just an 8
#balance
humble mauve
upper anvil
still 25 min ish
lofty depot
uhh
humble mauve
was in queue for it for like 40 minutes before we started
lofty depot
shit broken?
humble mauve
what do you mean
lofty depot
doesnt open casts
humble mauve
looks good on my end
lofty depot
cant help
humble mauve
oh for timelines?
lofty depot
yes
humble mauve
ah
stone ledge
what the helly
humble mauve
does it work on your end iridium?
upper anvil
thats cursed
humble mauve
I am?
lofty depot
also u dont need to enter eclipse if ur incarning, but u dont send that starfire surge surge before incarn either
humble mauve
or at least I think I am> I have to take my hand off my mouse to dot
lofty depot
what
humble mauve
so I'm playing in a hotel room atm
urban crescent
HUH
humble mauve
waiting for my house but I don't have my mmo mouse
urban crescent
Lmao
humble mauve
so I gotta hit the keypad on the laptop
urban crescent
humble mauve
it aint much but it's honest work
upper anvil
bro?
lofty depot
.. why rnt u using ur other hand
humble mauve
wdym
humble mauve
once I have my mouse back it's ez day
lofty depot
love watching people dot with mmo mouse can see everytime they press a button
shits unhinged
humble mauve
I mean with the mmo mouse I'm just using my right hand thumb for it
ruby flicker
i probably wouldn't post pictures with the phone number clearly visible but eh
humble mauve
fair
ruby flicker
be safe out there
urban crescent
Damn did i miss the chance for a prank call
humble mauve
would cost you about 3-4 bucks a minute
pseudo drum
call me at 867-5309
urban crescent
would cost you about 3-4 bucks a minute
I am in australia so triple that
humble mauve
also u dont need to enter eclipse if ur incarning, but u dont send that starfire...
yeah so my thought process in this is to get the double eclipse then to incarn for the double fury of elune on a big pack
lofty depot
dreamstate >
idk what u think double eclipse is
incarn gives both, the only thing ur "gaining" by entering eclipse possibly is sundered firm
and it does less than starfire
humble mauve
that's what I'm speaking of is sundered firm
but if it does nada dmg then yeah
gonna retry another key will log and see if casts is fixed
silk shard
so are we picking up goldrinns now for EC? 
craggy sonnet
doubt it
quiet drift
It begins...
ruby iris
man What do you guys recommend as a starter for new players?
craggy sonnet
in like pokemon? i think squirtle is pretty cool
ruby iris
oh I see
silk shard
i always picked bulbasaur to get type advantage on first two gym leaders
craggy sonnet
minmaxer..
ruby iris
i always picked bulbasaur to get type advantage on first two gym leaders
Sounds great
That's what I would have done
craggy sonnet
is mudkip like the strongest starter for its game across the board?
silk shard
iirc mudkip was pretty strong because its evolutions also had groundtype to negate the electric weakness of watertype
but i also didn't play that generation i think
somber path
7.8 to much water
deft crown
do you guys always wait for gathering monlight to build up or just send foe on cd everytime?
cloud lion
Send on cd for sure
slim elk
how accurate is dungeon slice compared to 10 bosses a 40sec or 1.30min
lusty echo
Anyone knows about elem shaman? Is it harder to play than balance?
round field
how accurate is dungeon slice compared to 10 bosses a 40sec or 1.30min
Neither of those 3 is accurate
round field
Anyone knows about elem shaman? Is it harder to play than balance?
Lilbro every spec in the game is harder than balance
silk shard
how accurate is dungeon slice compared to 10 bosses a 40sec or 1.30min
balance apl doesn't support dungeon slice
scenic mist
how accurate is dungeon slice compared to 10 bosses a 40sec or 1.30min
Look at FAQ section of compendium guide in pin to see how to sim for m+
frigid goblet
Anyone knows about elem shaman? Is it harder to play than balance?
its a little harder but not too bad, very fun too
maiden pasture
Lilbro every spec in the game is harder than balance
BM exists sadly
scenic mist
Lilbro every spec in the game is harder than balance
what about ret tho
scenic mist
Ret seems hard
you have plenty of options but whatever you press you do teh same dps basically
round field
Ur missing the joke
scenic mist
Ur missing the joke
pink propaganda
trim wigeon
Im Sturggling to find a good video guide on how the new rotation works iwth both Keeper and Elune. Can anyone link it? I played Boomie a ton in S1 so i understand the mechanics, its the change to the 4p that has me mixed up.
scenic mist
Im Sturggling to find a good video guide on how the new rotation works iwth both...
in what context ?
m+ or raid ?
trim wigeon
Raid sorry
misty glade
Im Sturggling to find a good video guide on how the new rotation works iwth both...
Have you read the compendium? It explains the 4pc but I'm unsure there's a video linked
scenic mist
Have you read the compendium? It explains the 4pc but I'm unsure there's a video...
there is, it's the one i linked
trim wigeon
im in the dreamgrove now readin gthru it
misty glade
Oops, my discord didn't update until after I sent the message. Didn't see you link that
delicate perch
not reading that essay.
fair mist
Anyone have a standalone dryad tracker they use?
trim wigeon
Ok, so how i understand it, after the opener, use Trees on CD unless CA/Covoke is up very soon. Only use CA if you have trees or convoke up. This asusmes the fight doenst end soon
pallid bay
basically
well
only convoke if you have CA and trees
only CA if you have trees
trees on CD unless you're about to use CA soon
trim wigeon
only convoke if you have CA and trees
Ok, that is kind of where my head was going, ty!!
trim wigeon
Anyone have a standalone dryad tracker they use?
