balance

[dense steeple]

im living the dream

[lofty depot]

Not even 716

Let alone 718

[upper anvil]

Would be 715 by now if I can get myth track good stuff in my vaults smh

[covert talon]

any recommended craft with the 4th spark? have 2h staff and bracers (embellishment)

[upper anvil]

Ye you're mom oooo

[dense steeple]

got em

[upper anvil]

Just sim crafted items

[vital hound]

@lofty depot which one

[humble mauve]

Does raidbots only select one item when it does it's sims with GV available?

[vital hound]

all three slots currently hero

sheeptwo so feelycraft

[dense steeple]

its a big ring tbh

whats the stats on bloodstained tho

[vital hound]

c v

[humble mauve]

Telling me to select this mastery/verse neck over a cata myth (original piece is veteran)

[vital hound]

i agree i think ring

[dense steeple]

id say necromancer but thats me

[upper anvil]

I also gree eith neceo

[dense steeple]

huge

[upper anvil]

I think ima craft a mast haste ring for keys. Tho shall sim it when I get home

[vital hound]

[upper anvil]

Maybe neck. But I have sin so idk

[dense steeple]

i got myth soleah in my vault again this week

||still not taking it||

[vital hound]

🫘

[lofty depot]

prob neck

[vital hound]

socket angle no?

[kind wind]

Question. So many people in top logs take fluid form but I really dont understand it's value? What is the reasoning?

[scenic mist]

shifting back to moonkin costs one less gcd

[flint venture]

Has anyone found other secondaries beating out the standard "mastery/haste" when simming? This sim is claiming going from a 710 vers/mast ring to a 723 haste/mast ring is a -0.1% dps loss in ST... https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/86i9SeEUZG3cCLxfsNeRw5

Even when I do a 3 boss sim, it only shows a 0.1% increase - https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jcktyN8AoHXb6w4myjtmwg

[vital hound]

mast hast is beans

[scenic mist]

rather than doing bear + moonkin + wrath/starfire you do bear + wrath/starfire

[lofty depot]

haste is bad

[kind wind]

Make sense

[flint venture]

Huh - good to know - might have to rethink my crafts in this case... I've been just going mast/haste all xpac

[lofty depot]

1. the default sim isnt 1t3m

2. youre simming weekly and not latest

[scenic mist]

it is 1t5m*

[lofty depot]

3. convoke damage and tierset really doesnt increase from haste

[lofty depot]

normall haste is good for us

tier set changes that

[scenic mist]

you clearly cant cast huge wraths like i do

[dense steeple]

fuck soleahs all my homies hate soleahs

[lofty depot]

u coiuldve crafted mastery + crit on a few slots last tier

[lofty depot]

whats ur sim

[scenic mist]

as fearl ?

[vital hound]

cool ring

[dense steeple]

its the bad one

[lofty depot]

also crafting belt is a choice for sure

couldve used disc belt til new patch then crafted bracer at 704

ur also not using a primary int gem

likely didnt click "always use"

so many problems

[scenic mist]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4SeMgUL19jYNdZifrnhn7X

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hvAK8pQCtKou7yC3tULHh8

[flint venture]

Yeah - belt craft was just opportunistic - was claiming it was better than the wrist. Good to know on the haste though. I put the sim at 3m since I'm just raiding heroic and our fights end up somewhere around there mostly... forgot to switch it back

[scenic mist]

mind it's still tuesday here (reset tomorrow)

[lofty depot]

i wasnt saying u were making said claim... im just trying to fix thinking for your future gearing knowledge

[flint venture]

Haha - no worries - I meant the sim was claiming 🙂 And thanks for the deets - appreciate taking the time to look!

[lofty depot]

theyve done it many times now that thye introduce an item that is just your bis forever until they nerf it

[ancient radish]

is there a way to sim the nexus prince healing trinket

[lofty depot]

well u can, but theres no apl for casting regrowth to get the buff

[ancient radish]

hm, im trying to figure out if its worth taking the trinket for dimmy M

cause it will be hard to pick up antennas

[scenic mist]

play moxie

[lofty depot]

the reason u would play that "use" that trinket isnt ethical

[ancient radish]

thats smart but i sold it lol

[scenic mist]

👀

[ancient radish]

il check but i sold it so long ago there is no way lol

[scenic mist]

diamantine/ecodome/soleah/dawn crystal/arakara trinket

[lofty depot]

u can restore from months ago

its only been 4 weeks

[teal sphinx]

what boss you on

[pseudo pawn]

this might be a really dumb question but: should i just get myth parapodia? i currently have hero araz and antenna. i'm asking cause i'm gonna get a 0.3% damage once it's 723, is there a world where i take a socket?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bQRJTS1Wao7MSjAHpPftJu

[lofty depot]

there is a world u do that yes

[crisp cove]

is there a weak aura available that puts life bloom treants and what not on my cursor so i can see when its up again

[dense steeple]

Still forgeweaver. It dies this week though. Maybe tonight

[teal sphinx]

100% dies tonight

3% damage buff

[dense steeple]

We wiped at like 6% last week with a person who subbed in not even on the raid team right now

[snow elm]

Are boomies playing two passive trinkets in m+ instead of the lily

Is this a thing

[stone ledge]

No

You want a on use for ca

Perferably lily for 130

[wind mason]

I have done 2 m+ just now and my weekly is still 0/4, wtf.

[jade flume]

Have u finished them

[wind mason]

yeah.

just asked around, happened to someone else too

[desert talon]

Are we cooking rn after the buff?

[tiny ridge]

looks like the season is already dead

[wind mason]

a lot

[tiny ridge]

we got new buff?

[stone ledge]

No they are 1 week behind

[desert talon]

At least we beat feral

[wind mason]

think about this from the good side, we are the first class to prepare for 12.0

[tiny ridge]

711 and 712 ilvl cant carry 10?

[onyx sundial]

how sim boomkin for m+? 6 targets, 1 min, no buffs?

[proper sinew]

Vibes

[daring gull]

dinars when

[glossy jungle]

MDT Sim from Wago

[static ibex]

Hello brother owls

What’s the quickest way to get the raid renown buff

How many bosses u need?

