balance

[jaunty blaze]

Send on what

[leaden birch]

all my hero pieces

😭

[jaunty blaze]

Nah

[craggy sonnet]

holy

[leaden birch]

im desperate

[craggy sonnet]

for what

[leaden birch]

for an upgrade

I wanna feel something

[normal pilot]

press n pick cat instant upgrade

[leaden birch]

https://tenor.com/view/dave-chappelle-need-gif-21451408

[jaunty blaze]

It wont fill the emptiness

[craggy sonnet]

go complete your hm taza run

[leaden birch]

no friends to do that with

they all suck

me included

[craggy sonnet]

too bad

i mean just crafting something is gonna be a bigger upgrade

and eventually you will get something to dump your gilded in

[leaden birch]

ye i just sent my runed crest into my wrists

[craggy sonnet]

its gonna feel horrible if you waste them now and then cant upgrade shit

[leaden birch]

ye i'm holding gilded

just sadge yk

[lofty depot]

U have 3% upgrade, but in the future.

[craggy sonnet]

there is no meaningful check on any boss pre saladbar

[lofty depot]

Araz be checking

[craggy sonnet]

whats he checking

you are phasing him not even half way through amp

[lofty depot]

We wipe at 4% cuz we no dam

[craggy sonnet]

naaah

maybe with 5 people deadge

[lofty depot]

Yea huh

No, everyone alive surely

[craggy sonnet]

surely

[lofty depot]

(I can't remember)

[modest orchid]

does dungeon slice look good for us

[jaunty blaze]

No

You cant even sim that because its disabled

And its not supported

[modest orchid]

o

how sim m+

5t?

[normal pilot]

there's a faq in the compendium in pins

[round field]

you can easily

[fossil shard]

Based

[modest orchid]

how

[livid sleet]

What should i sim as if i wanna check m+ dmg? says dungeon slice ain't supported 😮

[ionic oak]

#balance message

[jaunty blaze]

Literally just 3 messages above

[ionic oak]

bingo

[round field]

you import the color mod

and make it higher prio than color coded names

[lofty depot]

Nuhuh

[jaunty blaze]

I was never good at math

[ionic oak]

21

[polar storm]

they are asking because the compendium doesn't actually say what to do

[lofty depot]

They didnt look at the compendium

Cuz it does

[polar storm]

it's never clear how to sim moonkin and everyone has a different answer

[lofty depot]

It's clear, it's not multiple answers. There's a whole paragraph about it

[jaunty blaze]

Whatever made up scenario of x boss for x seconds isnt the way i can tell you that much

[lofty depot]

Well I did a very poggers 3t 7m sim earlier and I will be abiding by that

[jaunty blaze]

Put lily into that sim

[lofty depot]

I don't have Lily in vault so no

[digital berry]

The one that gave you 40k dps?

[jaunty blaze]

Very possible hc lily beats hc araz for that fight

[digital berry]

Do you raid twice a week?

[lofty depot]

3

[digital berry]

Ohh

[lofty depot]

The Lily vault was my mage

[jaunty blaze]

Harvesters edict very poggers

[lofty depot]

I have a hero Lily

So naturally the myth one is just good :/

[midnight bough]

Do we get a free catylsis charge every week or every other week now?

[round field]

every other

like always

[midnight bough]

So that means it is 7 days from now until next charge given right?

[fossil shard]

Unless your week is 8 days yes

[slate flicker]

vibe check: hero antenna or myth chest with avoidance. have soleahs and azzicar both hero track (no on use giga ). i pug raid when the mood hits and just vibe to 3k io with friends.

[fossil shard]

Sim

Robot guide you

[slate flicker]

sim is .3% diff asking for vibes

[jaunty blaze]

Do what your heart tells you

[ionic oak]

I had same choice. Myth Tier chest vs H. Antenna. H antenna was more. but i took chest

[slate flicker]

[ionic oak]

i can get antenna myth or heroic from raid

[lofty depot]

Did u sim antenna with Miss Chance

[ionic oak]

how teach me

[lofty depot]

At the bottom

[slate flicker]

i left that at 0%

[ionic oak]

i need that., cuz that orbs be cray

[slate flicker]

is it cursed in m+

[lofty depot]

Where everything always is

[lofty depot]

I mean I don't miss

That's on jah

[slate flicker]

shootas shoot

[ionic oak]

lol

[pseudo pawn]

hey, is there a big difference between sim with and without the custom apl from the compendium?

