balance

[jaunty blaze]

making use of shapeshifting

[pearl linden]

What is the DPS loss of antenna vs voidcore?

[jaunty blaze]

bro is gone

[ionic oak]

Robots will tell you

[fossil shard]

Bro just alt f4’d LMAO

[jaunty blaze]

let me check r/wow if bro did a complaint post

[ionic oak]

Lol. If i didnt say the “we need to chill” part
Theyd still be here

[lofty depot]

Depends on ur ability to stand on the orb

[ionic oak]

I opened the door to them feeling attacked

[fossil shard]

No you didn’t

[lofty depot]

Why did blud delete the log?

[fossil shard]

He left

Lol

[jaunty blaze]

ig he left

[lofty depot]

No

He's typing

[fossil shard]

Oh ok there’s hope

[somber merlin]

Shifted into cat mid review and stealthed away

[fossil shard]

Based

[tiny ridge]

;/

[solar maple]

again reminded why i ignore class dicords

[lofty depot]

Why

Surge outside of eclipse

Bad

Should generally send trees at the start of eclipse, not the end

[steep edge]

Bro asking for help > gets help > angry

[deft crown]

bro if you know better why you ask for help? just by lurking in this discord and asking a few question almost doubled my performance in raid

[drifting nova]

whys there no item upgrader

[lofty depot]

Should then also be using CA with ur other CDs, in this case being for and trees

[drifting nova]

like in nerub

[lofty depot]

This is an assumption of mindset cuz of the way ur casting

[tiny ridge]

raid not possible with pug

[lofty depot]

But ur casting into using surge a lot

It is our main damage, but u don't surge unless u need starlord, are gonna cap asp on the next cast, or need to move

@solar maple
Best suggestion is read the guide.

1. Need to look up talent builds
2. Ur doing the old sequence in CDs, it's ok ish, but ur losing damage. Because u don't have trees up for the buffed surges and not double ca-ing.
3. Need to better use CDs together. Trees + CA + convoke.
4. Better prepare for movement. U didn't use wildcharge once.

[deft crown]

can you elaborate this? so what if i have 3 stacks of starlord and have "lots of ap" i should just keep spamming wrath or cancel starlord and shoot the surges?

[lofty depot]

5. Stop taking what people say on the internet so serious

[lofty depot]

Send a surge

Read the "if u'll over cap asp part"

[steep edge]

Just make sure to pool whreb starlord ends

[lofty depot]

Don't cancel starlord

If ur asking if u should cancel, u shouldnt

[deft crown]

what about the cancel starlord macro description?

[lofty depot]

As stated, if u have to ask about canceling. U shouldn't be doing it. It's not a DPS increase. It's neutral at best to do it correctly and at worst ur losing dps

Its feelycraft at best

[deft crown]

thanks

[lofty depot]

I cancel when 2nd trees is up. Cuz starlord is down, u send 3 surges. Then ur pooling for trees at the start of ur next eclipse. So I then pool to 90, enter eclipse trees cancel surge surge surge

Which then corrects the starlord, which is at like 6s or some shit, and feels better

It's not recommended, and not stated in the guide.

[blazing karma]

Raided last night and had a question about when to use starfalls versus starsurges on Naaz, Araz, and Nexus King. I read online that it says 3+ targets, but do I just send it as soon as 3 targets are available or do I care if they are going to be alive for a certain amount of time. Examples are the like the orbs on Araz, or the capsule adds before they all open on Naaz.

[wicked shuttle]

Yeah they need to be alive for the entirety of your starfall at 3t

[lofty depot]

And 3t is if ur not using kindling

[wicked shuttle]

So like nexus king platform you’ll starfall (it’s still bad damage but you do it anyways)

Forgeweaver, most people play kindling because you starfall 2t with kindling and with the collectors / echoes it’s just worth

[lofty depot]

How would tettles know what to do on nexus king

[wicked shuttle]

You do starfall the balls

[lofty depot]

He's on the bench

Silly chicken

[wicked shuttle]

Uh huh

[clever vigil]

Thats crazy

[lofty depot]

A shut up kitty

[clever vigil]

mage player typing

[lofty depot]

Scritch scratchy little rat

What the

Nuhuh

[clever vigil]

i'm boomy on dimmy

[lofty depot]

Really

[wicked shuttle]

Why?

[blazing karma]

Okay, that's good to know! My logs were a total mess last night because the kills times all shifted by 30 seconds x.x

[lofty depot]

What the

[clever vigil]

good question

[lofty depot]

Lock in, big amp dam

[wicked shuttle]

lotta heroic bosses i just elect to full ST the boss the entire time

and not worry too much about AOE

[lofty depot]

U see cool new tech

[clever vigil]

bad for adept feral I think

[tiny ridge]

so experience means nothing

in pugs

[clever vigil]

good for go back 1 mo and gear my ele shaman

[clever vigil]

did I miss something

[blazing karma]

Oh, noice! That is basically what I was doing haha... especially when we had a MM hunter destroying adds...

[clever vigil]

[wicked shuttle]

ah yes the no mastery build

of course

[wicked shuttle]

yeah we dont really AOE that well on low HP mobs

[lofty depot]

Araz 5second fuggn amp build

Should still be fine on dimmy

[wicked shuttle]

wait is the boss sunfired alrdy

[lofty depot]

Is it my first day?

[clever vigil]

I love making my already too short incarn 6 seconds shorter

[wicked shuttle]

you said new tech

thought you were cooking

[lucid olive]

which soul hunter boss are you sending on

[lofty depot]

Yea it's already dotted in intermission

[lucid olive]

whos your favorite

[lofty depot]

Well I didn't cook it, clanker did

I'm just the tool

[wicked shuttle]

whatever ones are stacked

i just change targets a lot

LMFAO

[lofty depot]

^^

Fuggn bosses always dashing away man

[subtle sail]

go shaman

[clever vigil]

U go shaman

ur shaman is literally geared

[lofty depot]

It's ok, I told adept he was playing boomy and he is

That's a w

Buffs incoming forsure

[subtle sail]

but hunter is good!

[clever vigil]

I will never hear the end about ur black arrow procs

[subtle sail]

look at what orc did last night!

