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what i used as resto in season 2 lmfao
well
u also have the wrong stats
yes ik
im fixing it
ur also using a haste ring
also depths is no longer what u use
u also didnt check this
also change that to latest
anyway
im going to sleep, have fun with this in about an hour
i assumed so, which is why i sent pictures and ran it for u
assuming u dont have 16m iterations
just wondering if KOG would be good in M+? since i can multi and single target
try it out, but doing zdps outside of cds doesnt sound fun
🤣 gotcha. Also any tips on WA or addon for a fellow boomy haha
oibalance, in compendium
what is the new weapon enchant btw ? i dont see in pin or compendium
1 one of the 3 stats?
hello fellas, im back with druid after 2 seasons, i see a good combos with Staff and one hand + trinket, my question is, its not better offhand with asc + dagger and trinket? cusa i see on compendium they suggest a craft a staff. any can fast explain please ?
its not new, u just use one of the secondary stat ones
guile or stonebound i have found to be he best
stonebound being good for both st and aoe, i just use it
perf
the void trinket used to not be good
apparently got buffed
the oh is only good if u know u can get the myth main hand
otherwise u craft staff
its also, crest efficient early in the season to craft staff, so most people should craft staff first
umh. ok y yeah thats a good reason xD
ty, i just think causa i got the main hand on nm and the trinket on Hc, but yeah
oh + mh requires 120 gilded to get to 720 and 723
staff is the total stats of 2 items and only takes 60 gilded
yea just cuz a funny bis list says voidglass kris is bis
doesnt mean the normal or heroic version of that item is
yeah for start i agree on 2 hand craf its better, thnx
for ur knowledge, in raid we use different stats to minmax than m+.. u can use mastery + haste for a little less damage in raid
but its better in m+
most of us just swap neck and rings
surely i get voidglass spire to drop next week :/
ight actually going to sleep 🙂
surely not
Mans capping
he in fact did not go to sleep
Is Voidglass Spire on Myth better than craft staff + embelishments ?
Surely you mean spire+embels vs crafted staff+embels
And yes these special weapons just do so much damage
Thanks for the info.
Simmed them at the start of the season and they were a dps loss for me.
Maybe need to start simming them again.
Start of the season, had you already crafted the staff, would indeed have been voidglass+1embel vs staff+embels
Might have been tightier
But now with 4th spark it’s more straight forward
Ideally you’d get kriss+crafted oh tho
Not sure if this is the right place, if not, my bad. Let me know and I'll post in the correct place.
I need some feedback on what I'm doing wrong.
Currently, I have got 714 ilvl, I feel I do ok in m+ but deffo have prio'd mastery then haste in my gear, am currently trying to pick up a little bit of crit and reduce haste a little bit to hope that helps improve my dps.
I seem to really struggle on rights where I have to move and some of my timings are off. Sometimes it feels like I'm hitting like a wet noodle, I want to say I'm good at keeping sunfire & moonfire up.
Here's a latest log from hc last night if anyone can spot anything obvious.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hqjtYAVg6nPkJHMK?type=damage-done&boss=-2&difficulty=0
Trying to ignore that ilvl parse being grey accross the board, just feels like I'm doing something drastically wrong.
I enjoy boomie, I just feel sometimes I'm lacking the boom.
well you're lacking an on-use trinket
you're also lacking an understanding of how your tierset works
and how to do effective damage
this is quite pointless
18 mil burst opener
nerf this spec man
They changed uhdk and demolock less than 2 expansions ago for this 
How do you push adds to the hole in mythic araz? Any specific timing?
Do you know if other classes can do it?
Boomie too far from bottom in pure ST, 8% aura nerf inbound
yes
hunter/mage/evoker
any1 with a decent knock
Sham?
Druid does have lower CD on knockback tho
sham is prob too aggressive of a knock
it shots mobs in all directions