[round field]

custom apl?

[tiny ridge]

looks like puggin the raid is not possible

[lofty depot]

U can put most of heroic pretty easily

[tiny ridge]

ye ye

cant even kill the second boss

[lofty depot]

Can pug mythic first 2 probably ezpz

[lofty depot]

Why r u on the floor

[iron chasm]

Because it’s impossible Arctic

[jaunty blaze]

Did not listen to his raid lead

Didnt pump

[lofty depot]

Man, we might gain too much damage this week

CD timings giga fucked prob

[stone ledge]

Welcome to the 1 amp forgeweaver

Boss damage parse time

[lofty depot]

Meh already basically did that

5 seconds amp 2nd

[stone ledge]

Nah yall did a whole nothing intermission

[lofty depot]

Nah, intermission big dam

[stone ledge]

You didn’t have to do cds while fighting a damn black hole the full duration 😂

[lofty depot]

CA Starfall for millions

Yea that's big strat

[tiny ridge]

bcs everyone died?

so we play starfire on raid st?

[lofty depot]

We happen to cast Starfire 2 times every 15 seconds yes

[tiny ridge]

no

every time

[lofty depot]

No

[tiny ridge]

druid did more dmg than me he never used wrath

only starfire

[lofty depot]

Skrill issue

[acoustic rampart]

played better and used worse talents

[tiny ridge]

i was all the time above him

and at the end he did more dmg

[lofty depot]

Ok

Doesn't matter if u win by a foot or a mile, winnings winning.

[acoustic rampart]

the gigachad normal pug where boomies are specced into M+ talents

[ionic oak]

arctic. we getting buffs next week or nah

[tiny ridge]

warcraftlogs.com/reports/91kJ2fvgZcTKpyhm#fight=9&type=damage-done

[lofty depot]

Is next week, mean next Tuesday or

Cuz like it's look like 11.2.5 dawg

Brace yourselves

[jaunty blaze]

Dunno if I can take that

[ionic oak]

we try again in 12.0

[lofty depot]

? Lock in

Make fun of ur grey parsing locks

It's very shrimple

[drifting nova]

why would I score 2 on myself?

[tiny ridge]

lmao i got blue logs

[lofty depot]

"Gary I thought u didn't care about parse on prog kill"

Yea I don't, but if I'm that good

Locked in

[lofty depot]

Ur better than like 60% or people, gj

[tiny ridge]

thats nothing lmao

unless is purple is bad

[lofty depot]

If it ain't 99 it's bad

[tiny ridge]

thats true too

[drifting nova]

is dawn still the easiest dung

like s1 or

[ionic oak]

f dawn. all my friends hate dawn

[iron chasm]

Ecodome giga easy

[round field]

probably eco dome

[drifting nova]

priory seemed easy

also my highest eky

[round field]

a +3?

[ionic oak]

11+1

[drifting nova]

11+2 ackshully

respec me

[ionic oak]

i was close lol

[tiny ridge]

i thought i was doing good and im 50 blue log :((((

[drifting nova]

+3s past 10s dont exist in pugs

or my pugs anyway

[round field]

‚kekkers doing 13

crazy world

m+ rly piss easy

[lofty depot]

Ur pugging a boss and killing it likely 2m slower than the r1. Wcyd

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-walking-cat-meme-cat-meme-cat-run-gif-11219708134857825706

[ionic oak]

it sure is. i got to 3k last week. so you know its easy

[tiny ridge]

?

[lofty depot]

?

[ionic oak]

at this point you gotta take into account there are peple who are 710 4 ppieced out.

