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tiny ridge
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90% decline in keys;/

lofty depot
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Why is blood dk second?

tiny ridge
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no one likes boomking

jaunty blaze
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factual

midnight bough
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If there is a balance druid page on paladin discord will a ret page be added on druid disc?

jaunty blaze
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no

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(i have no say in this anyway)

red nymph
midnight bough
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I have no idea

slate finch
scarlet tapir
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congratz @pallid bay

pallid bay
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tyty 🫔

slate finch
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(This is all mostly a bit)

red nymph
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definitely not the heroes we wanted. maybe still not the heroes we need.

lofty depot
trail heath
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If we don’t get buffs do we riot the rets?

slate finch
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But that won’t stop us

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We’re too stupid

pallid bay
scarlet tapir
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wait ayije was playing ele?

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thats insane

pallid bay
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what am i streaming

pallid bay
midnight bough
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Is this wowhead talking shit? Should Boomkins Close Their Class Discord to Get Single Target Buffs? - Boss Damage DPS Balance

lofty depot
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Oh, I thought u were slammin

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My bad my bad

spare vine
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hi youtube i was here before the shut down

sudden flame
pallid bay
pallid bay
lofty depot
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Maybe resto too good

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Nerf that shit so I can see the jb tweet

midnight bough
gentle patio
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2018

midnight bough
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Tuning confirmed i think

pallid bay
jaunty blaze
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🄱

midnight bough
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Dang it i saw someone else post and thought it was real sry

jaunty blaze
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surely

hot cove
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I swear to gaybin if resto gets nerfed im 😤

scarlet tapir
lofty depot
spare vine
stiff maple
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Someone didnt read the article huh

west coral
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guys i auto decline every single ret who signs up for my groups because of what they did -dont allow that to happen to us

scarlet tapir
lofty depot
trail heath
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Ya who else is gonna br you when you die cause you didn’t bear form?

scarlet tapir
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dk, paladin

midnight bough
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Dk can do it i think

scarlet tapir
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bear

west coral
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The resto druid

west coral
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HMU if you want the weak aura that auto declines pink damage class

slate finch
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I’m gonna add a line in my post calling Chay a big old bitch

west coral
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mom get the camera

sour gale
midnight bough
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Can the weak aura be made to decline any bm hunters, bdk, frost mages?

lofty depot
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Lol, if it can be made for one, it can be made for all

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Just gonna queue my key and auto decline everyone

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Man of chaos

stone ledge
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They gonna hit us with a nerf after that

warm valley
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I hope the balance discord opens up on the paladin discord soon sadge

young horizon
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hey

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what belt for raid st?

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i mean what belt effect

lofty depot
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Sim it

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Yea sim it

young horizon
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is the zappy zap good

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im lazy

lofty depot
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Tragic

hasty dove
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anyone knows when the buffs are coming?

slate finch
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Not soon enough brƶther

young horizon
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why is my druid simming 1,5m less than my shaman

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D:

wet cloud
# lofty depot

Quite content that my 5 seconds in photoshop is making the rounds

lofty depot
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U also likely have funny stats and could gain 1-2% from fixing that

young horizon
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i have

warm valley
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Must be in mythic spec, should only be 1M less

young horizon
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4k crit , 1,5k vers 23k haste 22k mastery

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D:

lofty depot
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That do be wrong

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Unforch

young horizon
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I NEED more vers

lofty depot
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And crit

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That 23k like 20 of that goes to Crit/vers

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Fuggn fix it

young horizon
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what

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u mean i run 0 hasdte?

jaunty blaze
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Yes

lofty depot
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Well 23-20 is not 0

tiny ridge
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I cant even chat in m+ discord server ;/

lofty depot
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So fix ur math too

young horizon
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dont tedll me its cause of freaking convoke

kind wind
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I’m gonna be mad if they do buff us but it’s like an EC buff to make that better in ST. If I have to refuck with all my stats again I’ll scream.

jaunty blaze
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The root of all evil

lofty depot
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Well kinda

young horizon
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well is that the same for m+?

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i doubt it

jaunty blaze
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No

young horizon
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ill be playing M+ soo idc

lofty depot
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No, want haste for ec

young horizon
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YEAAAAAS

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i have so much haste woohoo

lofty depot
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Well u asked about raid

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Some of us race swapped for like 40k inc

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Built diffy

wet cloud
drifting plank
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i hope they remove keeper

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and only EC stays forever

lofty depot
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Seek help

wet cloud
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honestly all of druid hero talents are lackluster

drifting plank
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i love ec

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i hate dryads and treants

lofty depot
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Didn't ask

wet cloud
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you just have low standards

drifting plank
wet cloud
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"ayo lets remove parts of their kit and call it a spec"

drifting plank
bright tinsel
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looking for help as to why my starsurge crit rate was so low. i thought i played pretty well apart from some conservative bear forms late in p2 (guild's hps throughput is quite weak, and id rather we kill)