or well feels like it anyway
just run behind the void tear these days
we just used druids and hunters mostly
can also run behind yea but melee prob start whining
Thanks, will swap signet back in to my gear set.
Damn, I didn't think my opener was usually that bad/unorganised but as you have shown it is awful. Clearly I need to work on it.
Do I send my Fury of Elune on CD regardless of how many Gathering Moonlights stacks i have, or do I sit on it untill i have 6 stacks?
send on CD
in lfr can you roll need on an item you already have the same of?
Depends. If its exactly the same item then only if it rolls a tertiary
you're not supposed to be able to but theres some weird shit that happens
You can roll on leech trinket if u have the same one without
Hi guys! I have noobish question: should I use starsurge or starfall on 2 mobs in m+?
for example you have 2 mobs in the pack which survives longer then others
hi dont mind entertaining myy weird questions im running simC~
so i noticed having astra with para is better than lily with para?
For one your sim is weird as fuck
16m dps means ur simming something like 5 targets 5 minutes which isnt a very reliable sim
But also double passive trinket is good for elunes chosen
Thats single targit

Bamkin is just that strong
i unironically am a big fan of number squishes
im not part of the big number = fun group
so usually what would u sim with for a much accurate data?
500 crit 
i get same dopamine from 500-1000 as 500k-100k, just bigger number pointless
Bigger is better
your dopamine receptors are broke get them serviced
Same
Like what's the dif between 10m and 10b gotta abbreviate those numbers anyway
But 100 and 100000 big dif
Lots of 0s
wouldnt have to squish every xpac if they paced ilvl brackets like humans

(yes delete lfr)
ST 30 seconds
yo - any good m+ balance druid streamers?
If bearform would save you then you should bearform
did you and your group use defensives properly
did anything go wrong during the boss
did you pull divers and forgot to kick
in general its good to prevent yourself from dying in the capacity possible in order to time the key
both coulda pressed ur defensives to live the only thing that hurt
Is there a good way to sim for M+ pulls to see best rotation?
lose uptime tho
hps issue
While the healer likely could have played it better as well.. trying to help out and prevent yourself from dying is always a good idea
100% chance you could've helped more, healer is a crybaby though
also no coms keystones is mental illness
And this boss do be hard for most healer specs
So for the sets you do not have bark for, popping into bear and getting 1-2 frenzied ticks in is very reasonable to consider
that boss is fucking shit
You don't look at the rotation sample in the sim no.
Oh, how are you supposed to use sims for rotation then?
U arent
Go look at the prio list and put it into practice either on some target dummies or in some random key 10. Log the key and then post the log and we can run down what ur doing wrong
This is a log from yesterday, it would be brilliant if you could have a look - i think i actually did pretty decently here but just feel im not doing as much as I should be: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aXvq8Pw4QZTFKymz?fight=7&type=damage-done&source=186
Depending what he pulled, this is no whear near enough adds dotted
Add that unless ur sure you're keeping dreamstate stacks with those wrath casts I just wouldn't do it
Then you foe before incarn
Then press incarn on the Starfall press
Then u generally have dreamstate stacks so u cast 1-2 starfires, and woe (as u did)
Ur only getting 8 starfires in your incarn
That's 3 less than you should
- You don't need to enter eclipse before pressing incarn. You're wasting dreamstate stacks
- You don't have foe for that incarn because you're not pressing enough starfires in your CDs presumably
Sent foe at the end of a pack, now dont have it for next
Again, (I assume most people aren't precasting properly so I bring it up) but there's not a 2 mob pull in this dungeon so u likely aren't dotting enough
And then again yea it'll just be a recurring thing.
Seems like ur sunfiring too early and should be moonfiring until they're stacked
Thanks thats actually great
This whole minute sequence
Like idk what's going on cuz I'm not watching the replay, but a lot of just spamming dots and doing no damage
Yeah I think I panick during movement quite a bit and just recast dots
Casted 8 starfires in 45 seconds
On avg in those pictures u casted 2 starfires an eclipse
:S
That's just giga bad
takeaways are - moonfire before sunfire, sort out my pull rotation (moonfire, sunfire, foe>incarn>starfall>sfwithdream>starfall>into rotation) and just cast starfire a whole lot more?
Just looks like mismanagement of your resources
and actually dot things
You tend to panic when you have to dodge and instead of having something to cast you end up spamming dots for those gcds
yeah
This is ur opener on first boss
Main point.
Dot him before sending your damage.
Think it's a misunderstanding of where your damage comes from
Should read your mastery and hero talents. Dotting important, foe increases damage done, Starfire biggest damage dealer
Out of interest - is keeper of the grove better for bursty pulls in lower keys?
Nexus
Lower keys u can play w.e. u want
Are you in or bench angel
But keeper does zdps outside of cds
I'm never benched

