#balance
quiet drift
clever vigil
this 10% wrath 25% power of goldrinn buff we’re about to get is gonna go crazy 
round field
shut the fuck up
lofty depot
Can't buff goldrinn unless they fix the EC bug
tiny ridge
i wish i had vault like this
lofty depot
U mean useless vaults?
tardy sun
Why? Only 1 Item is good and that was a trinket.
dry compass
One good item better than no good item
tiny ridge
not even a chest,hands,legs,helmet,ring ..
lofty depot
Fuggn ugly rats
tardy sun
Its not even in top 3
lofty depot
That's a feral vault too
tardy sun
I play all 3 specs
lofty depot
Yea "play" all 3 specs.
sudden pawn
tiny ridge
Its not even in top 3
best balance dudu plays with lily 😉
normal pilot
balance isnt' a real spec anywyas
lofty depot
Whoa the best balance dudu
And if u say that little rat shadow priest
We're gonna have issues
normal pilot
it only took 14 years but balance is finally back to being the meme spec
twin lotus
indigo barn
"we fixed the EC tier bug so we gonna wait a bit longer to see how it affects balance"
golden belfry
Def did, gathering moonlight stonks went up
tiny ridge
looks like i will get a socket again
strong bronze
The problem wasnt gathering moonlight stacks , the dmg that the split surges were supposed to do were doing nothing
golden belfry
I wasn't getting any stacks either pre fix
stiff totem
anyone got a good antenna WA?
opaque kiln
☝️
golden belfry
Yeah idc about surge cleave, buff better
And yes buff is from cleaved surges, happens far more now that tier does what it says
golden belfry
Riiiiight
strong bronze
And yes buff is from cleaved surges, happens far more now that tier does what it...
Thats not how the tier set works
tiny ridge
im only dudu without trinkets
lofty depot
well it was just hte cleave
the surges were giving stacks
it just wouldnt cleave
worried about the wrong thing
floral ocean
what ya'll crafting this week? belt?
lofty depot
"im gonna do so much damage now" doenst
lofty depot
what ya'll crafting this week? belt?
did u already craft bracer
floral ocean
word
lofty depot
sim it tho
deft crown
why does it say this? i checked all vault items+13 max gem choices
lofty depot
u have not enough items selected
deft crown
like how?
sacred tulip
for me, if they would buff our survival (maybe like moonkin form gains 5-10% magic dr)and maybe buff casted starsurge for st buff, I'd be happy.
sudden pawn
5-10% magic dr
sacred tulip
feels bad living in bear form
deft crown
what r u trying to do
sim my vault what is a possible upgrade
lofty depot
sim my vault what is a possible upgrade
id have to see everything under it. like whats check and shit
5% mana
what the
sacred tulip
I guess the real w would be less casts to kick. like only in 13 priory, dalcry secondary boss fireball was 90% hitting me if I didn't have bark up.
lofty depot
buy a new one
golden belfry
No reason for you to select lesser ilvl delve bs from vault and that's probably giving you errors for not enabling items to be cata'd
deft crown
id have to see everything under it. like whats check and shit
this is what i have selected
true viper
Fury got stealth buffed quick someone check the tier set
golden belfry
From just that pic looks like youre taking shoulders
lofty depot
can u try opening a new page and copying a new simc to it
also if ur trying to sim gems and enchants u dont have replace existing gmes checked
lol unselect these
deft crown
can u try opening a new page and copying a new simc to it
so what i done is i unselected minimum set bonus 4 made it to 0 now it doesnt give errors
golden belfry
Honestly just copy share link from your topgear sim
Crafted hands and looks like a mix of champion/hero/myth gear galore
Longplay optimization already cucked
lofty depot
There do be some gilded wasting
deft crown
i joined late didnt research and just crafted gloves to have ilvl to progress i had no idea about embelished stuff so ye its scuffed
golden belfry
Aight well put your share link in so can look at the actual sim and not just some pic of 5 items
Shoulders/socket from that pic alone for me
Those ones specifically I think are crit/mast so they're not the worst to leave non-cata'd, but people are using loom shoulders as offpiece I think
golden belfry
Guy even has a forge... everyone else always lucky
teal sierra
Damn..
deft crown
but its normal tho
dry compass
If you're receiving myth track gear youll run out of places to spend runed crests so fast that there is no functional difference between champ & hero track for weeks 3-8ish of season
golden belfry
Yeah I mean your shit says to take helm but that's because yours isn't upgraded and your upgrade choices are def not ideal
dry compass
You're not going to sink gildeds into hero track as long as you have myth pieces to upgrade
dry compass
So hero track effectively caps at 4/6 which is equal to 8/8 champ
golden belfry
Or that ring if you do m+
round field
You're not going to sink gildeds into hero track as long as you have myth pieces...
id put gilded into forge over shitty myth piece
indigo barn
eh, hero trinkets are worth wasting 15 gilded to get them to 710 imo, but depends how fast you can get myth track trinkets
round field
its 30 gilded but sure
indigo barn
15 wasted
golden belfry
30 total 15 wasted
round field
not rly
indigo barn
oh they changed the ilvl thing this tier
deft crown
Or that ring if you do m+
i only do m+ for vault not focused on pushing high keys maybe if some guild mates wanna do some
round field
30 wasted
indigo barn
yea you right
dry compass
Meh with how early trinkets are this tier it's all a gamble
round field
cause raid trinkets drop higher ilvl
golden belfry
Though if you're getting a forge it's probably 710 anyways
merry ibex
We aren't getting that buff are we? My copium is running on fumes
dry compass
It's not like spymaster/house/kezan where you're probably using that 6/6 hero track for all of prog & most of farm
Depends on your loot priority within your guild ig
golden belfry
I mean guy has crafted hands and upgraded his hero shit to 6/6 instead of champ to 8/8, don't think he's doing m forge for higher ilvl drops anytime soon no offense
dry compass
They're gonna nerf araz again next week I think
golden belfry
Only place he's probably going to get trinks is likely m+ or some throwaway trink from soulbinder
dry compass
With how aggressively they're nerfing heroic despite it already being piss easy
indigo barn
0 chance they touch trinkets again after one trinket pass
sacred whale
how many crit should i have as boomie
dry compass
how many crit should i have as boomie
That's a question for the robot not us
lofty depot
You're not going to sink gildeds into hero track as long as you have myth pieces...