[clever vigil]

there it is

[lofty depot]

Hunter is good, hunter players are not

[subtle sail]

fuck you man!

[exotic perch]

except for the BM 4 piece

that shit is hilariously bad

[subtle sail]

wtf stampede owns I love hearing the horn

[exotic perch]

its so dumb lmao

[wicked shuttle]

🌩️

[exotic perch]

what a whack tier set like our 2

[lofty depot]

[subtle sail]

See adept just gear your shaman and show up its chill

ill handle truefire

[clever vigil]

love content farming

[wicked shuttle]

bro surely feral is better than balance on that boss

be fr youre not hitting the fucking living mass

[clever vigil]

yeah but is me piloting feral better on that boss

[exotic perch]

p sure you just single target as feral the entire time if you do that

[subtle sail]

yeah but we play ret pally so no room

[wicked shuttle]

youre gonna single target as boomy too

[exotic perch]

someone didnt play in amirdrassil

or were you a boomy holdout

[subtle sail]

adept feral is good he was forged in amirdrassil

[clever vigil]

[lofty depot]

If boomy takes orb, u do no mechanics and get uptime

Take or

[jade drift]

we just killed soulhunters and on nexus king i was feral until last night

[lofty depot]

So ur fine at piloting feral

[jade drift]

now im benched

[clever vigil]

no i suck

[lofty depot]

Clearly u dont

🙂

[clever vigil]

I don't think its that bad team.....

[wicked shuttle]

cant take orb

healers need orb

[lofty depot]

Yea, but I need orb

[exotic perch]

hello fellow bencher

[lofty depot]

My uptime

[exotic perch]

its very chill

[wicked shuttle]

we're waiting to see what the class tuning is gonna be b4 we figure out balance vs ele for me

@thick stirrup

[lofty depot]

Makes sense

[wicked shuttle]

how was Moonkin in P1

[lofty depot]

Dwilkz did reclear on boomkin

We're so back if we get buffed

[pseudo merlin]

keep dreaming buddy

[clever vigil]

learning dimmy as moonkin so when the 15% aura buff hits the week we kill it i am doing unstoppable dam >>> 💯

[jaunty blaze]

Holy 15%

[clever vigil]

[pallid bay]

one of the choices of all time

[tiny ridge]

i have not to soak this

[fading perch]

do we know when tuning will be?

[tiny ridge]

but at the same time i have no space to move

[wicked shuttle]

i think alco was playing it too in infinity for a little bit

[clever vigil]

et tu dsune?

[wicked shuttle]

well if it's not tomorrow we just close the server down

[fading perch]

makes sense lol

[pallid bay]

https://imgur.com/JyEDPzE

[subtle sail]

tell him bro

[lofty depot]

@ mods pin this

[exotic perch]

probably friday

[tiny ridge]

2 weeks with shit vaults 2 weeks with no trinket drop 😄

[ionic oak]

This is what we need

[exotic perch]

they will release the notes and then tues live

[ionic oak]

Youve played wow before right?

[pallid bay]

maybe bamkin is good..

[clever vigil]

do 100 keys with me this week so I can gear lavadept

[pseudo merlin]

no

[pallid bay]

cd for platform..

[lofty depot]

@clever vigil there's the tweet

[pallid bay]

0 add damage..

[tiny ridge]

yes and never experienced this

[lofty depot]

U have reach right

[clever vigil]

I have ZERO motion

[wicked shuttle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8hv1AMpDd4WHcXNT?boss=3135&difficulty=5&wipes=1&type=damage-done holy moly alco is PARSING on the first 1:30 of dimensius

WOW

[clever vigil]

that guys beating a mage and two warlocks

[pallid bay]

nice breakdown

[clever vigil]

Nvm its chopped

[wicked shuttle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8hv1AMpDd4WHcXNT?boss=3135&difficulty=5&wipes=1&type=deaths&cutoff=3

[clever vigil]

wheres the i fell for it award

[wicked shuttle]

LMFAO

[pallid bay]

[wicked shuttle]

i was worried about that being my experience

holy fuck

[exotic perch]

classic mk and hunters

[pallid bay]

actually swapped feral to moonkin

[stable raven]

quick sanity check, is there any reason to play keeper in keys > 15

[wicked shuttle]

keeper sucks in M+ this season

[stable raven]

thats what i thought, i just got shit for not playing keeper in a 16 😄

ppl be weird i guess

[pallid bay]

just a couple more mechanics and evolve wins

[wicked shuttle]

Evolve gaming

[pallid bay]

nvm..

[normal pilot]

hm more useless info?

[subtle sail]

Damn asking me on a date infront of all these people?

[pallid bay]

yeah useless

[clever vigil]

[normal pilot]

spec so bad can't even make up useful things

[lofty depot]

why is he sending funny spread sheets

dam tarisant goated

[tiny ridge]

zap cap best trinket

[lofty depot]

damage proc trinkets are better the worse u are

[gentle patio]

After watching tettles video, I think this is accurate:
https://i.imgur.com/yMwhEXW.png

[tiny ridge]

they proc 0

[ebon sail]

@lofty depot - realised why my dps was lower than expected in M+, was using an on-use trinket and wasn't using it at all lol. TIL ready trinket tooltips properly.

[still juniper]

hey friends, any good youtube channels for 15-18+ keys with walkthroughs or guides focusing on balance druid? thanks in advance!

[sudden pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/870682754705150003/1396636223233200249/attachment.gif

[scarlet tapir]

Goated playing the easiest spec in the game...

[royal zenith]

hey guys did we get buffed yet

[tiny ridge]

no

[pseudo merlin]

define buffed

[royal zenith]

good question..

[pseudo merlin]

uhm

How does tomorrow at 00:11 work

[glacial spindle]

Whatever definition the answer is no apparently. I am trying to main it been watching all week for updates. Sadge

[pseudo merlin]

🦆 is speaking from the future?

[digital berry]

Surely tomorrow

[lofty depot]

arcane hard

dev easy, bm easiest

[vital hull]

Any walkthroughs like this for balance Druid in M+ for any levels of keys 10+?

[golden belfry]

Press moonfire, sunfire, explode

Repeat

[lofty depot]

id say krona usually does it, but he was playing feral

[scarlet tapir]

Arcane is not hard bro...

