cloud citrus
it just means mythic level 6
#balance
lavish hearth
Your first vault item will be Myth track, second vault item would be hero track
devout hazel
thats the icon for gathering moonlight or whatever its called im pre sure
limpid osprey
still no changes we're dead to them arent we
dire osprey
im so excited for tomorrows buffs
devout hazel
rr warlock
limpid osprey
lmao comedy
lofty depot
Can't buff druid I got loot again last night
cedar seal
Is it worth it to spend 60 gilded on wrist for double embell already? or should i rather upgrade my Myth Antenna / Myth Tierset Track Items?
devout hazel
Is it worth it to spend 60 gilded on wrist for double embell already? or should ...
use the 704 free one from blueberry kill
lofty depot
Yes
devout hazel
i used gilded on mine because i'm not raiding this tier B)
smoky remnant
Friends on mythic araz can we fit both convoke and big surges in thr damage amp? If not we send convoke before damage amp to fit surges or nah?
past whale
i guess the first intermission after you blow up the pillars
lofty depot
Ok
Soooo there's 2 ways to do it. But for first amp u can send your first CA during intermission at the end with collectors
smoky remnant
Soooo there's 2 ways to do it. But for first amp u can send your first CA during...
During pillars?
Nah we stop dps at our pillar
lofty depot
U can move around
Ok so if u don't want to send on pillars(it's better for later amp), u would then do a different sequence during amp
2nd amp is cooked
It's like 5s, it's crazy annoying
I didn't get those buffed surges into amp
Maybe need to not dump surges before convoke, but u can get unlucky
So idk
But yea, sending the CA in intermission is better for 2nd amp timing
round field
Delete this degenerate 4p
lofty depot
No
smoky remnant
💀
lofty depot
💀
If u look at lorrgs, u can see people not getting 2 cas for said 2nd amp
Granted I barely didn't get it
But there's a bunch of kills that are earlier than that 2nd use
keen geyser
Hi, I'm new to raiding as balance (and dps in general) and my damage seems to be wayyyy lower than it should be but I can't figure out why myself. Would anyone be willing to look at a log for me and help explain what I'm doing wrong?
lofty depot
Post it
smoky remnant
Hi, I'm new to raiding as balance (and dps in general) and my damage seems to be...
send it
keen geyser
lofty depot
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a3FRMVZW8CbQ2Trc?fight=24&source=3&type=sum...
R u m+er
jaunty blaze
the logger was on the other platform
lofty depot
And or mainly do m+ and only heroic raid
jaunty blaze
your platform is missing
keen geyser
And or mainly do m+ and only heroic raid
I also do m+ as resto but I was asked to play balance this season in raid
lofty depot
Ok, then suppose staff is fine
smoky remnant
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a3FRMVZW8CbQ2Trc?fight=24&source=3&type=sum...
From the getgo i see 85% active time on fractilus, need to optimize movement
Try to always be above 80 astral power to dump when moving
Rings missing enchants
neck missing gems
and rings
Also with 4 set we changed our opener from last season, check dreamgrove
lofty depot
From the getgo i see 85% active time on fractilus, need to optimize movement
Tr...
This seems mostly like a p2 problem
Lots of gaps there
One of ur big problems is ur lack of on use trinket
But for the most part, rotationally looks fine
There's like this where u trees at the end of eclipse
But most of it is uptime related late into the fight
keen geyser
Rings missing enchants
I don't understand what ring enchants or gems to use, the compendium website said to sim it but I don't understand how to do that
keen geyser
There's like this where u trees at the end of eclipse
So you should go into eclipse and then trees?
jaunty blaze
you dont know how to sim in general or how to sim enchants/gems?
keen geyser
The enchants/gems
lofty depot
So you should go into eclipse and then trees?
Yes
More uptime on trees during when ur dumping surges
jaunty blaze
lofty depot
U can get 4-5 surges
jaunty blaze
do a topgear sim
smoky remnant
jaunty blaze
choose these options
smoky remnant
Delete haste, don't need it
u say that but robot says to use haste mastery ring instead of dawnbreaker one
jaunty blaze
(i got hoa neck)
lofty depot
u say that but robot says to use haste mastery ring instead of dawnbreaker one
Link sim
Also, idk what dawnbreaker ring is
jaunty blaze
crit haste?
lofty depot
Clearly both wrong rings
Priory > and w.e. it is tazavesh?
Crit mastery ring form raid good
smoky remnant
yeah i did a resim cause i catalysted off piece head and got mythic pants last night
resimming now
lofty depot
If ur next message isn't a link to the sim
keen geyser
choose these options
do i do the same thing with the gems?