[glossy jungle]

afk lfr

[lucid olive]

if you check over a range of 2 weeks we are below feral

which means we have risen to be the best DPS druid spec

and thats all we can ask for

[dense steeple]

significantly longer than actually participating in lfr

imagine thinking being the deadweight would be faster than just doing damage

[glossy jungle]

yes but you can be watching a movie or TV instead of participating. win win scenario

[lucid olive]

you can watch a movie doing m+ too

no way you're locked in for your weeklies

[dense steeple]

this guy isnt locked in at all

[nova ocean]

If they buff us a few more times we can stop doing tank dps on soul binder

[round oracle]

had to check that and its pretty funny how top1 boomkin on soulbinder starts with 7 and every other class is 9 or 10mils

[craggy sonnet]

ethical gamers

[round oracle]

but highest tank dps on that boss starts with 6 so it was all lies

[nova ocean]

Literally impossible to pad that fight as moonkin now unless ur like paying people to not aoe

[dense steeple]

look at this guy

bragging about his prog

[tiny tendon]

I thought you'd also be 6/8 tbh

goat is washed 😔

[dense steeple]

i raid 2 days a week now

changed guilds

[tiny tendon]

join my 2 day

oh wait nobody wants double boomy

[dense steeple]

yeah im not tryna get laughed out of a guild either

[tiny tendon]

single boomy pushes it

second week in a row i skip lily

[dense steeple]

second week in a row i skipped soleah 🙂

[tiny tendon]

hell yea

I didn't have tier legs mythic

[dense steeple]

i had all 5 pieces myth track early

im slammin

[tiny tendon]

get to fix up my craft this week though, big ilvl ahead

I didn't think I'd get the fractillus dagger so quickly so I fumbled 60 crests and 2 sparks

[jade flume]

Its not fumble to craft gear for progression tbh

[dense steeple]

it is if youre in liquid and beating echos ass all expac

[worthy pond]

Guess who forgot to change their loot spec for the weekly quest

[viral onyx]

Hi All. tried searching and couldnt find it. How do I sim for M+?

Bosses (count) and timing

[normal pilot]

faq in compendium in pins

[dense steeple]

not a bad item tho

[worthy pond]

No not at all but I usually only tank on blood or VDH lol. Will have to give bear a shot this season since I have that

[vital hound]

locking in for weeklies goes kinda hard a well

5 guildies dialed in

10 minute keys

[tiny tendon]

it was like a week 3 grab though which is kinda tragic

[delicate perch]

ya I took dagger last week to use this week after crafting 2h

[viral onyx]

Opinions on which shitty trinket I should pick from?

wowhead places them both at c tier

[tiny tendon]

the socket

[viral onyx]

Thank you

[tiny tendon]

zap-cap if you need a real answer or don't want a socket

[viral onyx]

Im replacing that shitty 691 shadow damage delve trinket

[dense steeple]

just 1 shot forgeweaver pog

[viral onyx]

grats

[dense steeple]

EZ

(i died on the pull)

[tiny tendon]

this is my fractillus (I keep dying) so feel that

[dense steeple]

im sat 🙂

[tiny tendon]

are they doing frac first

[dense steeple]

yea

[tiny tendon]

tragic

would've been huge for vault

[dense steeple]

its fine

oh

its prog

feel like that is pertinent

we just recleared, and slapped forgeweaver around

for our first forge kill

[night gulch]

is it possible to cancel dryad early to get the buff earlier than it naturally expiring

[lofty depot]

pressing another ca does that

outside of that no

[night gulch]

rip

[oak bramble]

Belt was supposed to be nerfed, I just simmed a 720 craft and it's only showing a .5% upgrade. Is it possible raidbots just hasn't updated the disc belt to reflect the nerfs?

[lofty depot]

i padded fine

the nerfs arent in til 11.2.5

[oak bramble]

ffs

ty for the update

[tiny wagon]

i cant fix my parse on that pull cause i have knockback assignments

[lofty depot]

ill try to do better sorry

[tiny wagon]

fixed my frac parse tho

[lofty depot]

everyone has knockback assignments

[tiny wagon]

oh was watching a boomie pov and he got free time to dot/starfire on adds

[minor umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[lofty depot]

starfiring the adds

kek

[minor umbra]

I may be slightly inebriated

[vital hound]

dotting adds

[lofty depot]

got antenna out of heroic cache mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

thats the wrong fuggn one

[clever vigil]

yippee

[dry compass]

gz big man

my fuckin face when I bleed out during my last convoke on nexus king

[tawdry trellis]

yo... how we feel forge trinket 710 v 723 lily in M+?

[delicate perch]

padding rat @vital hound classic NA

[lofty depot]

what the

[delicate perch]

sim it but you could use your brain too

[tawdry trellis]

sim says forge... but in theory shouldn't lily be better since you're doing more pulls and get more use?

[clever vigil]

[delicate perch]

link the sim

(it'll be ragebait)

[vital hound]

what the helly

[delicate perch]

no he is

[vital hound]

o

[delicate perch]

(you probs are too )

[vital hound]

[delicate perch]

[vital hound]

[delicate perch]

wtf LOL

[vital hound]

[delicate perch]

[tawdry trellis]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/28HgePVap8hHgAdkjv7yQr

[delicate perch]

that's not a top gear sim

[vital hound]

looks like the ibitha guy

[digital berry]

second intermission araz dyign too fast and i dont have ca up for it

at least not double ca

lovely

[lofty depot]

@jade flume

the finished ilvl

[vital hound]

[tawdry trellis]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gKExPk42nt4pvKv2taxH6u

ragebait

[lofty depot]

im raging

[delicate perch]

[tawdry trellis]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2X49XkTLURB4BR1mCfANgW

latest build

[digital berry]

oh well

[lofty depot]

never lucky

[delicate perch]

@vital hound insane switch up goodbye staff

[vital hound]

wowee

[teal sphinx]

@delicate perch

why you steal my DRE procs man

[delicate perch]

[teal sphinx]

the other shaman in my guild

got 6

[safe egret]

in raids, am i supposed to be using my free regrowth when it procs or is it more just if i'm needing healing

[delicate perch]

I would suggest casting it and see how much healing it does (use it if you really want/need the dr)

[vital hound]

its nice on prog

and our damage doesnt matter outside of cds

so let it rip

[delicate perch]

ya I press it a bunch but never for actual healing

[vital hound]

ya just dr and the 5x pro

proc*

[delicate perch]

I ate a beam and lived and our warlock was like "wtf was that"

boomkin too op

[vital hound]

beam is beans now

can waltz around ezpz

i cast regrowth 181 times last sunday prog

im fkn ETHICAL

[delicate perch]

181

[vital hound]

most will be convoke tbf

but dont let facts get in the way of a good story

[delicate perch]

okay maybe I can stand to be a bit more ethical

nah that defs isn't tracking convoke surely?