Tell that to my 710 araz
limpid grotto
omega fast question, in general this is our raid talents other than on soulbinder/soul hunters and araz ?
lofty depot
Cosmos no, but sure
round field
think u drop cosmos
limpid grotto
crashing star instead?
lofty depot
Ye
limpid grotto
and on other bosses, we can go M+ build right
sorry swapping back to boomy after half a year, just making sure
lofty depot
Soul hunters yes
limpid grotto
our druid got gkicked so I had to go back to druid cuz we lacked a druid buff kekW
lofty depot
Soulbinder u play EC, ur cringe
limpid grotto
Any chance you had the build at hand for Soulbinder/Araz
hasty karma
Soulbinder u play EC, ur cringe
fr? archon shows it as way above kotg damage for that fight. what do talents look like for soulbinder then?
lofty depot
IDC what archon says
And way above isn't true
There's just more people with the ability to pad
hasty karma
what soulbinder talents are ideal then?
lofty depot
Go look at warcraftlogs and stop using archon probably
hasty karma
v helpful ty for your input
ionic oak
It wasnt wrapped in a pretty bow but the answer is pretty true.
gentle scroll
Soulbinder u play EC, ur cringe
what makes it cringe?
ionic oak
Warcraft Logs export talents and blast
lofty depot
what makes it cringe?
That ur playing it
That ur trying to pad against better classes
lofty depot
I mean, u can parse as keeper
ionic oak
what makes it cringe?
If your squad is good then you playing ec will be bad cuz ads will die before you get good damage in
hasty karma
If your squad is good then you playing ec will be bad cuz ads will die before yo...
finally a helpful response, thank you
gentle scroll
Just double CA SS into adds as keeper for big damn?
golden belfry
I mean you got ce last season you should already know these things tbf
hasty karma
I mean you got ce last season you should already know these things tbf
are you talking to me or someone else?
golden belfry
You
dry compass
Tell that to my 710 araz
Sorry I don't see you and your 710 araz
limpid grotto
Also, do we hold convoke to line up with CA everytime?
hasty karma
bro what the i am here asking questions to learn and you're talking down on me for it?
limpid grotto
or do we just send it
cinder mist
What would you choose?
Myth track head tier piece with socket (Got HC track atm)
Astral Antenna HC track.
Sim is with maxed out items
ionic oak
Sorry I don't see you and your 710 araz
I can see myself
dry compass
O there u are
ionic oak
Wow
golden belfry
finally a helpful response, thank you
Nah just giving it back when stuff like this is said
hasty karma
Nah just giving it back when stuff like this is said
the responses before were demonstrably not helpful and pissy when i was trying to interact with the other dude
lofty depot
O there u are
Which boss rhat
hasty karma
this person finally said the why
dry compass
Which boss rhat
Boss dam on araz
hasty karma
instead of just calling people cringe
golden belfry
check wcl, don't use archon, very pissy indeed
dry compass
You have ritual forge you should be clearing me and my jug/lily ez
lofty depot
I clear u
sudden pawn
damn...
ionic oak
Araz dies tonight for yall too?
pallid bay
lofty depot
bro what the i am here asking questions to learn and you're talking down on me f...
U assume I'm talking down to u
limpid grotto
Do we hold convoke to line up with CA everytime? or do we just send it
dry compass
Do we hold convoke to line up with CA everytime? or do we just send it
Never convoke without ca
limpid grotto
okay cuz I saw a log on Saladhar in mythic and the guy sent it once or twice
dry compass
If you have convoke available and CA is more than 20-30s away you're using your CDs wrong before then
limpid grotto
maybe it was just mandatory damage necessity
lofty depot
Sent a convoke without ca?
hasty karma
U assume I'm talking down to u
no. not you
limpid grotto
yea
lofty depot
no. not you
Oh type shit
dry compass
Was it a feral druid
lofty depot
Gang gang
lofty depot
yea
Well, people that kill bosses before u can be wrong
I mean look at all those araz killers not double CAing late into the fight
Fuggn noobs
ionic oak
I was follwoing lorgs for help on araz
And saw this boomie hold cds for like 20 seconds
Weird dude
dry compass
And saw this boomie hold cds for like 20 seconds
Were they waiting for second pot?
limpid grotto
cheers then
lofty depot
Were they waiting for second pot?
He's talking about my opener
ionic oak
Were they waiting for second pot?
Beginning of the fight
ionic oak
Lol
ionic oak
I need to follow tythes timings
dry compass
Don't I'm also dogshit
lofty depot
Just wait til I do the new tech
stone ledge
Did someone say boss damage on araz
dry compass
Follow Revelstoke guy is goated
lofty depot
For 2nd amp
ripe slate
does boss damage on araz even matter atp lol
vital shard
araz as balance is shit
lofty depot
Wait, @craggy sonnet Do I do new CA on both amps?
lofty depot
araz as balance is shit
Fake opinion
stone ledge
does boss damage on araz even matter atp lol
If you are trying to skip 2nd intermission
ripe slate
ionic oak
Tell me the secrets arctic. Help a brotha out
stone ledge
Yeah we did it in our kill
ripe slate
is it lust on pull stuff?
stone ledge
Yeah
vital shard
Fake opinion
every warlock is doing a lot more, no need to bring balance there in mythic expect vortex and typhoon
ripe slate
neat
imma relay that we justk illed it normally this week
pushed p3 with 10s on the vuln
stone ledge
That 2nd intermission is pepe steer
dry compass
every warlock is doing a lot more, no need to bring balance there in mythic expe...