keen geyser
should I only pick specific ones or do i just pick them all
jaunty blaze
depends if you dont have premium you wont be able to sim a lot of options
idk what the baseline maximum iterations is
keen geyser
i can pick 13
glacial lion
Yo is there a bug with boomy in m+? fell so powerless. played yesterday and pumped but today im kinda washed
lofty depot
Did u do a 4
glacial lion
now a 10. but in 12, 13 the same idk
round field
Ur just washed now
glacial lion
maiden pasture
The answer is no there's no new bug
lofty depot
now a 10. but in 12, 13 the same idk
Post log
fathom nebula
I did a 14 with two random DPS and i didnt dominate them in the meters, we are definitely nerfed
keen geyser
I think I did the sim correctly, thank you all for the help btw it was very useful
lofty depot
I took it from ur droptimizer big dawg
lofty depot
Can also click the 3 dots on a line and copy that string of gear
Then use it into quick sim or top gear depending on what u want to do
craggy sonnet
Maybe need to not dump surges before convoke, but u can get unlucky
I think the play is to CA like 2-3s before amp starts, dump the surges, get the convoke into amp and then the buffed surges
lofty depot
The 2nd buffed surges, yea prob
The problem is concoke cast is still that long
So u would have to trees CA surge surge, convoke with like 2s before amp ca surge surge
And hopefully get it in it
And maybe trinket with that 2nd ca
Need to kill someone in that 2nd intermission
Need more time
Gonna pay my priest to grip someone thru center
craggy sonnet
And maybe trinket with that 2nd ca
Wdym?
lofty depot
30k int dawg
craggy sonnet
You wanna trinket the cap on first CA buffed surges
craggy sonnet
Increase cap my brother
lofty depot
Yes, that's what I meant
Is trinket for the second ca
It's just another bind I gotta make :/ back to the old ways
craggy sonnet
I don't think it's that big of a deal for the cap if you trinket like 5s earlier with your first CA
Or maybe I'm not understanding
lofty depot
Probably not
Meaning the trinket 5s earlier part
Think it's w.e.
Amp cringe
Delete boss
Why my druid eeler not eeling fellow druid
jade drift
at salhadaar
sand rain
Is the wowhead guide for BiS gear incorrect? If kotg doesn't like haste, why are all the gear Haste/mast
jade drift
sand rain
I know we should be simming, just curious about it
lofty depot
- Bis gear list are troll
- The list isn't just for keeper or ec
normal pilot
'bis' gear guides are always incorrect to some degree
your only mistake is assuming it wouldn't be incorrect
lofty depot
Had a brain blast reading that
normal pilot
can ping tettles to fix it if you want
lofty depot
So many negatives
normal pilot
chance are he prolly doesn't even realize
sand rain
Yeah I figured it was wrong. I was just curious why its set to that and still not updated
normal pilot
wowhead makes ppl make up bis list to hit dealine
lofty depot
I pinged tettles to change something and he still hasnt
normal pilot
so they put it out early and sometimes just don't update
lofty depot
Time to boycott tettles
gentle scroll
But he promised buffs tomorrow
fast parcel
Why my druid eeler not eeling fellow druid
They getting sniped by MW heals first
sand rain
wowhead makes ppl make up bis list to hit dealine
Oh thats interesting
lofty depot
They getting sniped by MW heals first
Yea surely
normal pilot
lot of guide writers don't want to put out those lists but wowhead/IV needs it to generate clicks
gentle scroll
Ultimate click bait, gear tier lists
sand rain
Even without the BiS list, this portion is incorrect, "The stat valuation for both Elune's Chosen and Keeper of the Grove is virtually the same, which means that both largely use the same gear. There are very slight gear differences that you can sim, but the priority for both remains: Mastery > Haste > Critical Strike > Versatility."
normal pilot
rip baited by tettles yet again
craggy sonnet
Meaning the trinket 5s earlier part
Yea if you do like actually double CA and not some collector stuff, buffing the convoke and high boat surges on first CA with trinket seems reasonable.
I'm mostly undecided on the first amp if you trinket end of intermission CA. But I feel it can't be a big gain if at all. So rather not bother
lofty depot
Even without the BiS list, this portion is incorrect, "The stat valuation for bo...
Tbf, stat diffs are only a few % diffs
So virtually is marketable
sand rain
I got a Myth Sin Stained Pendant in my vault waiting, but Idk if I should take it
Either that or cata myth shoulder or hands
lofty depot
Yea if you do like actually double CA and not some collector stuff, buffing the ...
Increase the buff but decrease the convoke dam
I need to look if there's enough time
Should be
craggy sonnet
So virtually is marketable
But explicitly stating a prio makes it factually wrong
sand rain
My dilemma is that I can get the hands and shoulders from raid easy. So should I just take the myth neck in case any tuning changes happens
lofty depot
But explicitly stating a prio makes it factually wrong
Mastery was first so 1/4 isn't bad
sand rain
Plus I can use the neck for M+
craggy sonnet
My dilemma is that I can get the hands and shoulders from raid easy. So should I...
Tier shoulders are kinda meh
What's the base item?
craggy sonnet
Tier shoulders are kinda meh
Well, they are fine for m+
craggy sonnet
Yea but who cares about m+
Soul hunters
smoky remnant
bro i need to sim every single stat iteration on every single crafted item to craft an item with third spark vs upgrading my tier set and virtually cannot be asked
lofty depot
Soul hunters
Trueeeeeeeee
craggy sonnet
Seems like you gotta set a priority.
Shoulders you can get again from raid but they are very good (non catalyzed) for raid.
Neck is very good for m+ but won't do anything for you in raid
lofty depot
Uhh, what sim say
craggy sonnet
And you could ultimately go and craft a neck for m+ for example
sand rain
Seems like you gotta set a priority.
Shoulders you can get again from raid but t...
My thinking is that I can get both hands and shoulders from first 3 bosses in raid. So I'm not too worried about tier pieces
sand rain
Uhh, what sim say
Resimming rn
craggy sonnet
My thinking is that I can get both hands and shoulders from first 3 bosses in ra...
