of starting to cast wrath at the end of the current eclipse?

[upper anvil]

yo for vaults, if you kill say plexis and soulbinder can you get loom loot from vault?

[odd osprey]

it's possible. i got my myth antenna that way before even killing loomithar

[upper anvil]

guild trying to argue with me about the vault for mythic

we're betting gold on it, id like to be right

[odd osprey]

well i'm quite sure it's been at least a few expansion

the idea was to block players from sniping certain drop by only killing certain bosses

but with the current vault all the previous bosses are included and that's why you can get loomithar drop

[lucid olive]

ye

[lucid olive]

yes

killing soulbinder can get you antenna in vault

[odd osprey]

cool!

and how about the next question below that one - about entering eclipse in ec st

[upper anvil]

is it sated somewhere, i want to win the goal

but all of them are disagreeing with me smh

[odd osprey]

no good in arguing with idiots you know

[lucid olive]

if you can find the blue post from dragonflight season 1 sure

thats when it was changed

[lucid olive]

idk if i understand the question

if you don't have lunar calling you enter solar eclipse on ST like you do in KOTG

[odd osprey]

in kotg you specified that it is ideal to start casting starfire when your eclipse is still on

do you do the same in EC ST with wrath or is it better just to keep doing the normal thing - and is this it's not included there?

[lucid olive]

yeah the same thing works for entering lunar

[odd osprey]

huh

[lucid olive]

you can precast the Wrath there too and enter Lunar with a Dreamstate

[odd osprey]

idk i might be overthinking

[lucid olive]

i just never put it in the guide really

[odd osprey]

thx for the answer again

[lofty depot]

its also a thing about saving dreamstate stacks

because of how much more damage starfire does now

so keeping those stacks in cds is pretty big

[odd osprey]

makes sense

so you'd want to throw that one dreamstated amp'd starfire in the next eclipse?

by start casting wrath at the very end of eclipse if that's possible

[lucid olive]

ye

[odd osprey]

noted. all good now

[lofty depot]

its also a bit about not entering eclipse prior to pressing cds

cuz it'll use a stack, so keeping 2 into incarn good

[dense steeple]

i knocked out 3k just now finally

i hate keys

[eager raft]

gj soma

[dense steeple]

thanks buddy

big 2 chest ecodome 13

||i did zero dam||

the important thing is the +1 mount

[upper anvil]

i found the blog post 💀

[copper locust]

is it worth taking Umbral Inspirtation or Natures balance? sims saying UI but performance wise NB gives me quicker up tiem for starfall and AP generation

M+ wise

[lucid olive]

NB not very good

Starfire does more dam than Starfall

[leaden birch]

my guild just gave 1 of our WW monks myth antenna over me

sadge

[lofty depot]

shouldve simmed no miss

[cloud lion]

Welcome to reality my guild gave jug to healer over me last tier

Still didnt see antenna on nm hc and mythic

[leaden birch]

same

literally have been passed over on antenna for other people

[cloud lion]

Last week got mythic hunters boots cuz there were monk and me as leather dps

[leaden birch]

best part? this monk already has normal antenna

[cloud lion]

And we got 2

[dense steeple]

idk if you guy are aware

but boomy is the worst spec in the game

and everyone wants an antenna

[cloud lion]

Cant wait to get to work and dont loot antenna in vault

[leaden birch]

this guild is not that hardcore to care about best specs in the game lmao

considering it's really just between me and my buddy who are top parse on every fight

[cloud lion]

Yes, that is why i wasnt priority and at the end im on every boss

[dense steeple]

ez vault fill

[cloud lion]

I feel putting boomie on dimensius is troll

[lofty depot]

its not troll

[cloud lion]

We dont do dmg to those adds

[lofty depot]

so what

tell the other rats to pad

[cloud lion]

And do t do dmg outside cds

Dont

[lofty depot]

yea but u cd platform

big dam to add

[cloud lion]

We will see how it will work

But i would not be surprised if im sitting

We have resto feral and boomie for buff

[lofty depot]

like feral does damage to the adds

lol

[glacial spindle]

got some haste/mastery myth track bracers in vault currently using crafted wep + embelish bracers. taking and crafting a belt with embelishment?

[lofty depot]

sim it?

[lucid olive]

it depends on your level of guild

there are guilds in top 50 who played moonkin it doesn't matter that much

you do good boss damage p1, solid damage to artoshion on platform and insane boss dmg in amp in p3

on 2nd platform you're deadweight

[lofty depot]

thats what arcane mages are for 😛

[night gulch]

i did 7mil dps in p3 and thats with my cds being fucked for platforms, boomkin does ok, it just does bad on the adds

[lucid olive]

you didn't have both CA charges going into p3 huh

[night gulch]

correct

[lucid olive]

unfortunate

[night gulch]

our pargoth damage was real bad

so i was told to send a charge

felt real bad

[lucid olive]

i'm just doing the recruitie strat

[night gulch]

he blasted

[lucid olive]

sending double ca pull, 1st platform and during amp

[night gulch]

not the worst strat

that was my original strat

[lucid olive]

end up holding dps in p1 anyway usually

[night gulch]

but damage became a problem

oh you also mean holding at 2mins?