I second that!
pallid bay
fair mist
Ty
trim wigeon
TY
scarlet tapir
Ty
vernal goblet
ty
severe hollow
ty
scenic mist
https://tenor.com/view/cat-rar-twitch-emote-gif-18303579789882915511
Ty
Remember to vote on wcl about soulbinder/Araz exclusion from all stars
pallid bay
i will be voting to exclude everything in the worst way possible
maiden pasture
remove everything from all stars except fracty
scarlet tapir
Remember to vote on wcl about soulbinder/Araz exclusion from all stars
ad
scenic mist
remove everything from all stars except fracty
Based
scarlet tapir
Remember to vote on wcl about soulbinder/Araz exclusion from all stars
just because ur class cant do aoe doesnt mean others have to have it excluded
maiden pasture
any fight where u have to race to do aoe shouldnt be on all stars
scenic mist
just because ur class cant do aoe doesnt mean others have to have it excluded
I said vote, didn’t say what to vote
maiden pasture
any fight where killing it too fast means u get 1 less damage amp phase should be removed from allstars
shrimple
severe hollow
any fight where killing it too fast means u get 1 less damage amp phase should b...
time to pay ppl to stop dps so you can pad more on second amp phase
craggy sonnet
only convoke if you have CA and trees
@lucid olive might be worth touching up that part of the dg prio list
grand bobcat
Hi there, i have a question. I did The Soul Hunters in a team with another balance druid the other day. He was 21% critical 13% haste, 14% mastery or something like that. I’ve always followed the classic stat priority, prioritising Mastery and Haste over Crit and Vesa, so right now i have something like 35% haste and 25% mastery. So with the same spec (for that fight was Elune’s Chosen because of the AOE boss fight), almost the same cast of spells (i compared it with details) the other moonkin did 6 million dps and i did like 4.4 million. The great difference was that he did the 20% more critical of just everything, so the damage was much more than mine. Now i’m confused, we builded up on mastery and haste and now i got fckd by a crit boomkin ? Should i consider to change and to aim to more crit ?
jaunty blaze
grand bobcat
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/c...
I don’t understeand
worldly spruce
Do you have a log ? I dont think 20% crit would do 1.6M dps tbh
round field
I don’t understeand
hes memeing you because you think stats are the problem instead of you being bad
solemn idol
In addition to wanting to see logs.. in the future...Sim your character for both scenarios - ST and M+/AE. You'll see stat prios change but it's up to you to decide on a middle ground or if swapping stats is something you want to do for each scenario instead of following the "classic stat priority"
upper anvil
Hi there, i have a question. I did The Soul Hunters in a team with another balan...
Both of you are using the mythic plus build for elunes chosen? If so I think you're misplaying the rotations then. While stats priory difference has little effect. Mastery haste on elunes should be doing better then the crit stuff form keeper in soul hunters. Unless there's a big ilevel difference
shadow canyon
How are ya'll deciding what to craft rn? I Mythic raid and push keys and with the stat prio being different for EC and KOTG this szn I can't seem to craft stuff without it being an increase for KOTG and a big decrease in DPS for EC and vice versa.
maiden pasture
you choose one to prio
raid u wanna clear asap
if u wanna push keys u wont be doing anything relevant until turbo boost
crit mastery gear isnt horrible for EC in keys, haste IS horrible for kotg in raid
shadow canyon
That's valid. Just feels bad having to choose to take a dps loss in one over the other compared to other seasons. Maybe we just had it too good before lol
lucid olive
The only real differences between them are necks and rings
And you'll gain different stat value jewelry from just doing m+
green spruce
Hi there, i have a question. I did The Soul Hunters in a team with another balan...
Maybe he just put in more effort. Like making sure he's always in a position to hit all targets wwith starfall, swaps target to make sure Starfire always hits to targets and so on.
wicked shuttle
How are ya'll deciding what to craft rn? I Mythic raid and push keys and with th...
I just craft for raid bc raid is a “we need to clear this ASAP” where m+ you have an entire season to play
normal pilot
are you actually gonna push with balance this season
wicked shuttle
I think this might not be my season tbh
normal pilot
unfortunate
pallid bay
washed gg..
wicked shuttle
I’d probably wanna gear hunter or something
wicked shuttle
But meh alpha probably in a month or two
pallid bay
wicked shuttle
Cannot
warm atlas
I dont expect mooonkin to change in alpha
warm atlas
I had the same hope for shadowlands alpha and essentially nothing has changed
wicked shuttle
Well TWW alpha came out 4 months before TWW
normal pilot
6 mo is typical for a season
wicked shuttle
Ppl are kind of expecting Feb or March
royal zenith
pain
wicked shuttle
I had the same hope for shadowlands alpha and essentially nothing has changed
Good thing your expectations have no consequences on reality
warm atlas
Neither does hope :p
lucid olive
Good thing your expectations have no consequences on reality
Damn is that Confucius
nova ocean
U guys mean beta not alpha right
lucid olive
No
nova ocean
Pretty sure beta came out 4 months before not alpha
They also said alpha in a couple weeks a couple weeks ago
lucid olive
yeah they're hard locked down to the same patch cadence now so stuff launches in more or less an unfinished state
the most visible negative of this is class design going downhill
nova ocean
Surely it can't get worse next expansion
delicate perch
normal pilot
well the mistake is thinking this is 'worse'
turns out for wow players bugs don't make the game worse, but not having content does
sick terrace
how is the chance of the spec getting a rework for midnight ?
lucid olive
less than 100, more than 0
mental plover
how do i sim other gems on my reshii wraps? the gems need to be in my bags?
lucid olive
normal pilot
can't wait for kotg to be turned into a pet spec
perma treant, perma catto, perma dryad
lucid olive
if its anything like diabolist warlock then send it
normal pilot
during CA all your pets replicate all your spells
round oracle
please no I have my petattack bind same button as cancelforms
royal zenith
Rather have a full on pet spec at this point
static scaffold
Does anyone know of any good Balance guides (videos), Wowhead makes my brain turn off 😂
nova ocean
It's funny that the strongest moonkin has been since the new talent tree system was df s1 where we spammed wrath on lunar and targeted the non prio mob with starfire because the splash did more damage and we had to lose dps when we took solar beam
pallid bay
Does anyone know of any good Balance guides (videos), Wowhead makes my brain tur...
turn it back on
static scaffold
turn it back on
pallid bay
static scaffold
drifting nova
It's funny that the strongest moonkin has been since the new talent tree system ...
psst talent tree rework bad
pass it on
stone ledge
Anyone who’s done mythic nexus king, what causes the stuns that are seemingly random. A lot of people are just getting stunned into a mind control and nobody can figure it out
lusty echo
How good hekili is for the spec? Purple parse possible?
fair mist
is there any world where on like a low streets i would play keeper?
mighty mica
How good hekili is for the spec? Purple parse possible?
no
fair mist
what is the "m+ keeper" build lol
round oracle
Anyone who’s done mythic nexus king, what causes the stuns that are seemingly ra...