That typhoon and vortex pretty important tbh
Would 100% take a boomie over a third warlock, potentially even the second
lofty depot
every warlock is doing a lot more, no need to bring balance there in mythic expe...
Ok, so warlock does nothing but damage
And I'm here doing mechanics
I'm an ethical raider
I even do the hard set solo
stone ledge
Wild charge into knock is also giga consistent unlike other knocks that can get adds
dry compass
Wild charge into knock is also giga consistent unlike other knocks that can get ...
Mfw the shaman gets adds and panic thunderstorms
lofty depot
True
My enh did that
And I'm like dawg
"I didn't press it"
Blud I see the debuff
dry compass
Then how'd it go off bud
dry compass
Also always get a kick out of trying to control a straggler with vortex 0.1s before the dk grips it into the stack
lofty depot
Little rat
ionic oak
Also always get a kick out of trying to control a straggler with vortex 0.1s bef...
Been there
lofty depot
Tell me the secrets arctic. Help a brotha out
It's just a funny faster ca
Old opener press CA faster
I need to see amp timing tho
sinful surge
how we enjoying the buffs :)
dry compass
how we enjoying the buffs :)
sinful surge
jovial siren
how we enjoying the buffs :)
sinful surge
abstract spruce
how we enjoying the buffs :)
This made me go check wowhead…
RUDE
sinful surge
xD
plucky valley
I mean, if u got vault u got a buff
That’s a beautiful mindset honestly
lofty depot
Stay positive
U could be a feral and have just as much unfun but ur playing a feral
And that's L
sacred tulip
yeah myth tier chest felt nice. guess I'll stop whining for buffs 
wild dune
U could be a feral and have just as much unfun but ur playing a feral
Idk man boomie ain't exactly fun
sick cove
astral antenna hc or myth headpiece
sick cove
m+
maiden pasture
Not an easy call tbh, myth helm is great but if you never see an antenna again you'll be depressed
But also when dinar comes you can just buy one
Cause first 2 are piss easy to pug
sick cove
Just cleared hc and no antenna drop 🙂
lofty depot
Idk man boomie ain't exactly fun
If ur not having fun with venthyr lite I'm sorry
wild dune
I don't raid brother 
lofty depot
Lol EC plays the same as it did last season, the fuck the issue
wild dune
It continues to be an awful gameplay experience 
lofty depot
Smh
broken crypt
most likely asked a billions times but when would you replace the d.i.s.c. belt
lucid olive
when the sim tells you to tbh
naive venture
Hey! I'm wondering about my secondary stats. The sim tells me to lean heavily into crit but most people according to stats I checked on archon are still playing mainly mastery. What do you think?
round field
leaning into crit doesnt mean ur not gonna have mainly mastery
naive venture
I'm mainly deciding on enchants. Sim tells full crit, most of people still run mastery
lofty depot
Changing gems/enchants doesn't mean ur going heavily into crit
U still likely have 10-20k more mastery than crit
dry compass
are wowhead links just broken today or what
unless I'm opening in a new tab none of the links on the site seem to work
glass geode
did boomkin get nerfed or astral trinket?
lofty depot
What
glass geode
my parses are lower this week than last week, this week i got astral and used it. not sure if it's boomkin nerfed or the trinket
lofty depot
Maybe ur playing wrong and others arent
glass geode
i was hitting 90's parse last week, this week 50's
maiden pasture
If ur not having fun with venthyr lite I'm sorry
you know wahts the least fun, you pop on pull for taza hard mode and ur weapon gets impounded at the perfect time to take ur last 2 dryad surges out of cA
i will NOT delay and continue to get annoyed
lofty depot
Maybe ur wearing an agility staff by accident
dry compass
maybe you got turbo-geared week 1 and were carried to 90s by gear and now other people are catching up
lofty depot
you know wahts the least fun, you pop on pull for taza hard mode and ur weapon g...
That do be the worst
glass geode
hmm
parapodia or astral?
last week i wore signet + parapodia
this week signet + astral
glass geode
both same ilvl
lofty depot
I mean, r u picking up the astral buffs
lofty depot
Do u know there's orbs u need to pick up
maiden pasture
we cant tell u shit from random anecdotes
lofty depot
That's crazy
maiden pasture
reading is HARD
glass geode
.>
lofty depot
Blud like, this trinket trying to steal my crit
lofty depot
dry compass
oh lord
lofty depot
@stone ledge he got antenna and said fuck the buffs
dry compass
can you give me your antenna
glass geode
dry compass
i will give it a good home i promise
glass geode
all boss fights are similar as last week > today performance
glass geode
really?
glass geode
look at last week
lofty depot
U played wrong then too
First of all, we didn't send trees then Sunfire previously
So it's just wrong opener even the old thinking
2nd, u should be moonfiring in opener because trees is too slow
3rd, u need to be delaying the trees press so it lines up with the dryad despawn and u can get trees + 2nd + buffed surges
lofty depot
- Thought process wise.... Ur ending an eclipse and thinking u should press trees + CA here (you shouldn't but let's run down the logic train). You then dumped 2 surges which means now u will be half roughly asp. When u press CA then u'll likely only have enough asp to send 2 surges. I could've just sent one and had full asp for ur CDs. Doing more damage in ur CDs
queen pulsar
Do i use araz trinket on the 2 buffed starsurges or just on CA?
lofty depot
2., u dont send CA at 122 because u want to line it up with convoke always.
U send with ca because the int effects convoke aswell
queen pulsar
lofty depot
so i use tree during 2nd celestial after first celestial runs out yes?