We 600+, why bench ur best player
Yea but my ass spec is better than the 14 other DPS regardless
Play with people that don't have hands >
Huge for both bamkin and resto
Same
Luckily my resto doesnt need anything besides that
So i will be just picking off spec gear in vault
Well I'm not even like top 3 for the dagger
If i dont have any of those to pick
So life is hard
I think im up there
And we haven't seen 1 drop in 3 or 4 kills
I think maybe 3-4 need it
Easy loot
Do you remember off the top off your head when is the last convoke in the 2x ca - ca - 2x ca
Lol, time to change staff stats and enchant and gain 30k DPS randomly
What do u mean
Is it at like 4:30
Yea cuz that's when amp is
Nah i mean on patchwerk
Oh, depends what iteration u get
Our kill was 4:20(blaze it) but i think we 2 heal next week
Cuz 20% diffy
So probably only 2 convoke angel or
Potent uses it at like 420-430
If it goes even shorter
But if u get a 4m sim it fucks
Ye assuming it doesnt die even quicker
If u have a 4m kill time u do double double
And it should if we dont have deaths
And send CA convoke ca at like 330
just run a sim with fixed time
I got benched this week, they were scared of bamkin topping dam i think
it should spit out reasonable seq
Whoa, hold on
(probably)(maybe)
They hate us
so you went ahead to put yourself on soulbinder but didnt ask whether you would even get the staff?
unlucky
I thought it was a given that i get it...
They scammazed me
Skill issue
exciting killtimers
I hate nexus btw 🙂
Yes
Gg
We only got to laser lineup 3 times
Think right there you just save 2nd convoke for add set and 3rd on CD correct me if I’m wrong
I think nexus king is a fun fight
we're just extremely useless for the way it's designed
that's all
Maybe it’s just prog rn; all 60 pulls have been P1 lmao
sim would send 2-2 apparently
Is that normal
Useless if u mean platform damage
that's normal
cant remember if i just did that to streamline
I wouldn't send cd's on platform
or its actually better
Ill likely send CDs on platform for prog til u consistently get to amp
But yea u generally don't send
2x ca -> 1x ca before beams/porting -> no cd's on platform -> double ca + pot in dps boost -> w.e.
Ye
Instead of using before platforms?
Just to get add phase down faster for prog
Yessem, it's called seeing prog
Yea
Depends if u have dps issues on platforms
Likely will pot and send CDs cuz monkeys die too often
Then slowly move the damage off
But another week of vault/gear I don’t think we have. A problem
DPS issues on platform for us were ironed out after 2/3 pulls in intermis
without dps buff
But yeah early on you probably will be wiping to titan exploding
Comp dependant though
ye
Mages are crazy there
but thats probably a forge only thing
because the CA without forge is just beans

