were often not the best in any fight
#balance
crude void
our cleave doesnt exists
jaunty blaze
aura buff wasnt what we needed
crude void
thats why I was giga cringeing last tier when guildes called Rik Reverb a good druid fight coz of 'spread out aoe'
crude void
The problem is that even 15-20% wouldn't do anything on these fights
jaunty blaze
yep
crude void
apart from being strong on the pure boss damage
jaunty blaze
the spec is inheritly bad designed to deal with modern raidfights
crude void
the class would still not be able to deal good add damage
lofty depot
the spec loses a lot to do fake damage
warm valley
20% would bring our boss damage to an insane level wym?
crude void
As I said apart from being very strong only boss damage
it wouldn't do anything with our non existant cleave
warm valley
Well with a lack of cleave we are what, 25% behind? So 20% would make our boss damage unbeatable
jaunty blaze
feral and boomies yet again fighting over who is more dogshit dps spec
crude void
Feral is basically suffering from the same as balance being very lackluster on multi taraget fight
loud kettle
It is good, the raid just doesn't match the 2 things we can do really well
jaunty blaze
you hate to see it
sudden flame
Turns out specs that are bad at burst aoe perform worst
ember badge
and the worst or bottom 5 in the majority of them
I totally agree with you that overall, across the whole raid, we’re one of the weaker specs. But if you look strictly at pure single-target output, we’re actually doing really well.
Of course, I’d also love for us to be much stronger at cleave or AoE — don’t get me wrong. The real issue, in my opinion, is that we’re so weak in cleave and AoE when so many raid bosses actually rely on those damage profiles. On those fights, we just can’t keep up.
crude void
its just stronger than boomie in pure ST
lofty depot
I totally agree with you that overall, across the whole raid, we’re one of the w...
sure... but most of hte raid isnt pure st
loud kettle
raid design in general doesnt lend to what druid dps can do
Its been a problem since shadowlands at least
lofty depot
and if ur taking a spec because it does really good pure st, it better do some insane pure st
and were not even top 5 in that
warm valley
One day theyll slip up so hard that they nerf us underground for two expansions just so it never happens again
sweet belfry
A whole class rework is needed for that i dont believe there will be any for upcoming 3 expacs lol
lofty depot
One day theyll slip up so hard that they nerf us underground for two expansions ...
weve been underground for 2 expansions
warm valley
weve been underground for 2 expansions
Yeah but somehow it would get worse 
warm valley
Nah, I've played past two expansions, believe me I know
lofty depot
ayo were goated
crude void
well blizzard introducing split tier sets with hero talents raised the opportunity to make druid at least "okay or mid" in both scenarios because they could have really made KoTG into a good single target 'which kindof they did with the tierset it's just underetuned' and EC could have been more cleave or good aoe focusd, but EC's set interacts 0 with anything so we kindof got that EC for Aoe KoTG for single with the different sets but they resulted in a very lackluster output
lofty depot
thank god the raid is pure st
they undertuned the tierset cuz the damage profile
such damage profile is either giga busted op or dawgshit
and theres no inbetween
jaunty blaze
just crazy to me the didnt even remotely nerf the top specs
lofty depot
that is the crazy part
warm valley
Destro taking over fr
crude void
What would they have nerfed?
crude void
Destro is not the best on pure ST, their single biggest outliar fight is soul hunters
jaunty blaze
and they would still blast
lofty depot
problem might be they cant nerf them yet cuz not enough guilds have killed said boss
lofty depot
Destro is not the best on pure ST, their single biggest outliar fight is soul hu...
IT DOESNT NEED TO BE THE BEST ST
warm valley
They love 3% aura nerfs and 5% aura buffs, a very rare 8% aura buff for the truly destitute
jaunty blaze
a very rare back to back 8% aura
to top of with another 5%
and yet the spec still sucks
weird innit
crude void
As I said Soul Hunter is the outlier fight for destro they are not even close being this ahead of everyone in any other fight
warm valley
Let's nerf the EC set again, 50% wasn't enough
crude void
this fight alone pushes their average quite high
lofty depot
As I said Soul Hunter is the outlier fight for destro they are not even close be...
u sure
crude void
MM is giga RNG
warm valley
When a 12% parse can beat a literal #1 parse on any other spec there is a problem.
jaunty blaze
they funny thing is its a 3 target fight and they mostly hit only 2 targets
crude void
Desto havoc goes ungabunga
noble spindle
surely 5% would fix that
crude void
5% but let's still nerf the EC coz its already mid
lofty depot
well its not mid
crude void
it is mid
lofty depot
ec is one of the probably top 5 or 6 dps specs
crude void
no
statistics from the top 2000 keys done
its in the bottom 3rd
on pure DPS
so its literal mid
lone root
so its literal mid
Strange world u live in
crude void
Strange world u live in
?
warm valley
Only thing mid about EC is the tierset, can get zero procs recieve no bonus damage and still blast 
crude void
EC is nowhere near the strength of s2 EC
DH not being played as a tank even reduces importance of beam
If Prot + rsham wiill be the meta duo for M+ I highly doubt that balance will see any play
pearl linden
Does the changes make m+ net neutral or is it a minor nerf
crude void
minor buff
jaunty blaze
minor buff
late sapphire
what is minor moon on elunes chosen dmg breakdown
jaunty blaze
about 2% buff for ec in m+
crude void
they intentionally kept EC out of being really good on M+ with this change
problem is that now EC's whole tierset is even bigger of a joke
no matter they aura buffed it 5%
jaunty blaze
truuuu
misty patrol
Does it matter though
It is still a damage increase for EC
not like it was bad to begin with
warm valley
M+ damage is a looot closer across the board than raid damage, that Lil 2% may not seem like a lot but it'd be enough to shoot balance all the way from 18th to 7th in M+
crude void
It is still a damage increase for EC
My problem is that the playstyle is so blank and you are pretending your set doesnt exist
sour gale
Ec still pref in m+ after September 9th?
crude void
I would rather do the same damage with some fun effects
jaunty blaze
yes
sour gale
Ty
misty patrol
I would rather do the same damage with some fun effects
I think thats fair
warm valley
Id rather the damage bonus be smaller but i get max stacks every time, rng is lame
jaunty blaze
i wouldnt expect it to boost your st numbers considerably
clever ibex
Assa says hi on ST
wild blaze
Is keeper somewhat competative in m+ now?
crude void
Ecodome first boss is where the tanks even beat me
delicate perch
Is keeper somewhat competative in m+ now?