Sure but do you want to help kill bosses now or?
sand rain
Neck is 35,482 upgrade
Shoulders are 45,313 upgrade
Hands are 46,683 upgrade
craggy sonnet
Bruuh
Farm the floodgate neck 🙂
Or at least sim it against a hero floodgate neck
You will see it's not competitive to the other options
sand rain
I got the priory one, but 1 second ill sim that
cedar leaf
no clear winner in this vault tbh, i'd get shoulders for click saves and bis offpiece imo
neck can be farmed / crafted
lofty depot
My thinking is that I can get both hands and shoulders from first 3 bosses in ra...
Does ur guild use wowaudit
Can look to see what others are close to and see if u would win it
proud sail
how do i sim my druid ?
jaunty blaze
lofty depot
There's an FAQ in the compendium
proud sail
cheers man
lofty depot
Yeet
cedar leaf
id say based on those few words, I wouldnt worry about sims
proud sail
cant find patchwreck and targetss and time
cedar leaf
lofty depot
jaunty blaze
Thank you naguura
cedar leaf
maiden pasture
🎨
cedar leaf
cedar leaf
🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️ 
🕯️ 🕯️ 🕯️
normal pilot
wdym they already did a tuning pass like 2 weeks ago
pseudo pawn
I've already given up
proud sail
i know how to sim bro but i ment how many targets to simc or time
nova ocean
Tomorrow for sure guys
lofty depot
i know how to sim bro but i ment how many targets to simc or time
well we dont do a 5t funny sim for m+, which is stated in the faq i told u to read
cedar leaf
cant find patchwreck and targetss and time
sorry I couldn't decipher what you meant
bro
upper anvil
well we dont do a 5t funny sim for m+, which is stated in the faq i told u to re...
So i should sim 5t funny sim 🤔
jaunty blaze
Instructions unclear will sim 5t5m
jaunty blaze
Poggies
jaunty blaze
Complain is very important
jaunty blaze
Who
upper anvil
well theres the arguement point of a class not being played due to poor opti or tuning and you buff a bad class so its playable again no?
jaunty blaze
But they dont buff based on being a polular spec either apparently
cedar leaf
🕯️ Buff our Wraths, let Starsurge shine,
🕯️ So logs may glow in charts divine.
🕯️ Change this KOTG tier, we plea,
🕯️ No more RNG catastrophe!
upper anvil
if theres 10 specs/classes and 5 are just bad and most people play the upper 5, buff the lwoer 5 no?
is that not how tuning also works
as shown in each season of an expac
upper anvil
like fire mage was rather strong in season 2 of dragonflight now theyre very not as strong
round field
thats fine
upper anvil
while arcane mage wasnt a thing
round field
they have 2 other specs
jaunty blaze
Fire mage is still there
cedar leaf
fire still slaps
jaunty blaze
And probably better than boomie
jaunty blaze
Why do i even say probably
upper anvil
the bar is very low
cedar leaf
last time I was happy was padding hyenas on stix
torn trout
hasty karma
question on st kotg opener - after the first ca, the rule is to do exactly two surges before trees into convoke. why exactly two and not three to max starlord?
jaunty blaze
Its 2 gcds not necessarily 2 surges
lofty depot
2 gcds
gentle scroll
its about timing
craggy sonnet
they are all sitting on the bench wcyd
jaunty blaze
Lets go
gentle scroll
cedar leaf
hasty karma
its about timing
timing for what specifically? why is it 2 gcds exactly?
explain it like i parse a 5 lmao (trying not to)
lucid olive
3% starfire damage
Wtf I told you that confidentially
hasty karma
ca lasts 12 seconds, trees last 10
on opener, since we are cutting the first ca short to get the second ca started for dryad surges, does it make sense then to hit the third gcd? but not for later in fights?
craggy sonnet
even if you single CA, you want your trees to cover the buffed surges
pallid bay
Wtf I told you that confidentially
lofty depot
on opener, since we are cutting the first ca short to get the second ca started ...
there is also like damage in ca like wrath in ca does more.
so just maximizing time in ca
even if ur clipping it
hasty karma
right, that makes sense. but if i am hitting trees 1gcd later and getting a surge in 3rd instead, trees would still cover the two dryad at the end
craggy sonnet
and you want to have sent the 2 surges before CA runs out
yes
you can do 3x surge into trees
but why would you not 2x surge trees surge
(doesnt matter much either way)
hasty karma
ah so it seems this way we are trying to get both the third surge into starlord to benefit from trees as well as the dryad surges at the end of ca
jaunty blaze
Starlord is irrelevant in the opener
jaunty blaze
Forget about starlord during double ca
lofty depot
starlord relevant when i end ca and have to then cancelaura slam surely
hasty karma
do you know your starlord state at 2/4?
my starlords pretty much always line up with eclipse or i cancel the last few seconds as needed, but usually that's only right after opener and the rest of the fight it's in line
lofty depot
dam she canceling
hasty karma
i will forget about starlord during double ca opener though, ty
craggy sonnet
but you do not align CA with end of eclipse
eclipse state doesnt matter to enter CA
(for kotg st)
hasty karma
do we not sit for a couple seconds to finish a previous eclipse and refresh dots if needed? i hit ca mid-fight instead of the double starfire given control of the dream
why would i slam it mid-existing eclipse? is there a benefit to that vs waiting until the current one is done?