[ionic oak]

you going up against a thought out organized raid comp vs a pug group.
so timings will be off

[tiny ridge]

logs are based on ur ilvl not about ur gear

[ionic oak]

so you are nto going to look good compared to others

[lofty depot]

Ilvl not gear is crazy

[ionic oak]

lol

[lofty depot]

Ur main parse isn't based on ilvl

And ur 698, so 700 basically the same. I did 1.5mil more DPS than u 2 weeks ago

[dry compass]

soooooo where tuning

[jaunty blaze]

Any moment now surely

[ionic oak]

they wouldnt announce anything for this week right

its already a scrubbed week

we try again in 12.0

[lofty depot]

Yes ur fucked bud

Gas tank hasn't found the buffs, they ain't coming

[viral cliff]

12.0? sir buffs aint coming until 13.0

[lofty depot]

If u don't see a hm from gas tank by lunch

U ain't getting shit

[ionic oak]

its lunch righ tnow

i need to lock out for lunch. thanks for the reminder

[lofty depot]

Yes ur fucked bud

Don't u mean Glock out

[tiny ridge]

ok i will change class

[ionic oak]

fuckign based actrually

[lofty depot]

I mean, u had trouble with EC, I assume ur playing keeper wrong

What's the over under on the boss being dotted

I give like 1000 to 1 he does

[ionic oak]

what are dots

[jaunty blaze]

.

[tiny ridge]

which boss

[lofty depot]

The one u just killed bud

What

[ionic oak]

thats a funny question to ask though

"which boss"

[lofty depot]

Didn't I tell u to macro nigil to ca

[ionic oak]

maybe it came off cd at that time. lol

[jaunty blaze]

Funny he thinks of pressing it tbh

[lofty depot]

Damn he almost did it corrcetly

[ionic oak]

explain to me like im 5

[lofty depot]

Huh

[ionic oak]

trees are for taunting. so you dont want to use it with ca.

duh

[next sedge]

stupid question about m+
do i want to save my incarn for until i have 6 stacks of the tier set buff/the buff is about to expire or does it not really matter and i should send fury + incarn on cd regardless of stacks

[covert coyote]

the pack will be dead by the time if/when you get 6 stacks

[drifting nova]

brother in a 10 dawn just said where do I go

first time

[next sedge]

fair point

[covert coyote]

the 4p is a complete joke, it adds more ramp and falls off too quickly. You could sit and spam starfire and not get your buff refreshed

[next sedge]

sometimes i get unbelievably lucky and it feels super good but theres just far too many times it takes forever to build

[tiny ridge]

yee too hard

[next sedge]

feels like im playing fire mage but everything has a 5% chance to crit

[covert coyote]

it should've been 1-2% per stack at 100% chance per starfire, the rng part is a complete meme

[ionic oak]

send fury like normal reallyu

[drifting nova]

abandoned first key

and game crashed

[ionic oak]

if you have stacks awesome. if not. oh well send it anyways

[ionic oak]

leaver penalty for sure

[covert coyote]

just afk until key timer's over like god intended

[drifting nova]

...dh tank new to the game somehow got his key to 10 and was confused where t ogo

doomed

[drifting nova]

like of all the days

I want my 10 vaults 😡

[ionic oak]

lol i was in a key where tank and healer were fiighting and ended key but no one wanted to vote. so we stayed in there singing kumbaya

i went to make a sandwhich while in the key

[drifting nova]

the one benefit of the old system

you couldnt get to 17 having never done the dungeon

[tiny ridge]

is evoker easier in raid?

[ionic oak]

Differnt than boomie.
i think boomie is easier.
so if you have to relearn and regear, probably best to just... get more use to boomie

but if you just pugging raid. vibing out. dragon it out

[tiny ridge]

i cant paly boomkin is hard

[round field]

go play ret paladin

[tiny ridge]

i dont like paly

best druid plays starfire

[quiet drift]

Soaking puddles on Soul Hunters suck ass

https://tenor.com/view/funny-straight-face-kurt-angle-wtf-wtf-face-gif-7142534337467924370

[storm frigate]

i don't like this

[sick flame]

anyone know if the crafting+recrafting a ring trick still works to save crests?