U just blast and barrage when the weakaura tells you

Gg

[lofty depot]

yeayea

[scarlet tapir]

Source: i play it

[golden belfry]

dwilkz will probably have some dungeon vids coming out soon, has an eco dome and gambit up atm

And yeah krona was playing feral

[dry compass]

Just made me think about when they said they wanted raid healing to be less spiky

And yet we got another raid full of dots where you die if your healers aren't pocketing you and raid wide hits that one shot if you're not topped

[digital berry]

This raid is cool but goddamn us it designed against balance Druids

[dry compass]

Full of target swaps and one shots and big movement requirements

Yup

[glacial spindle]

What flasks and shit are people using these days

[digital berry]

Whatever sims best( probably alchemical chaos and tempered pots )

[craggy sonnet]

im more of a mana potion type of guy

but yea, if you are using dmg pots regularly then alchemical chaos is best. algari mana oil on weap. beledars bounty or any of the other (i think there are more?) highest secondary foods

[covert coyote]

tomorrow at 00:11 is crazy

[pseudo merlin]

I think it's because my local time is 2 hours before my home time so my PC is seeing local and home clocks and is just like: fuck it, we're in the future

[lucid olive]

++++

[drifting nova]

does abandon deplete the key or

[pseudo merlin]

No you can abandon as much as you want and just bypass the resilient system and never deplete key

[drifting nova]

[pseudo merlin]

Kekkers

[drifting nova]

wdym kekkers

my dumb arse couldve implemented a synposis of this dogwater system

in 4mins

[pseudo merlin]

You couldn't even find the abandon button

[drifting nova]

WHAT BUTTON

that's how cooked this is

actual private server esque implementation

at best

[pseudo merlin]

How many people have you held hostage in keys this season Kekkers

[drifting nova]

me? none

was real close to swapping tank and bricking keys for an hour

[formal wasp]

Is Jastor's a simbait? Mine still sims over my 704 rings

[lofty depot]

it sims correct, its bugged on live

[pseudo merlin]

Jastor's is bugged in raid

[lofty depot]

sometimes ur buff has worse uptime

[pseudo merlin]

you can have anywhere from 1% to 90% uptime

[formal wasp]

Oh sick, so just assume its worse than 704 rings then?

[pseudo merlin]

go check your logs see how high you roll

no other way to answer that question

[lofty depot]

well its not worse when it works

but if u have a ring that sims close enough then its stam + not having to deal with a bug

[formal wasp]

kekw

[pallid bay]

bro did not do that..

[formal wasp]

Ooof and 14% on another kill. Yeah thats outta here. Ty for the info gamers

[pseudo merlin]

damnm

stay away from the casinos

[lofty depot]

well gallywix is dead, so he cant fix his ring being bugged

from a lore perspective it makes sense

[willow thicket]

yo did you guys see the latest wowhead news?

[lofty depot]

can u be more specific

[willow thicket]

wowhead.com

[lofty depot]

yea, so like are u trying to bait or r u asking about the firelands shit

[spice thunder]

Do you have any tips on how to push the adds on Araz? I killed him last week, but this week I can’t push them properly — either too late or too early.

[lofty depot]

cuz i refresh page like every 30 minutes waiting on bluepost

so if ur baiting seek help

[lofty depot]

wait til they spawn?

idk

what r u doing

like u have like 2-3 seconds to push them

idk why ur trying to like perfect gcd their spawn

[spice thunder]

I mean the situation when you spawn an add and need to push them after

[jade drift]

Sams

Same

Ngl im starting to be anxious about this

[sudden flame]

check wowhead

[jade drift]

This is making me sick

[lofty depot]

wild charge and typhoon

[spice thunder]

Should I use Typhoon while it’s still flying, or after it lands? Do I need to take the talent for the extra Typhoon radius?

[lofty depot]

well wild charge is off gcd so u can just do it when u move

no

[willow thicket]

baiting 🙁 ofcourse we arent getting any good shit

[spice thunder]

I’ve seen people use Typhoon right next to the mobs, and theirs fly straight, but mine go in different directions. Thanks a lot, I’ll give it a try!

[lofty depot]

yea, we should ban baiters

or atleast 1day thyme them out

fuggn rats

[lofty depot]

idk, i never had an issue

[willow thicket]

did have a question though, I have myth parapodia, myth gigazap, and hero lily of the eternal weave and sacbrood, both raidbots and stuff like liquidarmory (and bloodmallet iirc) put gigazap+parapodia ahead in AOE, do I trust these sims, unironically? the trinket seems to do shit damage in actual dungeon scenarios

[lofty depot]

idk why u would trust lists that arent ur character

[pallid bay]

why do you have myth gigazap

😭

[lofty depot]

but then again u like baiting so i guess it goes with the culture

[willow thicket]

exaltedly dogshit vault

[lofty depot]

take a sockety

[pallid bay]

id pick a socket honestly

[golden belfry]

Should have a socket then

[lofty depot]

what

[willow thicket]

I saw the trinket buffs and thought yolo, maybe it'll be worth something

[pallid bay]

i will not be taking this bait

[willow thicket]

but can we not ignore the elephant in the argument

trinket is actual dogshit right?

[craggy sonnet]

can re-equip before every pull .. apparently fixes it

[fossil shard]

yolo on week 2 is diabolical

[lofty depot]

yea thats what i think when i see blue posts, "oh shit gigablast is my bis"

[fossil shard]

LOL

[lofty depot]

diabolical

[willow thicket]

no tier set, other myth piece was the shitty trinket from HoA

i can get a socket later

[fossil shard]

yeah but you can DE/delete the gigazap now

[golden belfry]

True, now you just have nothing

[willow thicket]

its not that big of a deal dude, Im not doing mythic, nor am I pushing super high m+

[fossil shard]

press barkskin, we're taking the piss

you deserve it just a tiny bit 😉

[golden belfry]

Then just use the zap cap and don't sweat about it

[willow thicket]

true tbf

[golden belfry]

Why coming here askin

[lofty depot]

most of us like being efficient

[willow thicket]

ur playing boomie u wont get invited into groups either way

[lofty depot]

well u wont

[drifting nova]

y nerf belt

[lofty depot]

im 715 ilvl

i get invited insta

[drifting nova]

are blizzard stupid

[willow thicket]

im 710.5

[fossil shard]

HOLY

I saw a rogue last night that was 719

[pallid bay]

arctic known loot council member..