(not being a smartass, truly asking)
craggy sonnet
well, you are wasting cd on something most likely
either trees
or convoke
but definitely trinket
so that then means you are delaying your next set of cds
hasty karma
control of the dream doesn't make the cd wasted, does it?
craggy sonnet
to some extent that is true
lofty depot
If u wait longer than 15 seconds it does
hasty karma
yeah i would never wait longer than 15
craggy sonnet
on what
lofty depot
Yea never
hasty karma
i would wait like the 5 seconds to finish out the existing eclipse
lofty depot
(Araz)
craggy sonnet
you already have to wait for everything to be ready
hasty karma
refresh a sunfire and then slam it
lofty depot
But yea ur waiting on trinket
craggy sonnet
what comes up first? how much earlier is that than what comes up last
lofty depot
Usually
craggy sonnet
and ofc you can refresh sunfire n stuff
but there is no reason to wait out the current eclipse
digital berry
I usually refresh sunfire before a double ca set even if it’s at like 15 seconds just for peace of mind
lucid olive
Cancelaura Dryad to get 4pc early, cancelaura CA to get Dreamstate before slamming 2nd CA, cancelaura treants cause fuck em, cancelaura Starlord for big vibe
Cancelaura Ebon Might and Prescience cause fight back the oppressors
sonic crag
lucid olive
/cast Starfall
/abandon
normal pilot
hm can you cancelaura sundered so you don't get the AP
lofty depot
Hmm cancelaura asp 10
sonic crag
/cancelaura Mark of the Wild
/cast Mark of the Wild
lucid olive
hm can you cancelaura sundered so you don't get the AP
Man that's an idea
Generating AP is bad but FoE is good
Can you cancelaura the AP buff from FoE too
Just slam that cancelaura in Starfire so you're perma cancelling it from all the FoE procs
sinful surge
Can you cancel aura eclipse?
lucid olive
No
lofty depot
Cancel.aura the asp gen from Starfire is far better
sinful surge
Damn
lofty depot
Spam cast Starfire yeyee
lucid olive
Less AP gen is more Starfire casts
sinful surge
Would be nice if you could cuz sometimes its time to slam CA and im in eclipse so no ds :<
normal pilot
shoudl be able to cancel foe too
frank grotto
is mug jug simming incorrectly? some officer telling me to use parappodia over 684 mug jug even tho sims lower
maiden pasture
Mug jug good on both
frank grotto
thanks 😄
tawny cloud
hey, when and what should i swap jasters diamond for? it seems like whatever i sim, it just keeps the jaster and replace whatever rings i sim
lofty depot
Change when something Sims within margin
lucid olive
sell jastor to vendor
lofty depot
Stam + jastors bugs
jaunty blaze
free yourself dont trust big sim
lucid olive
shoudl be able to cancel foe too
doesn't have a buff in buff bar
normal pilot
oh sad
lucid olive
guess the AP gen is just tied to the ability as a debuff on the mob or something
Firmament you can though
normal pilot
no there's a buff for the AP maybe they just hide it
lucid olive
is it just called fury of elune
normal pilot
ya
tawny cloud
yeah okay, ill keep looking at it
lucid olive
lol yeah
rancid sonnet
Stam + jastors bugs
hold on jastors doesn't sim properly?
lucid olive
/cancelaura fury of elune works
alright time to sim this in EC single target build
night gulch
ya
yo random question, whats the script for sims for damage amps if you happen to know
lofty depot
hold on jastors doesn't sim properly?
That's not what I said
I said it bugs
Meaning on live it's worse than in sim because the buff can have bad uptime
normal pilot
er you can check the simc wiki under raid_events
lucid olive
yo random question, whats the script for sims for damage amps if you happen to k...
raid_events+=/vulnerable,cooldown=600,first=258,duration=15,multiplier=0.5
something like that
night gulch
thank you
lucid olive
Now if I could add a hold for amp condition
you can
just make APL send CDs on the same timer
normal pilot
it's never too late to learn
rancid sonnet
Meaning on live it's worse than in sim because the buff can have bad uptime
okay ty. what does it mean when something sims within margin? does that mean something that sims close to what jastors sims?
lucid olive
,if=time=258
crude void
How do you play with boomkin on Soulbinde without wanting to unalive urself?
daring gull
close your eyes and listen to baby shark on double speed
lofty depot
okay ty. what does it mean when something sims within margin? does that mean som...
When it's like 0.1% diffy
normal pilot
you can check how long until an upcoming raid_event too
lofty depot
When the sim turns blue and like 0.2
lofty depot
How do you play with boomkin on Soulbinde without wanting to unalive urself?