late sapphire
would much rather a EC tier set duration buff to 40 sec and a proc chance increase than a 2% buff tbh
jaunty blaze
well
but we didnt get that
and apparently they dont want to give us that
or are even aware of it
late sapphire
losing stacks between every pull is fun
jaunty blaze
not even getting a single stack in between foe uses is fun too
late sapphire
lol
jaunty blaze
can happen
late sapphire
happens all the time
crude void
EC tierset is singlehandedly the worst fucking set design ever
delicate perch
Wrong
crude void
Will you elaborate on that or you just typed wrong and went for bits and cookies
late sapphire
if it wasnt on a dot class it would be fine but with having to dot and setup for next pack yeah its terrible. needs longer timer
delicate perch
Will you elaborate on that or you just typed wrong and went for bits and cookies
Unless this is your first season or you’re just being dramatic it does not take a high iq to realise it is in fact not the worst ever designed
We had a tier set that increased sunfire range and dot damage in a raid with next to no aoe 
crude void
strength wise it sounds worse but design and gameplay wise I would still bring this season's on pair with that
I am not actually hating on the dps it gives but acting like it doesn't exist
is very boring
delicate perch
You’re actively playing probably the least interactive spec in current wow
vital hound
We had a tier set that increased sunfire range and dot damage in a raid with nex...
sunfire range
was lit tho
warm meteor
So with the next changes does it mean that on aoe pulls dmg will be buffed a bit or mostly for st (only talking about m+)
shadow kiln
Don’t touche other classes this is criminal
delicate perch
sunfire range
Should’ve been base line 
vital hound
fr
tribal stone
XD
5% flat buff… and they still think it will work xD
trim ether
My sim suggests A LOT of haste for kotg st and I see people play 9k haste, can you elaborate
jaunty blaze
even 9k is too much
delicate perch
Calling it now, 10 target 30s keeper sim for “m+”
jaunty blaze
vital hound
muted citrus
delicate perch
I can’t count anyway, also bench Vez
muted citrus
killing him
vital hound
@charred peak thoughts
delicate perch
Thanks
vital hound
wait isnt he already benched
delicate perch
Naaaahh I was typing that
muted citrus
he won't be able to respond I killed him
delicate perch
vital hound
imagine not being a buff class
jaunty blaze
vital hound
delicate perch
imagine not being a buff class
He’s a 
user now
muted citrus
zar plays priest
delicate perch
vital hound
muted citrus
though he did 21st for forge lol
vital hound
charred peak
I can’t count anyway, also bench Vez
im already benched 
charred peak
wait isnt he already benched
yes 🙁
charred peak
he won't be able to respond I killed him
oh
vital hound
safe kite
I totally agree with you that overall, across the whole raid, we’re one of the w...
Fractillius is about as pure ST as you can get and we're still shit on him.
keen pebble
Fractillius is about as pure ST as you can get and we're still shit on him.
Yeah just check the logs and you don't need any other proof. Unfortunately we do nothing good in this raid. I'd rather bench boomie have a stack of lets say 4 mages would be much better
severe hollow
he won't be able to respond I killed him
Gotta hide now
vital shard
jaunty blaze
no way
onyx sundial
lime canyon
on 1st boss in eco dome, do you even cast starfall? or just single target the boss the whole time? adds get deleted in 0.3 seconds
delicate perch
Grats you answered your own question
lone root
on 1st boss in eco dome, do you even cast starfall? or just single target the bo...
No point to starfall if there is nothing .3 sec after you press it tbh
golden belfry
on 1st boss in eco dome, do you even cast starfall? or just single target the bo...
Only aoe the devour adds
lime canyon
Grats you answered your own question
well there could be other casts. like do i save fury of elune? do i even bother casting sunfire at least?
in reality it's like 3-4 seconds on a 12 that they live
golden belfry
Little guys that jump everywhere are irrelevant, just stack with rest of group
lime canyon
so i could get off sunfire and fury of elune
lone root
well there could be other casts. like do i save fury of elune? do i even bother ...
They die in 0.3 u said. What do u think u gonna do with sunfire or one elune tick ?
delicate perch
With how short foe ends up being I can’t imagine there being any reason to hold it
lone root
Hold it to hit 7t without dots that will die beflre next gcd is available hmmmm
barren orchid
So the buff is mega meh right
agile nimbus
5% st buff, minor aoe nerf imo?
jaunty blaze
check pins
vital shard
m+ will be little buff
but it will not adress the actual problem we've in the manaforge raid especially in cleave fights
jaunty blaze
if you call that love
limpid grotto
a little something is better than nothig
it's not like there's not going to be future tuning
It's unfortunat that it is not what we'd hope/like but it's a small something
The alternative is being left in the same situation/nerfed, and neither of those are satisfactory or welcomed, so be glad a buff hit even if not the most optimal
scarlet tapir
does anyone know if droptimzer sims all stats of boe drops and just presents the best?
tame merlin
2% buff rofl. still a dead spec
Sims at 2%?😅
agile nimbus
2% on aoe which is already insane lmao
uneven furnace
hol up, ppl still use mmo champ?
tardy jasper
my biggest pet peeve in all of the world of warcraft sphere is people saying "whenever" instead of just when
potent cargo
put the fries in the bag whenever you want
severe hollow
my biggest pet peeve in all of the world of warcraft sphere is people saying "wh...
what are you doing whenever that happens?
jaunty blaze
whenever did someone even say that
vital hound
im not entirely aware whenever someone does it
stuck cove
what a slap to the face by blizz
sonic crag
With these massive changes to Balance Druid, how many times do I now need to press Starsurge? 🤔
round field
does anyone know if droptimzer sims all stats of boe drops and just presents the...
If only there was a prompt in droptimizer that let you pick stats for the boes
Such a shame there isnt one
Truly a tragedy
left sapphire
Do I send Fury of Elune whenever or wait until Gathering Moonlight reaches high stacks? Purely M+ situation.
jaunty blaze
send it
scarlet tapir
If only there was a prompt in droptimizer that let you pick stats for the boes
ngl thought that was for crafted items
gg
tight dagger
but it will not adress the actual problem we've in the manaforge raid especially...
Thats it … there is still a Problem …
And the 5% will not bring us to the top of fractilus
pearl linden
Close the discord
round field
ngl thought that was for crafted items
Gg cant read
stuck cove
Close the discord
^
vital shard
Thats it … there is still a Problem …
It's not the goal to bring balance to the top I suppose
The goal should be to make the spec rewarding enough when playing good on it. That means it has to be competitive. That's right now not the case if the other people play on the same level.
It is actually the fact, that if you have to switch targets you do damage like a tank lol 😄
storm frigate
well it helped me hit 3k so now i can at least get invites on alts while playing something better. is that the goal?
tardy jasper
well it helped me hit 3k so now i can at least get invites on alts while playing...
well it seems like you got placebo'd because it isnt live until next week
storm frigate
I hti 3k before it was announced, I was referring to balance in general
jolly rover
restive cosmos
in M+, how important is it to ensure that all mobs in a pack have moonfire? not sure weighing casting that 5 or 6 times vs. just getting into builders/spenders
mild badger
in M+, how important is it to ensure that all mobs in a pack have moonfire? not ...
