balance

[lofty depot]

u can watch the compendium video

its a little out of date with the opener

the new one is in the pin

but yea video guides are often out of date

[fossil sorrel]

Cheers 🙂

[digital berry]

arctic how do i get to keep NG on soulhunters

no matter what i do i start with either 1 or 0

idk what im fucking up

[lofty depot]

cancel aura and only cast 2 wraths

[digital berry]

so its legit useless

to do any prepull

might aswell twiddle my thumbs

tbh having more asp is a dps loss

[normal pilot]

sounds like perfect situation for nexusking prepull swap

[digital berry]

i have no idea what youre talking about funy man

[lucid olive]

dont starfire after the 2 wraths

just cast 2 wrath without dreamstate up and you will have 2

if you're at 1 its because the starfire eats a stack

if you're at 0 its because you fail the spell queue

[warm atlas]

These wowhead screenshots are sad to look at 😐

[glossy jungle]

dont look at them

[lofty depot]

better than bm?

lock in

if u look at just 1 day

cuz thats how long hte buffs have been in

its fine

[lucid olive]

filter by 90th arctic

poor enhancement shaman

[lofty depot]

were so back

[lucid olive]

only spec worse

[lofty depot]

then u go to max

cuz were all gamers here right?

like just be better

and then nnnnnnnnnnnnn

u go to max boss damage

were top 10

[errant flint]

how do you sim for an aoe sim but not for upgrades just want to see what im supposed to be doing dps wise m+

[lofty depot]

a sim doesnt answer that question

a sim isnt some dps number you should try to achieve

[delicate perch]

proof?

nice edit

[lofty depot]

rekt

[loud kettle]

by the end of the patch itll be feral and boomy at the bottom like god intended

[paper ember]

And resto shall carry the mantle of druid through all content

[lofty depot]

but feral at the bottom bottom

[covert coyote]

top soul hunter parse is in ST / no haste gear

[delicate perch]

is it though

[digital berry]

theres no soul hunter parse with kotg

not a single one

[delicate perch]

it's literally cotti who is 100% playing ec

[loud kettle]

I looked through the other difficulties and its still all ec

[digital berry]

maybe he means soulbinder

[leaden birch]

[digital berry]

which yeah kotg is better

[leaden birch]

in that case, yes, r1 parse on soulbinder is arctic

[delicate perch]

damn no good boomkins anymore huh

[leaden birch]

they all went bm

[errant flint]

the short version: how come?

[digital berry]

cause it doesnt take movement, mechanics and rng into consideration

there is variance

one pull you crit all your dryad surges the next one you crit none

[delicate perch]

are you standing still for exactly that time the sim does with 0 mechanics and 0 movement, no downtime/damage amp/adds anything?

[delicate perch]

me and other boomy being either top or bottom depending on crits

[craggy sonnet]

you can vastly outperform your sim number since even if the general conditions were the same, the sim is running thousands of iterations and averages over them and you do a single digit amount of iterations and something as simple as getting lucky/unlucky with denizen of the dream can be a huge swing

(and lets not talk about tier set crit variance for keeper)

[normal pilot]

you can get close to actual comparable numbers depending on the spec using a fully party dungeonroutes sim, assuming all specs support droute

sims can get you reasonable real dps numbers you just can't do it with the quick simple settings

you'll need to figure out hwo to define all the settings, etc.

[digital berry]

me on soulhunters with 3k haste getting 1 stack of 2p between foes

second ca without 6 stacks is criminal

[lofty depot]

should get some new gaer

[delicate perch]

bros still using the funny ring you think he's getting some haste off slots?

[lofty depot]

tragic

shuold farm better

[digital berry]

i cannot be bothered this boss is a joke anyway

[covert coyote]

not kotg, EC but with ST gear

[delicate perch]

how do you know that isn't their best st gear

are you @quiet drift

[covert coyote]

[delicate perch]

but also it's an early boss who cares

[quiet drift]

What

I forgot wrong gear set

Pi diff anyways

[digital berry]

oh well

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/axanar-alecpeters-gif-18057396

[delicate perch]

the best loot goes to the biggest rats

[digital berry]

[polar wharf]

is it worth to use Veteran Antenna? compare to parapodia hero track?

[lofty depot]

sim it

[river galleon]

huh haste weap enchant strongest rn?

[delicate perch]

yea bloodmallet is sick defs use it

[weary siren]

why are you being so rude

[river galleon]

Like yesterday i saw versa one highest on the list. Idk how this shit work

[delicate perch]

how is that even rude grow up man

[ionic oak]

it dont work

[delicate perch]

bloodmallet stinky, sim your character

[river galleon]

ik ik but i always check different stuff just in case

[delicate perch]

that is not somewhere I would check

honestly didn't even know it had enchant sims

[urban crescent]

Why did authority of the depths fall off so hard this season

I would have expected even radiant to be better since its main stat

But secondary stat enchants popping off rn

[sterile mantle]

can someone tell me for soul hunters intermission - should we be starsurging the active one or starfalling the whole time. is starfall even hitting the others up in the air during intermission

i know we can hit them and dot them while theyre up there but idk about starfall

[river galleon]

When they are in the air they are closer to stars falling down, making them to take damage faster.

:kekw:

[upper anvil]

Did it sim higher. Im curious

[river galleon]

Interesting. Maybe that's because i am lack of crit strike

[lofty depot]

that do be why u sim yourself

[upper anvil]

Ima sim you artic

[novel stream]

Hello! New boomie here!
I have a question on the Fury of Elune with Elune's chosen build for M+.
When I got two charges of Fury of Elune, is it better to cast both on different targets (big pack) or is it better to cast the first and then the second when first expires?

[lofty depot]

gonna see a big numby

[upper anvil]

6m yet?

[lofty depot]

no

[upper anvil]

Garbo. Trashcan

[spring stratus]

can you time all 4 empowered starsurges into the 12 seconds damage amp on mythic araz

[upper anvil]

Disappointmenr

[lofty depot]

u dont get 2 charges of foe

im confused

[lofty depot]

if u go look at my log yes

[spring stratus]

can you link it please ❤️

[upper anvil]

You don't get 2 charges of foe. Only incar

[spring stratus]

or if log is too much just character name so i can search myself

[delicate perch]

ya they def mean incarn

[river galleon]

Or he meant this one FoE

[delicate perch]

well unless you are literally afk that won't work

[lofty depot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/z6aXtMdmNqGpxZLw?fight=14&type=casts&source=3&view=timeline

[upper anvil]

That sounds bas tho. 25% and you havw to stand in pack

[novel stream]

Sorry I got confused as well. There's an autoproc 'astral beam' which comes when randomly and I was wondering if I should cast another FoE when that happens. But maybe I'm mixing things and the effect is different!

[delicate perch]

the procs are just procs

press foe

[lofty depot]

as anew boomkin, dont worry about that ever

[upper anvil]

Im not new boomie. What does he mean

[spring stratus]

thank you so much!

[delicate perch]

he is not replying to you

[upper anvil]

Ik. But I wanna know what he means

[delicate perch]

foe good

press it

don't think

[upper anvil]

Yes true

Me no think

I press buttons in keys

[delicate perch]

you had me till keys

[upper anvil]

Numbers go up till I get shot 4 times by add

[delicate perch]

log out

[upper anvil]

I mean

Where tf yoy using foe

Beaides hunters

[delicate perch]

right there

fellowship beta next week

keys are done for

[upper anvil]

Uh huh

Keys good tho. Its nice relaxing mindless gaminf

Go in press buttons. Number goes burrrrr till frost dk comes out of no where

[delicate perch]

Keys good tho. Its nice relaxing mindless gaminf

[upper anvil]

Then you become sad and question why you play ramp classs

I on phone. Me typing bad

I also tired

[delicate perch]

[novel stream]

Ok thanks! 🙂 i'll do!