Remember that there's cringe people trying to only AOE that fight
rancid sonnet
ohhhh okay ty
lucid olive
@normal pilot gg..
crude void
Remember that there's cringe people trying to only AOE that fight
I mean I see the best logs on elune but I assume those are padlogs
lofty depot
There's some with keeper
daring gull
if you're not padding you're not gaming
night gulch
raid_events+=/vulnerable,cooldown=600,first=258,duration=15,multiplier=0.5
so to sim the actual damage amps i'd have to mess with the apl right, there isn't a way for me to do it though the expert mode, unless I'm just missing something in the wiki
lucid olive
banger rotation
crude void
if you're not padding you're not gaming
You can only pad if the raid lets you pad
lucid olive
so to sim the actual damage amps i'd have to mess with the apl right, there isn'...
you can add raid events in footer in expert mode, but if you want the sim to hold certain cooldowns for timers youd have to change the APL
night gulch
Thank you, I knew I was missing something
dry sonnet
any info why dwilkz used mugzee yesterday on mugzee mythic kekw is it better then the new trinket options ?
night gulch
he has the secret sauce surely
lofty depot
Should sim ur gear
dry sonnet
yee
wet cloud
Frost Mage has joined the sandbagging, we pushing AUG TO THE TOP BOYS
lofty depot
U just equipped a trinket cuz it was higher ilvl?
lofty depot
Frost Mage has joined the sandbagging, we pushing AUG TO THE TOP BOYS
Frostmage got nerfed
rancid sonnet
boomy buffs when
lofty depot
Tomorrow for sure
lucid olive
fading oak
was not expecting to see a Goonies gif here
formal cobalt
is stat priority generally the same for ST and m+?
formal cobalt
hmmmmmm
I feel like I have a lot of BIS pieces but still behind most dps 10-15% in m+ im pretty sure my rotation is fine
lofty depot
Only one way to find out
wary tendon
every day i peek in. hoping to see a little red dot on the pinned icon
lofty depot
Pins are for experts to troll in
fluid sluice
Pins are for experts to troll in
Consider pinning this
tawny nest
Not sure if it’s a question for here but how like accurate or good is raidbots droptimizer for raid drops? Is it mainly for like immediate short term dps increases rather than long term what items youd want to aim for? Because a lot of drops for me is simming higher than the ones I’d expect to be better for me (like soul hunters haste/mast neck being way better than salad mast/crit neck, or dimmy over logic gate omega)
Didnt notice it being a problem last season but this one a lot of my results look weird.
Or am I just running the sim wrong lol
pallid bay
hm can you cancelaura sundered so you don't get the AP
yea
testing EC without respeccing annoying
lofty depot
Not sure if it’s a question for here but how like accurate or good is raidbots d...
Link sim
dry compass
Guild recruitment is so fun
App as boomie > say ive played warlock past 2 tiers and want to play boomie > oh we'd really like your warlock though
Repeat
grand niche
lol
past creek
Wait there are still balance druids
grand niche
I play in a very “play what you want” type guild.
dry compass
I play in a very “play what you want” type guild.
That's my favourite part, when half your guild is green parsing and I'm going to beat them on meters regardless, just let me play what I want lmao
lofty depot
Just don't tell them u play lock
tame dome
dry compass
Balance is good dam and very flexible, aug will outperform in a high skill/coordination group most likely
robust oracle
was i unlucky with crits or did i play bad this pull? i didnt see any mistake myself
robust oracle
oh ye, i forgot that one
lofty depot
lofty depot
Guess we're not wild charging
This crazy
I mean use wildcharge dawg
We found one
Playing potent but didn't 2nd ca
I casted double ur wild charges
All ur cat forms were when u had wildcharge available
U need to prepare for movement better
Idk if these are during the spread or if u got the wall placement/break
void marsh
not balance related but how can i skip the campaign on my alt so i cant get the cloak? i started doing the campaign but a friend of mine told me that i can still skip it and get the cloak in like 2 mins
does anyone know how?
lofty depot
Well it's the literal first quest u accept when entering the portal
Otherwise u have to do the campaign
storm frigate
are there any platers or WA that help you toggle through the masses to make sure you apply moonfire to everything at the start of a fight?
void marsh
theres a plater mod
that i use which i found to be pretty nice and cant play without it
once i use moonfire on a mob, their health bar turns blue, if i use moonfire it gets red and if both dots are applied it turns ou green
green = good
storm frigate
oh i like that
is that Jundie's?
don't know why it's taken me 4 weeks to think to look for something like this
lofty depot
Jundies doesn't do it no
storm frigate
now i just need to find out how to do that
ah sick, i was overly complicating it. i'll test this out now. thanks so much, jeevas!
boreal brook
Cancelaura Dryad to get 4pc early, cancelaura CA to get Dreamstate before slammi...
Are any of these cancel auras worth doing or was it full memeing?
I'm too autistic to tell
lucid olive
Are any of these cancel auras worth doing or was it full memeing?
I'm too auti...
full memeing
lofty depot
Are any of these cancel auras worth doing or was it full memeing?
I'm too auti...
They're not worth it..... Yet
boreal brook
aha, thanks! 🙂
dry compass
full memeing
If we pretend this is the real and optimal way to play boomkin we might get some dev attention
loud kettle
Thats my plan for feral
Step 1 is apex cancelaura
and using thrash despite having a talent that automatically applies thrash
lofty depot
That applies we get anything meaningful in gameplay changes with apex talents
The 4p is the first one in 3 tiers that has changed our play
fading perch
Does boomy need a buff? Whats chat thinking?
lofty depot
Having any hope they cooked a certain play style that wouldn't get absolutely gutted like furor did is crazy
lofty depot
Does boomy need a buff? Whats chat thinking?