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comparing this to rank ~20, near identical kill time and CD cadence

gentle scroll
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You have less crit

maiden pasture
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YOU HAVE

wet cloud
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You have no crit

maiden pasture
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under half his crit?XD

gentle scroll
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lmao

wet cloud
loud kettle
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crit is useless dude, 50/50 either way

lofty depot
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U sent that buffed surge outside of ca

bright tinsel
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all secondaries are a trade-off though right at this point? it shouldn't result in such extreme variance otherwise the sim would value crit more dramatically when running something like droptimizer

wet cloud
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like I have 9,468 crit rn which is 14%

but I also have a heroic astral antenna which pumps me to like 25%~50% flux during the fight. You have nothing which is why.

lofty depot
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Sent 2nd pot with not convoke

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Tragic

lofty depot
bright tinsel
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pot is bound to CA, so it simply wasnt up or it would have gone off with that set

wet cloud
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FYI my crit % on my starsurges on the reg are 43%

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with my numbers

lofty depot
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Simply can't be true

bright tinsel
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just feels like the sim should be telling me to throw on crit fiber and change out a ring/neck

wet cloud
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Recraft your weapon, and change rings

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imo

lofty depot
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Ur first pot is at 003, ur CA is at 513

jaunty blaze
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If the sime tells you to get haste you do something wrong

bright tinsel
lofty depot
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It was up

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So idk

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Get a button I suppose

bright tinsel
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i mean thats just strange yea

wet cloud
lofty depot
wet cloud
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that trinket gives you so much crit

lofty depot
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Ur playing the CA wrong

bright tinsel
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i cannot fix the fact that the gvault has given me nothing

tiny ridge
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at mods is pro

lofty depot
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Ur sending too many surges and not pooling for the end

wet cloud
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Also mods is totally right

jaunty blaze
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Do you have mugzee trinket

wet cloud
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but as far as your crit question there you go, get antenna

jaunty blaze
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Good substitute

lofty depot
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Then sending a buffed surge outside of ca

wet cloud
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some of the top reports for balance have mug'zee trinket even still

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or at least in the first weeks

bright tinsel
lucid olive
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good trinket

lofty depot
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Uhhh both

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Ur first set u sent a buffed surge out of ca

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Also, if the fight is like 630

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U should send 1 ca + convoke at 4ish then send the double at 6

bright tinsel
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how is that possible? im sending the 2nd CA when the first has 2.Xs left

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where is the gap?

lofty depot
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Gap of ehat

bright tinsel
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"outside of CA"

lofty depot
bright tinsel
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i am interpreting that as me sending the 2 buffd surges without CA active

lofty depot
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Well ur sending 1 in and 1 out

bright tinsel
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i see what you're saying, the 2nd set of buff'd surges?

lofty depot
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Yes

bright tinsel
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ahhhhh ok

gentle scroll
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Do you guys think Enchant Weapon - Council's Guile would be worth it over radiant power?

bright tinsel
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with the remaining 2s of the 2nd CA, you have to send 2 surges

lofty depot
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In raid

bright tinsel
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otherwise they are unbuffed by your 2nd CA, correct?

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got it

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these two are kosher though?

lofty depot
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Well obviously

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But yea within trees yes

bright tinsel
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idk if anythings necessarily obvious to me at this point, im trying to digest a bit with half or less the retail experience as some of the folks taking pod shots

lofty depot
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Welcome to the Internet

bright tinsel
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i appreciate you rapid fire responding though, its very helpful for clearing up misconceptions and addressing ignorance

lofty depot
bright tinsel
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is this what you mean by pooling during 2nd CA in the opener

lofty depot
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Yes

bright tinsel
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understood

lofty depot
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U need the asp to send those last 2 seconds

bright tinsel
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next week ill show how you can actually translate discourse/help from this discord into log improvement copege

bright tinsel
noble spindle
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@lofty depot

bright tinsel
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my problem w the compendium is stuff like this. i generally agree with simit for most scenarios

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but this does nothing to discuss the sheer importance of crit given how the tier set plays and the diminishing returns from this point in the expansion

dreamy locust
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Sims tell you importance of stats,

meager storm
bright tinsel
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droptimizer did not tell me to use crit missives, crit fiber, and swap out a ring

gentle scroll
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why would you not listen to the robot which can do more math in a second than I can in a month?

dreamy locust
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You either didnt input stuff correctly, or other stats are better

lofty depot
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U assumed u only use haste mastery cuz we always did

bright tinsel
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could be user error, im not going to say the sim is wrong

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i definitely clicked what i thought would include those options in the iterations

dreamy locust
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If guide says any stat best, then there will be 10,000 of you coming in with all one stat

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wondering why they do nothing

lofty depot
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Show sim maybe

dreamy locust
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Stat DR's and fluctuation are cringer than ever this season

bright tinsel
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ill show sim though. i am here to grow and learn

lofty depot
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That's fine, but like if ur gear is very heavy haste, that means u maybe didnt sim the mastery + Crit/vers items

sick terrace
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r1 boomie on fractilus 12 buffed surges 11 crit