From what I understand it's a matter of spamming until all mobs are stacked up then switching into aoe rotation
granite bobcat
Any Reason why Void-Touched Fragment would be as bad as the sims suggest?
restive cosmos
From what I understand it's a matter of spamming until all mobs are stacked up t...
okay, thanks. what happens when everything’s stacked up and 10 mobs still don’t have moonfire, just AoE rotation?
mild badger
^this is true higher keys I'd say moonfire everything but on lower keys swap over once everything stacked. You should be able to get most before the tank finishes grabbing everything
restive cosmos
yeah, and I’m only just venturing into higher keys, so I was wondering what others’ perspective was. pulls like Gambit first pull, Ara’kara first pull, etc. on 12+
if I dot everything, the pack is half dead and I’m doing tank damage. if I do aoe rotation primarily, I start wondering if I’m missing out
plucky siren
first pull in gambit is special i'd say, personally just done up to 15 but i dont moonfire small murluks, i find the prio targets and moonfire them whilst the tank gathers, usually end of with around 8-10 moonfire active vs 25-30 sunfire
thorn dove
lol the pala discord has a whole section about boomkins 😛
crude coyote
Hi im new to balance, and i enjoy the spec is really fun and it does tons of dmg. How viable is for raiding rn on this tier, i just came back from vacations 😅
distant cairn
vital hound
Hi im new to balance, and i enjoy the spec is really fun and it does tons of dmg...
v bad
pearl linden
Vbad + 5%
crude coyote
Really? I heard it was buffed and some people said me it is time to play it right now
faint cairn
we are toping the bottom when we are out of cd's 
crude coyote
i was trolled?
restive cosmos
first pull in gambit is special i'd say, personally just done up to 15 but i don...
perfect, thank you. how about something like Flood first pull, none of those are little like some of the murlocs in Gambit
thorn dove
Hi im new to balance, and i enjoy the spec is really fun and it does tons of dmg...
if you think its fun go for it!
If you care about viability play mage or warlock
crude coyote
I love raiding, and my raid leader was asking me what i was about to play, my first idea was to play boomkin but it seems i was trolled when some people said me it was doing tons of dmg on raid, probably toping on dps
But it was buffed 5% last round of class tuning is it right? is it not enough?
distant cairn
But it was buffed 5% last round of class tuning is it right? is it not enough?
also had its tierset nerfed
plucky siren
perfect, thank you. how about something like Flood first pull, none of those are...
for floodgate first pull i'd say moonfire everything always, those mobs wont die within the first 8 seconds of the pull and therefore its worth.
usually i start moonfire as we go onto the platform, keep moonfiring all the ads until tank as grouped, then sunfire and turn on blast mode
crude coyote
also had its tierset nerfed
So i should not play this class?
distant cairn
So i should not play this class?
id say play what you enjoy 😄
steel charm
also had its tierset nerfed
Tier set is actually a slight buff if you combine with the aura buff
distant cairn
Tier set is actually a slight buff if you combine with the aura buff
the tierset is nerfed. with the aura buff we got a slight overall dps increase
steel charm
I wouldnt say nerfed then because it was adjusted for the aura buff
Not actually nerfed
distant cairn
I wouldnt say nerfed then because it was adjusted for the aura buff
the tier set gives us less dmg now, so the tierset strength is nerfed
but overall as a class we do more dmg
sort of how lets say sunfire lost 5% dmg but starsurge gained 5%. overall we got buffed but the sunfire dmg went down, it got nerfed
restive cosmos
for floodgate first pull i'd say moonfire everything always, those mobs wont die...
perfect. thanks!
solar arch
for floodgate first pull i'd say moonfire everything always, those mobs wont die...
Plus try get on that box, pain in the arse at times 😂
turbid crypt
Plus try get on that box, pain in the arse at times 😂
i learned at an early time how to jump on that box because if you raided during cataclysm you had to jump on the platform out of the lava on the neltharion/onyxia fight
if you can do that jump everytime the box jump became a joke
restive cosmos
I usually run straight for it and then start damaging. if I had hands, I could probably do both. I'm an old man
wintry stone
why do we have unplayable moons ? i really miss legion times
round field
Cause blizzard didnt make them good
robust trail
What is the best sim option to pick to sim for balance dungeon gear
round field
Moons doesnt rly work with current iteration of the spec
restive cosmos
when simming, what option should I choose for fight style if I want to see what trinkets are best for M+? it says dungeon slice is not available (shutdown the discord IMO).
maiden pasture
I'm tryna work out if I actually enjoyed playing moons in fyrakk tier
That was the tier we played it right?
And we just did all moons in incarn windows or
restive cosmos
appreciate the suggestion 7
fossil hemlock
I'm tryna work out if I actually enjoyed playing moons in fyrakk tier
I think it was aberrus, I vaguely remember it on Rashok
worldly spruce
We played it on amirdrassil too
solar arch
i learned at an early time how to jump on that box because if you raided during ...
Space bar then W so it’s that smaller jump
open harbor
Can someone explain to me how to sim with the changes? I saw the pinned message but i dont really understand how to implement it in advanced mode
cloud plover
Can someone explain to me how to sim with the changes? I saw the pinned message ...
you click expert mode
you copy paste it into header
you click latest in options
done?
sick terrace
Really? I heard it was buffed and some people said me it is time to play it righ...
They lied to u
crude coyote
They lied to u
Rly? in what way? from 1 to 10 how bad is boomkin rn
void abyss
for m+ they are ok for raid they are bad
the buff will maybe make boomy be middle of the pack for raid, its a 4,7% dmg increase but boomies were at the bottom
magic hound
old prairie
the buff will maybe make boomy be middle of the pack for raid, its a 4,7% dmg i...
middle of the pack was almost 10% higher than us, we'll still be at the bottom just not the last one
jaunty blaze
You will still be last on everything that isnt pure single target
void abyss
middle of the pack was almost 10% higher than us, we'll still be at the bottom j...
yeah, I was coping
but I mean, if you remove soulbinder, boomy is a lot less trash
jaunty blaze
True and all the other encounters except for plexus sentinel loomithar and fractillus
Heard about this 3 target fight where boomie should be good
Well we arent really
At least better than feral on araz
void abyss
its just that locks are ridiculous in soul hunter. and the other fights except soulbiunder boomies are bad but not as bad, and this 4,7% increase can help it be better on the mix. For for wont be top
scarlet tapir
At least better than feral on araz
better to pad
cause its defo not better for anything else
bright ginkgo
i don't understand, do i still follow the opener if i have natures balance? because id overcap on AP if i only used 2 starsurges, or is this opener for those without natures balacne?
bright ginkgo
So do i still follow the opener or should i spend all my ap before convoking?