[fair mist]

does this mean if we run potent enhancements we only CA when we have 2 charges?

[lofty depot]

no

[lofty depot]

also i do some funny things there cuz i was trying to get double ca for 2nd amp

a lot of people push without geting 2nd

[smoky remnant]

dont u love

when u let a sim run for 35 minutes

just to get this shit

[loud kettle]

Never happens to me because I dont bother with gem/enchant sims

[smoky remnant]

wild

[fossil hemlock]

Gems are such a small part of your damage breakdown

As long as you have gems that aren't awful stats, it'll be good enough and probably within the sim margin of error

The main purpose of my gems is to give me 10% movespeed so I can run fast

[ember badge]

is BOE Belt ilvl714 better then Durable Information Securing Containe ?

[round field]

Sim it?

[ember badge]

i did i just dont get it how it is allmost 100k

[round field]

What power is your belt set to...

[ember badge]

crit -but when i mouse over it on simc it dont show -

[jaunty blaze]

[blazing thicket]

whys boomkin shit

[round field]

You may have fucked something up

[blazing thicket]

why is boomy still this bad

[jaunty blaze]

Why are we simming gear compare

[round field]

Idk why ur suprised

[blazing thicket]

didnt we get a 4.7% buff

i dont understand why its still THIS bad

[round field]

Its been shit for 4 years

[blazing thicket]

it has yah and it sucks

but WHY

[round field]

Why not

[blazing thicket]

We had a close 5% buff, why are we still the bottom

[ember badge]

hoow do i add boe i dont have then ?

[jaunty blaze]

I mean this is with stats from pre patch innit

[round field]

In topgear

[loud kettle]

yo you gotta give it more than a day

For the charts to catch up

[blazing thicket]

really? this was a wowhead post from several hours ago

[loud kettle]

For last week

[round field]

Set it to past day

[loud kettle]

Not this week

[jaunty blaze]

But they aggregate it over a week

[blazing thicket]

idk how to check

how are we looking now

[jaunty blaze]

Check again next week

Should be a clearer picture

[loud kettle]

Yea just give it a week

[jaunty blaze]

It wont be great either

[loud kettle]

Its not gonna be owner but itll look better than current at least

[blazing thicket]

5% looks like we may pass assasination rogue

but still bottom 5

[round field]

Me and cotti got 99 on soulbinder

And we were bottom dps

[blazing thicket]

99 but compared to otheres?

[round field]

[blazing thicket]

yah lol ffs

like when i was pumping 95 percentiles as an rdruid but i got beat by hps by the hpally who had a 62 percentile

[round field]

I mean

[blazing thicket]

last tier or somewhat

[round field]

If you wanna top meters

You roll of druid

Simple as that

[blazing thicket]

i am a 660 day played druid, most rdruid

[round field]

Unlucky

[blazing thicket]

i play boomy when they look good. they barely look good lol

[round field]

Travel back in time

And roll mage

[jaunty blaze]

It is what it is

[pallid bay]

[blazing thicket]

being a tank/heal/dps spec makes it so easy to do m+ and get involves in everything without problems

druid is my one class, i play three specs, not feral

[jaunty blaze]

I mean feral isnt doing significantly better

[shadow kiln]

How to parse on soolbinder my team destroy add so fucking fast

[blazing thicket]

not rn yah, and its harder to do

[round field]

Hit boss

[pallid bay]

owning..

[jaunty blaze]

Beat the tank tho

[round field]

Bro i got

Griefed so hard last raid

Someone dashed on me on soul hunters killing me with hunt

[pallid bay]

ethical boss dmgur

[blazing thicket]

focus ST or tell people to ignore adds. most cleave tho

[round field]

4 people stacked on me when i got walk break on fract

And then i had to play king

[pallid bay]

how did king go

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-cat-gif-24663663

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-dog-cook-fish-gif-10102414190813837425

[blazing thicket]

killed M fract this week. my god. i drop my circle on the wall on right, then sometimes i have to drop my wall at the back left 2

nothing i can do but run around

[round field]

Dont ask

[vale pebble]

was good other than the 3 new ppl on the fight

[trail dune]

You guys play ec or kotg in m+ now?

I suppose for the Weeklies it doesn't matter, just curious

I was Lucky enoufh to win roll on soulbinder staff last week from a pug run so contemplating sending boomie once in a while

[round field]

Ec

[livid jay]

@round field

[round field]

Fat fuck

[indigo barn]

Wrong difficulty, we are actually busted, both DPS specs OP.

[round field]

[hollow patio]

So on soulbinder mythic, we just go keeper, blast into boss and only starfall when the rest of the adds come out?

[round field]

Ye

[harsh jungle]

Not even 5 mil

[pale hollow]

Cos u selected a range of 1 week, and the buffs have been out for 1 day?

[frozen solar]

Hey guys i've been trying to dive a lil into my logs and one big diff i see is average dmg of my surge (took my fractilus myth kill for example).

AFAIK its that I semi-often run out of starlord towards 2nd half of my eclipse and i dump surges to get back to 3, would this be correct to assume i should mb not do that and do it with balance of all things on the next eclipse?

I could share the log, didnt want to bother ppl with a log review instantly 😛

[pallid bay]

couldnt resist some starfall presses

even if they were worthless

[livid jay]

Share a log where you think you've done well and we can take a look if we spot anything sus. For your question: If you try refreshing starlord at the start of an eclipse, that should almost allways automatically line up better. It is definitely a good habit to have some ap ready for when you enter your eclipse (unless you are at the end of CA/Incarn, then you want to dump in double eclipse). But minimizing your time outside eclipse and your time on low starlord stacks is definitely more important individually than the "when" of them both

[frozen solar]

Ah alright thanks, i was unsure how to attribute the avg damage diff of starlord of my logs vs other tops ones, first idea was the balance of all things buff.

This is the log im looking at from last night, I am still forgetting the 2CA vs 1CA tree timing as I caught myself mid-pull too 😛
I was 'expecting' this to be decent but was not, so im trying to see if i made any bad habits under excuse of 'its prog' 🙂

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TQNLWRFm1kJ9rt7P?fight=39&type=damage-done&source=12

i believe we had a ninja pull like -4s in so I just dotted into my opener.

I was looking at this originally (its surge cast in BOAT windows) top me, bot rank 1 log.
on his end clearly surges are front loaded while mine is sometimes spread. i wasnt sure how much this added up seeing the avg dmg diff

[blazing thicket]

lol

[lofty depot]

why u gemming 1 color

where ur 2nd embell

[frozen solar]

gem color = lazy, i'll sim and fix you're right.
2nd embel im planning to craft a shoulder (wrongfully sent crests)

[lofty depot]

u send bracers with enchatned runed crest

and let it sit at 704

but since u have w.e. the fuck those bracers are

[frozen solar]

let me resim but i think from dropimizer it didnt outsim my myth wrist

that was the plan, that crest is still in my bag

[lofty depot]

i mean yea, it probably wont

cuz of ilvl

[frozen solar]

ye

[lofty depot]

but juyst wouldnnt have takent htem

cuz that shits cringe

[frozen solar]

ye i think i got it very early since i crafted staff

[lofty depot]

its probably shoulders crazy

[frozen solar]

this was from last night

[lofty depot]

hm

[frozen solar]

legs i got myth tier since then so i thought shoulders to get the embelish

[lofty depot]

those dont have embells tho

[frozen solar]

dropimizer doesnt auto put them on?

that sucks

i have since forever thought it did....like many expansions forever

[late gorge]

best trinkets for m+?