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gg wp

lofty depot
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Very skilled

jaunty blaze
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Just crit

bright tinsel
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its crazy because i made so many pushes for r1 feral in classic, and i lost hair and sanity over shred crit rate denying me 100s

shadow kiln
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This rng piss me off

bright tinsel
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i thought for sure retail had less of that

rough sail
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why haven't we shutdown the balance section on discord yet?

vital hound
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classic

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lol

lucid olive
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the paladin discord did it for us

snow elm
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i think there is no tuning notes today

finite nymph
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do i aoe or single target cpt dailcry?

sick terrace
bright tinsel
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sim just says re-craft weapon, which was second'd several times

dense steeple
exotic perch
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they share hp

bright tinsel
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interestingly it doesnt want me to swap gems or fiber

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and perhaps more interesting is that its giving me a ~10k dps delta on this decision

finite nymph
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kewl

bright tinsel
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but going back to that log comparison, my crit relative to his cost me nearly 1M dps, not 10k lol

sick terrace
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play potent enchant on heroic talent

jaunty blaze
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Did you even checkmark swap gem/enchants

craggy sonnet
sick terrace
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no since their is no sims with other gems

jade drift
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buffs in 30

jade drift
sick terrace
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why ?

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good old times

jade drift
sick terrace
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even had PI

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can u imagine that now

normal pilot
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3 hours of copium reserves left

craggy sonnet
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You can't just look at stats like that

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Robot is gonna tell you what nets you the highest avg

craggy sonnet
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You can and should also sim the other stat buffs on the belt

bright tinsel
bright tinsel
noble spindle
tranquil plank
craggy sonnet
jaunty blaze
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Thats a good thing to do on the Internet

shadow kiln
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Crit over haste with this tier set ? šŸ¤”

craggy sonnet
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Just sim your stuff properly and and you will be fine

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You can't do anything against crit variance in a single pull

stone ledge
dreamy locust
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Its very likely your stats are pretty bad and could gain a lot, but also theres just RNG

shadow kiln
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1m dps for crit variance it’s a lot 😪

lofty depot
bright tinsel
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correct and that’s the biggest takeaway from this back and forth

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i’m literally playing it incorrectly

dreamy locust
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But yeah, 99% of posts say, Why am I doing less than X/Y is

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Mistakes in play, and/or bad gear

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Mainly mistakes in play

bright tinsel
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yea this one was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the tier set

dreamy locust
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It's pretty strange

bright tinsel
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i saw the whole ā€œsend 2 GCDs before treesā€ and thought i was golden with at least the first set of buffed surges

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was not thinking about the pooling and the second set

exotic perch
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facilitates such bad gameplay

bright tinsel
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yea the 12s CA and 10s dryad is a wild choice

jaunty blaze
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On top of every cd not syncing

exotic perch
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balance is just a mess lol

jaunty blaze
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Its very counterintuitive

exotic perch
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30 or 45 sec trees, 2 charges 90 or 105 second cd on CA

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2 min convoke

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good luck when control bugs out

bright tinsel
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i appreciate the grace. i’m going to fucking blast next week

jaunty blaze
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You can do it champ

shadow kiln
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What’s ur mistake ?

ionic oak
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Staying boomkin

bright tinsel
lucid olive
bright tinsel
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for sure lol

exotic perch
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the funnier part is the drastic difference between the two hero trees

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one you gotta juggle cds

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other just hit starfire ook ook

honest rapids
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when running M+ with the 4pc tier is it just send it when the cooldown is up and recycle. Don't dance around anything special?

jaunty blaze
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Nope

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Just play as if it doesnt exist

honest rapids
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I apparnetly need more EC in my game play. Trying to time out the dryad is a pill; great when I get it right, sucks that it is rare I get it right.

dreamy locust
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Thats about it

lofty depot
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this group is cooked no?

dreamy locust
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Chimp gang

tacit oriole
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@carmine vigil is this you or an imposter?

dreamy locust
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Play feral, and do a floodgate or ara-kara

honest rapids
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In a M+ or Council build and going EC build, should i ONLY cast Starfire and avoid Wrath unless it's the 2 casts to get into eclipse?

dreamy locust
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Cmon man

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Its like you didnt even try

warm atlas
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gg chickens, it is friday end of day and wowhead is now meme'ing on us too šŸ˜„

midnight bough
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Is it legal for wowhwead to so that?

round field
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Yes?

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Why wouldnt it be

boreal brook
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Someone in this channel told me we get buffs today.

Getting to the last hour of the workday; was I lied to?

edgy coral
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In this channel probably

scarlet wren
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They probably got the panda classic buff mixed up with retail

warm atlas
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they busy playing Silksong

round field
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Understandable

digital berry
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i am 100% prepared to be disappointed today

ionic oak
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Yeah not happening

craggy sonnet
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i remember this stuff coming in as late as idk 2+ hours from now

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so idk why we dooming

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already

muted remnant
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Are weapons even worth sacrificing a vault for these days? Got 2h crafted already (won't get Mythic Voidkris for sure, maybe the Soulbinder staff later down the line)

mental plover
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Stop saying next monday for sure

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Just say next season for sure

scarlet tapir
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2/8 is so free

lofty depot
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hes doing weekly keys on pally

fiery veldt
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so stat prio for keys is haste/mastery yea?