No, u use trees 2 globals into ca
glass geode
so after 2 starsurge basically then?
lucid olive
yes
glass geode
just bit shocked cos like i did exactly same last week then today it's just diff
i ll fix that, thank you again
lofty depot
Opener is wrath wrath Starfire sunfire moonfire CA surge surge trees convoke surge wrath til trees has 2 seconds left ca
glass geode
starfire? really
lofty depot
U can press another wrath if u want
lofty depot
?
glass geode
so build up astral power then cds and tree
then 2nd celestial when tree nearly runs out eh
not when first celestial runs out?
glass geode
wrath wrath moonfire sunfire starfire cds?
lofty depot
Do not wait for trees to run out to press ur next ca, press it with 2ish seconds left
lofty depot
wrath wrath moonfire sunfire starfire cds?
That is not what I said
Please read it again
lucid olive
wrath wrath moonfire sunfire starfire cds?
Read the Compendium guide linked in pins and channel description! 🙂
lofty depot
That too
The there's a video made by some loser that might help, it's linked in there
stone ledge
<@277303632452386817> he got antenna and said fuck the buffs
Me staring at the 14 orbs surrounding me while I send my last dryad surge into araz on the amp 
lofty depot
And then not critting
stone ledge
Imagine you play the entire araz fight correctly but crit 0 surges and you green parse and get benched
There’s a world where that happened to a poor boomkin
What is this 1 minute
stone ledge
Has to be 1 minute
stone ledge
Xbox record that
lofty depot
Imagine you play the entire araz fight correctly but crit 0 surges and you green...
I did that, but r4d
First amp got no crits
reef forge
Hello all, I need some quick advice on my vault.
Should I take a Hero Voidglass Spire w/o tricket or generic Mythic pants?
I have crafted staff.
lofty depot
Cata the legs?
stone ledge
I need to watch your replay to see what % you ca’d the collectors at
lofty depot
Spire is beans
reef forge
I can make the legs set next week.
lofty depot
Ok
sonic surge
ok got this which makes more sense for ST
is this to be expect for playing EC in 8target?
currently using 710 lily and 710 parapodia
similar outcome for 3 and 5 target sim
lofty depot
I mean why r we simming 8t fuggn w.e. time frame
sonic surge
I mean why r we simming 8t fuggn w.e. time frame
idk cuz we cant dungeon slice so i sim multiple profiles
lofty depot
Yea that's not really how we make decisions for m+
sonic surge
its similar output for 5t as mentioned
lucid olive
sure
sonic surge
Yea that's not really how we make decisions for m+
how do u sim for m+, mdt sim?
lucid olive
EC in m+ likes either double passive or Lily + passive
lofty depot
Yea but neither of those outputs matter
lucid olive
both are good
lofty depot
how do u sim for m+, mdt sim?
Yes
But yea, Araz and generally 2m CDs are tougher with ec
Just the way it is with the CD timings
Best raid trinkets by miles
sonic surge
also do u guys run EC in keys like streets? i find it extremely hard to do well in streets due to the small pack sizes
by the time im done dotting mobs are like 70% hp alr
lofty depot
Do higher keys
lofty depot
Good news there's higher for that
sonic surge
its streets specifically thats problematic
is it just a suck it up we're not good at streets sorta situation?
lofty depot
Yes
But u went with the same problem in top last season and u stayed ec
It's not likely to change
stone ledge
im doign 14s
14s don’t even live my double ca
Not even counting the warrior+fury that drops right after it
sonic surge
But u went with the same problem in top last season and u stayed ec
i played kotg in m+ last season, i didnt find it performing much lower than EC to be worth dealing with moonfiring every single mob, but this season EC outshines kotg more
lofty depot
Crazy the mind of an m+er
stone ledge
I just stayed ec and still beat the 5 target specs in top ngl
high turret
I do fine as EC in 10-12s, my boomie is just an alt so not trying to push higher keys, it also outsims KOTG by a large margin
magic lantern
didnt have the best of pulls on soulbinder but what is this? https://i.gyazo.com/07984c875c37f842379344a36894eb55.png
gentle scroll
Thats every Soulbinder
magic lantern
ye 😭
normal pilot
so many purple loggers they'll never buff us now
smoky prawn
How do you use the 2nd set of starsurges in the big opener? Do you squeez them into the last bit of CA or do you go into a new eclipse for the crit?
lofty depot
Last part of ca
smoky prawn
Thanks 👌
lofty depot
Someone did maff surely. I don't have sim for it.... But 2 eclipse better than 1 + boat I suppose
Is probably the maff
Ope and 2 eclipse + harmony
lofty depot
Uh, yea
midnight bough
Is the dungeon leaver thing implemented? I haven't seen anyone marked with that
lofty depot
Yes
frigid rover
I saw a ret with it. Valid crashout since they don't have a discord to vent in anymore
lofty depot
Ur like 2 weeks late to a meme and they're discord is running again
frigid rover
Well blizz is 4 weeks late to buffing us so evens out
vital shard
Well blizz is 4 weeks late to buffing us so evens out
there will be no buffs for us
warm valley
I just want the EC set bonus to proc more 
vital shard
just play as good as possible and give a shit about details
we are lacking in ST on longer fights and on burst cleave, coz of ramp up times. thats our class so no need to buff anything.
timber cosmos
I need to vent - I just find this new kotg tierset so awkward and clunky to use, its really frustrating after really enjoying the spec for the past 6/7 seasons and ive been with this same druid since vanilla :<
vital shard
you go for max burst with keeper of the grave 😄
on fight lenghts about 4 min we are pretty good, coz of that initial burst phase
night gulch
we are lacking in ST on longer fights and on burst cleave, coz of ramp up times....
no shot your move is to just be ok with lackluster damage lol, thats such an insane mentality when most fights are >4 minutes
jaunty blaze
its some take indeed
get forced into a niche (burst st)
dont be good at it
its the class gg
?
night gulch
"just give up"
lofty depot
I need to vent - I just find this new kotg tierset so awkward and clunky to use,...