[frozen solar]

i'll add them individually to the top gear this time

[round field]

It never did...

[hollow patio]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7YvZYZfuHTSzoJ7ix2PtqQ

i feel like im simming very low. Is it Because i got high haste atm. Shall i recraft offhand with crit/mastery?

[delicate perch]

[frozen solar]

fuck 🙂

[sudden flame]

spent 60 gilded crests on wrists 🥀

[round field]

I spent 60 gilded crests on wrists...

[sudden flame]

[round field]

Well what else do i spend them on

[lofty depot]

Gooder items

[round field]

I had no items...

[livid jay]

you did your first cooldown window correctly but your second should be different no? Should you not use trees two globals into CA on your second one when you dont have double CA

[frozen solar]

that's the one i mentioned i caught myself doing it wrong. you're correct

gotta hit the dummies a bit more to cement it in for mid-fight

[humble mauve]

Maybe a dumb question but if you're double CA do you hit that second CA after you use your two stacks from tier?

[livid jay]

check the dreamgove guide pinned to the channel it has a opener sequence for that question

and no, you use second CA before you dumb the two stacks to feed these two massive surges into the second dryad

[lofty depot]

2nd CA after convoke

[livid jay]

dont have a lot of time right now to check more closely but your casts dont look too bad
i just see that you are regrowthing yourself a lot, do you not have healers?

[silk shard]

so that your two stacks go within 2nd CA + treant window

[lofty depot]

Yes

Generally 2 buffed surges and 1 normal surge at the end of ur trees

[frozen solar]

No worries thanks either way, ye on earlier bosses i found surviving a bit rough and when bear form uptime hit 10-15% i realized better to use the regrowth proc a bit more on CD. There is one spot i do accidentally hard cast it but that's a rare case.

[humble mauve]

Yeah I def misread it then

[livid jay]

healers grey and greenlogging while the boomie has 10% bearform uptime xD you should get the weakaura i once made that whispers every healer in the raid to heal you better whenever you have to press bearform 😄

[frozen solar]

genius 😄

[humble mauve]

I need that WA

Considering I am now playing boomkin (was rsham)

[livid jay]

it was a meme and was never used cause it would be toxic af xD

[cold root]

How is balance in m+ after buffs? I’ve seen a few having real decent overall.

[round field]

About 2% better than before

[tawdry oak]

whats a real decent overall to you?

[glass spade]

For me it feels awful right now, after 17 years i just see the class balance and feel man are they kidding me. M+ is extremly boring as boomie with all the cc, no burst and squishiest force to go bearform.

[round field]

You were meta in minigame last season

Stop yapping

[plain fiber]

Ive played a decent amount of keys this season, boomy feels okay if u get carries by meta classes otherwise its not fun

[sudden flame]

welcome to normality

[plain fiber]

Like if i play with mage/dk/dh/prot pala its fine but if i have another aoe class with no prio dmg in my key its hard

Survivability in 16-17s feels okay, some dungs rly spice (priory)

[outer cargo]

Guys i am rly tempted to try Kotg in m+...any thoughts ?

[plain fiber]

Dont

[round field]

its shit but no one is stopping you

[outer cargo]

i mean not in priory ot halls

[round field]

its still shit but no one is stopping you

[outer cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/i-wanna-do-it-alex-rider-i-want-to-try-it-im-doing-it-otto-farrant-gif-24207966

li in streets and gambit there is a lot of big mobs

[pallid bay]

you can do alright with kotg

its def harder than performing with EC though

[plain fiber]

just send it in some randoms key

[outer cargo]

i will ruen some ppl keys to test it 😄

thanks

not in priory, halls or flood offcourse

[delicate perch]

hmm

[spiral gate]

hey guys, what would you pick from the vault? since i dont do mythic raiding, i understand that the hero track boots will be the best i will get on this slot for the rest of the xpac. they sim better than the staff too. but since i usually only get 1 myth track item per week its still a tought choice.

[maiden pasture]

Long term I would take the staff, you're probably never replacing that staff as an m+ main

Short term boots are massive but once dinar comes you can just buy them

[round field]

You cant buy it if you dont raid..

[maiden pasture]

Well he's clearly killed the boss to have HC boots in vault xd

So he can just buy HC ones

If he will never get mythic

[round field]

Dinar heroic item...

[maiden pasture]

Minigamers....

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-cat-gif-24663663

[livid jay]

which of you was this xD

[delicate perch]

lmfao

[livid jay]

someone needs to type it off that so i can copypasta it

[jaunty blaze]

He is so real for that

[delicate perch]

I’m done being benched like some second-rate utility bot while our raid leader continues to fumble through fight comps like it’s his first time reading a dungeon journal. I’m in for just 2 out of 5 fights tonight, and I’m only brought in for Forgeweaver Araz because—surprise!—I have the knockback. So I’m good enough to clean up your messes, but not good enough for consistent damage output? It’s bullshit, especially now that boomkins just got a 5% buff, which our fearless leader is clearly too incompetent to account for. We’re no longer some niche utility class hanging on by a Typhoon—we’re the kings of ST, AOE, and funnel damage, and the logs WILL prove it. Unlike that flaming dumpster fire of a Retribution Paladin Discord that rage-quit their own channel like a milk-starved bunch of toddler babies, our community didn’t threat suicide — we stood tall because we actually have integrity and knew what we deserved. But apparently, integrity and performance don’t matter in this raid—just outdated perceptions and playing favorites.

So consider this my resignation. You can figure out Forgeweaver Araz without me—good luck finding another knockback that isn’t on a 90-second cooldown or attached to someone doing tank-level DPS in a DPS slot. I’m not going to be your crutch anymore. Enjoy wiping.

[pallid bay]

J'en ai marre d'être mis sur le banc comme un robot utilitaire de seconde zone pendant que notre chef de raid continue de se débrouiller avec les compositions de combat comme si c'était la première fois qu'il lisait un journal de donjon. Je ne participe qu'à deux combats sur cinq ce soir, et je ne suis engagé que pour Araz le Tisseur de Forge parce que – surprise ! – j'ai le recul. Alors, je suis assez bon pour réparer vos dégâts, mais pas assez pour infliger des dégâts constants ? C'est n'importe quoi, surtout maintenant que les boomkins viennent de recevoir un bonus de 5 %, que notre chef intrépide est clairement trop incompétent pour prendre en compte. Nous ne sommes plus une classe utilitaire sympathique qui s'accroche à un Typhon ; nous sommes les rois des dégâts de ST, d'AOE et de canalisation, et les logs le prouveront. Contrairement à ce Paladin Rétribution enflammé qui a quitté son propre canal comme une bande de bébés affamés, notre communauté n'a pas menacé de se suicider ; nous avons tenu bon, car nous sommes intègres et savions ce que nous méritions. Mais apparemment, l'intégrité et la performance n'ont aucune importance dans ce raid ; ce sont juste des idées reçues et des préférences.