[lofty depot]

I DID NOT VOTE FOR MY SELF ONCE

[fossil shard]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-halpert-face-yeah-ok-then-sure-gif-19576862

[pallid bay]

would if you could..

[lofty depot]

nop, i said give myth araz to evoker

[willow thicket]

damn how

[lofty depot]

they said he was sitting soul hunter

i said uhh, weirdge

[willow thicket]

to be 719 you 100% need to have been funneled gear right?

[lofty depot]

do splits

not really get funneled

[willow thicket]

i mean 719 makes sense for a mythic raider

[lofty depot]

ive gotten 3 tier slots from vault

[willow thicket]

at myth ilvl?

[lofty depot]

and then 2 mythic trinkest, myth boots from fractilly that no one wants

shoulders from loomithar week 2

[willow thicket]

damn thats fucking lucky

[lofty depot]

yes

[willow thicket]

best luck so far was this wednesday for me with myth parapodia

[lofty depot]

took sockey week 0

didnt have 4p til week 2

[willow thicket]

same

[lofty depot]

ama

[willow thicket]

you said something about refreshing the bluepost page, are we actually expecting something to come for boomie tuning wise?

[golden belfry]

Yeah expecting nerfs

[lofty depot]

theres always class tuning after rwf

[willow thicket]

that would be as funny as it would be tragic

[drifting nova]

anyone got the belt post

[willow thicket]

we're just sandbagging guys we need nerfs

[lofty depot]

seeing as it hasnt happened yet

whos sandbagging

[drifting nova]

wowhead has a broken link

[willow thicket]

everyone says balance players are sandbagging about the spec 😭

[golden belfry]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/the-war-within-patch-1125-development-notes/2149725/6

[pearl linden]

!wa

[drifting nova]

wake me up when blizz stops doing seasonal items

[lofty depot]

yea, "everyone" is a very smart player base

just all the like wf and top like 50 never playing balance all tier

but sandbagging

surelly

[lofty depot]

what r u looking for

[willow thicket]

spec below aug evoker, nothing to see here, completely fine

[pearl linden]

Looking for different weakaura packs

[willow thicket]

buff warlock

[lofty depot]

dreamgrove.gg

use the oibalance pack

[pearl linden]

ahhtyty

Is it just omega

[lofty depot]

they were too scared to let us be mid cuz our tierset could delete things

so they just made us shit

[lofty depot]

uhh its hte best one

[pearl linden]

This pack goes hard

[lofty depot]

its updated for things

[fresh night]

So simming my gear for ST-KotG just tries to get rid of all my haste. But for the cleave/elune fights (and dungeons I guess) I loose out on damage due to the haste loss. Do people just keep two sets of gear here or you keep a bit of haste in general?

[lofty depot]

and my dad sune made it

[lofty depot]

yes

[golden belfry]

Two sets

[lofty depot]

i just change neck and rings

i have like 23k haste

in st i have 3.5k

[fresh night]

aah fair, should farm some haste rings then

[willow thicket]

I had too much haste/mast I started simming more damage with crit/mast gems

[lofty depot]

i need to farm hoa

[willow thicket]

i alrdy got the good stuff out of it luckily

[pearl linden]

I am litearlly omega new so sorry for annoying questions but video wise are there any decent guides out there?

[willow thicket]

that italian lady

forgot the name
edit: found it, its naguura, she might have up to date guides i havent checked

[pearl linden]

LENNART

I see him

[lofty depot]

therse a video in the compendium

[pearl linden]

tyty

[safe egret]

i'm sorryu for the dumb question but how do i craft a 720 weapon? i see the vagabound's bounting baton goes up to 681 in the crafting orders but nothing above that

[lofty depot]

need to put the spark in it, need to buy the enchanted gilded crest

[celest narwhal]

You need enchanted crest + spark

[celest summit]

can you not sim dungeon slice with balance? wont let me

[lofty depot]

correc t

because its not supported

(and hasnt been ever)

[celest narwhal]

MDT sim

[celest summit]

is there a good way to sim aoe?

[golden belfry]

MDT sim, listed in compendium. If don't want to do that just sim 1 target for 5 min

[safe egret]

okay so like this? what embelleshment and secondary stats

[lofty depot]

sim it

[safe egret]

and i assume i go for the gold quality stuff

[lofty depot]

well would u like it to not be 720

[safe egret]

idk how it works so idk

[golden belfry]

Crit/mastery + ascendance for raid usually, set quality in top right to the gold one at the bottom

And yeah will probably need rank 3 materials

[celest narwhal]

Watch a YT vid on the basics of crafting in TWW

And how to use raidbots

[formal wasp]

ty for the info

[safe egret]

this is the sim it came up with. i did crit/master and haste/mastery with every embellishment

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fSWd5bQEwF3BqcJteZDd8G

does that work

[normal pilot]

ya but you also don't have set

[safe egret]

right

i've been waiting for my hero pieces to turn into set

[normal pilot]

the set doesn't scale with haste, hence once you get it you'll want non-haste items

[lofty depot]

u have 2 cata charges + 1 from 2k io/aotc and get 1 next week

[safe egret]

right but my helmet is veteran, wasnt going to waste it on that lol

[half fern]

so i tried to make the most complicated macro ive ever tried to make by googling and coming up with what to put together in the right order. and i can get the back half to work but not the front

/cast [form:2, harm] Rake; [@mouseover, help, nodead] [help] Regrowth

[lofty depot]

yea gotta go farm it i suppose

[half fern]

the mouse over rake wont work (using fluid form talent) but the regrowth works for friendlies

[lofty depot]

why

[safe egret]

i've been doing key 7s, just unlucky so far

[half fern]

why am i trying to make this? or why wont it work?

[safe egret]

doesnt wow have a mouseover option you can just use?