isn't it just death on that boss, so you just die?
pallid bay
that is quite literally the mechanic of the fight
you don't die, you get stunned, healed to full and then MC:ed
scenic mist
Anyone who’s done mythic nexus king, what causes the stuns that are seemingly ra...
in p1 when your hp reach 0 you are stunned for 1.5sec and then mced
often it happens when you are at like 60% hp and take idk 3 claws so you are oneshoted
hence ppl not understanding cause they dont see themselves dying
eager raft
Thyme lying u can absolutely purple parse with hekili
mighty mica
correlation is not causation, hekili is not good
lofty depot
Thyme lying u can absolutely purple parse with hekili
maybe on hunter
mighty mica
you can parse purple with it installed, but it's not becausse of it
eager raft
Ok that’s a good point I apologize for saying you were lying
wicked shuttle
Based
pallid bay
correlation is not causation, hekili is not good
proof?
twilit saddle
lofty depot
idk did u read the title bar
maiden pasture
https://tenor.com/view/rolling-cat-gif-24663663
eager raft
Arctic u gotta cut the fkn attitude buddy
lofty depot
lol
eager raft
Full single target rotation btw zero aoe buttons
lofty depot
did like 40m that last pack up the stairs
eager raft
The pulls must be ginormous
lofty depot
i cant do that without pressing double incarn and having a 6 stack for said 2nd incarn
eager raft
Ye but he isn’t pressing any aoe buttons
eager raft
gotcha
limber granite
Yoyo fellow owls, what trinkets do we play? Sims are kinda mixed
lofty depot
In what lvl ?
19
serene elk
Wtf
limber granite
in M+
lofty depot
yes
pallid bay
Deux is that you ? <:sus:961128257938423878>
normal pilot
did you lose your sprout
scenic mist
you got me there 
zenith sonnet
guys can someone help me sim for m+
normal pilot
faq in compendium in pins
zenith sonnet
i need 1 on 1 guide if anyone is free to teach me how to sim for m+ im a fast learner so wont be a headache
grand bobcat
Both of you are using the mythic plus build for elunes chosen? If so I think you...
Actually no, i was playing m+ spec elunes chosen, considering the fight as aoe one. I haven’t log unfortunately of that fight, anyway i checked on details and i saw that numer of spells castes was very similiar but the main difference was the number of crit which was like the double. That’s the why i was asking if i should considering pushing some crit
pallid bay
best way to sim m+ is to simply dont
lofty depot
Actually no, i was playing m+ spec elunes chosen, considering the fight as aoe o...
no one is logging progression?
thats badass
formal crest
upper anvil
Actually no, i was playing m+ spec elunes chosen, considering the fight as aoe o...
i dont really think so, maybe if he has antenna but still not sure about EC with that
fast parcel
anyone know why simbot is failing to work for balance?
normal pilot
are you trying to use dungeonslice
normal pilot
looks like you have some outdated custom apl
lofty depot
why r u using a funny apl
fast parcel
because I probably didn't worry about simming it since was forced to be resto this tier
honest patio
Random question. Was looking at the quick sim when helping a friend with the sepc and see that, for some reason, moon fire up time in teh sim in only like 27%. Is there a reason for that? feels odd but might just be a quirk in the sim?
fathom nebula
Show the sim
sleek verge
Look under force of nature for your other 70%
honest patio
Ah thank you, used to WCL attributing that to me. Didn't think to check if the sim did it differnetly.
lofty depot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2vpPa2XFaqAF17pQhj537i
chjange this too
craggy sonnet
rhetorical q?
craggy sonnet
show screenshot
loud kettle
or am I dumb
well, you do play boomkin
craggy sonnet
zug zug not giving you any bonus points i think
loud kettle
Size is in display, if its the whole pack change the scale value
craggy sonnet
thats a cat
craggy sonnet
Size is in display, if its the whole pack change the scale value
really dont like messing with scale
drifting nova
yeah these
craggy sonnet
fricks pixel perfect
craggy sonnet
can you like not crop this to the tiniest portion of your screen?
what kinda WA are we talking
loud kettle
probably need to press enter after u change it or smth, I do that by habit
loud kettle
Skill issue
pallid bay
change number, wa doesnt change size
!luxthos
drifting nova
karmic root
Anyone have a good plater profile for boomy?
lofty depot
jundies
stone ledge
Anyone have a good plater profile for boomy?
Jundies and you can get a player mod that changes the color if the mobs aren’t dotted
craggy sonnet
vastly prefer the ones that either change the color of the unit name or the nameplate border
so you can maintain whatever mob type coloring you have going on
drifting nova
is doing a key someone hasnt done before still the best way for valorstones?
delete when
tropic pollen
vastly prefer the ones that either change the color of the unit name or the name...
Do you know of one that changes the border?
civic girder
besides a BL pull, should you always hold incarn for trinket (lilly) in m+?
lofty depot
i mean they should always line up generally
civic girder
the 2nd incarn?
lofty depot
well that implies ur not double incarning first pull
also no u likely wont have it for 2nd
civic girder
ah i see i guess throughout the dung if incarn is up before trinket is it good to hold
lofty depot
but everyone after that...
civic girder
i see
lofty depot
depends on down time
but u shuold also just be using incarn at the start of pulls usually idk
civic girder
watching dwilks and he is holding incarn for trinkets outside of the double use with BL. so i noticed he is sitting on one charge of incarn so i asked him
didnt know!
craggy sonnet
Do you know of one that changes the border?
i know i have seen it in a video. but i cant remember which creator it was from
lofty depot
well yea u dont need to press incarn when it comes up
u have 100s to use it before u lose value
civic girder
so in theory, depending on pace, you could incarn with trinket majority of the dung
civic girder
true
digital berry
As long as you’re mindful of your cds and what’s up when, you’re going to be fine
It’s not like even top players always play perfectly and don’t make mistakes
M+ is not like raid where it’s mostly all scripted and predictable
craggy sonnet
Do you know of one that changes the border?
it seems quazii does have a mod for it in his profile but its not the one i was originally seeing it from
tribal vale
Jundies and you can get a player mod that changes the color if the mobs aren’t d...
do you have a link for the color change mod
vestal veldt
How do normal FOE and eclipse FOE interact?
craggy sonnet
how do you want them to interact?
they both do all the foe things
they just happily coexist
vestal veldt
Yeah that’s what I was wondering, if I FOE a target that had the other one on, would it cancel the other or w/e
Ty ty
craggy sonnet
nope
foes are also not strictly target bound
so even if the target dies, its gonna search for a new one in range
or just stay in place otherwise
lofty depot
Yeah that’s what I was wondering, if I FOE a target that had the other one on, w...
theyre different foe's
we generally dont care about the sundered firm one
like specifically when going into incarn
dreamstate stacks for starfire > sundered
tropic pollen
it seems quazii does have a mod for it in his profile but its not the one i was ...
