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90% decline in keys;/
Why is blood dk second?
no one likes boomking
factual
If there is a balance druid page on paladin discord will a ret page be added on druid disc?
can you please provide the lore on this?
I have no idea
The TL;DR is that wowhead talked shit about our strike so we one-upped them and went to bat for balance druids everywhere
congratz @pallid bay
tyty š«”
(This is all mostly a bit)
definitely not the heroes we wanted. maybe still not the heroes we need.
Not streaming š
Probably not
If we donāt get buffs do we riot the rets?
im benched bro
ye
Is this wowhead talking shit? Should Boomkins Close Their Class Discord to Get Single Target Buffs? - Boss Damage DPS Balance
hi youtube i was here before the shut down


your spec is too shit man, fix
2018
Tuning confirmed i think

Ragebaiting is cool
š„±
Dang it i saw someone else post and thought it was real sry
surely
I swear to gaybin if resto gets nerfed im š¤
context

Feel free to just look at bluetracker.gg or u know look at the post
#balance message
https://www.wowhead.com/news/should-boomkins-close-their-class-discord-to-get-single-target-buffs-boss-damage-378425?utm_source=discord-webhook
Someone didnt read the article huh
guys i auto decline every single ret who signs up for my groups because of what they did -dont allow that to happen to us
ah i thought youtube was getting shut down

That's kinda toxic, notcal is here for us
Ya who else is gonna br you when you die cause you didnāt bear form?
dk, paladin
Dk can do it i think
bear
The resto druid
stop that right now, mister
HMU if you want the weak aura that auto declines pink damage class
Iām gonna add a line in my post calling Chay a big old bitch
mom get the camera
Can the weak aura be made to decline any bm hunters, bdk, frost mages?
Lol, if it can be made for one, it can be made for all
Just gonna queue my key and auto decline everyone
Man of chaos
They gonna hit us with a nerf after that
I hope the balance discord opens up on the paladin discord soon 
Tragic
anyone knows when the buffs are coming?
Not soon enough brƶther
Quite content that my 5 seconds in photoshop is making the rounds
One spec is better than the other
U also likely have funny stats and could gain 1-2% from fixing that
i have
Must be in mythic spec, should only be 1M less
I NEED more vers
Yes
Well 23-20 is not 0
I cant even chat in m+ discord server ;/
So fix ur math too
dont tedll me its cause of freaking convoke
Iām gonna be mad if they do buff us but itās like an EC buff to make that better in ST. If I have to refuck with all my stats again Iāll scream.
The root of all evil
Well kinda
They nerf EC so I can rise
No
ill be playing M+ soo idc
No, want haste for ec
How about instead of spawning a dryad we spawn her again
Seek help
honestly all of druid hero talents are lackluster
no EC is perfect
i love ec
i hate dryads and treants
Didn't ask
you just have low standards
you mad cause you know EC is superior
"ayo lets remove parts of their kit and call it a spec"
its the best part about it
looking for help as to why my starsurge crit rate was so low. i thought i played pretty well apart from some conservative bear forms late in p2 (guild's hps throughput is quite weak, and id rather we kill)
comparing this to rank ~20, near identical kill time and CD cadence
You have less crit
YOU HAVE
You have no crit
under half his crit?XD
lmao
No Crit sending it wrong aswell
crit is useless dude, 50/50 either way
U sent that buffed surge outside of ca
all secondaries are a trade-off though right at this point? it shouldn't result in such extreme variance otherwise the sim would value crit more dramatically when running something like droptimizer
like I have 9,468 crit rn which is 14%
but I also have a heroic astral antenna which pumps me to like 25%~50% flux during the fight. You have nothing which is why.
Having more haste does nothing for ur buffed surges
pot is bound to CA, so it simply wasnt up or it would have gone off with that set
Simply can't be true
just feels like the sim should be telling me to throw on crit fiber and change out a ring/neck
Ur first pot is at 003, ur CA is at 513
If the sime tells you to get haste you do something wrong
how does this refute CA and pot being macro'd together?
i mean thats just strange yea
also BTW that other guy? he has fuckin same as me
that trinket gives you so much crit
Ur playing the CA wrong
i cannot fix the fact that the gvault has given me nothing
at mods is pro
Ur sending too many surges and not pooling for the end
Also mods is totally right
Do you have mugzee trinket
but as far as your crit question there you go, get antenna
thats me
Good substitute
Then sending a buffed surge outside of ca
some of the top reports for balance have mug'zee trinket even still
or at least in the first weeks
just the 2nd set of double CAs? or both?
good trinket
Uhhh both
Ur first set u sent a buffed surge out of ca
Also, if the fight is like 630
U should send 1 ca + convoke at 4ish then send the double at 6
how is that possible? im sending the 2nd CA when the first has 2.Xs left
where is the gap?
Gap of ehat
"outside of CA"
i am interpreting that as me sending the 2 buffd surges without CA active
Well ur sending 1 in and 1 out
i see what you're saying, the 2nd set of buff'd surges?
Yes
ahhhhh ok
Do you guys think Enchant Weapon - Council's Guile would be worth it over radiant power?
with the remaining 2s of the 2nd CA, you have to send 2 surges
In raid
otherwise they are unbuffed by your 2nd CA, correct?
got it
these two are kosher though?
idk if anythings necessarily obvious to me at this point, im trying to digest a bit with half or less the retail experience as some of the folks taking pod shots
Welcome to the Internet
i appreciate you rapid fire responding though, its very helpful for clearing up misconceptions and addressing ignorance
Dreamgrove.gg good resource
is this what you mean by pooling during 2nd CA in the opener
Yes
understood
U need the asp to send those last 2 seconds
next week ill show how you can actually translate discourse/help from this discord into log improvement 
yea seems tight, has to be the last two GCDs and cant send it too early
my problem w the compendium is stuff like this. i generally agree with
for most scenarios
but this does nothing to discuss the sheer importance of crit given how the tier set plays and the diminishing returns from this point in the expansion
Sims tell you importance of stats,