[lofty depot]

why r u trying ot make it

[half fern]

so that when youre in no form and you want to dps you can mouse over and just start putting rakes out and then if you need to heal you can mouse over and start healing and it will be with one bind serving 2 functions without needing to think to much

besides do i want dam or ham

[lofty depot]

1 idk why were raking

[normal vale]

i Cant refresh WoW Head anymore, Blizzard gimme a Post with buffs

[lofty depot]

2 having that on the same button and also beign a mouseover seems just giga troll

[half fern]

ok ill go back to googling and trying dif combos till i find what makes the front half work. cause all of the regrowthing works it pulls me out of any form and starts healing so im guessing i just need another @mouseover in the front half somewhere just unsure where

[round oracle]

maybe just flip them around, /cast @mouseover regrowth
/cast @mouseover rake

or does it force regrowth cast on self or something if u mouseover enemy then

[half fern]

/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] [help] Regrowth; /cast [@mouseover] [form:2, harm] Rake

it changes the icon but it works and does both

when mouse over friendly it changes icon to regrowth when over enemy it goes to rakge

thank you riksu your reversing let the right way i tried it with the simple commands you gave it did nothing so i added all the complicated commands and it made it do what i wanted

[round oracle]

:)

[upper anvil]

why are we raking tho

as a boomie

[half fern]

oh shit i thought i was in resto channel

i see the confusion now

[upper anvil]

i also dont think mouse over raking is even worth it either

since if you just rake once youre in cat form which has different bars anyways

[lilac apex]

What spec are you all using on mythic arax

[half fern]

when you then just put that macro on the same spot of the bar

[lilac apex]

Our first few sets of adds die really quickly

[half fern]

but sorry i for being in the wrong channel but thanks for the help

[round oracle]

I'm using balance

[lofty depot]

go to warcraft logs and check

u can then also see when people use their cds on lorrgs.io

[craggy sonnet]

this does not achieve what you are looking for btw

should regrowth if you have a friendly target but mouseover an enemy

not sure if thats what you want

[safe egret]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s9qsnfFoyFcFMeT3y1nBqB

[half fern]

mouse over a friendly it heals them mouse over a enemy it rakes them its works its accomplished what i want. but this isnt resto channel so i will let this topic go for now

[safe egret]

okay i see

so with them being "set pieces" it's crit instead of haste

[craggy sonnet]

no, it doesnt rake on mouseover if you have a friendly target

[lofty depot]

if u care about raid, u dont want shoulders

but its w.e. in m+ prob

[safe egret]

it was more to get the bot to think i had 4 set pieces, not planning on using the charges there

but why do shoulders suck for raids?

[lofty depot]

haste

yucky

[safe egret]

oh gotcha lol

i thought haste made gcd lower and that would be good tbh

[craggy sonnet]

are you only ever gonna use it with fluid form talented in your noform bar? or does it have to be conditional on the talent being known

[lofty depot]

i mena it does, but that doesnt matter

we get into cap of the dryad very easily so its better to get more from crit and vers

[half fern]

i put it in resto channel.

[safe egret]

i wasnt aware the dryad had a max damage it can do, but i like elune way better tbh

[lofty depot]

well the dryad is the part of the "max"

the dryad casts 1 starfall and 5 surges

[tiny tendon]

what's the reasoning on this being a 50/50 split right now (loomi'thar mythic)

[lofty depot]

but your damage in the 10 second window of the dryad is stored

[lofty depot]

based on kill timing

[tiny tendon]

mmm

[lofty depot]

if u kill it at roughly 6m u use grove

hold ur 4m cas til pot at 5m

and send

[lucid olive]

meaningful choice in talents

there's 45% gigachads and 55% losers

[tiny tendon]

truuuue crit harder

[lofty depot]

well thats not the reason

[tiny tendon]

we are gigachads around here

[lofty depot]

says the one asking

[tiny tendon]

i am not a regular

therefore i am a sheep

[lucid olive]

no thats @vital hound

you are not him

[tiny tendon]

my bad chief

[mighty mica]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/933386399279878154/969756412387409920/caption.gif

[tiny tendon]

[lucid olive]

good one janitor

[delicate perch]

[vital hound]

whatd i do

[drifting nova]

[safe egret]

i know they're memes but do people actually dislike balance druid players lol

[dense steeple]

yes

[tiny tendon]

it's the twitter boomkins

usually

[dense steeple]

we had two good seasons and then tettles nerfed our reputation

now the only people playing boomkin are m+ fotm idiots, or the boomy loyalists

[lofty depot]

tettles didnt nerf the rep

[dense steeple]

either can be attritbuted to tettles

[delicate perch]

all twitter users deserve hate tbh bring back equaility

[lucid olive]

which one are u

[delicate perch]

he's a combo, a boomy idiot

[lofty depot]

all the fotm boomkins trolling their raid and getting stunned or dying on like KT while doing dps saying "i was in my cds casting idk why die"

ruined the rep

[tiny tendon]

boomy loyalist idiots*

[dense steeple]

boomy loyalist idiot**

get it right

[delicate perch]

you're not even loyal you have like 10 paladins

traitor

[tiny tendon]

bait your raid team into not making you do soul hunter debuff thing by mentioning your starfire cast time

[dense steeple]

the paladins make good farm toons

and its literally a 2 button rotation

giga burst + 2 buttons = perfect for running legacy content

[delicate perch]

ur gunna lose your mind when you learn about convoke

[safe egret]

idk who tettles is but okay gotcha. i'm brand new and just liked all the stars and sun/moon thematics and effects

[delicate perch]

[safe egret]

okay so i did the sims and got all the stuff to craft. i just mention in the top right notes to make it 720? what if they dont?

[dense steeple]

2min cd then long casts with no burst =/= spamming either of the ret buttons

plus

each race gets a unique paladin mount

[shrewd moss]

tettles is why we can't have nice things like buffs

[dense steeple]

and you know im a mount nerd

so, 10 races of paladins = 10 more mounts than you nerds

[safe egret]

he just a well known person or what?

[dense steeple]

take a guess which one tettles is

[safe egret]

the one sitting down

[dense steeple]

you got it

getting cold shouldered live on stream xd

[shrewd moss]

clearly we just need to throw a tantrum like ret pallies and shut down the balance discord, it worked for them lulz

[safe egret]

okay, and really sorry about asking this but it's like all my money so trying to be careful lol. this look fine? and what do people do for commission usually?