[vital hound]

nfi

[delicate perch]

maybe it is and maybe I've casted it even less

ah a lot of mine are going to rats

[vital hound]

gg

[lofty depot]

@hazy storm i got new tech

lock in

[silk shard]

for a 0.6% difference between heroic ring from vault vs taking a socket, would socket just be better longterm play?

got unlucky in vault this week but the sims keep leaning in favor of the ring, but it don't feel quite right

[merry ibex]

is antenna kinda simbait if you have to move a lot for a fight

[lofty depot]

yes

[lofty depot]

u can sim the miss chnace

[delicate perch]

can be, you can look at logs and sim the miss %

[lofty depot]

just dont miss

[delicate perch]

the lion does not concern himself with chasing orbs

[silk shard]

thx boss

[shrewd gate]

Is there something I am missing with the Cloak proc? I am currently seeing multiple people with 70+ million dmg with it and mine is getting like 15 million. Barely proccing. (Moonkin also did 50M more than me too).

[lofty depot]

its hasted

also mayeb the have boots idk

[shrewd gate]

The boots! I just checked and yes they have it, wow what a damage boost. Appreciate the response!

[lofty depot]

@vital hound i need a donation

[vital hound]

thats huge

holyu

[lofty depot]

gotta talk them down from 3.5m on ah

ope its 5m on ah

were fucked

[vital hound]

yea no chance

im insta listing that shit

[lofty depot]

yea

[vital hound]

5m is the next two expansions

lol

[lofty depot]

were getting a stimmy cuz gbank full

[round field]

rate my vault arctic

[lofty depot]

w

[wicked shuttle]

10

[cedar pumice]

what is the internal cooldown on Astral Antena proccs? or it`s fully random ?

and do you try to delay the buff collection during fights by running away from orbs if your cds are close or dont bother?

[lofty depot]

u can do that yes

internal cd shrug

not something to worry about

[teal sphinx]

do i run 1 more key tonight or go to bed?

[drifting nova]

my vault is bug

[lofty depot]

bedge

[teal sphinx]

got it

[stone ledge]

I’m getting augged now in raid so I think I’m doing better then get memes 😢

[livid jay]

just macro cancelaura ebon might into your wrath

[merry ibex]

about to do first raid as balance druid yay x

[stone ledge]

thats toxic our aug is super nice

they just like playing it and dev apparently is underperforming

[livid jay]

super nice but still stealing your damage

[livid jay]

gl

[stone ledge]

i mean looking better but i still cant get forgeweaver ca to line up with how bad our collectors always end up @lofty depot

[livid jay]

u sending ca on collectors? 😄

[stone ledge]

you dont know the strat?

[livid jay]

what strat

[stone ledge]

to get all 4 empowered surges in the amp

you dry ca when the collectors are close to dead and still hit cap cause of starfall and get the convoke surges in on amp

[livid jay]

i hate this spec

[stone ledge]

yep

im close to just holding it and sending in last 15%

[livid jay]

so that is why my rank 1 turned into a goddamn rank 45 xD

cause u guys inventing more stupid ass shit

[stone ledge]

this has been a thing for 3 weeks

[livid jay]

well yea was about 3 weeks ago lol

[lyric thicket]

Rate mine xD

[stone ledge]

any vault that has a upgrade 10/10

5 weeks of w's

[pallid bay]

first vault opened as boomkin..

[stone ledge]

i cant wait til next week when i have a full mythic raid vault we have 4 people mia this week so im getting full 6

[lyric thicket]

Do we have a 📅 for dinar ?

[cloud plover]

I have my last vault today until dimmy dome is dead :(

[stone ledge]

we have king in p2 with 6 hours left to raid this week, realisitic to kill or just alot of p3 practice?

[cloud plover]

p3 is omega hard scripted as long as ppl know how eyes work and understand their wa/Def usage it's free

literally dumb free phase

[stone ledge]

im assuming we get it close cause we are backtracking for soul hunters monday and then just mythic reclear into kill 2nd night and lockout for dimmadome

[lofty depot]

my guild terrorizes my ability to parse

[delicate perch]

if it's not boss damage parses ur a rat

[lofty depot]

i tabbed to a collector and slammed a buffed surge at it

[delicate perch]

[solar arch]

Hero ring outsims the mythic trinkets, i currently have hero antenna and champion forge

[delicate perch]

that's not how sims work

rings are not competing with trinkets

the ring is good + ur ring probably sucks + trinket is beans

[bronze torrent]

Did I fk up the next vault?

Will take belt, already got the socket item, I guess

[eternal lily]

Hey. One question for the opener:

treants -> CA -> max surges possible -> convoke -> Ca -> surges

Have we a Timer or something for the 2nd CA or just press it

[fossil hemlock]

My favorite part of araz is that certain spells can damage collectors in the main phase

Like dryad's favor cleave if whatever you're surging is close enough

Full damage

[fossil hemlock]

You just press the 2nd CA right after convoke finishes

[stone ledge]

You are still doing better then me 😂 feel like I’m getting better every raid tho

[tawny cloud]

when we sim? do we use Latest or weekly version?

[stone ledge]

Latest

[flint rose]

Crafted belt is good to replace 701 belt ?

[stone ledge]

Lower prio currently but yes especially after .5

[pallid bay]

funny script bypassing flags mayhaps

[tawny cloud]

iridium will you look at my sim in a moment? just rerunning it as i used weekly before. little confused with my vault 😄

[fossil hemlock]

I think it's % cleave, I think I also saw an arcane mage with their touch of the magi explosion

[stone ledge]

Lemme see

[flint rose]

that's my sim ! 🙁 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/okAhJQAAuaY6ms6PfMxaDv

[livid jay]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

[stone ledge]

You are simming 3 target not 1

I’d craft the legs. Bigger current upgrade and belt off 1st boss will likely drop enough to snag

[tawny cloud]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rz9VEYesTEYP5C6N6SFgVQ

[stone ledge]

Yeah that neck is really good, what question did you have about it?

[tawny cloud]

just that ;D

[flint rose]

okok, i made a new correct sim 🙂 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6Lr8cMKSfmJe3giL9s41uf

[stone ledge]

Still on 3 target haha

[flint rose]

Fck me 🙁

[stone ledge]

What were your other options @tawny cloud

[sage axle]

tryna learn tanking, idk what i should do

[flint rose]

Bts i will do legs

[tawny cloud]

i was just wondering if i should do critt gems in it? as i loose alot of critt when swapping neck

[sage axle]

woo

[tawny cloud]

i know my one ring is wrong atm but didnt get around to get one. just used it to get rid of Jastors

[livid jay]

replace existing gems and enchants in bottom to sim it

[stone ledge]

^

[tawny cloud]

i have marked the gems with empty Mommas

[livid jay]

[stone ledge]

Then robot says you need more vers

[tawny cloud]

thanks 😄 ill go for that then

[livid jay]

i mean u have haste gems in one of your rings

i would resim them all

[tawny cloud]

yeah i know. thats because im still trying to get another ring for it. Okay ill try unload it

[livid jay]

that ring isnt bis stats but upgrading it with gilded will probably still make it better than most other choices

and its nice for m+ 😄

[obsidian tapir]

I am sorry 🙁

[tawny cloud]

yeah its alright. but i will try and sim with clean things and see what to put inti

[sonic crag]

I had a feeling I'd get both in 1 vault

[tiny ridge]

gz

-1week

[tawny cloud]

when we sim gems. do we sim with Max colors or without?