Alors, considérez ceci comme ma démission. Vous pouvez vous débrouiller avec Araz, le Tisseur de Forge, sans moi ; bonne chance pour trouver un autre effet de recul qui ne soit pas lié à un DPS de niveau tank dans un emplacement DPS. Je ne serai plus votre béquille. Bon nettoyage !

[delicate perch]

[jaunty blaze]

Fr*nch

[delicate perch]

@ paper

[livid jay]

oh no xD

[delicate perch]

paste it

[jaunty blaze]

I’m done being benched like some second-rate utility bot while our raid leader continues to fumble through fight comps like it’s his first time reading a dungeon journal. I’m in for just 2 out of 5 fights tonight, and I’m only brought in for Forgeweaver Araz because—surprise!—I have the knockback. So I’m good enough to clean up your messes, but not good enough for consistent damage output? It’s bullshit, especially now that boomkins just got a 5% buff, which our fearless leader is clearly too incompetent to account for. We’re no longer some niche utility class hanging on by a Typhoon—we’re the kings of ST, AOE, and funnel damage, and the logs WILL prove it. Unlike that flaming dumpster fire of a Retribution Paladin Discord that rage-quit their own channel like a milk-starved bunch of toddler babies, our community didn’t threat suicide — we stood tall because we actually have integrity and knew what we deserved. But apparently, integrity and performance don’t matter in this raid—just outdated perceptions and playing favorites.

So consider this my resignation. You can figure out Forgeweaver Araz without me—good luck finding another knockback that isn’t on a 90-second cooldown or attached to someone doing tank-level DPS in a DPS slot. I’m not going to be your crutch anymore. Enjoy wiping.

[livid jay]

I’m done being benched like some second-rate utility bot while our raid leader continues to fumble through fight comps like it’s his first time reading a dungeon journal. I’m in for just 2 out of 5 fights tonight, and I’m only brought in for Forgeweaver Araz because—surprise!—I have the knockback. So I’m good enough to clean up your messes, but not good enough for consistent damage output? It’s bullshit, especially now that boomkins just got a 5% buff, which our fearless leader is clearly too incompetent to account for. We’re no longer some niche utility class hanging on by a Typhoon—we’re the kings of ST, AOE, and funnel damage, and the logs WILL prove it. Unlike that flaming dumpster fire of a Retribution Paladin Discord that rage-quit their own channel like a milk-starved bunch of toddler babies, our community didn’t threat suicide — we stood tall because we actually have integrity and knew what we deserved. But apparently, integrity and performance don’t matter in this raid—just outdated perceptions and playing favorites.

So consider this my resignation. You can figure out Forgeweaver Araz without me—good luck finding another knockback that isn’t on a 90-second cooldown or attached to someone doing tank-level DPS in a DPS slot. I’m not going to be your crutch anymore. Enjoy wiping.

[full hill]

Hey all - Im not sure if im doing something totally wrong, but in +10/11/12s I just do more dps with KoG. But everywhere says definitely don't pick it. I do more burst, I do probably same sustain. I think I must be playing elunes chosen wrong or something, but I never have many stacks of gathering moonlight and the burst just isn't as good. Any thoughts?

[delicate perch]

impossible to tell without a log

slow to dot
bad cd usage
low uptime
cancel casts

lots of reasons

[full hill]

Should I be doing way more damage with elunes chosen? Or is it just better on massive pulls / the right pull

[delicate perch]

generally you should be, keeper does fine inside of cds but then you're kinda beans for a while

[snow elm]

What’s the chances boomies get another buff in .5 patch

[jaunty blaze]

Non zero

[orchid leaf]

Another aura buff inc

[sick terrace]

pretty good translation actually

[round field]

Fr*nch 🤮

[severe hollow]

50%

[jaunty blaze]

Either it happens or not

[signal temple]

There are children here, you monster

[potent cargo]

start pinging people called tim

one of them will eventually respond

[wise hare]

only took a day to fix my ap bar

[dim fox]

any idea of what happened here?

[round field]

wtf

[pallid bay]

magic

[dire osprey]

I’m done being benched like some second-rate utility bot while our raid leader continues to fumble through fight comps like it’s his first time reading a dungeon journal. I’m in for just 2 out of 5 fights tonight, and I’m only brought in for Forgeweaver Araz because—surprise!—I have the knockback. So I’m good enough to clean up your messes, but not good enough for consistent damage output? It’s bullshit, especially now that boomkins just got a 5% buff, which our fearless leader is clearly too incompetent to account for. We’re no longer some niche utility class hanging on by a Typhoon—we’re the kings of ST, AOE, and funnel damage, and the logs WILL prove it. Unlike that flaming dumpster fire of a Retribution Paladin Discord that rage-quit their own channel like a milk-starved bunch of toddler babies, our community didn’t threat suicide — we stood tall because we actually have integrity and knew what we deserved. But apparently, integrity and performance don’t matter in this raid—just outdated perceptions and playing favorites.

So consider this my resignation. You can figure out Forgeweaver Araz without me—good luck finding another knockback that isn’t on a 90-second cooldown or attached to someone doing tank-level DPS in a DPS slot. I’m not going to be your crutch anymore. Enjoy wiping.

[lucid prism]

why don't we want crafted belt with double ascension effect?

also can you get both the crafted wrists and the crafted belt?

[worldly spruce]

ascension embelish is only on weapon

i think belt and wrist are kinda the same but we have disc belt

[maiden pasture]

Myth level belt lower upgrade because disc belt good

[lucid prism]

you can craft the belt that doubles the weapon effect though

[maiden pasture]

Once disc belt nerfed, crafts will likely be belt + wrist

[lucid prism]

okay cool

it's getting nerfed right, i don't even have the disc belt

so i'll just craft wrists and belt then

[worldly spruce]

nerfed at .5

[lofty depot]

U can get it

And be not nerfed for 3 weeks

[lucid prism]

okay

ty guys

[obsidian jetty]

smolder proc on a big starfire

hope that helps

[maiden pasture]

We're so fucking back

[crimson pagoda]

My hero

[wise hare]

ngl iam most likely missing half the new shit

but hey

[maiden pasture]

What new stuff 😭

Add a dryad tracker and you're sorted

[lucid olive]

Track Touch the Cosmos and the Dryad

[wise hare]

well last time this worked was in DF

[lucid olive]

All you need

[wise hare]

talents are fucked a bit

[round field]

you dont need touch of the cosmos

[wise hare]

and my custom options to track any buff is bricked

[pallid bay]

custom option to track a buff sounds like ancient technology

[oak cypress]

Do u need different gear if u wanna do raid or mythics? Im looking at warcraftlogs, and the stats are totally different it seems because in raids people go keeper?

[wise hare]

well not really

[lofty depot]

I generally switch rings and neck and do fine

[wise hare]

ive used it to track procs and trinkets and such back then

[oak cypress]

ah i see

[quiet crystal]

Do i need to track dryad

Heck

[lofty depot]

Probably smart

[woven flint]

what if you drop all orbs behind the pool so you wont need a knockback you in for just 1 fight ?