droptimizer did not tell me to use crit missives, crit fiber, and swap out a ring
It does if u try it
why would you not listen to the robot which can do more math in a second than I can in a month?
You either didnt input stuff correctly, or other stats are better
U assumed u only use haste mastery cuz we always did
could be user error, im not going to say the sim is wrong
i definitely clicked what i thought would include those options in the iterations
If guide says any stat best, then there will be 10,000 of you coming in with all one stat
wondering why they do nothing
When did u do this
Show sim maybe
Stat DR's and fluctuation are cringer than ever this season
nah i wasnt blindly following that priority, look at my neck and i sim'd bracer missive which did tell me to roll Crit/Mast
ill show sim though. i am here to grow and learn
That's fine, but like if ur gear is very heavy haste, that means u maybe didnt sim the mastery + Crit/vers items
xddd
Very skilled
Just crit
its crazy because i made so many pushes for r1 feral in classic, and i lost hair and sanity over shred crit rate denying me 100s
This rng piss me off
i thought for sure retail had less of that
why haven't we shutdown the balance section on discord yet?
the paladin discord did it for us
i think there is no tuning notes today
do i aoe or single target cpt dailcry?
either in 20 mins or 3 hours
sim just says re-craft weapon, which was second'd several times
Aoe
interestingly it doesnt want me to swap gems or fiber
and perhaps more interesting is that its giving me a ~10k dps delta on this decision
kewl
but going back to that log comparison, my crit relative to his cost me nearly 1M dps, not 10k lol
play potent enchant on heroic talent
Did you even checkmark swap gem/enchants
Yea, well.. they are unable to design a good tier bonus. Wcyd
no since their is no sims with other gems
buffs in 30
im triggered by your profile pic