lofty depot
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and no one was appling so i got home and queued ke

lofty depot
fiery veldt
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ty

muted remnant
carmine vigil
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how did u make pwilkz say dwilkz

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@lofty depot

lofty depot
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uh

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that good question

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funny atrocityui maybe

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actually that doesnt make sense

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cuz sawyer would be diff

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hmmm

bright tinsel
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closing the loop here

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i checked the box, and it wants crit like crazy hahaha

scarlet tapir
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might want to start looking for a belt

bright tinsel
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have the plexus one in my bags thankfully

muted remnant
# bright tinsel

is your Fiber Mastery? looks purplier than the crit one at least

scarlet wren
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Patch notes up

maiden pasture
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aura buff

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pog

slate finch
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YOU

tender elbow
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But nerf to our M+ capabilities

slate finch
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ARE

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FUCKING

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WELCOME

snow elm
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wait a moment

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thats a ec nerf!?!?

ripe slate
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cause of m+ being fine

warm wagon
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5%

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woooo

drifting plank
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+5% all dmg

slate finch
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.

drifting plank
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either will be a 1% buff or something

real flax
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5% aura buff is a joke

covert coyote
maiden pasture
tawdry cedar
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Would have to balance out the m+ with raid buffs otherwise we would become m+ machines again

stable raven
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yea cant have that pshh

unique mirage
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so they make us even worse in m+ for raid

drifting plank
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prob 1% buff EC or 1% nerf or w/e

robust monolith
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its a dps increase in every scenario

drifting plank
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will prob be a dps increase

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in m+

night gulch
west coral
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its net 0

maiden pasture
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yes it will be a buff

whole sundial
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Boomy gets 5% overall buff

slate finch
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(This had nothing to do with our meme today, but I’m happy for you guys)

night gulch
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too bad the buff is kinda mid

west coral
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Raid up - m+ 0 or down. GGs

whole sundial
modest orchid
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how did boomkin possibly catch key nerfs

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insane

stone ocean
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It’s not enough close the discord now

real flax
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still be bottom in raid anyways xD

modest orchid
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ya we going from last to last

stone ocean
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The paladins got 2 buffs! Where’s ours

wild sand
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Never enough

rancid sonnet
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lmfao 5%? THATS IT?!!!

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jk we good now boomys

storm frigate
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this is such a fucking joke

scenic mist
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i dont even know if it's worth

cedar leaf
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Took 2 weeks to give 5% and still shit

night gulch
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we are not

west coral
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its not even 5% buff with the tier set nerfs

real flax
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it's a garbage buff smh

pliant swallow
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the biff

west coral
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its legit 0% buff

pliant swallow
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Buff

cedar leaf
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We're good in keys relax

ember quartz
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I swapped to mage last week. This doesn't make me want to come back.

pliant swallow
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feels like nothing.

stone ocean
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I say we get tettles to make a video ā€œthe worst spec and how it can be fixedā€ instant 20% buff coming out way

vital hound
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no sham nerf

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is insane

real flax
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this bait

storm frigate
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this is some kinda joke

left hazel
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close the discord

real flax
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close the discord

rich geyser
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close the discord

modest orchid
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we need to close the discord

west coral
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Good news! Were bad in raid AND M+ now! šŸ™‚

wind mason
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close the discord

stone ocean
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Close the discord

young ravine
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close the discord

storm frigate
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Close the discord

azure pelican
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close the discord

sand cedar
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Clos the discord

paper isle
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close the discord

upbeat kettle
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Close the discord

stone ocean
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Close the discord

modest orchid
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close the discord

maiden pasture
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shut up

vernal goblet
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Close the discord

solemn granite
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I literally just joined this group to see if everyone was moaning and waiting for balance buffs… and I joined and they came in… that’s a star sign…

daring cipher
grand spear
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Close the discord

wind spindle
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close the discord

lucid prism
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Ornaments of the Mother Eagle 2-piece: Starfire damage increased by 15% (was 20%). - Does that mean the tier set is going to be buffed by 15% or nerfed by 5%

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i don't know if i'm being dumb or not but it looks like buffed

chrome sable
lucid prism
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why does it say "increased by 15"

left hazel
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our guild is gonna be hopefully finishing off LFR this week and i was really hoping we would get a buff šŸ™

west coral
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its the set bonus

real flax
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read it again bro

young ravine
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was 20

scenic mist
maiden pasture
stone ocean
# daring cipher stfu

This man isn’t a Druid he re rolled evoker he ditched the spec now he witnessed buffs and wants to return

uncut cairn
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so its buff or nerf kekw?

crude void
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Because it says the full description

ember quartz
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Surprised fdk didn't take another hit

maiden pasture
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m+ mains who dont even know if its an overall buff or nerf crying