[lofty depot]

shoreeeeeeeeeeeee

assuming this is haste masteyr

but u should find a crafter that does it

rather than just sending it

[safe egret]

oh, why?

[drifting nova]

cant wait for you to make wep then go into raid and roll on weps anyway

I'm not salty I swear

[safe egret]

lol

[drifting nova]

[safe egret]

i have a guild i'm doing heroic raids with, havent "needed" anything i dont need

[drifting nova]

pug dh rolled dimensisus bracers

[lofty depot]

oh well send it to guild

[drifting nova]

with crafted 720 already

[lofty depot]

and ask someone to craft

[drifting nova]

I know they cant see but christ

[safe egret]

are those wrists or something?

[drifting nova]

yeah

time-compressed ones

[safe egret]

oh rip. only thing i've gotten from dimensius is the hearthstone. my first toy!

[drifting nova]

dont worry, it'l drop soon

[safe egret]

😮 even mine are better than yours

[drifting nova]

I'd hope so, they are s1 bracers

[safe egret]

my wrists are actually my highest ilevel sans back

which is a bit of a letdown

[drifting nova]

ngl upgrade tiers overlapping

is grief central

that and literally everyone rolls need on everything

[tiny tendon]

well yeah i need transmog?

[safe egret]

should i not upgrade to 6/6 hero?

[hexed sparrow]

Is it surprising that 2x Quick Onyx sims higher than 1x + a prismatic gem?

[safe egret]

i stop at 4/8 of champion but havent really gotten hero much

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/seymour-skinner-superintendent-chalmers-steamed-hams-the-simpsons-hit-and-run-gif-11543852214452670723

[tiny tendon]

I'm annoyed at myself for burning two sparks by making the staff, didn't think i'd get fractillus dagger so quickly

[tiny tendon]

just roll higher?

[safe egret]

lol just think of it like that staff helped you get the dagger

[tiny tendon]

mog queen rn

[safe egret]

i like the green moon, looks cool

[drifting nova]

brother thats blue

[tiny tendon]

balance of power artifact weapon bangs

[safe egret]

no the weapon lol

[safe egret]

that is green right?

[signal meteor]

before i completely brick my crests - if i have a 2h agi wep and a 1h in wep, both at 710 ilvl, if i upgrade the 2h all the way to 723, it'll allow me to upgrade the 1h as well correct?

[tawny nest]

Follow up from earlier uhh got home and ran sim again and all the best gear is looking more like what I was expecting. Maybe ran sim wrong but I usually just leave the default settings. Did get 2 myth pieces yesterday so dunno if that massively changed how the sim was weighing everything. thanks tho

[lofty depot]

generally speaking no

it wastes gilded when u can loot myth items that start higher

u can upgrade any hero item taht starts at 3/6

and be done with runed gearing up if done properly

[safe egret]

i dont understand the second half. what

i get not wasting gilded, sure. no idea about the rest

[lofty depot]

well u only have a certain amount of runed crests as well currently

so if u got gear from only 10s which start at 3/6 hero

[tiny tendon]

if you can farm the hero slot from M+, get it from M+ and upgrade the actual items you want for just valorstones

[lofty depot]

u can get every slot to 704 with the current maxed runed u can get

if u upgrade stuff from 1/6 to 4/6

ull be using a lot of it

[safe egret]

oh i see

i've done a +8, how different is 10?

[tiny tendon]

the only things I'd take to 710 personally are tier slots and trinkets

10s force tyrannical and fortified into every key

[safe egret]

gotcha

[lofty depot]

again, they start at 3/6

[drifting nova]

whats the 3rd achi level

[lofty depot]

guys were back

[drifting nova]

is cosmic damage everything

in the game

[lofty depot]

its like arcane and void?

[drifting nova]

oh, got the ring is all

[lofty depot]

i lied

arcane, holy, shadow, nature

[loud kettle]

so back

[drifting nova]

so..everything?

[lofty depot]

says that too

m

[drifting nova]

ok but where cosmic

[lofty depot]

well i said it

[drifting nova]

so is good

is bad

[lofty depot]

idk

[drifting nova]

so it's a magic shield

but not..elemental

so half useless for priory

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/X4E7.gif

[tiny tendon]

bro I did trees before CA on my second set this doesn't deserve orange

[lofty depot]

skill issue

[velvet lagoon]

Hey all, im just looking at my 5 min dummy where i just cast wrath and starfire and there is no starsurge damage - the 4 set isn't working at all

[lofty depot]

hmm

[tiny tendon]

can't wait to be able to get rid of disc fully

awarding general chat with lizard

[lofty depot]

huh

[velvet lagoon]

the 4 set is not proccing starsurges

[lofty depot]

why r u doing funny things

[tiny tendon]

because i'm being funny

[lofty depot]

are u astral power capped

[lofty depot]

ok

sending cds not on amp

tragic really

also u said u did it before ca

and thats just a lie

funny guy

[tiny tendon]

it was the 2 min one

are you looking at last week

[lofty depot]

what

[tiny tendon]

what log

[lofty depot]

wheres ur kill

why not posted

are we private logging during raid

then posting log after

the fuck

[tiny tendon]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wp3GFJXHQtVcLYd4?fight=4&view=rankings of course not

we aren't fucking cringe

[lofty depot]

oh u mena plexus

i cba

[tiny tendon]

yaaaa

[lofty depot]

who cares

[tiny tendon]

fuck plexus

what fight were you peeking at

[vital hound]

plexus is a great boss

[tiny tendon]

loomi'thar?