St buff ye
normal pilot
every spec needs a buff
fading perch
im timing keys working on 14s and 15s currently and it seems my single target is absolute ass and my uncapped aoe is decent but others still beat me often.
void marsh
ah sick, i was overly complicating it. i'll test this out now. thanks so much, ...
np, tell me if you like it!
lofty depot
If ur getting beat in AOE, maybe ur playing bad
fading perch
its for sure possible
lofty depot
U dont.get brought to keys cuz u do boss dam
boreal brook
its for sure possible
Nah, it is your tank's fault for not pulling bigger
fading perch
ive played boomkin for a long time so i think im decent at it but idk seems odd this season
lofty depot
It's no different from last tbf
lofty depot
Maybe ur off
tiny ridge
8 domes 0 items
lofty depot
Post a log
fading perch
i might be
tiny ridge
idk why im playing this game..
fading perch
ok ill have to get one
void marsh
ngl 8 is rookie numbers 🙁
lofty depot
I've gone on 100+ adventures
Shadow moon burial grounds was disgusting waste of my life
dry compass
Thats nokhudly offensive
lofty depot
Did 75 dht for rings and neck
quiet iris
I don't get this sim https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pgZtXR71CBuwa3PhfbPzCf aren't the boots supposed to be really good? why are these pants at same ilvl just as good
lofty depot
Ragefeather was only 45
fading perch
i think i ended a 13 priory 705 ilvl the other day at 7.4m dps overall. Does that sound right? been closer to 8 in some dungeons
quiet iris
guess i have too much haste eh
quiet iris
oh forgot to change it back lol
lofty depot
??
quiet iris
uhhh
wild dune
lofty depot
Why don't u have main stat gem
quiet iris
STOP i was healing okay its fine if u heal
lofty depot
Do u care more about m+ than raid?
lofty depot
STOP i was healing okay its fine if u heal
It's not fine in this channel
wild dune
Healers man
lofty depot
Fuggn eelers
wild dune
Imagine you inspect a mf and he's using enchants from last expansion
hazy zenith
hey guys a question
i trying again balance, in this season
but... I don't think I'm doing it right.
What's the correct rotation?
quiet iris
Kinda confused
see that one I can explain actually i dont have the weekly spark yet and the bracers were simming higher then the old crafted ones 🙂
lofty depot
704 bracers gang
Well it seems odd ur a eeler, with asc no?
Do eelers use it actually?
hazy zenith
Is it... A troll?
hmmm no
quiet iris
lets say im a confused druid that doesn't really know what he is
i make up for it in flfuf
fluff
lofty depot
Well, should figure that out
lapis thistle
is EC or KOG better in ST?
lofty depot
Cuz ur stat prio changes
lapis thistle
or is it indifferent
lofty depot
is EC or KOG better in ST?
Keeper
lapis thistle
thanks king
lofty depot
Yeet
sick laurel
well if you want review on your rotation, they needa log yes, not a raider.io showing you did a+13
lofty depot
Yes
hazy zenith
If I did something wrong,
or if I need to improve, I'll gladly accept 🙂
P.S. They're mostly healers, so sometimes I'd shapeshift into a bear a lot, lol
upper anvil
lofty depot
Every day I see something crazier and crazier
storm frigate
This crazy work
what's it say?
hazy zenith
Every day I see something crazier and crazier
is bad?
sick laurel
its just that you paid 120 crest instead of a staff
lofty depot
storm frigate
oh i think a lot of people make OH and hope to get kris, but get impatient
hazy zenith
Oh right, I started the pull wrong and used Moonfire when the tank was running.
I admit it was my mistake xD
lofty depot
oh i think a lot of people make OH and hope to get kris, but get impatient
Yea that's just dumb
lofty depot
Oh right, I started the pull wrong and used Moonfire when the tank was running.
...
That's not the incorrect part
The incorrect part is likely the 20 other mobs u didn't dot
storm frigate
Yea that's just dumb
hazy zenith
which is it? o.o
upper anvil
You have to moonrise mostly every mob
hazy zenith
ohhh
upper anvil
That'll live longer then like 7 seconds
lofty depot
Then, u used woe when u had dreamstate stacks
Then, u see that funny green button (nature's vigil)
Go ahead and take it off ur bar and macro it to incarn
storm frigate
is it off GCD?
hazy zenith
ohhhh
upper anvil
Yes
lofty depot
hazy zenith
I'm going to mac it, like I said I'm mostly a healer, sorry hehe
lofty depot
2nd incarn, u enter eclipse, u also shouldn't do this
Because again, u waste dreamstate stacks
upper anvil
Because again, u waste dreamstate stacks
You're a dreamstate you know
lofty depot
hazy zenith
Sorry to interrupt.
But... how do you see this in Warcraft Logs?
lofty depot
What's also possible, so I'm not looking at replay so it's a guess, but that pack was very low
And then u are in incarn dotring
upper anvil
Sorry to interrupt.
But... how do you see this in Warcraft Logs?
Timeliness
upper anvil
Timelines*
normal pilot
new build time for buffsnerfs?
wild dune
Don't tease us
wild dune
we got one for ec
upper anvil
But fury actually got damage increase
upper anvil
Ours barely increased our dps
wild dune
well it was a bugfix but still technically a buff xd
upper anvil
Like was watching crit cake and the buffs allowed up to pull 25m on first pull of flood
lofty depot
well it was a bugfix but still technically a buff xd
"we found damage"
upper anvil
Wheres before you wouldn't see fury got up to 25m on their capped damage
wild dune
Let warriors have their time as dps in keys
hazy zenith
I see.
But... when it's a big pull,
I should first use Moonfire and spread it as much as possible, right?