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theres no nerfs

west coral
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Its a net 0

maiden pasture
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calm down

west coral
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stfu

real flax
lucid prism
maiden pasture
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shut up @ocean coral

ocean coral
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wtffffff

gritty wraith
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why cant they just buff us to middle of the pack man

maiden pasture
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yeah

gritty wraith
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what is this

keen eagle
maiden pasture
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i pre-loaded that

snow elm
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for m+ it seems its still a 3~ percent buff

lucid prism
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so it's only net 0 in m+

modest orchid
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close the discord

gritty wraith
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how is it in raid

normal pilot
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hm. who wants to bet they even get the 5% aura buff done correctly

gritty wraith
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am i in the bin?

real flax
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buff the st is not that hard

lofty depot
modest orchid
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ya u went from bottom to bottom

real flax
gritty wraith
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FUCK

lofty depot
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wave to the fotms

maiden pasture
west coral
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were just a different flavor of bad

upper anvil
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@lofty depot how are we feeling about buffs

iron chasm
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5% starsurge buff in a different way pog

fast grail
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Yeah just gonna put my boomkin in the trash can

gritty wraith
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5% aura buff is cringe

chrome crypt
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blizzard trolling ?

normal pilot
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also it's not gonna be 5% due to rounding

gritty wraith
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i want 3% starsurge buff

minor gazelle
hallow canopy
normal pilot
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you're only get 4.7%

gritty wraith
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23%

real flax
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the desire of blizzard don't wanting another strong season of balance in m+ is taking the spec to the lowest in raid

ocean coral
vital hound
storm frigate
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hunters got full buffs no nerfs, wtf

wild sand
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How 2 reroll cat

lucid prism
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yeah why is hunter getting buffed

sturdy quarry
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brooos! is it a buff or nerv?

lucid prism
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and we get shit

maiden pasture
radiant wyvern
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ferals are already doing more damage m+ aren't they? why nerf us?

sturdy quarry
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nerf

grand halo
midnight bough
sturdy quarry
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wtf

sturdy quarry
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HAHA

real flax
#

aura buff at the top text is the baitiest bait

cedar leaf
#

Its still a minor buff in m+

dawn cedar
#

why do the wowhead articles keep mentioning the class discord? What's the joke or reference here?

cedar leaf
#

Pretty sure

serene geyser
#

^

grand halo
maiden pasture
lofty bay
#

You are welcome lads

maiden pasture
lofty bay
#

We did it

wild sand
formal nacelle
#

You’re welcome for the buffs guys

real flax
dapper drift
#

Whats wrong with Blizz?

midnight bough
#

Is this the fix that balance needed???

sturdy quarry
#

have in mind we get 5% for ALL spells

lofty depot
maiden pasture
summer talon
real flax
sturdy quarry
#

also starfire

wind mason
dawn cedar
#

Oooooh okay

midnight bough
#

Ty @notcal the paladin support made it happen

warm valley
#

Can't wait to still never get more than 3 procs

nova ocean
#

Ya I don't think that 5 percent buff saves us

cedar leaf
#

Its not 5% nerf to starfire nerf

misty vapor
#

our kotg 4p cap is not increased right ?

jovial storm
true anvil
grand halo
willow thicket
#

time to close class discord

midnight bough
#

How can we tank the paladins for getting balance buffed????

storm frigate
#

maybe it was a typo and it should be 15%

radiant wyvern
#

so it's like a 3% buff st?

real flax
#

it worked for them

lilac merlin
#

Maybe they just hate us?

modest orchid
#

close the discord

carmine vigil
#

this looks like garbage

summer talon
real flax
#

close the discord

glossy void
#

close the discord

wind mason
#

close the discord

misty vapor
#

aura buff won't fix balance druid

vale latch
#

are the nerfs to the elunes hero tree big or will it be minor? Worried about M+..

light seal
#

honestly. i have felt fine in the raid :D.. i dont know what people are crying about

cedar leaf
#

Youll be fine in m+

pulsar trout
#

open the teamspeak

west coral
#

its a nerf in M+

cedar leaf
#

Jesus you guys

misty vapor
#

why aren't they buffing wrath by 10% or more, it is purely st

winter spear
sturdy quarry
west coral
midnight bough
#

Balance is back baby ThumbsUp Balance is back baby ThumbsUp Balance is back baby ThumbsUp Balance is back baby ThumbsUp

storm frigate
#

is there a good kotg M+ build?

tepid mountain
#

Hi guys, new here just saying hewo ^_^

light seal
#

yeah. i parse 97+ and they do 50-90. so i ques thats why. but still it seems ok.

stiff totem
lofty depot
#

?