Yea dawg like 300 pull boss
Gonna have to lock in bud
bamkin is alright on nexus now no?
yeah it's fine
you are uselss on platform damge
but that doesn't really affect much
It's fine, don't need to bear form everything
Live soak natty, just bark a bad lineup with debuff + claw
Yea I only had to bear when 1-2 healers were deadge
Regrowth maybe
Health pot first bark 2nd regrowth +lock stone third should be find
You don't really have to bear invoke the oath either anymore
I still do it for safety
but yea
Need to test again, but think u can live solo tank soak with ursine + regrowth + bark
the fight is not super dangerous anymore
debuff+claw?
Ye
nah you don't have to pop shit for claws
u can’t get banishment and claw together
Sure
only if overlap with other claw you do something crazy defensive wise
you can also cancel the animation mid claw
just walk out
I just yell for ealers to eal
I send bark cuz monkeys overlap
Always works in my favour
I played both but liked bamkin more
Ew
But i think im just too dumb for feral
Grow up
Blow up
U can however have banishment and get sniped by a claw
Yea I always tried to position myself trailing boss to avoid baiting beam on soak position but no on top of melee
Tried; I prolly fucked up a lot
But we call that learning
yeah if you get hit by a claw while having banishment you're prob standing around greeding casts
I do be greeding casts
That 2nd treants when claws come out I always greed
Catch me wrathing in between 3 claws idc
Nah I roar the soak timing
Are you 3 healing
Not currently
We tried both
Not much reason to 3 heal these days
If we kill before October I'll be surprised
Oh so am I coping thinking it’s dead next Thursday
Yes
No shot or, its not that hard
Unless ur extending Tues/wed/Thursday
No 1 more reclear I think
P1 is hard for sure but when you get to p3 it really goes fast
Which I think we need 2-3 more but
But people can grief arrows and smashes
No point not to lock out atm imo
Just gotta make sure people know where to go with smashes, how far to spread out
People die to the same Lazer at 1m for 60 pulls I can't man
And how to play starseekers
Fuggn tswift all over again
If people are consistently dying at the same spot maybe baits are bad
We killed it 3 times and still have 6 wipes to people dying in p1 
Just run past it dawg holy
Maybe they're bad
And greeding cast
Arent we all bad
No
Bad boys
Are you playing cosmos?
Ye
Helps if u get first conq on pull
But didn't feel all that great
What is cosmos
Free surge/starfall from wrath/starfire
And just go full St on platforms?
you could just delay right
i think so at least but i did like 3 pulls as boomie
so you convoke while running
Never delay
maybe u dont have for amp
it'd be like 12s delay or something i think
I think so
So should be up regardless
might not have time to send the convoke on the dragon in 1st intermission?
2 or 4 set?
you want 4 lol
guys I want to craft a ring, the haste/vers ring sims minimaly (0.1%) higher than haste/mastery, which one should I craft to maybe also stay flexible in the future? 🤔
What if the mastery vers one sim higher
it doesnt
Link sim
Oh, we're simming ec
Depends on what youre siming for and the content youre wanting to "main" and the content you're wanting to flex
I mean ur simming both rings and not 1
Youre also simming both rings. You should only be simming 1 because you wont have both
mainly m+ i think, im also not too informed on everything
Put 1 spark in your total at the top
but when looking at the options below the haste/vers one is above all the other options where i only use one crafted, so cant i choose that one?
Also, sim stonebound enchant not depths
I mean u can take haste vers, just seems odd
It really comes down to the sim, but overall your mastery will benefit you the most in both M+ and raid. So I'd say thats the biggest flex stat.
the difference doesnt seem big, so maybe i just take haste/mastery?
But also your "best" ring in the sim is going to differ based on your spec and your target count.
If youre mostly doing M+ id just do haste/mastery then just get a different ring to switch out if you decide to raid
ok ty 🙂
on archon i see that most people take radiant power though, what does that depend on?
At all really
oh i see
Its also old data
i mean i always sim before but i get it
So not only useless, but old useless
The worst kind of useless 
so should i also sim the enchant?
alright thanks
Hi me again!! Need some advise understand I’m suppose to cast sunfire and moon fire to all ads. But sometimes I struggle placing all moon fire on them and I would reduce my DPS by a crazy amount to catch up . would yall ensure to moon fire every mob? And is there an easier way for me to track if the whole pack has been DOT by moon and sun?
If they live long enough u should be dotting them
Is there a tip or advise on clocking all my moon and sun on them? Sometimes I lost track LOL kinda stupid but yea tryna get used to it
gotta make sure you have a good way of seeing your dots on the nameplates
for some, they just track it via icons
maybe have them placed in a better position
some like to have their nameplates / the name text / border change color based on if the mob is dotted
there are plenty of plater profiles out there that you can choose from. and plenty of separate mods you can find on wago as well
Ahhh is there a current plate u use for your boomy? That sounds legit
Currently my plater only tells me which to standby kicks
You have eyes?
Hi all, need your help here.
i have added a sim for my druid, i need your valuated help with choosing the right gems for my sockets.
the sim told me to use only quick onyx but its not only about dmg in real gameplay.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hZjAhAaKyeg1UE7jiQkvKv
please find a time to go over it and help me out 🙂 much appreciated. Dean.
when do you ever fight 5 bosses for 2 minutes
will do and get bacl withr results thanks
i mean u should choose idk any gems
pick everything?
welll u ran a sim
for the sim
and picked 2
so like the difference between 2
and any
add the problem that ur simming 5t 2m
simming weekly not latest
not checking boxes
i can choose only 13 gems even with an account
will see what top players use and ill add all of them
thanks for the guidance will be back with answers
just click the mastery ones
@wicked shuttle wowhead guide appears to be down
surely
unlucky banned by wowhead?
isp banned wowhead
must be serbian
Honestly a blessing in disguise wowhead is a plague these days
Looking through logs, I've seen many people able to line up a CA - Convoke - CA window at around the 4 min mark in fights. I haven't been able to reproduce that. Anyone have any suggestions?
Check your talents