My Guild told me something like that about having two seasons...
but I don't know if they were joking with me or not hehe
wild dune
Been a turbo shit role for them for ages
upper anvil
Been a turbo shit role for them for ages
Not wrong. Blizzard capping their aoe to 5 was rough
lofty depot
Gotta be like -150
hazy zenith
oh
upper anvil
What's the over under on this incarn being at like 50% of pack hp
We're incaring over 50
%?
lofty depot
I incarn at the start of packs
upper anvil
Ideally thats when you do it
upper anvil
But like not at 100% ideally I like at least 70 or 80% and above
hazy zenith
I mean, it's always incarn when a pull starts, never use it even if the pull is at 70%, right?
upper anvil
I think 70% is fine depending on pack size no?
upper anvil
Can't imagine giving up the damage if its a massive pull
hazy zenith
I'm writing down everything I can that they tell me so I can practice.
lofty depot
It just looks like it from the casts
Ur ina pull for like 20-30 seconds then I see an incarn cast
But I can't see it actual cuz replay
upper anvil
Ah nah don't do that unless the pack is like mega not dying
I remember doing a 10 where I cycled foe 6 times in ara on the bridge 💀
This was like week 1 tho
hazy zenith
ohhh
And... regarding the Moonfire dot,
should I apply it to all enemies, right?
Or can I start with Sunfire and apply Moonfire gradually?
Sorry if it's a stupid question 🙁
upper anvil
You sunfire at the end where the pack is fully grouped since it dots everything
Ideally moonfire everything
merry ibex
Moonrise
upper anvil
Auto correct 
merry ibex
Bg3 in here I see
hazy zenith
So, if it's a big pull of 20 adds,
it applies to all Moonfires, right?
I'm asking just to verify 🙂
merry ibex
Tab target to spread Moonfire, Sunfire when the pack is grouped
upper anvil
The sunfire applies to every mob that is grouped. You moonfire every single mob individually
I just use a mouse over dot macro
Tabing sounds annoying if it targets an already dotted mob
hazy zenith
okay 😄
hazy zenith
I just use a mouse over dot macro
Is there a macro for that? o.o
merry ibex
Well not completely individually, it does hit another close target
upper anvil
Ye mouse overs. Im not on my pc currently but you can find one easily
upper anvil
Well not completely individually, it does hit another close target
I mean yeah but thats wastes time when you're dotting
lofty depot
So, if it's a big pull of 20 adds,
it applies to all Moonfires, right?
I'm askin...
If they live longer than 6 seconds (as stated in the prio list) u should be dotting them
merry ibex
I mean yeah but thats wastes time when you're dotting
What wastes time?
upper anvil
20 mobs. If yoy tab to a mob that has it. You'll spend more time then just mouse overing a mob that doesn't have it
quiet iris
Well, should figure that out
ascendence goes for both resto/boomy still so we gucci
lofty depot
O
upper anvil
The tabbing over instead of clicking or mouse overing
lofty depot
704 bracers lock it in
quiet iris
guess ill do a delve for the 2nd spark
merry ibex
Idk about you guys but my monitor isn't 2 feet tall with stacking nameplates to click shit lmao
quiet iris
use vertical monitor
upper anvil
merry ibex
💀
hazy zenith
Let's say I already have the whole pack with Moonfire and Sunfire.
From there I activate my Nature's Vigil + Trinket + Incarn, right?
From there I use Fury + Warrior of Elune + Lunar Strike + Starfall + Lunar Strike + Starfall
And so on, right?
hazy zenith
If they live longer than 6 seconds (as stated in the prio list) u should be dott...
okay 😄
upper anvil
You fury of elune before incaring
lofty depot
Idk about you guys but my monitor isn't 2 feet tall with stacking nameplates to ...
Move ur camera
upper anvil
You only warrior of elune when you don't have dream state stacks
lofty depot
Let's say I already have the whole pack with Moonfire and Sunfire.
From there I ...
Nop, foe incarn Starfall Starfall Starfire Starfire Starfall woe Starfire/Starfall x6
hazy zenith
ohhhh
hazy zenith
foe?
upper anvil
Fury of elune
hazy zenith
I need to learn the terms
ohhhhh
Thanks!
So.
First FOE + Starfall + Incarn + Starfall Starfall Starfire Starfire Starfall woe Starfire/Starfall
right?
hazy zenith
I'll assume that I'll activate Nature's Vigil and Trinket before activating Incarnation xD
upper anvil
You can macro nv and trinkets to incar
lofty depot
U macro it to incarn
hazy zenith
okay
quiet iris
wow the boots are much better on the sim now 🙂 https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/octsfFaLnHFPiAJJp7cbJL
lofty depot
And u stop thinking about said pressed
hazy zenith
okay 😄
upper anvil
You can think about artic when you think about the 2 m trink
hazy zenith
But... one more question.
What's the rotation for single target?
I mean, for one boss.
In M+
upper anvil
Its ok. We all are boomy noobs
lofty depot
"we"
lofty depot
Nahhhhh
hazy zenith
Now I have an equally stupid question again :c
hazy zenith
I started with dots on dummies.
Moonfire x5 (3 casts) and Sunfire.
Foe + Incarn + Starfall
But I didn't have the astral power to cast a second one, so I cast Starfire again and then Starfall.