Yeah, I'm using that one right now, but I was hoping to find one compatible with Jundies. I like Quazii's, but for whatever reason I find it a it harder to read than Jundies. Not a huge deal though, thanks.
craggy sonnet
Yeah, I'm using that one right now, but I was hoping to find one compatible with...
you can just export any mod from quaziis and import it into another profile
also quick google search brought this one up
https://wago.io/gVE-HPJNj
tropic pollen
I tried, but for whatever reason it's not registering in Jundies. I might be missing something obvious. I'll give that one a try, though.
craggy sonnet
dreamstate stacks for starfire > sundered
hear me out .. dreamstate > sundered even if you do not have foe?
tropic pollen
I think I tried thatone though and I couldn't make it have a separate color for moonfire and sunfire together.
craggy sonnet
oh i c
tropic pollen
I might be misrememering though. I've been through a few.
craggy sonnet
for the quazii one .. probably just skim through the code and see if there is any reference to a specific profile name being active or something stupid
drifting nova
whoever voted for ara needs to be sent to jail
tropic pollen
Yes.
opaque dirge
how do I make such a character mark?
lucid olive
whats the full screenshot
opaque dirge
lucid olive
its just a + sign on the middle of the screen, either standalone or anchored to Personal Resource Display
I know for Atrocity UI it's anchored to the Personal Resource Display through a plater script or mod
but how exactly it works I got no clue
you can probably find some easier version on wago if you go looking
Or just ask the streamer in his chat
like this one
opaque dirge
https://wago.io/bqSPEiN5S
❤️
drifting nova
chicken nerf when
snow elm
does shadow meld give you dream state stacks in combat?
maiden pasture
in dungeons yes, in raid no
craggy sonnet
*during boss fights no
stone ledge
Fun fact the mini bosses on ara Kara they don’t as well
lucid olive
are you sure its specifically those and not you playing keeper
craggy sonnet
anything considered an encounter or something
snow elm
What about dungeons bosses?
frigid goblet
for mythic forgeweaver are you starfalling as long as the echo is up or just surge him?
quiet drift
If you have Kindling you Starfall
lofty depot
for mythic forgeweaver are you starfalling as long as the echo is up or just sur...
for prog i was sending surges into boss when i had trees up.. but if u can range the echo u can starfall
frigid goblet
for prog i was sending surges into boss when i had trees up.. but if u can range...
tyvm!
snow elm
I miss using trees to taunt I had so much fun making melee rage with frontals swooping around
iron ore
how do y'all generally sim for m+ I want to see if i should farm a sacbrood/lily to replace my 710 ritual forge I think i should but not completely sure
covert coyote
10 bosses 10 minutes, all gas
dapper wing
1 boss 5 minutes
lofty depot
how do y'all generally sim for m+ I want to see if i should farm a sacbrood/lily...
FAQ in compendium
the problem with it is ineffcient cd presses
u might get better presses u might not
some of my guildies asked me to push
and can say araz being 3-5 seconds off timer
is giga cringe
craggy sonnet
araz shite
dapper wing
Yeah, if you have an equal level lily, lily is probably better just purely because it links up easier
Lily parapodia. For farmable trinkets
iron ore
FAQ in compendium
thank you 
iron ore
the problem with it is ineffcient cd presses
That's what i was thinking because it would be coming up at a weird timing with incarn in keys so i figured with lily i'd at least have a trink on every incarn press basically
woven flint
lofty depot
u can hit the other bosses yes
maiden pasture
i think the weakaura trys to put you in range of the other bosses aswell, same as it tries to do for locks and spriests
lost violet
Me good lazerchick?
maiden pasture
wtf is this
wild dune
lfr
wild dune
not much better
lost violet
how so? i only raid normal
maiden pasture
if your goal is to do good damage compared to other players in normal then you're doing well yes
lost violet
fuck yes! like stealin candy from children!
delicate perch
lmfao
hollow mist
Normal dmg done logs
proud of u pettan keep up the good work sweetheart
lofty depot
Me good lazerchick?
ur parses are against other boomkins so like u could be bottom meter doing 99s
lucid olive
ur parses are against other boomkins so like u could be bottom meter doing 99s
but the other players in the raid are also normal raiders so you're probably topping the meters doing 99s
delicate perch
lofty depot
but the other players in the raid are also normal raiders so you're probably top...
"normal"
dry compass
Don't listen to dg chatters they've become too detached from what normal is
copper locust
is there a weakaura or a addon to track procs for tier bonus?
lofty depot
thers a tierset weakarua in compendium
or u could use OiBalance pack cuz it has it in there and clearly better than what youre using
copper locust
or u could use OiBalance pack cuz it has it in there and clearly better than wha...
ty
stone ledge
someone say lfr logs?
warm briar
ur parses are against other boomkins so like u could be bottom meter doing 99s
I mean that tracks with some of the screencaps I’ve seen posted lmao
Like 100 parse boomkin and right above him is a mage with a 5 grey parse
sonic crag
When we're top, do we mock the other raiders? 🤔
jaunty blaze
Yes
sinful surge
no cuz you get gkickedxD
dusk spear
Does anyone else ever get this weird hybrid of steady flight and skyriding when in bird form?
jaunty blaze
No
lofty depot
When we're top, do we mock the other raiders? 🤔
yes
i actively troll my warlocks for being shit
sonic crag
I used to be the Warlock though, I cant troll them or they'll quit and I gotta go back. Now that I think of it.. that wouldn't even be that bad
haughty sluice
why does
/use 14
/cast convoke the spirits
cancel my convoke in like one third of the cases when i double press it?
round field
Dont double press it?
haughty sluice
right, but I guess it's more of a technical question. why does it cancel the convoke even though the trinket should already be on CD?
lofty depot
dont think its how it works
haughty sluice
I mean it used to, last season I didn't have that problem
forest dust
Jo boys, whats actually going on? Krona playing Keeper in keys? 20 Gambit, 19 Streets -> https://raider.io/characters/eu/tarren-mill/Kronahah
Did someone watch any of his streams lately and can explain?
wide dawn
Jo boys, whats actually going on? Krona playing Keeper in keys? 20 Gambit, 19 St...