thats why
3 hours of copium reserves left
I mean.. just because you run another crit missive or fiber doesn't guarantee you to crit either
You can't just look at stats like that
Robot is gonna tell you what nets you the highest avg
u have to check this
You can and should also sim the other stat buffs on the belt
thank you but the overwhelming response to "why did I do 1M dps less than someone while sending the same # of surges in the same kill time" was "you need more crit"
oof thank you, limited retail literacy rn and trying to catch up
Im running on empty
We have ascended the need for buffs, we exist so wowhead can meme on us for clickbait titles now
Ok, take everything anyone says at face value
Thats a good thing to do on the Internet
Crit over haste with this tier set ? š¤
Just sim your stuff properly and and you will be fine
You can't do anything against crit variance in a single pull
90000 crit š
On very bursty specs, or specs with LARGE hits, theres just variance based on if your big ability crits or doesnt crit
Its very likely your stats are pretty bad and could gain a lot, but also theres just RNG
1m dps for crit variance itās a lot šŖ
The like 150m ur missing like idk 50-80m of that is u sending outside of ca
correct and thatās the biggest takeaway from this back and forth
iām literally playing it incorrectly
But yeah, 99% of posts say, Why am I doing less than X/Y is
Mistakes in play, and/or bad gear
Mainly mistakes in play
yea this one was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the tier set
It's pretty strange
i saw the whole āsend 2 GCDs before treesā and thought i was golden with at least the first set of buffed surges
was not thinking about the pooling and the second set
to be fair the tierset is janky af
facilitates such bad gameplay
yea the 12s CA and 10s dryad is a wild choice
On top of every cd not syncing
balance is just a mess lol
Its very counterintuitive
30 or 45 sec trees, 2 charges 90 or 105 second cd on CA
2 min convoke
good luck when control bugs out
i appreciate the grace. iām going to fucking blast next week
You can do it champ
Whatās ur mistake ?
Staying boomkin
just scroll up. was playing CA wrong. was coping about crit (although that does have huge variance impact)
the wild choice is 10s treants and 10s dryad
for sure lol
the funnier part is the drastic difference between the two hero trees
one you gotta juggle cds
other just hit starfire ook ook
when running M+ with the 4pc tier is it just send it when the cooldown is up and recycle. Don't dance around anything special?
I apparnetly need more EC in my game play. Trying to time out the dryad is a pill; great when I get it right, sucks that it is rare I get it right.
You want to FoE before CA
Thats about it
this group is cooked no?
@carmine vigil is this you or an imposter?
Play feral, and do a floodgate or ara-kara
In a M+ or Council build and going EC build, should i ONLY cast Starfire and avoid Wrath unless it's the 2 casts to get into eclipse?
gg chickens, it is friday end of day and wowhead is now meme'ing on us too š
Is it legal for wowhwead to so that?
Someone in this channel told me we get buffs today.
Getting to the last hour of the workday; was I lied to?
In this channel probably
They probably got the panda classic buff mixed up with retail
they busy playing Silksong
Understandable
they like going overtime
i am 100% prepared to be disappointed today
Yeah not happening
i remember this stuff coming in as late as idk 2+ hours from now
so idk why we dooming
already