[lofty depot]

i mean

[vital hound]

but who cares

[lofty depot]

idk why ur doing the trees thing on plexus

[tribal vale]

is there anyhthing op we could get from fireland timewalking

[lofty depot]

sim it

no clue

[vital hound]

arctic rn

[vital hound]

[lofty depot]

moon why are we doing wrong htings

[lofty depot]

no u said trees before ca

so i assumed u meant u were doing araz

[vital hound]

[lofty depot]

guy doing some crazy shit

[delicate perch]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[tiny tendon]

[vital hound]

60fps gif

holy bandwidth batman

[delicate perch]

isn't nz net good

[vital hound]

ye fast asf

[delicate perch]

surely better than aus (insanely low bar)

[vital hound]

worried about the yanks

[vital hound]

[lofty depot]

bro wasting all the globals

idk what were doing

[vital hound]

throwing a couple of wraths in there

[delicate perch]

our best

[vital hound]

is why people shouldnt be allowed to read dg

without passing a test

i guarantee bro is tryna squeeze in 2x surge before trees before realising he's already pressed it

[delicate perch]

does NA get a pass because of their education

kinda unfair to em

[lofty depot]

wasting boat on wraths

shits brazy

[vital hound]

or lack thereof

[delicate perch]

[tiny tendon]

just crit natty

[lucid olive]

damn thats barely a raft then

[lofty depot]

so true

[craggy sonnet]

hold uP!

have you sent this already?

[lofty depot]

only missing 20% from it

[craggy sonnet]

just reading up on the convo

[lofty depot]

dont worry

[safe egret]

no, why

[craggy sonnet]

you do not do these via public order

if you do any idiot can come and claim it

and craft at whack ilvl

[safe egret]

i did ask about that lol

[craggy sonnet]

so you either have someone in your guild / friend group

[lucid olive]

or find someone in trade chat

assuming youre on a server that isnt dead

[craggy sonnet]

and can send it via guild order / private order to them

[safe egret]

how is trade chat better than public?

[craggy sonnet]

or you find someone in trade channel (you just write LF craft [itemlink] 720)

and then you can specifiy rank 5 in a private order

thats the big trick

[stuck quartz]

im convinced boomy will never get buffed

[safe egret]

oh i see, private orders can force them to be max ilevel

[craggy sonnet]

there is a dropdown

yes

[delicate perch]

it's getting buffed. 3% starsurge buff in 6 weeks

[lucid olive]

also using trade chat means you get to talk to people

[delicate perch]

that's a con

"LF craft"

[safe egret]

but that also means i have to turn on trade chat and get flashbang spammed

[delicate perch]

https://tenor.com/view/seagull-pixar-seagulls-ocean-gif-996698667031947568

[tiny tendon]

alright we go read DG compendium I hear ya

[lucid olive]

and talking to people is kinda the point in this massive multiplayer online role playing game!!

[tiny tendon]

might be very difficult to read as a balance main but we'll get there!!

[safe egret]

to be fair i am talking to yall lol

[tiny tendon]

(i've been too silly tbh)

[lucid olive]

just type /2 (or whatever trade chat is) LF CRAFTER [LINK TO ITEM] 720

youre gonna get macro messages from like 3 people within a minute

unless its a dead realm

and theyre gonna tell you the commission they want

then you choose the cheapest

[safe egret]

i'm in grizzly hills, idk if it's a dead realm

[sand rain]

Did they really just sent a MoP Boomkin buff

[wild dune]

yes

[sand rain]

Aint no way

[wild dune]

check back in 4-5 weeks for .5 patch notes

[dense steeple]

TRY WITHIN 5 SECONDS

[craggy sonnet]

you mean get pre-written responses people sent by pressing a button that lights up

[drifting nova]

funny joke

[delicate perch]

gamz self reporting himself for being on a dead realm

[dense steeple]

[lucid olive]

I have guild I haven't used trade chat since aberrus

[delicate perch]

I did my pally crafts last night and had 13 whispers for the first one almost made me log off

[tiny tendon]

damn that's crazy

i get to put that on too

[tiny tendon]

i had MMJ on until about 10 seconds ago

[dense steeple]

yeah antenna replaced my mugz

still in my bags

[grand radish]

What should we change about our keeper ST opener without Nature's Balance? for Forgeweaver

So cant double starsurge after popping CA

Do we just skip that and go straight into trees and voke?

[lucid olive]

Build some AP before sending

[obsidian jetty]

can get around 46-70ap before CA, or just press surge wrath tree instead of surge surge

[lucid olive]

For Forge you can hold the first CA a bit so your 2nd dryads favor procs when the adds spawn

[grand radish]

gotcha, ty

Are those adds worth fully moonfiring on mythic? Or do they die too fast

[lucid olive]

Depends on your guild I guess

I just Sunfire them

[grand radish]

yeah thats what i was feelin

Last question

Looks like on rrgs that the top parsing boomkins are sitting on their second convoke for nearly 2 whole minutes past cd

Is it really that worth to send it into the dps phase?

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/druid-balance/forgeweaver-araz?difficulty=mythic

[lofty depot]

just sunfire

no point

[lofty depot]

its for the amp

u can do what some giga gamers do and sent 1 naked ca at 320 ish for collectors

then have get 4 buffed surges into the damage amp

[tiny tendon]

love that for us

[cedar leaf]

got baited by mop buffs

air punching rn

[lofty depot]

[craggy sonnet]

its a 100% amp .. so its basically like sending two convokes

[lofty depot]

yea but what if those 2 convokes only proc 1 surge

poopy

[craggy sonnet]

where barkskin

[tiny tendon]

CD

[lofty depot]

yea just react

bear form

[tiny tendon]

[craggy sonnet]

noob

[dense steeple]

whats the command for stopcast

[craggy sonnet]

/stopcasting ?

[tiny tendon]

it was the kill pull

[lofty depot]

tragic u linked the name of it with mop

[tiny tendon]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/378426 no it's real

[grand radish]

even near end of fight when they goin crazy?

[tiny tendon]

the void orbs for araz?

tbh if you're even having to look at them the fight's going on too long

[craggy sonnet]

well, you are starfalling most of the phase

what else you wanna do

moonfire is just gonna cost you too many gcds

wont increase your dmg on them

[lofty depot]

what u mean

[dense steeple]

@lofty depot

[lofty depot]

what

[dense steeple]

why this no work

[lofty depot]

u just CC them and kill boss

[tiny tendon]

/stopcasting

[lofty depot]

^^

also maybe just dont

[dense steeple]

okay then followup question, why does this one work

[tiny tendon]

Solar Beam already stops your active cast

naturally

(every kick does)

[misty glade]

Yeah beam already stops

[dense steeple]

damn how long it been doin that

ive had this fuckin macro since the day solarbeam came out

[misty glade]

A while 😬

[tiny tendon]

yall ever just get the +80k simdps craft done in the middle of your break timer

[grand radish]

so on mythic in this fight we just sunfire adds and then continue pure ST?