Its bugged
Raiderio didn’t track runes well
forest dust
Ah okay 😄
lofty depot
if u want to see his talents u go look at logs
not raider.io
also, hes doing some funny cooking with talents
so yea, just chill til the meta is figured out
wide dawn
Or maybe no specific meta
upper anvil
@lofty depot do you ever sleep or not dreamgrove discord
I see you when I wake up. I see you when I sleep
surreal sorrel
powernap every 5h for 30min
surreal sorrel
relateable
sonic crag
proof?
lofty depot
of what
sonic crag
That he's your 🐐
lofty depot
vital hound
wtf is a crawford
hollow mist
wtf is a crawford
its like a crayfish but for trucks
vital hound
lofty depot
wtf is a crawford
terence crawford is the p4p best boxer
3x undisbuted champ
from omaha
vital hound
severe hollow
I mean it used to, last season I didn't have that problem
its not changed, the reason is you spellqueue the convoke (honestly not sure if you actually can spellqueue trinkets, at all however) because your convoke is last input and you can only spellqueue the last input.
Not totally sure how chicken is played now and how it differentiates, its possible that last season you (almost) always went instant cast -> convoke button in which case the trinket would be used in the gcd downtime after the instant before attempting the convoke and that might be less common now
haughty sluice
its not changed, the reason is you spellqueue the convoke (honestly not sure if ...
That's a very reasonable explanation, as I don't think trinkets are queueable. Thanks
severe hollow
That's a very reasonable explanation, as I don't think trinkets are queueable. T...
even if they would be youd have the same outcome
spellqueuing is last in first(and only) out
haughty sluice
true
maybe I changed my spellqueue window and that's why I notice the difference now
haughty sluice
maybe I had it set to my latency, so around 40 ms, and now I palyed aroudn with a lot of UI packs which might have reset it back to default (250?)
pallid bay
if you go cast -> queue voke through macro -> cast voke -> keep pressing macro
you will be cancelling your convoke
severe hollow
maybe I had it set to my latency, so around 40 ms, and now I palyed aroudn with ...
yes if its at your ping you disabled your ability to spellqueue anything at all
so you have downtime after every spell enabling your trinket
frigid niche
i have a problem when i sims my gems , i can't see if a mix a gems with blasphemite is better than other cause raidbot put all gems at a same stat never a mix . how to fix this ?
pallid bay
shy bay
<@121360917907767296>
Pls tell me, there was a dmg-amp on that 90 mill crit!?!
rich jewel
do you wanna look into why im not getting 100m (im blaming gear!)
Trinkets give lots, if u have secondsry stat passive
ebon parcel
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/59kTzWMkYkaR8D29SP1X1p
hi why am i simming higher for crit and mastery instead of haste and mastery. are there any mistakes to my simming options?
vital hound
Not using the 10k vers proc belt?
which ones that
sonic crag
Disc belt from last tier (overcharged delves). Static charge effect
delicate perch
bozo belt for bozos
wicked shuttle
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/59kTzWMkYkaR8D29SP1X1p
hi why am i simmi...
Haste bad for keeper
vital hound
Disc belt from last tier (overcharged delves). Static charge effect
ya i am using
risin
details lying as well
smh
its 92 in logs
joever
sonic crag
They took our damage
outer oasis
Guys can raidbot sim dungeon slice for M+ as EC?
jaunty blaze
no
outer oasis
Or just make decision between 10 pachwerk 1min and 1 pach for 3min
jaunty blaze
its not supported for balance
craggy sonnet
Or just make decision between 10 pachwerk 1min and 1 pach for 3min
dont do that
read the sim section on dg.gg/balance
outer oasis
Ok ty
vague mortar
for high keys, does tempered vers potion give enough dr to warrant using it over any other pot?
lofty depot
do you wanna look into why im not getting 100m (im blaming gear!)
Send log
Stix sent me a 111m picture from araz
inland arrow
Haste bad for keeper
no hate but
jaunty blaze
lofty depot
no hate but
There's 500 pages he has to edit any given time
And if u the sentence under that it says sim your character
inland arrow
I said no hate for this reason
lofty depot
That doesn't change what I said
round field
for high keys, does tempered vers potion give enough dr to warrant using it over...
No
inland arrow
But I know a ton of friends who have played druid (alts esp) and they just quick check stat prio from wowhead most of the time
round field
Well ur friends are stupid
inland arrow
and when this is what they see they end up trying to get haste jewellery or crafts
lofty depot
I mean, not simming your character do be stupid.
upper anvil
You have friends?
inland arrow
yeah but if you just play alt couple times a week you might not really care you know
lofty depot
Ok, if u only play a couple times a week, ur stats likely don't matter for 10s
pallid bay
there's no reason to defend a guide being incorrect
pallid bay
the main purpose of the guide is for people like akatsundas friends
severe hollow
especially if its basically just order of stats
warm quest
What flasks do you guys use for 14s-1s
quiet drift
E2^-2
eager raft
dumb arctic
lofty depot
Stupid shut up
inland arrow
I wont just say anything anymore then 🙂 I keep on lurking and watching 👋
sorry thought it was a little funny pic
eager raft
No don’t lurk we need to band together to defeat arctic
quiet drift
Least hostile dreamgrove interaction
lofty depot
Grr
severe hollow
I said sim your character which means I'm defending the guide
no one said you defended the guide!
pallid bay
actually didnt
severe hollow
no just said people shouldnt defend
severe hollow
obviously it was implied, just as you defending it was implied
pallid bay
🤯
eager raft
Ok now we're contrarian our contrarian take
ye ur mad
pallid bay
obviously it was implied, just as you defending it was implied
do NOT apply any logic in #balance please
lofty depot
"I implied u were defending it, that doesn't mean I said u were defending it"
Brainrot
lucid olive
Big E Hug?
lucid olive
https://tenor.com/view/lex-monkey-monkey-lex-lex-monkey-typing-typing-gif-392917...