[lofty depot]

It's a copy pasta

[round field]

yo keeper kinda cranks

yall fucking lying

[lofty depot]

Damn, ur group has no hands, that's bad ass

[round field]

thats the secret

no minigamers have hands

all grps suck

would be better

if i didnt kill myself with forge

cause i got meleed

[dire osprey]

[round field]

i hate demon hunter

[dire osprey]

you'd think its hard for a ret to fuck up their rotation but here we are

[round field]

isnt it just press the glowing button

[tired granite]

Bro came back to the game with one mission, create the ugliest wa pack known to man

[dire osprey]

nah it kinda slaps lowkey

[livid jay]

i been cranking in my weekly 10s and 11s yesterday with keeper too
its way more fun than mindless starfire spam

[dire osprey]

i just ripped parts from the big boomy wa pack because there were about a trillion buttons on my screen

[tired granite]

Ap bar is fine but all that shit below it

Icky

[livid jay]

boomkin in EC in keys just feels like you are playing wackamole

[livid jay]

you have not seen mine

[dire osprey]

i kinda have the same as that, except its just trees/convoke/CA and dryad icons

[woven flint]

i know but a little outdated since most are dropping behind now

[delicate perch]

macro renewal to it

[pallid bay]

3 button wackamole

[delicate perch]

lmfao stealing that

[round field]

Ur so right

[azure wolf]

Is KOTG more viable now?

[delicate perch]

nope still sucks

[round field]

Wrong

Im blasting

[maiden pasture]

8.5 in balls with mage and DH buff and 2 non hands DPS is not blasting

[delicate perch]

to be fair it probably is blasting for the average minigamer boomkin

[round field]

i died

on the biggest pull

after pressing cds

xd

[last walrus]

Does anyone know how to fix this?
After dying or when I change talents, the Nature's Grace proc doesn't activate.

[round field]

Die again

[dire osprey]

cracked me up

[pastel hearth]

@minor relic Hey mate are you there ? 🙂

I just watched your video guide on season 3 by curiosity

You are using a WA in the video that allows you to see out of all ennemies that are in combat with you how many have your dots up. Could you please share this WA ? 🙂

[civic junco]

Pretty sure it’s this https://wago.io/xqXGZm6lw

I use a modded version of that weak aura in my own UI

[pastel hearth]

Great, thank you 🙂

[civic junco]

You’re welcome. I think he might use a slightly different one but, it’s really all the same info. One of the moonfire trackers just says STONKS if you have dots on every one

[pastel hearth]

it is indeed this one he uses with stonks

[round field]

Should use eye weakaura instead

Smh

Skill issue

[civic junco]

Yeah I edited down the stonks WA for mine. I am on mobile though rn and can’t find that specific WA.

[violet orbit]

why are casting moonfire on pull when treants automatically cast it? is it a dps loss to let treants cast it cause it could be delayed and the first surge doesnt have moonfire up?

[pallid bay]

yes

[violet orbit]

tyty

[livid jay]

fucking vegetables

as i like to call them when they do everything but dotting the damn boss

[inner plover]

Treants are slow and you already want to press SS and not wait for them to apply Moonfire

[paper ember]

Yeah if they are slow to apply then your surges wont get the damage bonus.

[celest geode]

KOTG or EC for raid?

[devout hazel]

kotg for everything other than soul hunters

[paper ember]

Could EC for soulbinder as well if youre feeling saucy

[round field]

Ec for soulbinder bad if ur raid isnt full of cripples

[devout hazel]

i was about to type that, theres an argument for EC on soulbinder but i cba personally

those adds get evaporated instantly

our double fury warrior, ret paladin and enhance shaman war crime any add in existence LOL

[inner plover]

Tbh i still pulled more DPS on 3rd boss with EC last week then KOTG this week

[paper ember]

Yeah if your raid is melee heavy youre better off playing kotg lol

[devout hazel]

i mean EC can just be better if your group basically does 0 add damage

[round field]

Skill issue

[devout hazel]

me personally, im gonna play kotg i like seeing my lil 50m starsurges

[inner plover]

EC have bigger "burst" for AOE, if you have heavy comp on AOE, with KOTG you have 0 chance to do DPS to ads then you can just enjoy your ST DPS 😄 its all about numbers right ? 😄

[devout hazel]

the way i look at it

[inner plover]

Ppl do big DPS there cuz skiping mechanics then tanking more ads and padding more damage

[devout hazel]

there are classes that are better/more efficient at killing the adds so im just gonna turret boss and mentally afk

[upper anvil]

thats how it is, everyone has their role to play

[inner plover]

unless you want nice parses, then this is way to go for team. Aproved

[upper anvil]

boomie isnt a bursty cleave class so adds doesnt really mattter unless certain bosses or your comp just doesnt have the cleave damage

[upper anvil]

you can parse high just by ST the boss

[round field]

You can log 99 without padding on adds

[upper anvil]

damage is damage

[inner plover]

nah you cant do not spread lies pls

[round field]

Sound like

Ur bad

Dont project on me

[inner plover]

😄

[upper anvil]

🤣

[inner plover]

I mean you are good in HC right?

[round field]

No one cares about hc lilbro

FUCK IT WENT DOWN TO 98

[upper anvil]

L

[devout hazel]

the rank 1 log is playing kotg on soulbinder LOL

[covert coyote]

well the mage was a 1k io carry without 4piece

[upper anvil]

soulbinder mostly a ST fight anyways

[inner plover]

Yes but they play around ads

[upper anvil]

let your comp cleave the adds

[round field]

No they dont

Adds line up with ur 2m and 4m

[upper anvil]

oh yeah artic holds number 1 for soulbinder

ofc his gonna play keeper on soul

[round field]

Put arctic in good guild

And he is pig

[lucid olive]

fraudtic

[upper anvil]

yes youre right i agree

[livid zephyr]

Is this easy to modify? Like moving the 3/6 text and the icons?

I have an extremely old one and I like having the icons side by side and the counts above the icons.

[round field]

Yes

[strong bronze]

How do you guys play soul hunters while soaking?

[round field]

You just click and drag

Its super simple

[quiet drift]

Move

Starfall and Wildcharge

[livid zephyr]

Dope. Thanks.

[quiet drift]

WoE / FoE

[simple pebble]

Which would you run in m+ if you had same ilvl, Parapodia or Ritual forge?

[round field]

Why are we comparing a passive to an on use

[marsh lava]

i'm a resto druid that is being conscripted by my guild to play balance for tonight's raid. i'm hoping to maybe out dps the tanks.

what is the easiest balance talent spec? for the last couple seasons i've quested in balance and have gone Elune's Chosen -> Lunar Calling because it seemed to simplify management of eclipses. should i stick with that or no?

[simple pebble]

this discord in a nutshell

[lucid olive]

whats your 3rd one

[round field]

?

[simple pebble]

Antenna

[inner plover]

I use in M+ ECO trinkets and in raid using Araz + Feather

[lucid olive]

double passive isn't bad in m+

and 2m CD with forge can be cringe

[inner plover]

Araz is weird with EC idk. Ecodome trinks are better in M+. Maybe gonna run Anthena when get Myth track but 1,5min on use is to go for me

[upper anvil]

antenna isnt bad in keys

[simple pebble]

there you go, thats why

[inner plover]

Yeah but tbh you lose alot while running in keys from my experience. I have Myth Parapod and Champion Anthena now so Parapod is better anyway now

[round field]

Ur comparing apples to carrots

And then complain ur fruit salad is bad

This isnt school

There are dumb questions

[simple pebble]

nah you are the stereotype of these class discords, you could just be quiet or answer the question

[craggy sonnet]

i'd just go with parapodia and antenna

[lucid olive]

nobody cares bro

[round field]

Mby use ur brain

Instead of crying

[jaunty blaze]

[round field]

Fucking minigamers

[upper anvil]

i have no issues getting orbs in keys

i like it with para, i replaced my lily with antenna

[round field]

Side note yesterdays raid was blessed

2x antenna 2x forge

[lucid olive]

iqni is blunt and rude from time to time, but only coming in to ask a question and then complain about the person answering you does not contribute anything

class discords are not an ai chatbot made to answer your specific question

[jaunty blaze]

pay for coaching if you dont want attitude

[haughty moon]

is anyone able to shift into flight form during the dimensius flight simulator portions?