[jaunty blaze]

If you want to get most value out of your gem then you sim with it

[vital hound]

hecka

[tawny cloud]

thanks

[tight dagger]

is the ROTA changed ??

why do we cast Trees + CA together at pull now ?

[sonic crag]

Cap the buff from tier with convoke, get value from boat, bigger bang

[pallid bay]

having 2 vault slots is quite impressive, when you type in here it sounds like you've done 30 keys in a week

[jaunty blaze]

Boat and trinket

[tawny cloud]

What does Boat mean?

[eternal lily]

😂😂

[jaunty blaze]

Balance of all things

[eternal lily]

Krit

[tawny cloud]

ah tanks 😄

[tiny ridge]

nah

after what happening in the game i play less and less and less

[tight dagger]

so this is correct now ?

[jaunty blaze]

Yes

[tiny ridge]

at least now i have no main char

[tight dagger]

what macro do you use for Force of Nature (Trees)

[fossil hemlock]

Only [@cursor]

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/bjg4P.gif

[wise hare]

bro is he still going

[tiny ridge]

?

[delicate perch]

[wise hare]

just do everyone a favor and quit the game

[vital hound]

[lofty depot]

u only 2 surge if u dont have lust

but yes is correct

[sage silo]

So is the damage of kotg 4 set not amplified by trees 24% sp. Is that why trees is not being delayed to overlap with 2x empowered surges from 4p?

[lofty depot]

it is amped

[fossil hemlock]

It does overlap

[tiny ridge]

i have no other games to play

[fossil hemlock]

You cut the first Ca very short so trees are still up

[lofty depot]

and we do over lap it for the surges

[delicate perch]

fellowship beta launches in like 2 days dw

[sage silo]

Then this doesn’t work? As incarn lasts longer then trees right? And you don’t get the amp surges till after incarn has faded by then trees buff has gone, or am I bugging

[fossil hemlock]

When you press the 2nd CA you force-despawn the dryad early

In the image up there you cast trees at 1.9 meaning they're up until 11.9, and you cast second CA at 9.1 to remove the dryad and get the buff, and then surge at 9.1 and 10.1

[tiny ridge]

nah

[delicate perch]

[tiny ridge]

ill just try to spam 10s on both chars until i fill the vault and thats it

[sage silo]

So basically after convoke is over you incarn again to force spawn dyrads to then dump surges before trees despawn correct?

[fossil hemlock]

Yes

[sage silo]

Crazy how we want to throw away like 3 seconds of incarn

[fossil hemlock]

More like 6 seconds thrown away

[sage silo]

Smh

[royal zenith]

LMAO

[sage silo]

And this is why playing reduced incarn from hero tree has become better correct?

[vital hound]

@glossy jungle how tf did you get the mount

ur insane

[fossil hemlock]

That's to line up better at 4 minutes

[royal zenith]

what does it matter if you throw away seconds of a CD if you gain more dps

[fossil hemlock]

With certain kill times the wrath damage is still better IIRC

[royal zenith]

but I guess the same logic applies to people perma wanting to replace the cantrip belt / ring

[cloud plover]

u have no other games to play and still can't fill vaults?

[livid jay]

i mean it definitely is cringe as fuck but it is what it is 😄

[royal zenith]

yeah I dunno, maybe don't attach emotions to it

you also cancelled starlord at some point

[fossil hemlock]

Also cringe

[sage silo]

Yes it’s just crazy how the design works is all, never would you think throwing away your biggest cd would be beneficial

[livid jay]

my heart has been broken since the day they deleted stellar drift - unfixable

[royal zenith]

I don't think this is their design though

[fossil hemlock]

TBF convoke is our biggest CD

[sage silo]

Agree

[royal zenith]

we just figured out this is the way to do more damage

it's intended versus unintended

[fossil hemlock]

By proxy it is, they could have just reduced the storage % and increased cap to make us want to stay in CA longer

[royal zenith]

yeah but there's many things you figure out after things go live or even have been tested

the opener was different before

where you didn't lose seconds of your CA

anyway

[cloud plover]

it's like you expect them to have a complete idea of how a spec will optimize

[royal zenith]

back to a meeting

[fossil hemlock]

You're right my bad, they have no way of messing around with stuff after it's live and they see how it plays out

[cloud plover]

if it feels unintended enough for big enough a gain they'd probably fix it

but considering this spec has had like 3 opener changes since release it's probably not exactly something they care about as much

[wise hare]

in legion we had a build where you would just spam moonfire and starfall on like 3+ targets

and it was the most dps

literally nothing else

love boomy degen design

[cloud plover]

you're showing your age

careful

[wise hare]

nah its fine i started playing with legion

iam not that old

[fossil hemlock]

Legion was 2016, the game is from 2004

[cloud plover]

@serene bolt

[fossil hemlock]

Hardly showing any age

[serene bolt]

sisterwoman and i was wondering what the helly

why am i pinged here

[cloud plover]

haahahaha

I can't help it

I see iam I ping you

[serene bolt]

🤝

[safe egret]

dumb question by a brand new player. is there a class that's kinda just "hit one or two abilities until a proc happens then hit that one" ad infinitum?

[glossy jungle]

[cloud plover]

frost dk probably

[vital hound]

i was gonna make a joke

@delicate perch

feels risky

[cloud plover]

as far as I've seen they just press shiny button one and two

and if neither is shiny you press something to make it shiny

[safe egret]

frost dk, okay. i've heard unholy is really good at scaling damage but theirr damage charts dont seem it... and everyone says they're hard somehow?