Man that scene in the movie works so good for this gif, couldn't wait for it to come out
eager raft
Man that scene in the movie works so good for this gif, couldn't wait for it to ...
I honestly do not know where it’s from
lucid olive
The Superman movie
eager raft
Ah ok I need to see that still
lucid olive
They're supposed to be writing anti-Superman propaganda on Twitter accounts
It's a good bit
eager raft
hahahaah that’s great
lucid olive
It's out on digital so you can probably pirate it or something, really good comic book movie
Or I guess HBO has it since that's Warner Bros
round field
I wont just say anything anymore then 🙂 I keep on lurking and watching 👋
Arctic is blunt and rude from time to time, but only coming in to ask a question and then complain about the person answering you does not contribute anything
eager raft
surely one of the 6 streaming services I pay for will have it
lucid olive
Arctic is blunt and rude from time to time, but only coming in to ask a question...
Good pasta
lucid olive
yeah but if you just play alt couple times a week you might not really care you ...
Real
I ain't simming my alts until I'm at least 713 ilvl
lofty depot
I ain't simming my alts until I'm at least 713 ilvl
What's the over under ur main isn't 713
inland arrow
Arctic is blunt and rude from time to time, but only coming in to ask a question...
did I ask something?
lofty depot
Damn
lofty depot
High roaded
lucid olive
What's the over under ur main isn't 713
Depends what gear I logged out in
inland arrow
just laughing with recent talk about hunters sandbagging while boomies are literally doing the same
intended or not
lofty depot
?
jaunty blaze
upper anvil
artic stop sandbagging bro
inland arrow
I have my takes. Might not be to your liking, but yeah I kinda see it that way
lofty depot
Yea ur allowed to have a wrong opinion
It's fine
If you spew, you'll get called out on it tho.
jaunty blaze
outdated clickbait guide = sandbagging
lucid olive
What a pointless discussion
inland arrow
guides and such are quite huge source for some people. Non mythic players or only early boss playing ppl
eager raft
misinforming players causing them to perform worse is sandbagging
warm quest
I dunno whenever I ask a question in here poeple usually give me a helpful direct answer, might be the way your coming off if a fight is breaking out
lucid olive
What's your favorite travel form? The stag or the doe?
round field
almost as good ragebait as guilty twitter post
inland arrow
Doe 100%
worldly spruce
What's your favorite travel form? The stag or the doe?
doe for sure
lucid olive
Real
round field
What's your favorite travel form? The stag or the doe?
the raptor
inland arrow
tho I've ran the cat raptor for a long time
round field
and its not even close
warm quest
What's your favorite travel form? The stag or the doe?
I like the furry raptor from the emerald dream zone
eager raft
neither. Zandalari raptor
lucid olive
Someone in my guild told me I was using the ugliest travel form when I used the doe
warm quest
Purple one
lucid olive
The raptors are good too
round field
doe is kinda hideous...
lucid olive
You're hideous
round field
not wrong
lucid olive
I miss the old cheetah before they fixed it..
lofty depot
I dont play a highmountain but their travel form is nice
I like their moose dash
Played with it for a while
pallid bay
If you spew, you'll get called out on it tho.
you'll get called out on it
worthy olive
with how much stacks(Tset) you press your fury of the elune in AOE? Will you press everytime Fury of the elune when its ready or do you cast starfire until a 3,4,5 or 6 stacks? 😮
lucid olive
press off cd
lofty depot
Sometimes ull go 20-30 seconds with no more than 3 stacks. So if u were waiting that whole time u lost a lot damage
lofty depot
Post a log
worthy olive
here?
lofty depot
Shore
lofty depot
Foe before incarn
Incarn on the Starfall gcd
Wasting dreamstate stacks.by pressing woe that early
You got 6-7 starfires in cds, I get 10ish
I guess muscle memory with wrath
But just giga wrong
worthy olive
🥺
fair mist
Looking for some situational advice. Fairly new to boomy but I play the game at a decently high level in general. How do I decide in aoe situations if it’s worth MF and SF on targets?
Two examples: first boss echo dome. Adds spawn and Jump to us, do I dot them and hit some starfall or nah? Also on intermission with the adds spread in two groups. Dot then all and starfall or nah? Seems like they die pretty fast so maybe not work.
Example 2: on dummy p1 would I dot thr add spawn and starfall or nah?
lofty depot
I'm not looking at replay but it seems like tank is waiting for 1 thing to die, but ur also afk
jaunty blaze
Looking for some situational advice. Fairly new to boomy but I play the game at ...
compendium answers this question
generally if targets live more than 6 seconds
lofty depot
Looking for some situational advice. Fairly new to boomy but I play the game at ...
Prio list says if they live longer than 6s
fair mist
Okay but 6 seconds after I am able to get a MF and Sunfire in them or including those casts haha
lofty depot
We did a 15 which I still think they lived long enough, but Sunfire them when they dash to group
Maybe later u'll moonfire a group or 2
lofty depot
Okay but 6 seconds after I am able to get a MF and Sunfire in them or including ...
6 seconds of said dot on them
Sunfire is 5.5 - the amount of mobs
fair mist
I see
lofty depot
So anytime u can dot multiple with Sunfire, it's generally worth
jaunty blaze
if you asking for hc dimmy just send boss
for mythic id check lorrgs
havent been there yet
fair mist
Is there ever a work where we know adds are going to come and we have astral power so we start casting some star falls before they pop out and then when they are out we dot them? Or will they not get the damage bonus of being dotted unless the starfall is cast after the enemy is dotted?
fair mist
Okay so possibly okay to cast it ahead of adds spawning if the situation is perfect
fair mist
Okay good to know. I’m doing 13s/14s/15s and have big damage but I’m really just winging it. Surprisingly enjoying the spec so now I want to figure out how to min max it some.
craggy sonnet
we are just terrible on these adds first boss eco
its the same thing that plagues us in raid
so doesnt really matter what you do
bit different for the intermission i guess
fair mist
Yeah I feel that. I’ve tried to do it both ways and feels like the damage is basically the same no matter how I play that boss
whole cedar
hey! anyone here know why some are playing keeper in high keys, specificly tazavesh and how they play it in AOE then?
craggy sonnet
hey! anyone here know why some are playing keeper in high keys, specificly tazav...
are you sure they actually play keeper and its not just raider.io reporting it wrong because they logged out in raid spec?
sick terrace
hello guys if i want more boss dmg on mm+ as EC what would u switch to get something like goldrinn ?
stone ledge
In that key they have a dk and a hunter, so kotg can fill in as some pseudo prio and decent aoe still
craggy sonnet
Can be so https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-tww-3/14963043-20-tazavesh-s...
you can prolly check krona's stream to confirm .. key likely wasnt public logged.
but it looks very much like ST talents
idk if he is doing weird shit tho
craggy sonnet
In that key they have a dk and a hunter, so kotg can fill in as some pseudo prio...
decent aoe .. but not running AK?
not even mushrooms
craggy sonnet
hello guys if i want more boss dmg on mm+ as EC what would u switch to get somet...
other class probably
whole cedar
decent aoe .. but not running AK?