[lucid olive]

no

[maiden pasture]

He questioned your question because it wasn't a sensible question. If you answered what he actually said instead of complaining you would understand the point but you decided to cry instead

[low sigil]

coaching is well worth it. having one of the best boomkins in the world look over a POV with you and point out mistakes, make suggestions, share tips, etc.. its crazy the value you get. the rates aren't even expensive. hiring a local golf coach is more expensive than hiring one of the best boomkins in the world to coach you for an hour.

[maiden pasture]

@lucid olive how much did you pay him to write this?

[low sigil]

i wasn't referring to him.

[lucid olive]

?

[jaunty blaze]

#sponsored comment

[lucid olive]

i've never done coaching

that's a tarisant sponsored comment

[maiden pasture]

Holy

[lucid olive]

@lyric stag your ad chatbot is loose again

[maiden pasture]

I'm done with raiding for the tier

Did zDps on nexus king but it doesn't matter cause that boss is a joke now

Legit only thing you can die to is terrorist blaze lines or the spikes in P3

[dim phoenix]

Can someone explain to me why we press Fury of Elune before we press ca on aoe?

[jaunty blaze]

because otherwise you waste a global inside your incarn

[dim phoenix]

wait wut do we play incarn in m+ build?

[round field]

Yes?

[jaunty blaze]

yes you do

[dim phoenix]

Can someone link m+ build plz

[fossil hemlock]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium

Bookmark this

[maiden pasture]

For updates the damage it does when you press incarn and the chance of -1 Starfire in incarn because you wasted a global in incarn is not worth the the extra buffed tick

[dim phoenix]

Im talking about soul hunters boss kill i havnt seen a single incarn log?

[jaunty blaze]

you play m+ build on soul hunters pretty much

[lofty depot]

?

[jaunty blaze]

so you do play incarn there

[lofty depot]

In what world

Show a log

If someone playing convoke

[dim phoenix]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jXYWhHztMcN3bV8a?fight=40&type=casts&source=6&view=timeline

[jaunty blaze]

he literally has it

[lofty depot]

Ok so do we not know what incarn is or

Please respond

[dim phoenix]

im confused

[lofty depot]

That u don't know what incarn is

[paper ember]

Wonder if hes getting celestial alignment confused with incarn

[lofty depot]

Or that you thought everyone wasn't running it

[lofty depot]

Well everyone runs CA always so

[dim phoenix]

I said people use incarn and not convoke on soul hunters from the beginning is that a wrong statement?

[lofty depot]

U said u haven't seen a single incarn log

What

[lofty depot]

What

[jaunty blaze]

i dont think convoke was mentioned tbh

but no you dont play convoke there

[lofty depot]

Also correct never said convoke

Anyway, yes u run the EC m+ build

[paper ember]

Your first question was asking if people play incarn in M+ to which people said yes. You said you havent seen a single incarn log then shared a log of someone playing incarn.. lol

[polar wharf]

Do you hold double CA for the first AMP on araz mythic?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[lofty depot]

Lorrgs.io

[dim phoenix]

Okey so just to clarify on soul hunters we do play incarn and not Convoke correct? That is what i ment from the beginning when someone said we play convoke and thats why we fury of elune before incarn

[lofty depot]

Incarn

No one said convoke when responding to u

[maiden pasture]

Schizomaxxing

[dim phoenix]

sorry mb

[paper ember]

Only time convoke was mentioned was read asking you to post a log of someone using convoke

[dim phoenix]

im tired sry guys!

[lofty depot]

Blud go to sleep the

Ur making shit up

[dim phoenix]

i will cya tomorrow 😄

[paper ember]

What a roller coaster of a conversation

[maiden pasture]

Average balance chat convo tbh

[dry compass]

When you convoke so hard your thought process becomes the random string of bullshit

[boreal brook]

Just make convoke cast starfire instead of wrath if you're EC please

Then maybe it would see play in EC

[paper ember]

the boat + convoke gameplay was top tier in shadowlands. Honestly the best part of that expansion lol

[maiden pasture]

Boatmaxxing in general was just nice

Triple surge at the start of every eclipse

[paper ember]

Especially on first boss in mists when double damage phase started. What a rush of dopamine

[normal pilot]

low effort = high damage usually plays well in wow

that season was the last time you could actually recommend hekili for balance

[paper ember]

Frenzy was fun too after they nerfed boat. Just super punishing lol

[maiden pasture]

Frenzy was not fun

Dopamine from numbers sure but they playstyle was cringe

[paper ember]

I enjoyed the last 3 seconds of it lol

[lofty depot]

only 3?

[maiden pasture]

Ig if Ur just a do big number = fun it's fine

[paper ember]

Yeah from sinful indulgence. After you stacked all that crit and could send surges during the lingering 3 seconds at the end.

[maiden pasture]

At that point surely you enjoy current moonkin

It also bursts super high

[normal pilot]

it's not high enough

[paper ember]

Yeah I currently enjoy the first 20 seconds of a boss. Then its just downhill lol

[maiden pasture]

So same as venthyr

[lofty depot]

Only cared about the end and not about the build up 🙁

[steel charm]

for m+, how do I know when to use incap roar? should I spam that as much as possible when mobs are casting or keep it for cc chains like on floodgate kelps?

[paper ember]

I enjoy the ride. But sometimes the destination is better 🙂

[ionic surge]

Is boatmaxxing when you buy a yacht

[paper ember]

boatmaxxing was like winning the lottery and spending it all in 4 seconds

[lofty depot]

In a pug when shit is going haywire and no one has cc left

[steel charm]

and otherwise with a fixed team? for cc chains yeah? is there like a cheatsheet of where its really useful?

[lofty depot]

When they tell u to

[paper ember]

In a team you usually have a person calling cc chains

[steel charm]

well nobody tells me I am trying to figure out how to best contribute. I guess it would be pretty low on the cc chain ye?

hard cc and silence etc probably better

[paper ember]

Yes usually roar is last resort cc if you need it

[quiet drift]

Just press it if you feel like something is about to go off

[steel charm]

thanks

[quiet drift]

Usually people who actively press Cc dont use it last second

[steel charm]

I figured but with its low cooldown i was wondering if i should just spam it more

[lofty depot]

usually people send doubles where 1 person does 2 links in said chain

beam at the start after vdh uhh silencing sigil

then like after cds and liek 12 other ccs its ursols + typhoon then incap

[livid jay]

Anyone here have a way to estimate time to kill on a raidfight?

[frozen solar]

the time-to-kill timer on MRT

[ionic surge]

You shouldnt actively spam roar but you should always be looking in case you need to use it

[livid jay]

dafaq where does it go

[steel charm]

do you just send beam for the silence in many cases? or best to get the interrupt as well?