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-gif-14148362097791667095

[night gulch]

i could see that being good, i ended up just sending it

[lucid olive]

yes thats how you have double ca on 1st platform

[night gulch]

since you lose a convoke

[lucid olive]

the convoke doesnt do that much dam

basically trading 2 mini bursts for 1 mega burst

[night gulch]

yeah, our artoshion damage wasn't bad so i wouldn't have gotten any value out of it, not that was i getting value out of having to hold dps in p1 anyway

[lucid olive]

i can also send on pargoth platform if its needed but on a kill pull it probably isnt

[night gulch]

i ended up doing single ca on pargoth, single amp then holding for double during p3 didn't seem like the worst but i def got lucky with crits during damage amp

[lucid olive]

yeah its probably not bad

i got double 108m crits in the amp

but we still need to figure out p3 fully

we're behind this tier cause we hard inted nexus king

[night gulch]

double crits are huge, p3 is pretty hard, especially towards the end

you just run out of room and the orbs rotate, casting gets super cursed

and we did the same on nexus lol

[lucid olive]

yeah

[night gulch]

we made up for it with some extra days ig

[lucid olive]

good thing moonkin does zero dps outside of CDs

[night gulch]

true

[lucid olive]

and you can do your entire CD window without moving

[night gulch]

i sent my shit at the worst time

i sent double ca during a toes soak lol, less than ideal timing

[cloud lion]

Probably not as bad as we did

We didnt see p3 for a while than raid leader decided to bench some players and boss died

[lucid olive]

uhhh idk we fell like 50 ranks on that fight

241 pulls

[cloud lion]

60 ranks

Hunters and nexus

My vault is a troll

Last week got all shoulders

Now legs

But also alpha ring

[vital hound]

@lucid olive

[lucid olive]

big

[cloud lion]

How the fuck to get stupid antenna

[night gulch]

get lucky in vault

[cloud lion]

That aint happening

[night gulch]

gaslight your raid leader into giving it to you

[cloud lion]

We cant drop it

[drifting nova]

whats that addon

[lucid olive]

Talent Loadout Ex

[river galleon]

Was about to craft belt this week. Will go for crafted neck or ring then. Have they already confirmed "incoming" nerfs for 701 delves belt or there are only rumors?

[drifting nova]

wait the addon bricks the talent page

[lofty depot]

they did confirm it

[river galleon]

turbo boost patch, right?

[lofty depot]

uhh sure

11.2.5

oct 7

[river galleon]

tyvm, sir.

[drifting nova]

another week another neck

[gray pulsar]

"Third time's the charm. Maybe the player will pick the mace this time". thx blizz

[ionic surge]

100% guarantee if you pick mace you get dagger next week

[livid jay]

i once had problems with talentloadoutsex and started using a different addon that has the same purpose and its been working fine since then

its like TalentTreeTweaks or soemthing + a loadout addon from the same guy

[drifting nova]

half the time it cuts off the left side eh

cba reimporting trees

[digital cape]

710 priory or ritual forge what do u guys think

[vital hound]

@obsidian jetty you were right

kotg m+ op

[vital hound]

forge

[lofty depot]

lol

where was that damage a few days ago?

my guild gonna have to find some damage man

cuz that numby gonna be 100m soon

[obsidian jetty]

yea, and it's more fun. Less moonfires, big burst, good st.

[drifting nova]

sub me in

[wicked shuttle]

Op lol

[vital hound]

fr

[vital hound]

i straight owned

[vital hound]

was playing ec

[wicked shuttle]

Bro your shaman lost to the tank

https://tenor.com/view/wheelchair-block-gif-9847971111409235223

You:

[wicked shuttle]

When is gary yeet gonna battle dimmy

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/kyDAu9zHqWq.gif

[lofty depot]

when nexus king gets nerfed again

or my guild dies and i joined a hof guild

[pallid bay]

could have just said never..

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-food-eating-cat-eating-gif-1320502635529344444

[livid jay]

wtf are you doing

sending into titan?

[safe turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-my-attention-mike-mclusky-mayor-of-kingstown-you've-piqued-my-interest-paramount-plus-gif-4843842176959299815

Been waiting to try kotg in m+

[livid jay]

your fdk's seem to be animals

and im surging the goddamn titan

useless spec

[lofty depot]

to see prog yes

i mena, half the raid is dead lol

[livid jay]

yea ok if people are dead sending is valid 😄

we needed some rebalancing of our groups until we could kill both titans reliably even with all alive

[spring lodge]

addon name?

[vital hound]

hekili

[lofty depot]

[vital hound]

addon name?

[mighty mica]

pawn

[vital hound]

[fringe estuary]

Got a mythic chest, paired with a 723 Parapodia. What would you take? is Astral atenna nerfed yet? im simming better with the Anub akaj crystal.

[delicate perch]

link sim

[potent cargo]

[dire osprey]

maybe if antenna is hc

[fringe estuary]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rojL9jQWyBhRymqfyv2xZY

does that work?

[dire osprey]

5 targ

[fringe estuary]

ive tried several patchwork iterations, 2-3-4-5 mins. and i believe crystal on top.