[hollow mist]

[maiden pasture]

bm hunter

[cloud plover]

couldn't tell u, it's a frost meta rn unholy is not played that much I think

[vital hound]

high level pfp

holy

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-food-eating-cat-eating-gif-1320502635529344444

[safe egret]

okay thanks for the help

[wise hare]

@vale pebble why is farming renown so awful

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/sEZLH1mtmR6.gif

[wise hare]

cant they just remove it

[vale pebble]

what renown bro

[wise hare]

karesh bro

need that sick rune

[vale pebble]

why would u be farming that

[wise hare]

[vital hound]

[vale pebble]

3 ppl in my raid have that

[wise hare]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-pepe-pepe-the-frog-smile-gif-16394031

[vale pebble]

and they have more achievement points than i have cents in my bank account

[wise hare]

LMAO

fair

[maiden pasture]

my guild has like a few degens that got it a week before people naturally got it, a few people that natty just did the weekly and shit mostly people that are sitting at like renown 7

[cloud plover]

I think I finally hit renown 15 yday

another month til I get my rune

[wise hare]

my friends guild who is like 3/8m had them grind the rune out as a requirment

[quiet drift]

ye

augment runes

are the thing holding people back

[wise hare]

for sure

[quiet drift]

Youre not seeing roi until youve popped the rune 82 times anyways

[safe egret]

what are these runes?

and how do you actually grind out renown

[wise hare]

world quest

[cloud plover]

farm rares, world quests, buy contract and do world quests in rest of tww zones

dailies in karesh

dungeon quest blah blah

delve with keys until Karesh renown

[pallid bay]

man these guilds are the most insane

[sudden flame]

absolutely no chance im doing world quests for rep

doing the weekly allotted for the phase diving quests and thats it

[cloud plover]

I've recently witnessed the absolute peak of guild weirdness

[wise hare]

MANDATORYY RENOWN GRIND

to not get CE

[scenic mist]

i did 3 bountiful for the 100 discs

didnt get karesh rep

ff

[muted remnant]

Antenna is probably the better choice over Signet, I take it?

[scenic mist]

all day eveery day yes

this is what we call a nobrainer

[vital hound]

[vital hound]

cool ring tbf

[muted remnant]

fair enough, ty, got Logic Gate: Alpha recently and was wondering whether there was something like too much crit or such that'd render it less useless

[cedar geyser]

i Got antena mythic + prio / lily / parapodia hc in the bags
Do i take parapodia mythic and get it to 723 or shoulder tier set mythic

[scenic mist]

yeah we wouldve said that over a socket but mythic antenna rules

[muted remnant]

trinket over shoulders

[scenic mist]

you can always change neck or other ring if your sim says so tbf

[vital hound]

lootable tho

idk what his raid situation is

assuming pug or forge prog

based on 1 slot

[scenic mist]

he can loot omega ring too

[vital hound]

ya we want both omega rings no

[scenic mist]

he has alpha

omega drops from plexus right ?

puggable

[vital hound]

oh i didnt read that

ye

and second one is

[scenic mist]

araz

iirc

[vital hound]

that one

ya

[muted remnant]

yea sorry, I am forced to pug this season

don't think I'll get an araz kill anytime soon or ever

but I guess I'll just keep pugging and hoping, at least Antenna ought to help then :)

[scenic mist]

i think araz will be in pug range before or right at turboboost

easier than stix and stix was puggable

[vital hound]

yea its not far off

[muted remnant]

oh really, easier than stix, alright, were the nerfs that hard

[vital hound]

it gets

[scenic mist]

yeah

[vital hound]

nerfed by gear

massively

[scenic mist]

nerfs were insane

[muted remnant]

fair enough, I shall keep hoping then

[vital hound]

you'll be able to lust pull

and just skip the fight

[muted remnant]

guess I'll see if I'll get to do it as Boomie, had to play Resto for my mythic pugs so far

[ripe iris]

Hey! I am conpletly new to druid! Ive played wow for 19 years but has allways thought druid is the most unengaging class to play! However i am now Willing to give balance a fair chanse to prove it self😅

So therefore i need a beginners guide thats updated to TWW S3, i am primarely playing m+.

What YouTuber should I watch? ☺️😊

[muted remnant]

Tettles, Gamz, Krona might be good

[cloud plover]

I am so jealous of people that can watch videos and learn

[jade flume]

You can't watch videos?

[ripe iris]

I am really envious of people who can just read spells and a talent tree and immediately understand how to play optimal 😅

[cloud plover]

I can watch videos but it's like one ear in one ear out

I retain very little of what I watched

[muted remnant]

Naguura used to provide idiotproof cast sequences but atm you only really get that from the Compendium from what I've seen

[ripe iris]

I don’t really want foolproof explanation, I am looking for a in depth understanding of the spec

[muted remnant]

Well, hope the sources listed provide what you seek then, maybe someone else has better suggestions

[warm valley]

We got the ritual forge finally

[jade flume]

@lofty depot https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/twisting-nether/Looqd

ez achievement

[sudden flame]

how are people so geared man

[ripe iris]

Ty😄

[jade flume]

spoonfed(got 2 items from raid)

[scenic mist]

717 vaults

week after week

that's what i did at least

[sudden flame]

i've gotten first boss weapon and thats it from mythic i think

[jade flume]

nah i think i only got 1 717 item

[sudden flame]

lmao

[lofty depot]

thats crazy

[jade flume]

my full 717 vault was a socklet

but i got a lot of ilvls from boes

i bought chest ring and belt

each was +10 ilvls

[fathom tulip]

Hello fellow droods

Quick question

The wowhead guide about bis gear is kinda outdated right? They still put haste + mastery items up there despite haste bring total shit compared to crit and vers for kotg right now or am I simming something wrong?

[fossil hemlock]

Yes, always sim yourself

Haste is bad (you still want some, but not nearly as much as previously)

Bis lists are fake anyway

[pallid bay]

Real

[fossil hemlock]

Your upgrades depend entirely on what gear you already have

[fathom tulip]

Yea i know

But just to be sure cause we used to prio haste over crit and vers

[scenic mist]

anything mentioning a bis list is outdated 10years AT LEAST

[fossil hemlock]

I think Warlords was the expansion where you started getting 400 options for each item slot

[severe hollow]

Isn't it legion

With m+

And PvP at that time too

[fossil hemlock]

I remember WoD having 400 chests from the same dungeon alone

Lots of duplicates with slightly different stats

[severe hollow]

Didn't play wod but was dungeon loot playable?

Outside early gearing

[fossil hemlock]

I remember doing weekly mythics world tour but I can't remember what they were like or if it was optimal

[scenic mist]

no

[scenic mist]

rep only

[dire osprey]

cheating....

[delicate perch]

p2w

wow is a gacha!!

[dire osprey]

what ilvl are the boes

even

[delicate perch]

1/6? maybe?

[dire osprey]

wasnt it low-ish

something like that

[quiet drift]

714

[delicate perch]

ya that

[dire osprey]

oh shit

[delicate perch]

what miss % do people sim antenna at

for last two

[pallid bay]

30% or so

40% if you're bad

50% if you forgot you had it equipped

[scenic mist]

[pallid bay]

if you had 50 you're trolling or

[stark mantle]

Guy my english is bad but, in MM+ I have mastery, hâte, crit, versa and on raid my dps is not enought what stat i need on raid

[scenic mist]

Never had 50 no

Just reacted to « Forgot you had it equipped »

[stark mantle]

And I have some problem on nazindri and araz idk if I need to go elune or forest

[scenic mist]

Less haste more vers

[pallid bay]

oh just meant that as you're not paying any attention to the orbs

[stark mantle]

I have already 24500 mastery 16k hate 7/8k crit and 2k versa

[pallid bay]

i had 27% or something last raid

[fossil hemlock]

The orbs are funny when they stop moving just outside your hitbox

[stark mantle]

Boomie need a stuff Raid and a stuff mythic ?