[frozen solar]

below the normal timer

[lofty depot]

thers also a weakaura called pace, which estimates from the top like 100 kills how far ahead u are

[ionic surge]

Beam

[steel charm]

yeah that makes sense thanks

[ionic surge]

You dont play with a boomkin and expect him to kick nearly as much as the others. Its kind of expected that you make up for that with general utility and our damage profile

[livid jay]

ah ye, cool ty

[steel charm]

so also just for the silence after mobs are pulled in and e.g. sigil from dh is off

without interrupt

[ionic surge]

You need to check with your team but yea, that should be it

[signal meteor]

for simming soul hunters - do i sim 1t5m or would it actually make sense to bump to 3t5m?

[lofty depot]

Well it doesn't die in 5m so 3t6 or 7m

But there's a lot that goes into that

[paper ember]

Correct me if Im wrong but the sim will play out a little differently as it doesn't take into account the intermission where they separate.

[lofty depot]

1 the whole fight isn't 3 stacked
2 downtime

U can still hit them with starfall in intermission

[digital berry]

Well yeah it’s a sim, it’s not meant to replicate exactly how a fight will go

[signal meteor]

yeah mostly confirming that i want to replace my crafted ring with a lower one just cuz i need more haste

[lofty depot]

Moonkin does however get the far marker in intermission. Should petition reloe and Bart to have moonkin marked with lock

Hmmm

[paper ember]

Youre essentiall running your M+ spec so I always switch to my M+/Haste+Mastery gear for that fight.

[lofty depot]

Yes

[manic monolith]

Hi Arctic

[vernal goblet]

hey guestion 2 weeks ago i crafted the 720 staff with haste mastery for M+ on my alt balance druid purely for M+ with ascendence on it is it more worth to get the wrist with the double ascendence buff on it or the wrist with the vers buff thingie on it? to craft next

[lofty depot]

Sim it

Also should think about simming 720 or 704

Depends if u have other items to send gilded on

[vernal goblet]

it wont let me sim above 701 cuz i dont have hero or myth wrist atm

and how do i make it that it has the vers or double ascendence buff on it?

[lofty depot]

Top gear

Search the item

Scroll down to it and press +

[vernal goblet]

ah i see thanks

[tight dagger]

good logs as Boomie is always about killtiming, change my mind

[lofty depot]

Define good logs

[tight dagger]

98+

and lucky crits at right time idk

[lofty depot]

Crits, padding, and killtiming can play a factor.

[paper ember]

Yeah its basically timing your cd's correctly, getting the crits from dryad, and boss dying fast lol

[tight dagger]

i mean, i have opener with 17-20m dps peak and 12-14

[lofty depot]

20mil

Hmm

[quiet drift]

Parsing is just a collection of variables

There is not a single thing that decides if you get a 98+

[paper ember]

Best parses crit every dryads favor surge

[lofty depot]

Not true

[paper ember]

Ok, most surges lol

[quiet drift]

Difference between Rank 1 and 98percentile

Is like 2mil dps

[tight dagger]

i dont like it, because you can play clean as f*** but still do low dps xD

[quiet drift]

I

doubt

[paper ember]

Just crit more

[lofty depot]

Think I Crit 4/6 of mine on soulbinder

Really close to not "most"

[quiet drift]

You only pressed CA 3 times?

[paper ember]

60% of the time you crit every time

[minor relic]

My bad only just seen this! But yes the weak linked below is it , its abit wierd with affixes and stuff but its good

[lofty depot]

Uhh, I only looked at the last 3

Cuz they cleave 🙂

[frozen solar]

is solehunter's strat just hard starfall all the time?

[meager storm]

Resetting the crit rng

[frozen solar]

or we surge in intermissions?

[quiet drift]

🙏

[meager storm]

Just just real life stuff, maybe somehow I end up escaping the wow addiction

Who knows

[lofty depot]

Starfall

[round field]

idk do you starfall on single target?

[frozen solar]

thanks

[lofty depot]

It's not st

[round field]

wait what

[frozen solar]

not sure if we still hit them while they fly

i think u do hit them

[round field]

you can hit the bosses in the air??

[frozen solar]

afaik yes

[lofty depot]

Smh

[round field]

what the fuck

[frozen solar]

i could even havoc them on hc

[lofty depot]

Blud thinks they're immune

[round field]

bro u think

i pay attention to where the bosses are

while im shitting for my life being tied to a melee

[meager storm]

Fuck the melee u are doing dmg to 3 bosses they are not

[round field]

ye but what if i get yoinked into mechanic

[lofty depot]

True, also melee hit box is like half the roo.

[maiden pasture]

dagger tho

[lofty depot]

Don't get yoinked

[maiden pasture]

[round field]

why are u replaying to 2 day old post

[lofty depot]

When he said RL, I thought he meant raid leading at first

[maiden pasture]

clicked on the dak reply to arctic

for context

[junior thicket]

we cast treants now before ca? what about the 2 second window

[quiet drift]

You move it forward by casting another CA after Convoke

[junior thicket]

but what about the empowered dryad fade surges

[fossil shard]

Still happens

[junior thicket]

but not in treant window or?

[fossil shard]

Your second set of surges was never in a treant window

[pallid bay]

pressing CA again grants your dryads favor instantly

[fossil shard]

Oh he talking first one

[junior thicket]

yea

[fossil shard]

Yah what oi said

[junior thicket]

ah okay

aight thx

[fossil shard]

Welcome to how shit our major cooldown is 😉

[limpid grotto]

CDS wise in ST, we're always sending 2 CA into solo CA into 2 CA into rinse and repeat right? If it's on the last stretch of the boss and you got 2 CA's you're not overlapping 1st CA after convoke right

[lofty depot]

Not always, if the fight only lasts 330 u would hold the 2m ca convoke til the 2nd CA is up.

Also, there's some timings with potent vs grove

[limpid grotto]

these dudes are dying slow ngl

if it's 5min+ we do what I said?

[drifting nova]

is the spellbook new

or am I losing it

[nimble forge]

what ya mean by new?

[lofty depot]

5m is correct yes

[nimble forge]

it did get some facelift in was it in DF...?

[lucid olive]

🙂

[fossil shard]

https://tenor.com/view/laughter-in-times-of-grief-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-laughing-to-ease-the-pain-smiling-through-the-tears-tim-robinson-gif-11438946961182443029

[drifting nova]

no it's an actual book now

[nimble forge]

that was in TWW prepatch then I reckon

[eager raft]

wtb coaching

[magic light]

yo gamers which hero talent for balance is best for m+ ? eco dome

[lucid olive]

elunes chosen

[willow jungle]

Can someone help me go through this log since I aint the best one looking through them, Im asking since i feel like i played as shit https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zRafbBPZy4M8LYW2?fight=25&type=damage-done&source=28

[lucid olive]

treants before ca

Treants 2 globals into CA and then Convoke, pool AP before using CA

Pool AP before using cooldowns

[willow jungle]

Yeee, everything felt wrong

Thanks tho

[lucid olive]

also just in general have a better plan for how to deal with movement

there's a lot of random Sunfire and Moonfire casts which I assume is because you're moving

[prime hill]

For Soulbinder, Elune or KOTG? i've some bursty mate for adds

Played Elune for the first kill

[lucid olive]

Heads is Elune's Chosen

It was heads

Play EC

[prime hill]

Haha! Thks, gonna go Elune so

Always trust coin

[placid olive]

My guild is CRAZY padders lol I almost always just go full ST.