speak on that
He said what he said
Ads on ads, dogshit takes in the comments from terrible players who think they could win the m+ invitional or awc, more ads, click bait articles that link to other click bait articles
Don't forget half guide writers only look at their guide for approximately 10 minutes per season
So as bugs get fixed or things change the guide is just wrong for 90% of the season
If you expect some god-tier journalism and an echo chamber where people voice their different opinions wowhead is not for you, mate. Site is not perfect, far from it, but the guide writers are doing a good job for such a complex game.
"complex game"
It's complex in how shit the coding is for sure
I was literally asked my opinion i never claimed i expected anything better
most of the writers are good, definitely not all of them doing a good job
the owners of wowhead are shit
but WoW is a very small game so it makes sense why its run like that
to maximize profits
How difficult would it be to change the APL to support 1 min convoke? I was just curious how it would do with the shorter opener but it still only uses convoke every 2 minutes during CA
the structures of their class guide pages suck too
uuuh with all the KOTG_ST apl changes its probably more hassle than its worth
but you coudl disable that one and run the old season 2 apl and itd work ish
Hmm... I was just thinking if short convoke could still fill the first CA and get 1 second less of Araz decay
But it might not be significant enough to put effort into it
what if you don't use trinket until end of first dryad

For M+, should I ever aim for more haste than mastery?
if the robot says so yes
Multi million dollar revenue tencent slop posting
Only good thing is the guide writers
and definitely not all of them
there are some stinker class guides on there
I hope arctics having a good day man.
Ur the only one
lol anytime arctic says anything, atleast we know to ignore it
You're a great raider and an even better person
Always nice to see such sad little people get some joy from the virtual reality when their real life is so sad
@teal sphinx got one for the sheet
oh wait thats you
nvm
Nice
Anywhere got a good list of trinket rankings for M+ as compared to raid? As not sure how to sim M+ best in raidbots.
I'm currently running antenna and delve essence gorger trinket. But I have Lilly, Empowering crystal, and So'leah's to use at alternatives.
FAQ in compendium
Ty, just read that bit. Trying a rough patchwerk 5 bosses, 1 minute sim to check in the interim.

actually just pure slop website
icyveins does revenue sharing of ads with their guide writers
wowhead just out here taking advantange of everyone
lol
thats mint
@potent cargo how much did you get paid for the maxroll ai slop
did it for free just to fuck with the community 

well it would be in the game not 3rd party so...
should be fine if that kind of addon was possible
turns out an addon is tos (automatically applying for groups) but the script prior to the addon works now is why I was wondering