Are weapons even worth sacrificing a vault for these days? Got 2h crafted already (won't get Mythic Voidkris for sure, maybe the Soulbinder staff later down the line)
u could get soulbinder staff literally tomorrow
2/8 is so free
its him
hes doing weekly keys on pally
so stat prio for keys is haste/mastery yea?
and no one was appling so i got home and queued ke
yes
ty
yea I mean I gotta pug, but should be doable I guess. So either Ring or bust then, I take it?
uh
that good question
funny atrocityui maybe
actually that doesnt make sense
cuz sawyer would be diff
hmmm
might want to start looking for a belt
have the plexus one in my bags thankfully
is your Fiber Mastery? looks purplier than the crit one at least
Patch notes up
YOU
But nerf to our M+ capabilities
cause of m+ being fine
+5% all dmg
.
either will be a 1% buff or something
5% aura buff is a joke
ok read the lines below it
Would have to balance out the m+ with raid buffs otherwise we would become m+ machines again
yea cant have that pshh
so they make us even worse in m+ for raid
read the first one, if they are buffing raid (5% all) then they are going to nerf something in M+ so we dont get overbuffed
prob 1% buff EC or 1% nerf or w/e
its a dps increase in every scenario
I will ride for paladins forever now, thanks king
its net 0
yes it will be a buff
Boomy gets 5% overall buff
(This had nothing to do with our meme today, but Iām happy for you guys)
too bad the buff is kinda mid
Raid up - m+ 0 or down. GGs
Itās not enough close the discord now
still be bottom in raid anyways xD
ya we going from last to last
The paladins got 2 buffs! Whereās ours
Never enough
this is such a fucking joke
i dont even know if it's worth
we are not
its not even 5% buff with the tier set nerfs
it's a garbage buff smh
the biff
its legit 0% buff
Buff
We're good in keys relax
I swapped to mage last week. This doesn't make me want to come back.
feels like nothing.
I say we get tettles to make a video āthe worst spec and how it can be fixedā instant 20% buff coming out way
this bait
this is some kinda joke
close the discord
close the discord
close the discord
we need to close the discord
Good news! Were bad in raid AND M+ now! š
close the discord
Close the discord
close the discord
Close the discord
close the discord
Clos the discord
close the discord
Close the discord
Close the discord
close the discord
shut up
Close the discord
I literally just joined this group to see if everyone was moaning and waiting for balance buffs⦠and I joined and they came in⦠thatās a star signā¦
stfu
Close the discord
close the discord
Ornaments of the Mother Eagle 2-piece: Starfire damage increased by 15% (was 20%). - Does that mean the tier set is going to be buffed by 15% or nerfed by 5%
i don't know if i'm being dumb or not but it looks like buffed
NO LOWBALL OFFERS
nerfed 5%
why does it say "increased by 15"
our guild is gonna be hopefully finishing off LFR this week and i was really hoping we would get a buff š
its the set bonus
read it again bro
was 20
tooltip was "increased by 20"
its a change to the current 20% buff
This man isnāt a Druid he re rolled evoker he ditched the spec now he witnessed buffs and wants to return
so its buff or nerf kekw?
Because it says the full description
Surprised fdk didn't take another hit
m+ mains who dont even know if its an overall buff or nerf crying
theres no nerfs
Its a net 0
calm down
stfu
overall it's a fucking joke
right ok
shut up @ocean coral
cmonnow, clearly says nerf omg
wtffffff
why cant they just buff us to middle of the pack man
yeah
what is this