[fossil hemlock]

And then you run towards them and they float away from you

[scenic mist]

Just change neck and rings

[fossil hemlock]

Bit too much hate there, you need to stack more love instead

More dps

[scenic mist]

Yeah that is the worst

[stark mantle]

I hate a crafted neck

[stark mantle]

I need more versa less hate ?

[scenic mist]

C’est un jeu de mot parce que hate en anglais c’est la haine

[stark mantle]

Ha 😅

[scenic mist]

Moins de haine plus d’amour

[worldly crypt]

AOTC boomkins, when are you starting your opener on Dimmy? I was waiting until after the knockback, but that’s not what I’m seeing from the highest parsers.

Also, are you star falling when the ads come out. I’ve been passing in the high 80s and haven’t been Starfall and wondering if that’s the difference

[stark mantle]

Je le jure j’ai bcp de mal je comprend pas tout les guide et j’en chie

Niveau stat je suis perdu mais vrm

Il me faudrait combien à peu prêt

[livid jay]

why would you wait, just go insta

[livid jay]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/druid-balance/dimensius-the-alldevouring?difficulty=heroic

[scenic mist]

Faut sim y’a pas de vérité absolue
Mais en raid c’est maitrise>vers>=crit>hate

[stark mantle]

Ha bah c’est pour ça que j’ai du mal déjà

J’ai bcp de hate pour le raid

[livid jay]

yea i agree hate this raid

[stark mantle]

Et j’ai du mal à sim j’aimerai sim en aoe et mono mais j’arrive pas a sim en aoe

[scenic mist]

Y’a pas de sim aoe pour moonkin, fais un sim mono dans ta spe m+ et part du principe que si c’est mieux en sim mono ça sera mieux en m+

[stark mantle]

Si ta un moment pour venir en appelle avec moi demain ou quand tu veux

[stark mantle]

Dacc

[scenic mist]

French overload
Tell Ravec not to log in

[delicate perch]

40%

[dire osprey]

why does this always happen

[stark mantle]

J’ai juste besoin de chopper deux ring pour avoir mes stats raid ?

[dire osprey]

and when u move to them they fkin fly away

[worldly crypt]

Because all of the movement and you want to be extremely efficient during your CA windows. I mean, I definitely see some various in those logs you just sent me. It only looks like one guy around the 30th call Sys cities like I have been doing.

Star falling when the ads come out, is that a net positive? One ad in my group dies so it’s definitely not worth dotting.

[scenic mist]

Ça fera une grosse partie du taf déjà oui

[dire osprey]

can you guys stop typing my couch is starting to float up

[ionic surge]

You can be efficient while getting knocked back and moving

You just pool your asp and dump on the go

[scenic mist]

[ionic surge]

Anytime you're not casting you're losing dps it's that simple @worldly crypt

[livid jay]

i swear our cd window is the part of the rotation where we can move the most

[scenic mist]

And losing WAY MORE dps than you think btw

[worldly crypt]

OK. We got 30 poles in and I tried 30 different openers.

[livid jay]

except last part of second CA

[dire osprey]

convoke op

[worldly crypt]

EXACTLY

[ionic surge]

Its the same for all caster specs

ABC = always be casting

[scenic mist]

No

[worldly crypt]

Convoke is four seconds of movement. I’m talking about grouping up for the soak, dodging the tank smash and casting to the knockback.

[scenic mist]

Moonkin has too much at stake

[livid jay]

its annoying but its doable just fine

[scenic mist]

We are one of the most uptime dependent spec

[ionic surge]

Yea

[worldly crypt]

👍 that’s what I’m seeing.

[ionic surge]

So you dont delay when you start to cast just because boss does funny abilities

[dire osprey]

pool ap

[ionic surge]

You press surge or re-apply dots when moving if you're not in CA

You use wildcharge to reposition instantly

Proper positionning also means you aren't running around for 10s everytime

[worldly crypt]

I need to look through my logs from last night. One attempt I accidentally double clicked CA, and my burst actually went up. I don’t know if there’s some sort of a glitch, allowing your CAS to stack, but I’m assuming people would’ve noticed that before me. I don’t mean back to back, I double clicked them and then bursted for some insane hits.

[devout hazel]

you re pop ca after your convoke ends

[dire osprey]

[devout hazel]

to force end your dryad and do a big thumpa

[worldly crypt]

Your disengaging to cancel the knockback? I have not yet clicked while charge in kitty form to see what it actually does. I tried that shit on plexus

[worldly crypt]

I know what you’re saying. That’s not what I did last night. I had one pole where I clicked to see it twice before I did anything else, and it was the highest burst of all my poles. I haven’t gone through my charts to figure out why

[dire osprey]

its just a leap but u dont use that usually

u got backflip

[somber karma]

yo guys what do you usually craft? i got a staff, got my wrists and i simmed belt craft but it seems to be terrible... the freakin belt is too strong

[dire osprey]

sounds like giga crits or something because i dont think it does anything

[obsidian jetty]

you have like 14 seconds of gcd spam idk dog

[worldly crypt]

Why are your first three casts so far apart?

[ionic surge]

No in moonkin form

[worldly crypt]

I’m guessing your preposition and then blowing. When I do that I get punched in the face.

[ionic surge]

No this is regular

[obsidian jetty]

stand by the edge of the platform in the middle

[ionic surge]

You're overthinking this

[obsidian jetty]

but yea, you have tons of movement GCDs in CDs. The only time you care about casting is after all your big dam is over

all that being said, you can do w/e you want on that fight as long as your CDs line up for dmg amp and you don't lose a use of CDs

if you want to save, then save. But doubtful that you gain anything by doing it

[worldly crypt]

Trying to optimize is exactly that.

I happen to be in a guild where I lead the damage meters as a moon. If I have to carry, I want my knees and back to be strong.

[willow jungle]

Is Jastor Diamond bugged when i sim or , since nothing i have sims higher not even crafted

[worldly crypt]

Cool, downs and phase one, cool downs on the first platform. What are you doing on the second platform? Using your half set or holding that for the burn

[ionic surge]

You very much can optimize without going into such overcomplexification that it'll have you waste time and divert your focus. You do you but the boss isn't special on heroic, you play it like any other

[devout hazel]

do you know how to navigate through logs? because on logs you can see the exact time people are casting their cds

[jade flume]

man, i pugged hc on mage

[worldly crypt]

I appreciate your advice, but obviously we don’t think about the game the same way.