lul
blizzard says they block it but they just dont
wonder how close the automaticrolecheck is to that
it's crucial to understand that creating a fully automated addon that signs up for groups without any user interaction (like a button click) is against World of Warcraft's Terms of Service and is prevented by the game's API.
so that was a lie
yeah in the past I remember even autohotkey being marketed as allowed if it was setup so that you have to manually atleast move your mouse or anything for the script to do things
at the very least
but its impossible to know if it is setup like that for them
yep
increase from 5? why so i can sit queued for 10 dungeons for 5 minutes straight instead? no thanks
yeah so instead i sit in waitlist for double the amount of dungeons for 5 minutes. basic maths 
it'd actually be fine at 5 if declines happened more often
but waitlisting for an expire
is dumb
mechanically
i dont sdisagree
but you know for a fact blizzards stance will be "thats a people failure not a game failure"
does boomkin care about DR with mastery? had a friend ask and didnt know the answer ? id assume not cuz all the logs say boomy is sitting at 23k-24k and thats like 3k over DR
no
the short answer is to sim your character and not worry about DR as anything other than a fun tidbit
right thats what i said just wanted to make sure 😄
"lol silly spec gains more dam by going into 3rd DR!!" is about the extent you should consider it
DR is for blizz devs, not for players
it's so when some random item dev makes some grossly overpowered item the class devs don't get fucked
like every spec goes into the 3rd one
you used to have situations where item dev would make X without ever considering what impact it woudl ahve on classes
and then the class devs would have to deal with that
so now htey put in DR to basically curb their own bad impulses
lol
read the thread last night of why interrupts arent baseline
really makes you think
didnt think you could do that
How fun would be for lremix for balance druid ?
thats my favorite cause like
idk just reopen the closed tab

can't do.. im at work and my kid is in the tumbler and my dog ran away but i can offer you a picture of my screen displaying the sim
little if true
so do anyone of you know how strong a "full moon" boomkin build is?
not strong enough for anyone to try cook it
I've just witnessed first hand a company somehow worse than blizzard at taking my money
a true spectacle
which one
niantic far worse
you guys dont even know
bought reg fifa, wanted to upgrade bc reg isnt out for a week
niantic wishes it was other mobile game companies
they literally wont upgrade me until it clears processing
and wont take 21 more
FOR it

i put like 8k into a mobile game over the last 2 years before finally giving into the light
I mean yea the legit gacha are pretty bad, but niatnic are disgustingly bad at not cooking every "event" and just being like haha sorry guys we forgot 
which one 
an hour later
whiteout survival
I mean you already lost to EA when you bought fifa lol
is that the ad game where the person survives in the ice from the bear 
it fucking is 
and lemme HIT THE BALL
yeah but the game isnt like that in the slightest
its amazing how bad the false advertising is
yeah no shit 
fuck if I know when EAs bank will process it
all the packs are hte same, all the stats, the gear, he buffs
just a slightly dif skin
i started for the friendly wood chopping
played a game once long ago called evony, that advert is my gold standard for not matcing the game
got stuck in a leadership role and played for the people after 2 months
was trapped for 2 years
can I introduce you to this instead
run escape
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
powerful



ive recently picked up no mans sky
and ima be honest
whatever people bitched about 9 years ago?
complete turn around. a company that has been workign their ass off for support
this game is fun as fuck
how is gury of elune and full moon "reduced dmg to secondary targets, calculated?

vibes
Regret buying that spiritpack..... Looks so cool but then I look like a dingus when i go into moonkin... 🙁
the primary target gets no DR tho
moons / foe you basically treat as single target spells with some minor tickling
unrestrict full moons damage dropoff