i pre-loaded that
for m+ it seems its still a 3~ percent buff
so it's only net 0 in m+
close the discord
how is it in raid
hm. who wants to bet they even get the 5% aura buff done correctly
am i in the bin?
buff the st is not that hard
thats not 10%
ya u went from bottom to bottom
deep in the bin
FUCK
wave to the fotms
dryad nerfed on accident
were just a different flavor of bad
@lofty depot how are we feeling about buffs
5% starsurge buff in a different way pog
Yeah just gonna put my boomkin in the trash can
5% aura buff is cringe
blizzard trolling ?
also it's not gonna be 5% due to rounding
i want 3% starsurge buff

and it shouldnt
you're only get 4.7%
23%
the desire of blizzard don't wanting another strong season of balance in m+ is taking the spec to the lowest in raid
do the math bro. itās clearly -30% nerf in m+

hunters got full buffs no nerfs, wtf
How 2 reroll cat
yeah why is hunter getting buffed
brooos! is it a buff or nerv?
and we get shit
i did the math, and it turns out i dont care about weird minigame and this buff is irrelevant cause i still wont be playing bamkin in raid
ferals are already doing more damage m+ aren't they? why nerf us?
nerf
looks like nerf
Is this bait
wtf
why you so angry today
feral enjoyer
HAHA
aura buff at the top text is the baitiest bait
Its still a minor buff in m+
why do the wowhead articles keep mentioning the class discord? What's the joke or reference here?
Pretty sure
^
is not
the last boss im progging dies next week, feral is sadly fully locked in
You are welcome lads
Ask paladins.
idk tbh
We did it
We're boomkin mains that's the joke
Youāre welcome for the buffs guys
sure is not
Whats wrong with Blizz?
Is this the fix that balance needed???
locked inš±
have in mind we get 5% for ALL spells
wave bye to the fotms

Ret pally shut down the discord at the start of the patch because they were so bad
5% to 0 still 0
also starfire
pally closed their discord and they happened to get a buff at same time
Oooooh okay
Ty @notcal the paladin support made it happen
Can't wait to still never get more than 3 procs
Ya I don't think that 5 percent buff saves us
Its not 5% nerf to starfire nerf
our kotg 4p cap is not increased right ?
Does this mean a 100% aura buff is also 0
They shut down because everyone is a crier there
its nothing
time to close class discord
How can we tank the paladins for getting balance buffed????
maybe it was a typo and it should be 15%
so it's like a 3% buff st?
it worked for them
Maybe they just hate us?
close the discord
this looks like garbage
Hey it might make everyone forget what boomie did s2 shadowlands now
close the discord
close the discord
close the discord
aura buff won't fix balance druid
are the nerfs to the elunes hero tree big or will it be minor? Worried about M+..
honestly. i have felt fine in the raid :D.. i dont know what people are crying about
Youll be fine in m+
open the teamspeak
its a nerf in M+
Jesus you guys
why aren't they buffing wrath by 10% or more, it is purely st
oh hell na
it cant be xD
haha maybe ur mates were bad š
ragebait used to be believeable
Balance is back baby
Balance is back baby
Balance is back baby
Balance is back baby 
is there a good kotg M+ build?
Hi guys, new here just saying hewo ^_^
yeah. i parse 97+ and they do 50-90. so i ques thats why. but still it seems ok.

actually maybe a buff for ec
?
need gamz to rise up
Wait and let experts sim this shi for us lol
Link the parses lets seee em
impressive
im not unhappy with a 5% aura buff
u should
Guys Iāve confirmed⦠there will be changes
minor single target buff minor m+ buff, its kinda insulting as buffs go considering how ass boomy is rn but it is what it is
Am i alone or does this read Like m+ nerf
gz guys u won
only hc this tier
Ornaments of the Mother Eagle 2-piece: Starfire damage increased by 15% (was 20%).
not enough guildies
idk one of the worst specs in the game ill take anything
huh
if you guys want more than a 5% aura buff, you should improve your parses
When do we delete the discord
lol
okay nothing wrong with that
BM's got way better buffs too š„²
im talking with elon rn, gonna get more buffs
that's why they do that bc we take anything
i need my opinion given to me please
DOOOOOOOOOOM
nice logs btw. but at a 97 boomie is still gonna be below like 80% of specs
Wait so how much are the m+ nerfs?
LMAO
MM hunter dodged nerfs phew. Now I can still play it
this
i mean what am i supposed to do cancel my sub
its fine in my guild š
Let's go ! Time to reroll to Balance !
you should see the greys
Mmm guys, this buff is like a fking shit no?
hey guys im out performing the rest of my aotc guild members, so boomy doesnt actually need to be buffed
Nah itās 5% pretty epic
can we try to close discord for see if blizzard will up us ?
Where is the napkin math
Ye you right. It's more so a problem for mythic tbh. Boomies getting benched cause their top is everyones low
I donāt know. I feel good when taking a shit, donāt feel the same with these buffs
We are most likely still bottom if not bottom 3 in raids tho?
What devs