Takes time and muscle memory
I sometimes fuck my trees press up
vital shard
"just give up"
no it has nothing to do with that. there is just no other solution. we will not get any buffs this season, otherwise we had already. so you can go feral or heal or reroll on a class with an rewarding gameplay
lofty depot
we are lacking in ST on longer fights and on burst cleave, coz of ramp up times....
It's not about longer fights, it's about CD timings
If the fight ends right at ur CDs u'll be top
lofty depot
no it has nothing to do with that. there is just no other solution. we will not ...
That's not true
night gulch
we will get buffs eventually
lofty depot
They haven't done class tuning, which happens after rwf
night gulch
saying give up is insane though
lofty depot
Then more fun shit happens around 11.2.5
vital shard
I realized it as follows -> dungeons, normal and hc is fine coz of good timing.
lofty depot
Mythic is fine
night gulch
no one cares about heroic tuning, thats just being honest. Those fights are a joke
vital shard
Bosses dying at 5m is good timing
yeah right
lofty depot
so i should get the useless neck
Why not either trinket
gentle scroll
It has okay stats for raid, why are you asking again?
tiny ridge
Why not either trinket
idk no one play with this items...
vital shard
and what sims best for u
tiny ridge
U take what u can from vault
i can take a gem too
lofty depot
Then take the gem
sour rampart
That's not the right copy paste
lofty depot
And that has that iqninus rat playing feral
vital shard
I think it will be better in mythic also when the fights will be shorter and not about 7 mins
tiny ridge
Then take the gem
looks like most worth
lofty depot
Long fight is fine if it's 6 uhhh 15 I think
Ummmur talking about fight timers that aren't good rather than "long fights"
Long fights are fine. Dimmy is fine
The kill time is how changes how we look
hasty karma
Do not wait for trees to run out to press ur next ca, press it with 2ish seconds...
why is this? and is there any point in here starlord gets cancelled or do we deal with it being off from an earlier ca press?
lofty depot
why is this? and is there any point in here starlord gets cancelled or do we dea...
I..... Have been starlord canceling on 2nd trees
Which I wait til new eclipse trees then starlord cancel
But it's likely not a gain
It just feels better
night gulch
feels good though
vital shard
yeah right about the kill time^^
lofty depot
But the reason u do the delay trees is cuz the buff it gives
lofty depot
yeah right about the kill time^^
I mean think what u want I suppose.
timber cosmos
Compendium accurate for KOTG - AOE? looks like you send trees, then CA so the surges during favor would be w/o trees
lofty depot
Compendium accurate for KOTG - AOE? looks like you send trees, then CA so the su...
Sim thing or
hasty karma
But the reason u do the delay trees is cuz the buff it gives
sorry to be dumb - this is meant to buff the first two surges (dryad ones) in the new ca, right? there's not some fucking wild ass thing i don't understand where trees buffs the ca cast or something right?
lofty depot
Well tress give a 24% dam buf
night gulch
trees are a damage amp, you delay by two seconds to then send buff surges with your 2nd ca
lofty depot
But yes it's to buff the buffed surges
night gulch
so they get the damage amp from it
lofty depot
Yeet
night gulch
it makes sense once you get reps with it, feels weird at first considering we've been sending trees into ca since the start of the expac
timber cosmos
Im mainly just doing keys ~12 but compared to last season I feel so weak and this tierset is driving me crazy that its just not clicking
hasty karma
it makes sense once you get reps with it, feels weird at first considering we've...
dude so true. i am just now getting with the tier set program, feels bad to be behind but at least i'm learning
lofty depot
Cuz it has crit
celest schooner
even on MOP classic we're bad 
lofty depot
And Crit is yucky
tiny ridge
so i got nothing from this shit vault
night gulch
crit = big nums = dopamine
jaunty blaze
Bro still at it
jaunty blaze
💀
lofty depot
I mean ur trinket double on use big numby
night gulch
unless your sim is cooked
tiny ridge
but the trinket is use
lofty depot
Take the gem if u don't want it
tiny ridge
u cant use both trinket at the same time
lofty depot
It's an increase
tiny ridge
i already have gem from my last vault
night gulch
no shit
night gulch
you send them at different times
tiny ridge
it is kind a stupid to get gems when u have no items
lofty depot
Yea, welcome to gamba gearing
lofty depot
I took a gem week 0 when everyone else got tier week 1 cuz they got tier and needed 1 piece from raid
night gulch
I took a gem week 0 when everyone else got tier week 1 cuz they got tier and nee...
you and me both twin
tiny ridge
I took a gem week 0 when everyone else got tier week 1 cuz they got tier and nee...
at leat u got something
i got nothing 2 weeks..
night gulch
are you counting this week as nothing
native egret
I took a gem week 0 when everyone else got tier week 1 cuz they got tier and nee...
i need a piece from raid for my offspec
night gulch
because a 250k dps increase is insane to say "nothing", my upgrade from vault this week was like 60k and i had to send crests into it
round field
its not..
night gulch
and it looks like the trinket being replaced is the giga zap from floodgate which is turbo bad
tiny ridge
are you counting this week as nothing
Yes
night gulch
10t1m sim
hasty dove
So we getting buffs this week? Sounds good
upper anvil
the belt isnt even 701 💀
night gulch
surely tomorrow, servers randomly going down on a thursday
hasty dove
surely tomorrow, servers randomly going down on a thursday
They full sending the buffs @wicked shuttle said so on stream
night gulch
jaunty blaze
Surely
night gulch
friday buffs will be announced
I'm choosing to believe you, not because it'll happen but because my mental health depends on it
jaunty blaze
This week is the one
wicked shuttle
@lucid olive you ready?