Tried it on some dummies, burst ok but after thats its VERY skuffed
normal pilot
you really should not be looking at rio like this
whole cedar
makes alot of sense! xD
normal pilot
it's not meant for you to closely examine ppl's loadout
you're just setitng yourself up for failure by misusing the tool
royal zenith
hey guys I heard krona puts sugar in his coffee, should I try this too or do you think it's better to drink tea
lucid olive
makes alot of sense! xD
he was playing this
royal zenith
stone ledge
Bros cooking
lucid olive
or ask for external yeah probably
even if you can live it with full hp why risk it
going bear form on mechanic like that also saves up GCDs for your healers to use on others
jaunty blaze
aight ty
jaunty blaze
yeah i see how it goes
lucid olive
spend regrowth proc with banishment dot, bear form claws
jaunty blaze
eager raft
it's not meant for you to closely examine ppl's loadout
raiderio does specifically call them verified loadouts
so they seem to want you to use the site that way
eager raft
agreed
tender elbow
Yo folks, on mythic Salhadaar, the beams the boss spawns, are they baited by RANGE ONLY or can it go on tanks and melee as well?
(it's not a boomie specific but am progressing it as a boomie)
lucid olive
anyone
tender elbow
thank you
lucid olive
questions like that are better directed to the RLE discord btw
they usually know better and give more in depth answers
tender elbow
questions like that are better directed to the RLE discord btw
I did ask in both, but tyty ❤️
steel charm
How do you guys plan your cooldowns for m+? Like often times I could send 2 stacks of cooldowns into bosses but then be missing them for the next pull which is often with bl, what is the most effective way?
E.g. first boss in priory, you have that super hard bl pull after
For timer is it usually better to keep one stack for that pack or send cds twice i to boss
lofty depot
estimate the time between the boss dying and when you get the next usage
lofty depot
E.g. first boss in priory, you have that super hard bl pull after
yea you press 1 time and save
double ca on the big pull is massive damage
youre worried about an extra 100m damage on a boss when theres billions of damage on the next one
steel charm
I know for overall that its more obviously, just wasn’t sure since prio damage does save a lot of time especially on bosses
But thanks that’s how i do it atm
Getting into 15s and the tank left because bosses took 3mins to kill which seemed normal to me idk
lofty depot
I know for overall that its more obviously, just wasn’t sure since prio damage d...
its not really your job to do so
i generally would only send like that if someone died
steel charm
Makes sense, thanks.
late dawn
was it determined that heroic void kris / crafted OH < crafted Baton?
radiant wyvern
Hey is there a way to macro innervate to a healer so i don't have to mouse-over?
craggy sonnet
a generic healer? no
actually, there is .. the FrameSort addon provides additional macro conditionals that would allow that
@radiant wyvern
craggy sonnet
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xz51gw6zHo6EN9BJvRSKiA
both haste mastery 💀
but no, the initial comparison (and it was at best a wash for me) was between crafted 720 2h vs crafted 720 oh and crafted 704 bracers
lofty depot
was it determined that heroic void kris / crafted OH < crafted Baton?
early on when u werent crafting bracers yes
craggy sonnet
also haste power in the belt
lofty depot
late dawn
i can't tell if you're making fun of me having haste mastery on my stuff or not. and I pulled these talents from the dream grove T_T
lofty depot
- if ur playing keeper in raid, haste is not used
- i doubt theres a talent build on dreamgrove that uses 1m convoke (please show)
craggy sonnet
(at least to get most out of a raid setup)
radiant wyvern
actually, there is .. the FrameSort addon provides additional macro conditionals...
sorry for late response but thanks
craggy sonnet
its just been 5mins, amte .. you are good
late dawn
1. if ur playing keeper in raid, haste is not used
2. i doubt theres a talent bu...
Oh, I should sim it as Elune build. I just happen to be in raid atm.
craggy sonnet
the dagger is also significantly worse in AOE
since the cantrip effect doesnt really scale
stone ledge
Yeah just double checked the page no 1 minute convoke at all
craggy sonnet
and you are just losing out on main stat from the 2h craft
late dawn
guess i just need to go back to the drawing board. Just coming back for the most part after hiatus. Guess stat priorities have changed? According to this, said to top gear.
lofty depot
stats do be changing
we were generally using haste/mastery before i had a few crit/mastery pieces last tier
this tier its all changed, which is just a "you should always sim" thing
pliant girder
On raidbots this is the best option to sim for M+ ?
lofty depot
On raidbots this is the best option to sim for M+ ?
faq in compendium
late dawn
this tier its all changed, which is just a "you should always sim" thing
it doesn't tell me to change anything.
lofty depot
yea i was talking in raid
because u simmed keeper
u also need to change this to latest
pliant girder
faq in compendium
where can i find the compendium
mighty mica
pins
lofty depot
it wont change what ur looking at currently but yea
craggy sonnet
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4C2NHCmeaQeiS1bit7Li6v
what do you expect changes if you select one other shoulder piece and thats about it?
late dawn
what do you expect changes if you select one other shoulder piece and thats abou...
i was thinking gems or something.
lofty depot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4C2NHCmeaQeiS1bit7Li6v
sorry ur in keeper
u didnt replace anything
craggy sonnet
i was thinking gems or something.
you did not select it to replace existing gems
lofty depot
u didnt select always use or only max colors
we alos generally dont use cursed
with the new food, we generally use 1 of the right 4
u also can change stats on the staff and other items by pressing +
craggy sonnet
but still take all the stuff arctic screenshotted to heart for future sims n such
late dawn
i appreciate this, my brainfog from treatment's been bad lately. I thought just trucking along with haste/mastery would be fine enough, but noticing that I have been falling behind as the weeks went on.