singular
they are max friends
We hate this guy
def closer to 3%
2 weeks to minor aura buff and nerf ec tier set
so, buf for raid, nerf for m+? š
Buff proc chance for EC set pls 
changes nothing for raid, still bottom spec
maybe im just stupid but why is everyone saying a 5% aura buff is actually lower than 5%
good thing I rolled a frost dk for m+ fun
Guys itās not like there wonāt be more tuning in a few weeks time. If we still compete like shite in comparison to other specs. It will come.
starsurge bonus damage from 2 set got nerfed, it's almost half your damage in st
i think we should close the boomy discord now guys
"rounding" whatever that means
more like 4.7%
they nerfed the elune tier set
They should increase the capping of the keeper set
according to an expert earlier
I think the ret discord should close the boomkin discord
yeah great news the spec will not suck in raid in the 11.2.7 1 month before midnight
that says starfire
read all the lines from the post >_>
you're right lol, my bad
do ppl realize 15% increase of 105 is higher total than 20% increase of 100.
i'm so confused
Starfire does a bit of dmg in keys 
thats the wrong tierset
was it buffed or not

no people are dumb

So tell me got buffed or not?
wait then it's just 5% better in raid aside from 2 fights right?
Dear dec since u are fear of the ec to be too strong, why canāt u just buff kotg?
Im confused
clever boy
Mainly raid buff, small M+ buff
Lol

I believe
???????????