#

need gamz to rise up

open harbor
#

Wait and let experts sim this shi for us lol

high orchid
next sedge
#

im not unhappy with a 5% aura buff

real flax
tulip lark
#

Guys I’ve confirmed… there will be changes

gritty wraith
#

minor single target buff minor m+ buff, its kinda insulting as buffs go considering how ass boomy is rn but it is what it is

somber karma
#

Am i alone or does this read Like m+ nerf

cloud plover
#

gz guys u won

light seal
#

only hc this tier

quiet crystal
#

Ornaments of the Mother Eagle 2-piece: Starfire damage increased by 15% (was 20%).

light seal
#

not enough guildies

next sedge
quiet crystal
#

huh

leaden birch
#

so are we dooming or are we happy now

#

what I miss

lucid prism
#

if you guys want more than a 5% aura buff, you should improve your parses

celest rampart
#

When do we delete the discord

lucid prism
#

lol

cloud plover
#

okay nothing wrong with that

radiant wyvern
#

BM's got way better buffs too 🄲

pulsar trout
#

im talking with elon rn, gonna get more buffs

lofty depot
#

crazy ele and destro doesnt get shot

#

shits insane

real flax
undone portal
#

i need my opinion given to me please

storm frigate
high orchid
strong bronze
#

Wait so how much are the m+ nerfs?

leaden birch
covert coyote
warm briar
#

MM hunter dodged nerfs phew. Now I can still play it

next sedge
light seal
#

its fine in my guild šŸ˜„

wet nova
#

Let's go ! Time to reroll to Balance !

light seal
#

you should see the greys

heady sentinel
#

Mmm guys, this buff is like a fking shit no?

dense abyss
#

its like 2% dmg increase eish

#

ish

heady hedge
#

hey guys im out performing the rest of my aotc guild members, so boomy doesnt actually need to be buffed

iron chasm
serene elk
#

can we try to close discord for see if blizzard will up us ?

trail heath
#

Where is the napkin math

high orchid
craggy sonnet
#

the druid dev hates the spec

#

wcyd

#

unforch

warm briar
fathom nebula
#

We are most likely still bottom if not bottom 3 in raids tho?

craggy sonnet
#

or their job

#

either or

iron chasm
full helm
craggy sonnet
pulsar trout
#

they are max friends

iron chasm
radiant wyvern
real flax
#

2 weeks to minor aura buff and nerf ec tier set

unkempt tree
#

so, buf for raid, nerf for m+? šŸ™

warm valley
#

Buff proc chance for EC set pls DistortedCry

night gulch
#

changes nothing for raid, still bottom spec

craggy sonnet
#

bm copping a bigger buff

#

funny

next sedge
#

maybe im just stupid but why is everyone saying a 5% aura buff is actually lower than 5%

leaden birch
#

good thing I rolled a frost dk for m+ fun

tacit oriole
#

Guys it’s not like there won’t be more tuning in a few weeks time. If we still compete like shite in comparison to other specs. It will come.

radiant wyvern
vivid quiver
#

i think we should close the boomy discord now guys

lucid prism
#

more like 4.7%

final patio
misty vapor
#

They should increase the capping of the keeper set

lucid prism
#

according to an expert earlier

leaden birch
#

I think the ret discord should close the boomkin discord

real flax
cinder flume
whole sundial
#

That’s from the website

#

How is it bait

radiant wyvern
cerulean light
#

do ppl realize 15% increase of 105 is higher total than 20% increase of 100.

pallid idol
#

i'm so confused

tulip lark
#

Starfire does a bit of dmg in keys monkaEvil

pallid idol
#

was it buffed or not

whole sundial
ripe slate
midnight bay
#

So tell me got buffed or not?

radiant wyvern
#

wait then it's just 5% better in raid aside from 2 fights right?

outer oasis
#

Dear dec since u are fear of the ec to be too strong, why can’t u just buff kotg?

midnight bay
#

Im confused

lucid prism
dreamy locust
#

Mainly raid buff, small M+ buff

outer oasis
#

Lol

dreamy locust
#

I believe

magic bloom
primal grove
true viper
midnight bough
#

Balance is back baby ThumbsUp Balance is back baby ThumbsUp Balance is back baby ThumbsUp Balance is back baby ThumbsUp

magic bloom
#

my new fav screenshot

outer oasis
#

Close the discord

cunning ocean
#

i mean its obv a buff. its just meh

gentle patio
outer oasis
#

Ret got 5% without paying anything

cinder flume
high orchid
#

Close the discord

vale venture
#

HODL THE DOOR UNTIL 10% BUFF

real flax
#

still bottom raid anyways

slender island
#

what a joke this "buff" ffs

turbid peak
#

ec nerf xd, surely that wont go live, surely keeper is just better in m+ if that goes live?

pallid idol
#

if kotg is the spec in m+

gusty mauve
#

this buff is a joke?

pallid idol
#

then boomkin isnt worth

errant sequoia
neon cairn
#

go kotg

craggy sonnet
grizzled cedar
#

Next addon we rise !:)

errant sequoia
tacit oriole
#

EC will still be better in keys šŸ˜‚

winter spear
craggy sonnet
#

they could have done 8% aura and we would be behind

errant flint
outer oasis
#

Boomie has litterally 0 influence for add fights and still worst st. Spread heavy aoe is good? So why they got 0 boomies in soul hunters

rancid sonnet
#

damn man...

craggy sonnet
#

well, too bad

somber karma
#

Sry what is EC?

rancid sonnet
#

elunes chosen

outer oasis
#

Destro and ele got no nerfed

somber karma
#

Thanks

real flax
crisp scaffold
#

Imagine they buff bm while its already broken in m+

strong pendant
#

all I'll say is: thank fuck I prepped a hunter.