[tiny tendon]

i'm fucking washed man

[grand radish]

we dont press starfall at all? just starfire and dump into surge?

[tiny tendon]

fit

starfall is fine if you want numbers but those might be adds WCL eventually removes from their parsing if it ever gets the OAB add treatment (cannot confirm)

[lofty depot]

i mean in heroic u dont do shit to the adds either

but i starfall between the boss and echo

during prog i was sending surges during trees timings

also u can trees at the start or in the middle of double add sets

[tiny tendon]

i keep finding bleedout deaths tonight man

maybe i'm actually washed

[lofty depot]

FIT = fuggn idiot transmog

[lofty depot]

dont starfire

solar always

[safe egret]

can anyone explain new moon half moon and full moon? i see they call down minor moons etc but i dont even see them in my talents (except some make them do more damage?) or skills or anything

[dense steeple]

my man cant read

[tiny tendon]

true

[dense steeple]

be nice to him

[grand radish]

thanks for all the help king

[lofty depot]

its 1 spell called new moon

its with fury of elune

and u dont play it

[grand radish]

out of curisoity why is it not worth going into lunar and starfiring when adds are stacked on boss?

is it because we are in lunar for too long after they are dead

[tiny tendon]

yeah

[dense steeple]

ARCTIC WHATS YOUR OPENER

caps lock

[noble spindle]

Melee blender

[tiny tendon]

locking yourself to lunar for 15 seconds when the adds die in 5

[lofty depot]

1. cuz u have no fuckign haste
2. the adds die faster than that eclipse lasts and shits cringe
3. wrath to boss for bos sdam

[noble spindle]

Not even worth starfalling

[lofty depot]

what part

[dense steeple]

first casts

on araz

[lofty depot]

i starfall but im generally standing in range of echo

[safe egret]

ohhh. so ignore the new moon stuff with everything and just read the fury of elune parts. okay got it

[lofty depot]

wrath starfire starfire

start at 3

[noble spindle]

Ur raid doesnt zug zug?

[lofty depot]

what mean

[lofty depot]

yea u dont run new moon so u deal with the foe stuff

EC uses foe

keeper uses neither

[safe egret]

i like EC way more than keeper

but yeah gotcha

[lofty depot]

yucky

[tiny tendon]

what's the vibe on popping warrior of elune during pull timer for the CD to start counting down

[safe egret]

why yucky 🙁

the trees look dumb

and i hate convoke

[lofty depot]

for soul hunter or

u then waste dreamstate stacks

[tiny tendon]

ya

mmkay

[gleaming mulch]

are we starfalling all 3 collectors on araz?

[dense steeple]

hell yea brother

[gleaming mulch]

ty

[safe egret]

dumb unrelated question, how do i accept crafting orders? i'm not seeing it on the npc where i place them

[delicate perch]

go to the profession one

[safe egret]

my profession trainer (?) or

[dense steeple]

the profession table

[delicate perch]

like the alchemy table etc

[lofty depot]

some of us are

if ur assign to just 2 u can as well

but ye

[delicate perch]

whatever profession you are using tto craft said item

[dense steeple]

imagine not getting told to hit 3

[safe egret]

oh okay, gotcha

sorry, thanks

[gleaming mulch]

got it, ty

[cloud plover]

why do people want boomie buffs again? its top dps on our fractillus kill

[drifting nova]

did that ret misplace his face?

[stone terrace]

generally speaking. is 26k haste to much in aoe?

[drifting nova]

whats that in %

[cloud plover]

like 28% i think

[stone terrace]

38% in moonkin form

[cloud plover]

ok close

missed the base

[stone terrace]

lol

[drifting nova]

you want to do damage right

so you want to cast faster

more casts more damage

[stone terrace]

more stats more dmg

but also my verse is 2.42% unbuffed. so it seems pretty low

[sudden pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/135842872418107392/1131838478263517214/ezgif-4-6e8e986715-1-1.gif

[stone terrace]

mastery is in a decent spot i think. at 21.7k

[drifting nova]

who uses flat numbers wtf

it literally displays IN PERCENT

[stone terrace]

its better than %

[drifting nova]

so so so so so so so so so wrong

[stone terrace]

esp for druid where you might be in the wrong form

[drifting nova]

solution

be in the right form

??

[stone terrace]

i am

[drifting nova]

do you work at blizzard

[stone terrace]

no

[drifting nova]

..are you sure

[stone terrace]

pretty sure. my job makes them look like a nice place to work

[drifting nova]

thats blizzard pr right there

[lofty depot]

if they buff boomie im op

[normal pilot]

too many ppl with orange logs to buff boomie

[cloud plover]

yea thats the issue

smh

[vast jewel]

Chance for blizzard to announce post rwf class tuning tomorrow?

[exotic perch]

tmr is very likely

with boss nerfs

[lofty depot]

very likely

hm

[wild dune]

3% aura

[paper ember]

Now show the part where your 98 parse is the same dps as that arcane mages 63 parse

[cloud plover]

well considering the balance was literally top dps

and the others were behind

I'd say it's not the same dps

is it gonna be somewhere close? yes

[dense steeple]

Patchwork turret enjoyer benefits from patchwork fight. Surprise

How do you guys like my pc tho

[paper ember]

Im just making ajoke about how balance top parses are most other classes 70-80 parses lol

[simple canyon]

how does dreamsurge work when you use trees right at the end of a wrath cast? usually the wrath right before the trees doesnt trigger it, but on araz some of my wraths were.

[lofty depot]

dreamsurge gets triggered on wrath hit

[simple canyon]

it doesnt on the dummy. if i cast wrath and trees right after it doesnt proc it

even though the wrath hasnt hit

[lofty depot]

thinking

[simple canyon]

it was really nice on araz when it did because it was instant burst on adds but it was inconcsistent

[lofty depot]

the burst does damage when wrath hits

[simple canyon]

ok, just seems like there is some weird interaction where sometimes the wrath right before trees procs it and sometimes it wont

[normal pilot]

it's determined on cast, or supposed to be anywyas