jaunty blaze
All aboard
hasty dove
Tettles would never lie t us
robust oracle
araz mythic, this is so crazy that we are doing same damage
tiny ridge
hasty dove
araz mythic, this is so crazy that we are doing same damage
Krona said boomie is fine and will be meta on friday
lucid olive
refreshing blue posts
lofty depot
<@147914503588282368> you ready?
dont lie
normal pilot
wait is that a new pin
robust oracle
what is friday?
normal pilot
that's cheating
hasty dove
Lorgok came back from retirement and said friday is the day boomie is rising
night gulch
pre-emptive pin is crazy
lucid olive
that's cheating
i've edited the end of it like 4 times
lofty depot
The experts and mods lie
lucid olive
the wowhead blue tracker is basically home page at this point
lofty depot
Gas tank would never tho
tiny ridge
i think is bad for me to play with 2 activte trinkets
normal pilot
just sign up for the rss
lucid olive
i should
lofty depot
i think is bad for me to play with 2 activte trinkets
Then dont
lucid olive
i was looking at getting a RSS reader and make it my "new tab" page on firefox
hasty dove
the wowhead blue tracker is basically home page at this point
is it true that boomie is getting buffed and they nerfing the raid?
lofty depot
No
lofty depot
B gonna buff the raid and nerf Boomie again
hasty dove
B gonna buff the raid and nerf Boomie again
B deez nuts
night gulch
B gonna buff the raid and nerf Boomie again
the salt would flow
hasty dove
All the good players don't play boomkin
I play boomie
tiny ridge
All the good players don't play boomkin
only bad like me
hasty dove
oh wait
hasty dove
is it true that guardian deals more dmg in keys than boomie atm
lofty depot
Dwilkz gearing boomkin on rekills, thinking it gets buffed
lofty depot
Inagine
lofty depot
is it true that guardian deals more dmg in keys than boomie atm
Maybe if ur name is boxna
hasty dove
Maybe if ur name is boxna
Its box B and sugondeez
upper anvil
not this shit class with constant dmg
Are you telling me you're not averaging 7-13m overall in keys?
Smh get them numbers up
hasty dove
Are we supposed to dot stuff?
tiny ridge
Are you telling me you're not averaging 7-13m overall in keys?
i never seen someone above 7m in dps in my keys
night gulch
crazy actually, 7m dps is extremely easy to get to
tiny ridge
10
hasty dove
What levels are you doing
4-5s
upper anvil
What 10s are you in Mr boxna 💀
night gulch
demon keys actually lol
tiny ridge
?
upper anvil
I've had 10s where all 3 dps was averaging 11-13m was fun
hasty dove
Hm. Depends on pug og for 4 to 5s
Im not getting invited to 10s cuz im boomie
upper anvil
Im boomie and I've been invited to 13s and 14s
tiny ridge
Im boomie and I've been invited to 13s and 14s
bcs ur pro player
upper anvil
Tho I haven't decided to push higher then 13s currently cba
night gulch
if you're not getting invited its a skill issue
tiny ridge
so im playing all day and cant be average ;/
upper anvil
i mean im just a average player that learns new things every day
fickle cliff
it depends on the dungeons, in prior is easy to average 7+, not so much in streets or others
upper anvil
i bug mr artic telling me useful tips and infos
night gulch
playing all day does not imply you're playing well, just that you're playing a lot
maiden pasture
<@147914503588282368> you ready?
ragebait used to be believable
tiny ridge
i mean im just a average player that learns new things every day
so ur not average player
night gulch
i play all day and im ass
upper anvil
i mean i am average player, learning new things every day does not make you not an average player
just learn and youll pull big numbers ezpz
tiny ridge
u are pro
fickle cliff
a 10
lofty depot
Well u could be the average m+ 10 doer
upper anvil
its just disappointing that you cant just pull 40m with cds like ele sham or dks smh
stone ledge
‘Pro’ players aren’t really a thing for m+ minus mdi and tgp
tiny ridge
whats the item call to put gems in my neck?
lofty depot
Ur missing 2m from that numby
upper anvil
priory good dungeon for big numby
lofty depot
Big dungeon
stone ledge
upper anvil
can easily burst 30 m if you dot the big packs
then get out bursted by ele sham by 20m more :kek:
lofty depot
Why r we doing dungeons with hunters
upper anvil
or DK pressing cds
lofty depot
Are we trolling
lofty depot
Ur fault for applying
upper anvil
man i have a hutner guildie and playing with him makes me sad how fast dude nukes mobs
lofty depot
Hunter only take damage, doesn't give me damage
stone ledge
When pugging 14+ you take what you can get haha
upper anvil
reminds me, ive seen fury warriros in keys pull near 11m, gotta pump them numbers as boomie
tiny ridge
how do we sim stats
ripe slate
watching critcake reveal the warrior sandbag
ripe slate
is this good
ripe slate
if they had brm in that comp holy xdd
tiny ridge
should i use Stat Weights ?
ripe slate
no
upper anvil
man brew masters are just on crack this season
tiny ridge
how can i know what gems i need
ripe slate
top gear, gem settings at the bottom-ish
upper anvil
sim it with top gear
tiny ridge
ok
sinful flower
just got my 4P set, i've been struggling to undersand when to do the second convoke the spirits in kotg. is it like the opener where you chain both ca so you hold it until you have 2 ca available?
tacit oriole
they are just going to tell you to look at the compendium
round field
is this good
press buttons mby?
fickle grail
a 10
u know whats crazy.
i did 9.4 in a 10, in s2 tierset, put on s3, and suddenly cant even get close
gg
dry compass
just got my 4P set, i've been struggling to undersand when to do the second conv...
it depends on fight timings - if the fight lasts long enough to your THIRD convoke you can save up two charges of CA to do the same cast sequence as the opener, otherwise you can send convoke 2+ with a single charge of CA
viral mirage
Hello !