I guess I did something wrong there.
lofty depot
Every button press is the start of the prio and going down the 10 checks
upper anvil
Look at flat numbers and not %
lofty depot
Someone post the picture
hazy zenith
haste: 24,949
mastery: 19,437
crit: 324
vers: 4787
upper anvil
More mastery over haste is nice
jaunty blaze
tiny ridge
i spent all day in dome for nothing how can i stay morivated to play this game..
lofty depot
Well u continue to beat ur dick in, what's a few more
lofty depot
Yea
upper anvil
Its just rng. Remember you wanted to rng the next 2 vaults
lofty depot
Welcome to grinding
upper anvil
Lol
lofty depot
Not everything in the cookie jar is edible
upper anvil
Do you still want to rng the 2 upcoming vaults
jaunty blaze
NOTHING
tiny ridge
yes
tiny ridge
why when i mouse over somoene is not showing how manyn bosses killed in raid
lofty depot
Why would u need to know that info
pearl linden
What's the best race for balance?
tiny ridge
cuz idk if they see my io or not
lofty depot
What's the best race for balance?
For what content
tiny ridge
i do have the addon
pearl linden
m+ and raid
hasty karma
maybe they don't raid
lofty depot
M+ is nelf, raid is tauren
tiny ridge
it is my own char bro
hasty karma
oh womp
tiny ridge
the addon shows nothing
hasty karma
do you have the raiderio desktop app? maybe open it and refresh the data there?
pearl linden
M+ is nelf, raid is tauren
Nelf just because of meld I presume?
earnest abyss
its in the raider.io addon settings somewhere, i had to turn it on the other day to show raid, i had the same issue as you, not showing raid kills
pearl linden
Ohh is it literally like 1%
lofty depot
Nelf just because of meld I presume?
Good for dodging mechanics, can be uses as offensive as well
tiny ridge
cant find
earnest abyss
scroll down?
lofty depot
Ohh is it literally like 1%
Tauren is like 1% over nelf ye
earnest abyss
might need that
pearl linden
Tauren is like 1% over nelf ye
tyty
vale latch
Is there anywhere that shows all the shadowmeld techs for this season? like mob/boss mechanics you can meld off yourself?
lofty depot
Usually a causee weakaura or at targeted weakaura
lofty depot
Not until gastank says something
warm atlas
No buffs and disc channel still active 🙈
lofty depot
Channel will always be active
We haven't even gone back to talking about lunches yet
We're not even that far down yet
hasty karma
oh man but lunch conversations sound delicious, could we though?
ionic oak
Parsing orange and getting beat by grey parses. Hurts
lofty depot
Yessem
lofty depot
I used to ask for lunch recommendations
ionic oak
For lunch i had water and best ice cubes money can buy
jaunty blaze
holy
lofty depot
Some people in here used to have big gulps and a couple of slim jims
ionic oak
I got it like that
lofty depot
That had to be dark times
ionic oak
Some people in here used to have big gulps and a couple of slim jims
Fucking gamers
ionic oak
The dream
lofty depot
what is that
What ur mom calls me
jaunty blaze
i see
earnest abyss
jaunty blaze
i dont think she knows english that well
exotic perch
Some people in here used to have big gulps and a couple of slim jims
god slim jims suck
a big gulp can hit tho
ebon sail
How are people changing their talents for demon hunter council fight? I'm using the 11.2 ST talent sheet but I'm sure there must be a better one.
fathom nebula
Why are we not running more Starfall over Starfire in Soul Hunters?
I mean im not doing it cause im lazy
ebon sail
How do i export the sheet straight into my talent sheet from wcl
fathom nebula
Click the guy you want
Go to summary
then click on export
Did the steps for you but basically that
lofty depot
Which fight
ionic oak
Hunters
lofty depot
I got sat on loomithar cuz I had trinkey
They then wiped 3 times
Hunters we ain't killing that shit
Gonna skip, optional boss
(I'm gonna farm HOA this weekend for neck)
drifting nova
gl with heart of azeroth 🙂
ionic oak
No wrap boots?
lofty depot
Huh
ionic oak
To me or kekkers?
lofty depot
No ones talking to kekkers
ionic oak
Fuh
drifting nova
No ones talking to kekkers
lofty depot
Sometimes u don't get
drifting nova
you get got
lofty depot
I got like everything else
quiet drift
Why are we not running more Starfall over Starfire in Soul Hunters?
What
royal zenith
jade drift
today
lofty depot
New build was sent today tho
jade drift
New build was sent today tho
dont do that to me
ionic oak
New build was sent today tho
Actually?
jade drift
i will start shaking fr
sick laurel
you know we dont like haste right ?
lofty depot
Starters ur 704, no on use trinket and didn't craft staff
ebon sail
Thanks.
sick laurel
at mods will soon screenshot your crafted haste mastery
lofty depot
Crafting a ring is a choice
Using cursed mastery is a choice
Using those mastery gems is a choice
Yea we don't base our crafting decisions on "other boomies", cuz they're stipid
lofty depot
And likely at the time, they did t know either
fossil shard
you know we dont like haste right ?
ionic oak
Fury of elune and trees
sick laurel
lol
ionic oak
Fuck yeha
lofty depot
- Talent "choices"
fossil shard
Absolute innovator
stone ledge
lofty depot
- On opener u should be moonfiring, the trees are slow
gentle scroll
what a baller
lofty depot
- We don't play incarn we play convoke
ionic oak
We need to chill.
lofty depot
- Foe bad
ionic oak
They are actually asking for input
So i apologize