Balance is back baby
Balance is back baby
Balance is back baby
Balance is back baby 
my new fav screenshot
Close the discord
i mean its obv a buff. its just meh
back from the underworld to the graveyard yes
Ret got 5% without paying anything
I think they don't understand how the spec works honestly
Close the discord
HODL THE DOOR UNTIL 10% BUFF
still bottom raid anyways
what a joke this "buff" ffs
ec nerf xd, surely that wont go live, surely keeper is just better in m+ if that goes live?
if kotg is the spec in m+
this buff is a joke?
then boomkin isnt worth
If they gave higher than 5% ret discord woulda been shut down again
go kotg
do you see where ret is in the raid overall?
Next addon we rise !:)
Oh I do š
EC will still be better in keys š
they could double it and its still shit in raid xD
they could have done 8% aura and we would be behind
Just keep it closed atp
Boomie has litterally 0 influence for add fights and still worst st. Spread heavy aoe is good? So why they got 0 boomies in soul hunters
damn man...
well, too bad
Sry what is EC?
elunes chosen
Destro and ele got no nerfed
Thanks
the only time we shine in every raid, when the boss with a lot of adds is up and now we can't even perfom there, it's sad af
Imagine they buff bm while its already broken in m+
all I'll say is: thank fuck I prepped a hunter.
If you guys thought a buff in wow was going to make something actually good,
Hi welcome to world of warcraft
Eluneās abandon no more chosen
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Theyāre taking credit for boomies getting the buff by saying them closing the channel is what got it. Really a special bunch.
Swapped two weeks ago and thank fuck
I literally went single target build on soulbinder because adds died to fast
napkin is +2.5-3% on m+
This boss is legit boe trash fight tho
who cares
2.5 buff or nerf?
this 5 % buff will bring us back to the top
kotc is already very good in m+ prio dmg is just way more important
what are the napkin mage changes?
You see the plus sign?
it wont lmao
What about raid?
if u see upside down the table maybe
- usually means an increase
this 5% buff is a joke right?
depends what aura they use š
we good
daaaaaamn look how bad boomy is man smh
add 5% to it
5% should kinda put us more middle of the pack so not too bad
never trust a thing archon says
chill we good
Bm got also 4% so Head on Head Race š
5.61 mil times 1.05 (the 5%) is 5.89 mil... which it still the bottom haha
ššššš
in what world brother
outrageous wtf, nerf boomie, mage and lock need more buffs
The buff will still have us in the bottom 5-6 š
MOTW that was a nice pic hahaha
i should have gonne kyrian
But why dafuck Nerf EC...
Beside this mediocre buff - i am shocked they didnt tune ele and destro ... wtf
yeah but if you ignore soulbinder, soul hunters and araz we're pretty good right?
cuz if they aura buff it, it will be insane
Bring back ravenous frenzy with this tier set
they nerfed some of the stuff so it doesnt get a 5% buff, it gets a lower buff
But why that nerf the 2 Piece of the new set? to op ?
Holy hell that would be too good
thats not enoughš¤£
Quite simple really, boomy is already great in keys
seems odd they nerfed what they did tho
Very
Thatās just not true
Sheehs frost dks will be OP to...
????
no nerfs for frost haha
As one of the 5 survival hunters on planet earth that makes me very sad
Boomie is hard troll in keys
At this point just cap our aoe dmg, i don't care anymore
bet this is archon (they make up data)
is actually very bad
So is this +/- nothing for Keys?
press button gudder
average damage in your +10 is irrelevant don't act dumb
Mythicstats, which is purely based on the top 2k keys per week
thats true
who made this cooked list
so the best players on every spec? whats wrong with that lmao
Yeah this
Could it actually be a kotg angle in m+ now?
might aswell reroll at that point
Archon 2.0(3.0/8.0), probably just as reliable
no way
no
olol no
kotg is horrible
fuck u gonna do outside of cds dawg
mythic stats isn't just 10s tho lol
Kotg aināt that bad
Kotg is so incredibly unfun to play. Whyād they do us like this
nop
holy sample size
Unlucky
Cope
KoTG feels more like boomy than starfire spam
It does
let that sink in
If EC changes are a net + in any way this buff is kinda meh but at least raid single target gets better
bro look where arcane mage is
If they want KotG to be better why not just buff that? Why these weird aura buffs and and specific nerfs? It feels so inconsequecial.
Minigame is not content grow up please
are you really gonna tell me that accurate
KoTG does a lot more dam in keys with 2pc2pc but in higher keys u need that stam
Please refer back to my troll post. I knew they would give a small % buff with some ridiculous nerf to go with it LOL
(:
This site is purely of damage
NO WAY WE BUFFED
āBuffedā
the design is bad as it stands for now so we only can get numbers up and down
It's really not tho. arcane doesn't do a lot of damage, it just has prio
it's literally only about the dps, but meanwhile arcane does small overal, but has insane funnel it's good. Balance is useless in m+, raid is irrelevant and easy
It is true
it is true.
exactly u don't want an arcane for be the spec with most aoe overall in m+ u want arcane for the funnel
I cant wait for the shitshow of the "new" hero talents next xpac
i mean
surely
not in real keys
it is tho
which is all that matters anyway
you know that arcane does not do the highest overall, yea?
u have fake keys or wat
in real keys you have a frost dk and/or destruction warlock
you don't need even more padd aoe dmg
lol
yeah but
it does
in a few
and
ok?
Yeah crit masters 2pc 2pc is most dam for kotg aoe. 2x on use trink goes hard
Top 5 out of 5
top 5/5 
Peak
5% incoming dmg buff but they nerfed aoe chosen
na that website is pulling from keys that are simply irrelevant
But its a little buff right? Aprox 2/3%
DĆRA
something like that
they didnt, math is hard
CHIFIIIIIIII
we waited two weeks for a 5% aura while the other bottom specs also got buffed so we're still bottom?
how are the top 2k keys a week irrelevant, WHAT
Literally the only relevant keys?
So what's the vibe on the buff? I looked at the mythic stats at 90% percentile and cutting out the middle specs to just show the top and bottom I'm seeing: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293211779331260416/1413657389663785061/image.png?ex=68bcba8a&is=68bb690a&hm=417e162e52fc0e4a24d1290547ab46b40af7a08f688aacff19fba27ce4af229a&
Seems like the buffs are very conservative.
you should look at the top 20 keys instead, which all run boomkin rn!
which is the real balance here or paladin discord š®
yeah but destro doesnt have beam or raidbuff
GUYS WE ARE BACK ??????
exaaactly
Where can u see buffs, sorry new to discord/game xD