the call of the stars is calling
full moon ec
moon or starfire?
find out next week
starfall should extent stellar flare 🙁
how big is damage difference between the 2 different mushroom talents?
theres a second talent?
lol
Wild mushrooms is a damage loss global
You lose more damage pressing the global than taking it and not pressing it
you "infect" a target that explodes after 1 sec
Yes
surprised they didnt put the 2buttons back in
double jank is nice but what about triple
dps loss and more buttons
Was like a singular week pretty epic
good times.. good times
what's up with mages and not killing fish sticks man 
must. target. giants !!
how's denizen/goldrinn for m+ to have some better focus damage?
i see some of the best/fastest runs use it like krona and cannexx
nope
10s for vault
anyone have a wildcharge flap macro that i can use?
i hope they buff stellar flare and stellar command :3
lily/parapodia
Is stellar flare used at all and what kind of buff would be needed?
no its not used
Question about the boots. is it better to have champion version over a heroic that doesnt buff your cloak?
Stellar Flare's power depends on the relative power of Wrath
Since it shares a node with "Wrath and Starfire crit chance increased and generates more AP"
well champion can be 704 and u dont generally upgrade hero track items to 710. sooooooooo 704 vs 704 yes theyll be better
Stellar Flare was simming better on ST in season 1, but then lost value in Season 2 because of the tier set guaranteeing Waning Twilight uptime during CA, then Wrath got a 30% buff and Flare has just been not worth taking ever since
Got ya.
I think the best scenario for Flare to be worth taking is to remove Waning Twilight as a mechanic
It would allow for DoT effects like Mushrooms and Flare to actually be tuned to do damage without leaning on being a dmg activator for some random bottom portion talent
Do you like the idea that was stated above about Starfall possibly extending the duration of?
No
just make it do 500% more damage. they did that during one of the alphas and we all used it for a week. then they nerfed it right on back
Iv never used it so just wondering. First season playing a Druid haha
lock orbital strike
that sounds less badass
it's no diff from any other spec, tons of talents are just pointless to take and never used
The same goes for our Mastery as well, a lot of moonkins core issues in raid are because the mix of Eclipse + current Mastery makes our ramp time too high whenever adds spawn that need to be prio targeted
if we got a new Mastery they could make Sunfire and Moonfire just do damage instead of being the activator for all your damage
Agree
god
szygy incarn was so sick
dragonflight preseason

gonna try it one pull and then wipe the raid so i can actually do damage
ya OS was part of the best version of balance ever
Maybe asking to much but I also wish moonfire would spread like sunfire
yea aoe dot spreads arent allowed
not gonna happen
they want to make it annoying to use
just pretend sp doesnt exist
it's intentional by design
F R I C T I O N
just plaay kotg and absolutely nuke 1 add so your healers can parse from the ticking dot
lol
yeah all timer
OS resetting FoE CD on big enough pulls
if only FoE did actual dmg and wasn't just another fucking dmg activator
thatd be so neat
stop complaining
take your terrible slop and enjoy it
I have a question regarding the new opener, casting CA 2xSS into convoke and CA again is enough time forbthe dryads fade so we press 2xSS into the second CA immediately? Or am i missing something?
the first dryad fades immediately when you hit your second CA, so you will send 2 SS's immediately
Ahh that makes sense, thank you
Just make sure you save enough AP to get your 2 surges in at the end of your 2nd CA cast ideally
dryad fades natty at 10 seconds, CA lasts 12, so you can get your 2 surges in
buff boomkin
i have 200 ping
do the 9 stack flurry thing
pull massive when you have shadow procc
press weapons
boom
get 29? or whatever flurries per shadow procc
and pull big on those
and u do obscene damage
orbit strike should just be on CA baseline, ong
hm, i thought that wasnt worth tracking, ill make a wa for it ig
should be a ton i think
search wisdom of the wall wa
brew + 18 stack netherprism + double shadow proccs is 48mil on priory paladin pull
he ended at 48
it was fucking nutty
best on use i can do is lily
it works
nice 5 key 
tracking shadow proccs is yuge
and so is the prestacking 9
can do it anywhere i believe don’t even need a dummy
just vivify
need to learn what this actually does, i think guide just says its not worth optimizing or w/e
but obv intended for newer players
wth does that mean
idk
like it’s not the greatest
and you use dream grove over others
monk just has it’s discord really
same deal as kyrasis
and still beat you
thats fucking embarassing innit
Whats the meta for delve farming
? theres a meta?
Like whats the fastest
fungal folley
there are delve internationals
this is how i want to prestack?
yes
actually
yoda put out a video
im fairly certain that number should be a 9
https://twitch.tv/yodatv - come watch me live! I stream all the time.
https://youtu.be/amJqrzHDKyA - flurry strike setup video
https://twitch.tv/yodatv - come watch me live! I stream all the time.
weakaura link: https://wago.io/JBUzJ11mf
should be a 1
so that ur next procc like double dips
and you get a free 9 extra
Can anyone help a fellow moon chicken with a log review? I’m coming back to the game after going ham on classic for awhile and trying to do higher level content. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:cCjNYtdm8prvf2Mx?fight=49
the follow up question is worse
but I wanna know how