jaunty blaze
Follow the opener
Its an exception to the rule
You dont care for starlord in opener either
bright ginkgo
Okei, i'll try that, thanks
upper surge
The buff looks kind of ass
jaunty blaze
Yep
upper surge
Not sure what I expected tbh
jaunty blaze
Sadly it doesnt help get rid of the problems the spec has
mild badger
The problem is they dont know how to balance the aoe the spec can do with making it viable for single target
bright ginkgo
can't they just increase starsurge dmg?
jaunty blaze
They can but thats not we need
bright ginkgo
And what do we need..?
scarlet tapir
rework
boreal knot
is boomkin going to be meta in m+ after buff?
scarlet tapir
hopefully not
boreal knot
@pallid bay do u know?
pallid bay
yea for sure
steep edge
🤣
upper surge
most embarrassing tactic available
quiet drift
buff hunter
steep edge
Kotg still behind for m+ i suppose
upper surge
Shaking mark of the wild like a keychain in front of hypnotized party leader's face (he doesn't know I'm gonna do 2mil average less than other dps players)
maiden pasture
is boomkin going to be meta in m+ after buff?
eager raft
https://tenor.com/view/amor-gif-10758667656717415642
I’m picking up
prime hill
bro deleted
Y, my message have no interest, so i clean it 😄
jaunty blaze
there is no answering that
you said you simmed it already there isnt much to say otherwise
prime hill
Y, i understand 😄 Np, it's just a feeling, because low mastery is not in my conception of balance :p
jaunty blaze
i mean if you feel that way you can try getting more mastery and see if that helps but noone will recommend you doing that
noone can give you real advice based on feelings and guessing
prime hill
Ok! thks for ur answer!
jaunty blaze
If you want you can link the sim and maybe there is something you missed
prime hill
If you want you can link the sim and maybe there is something you missed
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iBib8eb4rpDExCKxNidnFs
Maybe i did something wrong, but i try to follow tips on this Discord and Compendium to sim in the good way
bronze tartan
Question, on loomithar mythic I assume we also swap to the two adds? Do we use starfall, or only focus on one of them, or dot both up, skip maybe during the 2min burst?
jaunty blaze
depends how fast your raid kills them
jaunty blaze
starfall isnt really worth it
jaunty blaze
better to dot the ranged one and single target it
but generally we arent doing well on them
bronze tartan
Yeah, but during pull I ignore the adds anyway, and I usually go for the far add and just focus that one outside of the CA burst
bronze tartan
I'm the absolute lowest on them in the raid despite being relatively high DPS in our group on the boss 🔥
jaunty blaze
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iBib8eb4rpDExCKxNidnFs
Maybe i did someth...
i would say if you want more mastery try to get the ring from halls
ah i simmed in ptr mode
shouldnt be much of a difference on live
in terms of increase
vital hound
I'm the absolute lowest on them in the raid despite being relatively high DPS in...
yea
thats not you
we're just beans
jaunty blaze
im simming again
vital hound
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1GfTsTAyrQrJcdy1P7BzGp
sim recrafts
jaunty blaze
could do that too
prime hill
i would say if you want more mastery try to get the ring from halls
I missed this ring twice, and same for the two rings in raid 🙁 Gonna farm a little this ring, and try with it
jaunty blaze
just saying its the most obtainable item if you want more mastery
vital hound
could do that too
he has haste mast oh
jaunty blaze
i mean he asks for m+ no
so its fine
but i would say the takeaway is change weapon enchat to stonebound artistry
everything else is minor
prime hill
Ok, thanks for ur time! 🙂
jaunty blaze
but yeah if you raid aswell just leave the bracers as they are and maybe change your offhand to crit mastery aswell
last folio
Hey guys. I need some help. My damage is sht and i am trying so much to do everything well. I don't know how logs work, but this is the link. A few items have changed from the ones on this link, but not much. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/burning-blade/exordi?zone=45 anyone got any tips on how to deal more damage?
drifting nova
Hey guys. I need some help. My damage is sht and i am trying so much to do every...
wrong spec boss, hope this helps
jaunty blaze
Hey guys. I need some help. My damage is sht and i am trying so much to do every...
did you check the dreamgrove guide already?
last folio
did you check the dreamgrove guide already?
yep trying to follow it as much as i can.
And on the dummies i deal as much damage as the assist button does, but in dungeons i deal so much less damage
steep edge
For m+ i suggest EC not kotg
Not sure if you are doing that?
last folio
For m+ i suggest EC not kotg
Not sure if you are doing that?
Yeah, that's what i play.
jaunty blaze
steep edge
Cd at end of tree hmm
jaunty blaze
this is what you want to do
precast wrath wrath starfire starting at 4 seconds of the pulltimer
then apply moonfire sunfire
press CA and send 2 surges
then trees into convoke right after
and then when your dryad fades you used the second charge of ca and immediately send 2 buffed surges
steep edge
Yeah, that's what i play.
in EC, Aslong as you make sure you are in Eclipse and spam starfire/fall you should already be doing 'something' :p
For m+ and aoe that is ofc
jaunty blaze
going further into the fight you keep on sending naked convokes
convoke is basically the cd all your other cds are anchored around
you never want to send it naked
steep edge
Anyway, you should probably reread guide and practise if the screenshot from mike are your spellcasts
last folio
in EC, Aslong as you make sure you are in Eclipse and spam starfire/fall you sho...
That's what i thought. "It's not much, just stay in eclipse" but i am always at the bottom of the meters. Got my 4piece tier set and still people with 10 ilvl below me are blowing meters
last folio
i'll try to go through the guide again and understand it better.
so i should be using convoke with incarn?
golden belfry
That's what i thought. "It's not much, just stay in eclipse" but i am always at ...
Post a pic of your details opened up that shows your damage breakdowns
jaunty blaze
always yes
steep edge
A big increase will already be to use your cds together
jaunty blaze
you always want to align convoke with incarn and trees
golden belfry
But sounds like youre asking for both raid and m+ which are completely different
last folio
i was asking ab m+ but i can't see any m+ logs
golden belfry
No but to someone convoking outside of trees/ca I'd assume nothing is moonfired while playing ec
Looks like you have 4 keys total logged as balance
jaunty blaze
all i can see is this from first pull ara kara
given you moonfired mobs before
but the same applies
you would press ca first
press 2 starfalls then trees then convoke
and you didnt even use your buffed starsurges
last folio
i use starsurge even in aoe situations?
jaunty blaze
if you decide to play keeper in m+ you do
the buffed starsurges also do splash damage
going further into the ara kara log you basically devolve into the same pattern
you keep using cds whenever they come up instead of lining them
golden belfry
Doing 7s and 3s too, not going to do much there since shit is just dead
jaunty blaze
yep
golden belfry
M+ just play ec, moonfire everything on gather, sunfire when grouped, fury of elune > ca > starfall for starlord stacks/spend ap to not overcap > starfire
Replace starfall with surge in st
peak spindle
i use starsurge even in aoe situations?