[covert coyote]

irrelevant padding gets removed in logs

[short comet]

i have a question about the compendium, specially the portion about aoe KotG Aoe prio list, why do we want to go into solar eclipse but still cast starfire on 2 target count, isnt it better to cast wrath because of the 15% buff and 40% on wrath? 1 target solar/wrath and 3+ luna/starfire is normal and i understand why but just the 2 target solar/starfire part i do not understand

[covert coyote]

all other add damage is good/necessary for the fight

[lucid olive]

huh

[lucid olive]

i'll send an update on that part and clear it up

[empty nimbus]

how well does boomie do in ST in M+?

[lofty depot]

Keeper >

[upper anvil]

Not the best but not the worst

[lofty depot]

Out burst them

[lucid olive]

give it a few minutes

[placid olive]

No doubt, but when adds live 3> seconds. Lol silly silly

[lucid olive]

also read the Rotational Details part below the rotation sections

[placid olive]

I don’t even bother without a sunfire maybe

[lucid olive]

that part is clearer

[covert coyote]

ya thats why moonkin sucks in raid

[short comet]

no worries, take your time and thx for updating it, just was confused when i went over it again and i saw it ^^

[placid olive]

Uhhhhhagreed lol

[covert coyote]

5% buff with more aoe nerfs will fix the problem though for sure

[lofty depot]

EC AOE nerfs, who cares

[covert coyote]

im progging soul hunters so i do a lil bit

[lofty depot]

U got 2% buff

Who cares

[covert coyote]

it could've been 5%

[upper anvil]

It could've also been 0

[lofty depot]

Yea, that diffy doesn't matter

[upper anvil]

2 be better then 0

[lofty depot]

Optional boss

[lofty depot]

What if I'm in lunar on st

[drifting nova]

uninstall

[lucid olive]

that wouldnt be in the aoe section

[short comet]

yeah i had in my head that on 1-2 targets we cast wrath like it says in the details part, just got confused for a sec when i saw a difference in the priority part, thx for all the work on the side

[paper ember]

Switch to bear form and pretend you’re tanking

[lucid olive]

taunt boss

[lofty depot]

Type shit

[lyric stag]

I don't actively advertise u must have me confused

[lucid olive]

okay maybe it was @carmine vigil

[lyric stag]

1 mutual friend dwilkz

We are all looking for the guy

[lucid olive]

smh

[eager raft]

@round field coach me man

[short comet]

is it better to play ec or kotg on soulbinder in mythic? i know how to play kotg and play fine on it, but when i play ec because aoe fight i feel like i fall apart and my dmg goes really low compared to others

[round field]

press wrath

[carmine vigil]

hey !

[round field]

if overcap press starsurge

[carmine vigil]

@lyric stag is clearly a mage main

[upper anvil]

Keeper

[lyric stag]

I am a whatever is good and meta main

the alternative is being a stinky one trick

[short comet]

like dotting the adds feels bad because they die so fast besides maybe sunfire and the adds only live longer during the add phase when they all come together at 1 point, so whenever i play ec in that fight it just feels bad but that could also be because i know that i play bad/cant play ec compared to kotg

[lyric stag]

and that sounds boring...

[carmine vigil]

you are the 🐐

[lyric stag]

no u

[carmine vigil]

stop it man....

[eager raft]

Thanks big dawg

[lofty depot]

Ur becoming a mage 1 trick

[south field]

What do we use now for Raidbots dungeon siming? Patchwork 5 at 1 min seems way off to me.

[lofty depot]

Beat forgyy on dimmy, he's locked in

[lofty depot]

Well, u can do an MDT sim or u can do a lazy sim

But accuracy is tough

[south field]

Not sure what Lazy SIMS is and for the life of me I couldnt figure out how to do MDT sim

[lofty depot]

The lazy way is 1t5m

For the life of u, u should press Ctrl and F MDT on the compendium

[eager raft]

Put your simc into raidbots as usual, make/import route in mdt, press the generate simc button on the mdt window, enable expert mode on raidbots paste into footer

[lyric stag]

It has been 4 tiers since I played moonkin on any bosses that matter and 2.5/4 of them were mage

I wanna blow up

[lofty depot]

Smh, it's hard out here

[south field]

Giving it a shot, thanks for the assist

[woeful chasm]

I've given up on trying to do any amount of aoe on that fight. I just go full ST and try to get a good boss damage parse. There's no point in trying anymore

[lofty depot]

U can do aoe during the intermission is ez

Everything else just st

[woeful chasm]

Even the intermission adds are dying too fast now. I Sunfire, maybe 2 starfalls to cap tier set, then just blast boss

[lofty depot]

Yea big cleave

[copper basalt]

which belt cantrip do we play on hunters?

[lofty depot]

Sim it

Also this isn't hunter discord

[eager raft]

Soul hunters you dolt

[drifting nova]

are belt effects not in logs

[lofty depot]

That's not a hero talent

[drifting nova]

or are they under something

[lofty depot]

The buff is

But u can use mastery, Crit or vers. U sim it tho

[drifting nova]

lightning rod specifically

not the stat ones

[lofty depot]

Damage procs are in it surely

[copper basalt]

havent seen them show up in logs

[eager raft]

Vers is just generally better than the others no?

[drifting nova]

used a stat one last week

[copper basalt]

and unsure if the logs show the correct one in the "inventory"

[drifting nova]

lightning rod seems dog

[eager raft]

idk anyone still using the belt that isn’t using vers

[copper basalt]

logs say top ones are doing the charged bolts one

[eager raft]

Interesting

[drifting nova]

well doing 500k less on araz from last week so

[copper basalt]

but unsure if that is just a log bug or nah

[lofty depot]

Not looking very hard

Also the tooltip is likely bugged u don't use charged bolts

Shit

God damn rats

[loud kettle]

Ferals arent real and cant hurt u

Ur still r1 druid...

[lofty depot]

Oh, ok thanks for the confirmation crazy

[loud kettle]

np im here for you

[drifting nova]

is belt nerf out yet

[loud kettle]

No

[jaunty blaze]

Nope

[ebon sail]

What's the buff called in details when you used a tempered potion? Trying to check buff uptime across raid team.

[drifting nova]

y me do less dam

[loud kettle]

Tempered potion

Details isnt really a good way to check

itll only show so many buffs

So it chops off the lower uptime ones

[severe hollow]

yea using logs so much better (and easier)

[ebon sail]

Ty I'll check WCL just wanted to see if I could do a quick check between pulls.

Were progging nexus hc, so wanted to make sure people are actually buffed up and potting.

[royal zenith]

very suspicious how you're only showing your logs that have adds @lofty depot

sussy

[lofty depot]

buddy it was r1 boss damage

what about it

tbf, i jsut want a boomkin r1 on all logs

and that was mine

[royal zenith]

[fossil shard]

Ur no pi tho 💪🏼

Ez W

[lofty depot]

so true

look at the r2 guy

fuggn 730?!?!?!

[fossil shard]

What the

[drifting nova]

outskilled

[cloud citrus]

our kill was pre long this week cause half the raid killed themselves

[scarlet tapir]

padder

[lofty depot]

i surged the boss

what u mean

[round field]

did u press starfall

[lofty depot]

yes, its intermission the adds gotta die

[round field]

padder

[lofty depot]

we might die

[round field]

cope

[eager raft]

iqni

do i always hold for 2 charges of ca

[round field]

idk

[eager raft]

man PLEASE

[round field]

i think u do like

2 1 2

with the cdr thingy

[eager raft]

i havent touched this spec all tier and i have to play it on nexus king tn cuz our druid is sick