bring a resto druid š (beam is not that good anyways even more so in pugs)
solved
Nah
they clowning us now
even wowhead making fun
it seems like a nerf more than buff
wowhead
lol

frost mage no buff
i mean
maybe
Basically they didnt want to buff ec by 5% for m+ so they nerfed other things ?
if you can bring one
I dont get why so much malding, I get boomie is bad rn, but why every class discord gets flooded with complains every time a class is not meta, when boomie has been tier S class for M+ nonstop since DF preaseason 2
it depends on dps
Problem is they nenrfing the 2p for EC is making EC's tier set even bigger of a joke
pin pin piiiin
because when peopel complain they arent complaining about m+
maybe bc it has been dogshit in raid for at least that long ?
Okay now we actually close the discord and hold out for 10% 
guess you'll have to cry into arcane being the best spec the entire expac
<@&114146878353833984> pin this and delete my latest
1,8% m+ lol
So are we gonna be top on boss dmg now
are we getting buffed? is that true?
lets go
Boomkins Buffed Without Closing Class Discord - Upcoming Class Tuning the title of wow head
also @normal pilot can probably add that people can sim the hotfixes themselves with ptr=1 in expert mode header
kekw
This guts our pvp burst in both EC and KotG. So heavy handed.
Yea, I kind of wish they'd stop touching boomie.
+10 xd
They donāt really seem to like the ignore spenders gameplay so thatās probably why
read the pin
sim it
Starfire will probably still be top dmg
the internet janitors are sleeping!!!
tettles is literally live
He mad or nah
hes in a key lol
How is it under 5% for Kotg? Isnt it just 5%?
anyways, what place are we going to perform most likely in raid? is balance now mid or even good?
You dont ignore spenders, Boomy was already good in M+ so they didnt want to change EC much,
the same we are now
ya he's rerolling now
It's not good where do you get these info from
if u make a class super strong in aoe and super strong in ST, its just nonsense, am all pro-meta, I dont agree with saying "every class can be played at the same strength", I think having a meta pushes pple to actually try new classes they might not try otherwise, but what u guys asking is just not really possible in my opinion, boomie just got out of M+ meta (not completely even, MDI players already talking it can be in more than one comp with a slight buff, that btw just got rn, even if 1%), and they trying to adjust the ST slowly without breaking M+
what if we kissed on the wowhead moonkin buff post
šš¤¤š
Wtf
From playing the game and being good at it, thoughts?
it literally is possible to be at least middle of the pack in both and that would be fine by me
Whenever I finish a raid boss top 3, my first reaction isn't that I played well. It's that my group must suck. I shouldn't be up here.
oookii sure buddy
maybe by u, typing it now from tier Z raiding, but I did never read "nerf boomie in M+ and buff raid pls"
never ever, on god
lemme know what so I can reroll off the dogshit I play
ele shaman/frost dk/arcane
is boomy actually good in keys?
Mythic 90th percentile top and bottom.
No
@dreamy locust 
oh I dont defend those classes neither, I hope mage somehow gets a full tier F midnight expansion in all their specs, I have same issue with em, being meta forever
idk what that is
stop the ragebait it's legit 0/10
hahahahahahahahah
yes, pple even talking it can make it into MDI cause of the party buff, dmg being enough and having CR
Yes boomy is good in keys
leave frost dk out of this
let me be honest, i just grow bored out of EC
i'm mythic raiding with balance, but ok...
EC is turbo boring
boomy is back?
tier Z raiding as class, not you as an individual
If you thought boomy was bad in M+, its just a skill issue idk what to tell you
EC poops all over kotg