Are you using hekilli?
Ripping CDs as they come off cd and not lined up usually indicates a rotation helper.
last folio
using the highlights that the client has
jaunty blaze
the one button rotation?
drifting nova
the what now
last folio
the one button rotation?
no
the one that highlights the spells
i use it mostly to keep track of dots, if i tag a target and doesn't have a dot it prios the dot before any spell
golden belfry
Game has built in mini hekili you can toggle
jaunty blaze
i see
golden belfry
Just get a plater that shows your moonfire/sunfire on mobs
peak spindle
Id work on lining up your CDs and knowing the timing of them like Mike has been saying. Blindly following spell highlights will continue your current DPS
golden belfry
Shouldn't be tabbing between different mobs anyways
last folio
thanks a bunch guys. i have plenty to try and keep in mind while playing
thanks for the help
golden belfry
Go watch dwilkz/krona do a key from last season a couple times you'll learn np, think both have their spells used shown somewhere
formal crest
learn to tab
Gm
drifting nova
spice egret
Go watch dwilkz/krona do a key from last season a couple times you'll learn np, ...
Any streamers or people doing YouTube vids playing balance in high keys this season that are worth watching?
normal pilot
dwilkz is prolly only one left that's not chinese
not sure where to find non-western streamers / platforms
barren carbon
Any streamers or people doing YouTube vids playing balance in high keys this sea...
Tettles and Adeptxo are up there, but dwilkz is definitely doing the highest keys
dense steeple
No shot this man plugged the guy constantly playing wowhead writer simulator
barren carbon
I mean the man has higher io than us so
daring gull
higher number = better skill nodders
dense steeple
Still. You chose the guy playing with liquid and ID players as opposed to the guy who pugs to 3700 every season
barren carbon
Ok
dense steeple
If i did keys with liquid players i would also have high io
maiden pasture
Any streamers or people doing YouTube vids playing balance in high keys this sea...
krona did some yesterday
he was swapping between feral and moonkin
carmine vigil
my mom paid jpc to play with me thats why i have io
barren carbon
my mom paid jpc to play with me thats why i have io
W mom
dry compass
Still. You chose the guy playing with liquid and ID players as opposed to the gu...
Mfw I tune into tettles stream yesterday and he's running with cyn
And then he immediately dies to a swirlie reading chat and bricks the +17 floodgate
formal crest
my mom paid jpc to play with me thats why i have io
I heard JPC paid to play with you. Who’s really telling the truth here
unique kraken
is there a reason why we do CA - starsurges - trees instead of CA - trees - starsurges ?
formal crest
<a:classic:1263248046448447499>
Sup baldie
dry compass
is there a reason why we do CA - starsurges - trees instead of CA - trees - star...
So that your 4pc starsurges benefit from trees at the end of ca
unique kraken
do we just instantly pop 2nd incarn when dryad fades ?
dry compass
Dryad = 10s trees = 10s if you CA>trees trees will fade before you get both starsurges off
sonic crag
On double CA u want to CA when Dryad fades yes
formal crest
I am at work farming magic exp on OSRS
dense steeple
Yeah i just added it
unique kraken
so even tho we still have 2 sec on incarn after dryads we still want to pop 2nd incarn when 1st dryad fades, right ?
quiet drift
nice
formal crest
Then they buffed us
Eh it’s not really something I’d remove that statement for lmao
Keep it up. Tweet it to Bobby
dense steeple
Noted will do
jade drift
how do u make that ptr=1 thing on the expert mode work?
im putting my simc to the quick sim, adding the ptr=1 on expert mode and nothing
craggy sonnet
im putting my simc to the quick sim, adding the ptr=1 on expert mode and nothing
did you select "Latest" for your SimC Version
jade drift
did you select "Latest" for your SimC Version
where can i select that?
dapper wing
upper anvil
Clankz losing his speed smh
flint venture
Anyone know if they buffed some of the embellishments in 11.2? My sim claims Adrenal Surge Clasp is my best craft at +2% DPS for the 720 vs +1.6% for writhing armor banding (I have Ascension on my weapon)
robust vale
cyan vine
Did you see my new build?
Specs?
tacit oriole
All these nice builds while I’m still playing on an AMD 590 and a ryzen 5 1600x 😂
🥔
cyan vine
All these nice builds while I’m still playing on an AMD 590 and a ryzen 5 1600x ...
What are you waiting for? Upgrade and get a 4k OLED, worth it 😍
lucid olive
Anyone know if they buffed some of the embellishments in 11.2? My sim claims Adr...
they didn't no
but some embellishments scale on ilvl and some others don't
so if an embellishment that simmed bad last season is better now then that's why
cyan vine
9800x3d, 5080 rtx, infinite fps even on 4k 😍
lucid olive
go do 30 man heroic and tell me of your infinite frames
meager storm
4k monitors 
lucid olive
why would you need 4k monitors when 2 are enough
meager storm
good one
lucid olive
thanks
cyan vine
4k monitors <:LO:1365488656692805663>
OLED tho 😍
maiden pasture
but some embellishments scale on ilvl and some others don't
which scale with ilevel
lucid olive
I don't fully remember, but I think the ones that have damage procs on them scale with ilvl, and the ones that have stat procs don't?
@normal pilot prob knows more about which embellishments scale with ilvl and which don't
normal pilot
wha
maiden pasture
i thought they all dont scale tbh
normal pilot
oh idk prolly w/e the dev ate that morning
lucid olive
normal pilot
they just make shit up as they go along
and some get randomly fixed at times i think
if you really wanted to you can search thru simc spelldatadump for it and check if it has the scale with ilevel attribute
tacit oriole
What are you waiting for? Upgrade and get a 4k OLED, worth it 😍
Being a dad with 4 kids, a significant other and financial responsibilities is why I haven’t been able to upgrade. 😬
lucid olive
if you really wanted to you can search thru simc spelldatadump for it and check ...
yeah there doesn't seem to be any consistent rule with embellishments
cyan vine
Being a dad with 4 kids, a significant other and financial responsibilities is w...