I opened my vault and got Araz trinket in heroic, after siming, it tells me to pick it and change it with lily which is 723, is it worth it ?
dry compass
for raid yes for M+ no
araz will outperform even mythic lily due to niche interactions with keeper tierset
viral mirage
That makes me sad, but alright ty
tiny ridge
Lily of the Eternal Weave
Azhiccaran Parapodia
Best for raid and keys?
stone ledge
Antenna forge for raid
craggy sonnet
Wait, <@140589769158688769> Do I do new CA on both amps?
sorry, had raid ..
i dont think so. you can get 4 surges into the first amp .. and you would do a pylon CA for 2nd as well if it was guaranteed to run for full 12s
lofty depot
yea thats what i thought
tiny ridge
Antenna forge for raid
i have forge champion but lilu and azh sim better at hero on st
storm frigate
Lily of the Eternal Weave
Azhiccaran Parapodia
Best for raid and keys?
makes me sad i was talked out of getting mythic lily from my guild and icy veins week 2
maiden pasture
lily is shit in raid
maiden pasture
Wait, <@140589769158688769> Do I do new CA on both amps?
wots new CA
lofty depot
nothing
maiden pasture
gatekeeping..........
lofty depot
well u see, it could be better
it could be dawgshit
theres a reason its not in the apl
barren carbon
lofty depot
i have bluetracker and refresh usually
upper anvil
Are we still coping buffs
lofty depot
yes
molten sandal
The cope never ends
normal pilot
only copers left
wicked shuttle
Never stop coping
molten sandal
Anybody here who knows how to lua in weakauras
lucid olive
ask chat gpt
molten sandal
Damn that's right, Chatgpt exists
pallid bay
Don't ask chatgpt
lucid olive
dsune is clankcist
molten sandal
@lucid olive How do I add the amount of fleeting tempered potions and tempered potions in a weakaura display text
lofty depot
download a weakaura that already does it 😉
lucid olive
you yoink a weakaura that has it for another consumable and change the trigger ID
drifting nova
holy god half these wa trackers blow
wicked shuttle
Could alternatively just have it read items in the trigger
molten sandal
Jokes aside, that's what I have rn. But I want to add both values together before displaying
molten sandal
That's the normal ones, I want to add the Fleeting potions to that amount
molten sandal
I would assume it's as simple as
function(Trigger)
return Trigger[3] + Trigger[4]
end
But no
Or Trigger[3].value or whatever
molten sandal
But I like you guys more
lucid olive
well thats surely a mistake
tacit oriole
Do you guys even see us getting a big buff? Realistically, I'm thinking like a 3-4% aura buff.
warm atlas
disc channel was not shut down. we get nothing!
lofty depot
im glad ur thinking
drifting nova
voidglass set any good or booty
tacit oriole
What are you thinking @lofty depot ?
hasty dove
Do you guys even see us getting a big buff? Realistically, I'm thinking like a 3...
Starfall dmg 70% dmg buff imo
lofty depot
guys look, i made someone think im in a thinker
silly
i have a picture for u one sec
dry compass
is this more of the arctic-tries-to-be-a-wow-twitter-chatter arc?
molten sandal
ChatGPT actually got it. I don't know why I even bother with documentation anymore
function()
local fleetingPotionID = 212971 -- Fleeting Tempered Potion
local temperedPotionID = 212265 -- Tempered Potion
local fleetingCount = GetItemCount(fleetingPotionID, false)
local temperedCount = GetItemCount(temperedPotionID, false)
return string.format(fleetingCount + temperedCount)
end
dry compass
ChatGPT actually got it. I don't know why I even bother with documentation anymo...
because on new expac launch when everything changes outside chatgpt's date context window it'll still be telling you to use tempered potions
quiet drift
Btw has anyone done some testing with the KotG 2pc Starfall
molten sandal
That's why I added two variables. Only need to swap the IDs
quiet drift
Swear to god its not 800%
molten sandal
We don't. We handle this in a more sophisticated way by group dooming
dry compass
when are we gonna shut down the discord and go on strike?
we've been bottom-quartile for like... 5 tiers in a row now?
we're just not as unhinged as the ret pallies
low sigil
I came back lat tier and boomkin wasn't this bad.
lofty depot
i found it
lofty depot
That's bif cope
dry compass
it wasnt literally the bottom but it was 2-3 from the bottom
pallid bay
ChatGPT actually got it. I don't know why I even bother with documentation anymo...
This is shit
Idc that it works
dry compass
confidently wrong? who made this
pallid bay
Btw has anyone done some testing with the KotG 2pc Starfall
Its
lofty depot
gamz
upper anvil
loud kettle
Itsgamz
quiet drift
Affected by nothing
Awesome!
pallid bay
Same with the surges
lofty depot
everyone was like wow dryad surges so big
but dont realize its not dryads surges that are big
dry compass
no shot gamz put sune in "useful"
worthy oak
Guys, all the tier lists say the balance is F-tier in raid and M+, but as an intermediate player, keys 12/13, I didn't feel it was too bad, not even in Raid HC.