[jade flume]

leader said to lust intermission i asked if he means dmg amp or the actual intermission

and someone said its a sus question

gg

[digital berry]

All of this yapping is about heroic dimensius ? Surely not

[ionic surge]

I tried

[lofty depot]

Buff is good, it does buff on live so some opt to swap out earlier than others. But heavy mastery ring aswell so is good

[livid jay]

you can see that in the link i sent earlier

and if u click the names at the start of the line it takes you to the log of the person

if u wanna see when they are casting starfall or whatever

[radiant cloud]

Why is 658 house of cards simming so good? 😄 in my sims it beats 710 Diamantine Voidcore in 6min 3target & 1,5min 5target and pulls equal in 6min 1target 😄 am I doing sth. wrong or is it that strong? 😮

[delicate perch]

1.5m 5target @vital hound

[livid jay]

can u link a 1T5Min sim?

house of cards is a very good trinket

(too good for its ilvl)

i was running it until i got a myth track trinket too

so im not surprised

[vital hound]

hoc op confirmed

[delicate perch]

house will also be big value if you aren't simming another on use

[delicate perch]

putting mine back on rn

[vital hound]

scrolling item resto as we speak

[lofty depot]

Diamantine voidcore isnt very good, and those Sims are kinda funny

[radiant cloud]

I used this 1T6min https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7zoPEfC6P7awJTcLaa6JoP

But there is a lot of shit to sim in there, so I did a less "convoluted" sim 1T5min and it looks way better (aka hoc way more down): https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vEWux6LwQtuhRNwRYjiJR9

[digital berry]

Goddamn that’s a busy sim

[radiant cloud]

Yeah, that may have played a role in my whole confusion 😄

[livid jay]

just a tip for future, if u see red dots on the sim numbers it means you are simming a bit too many items at the same time and a lot are simmed at lower accuracy

[lofty depot]

Crafting neck when we have a hero staff, hmm

[radiant cloud]

but its THE hero staff, no? with effect and stuff?

[lofty depot]

Should resim weapon enchants, cuz they changed

[livid jay]

time to put 1 more item in your sim xD

[lofty depot]

Did u sim the diff

Assuming it's good because it has the effect seems troll no?

[jade flume]

effect is nice but ilvl gain on weapons is by far the biggest upgrades you can get

its very rare for hc weapon to be worth over mythic

[lofty depot]

Hint weapon craft is often your biggest upgrade and is chosen more often than not

Not having a mythic ilvl weapon week 5, is oof

[radiant cloud]

okay, so I´ll throw in a new sim 😄 My idea was that crafting two things on 720 on slots I got 661 or something on would be better than one slot 710->720

due to spark limitations

[radiant cloud]

its this toons first ID 😄

[lofty depot]

The 2 items u crafted aren't on higher value slots than a weapon

[lofty depot]

Yea but it's week 5

[radiant cloud]

kk I will check the weap

[jade flume]

but yeah can just sim to know for usre

sure

thats always your best bet

better than guessing

[lofty depot]

And most of us (me included) didn't craft say bracers to 720, we crafted it to 704

And upgraded better slots cuz bracers are very low value slot

[jade flume]

Yeah, but tbf at this point you will probably have more crests than mythic items to spend them on

so its not that bad to use on guaranteed slot

[lofty depot]

"you"

[jade flume]

but definitely value of crests is a lot lower

[dense steeple]

Yeah i died on the kill and it felt bad

[livid jay]

i wish

[jade flume]

not on mains ofc, this guy started last week tho

and i assume he wont be slamming 8/8m runs and hm tazavesh every week

[radiant cloud]

not on this toon, no 😄 my 2nd main / 1st alt is actually having more myth track items than crests 😄

[livid jay]

you are on the classdiscord of your 2nd alt? 😄

thats some dedication

[ionic surge]

Best way to not suck ass

And get actual advice

[radiant cloud]

I am on ALL class discords 😂 Boomie is 5th alt I think, but I think about doing my m+ pushing on boomie because its fun 😄

[livid jay]

5th alt

mr world of warcraft

[radiant cloud]

Only got wow and my dog, so its a lot of wow for me, yeah 😅

[livid jay]

wish i still had this much fun in wow 😄

[radiant cloud]

for me its more chars = more "yay, big upgrade" = more fun 😄

[jade flume]

same

[livid jay]

until u encounter what a friend had today 😄

4 full vaults

3 sockets and 1 offspec trinket

[radiant cloud]

_<

condolences to your friend

[sonic surge]

am i high or were we supposed to treant after two gcds

[livid jay]

read the first pin

[wind lion]

Guys, theres any benefit to use CA inside a Eclipse?? I was seing some VODs and some people tend to Wrath+Wrath => CA after leaving an Eclipse, instead of just using CA right after Eclipse is gone...

[robust monolith]

is there a way to sim trinkets with specific cooldowns?

like the external buff thing

[livid jay]

might be to gain some ap before starting the new eclipse and some muscle memory from back when it actually did something i believe

[ionic surge]

Probably to use dreamstate

[livid jay]

estimates on how long till we kill? xD

[jade flume]

probably like another 80 pulls

[livid jay]

only

pog

[jade flume]

p1 is the most difficult part

we went from 43% best to a kill

[livid jay]

but ye we are starting to get through p1 with more and more people alive so i can see the light

how did you do p1? Did you do the stack up before soak and run together thing?

[jade flume]

no, idk what that means even

[livid jay]

lemme find the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuCRdNuJshA

feels like this stacking and running together idiot proves the baiting of the beams a bit

[jade flume]

we probably did some similar to that

but i dont think we were going out of our way to stack together before

but i was playing feral so i was in melee eitherway

[livid jay]

well the boss-movement last second is what makes the difference i think

ranged can bait wherever but if melee are in a different spot like 5-10 secs before the soak happens, the baits are way more consistently off the soak then

[dire lake]

When Im simming for keys, is it better to do 5 min 1 target or 5 min 5 targets?

[livid jay]

go to the dreamgrove compendium guide linked to this channel and read the FAQ, it answers that question 🙂

[rapid sphinx]

is heroic voidglass kris better then myth weapon , asuming u got trinket aswell?

[vagrant prawn]

depends on the myth weapon/the level on trinket/ and your other gear

sim it

[crisp badger]

did anyone here kill kyvesza ?? on week 1 in less than 6 mins

[jade flume]

Very specific, i doubt though

[crisp badger]

i also really doubt, that implies he did like 3.5m dps throughout the whole fight

on week 1 with s2 gear

[jade flume]

Yeah, my homies were doing 6min kyveza but that was on op specs

aff warlock and shit

[crisp badger]

yeah i'd understand if it was on BM< hunter

or something like that

but boomkin?