Stay blessed
tacit oriole
Stay blessed
One day though fellow bamkin. One day
normal pilot
don't need a gpu for wow anyways, just plop in a 5700x3d
tacit oriole
Got a spare? 😅 😂
normal pilot
how much are they going for nowadays
lucid olive
I dipped below 20 frames on Dimensius heroic a few weeks ago and impulse bought 9950x3d
cyan vine
The i5 14400F with a voltage tweak is suprisngly good for WoW and very cheap
normal pilot
ya but that'd require new mobo
cyan vine
True
normal pilot
oh 5700x3d's hit EOL, unlucky
sudden pawn
I got a micro center 2 hours away now… fully stocked 9800x3d…
normal pilot
hmm actualy the one time where south america wins, you can still get a 5500x3d there
normal pilot
ya but he's on am4, 9800x3d would be a much much worse value than grabbing a 5700x3d somehow
dense steeple
I got a micro center 2 hours away now… fully stocked 9800x3d…
I got a microcenter 20 minutes away
tacit oriole
But even with a potato of a computer, I manage to have an average of like 93% parse for heroic mana forge. So it’s a small victory for me. Although I know heroic parses are seen as insignificant.
cyan vine
Specs are overrated for WoW , for sure
craggy sonnet
yeah there doesn't seem to be any consistent rule with embellishments
my rule is to check on qelive cuz voulk did the work already. just looking at the embellishment graphs
and adrenal surge clasp does scale with ilvl
but im not sure how that even works in simc (considering it actively wants you to get a beating)
normal pilot
you just set up fluffy pillow to hit you
glass geyser
I need some help. I will post my logs from last heroic raid. I need to know what I am doing wrong. Please be kind. I am becoming hopeless in regards to boomkin.
craggy sonnet
you just set up fluffy pillow to hit you
as in it probably per default sims as you getting hit which is not really a realistic scenario
so the result is useless
for us
radiant onyx
god I'm thankful you just said that. Was about to ask the group lmao
craggy sonnet
also not sure why you are playing aetherial kindling and twin moons on plexus sentinel
oh, and no convoke either
did you run in there with your kotg m+ talents?
uhhm
i would say watch a basics video #balance message
and then read the guide on dreamgrove.gg
glass geyser
Ok thank you
leaden birch
lofty depot
Ok thank you
ur also playing with wrong talents
u should look thru warcraftlogs before doing a boss and see what people are running
plexus has no adds on it
and ur running a build of all time
add that u started 6 seconds after pull
steel charm
the tier set gives us less dmg now, so the tierset strength is nerfed
but overa...
But it doesn’t. The % number changed, but it gives us more damage than before. 15% of 105 base is more than 20% of 100 base which it was before
craggy sonnet
But it doesn’t. The % number changed, but it gives us more damage than before. 1...
absolute numbers, yes .. but not % wise
lofty depot
ur in cds, u dont press starfire in keeper
distant cairn
But it doesn’t. The % number changed, but it gives us more damage than before. 1...
and you noticed that they nerfed some other parts by 10% right?
steel charm
and you noticed that they nerfed some other parts by 10% right?
Other parts which is isnt tier set yes
distant cairn
absolute numbers, yes .. but not % wise
this
lofty depot
why does it matter if the tierset strength got nerf
craggy sonnet
the tier set is relatively worse now than it was before
dunno why that matters but its a fact
lofty depot
they didtn want to buff ec for 5% is pretty simple
distant cairn
which is crazy
lofty depot
the tierset strength doesnt matter anymore
distant cairn
when bm gets a flat 4% buff and no drawback
glass geyser
Dang ok. I have a lot of work to do. So I’m going to go through WoW logs - and pick the talents that most top boomkins are using - and then I’ll go through the basics once again
lofty depot
its not that crazy
distant cairn
while being preffered in the highest keys anyways
craggy sonnet
Dang ok. I have a lot of work to do. So I’m going to go through WoW logs - and p...
on fractillus you did play the "right" talents
craggy sonnet
while being preffered in the highest keys anyways
you wouldnt get it.
steel charm
I don’t think damage is our problem in high keys no?
craggy sonnet
5% waaaay to big .. sorry cant do
steel charm
we didnt die in prior seasons
Because discipline priest was meta
lofty depot
u also had a 2 gcd afk when u pressed ca
craggy sonnet
well, yes .. but you have so many absorbs through external sources now n stuff
glass geyser
But I still parsed in the 30s on fractillus
craggy sonnet
talents arent all that matters
craggy sonnet
Because discipline priest was meta
i've also played with a rsham last season in title keys .. so yea
if we would do enough dmg we would be brought
and healers would make it work
craggy sonnet
but we are a pure sutained aoe spec that is not the best at that right now
steel charm
I think our damage is fine tho in m+, more struggling with getting killed by sharpshooter 🤣
Or bolters that meele dont kick
lofty depot
craggy sonnet
i looked at it briefly
craggy sonnet
thats why i guided them to the basics
lofty depot
u wrath forever and then slam asp everytime u get 100
generally u can dump asp at the start of eclipse for starlord
distant cairn
I think our damage is fine tho in m+, more struggling with getting killed by sha...
its just not good enough, when other classes do our niche better than us 😄
lofty depot
but outside of that, u press surge to not cap
- fundamentally u want to use your cds together, so this tree press when CA is 10 seconds away is wrong
- u dont use CA here because you want to again use cds together, and CA + convoke is your big damage. So you hold this CA til 2 minutes (u dont lose value on this because we have whirling stars which has charges)
and again with casting starfire in ca
steel charm
its just not good enough, when other classes do our niche better than us 😄
Ye but it’s fine we don’t need to be meta always haha
Let sub rogue have some fun
lofty depot
i prefer when boomkin isnt meta in keys
craggy sonnet
i dont 🙁
digital berry
Remove m+ from this game
steel charm
Why would you wanna remove the last bit of good group content wow has left
lofty depot
"good"
digital berry
If m+ is peoples idea of good content this game is doomed
lofty depot
mental illness
night gulch
minigame enjoyers, crazy
frigid yoke
i prefer when boomkin isnt meta in keys
Ye its fine not being meta. In keys we do well specially with bigger pulls. The higher the key the better our dmg profile is. I Just wanted us to be more usefull in more raid content. Even tho u can bring a boomy. But u cant complain if ur benched for another class with similar skill lvl
And M+ i find boomy really liniar and boring atm theres close to 0 depth in ur rotation. Yet me also play ele i sometimes find it annoying u dont proc for 2 pulls and ur tank dmg
dreamy locust
Blizz doesnt seem to care about having fun rotations anymore, just bare minimum to keep the money-wheel goin
Pulsar was removed because it was too constraining and "hard for them to balance"
Yet boomy has been trash in raid since removal
and gotten nothing to help
lofty depot
Ye its fine not being meta. In keys we do well specially with bigger pulls. The...
unless ur in like a top 50 guild there should be some diff
theres a bunch of boomies in top 100 guilds playing nexus and dimmy
night gulch
boomy wasn't particularly great when pulsar was in to be fair, but I agree. The oversimplification feels even worse, like the spec is somewhat easy to navigate but the numbers are just ass
dreamy locust
If you going to remove something with an excuse of, it'll make it easier for us to balance your spec, then you have to buff the spec by 15% every tier
for 6-7 tiers straight
frigid yoke
theres a bunch of boomies in top 100 guilds playing nexus and dimmy
Yes thatswy i Mention skill lvl
dreamy locust
obviously something went off the rails
night gulch
surely the next rework will fix it
lofty depot
obviously something went off the rails
nothing went off the rails
they stopped caring
dreamy locust
The only meaningful balance or changes things get is like, One spec every .5 patch, otherwise you are waiting for a new expansion
lofty depot
took them 3 tiers to come up with an interactive tier set
pallid bay
theres a bunch of boomies in top 100 guilds playing nexus and dimmy
what boomie is in on dimmy
lofty depot
adept dwilkz
night gulch
I'll be in if our guild ever finishes nexus king :)(pain)
lofty depot
id assume clecia
pallid bay
adept dwilkz
earnest sage
are the buffs already out?