Do you have any points that would justify these tier lists? What do you think of our little owl?
lofty depot
no shot gamz put sune in "useful"
this was when sune was green
dry compass
Guys, all the tier lists say the balance is F-tier in raid and M+, but as an int...
you play entirely different talents in raid and the damage profile requirements are extremely different
lofty depot
Guys, all the tier lists say the balance is F-tier in raid and M+, but as an int...
its fine in m+
pallid bay
Tier lists are a plague
molten sandal
This is shit
Elaborate.
pallid bay
Well you're using WA to fetch the information
pallid bay
Then you're making api calls yourself
dry compass
this was when sune was green
even green-name sune was more useful than @teal sphinx
pallid bay
To fetch the same information again
gentle patio
@molten sandal delete that crap and give me 1 min
pallid bay
molten sandal
Then you're making api calls yourself
Where am I fetching the information through WA? I deleted the triggers. It's only that function
gentle patio
@molten sandal add a 3rd trigger for the other potions item count
use %c in text
in the custom text function paste:
function()
return aura_env.states[2] and aura_env.states[3] and aura_env.states[2].stacks + aura_env.states[3].stacks
end
https://tenor.com/view/rinauchis-cocobearkins-gif-16860191433504714497
I have to tear others down to make myself feel better about this slight
pallid bay
Where am I fetching the information through WA? I deleted the triggers. It's onl...
Even worse then
gentle patio
Where am I fetching the information through WA? I deleted the triggers. It's onl...
if you did this then the count is only going to update when it goes on/off cooldown. So if you have 300 and you buy 50 more, the number will be 300 until you use a potion.
Unless you set the text to update on every frame, which is even worse.
warm atlas
Here are your moonkin buffs!🤣
-Starfall and Starsurge damage increased by 5%. Astral power cost increased by 10.
-Elune's Chosen (4pc) - Starsurges launched by Starfire split up to 2 additional targets (down from 3) at 50% effectiveness (up from 40%).
-Keeper of the Grove (4pc) - Starsurge no longer splash damage, but damage increased to 5% (up from 3%).
-Full Moon now deals 10% more damage.
round field
Ur so funny
dry compass
fiddling with spender AsP cost makes for an obvious fake
molten sandal
if you did this then the count is only going to update when it goes on/off coold...
Ah, I understand! Thank you!
dry compass
full moon needs a lot more than 10% dam to make it playable
wild dune
every 200ap spent turns your next starsurge into a full moon (also buff full moon by 200% pls ty)
warm atlas
it's nonsense guys lol but that's usually what happens with tuning for moonkin. it's just a joke to remind myself.. this is a video game ;P
gentle patio
every 200ap spent turns your next starsurge into a full moon (also buff full moo...
Temu arcanic pulsar
dry compass
bold of you to assume we're getting 4 whole lines
lofty depot
every 200ap spent turns your next starsurge into a full moon (also buff full moo...
let him cook
lone root
Every 5 surge send full moon, every 5 starfall makes them rain for 4seconds
warm atlas
Every 5 surge send full moon, every 5 starfall makes them rain for 4seconds
yes please!
upper anvil
hm i had to download update, does this mean we get our boomie buffs
lofty depot
no it means u havent logged on since last week
upper anvil
but i was on legit this morning 💀
lofty depot
yea sure
stone ledge
hm i had to download update, does this mean we get our boomie buffs
The update removed balance Druid
molten sandal
At least our suffering would have an end
obsidian jetty
We need a talent that goes something like "Every surge you cast during starfall causes a wave of surges dealing 20% damage to all targets." All the surges can proc goldrin
so you fall once, surge once, and get fireworks on your screen
stone ledge
Mfin firework show
molten sandal
"Press Surge to 5 FPS"
drifting nova
We need a talent that goes something like "Every surge you cast during starfall ...
cosmic..radiance 
pliant moon
Bring back stellar drift
maiden pasture
no
scenic mist
seeing pepsi there
- sune in "useful" lmao
maiden pasture
this is some horseshit for sure how do u put dsune in same tier as soma
dry compass
and gilly
drifting nova
remind me again why you can even roll on an item you already have a 720 craft for
scenic mist
<:SuspiciousChicken:468815079836745728> remind me again why you can even roll on...
bad coding
drifting nova
bad coding
brother had a starlight wrist
and won the dimensisus bracers
I still have 639 
scenic mist
dimensisus is the hidden boss right ?
scenic mist
cant convince me kazzakians arent actual single celled organisms
kazzak = middle east
drifting nova
scenic mist
they have their own culture
drifting nova
55g is 55g
tight dagger
TY for having 26% crit at my opener
lofty depot
this is some horseshit for sure how do u put dsune in same tier as soma
its not mine
scarlet tapir
gotta update this at some point
dry compass
dont let your memes be dreams twist
stone ledge
Didn’t make the cut
lofty depot
this was made like almost 2 year sago
lofty depot
and u likely wouldnt
dry compass
this was made like almost 2 year sago
no shot it was that long ago
i was not chatting in dg in 2023
stone ledge
The best I can do is shotgun araz adds on 4 different directions
dry compass
this is like, late amirdrassil s1 tww at earliest
obsidian jetty
and won the dimensisus bracers
it's because those wrist make your hands glow with fire. S tier tmog
lucid olive
it's from middle of season 1 somewhere
it was after mahranaka made his control of the dream with peoples PFPs weakaura
cause i used the same files
drifting nova
it's because those wrist make your hands glow with fire. S tier tmog
kazzakian dogs have the memory of a goldfish, truly a spectacle
lucid olive
confidently wrong? who made this
mad? 
severe mantle
How do I macro if I have treants vs warrior of elune like u could with old talents? :<
maiden pasture
#showtooltip [known:205636]Force of Nature; [known:202425]Warrior of Elune
/cast [@cursor, known:205636]Force of Nature
/cast [known:202425]Warrior of Elune
obsidian jetty
How do I macro if I have treants vs warrior of elune like u could with old talen...
/cast [@cursor, known:205636]Force of Nature
/cast [known:202425]Warrior of Elune```
can use this if you wantme when I try find a specific key to get rating, they just dont exist
severe mantle
ty kindly
maiden pasture
all the good balance players are playing feral, not because feral is good, but because we need to keep up the sandbagging
sturdy pumice
imma spam moonfire and thats it
noble spindle
we're sandbagging
craggy sonnet
then we bring out the real tech
working on it
noble spindle
all we need to do now is to close the dreamgrove discord