[clear shoal]

I feel like im getting good results with mastry and crit in raids with KotG, anyone else?

[delicate perch]

Maybe some vers too? Very little haste perhaps..

[clear shoal]

Get rid of haste where possible?

I need to get the raidbots sub

[radiant onyx]

raidbots suggesting I take haste disc belt over myth belt

[tawny cloud]

Hey, What are we doing these days on Soulbinder? kotG or EC?

looking at logs its close to 50/50

[fossil shard]

you sure?

[stone tiger]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4uitjzUJB5o3bRNS37zBsf is this a bait for m+?

[fossil shard]

I think it was ec leaning earlier but now since everything just gets evaporated, keeper feels better

depends on your raid though

[tawny cloud]

yeah i guess you are right. ill make both setups ready and start with KotG and if we fail to adds ill swap on do more there

[gray pulsar]

+1 for depends on the raid. 2 frost dk just evaporated most of the adds yesterday so I was able to go keeper and just blast boss. ymmv

[tight dagger]

I still dont understand Why we changed the opener.

What buff do we have, if we cancel the First CA for the buffed SS

Ofc we have the dryad

[gray pulsar]

Trees still up and dryad 1 feeds dryad 2

[tight dagger]

But in the old opener, dryad 1 also feeds dryad 2

Also with trees

[viral estuary]

Any reason a good amount of the high rated boomies aren't using ritual forge in M+? Is it just trinket availability?

[round oracle]

its not good for ec

[viral estuary]

should i use 2 passive trinkets or maybe lily?

[tawny cloud]

i think its because the time you cut off the first CA doesnt provide as much as it does to just cut it and benefit from the trees in 2nd CA

[gray pulsar]

Additionally, look at e.g. Naazindhri: we blast double CA so we have Trees/Convoke/CA around 2:00 for the release of all adds. Then another Double CA at 4:30 for big badaboom

It just lines up chef's kiss

[maiden pasture]

higher trinket value for dryad surges, higher boat value for convoke

[tawny cloud]

also i havent looked much into it yet. the stress of the daily life. But do we run 2CA- single CA - 2CA ?

[jade flume]

it depends on boss kill time id assume

but under 5mins i think thats correct

[tawny cloud]

and if its over 6 min we do - 2ca - ca -ca - 2 ca?

[jade flume]

@lofty depot How the hell are u shimmin 5.9

im at like 5.65

[scenic mist]

[jade flume]

ggs

they benched me on plexus

was gonna do nexus king trinket tech

[sacred citrus]

Is there still a softcap on haste? If so where can I find that number?

[scenic mist]

cap dont exist anymore

[pallid bay]

i feel like

this is simply how you play the boss

[scenic mist]

just sim your char

[livid jay]

Maybe, but it's way more strict on stacking everyone up and running the soak/boss over last second than the guide Videos by dratnos etc show

[pallid bay]

counterpoint - dratnos stinks

[livid jay]

Sure

But what source can we use, dratnos at least doesn't make our zoomers fall asleep while watching the guide like Andrew t does

[cloud citrus]

tell me how that goes seems insane to have 16k int extra during surge windoe

[quiet drift]

Equip trinket
Direct heal ally w debuff
Equip real trinket
Profit

this is ur prepull

[cloud citrus]

it goes off when u take it off

[quiet drift]

no

[boreal knot]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-food-eating-cat-eating-gif-1320502635529344444

[pallid bay]

dont check his dimensius video duration

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-food-eating-cat-eating-gif-1320502635529344444

[pallid bay]

cheater..

[scenic mist]

what debuff ?

[livid jay]

[pallid bay]

🫡

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-food-eating-cat-eating-gif-1320502635529344444

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-dandelion-cat-silly-kitty-she-was-a-fairy-gif-14702056371420778419

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/tummy-fat-pouch-funny-belly-gif-25437847

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-box-gif-25488894

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/wawa-ball-cat-cat-ball-wawa-ball-gif-24803864

[boreal knot]

https://tenor.com/view/humm-miam-gif-7752014409153192480

[scenic mist]

i've never seen you spam cat meme that much before turning feral this tier

[hazy storm]

Lock in

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-light-computer-gif-21223179

[muted citrus]

what do you think his armpits smell like

[lofty depot]

I'm only at 5.834, recruitie simming higher :/

[scenic mist]

cheaters

[maiden pasture]

wot tech

[pallid bay]

[lucid olive]

what about as tauren

[pallid bay]

i will not be a tauren

[lucid olive]

smh

[round field]

why do u sim

zdps

[gentle scroll]

Imagine leaving that .7% on the table

[sharp zenith]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8fM6eNH6mrs5G2vAruRwVh

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ndSCPVFZp4mP2w85YofgCK

Worth grabbing the wep for the gain at a cost of recrafting embels? In a way doesn't feel really worth it and can probably get the wep from raid instead, but alternative is just a socket. Will only be able to craft a new item in a few weeks time. Should also be killing Fract M soon so would rather get wep from there obv.

Then again feels bad to leave any gains on the table at all

[jade flume]

proc trinket before pull for 10k+ int buff in opener

2% dps boosto

[maiden pasture]

which trinketo

[lucid olive]

the healer one

[jade flume]

nexus king command

[maiden pasture]

[lucid olive]

no way you didnt know this

[maiden pasture]

i know people were talking about it but didnt think anyone was actually running that shit to do it

any logs with it or

[jade flume]

you swap it out with real trinket before boss pulls

but u keep buff

[gentle scroll]

Why are you not double crafting like dusk or something?

[lofty depot]

4not gonna go through every log to see if they have 12s buff

[upper anvil]

I've bene having fun and enjoying fereal recently. Am I cooked

[maiden pasture]

mybe i take this out of my warbank

[gentle scroll]

If you are enjoying playing feral, yes

[sharp zenith]

got a myth belt so dont know what slot to set it on tbh

should run some sims for that too though youre right

[upper anvil]

Reminds me idk what to craft. Shoulder Sims highest besides rings and i think rings kinda taken

Am I down bad to craft shoulders

[maiden pasture]

ye but surely someone knows of someone doing it

[sharp zenith]

shoulders not a bad call tho

[maiden pasture]

i would assume

ig not xd

[sharp zenith]

bastard's life of having 2 myth pieces i need to cata in bags and not having any spark pieces to craft with is kinda annoying

[gentle scroll]

Shoulders are generally the offslot since they have haste on tier

[sharp zenith]

2-3 more weeks before next craft tho

[maiden pasture]

only 1 if u take half a spark from vault

[sharp zenith]

my vault slot is the entire reason i need to do this bastard recraft

[gentle scroll]

The good news is you have like 30 more weeks of this season to go