lofty depot
<:LOLW:870977372642496522>
pallid bay
what guild is dwilkz in
lofty depot
clecia is incarnate iirc
dreamy locust
Lacking the critical many ele shamans
pallid bay
with the buffs maybe u get away with playing boomie
dreamy locust
Even before buffs I was gonna play boomy for atleast p1 prog
Im sure feral does like fucking caca too help with adds
frigid yoke
Feral a d balance are equally trash for Quick dieing adds
lucid olive
i'm just sticking feral on nexus king cause i don't wanna bear form every 20 seconds
dreamy locust
night gulch
i'm just sticking feral on nexus king cause i don't wanna bear form every 20 sec...
the whole fight just feels like danger tbh
pallid bay
before the buffs its like insane to pick a boomie instead of fearl i feel like
and you're just better off with a rdruid anyway
dreamy locust
Just have a healing roster who hates rdruid
pallid bay
feral is prob better p3 burn as well
dreamy locust
shrimple really
pallid bay
just because prism
night gulch
Just have a healing roster who hates rdruid
my guild does, its why im in on prog lol
dreamy locust
Just for seeing p1/p2 I think boomy prolly better, killing masses, ranged for walls
night gulch
im the sole druid buff currently
tropic walrus
before the buffs its like insane to pick a boomie instead of fearl i feel like
my guild took me as boomie cuz too much melee already 🙁
dreamy locust
Not better for the whole fight
pallid bay
why would boomie be better for killing masses
dreamy locust
because feral is the most worthless add killing spec in the game
lofty depot
does no add dam
dreamy locust
Below boomy
lofty depot
but looks real good
dreamy locust
boomys just flexible for learning a fight,
Feral doesnt really matter what the hell you do, save cd for a set sure
useless for 2 mins after
pallid bay
flexing horizontally
dreamy locust
minor swift
Feel like I am losing my mind. Looking for genuine help, I really enjoy raiding but my DPS is just not good enough. Is my problem my downtime or fundamental rotation misunderstanding? Wronger - https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YhJGvPNBrtp76wfc (died on Soulbinder so probably not a good one to look at)
night gulch
your opener is wrong
it looks like you're sending your buffed starsurges without the trees and before you use your second ca
dreamy locust
Why you playing KOTG on soul hunters
minor swift
Why you playing KOTG on soul hunters
I did think EC would be better, so will do that change next time. I changed talents to more of a cleave talent but clearly not good enough there
pallid bay
Feel like I am losing my mind. Looking for genuine help, I really enjoy raiding ...
these surges are outside of treants window
these dryad surges are outside of CA
you seem to be lacking an understanding of how to play your cds
watch this
and read this
these 2 starsurges are missing a 24% increased damage buff
minor swift
That's really helpful, thanks - going to practice now just recognising when I have the different buffs up
earnest sage
what embellishment for wrist?
cedar pumice
is astronomical impact working correctly for starfall in Elune? i specced it and got a 24% crit while my stats are 21% crit + astronomical impact. or I do not understand something again.
sick terrace
it gives critical strike DAMAGE and not crit chance
cedar pumice
ok, thanks for helping a noob
minor swift
Is the basic aim to unload AP when you have Dryad's Favour or BOAT?
Unless you have Dream Burst, which seems to buff Wrath?
wicked shuttle
uhhh generally speaking it's like 0 stacks of starlord > boat
Dryad's favor is cooldown based
you have to dump inside stacking cooldowns
bitter panther
On the second use of CA when it fades do you wait for 2nd trees or just blow it asap
minor swift
ok cool, working to keep the Starlord up, thanks
craggy sonnet
Kinda wish they'd have buffed wrath and surge a bit more separately
glacial spindle
On the second use of CA when it fades do you wait for 2nd trees or just blow it ...
Do we specifically play around the new tier bonus or can ignore it?
bitter panther
I can’t tell if my question was bad or your trolling me. So I’ll rephrase: my second dryads favor after 2nd CA fades. In the video linked above it shows him just double surging. I’ve been waiting 8 ish seconds to line it up with another trees. Just curious what’s the better method
stone ledge
Just sending at the end of the ca. cause of how ca grants both eclipses
bitter panther
Right for the first dryad I get that. But 2nd your CA would’ve faded no?
lofty depot
Do we specifically play around the new tier bonus or can ignore it?
if u want to ignore it and do less dam, sure
bitter panther
Do you have a log of someone doing it correctly? I think I just need to stare at the timeline screen
glacial spindle
if u want to ignore it and do less dam, sure
Can you explain how it changes from before with the Dryad thing and what it means by 2 globals in the compendium?
Before I was precast 2x wrath > starfire > sunfire > moonfire > trees >CA > SSx3-4 and then convoke
lofty depot
bitter panther
Thank you much
lofty depot
Can you explain how it changes from before with the Dryad thing and what it mean...
yea then u can send 1-2 surges after convoke spam wrath into the last 2 seconds of trees, ca surge surge surge, wrath into the last 2 seconds of ca
leaden kiln
is the damage increase even going to help boomies?
fossil hemlock
is the damage increase even going to help boomies?
Nah the damage increase actually doesn't give us damage
leaden kiln
oh damn, thats what I thought. ty Kelebrindal
glacial spindle
yea then u can send 1-2 surges after convoke spam wrath into the last 2 seconds ...
So is my opener fine still just sending CA again before it expires?
lofty depot
well as stated
2 seconds of the buffs left
u want trees with ur buffed surges
u need 2ish seconds
glacial spindle
So we hold trees instead of used to pair them at the start we CA do all the shenanigans then trees with 2 secs left on CA and dump starsurges?
leaden kiln
@lofty depot can you post the pin?
lofty depot
did u read at all what i said
wise mist
Does anyone have a rough estimate how much of a dmg increase one could expect in overall M+, switching from KotG to EC? I play KotG in raids of course, but have been on a break from M+ so haven't touched EC since start of expansion. Considering whether it's worth switching and getting familiar with EC, or if the difference is small enough that it really doesn't matter that much. I only do 4 keys/week around the 12-mark (my group will probably cap out at around 14s with more gear), so it's not something I'm super serious about.
lofty depot
Does anyone have a rough estimate how much of a dmg increase one could expect in...
read the pin probably for compendium
leaden kiln
does anyone see the pin? I don't
wise mist
I have. The compendium says both specs are fine, but in the discord everyone says to play EC
lofty depot
ec is generally the play
wise mist
So I'm just wondering how much I'm leaving on the table by not spending time learning EC
lofty depot
for higher keys
vagrant prawn
Used to use a weakaura that would should all the targets and how many had moonfire/sunfire on them. It was in the bottom right of the weakaura where it would be like 4/8 have moonfire
lofty depot
So I'm just wondering how much I'm leaving on the table by not spending time lea...