dreamy locust
#

If you guys thought a buff in wow was going to make something actually good,

#

Hi welcome to world of warcraft

outer oasis
#

Elune’s abandon no more chosen

gloomy quartz
#

ā˜¹ļø

errant sequoia
#

They’re taking credit for boomies getting the buff by saying them closing the channel is what got it. Really a special bunch.

warm briar
tacit oriole
#

I literally went single target build on soulbinder because adds died to fast

lofty depot
#

napkin is +2.5-3% on m+

dreamy locust
#

who cares

drifting plank
frigid yoke
#

this 5 % buff will bring us back to the top

turbid peak
tulip snow
#

what are the napkin mage changes?

dreamy locust
main parcel
#

it wont lmao

fleet furnace
real flax
stark wedge
#
  • usually means an increase
sacred whale
#

this 5% buff is a joke right?

lofty depot
obtuse creek
#

we good

rancid sonnet
frigid yoke
#

add 5% to it

iron chasm
#

5% should kinda put us more middle of the pack so not too bad

frigid yoke
#

we r still below ass rogue

#

xD

loud kettle
#

never trust a thing archon says

real flax
#

chill we good

grizzled cedar
blazing karma
#

5.61 mil times 1.05 (the 5%) is 5.89 mil... which it still the bottom haha

grizzled cedar
cinder flume
willow thicket
tacit oriole
#

The buff will still have us in the bottom 5-6 šŸ˜‚

wind mason
#

2 place ↑

sacred whale
#

MOTW that was a nice pic hahaha

pulsar trout
#

i should have gonne kyrian

somber karma
#

But why dafuck Nerf EC...

fossil solstice
#

Beside this mediocre buff - i am shocked they didnt tune ele and destro ... wtf

radiant wyvern
lofty depot
tacit oriole
#

Bring back ravenous frenzy with this tier set

frigid yoke
#

and

#

xD

lofty depot
#

they nerfed some of the stuff so it doesnt get a 5% buff, it gets a lower buff

sacred whale
#

But why that nerf the 2 Piece of the new set? to op ?

tacit oriole
#

Holy hell that would be too good

obtuse creek
loud kettle
#

Quite simple really, boomy is already great in keys

lofty depot
#

seems odd they nerfed what they did tho

tacit oriole
#

Very

harsh jungle
sacred whale
#

Sheehs frost dks will be OP to...

sacred whale
#

no nerfs for frost haha

frigid temple
harsh jungle
#

Boomie is hard troll in keys

cinder flume
#

At this point just cap our aoe dmg, i don't care anymore

loud kettle
real flax
somber karma
#

So is this +/- nothing for Keys?

drifting nova
hallow kelp
lavish wedge
hushed crescent
drifting nova
ocean condor
harsh jungle
#

Could it actually be a kotg angle in m+ now?

drifting nova
loud kettle
#

Archon 2.0(3.0/8.0), probably just as reliable

crude void
craggy sonnet
lofty depot
craggy sonnet
#

kotg is horrible

lofty depot
#

fuck u gonna do outside of cds dawg

rancid sonnet
formal sable
#

Kotg ain’t that bad

languid lava
#

Kotg is so incredibly unfun to play. Why’d they do us like this

drifting nova
harsh jungle
#

Unlucky

delicate perch
formal sable
#

KoTG feels more like boomy than starfire spam

drifting nova
#

listen, kotg buffs st by 24%

#

and st is still dog

harsh jungle
drifting nova
#

let that sink in

crude void
#

If EC changes are a net + in any way this buff is kinda meh but at least raid single target gets better

merry ibex
#

Can't get a straight buff lmao

#

Peak comedy

severe terrace
orchid leaf
#

If they want KotG to be better why not just buff that? Why these weird aura buffs and and specific nerfs? It feels so inconsequecial.

delicate perch
#

Minigame is not content grow up please

severe terrace
#

are you really gonna tell me that accurate

formal sable
#

KoTG does a lot more dam in keys with 2pc2pc but in higher keys u need that stam

warm atlas
#

Please refer back to my troll post. I knew they would give a small % buff with some ridiculous nerf to go with it LOL

harsh jungle
gleaming kiln
#

NO WAY WE BUFFED

severe terrace
#

well its both wrong

#

and irrelevant

solemn granite
#

ā€œBuffedā€

real flax
#

the design is bad as it stands for now so we only can get numbers up and down

cinder flume
#

It's really not tho. arcane doesn't do a lot of damage, it just has prio

lavish wedge
severe terrace
#

but that is not even true

#

look at any real key

sacred whale
#

but you played KOTG with other stats right?