lofty depot
i mean it is fine
its a difference in like 2%
but if ur simming and worrying about minmaxing it im gonna tell u whats wrong
if u care about both m+ and raid u can likely run haste/mastery
i just swap neck and rings out
and prefer raid
ill likely craft other shit for m+ in a few weeks
lucid olive
yeah just getting different jewelry is enough really
and if you upgrade 1 you can upgrade other for free too so
late dawn
unfortunately, with my energy levels, i can't commit much to raid. So I'm focusing more on M+. Even then that's a struggle.
but all noted advice.
craggy sonnet
unfortunately, with my energy levels, i can't commit much to raid. So I'm focusi...
if you are mostly focusing on m+, you would want to send mastery haste still and definitely craft a 2h instead of OH
fathom nebula
I KEEP DYING IN DEFENSIVES + BEAR FORM + FRENZIED REGEN + HEALTH POT.
When do we get our defensive buff asweeeeeeell 😭
/rant over
jaunty blaze
skill issue
fathom nebula
Dont call me out like that
jaunty blaze
too late
fathom nebula
I thought this was a safe space
lofty depot
no renewal
lofty depot
yea u dont press regrowth in m+
jaunty blaze
violet mauve
Hey does anyone have a good nameplate for balance? 😄
jaunty blaze
jundies
violet mauve
ill check it thank you
fathom nebula
yea u dont press regrowth in m+
Im talking about raids, im gucci in M+
The trick is to only do your weekly 10s
proven dust
late dawn
Oh that's a hefty rework on gems. Thank you, Arctic.
steel charm
a generic healer? no
Maybe with a weakaura? There’s one for rogues with tricks
To always use on the tank, you need a macro plus the weakaura to make it work
lofty depot
Oh that's a hefty rework on gems. Thank you, Arctic.
i did a funny troll sim
and didnt notice
please dont look at that
i was testing something
fair mist
I’m trying to get my
Guild to let me swap of my sub rogue to boomy. It’s not working well. Especially since we about to kill araz and sub rogue goes brrrr
lofty depot
u think boomkin doesnt go brr?
fair mist
Well not on araz I think?
lofty depot
post log
maiden pasture
W
tawdry oak
wild your in a guild that hasnt killed araz and not letting you play what u want
2 day andy here where we all role need or greed on loot
craggy sonnet
Oh that's a hefty rework on gems. Thank you, Arctic.
keep in mind this only applies to ST keeper .. it is actively worse for EC in m+
to gem and enchant away from haste/mastery .. you can however try to get diff colored gems in for your blasphemite
indigo barn
jesus, can this tier end already? Araz
craggy sonnet
its a major upgrade to get a forge for raid tho .. (even a priory signet is a decent increase over lily)
lofty depot
jesus, can this tier end already? Araz
post log 🙂
also just perspective, if ur fun is directly correlated with your parse against other classes youve been playing the wrong class for a while
should play mage 🙂
indigo barn
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/H61mTpbctgKXwNdv?fight=22&type=damage-done its first kill and I do knocks so its scuffed, but the ww is mw just switching for 3 heals lol
fallen zealot
when sim's as balance, u guys just do the default one or others?
lofty depot
faq in compendium
haughty moon
hey I don't know if this is an appropriate question for this discord but I'm not really sure where else to ask. I've been super interested in mythic raiding in wow for a while because I want to experience the actual prog difficulty. Our guild has no interest beyond heroic and there's not enough people for mythic. my husband (arcane) and I are trialing around for a mythic prog guild and most of them overfill the roster and have a bench. if the guild has 25 people and we are not core does that typically mean we will not get to prog and will just be available when people don't show up? I'm not sure to the concept of bench since in 14 you just have the 8 man statics. I just want to get an idea of what it means to be recruited for a guild's bench here. i'm not interested in farming for loot as much as I just want to experience the fights
lofty depot
damn forgot tress in ur 6m cds
indigo barn
uy can add a lot of damage for sure on next kill
definitely i tend to play too safe on prog when we don't lack dmg, we wiped on bad knocks too many times
lofty depot
its fine, im jsut showing where u can gain dps
because u seemed frustrated
in your case i would be making fun of all 4 of these people
lofty depot
hey I don't know if this is an appropriate question for this discord but I'm not...
uhh depends on the guild and what they need from trails. If theyre filling for incase someoen cant make raid for if they actually need a mage or 2nd mage or w.e. It can also be that they think youre better than some of their current players.
Would be a question for your officers to answer
haughty moon
so if they have 3 mages and he would be the fourth there would be almost no chance he gets to prog right?
lofty depot
if he's at the same skill level or better i dont see the problem but idk why they would take a package of deal of 2 people and 1 being a mage if they didnt want to use said person
fallen zealot
faq in compendium
this?
haughty moon
i guess there's no way to know unless we join and see how they put us in
lofty depot
i guess there's no way to know unless we join and see how they put us in
would just ask the officers before commiting to anything
maybe they lie try to feel that out
haughty moon
in your opinion would it be stupid to look for a mythic roster without a bench?
lofty depot
most guilds will have a bench
u just have to have people benched, 1 for people missing, 2 maybe a certain person is just bad at a fight and u have to sit them
i have a roster of 24, have 3-4 raid spots for 7 people and those 7 people are all the same level of annoyingly floor pov
haughty moon
are you saying there are still useless ppl in mythic?
lofty depot
if ur a trial and play better than core members you will see prog, come prepared to fights, understand mechanics, and understand how to do damage and it shouldnt be a problem
lofty depot
are you saying there are still useless ppl in mythic?
theyre are plenty of people that do mythic content that dont have hands yes
haughty moon
when we tried araz it kinda felt like if someone blinked wrong you would wipe
lofty depot
when we tried araz it kinda felt like if someone blinked wrong you would wipe
yea that do be happening when people that arent used to pressing cc abilities suddenly try to add a new button to their memory
haughty moon
it was more shit like they didn't see a line on them and dispositioned
mispositioned
i enjoyed how
idk the word but you can't be snoozing
lofty depot
lol, i feel like the fight is snooze
haughty moon
oh really