"learning" its just beyond easy
leaden kiln
I think we should close down the discord, what you all think?
lofty depot
press starfire, slam
lofty depot
I think we should close down the discord, what you all think?
ur so funny
leaden kiln
what you mean? worked for pally stans
lofty depot
yea them turning off the discord surely was the reason
leaden kiln
probably was though
lofty depot
brainrot
stone ledge
It also made them the laughing stock of specs lol
severe hollow
probably was though
almost guaranteed it wasnt
lofty depot
yea and some are wrong
wicked shuttle
opinions are like assholes, everyone has em
This isn’t an opinion. It’s something that can be refuted or confirmed lol
lofty depot
u dont know a lot
severe hollow
would you believe it if they did?
leaden kiln
until they give me a reason to not believe them
mighty mica
me when I'm media illiterate:
wild dune
exotic perch
me when I'm media illiterate:
blame the tiktok and chatgpt generation
holy its crazy
wild dune
boomers fall for media bait all the time
leaden kiln
It was a change coming from FF14 to here for sure
lucid olive
what are we arguing chat
wicked shuttle
Did you win @lucid olive
lofty depot
someone is spewing
mighty mica
same thing just different day
lofty depot
smh
lucid olive
got evokered
lofty depot
uh
exotic perch
is this silksong
lucid olive
did 2 runs each week
wicked shuttle
Oh I was just praying on his downfall
glacial spindle
Did you win <@147914503588282368>
Tettles explain the Boomkin opener and 2/4 set impact as if the class gets a 20% buff if I understand
minor swift
Ok last thing from me and then I’m going to go cry about my parses.
When you get dryad’s favor, do you send 2 surges or CA and then the 2 surges?
minor swift
Ok perfect, thanks. If I wasn’t so bad at moonkin I’d have moved on by now haha
For some reason in my head, the second Dryad being up cancelled dryad’s favor. Rookie
frigid goblet
the pinned graphic is super helpful thank you, question: if you're playing grove's inspiration, does that mean you do the double CA dryad thing as an opener only, and then send single CAs from then on out or should you be looking to pool CAs again?
minor swift
If I’m not mistaken, you would do a single CA / trees / convoke and then be able to do the double CA thing at 4 mins again?
frigid goblet
thats if youre playing potent enchantments, im guessing bc of the 10sec CD reduction, but what about if youre playing the other hero talent is my question
minor swift
Ahhh yeah ok nvm me
lofty depot
[W](https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RgpH2JYNfCVDtd9Z?fight=20&type=damage-d...
- trees after entering eclipse not at the end of eclipse
- surge outside of eclipse yucky
sending surges at the end of eclipse generally bad
ca at 130 is bad, u dont press ca without convoke
or ur trinket
also, dotting in ca bad
oh u guys push early hmm
u didnt double CA in amp
mental plover
whats the strat for higher keys on gambit murlocks
do i dot the sticks or do i just dont give a fuck
lofty depot
i mean, its ciringe but if they need to die :/
mental plover
yeah i was just on one and every pull was feeling eternal
so i wasnt sure if i was supposed to prio em with SS
glacial spindle
Is there a WA for checking the dryad timer to know when to send the starsurges
lofty depot
in the compendium there is
glacial spindle
in the compendium there is
Yeah just found it sorry to be annoying 😢
lofty depot
not annoyed
tawdry oak
is the guy in charge of wow analyzer gonna update it for s3
frail sonnet
is my oppener correct? i just got 4p
tawdry oak
lol
jaunty blaze
Looking solid
potent cargo
is the guy in charge of wow analyzer gonna update it for s3
if u give him $100 sure
lofty depot
is the guy in charge of wow analyzer gonna update it for s3
i forget his name
if i find it maybe can @ him
but doubt it
lofty depot
@woven moon oh this guy. (dad do u want some help updating this or dont think ull get to it)
verbal osprey
Hello all ! If i'm repeating the question i appologise , but can some1 tell me why do they nerf the set next reset ? i feel like i do not enough dmg compare to dk/shammy/arcane
lofty depot
Hello all ! If i'm repeating the question i appologise , but can some1 tell me w...
because they dont want EC to get a 5% buff
they wanted to buff our ST 5% and our m+ less
very shrimple
verbal osprey
Ohhhh yeaaa , make sense now
woven moon
is the guy in charge of wow analyzer gonna update it for s3
I can mark if updated for 11.2 because no changes lol
lofty depot
thats a w
woven moon
I haven't had time for much so unlikely to get to new stuff unless high prio bugfix
But I can mark if 11.2 so you don't have to click paat that
lofty depot
its fine for what i use it for
lucid olive
I can mark if updated for 11.2 because no changes lol
ye that would help with the people who come in and ask what to use instead of wowanalyzer since its not updated
lofty depot
can show people their poor damage in ca... speaking of which kinda of weird
it putting PI in the cd window kinda annoying
glacial spindle
So to get further understanding are we mainly sending the second CA after the dryad fades for the BOAT crit chance on the 2 buffed starsurges that it sends out? and everything before that is building up dmg and pooling it for those 2 hits
or do i misunderstand?
lofty depot
u send it either after dryad fades or with 2ish sec left on trees
but its for boat and trees window
the pooling of damage happens very easily
its like 40m damage needed in ca
and ur always sending convoke so it just happens
i send a naked ca during collectors of araz and send like 2-3 starfalls and hit cap
its not hard
glacial spindle
after we have done this rotation do we wait on 2 CA charges if the fight will last long enough and make sure trees/convoke will line up to use CA again x2 if not just send it ?
scarlet tapir
its not hard
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lofty depot
after we have done this rotation do we wait on 2 CA charges if the fight will la...
u send 2m 1 ca + convoke
and then at 4m u send a double
depends on fight times aswell
so like loomithar u could send a 1ca + convoke at 430ish amp
then send double ca + convoke with pot at like 630
mental plover
anyone got a modifier for nameplates color that isnt plater, for mobs that are missing moonfire/sunfire?
prolly WA
mental plover
yeah saw those i just struggle finding the one im missing
when the pull is like 30 shitters
sunfire is def easy to get it going honestly, is only moonfire the one i struggle with
potent cargo
just let the system figure it out for you bro
moonfire tab moonfire tab moonfire tab moonfire tab moonfire tab
mental plover
that works when a new pack gets pulled in?