got a drink, thought of more for the chamber
u dont need to enter eclipse
ur wasting dreamstate stacks
u have a gcd between ur starfalls because ur thinking about pressing pot and trinket
oh sweet the replay works for dungeons had no diea
think u got 4 starfires in cds
which is just giga bad
u used 2nd incarn on this
which the tank didnt pull in the first pull
does replay have a damage meter or
(I cant, I havent tried on my druid but cant on war doing much more than that)
like holy ur trolling ur cds
16
read whirling
Is there any world where it makes sense to play kotg in streets?
i am ready
dont think so
can swap some talents around
big stellar amp for mushrooms
I'll have to try that out. That key just hasn't felt right so far.
You know its a time when crazy meow doesn't play fereal and is playing monk
Ngl I've been having lots of fun as fereal
Maybe it's time to play some meta tank 🤔
How do I become good feral
scared for forge
Show me the ways. Enlightenment me
But but its crazymeow
focus on ur berserk windows first

hit esc and logout
make a dk, select frost, then go to icc
In PSF in the first area, what should I be trying to stop with roar / vortex
any room for dumb main resto druid who wants to play a boomkin sometimes questions?
^ like that
grats tho, thats a big fight
araz is cake in comparison
I got him down tonight and havent done loom rofl
thanks
hoa been fixed eyt?
@lofty pulsar @lucid olive reason for wanting stellar flare + stellar command buffed. is that with buffs to those, you are less reliant on spamming starfire.
stellar flare buff would make orbital better + stellar flare in it self.
in a build that has less power into starfire, you can prioritize other abilities more.... like full moon and wild mushrooms.
the current meta build for m+ is just: dot -> 2x wrath -> starfall -> starfire
and the dots are not even good dmg (overall), its just to boost dmg through mastery and waning twilight.
this is a problem with most hero talents. they are not balanced to make both sides of choice nodes comparable.
take lunar calling as a example. currently the only was that stellar command is even close to lunar calling, is a full spec dmg revamp.
lunation is in a similar spot, where the dmg gained from arcane affinity is way less then the dmg/resource gain from fury of elune cooldown.
psst it's an illusion of choice
well allmost all hero specs have it like that, its not rly a illusion
it's not even hero specific
hero talents are just the newer example of talent choices
and I wish mastery was obliterated and we returned to dots not just being a % vessel
the lunation one is funny though given it's a flat %
wtf are you cooking
"in a build that has less power into starfire, you can prioritize other abilities more.... like full moon and wild mushrooms."
those other abilities do 0 damage tho

in a build that has less power from just spamming generators, other abilities gain more value.
therefor, is starfire got gutted. it might result in that other talent options gain more spotlight.
stellar flare is super weak, and wild mushrooms is weak because of how strong starfire is.
so a nerf to starfire and buff to overall damage gives more options to other talent choices.
the same can be said of fury generation of fury of elune, but the combo of both of them beeing strong makes other GDC options very weak.
if starfire got weaker, it would also make full moon a more interrestingoption. since full moon takes more GCDs to use.
idk what ur tryna cook up but stop wasting ur time
this is a lot of thinking for a hypothetical
time well spent is not time wasted
how would you know how i value my time?
Having full moon be a rotational spell is not a good thing
Make it do 50m dmg
Where my splash aoe
Also I don't think buffing Stellar Command would actually change anything
I assume you'd still enter Lunar and spam Starfire just for the Lunation value
FoE is a much better spell than Moons for activating Atmos Exposure since it gives considerably better uptime
Wild Mushroom and Flare are held back because of Waning Twilight
Wild Mushroom also has a passive option that will always be better