#

Mastery crit manly?

harsh jungle
cinder flume
#

it is true.

real flax
drifting nova
#

I cant wait for the shitshow of the "new" hero talents next xpac

severe terrace
#

i mean

drifting nova
#

surely

severe terrace
#

not in real keys

rancid sonnet
severe terrace
#

which is all that matters anyway

craggy sonnet
hushed crescent
cinder flume
#

in real keys you have a frost dk and/or destruction warlock

#

you don't need even more padd aoe dmg

#

lol

severe terrace
#

it does

#

in a few

#

and

craggy sonnet
#

ok?

formal sable
severe terrace
#

does still top 5 in most

#

like

brittle tapir
#

Top 5 out of 5

wraith wave
#

top 5/5 POG

brittle tapir
#

Peak

lucid oriole
#

5% incoming dmg buff but they nerfed aoe chosen

severe terrace
#

na that website is pulling from keys that are simply irrelevant

gleaming kiln
#

But its a little buff right? Aprox 2/3%

crude void
#

DƓRA

real flax
steel charm
hushed crescent
dry compass
#

we waited two weeks for a 5% aura while the other bottom specs also got buffed so we're still bottom?

lavish wedge
#

Literally the only relevant keys?

earnest flicker
wraith wave
#

you should look at the top 20 keys instead, which all run boomkin rn!

ornate thicket
#

which is the real balance here or paladin discord 😮

severe terrace
slender dragon
#

GUYS WE ARE BACK ??????

tepid mountain
#

Where can u see buffs, sorry new to discord/game xD

real flax
cinder flume
#

solved

covert hedge
whole sundial
#

they clowning us now

real flax
#

even wowhead making fun

novel ice
#

it seems like a nerf more than buff

novel ice
#

lol

gleaming kiln
feral tinsel
#

Basically they didnt want to buff ec by 5% for m+ so they nerfed other things ?

severe terrace
#

if you can bring one

pallid solar
#

I dont get why so much malding, I get boomie is bad rn, but why every class discord gets flooded with complains every time a class is not meta, when boomie has been tier S class for M+ nonstop since DF preaseason 2

severe terrace
#

it depends on dps

crude void
#

Problem is they nenrfing the 2p for EC is making EC's tier set even bigger of a joke

real flax
#

pin pin piiiin

lofty depot
cinder flume
stiff totem
#

Okay now we actually close the discord and hold out for 10% Smile

dry compass
lucid olive
#

<@&114146878353833984> pin this and delete my latest

slender dragon
#

1,8% m+ lol

harsh jungle
#

So are we gonna be top on boss dmg now

robust oracle
#

are we getting buffed? is that true?

tiny ridge
#

lets go

sacred whale
#

Boomkins Buffed Without Closing Class Discord - Upcoming Class Tuning the title of wow head

lucid olive
#

also @normal pilot can probably add that people can sim the hotfixes themselves with ptr=1 in expert mode header

sacred whale
#

kekw

hollow flint
#

This guts our pvp burst in both EC and KotG. So heavy handed.

orchid leaf
hushed crescent
delicate perch
lofty depot
robust oracle
#

oh, because its edited?

#

thought its not up to date

silk acorn
lofty depot
#

oh rekt they havent pinned it

#

tragic

#

here u go buddy

harsh jungle
lucid olive
#

the internet janitors are sleeping!!!

lofty depot
#

tettles is literally live

delicate perch
#

Is he though

#

Is he really

ionic oak
#

He mad or nah

cobalt flare
#

hes in a key lol

gloomy nexus
#

How is it under 5% for Kotg? Isnt it just 5%?

robust oracle
#

anyways, what place are we going to perform most likely in raid? is balance now mid or even good?

dreamy locust
#

You dont ignore spenders, Boomy was already good in M+ so they didnt want to change EC much,

lofty depot
#

the same we are now

distant shuttle
lofty depot
#

ur just a little bit higher

#

congratz

crude void
pallid solar
# cinder flume maybe bc it has been dogshit in raid for at least that long ?

if u make a class super strong in aoe and super strong in ST, its just nonsense, am all pro-meta, I dont agree with saying "every class can be played at the same strength", I think having a meta pushes pple to actually try new classes they might not try otherwise, but what u guys asking is just not really possible in my opinion, boomie just got out of M+ meta (not completely even, MDI players already talking it can be in more than one comp with a slight buff, that btw just got rn, even if 1%), and they trying to adjust the ST slowly without breaking M+

tulip bay
#

what if we kissed on the wowhead moonkin buff post
šŸ‘‰šŸ¤¤šŸ‘ˆ

harsh jungle
#

Wtf

lofty depot
#

there u go

#

have fun

dreamy locust
cinder flume
harsh herald
#

Whenever I finish a raid boss top 3, my first reaction isn't that I played well. It's that my group must suck. I shouldn't be up here.

cinder flume
#

There's classes in the game that sacrifice very little st for aoe

#

makes no sense

crude void
pallid solar
#

never ever, on god

drifting nova
dreamy locust
#

If you were doing bad in M+ before buffs, skill issue

#

or doing 2's

cinder flume
rancid sonnet
#

is boomy actually good in keys?

earnest flicker
harsh jungle
stiff totem
#

@dreamy locust based

pallid solar
lofty depot
crude void
pallid solar
final sable
dreamy locust
#

Yes boomy is good in keys

slow coral
drifting nova
#

just pull bigger so your numbers are huger

#

simple

astral surge
#

let me be honest, i just grow bored out of EC

cinder flume
harsh jungle
#

EC is turbo boring

hushed crescent
pallid solar
dreamy locust
drifting nova
#

EC poops all over kotg