[ionic oak]

if you want to raid with EC. go for it

[tiny ridge]

i may try different class this one hard

too much cds to care

[lofty depot]

What u mean, ur half way to greatness

[lofty depot]

Fixed last patch

Surely didn't get un-fixed

[tiny ridge]

other druid destryoing me in dps

[tiny ridge]

ye everyone is half way if u see like that

[lofty depot]

Well no, 40 parsers are 40% of the way there

[lofty depot]

Maybe he's playing correctly

[drifting nova]

you're dps, just do not

[normal pilot]

don't get too many orange parses or they won't buff us

[maiden pasture]

ye we need u to stop pumping @quiet drift

for the sake of our spec

[lofty depot]

Oh shit, he's playing wrong too

[round field]

i got rank 1 ilvl aswell

[lofty depot]

Ezpz beat him

[round field]

blasting

[maiden pasture]

[round field]

(im the only log)

[lofty depot]

Hero.log

Aurely

[maiden pasture]

wait

u have jastor equipped

what the helly

[round field]

i have fucking

BEST IN SLOT

ON 6TH BOSS MYTHIC RAID

[maiden pasture]

u high rolled

ring worked

[lofty depot]

Noob

[misty patrol]

[round field]

my ring always works

[maiden pasture]

0 passion

[round field]

i play feral

cba

[maiden pasture]

ive got a random 623 int staff sitting in my bag that i havent equipped since i looted it last week

[lofty depot]

0 pash and plays feral

[round field]

i am not farming

[maiden pasture]

opened hard mode box in boomie spec cause i already have myth polearm

[round field]

50 keys for a weapon drop

for one random boss

that isnt even hard

[lofty depot]

Dinar in 4 weeks

Locked in

[misty patrol]

We get dinars in 4 weeks

[untold ginkgo]

which one u refer?

[misty patrol]

Am i being gaslit

[round field]

dh boss

[lofty depot]

That's not what gaslit means

But ye

[vital hound]

[misty patrol]

Sounds kinda like something a gaslighter would say

[lofty depot]

I'm gonna kidnap u

And take you to church

So u can seek god

[misty patrol]

Probably for the best

[ionic oak]

good save

[drifting nova]

ground is consecrated no?

[tiny ridge]

We got buffed or something?

[lofty depot]

Some of us did

Not u tho

[misty patrol]

Lmao

[drifting nova]

I'm no longer getting declined from 3 keys below my cap, only 2 now

[scenic mist]

Sounds like a priest

[tiny ridge]

Ok

[lofty depot]

Could be a exorist

Never know

[scenic mist]

Dyslexia hitting hard

[misty patrol]

Burn the feral out of me

[tiny ridge]

Good night

[misty patrol]

Gn

[ionic oak]

bros down bad

[drifting nova]

whats that addon shows vault on alts

[misty patrol]

Alter ego

[scenic mist]

Play FL form

Will burn itself

[misty patrol]

I guess that is why people play that form

I like the purple disco one

Had to change this raid though everything purple

[scenic mist]

Disco ?

I swear if you’re talking about GotP I’m out (I don’t have it and wanna kms)

[misty patrol]

I have no clue what its called but its this just purple

[viral cliff]

raid skips being unlocked retro I hope to fuck this is intentional

because this is pog

[split remnant]

Hello all, just joined the channel today, but I am in need of some help. I am really giving us balance druids a bad name. I have been lazy and relied on HeKili for my rotations, but now that has severely let me down

is this right place to ask for help?

[ionic oak]

yes

[split remnant]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/cenarion-circle/edoren/

[willow bone]

Any tips on how to make single-target damage better in M+? I feel like my AoE is alright for the keys I run, but on bosses I'm really lacking.

[split remnant]

and here is a parse from Fractillus last night.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/N4FZnDGk7WjxbVBA?fight=6&type=damage-done&source=10

[willow bone]

Should I be spending AP on starfire even when in CA on single target bosses in M+? (running elune's chosen)

[maiden pasture]

starfire is not a spender

it is a builder

[pseudo pawn]

i'm dumb, i read custom apl here

[thick badge]

honest question why araz is S tier this trinket is literally wrost in every aspect to the lily on this spec

[delicate perch]

?

No?

[loud kettle]

It increases the cap for 4p

[ebon pulsar]

if I don't have a mythic weapon yet but have crafted off-hand and heroic kris + bracers already. should i craft a mythic weapon this week?

[delicate perch]

What kind of napkin math with 0 idea are you cooking with that

[loud kettle]

So its literally not worse in every way

[round field]

how is 30k intellect worse than shitty priory?

[thick badge]

uhhh makes sense

[round field]

lilly is just poor mans signet...

[delicate perch]

Dungeon trinkets

[round field]

ya they kinda blow

[dry compass]

still no tuning we're cooked arent we

[thick badge]

dunno, lily still outsims araz

thats sacbrood myth track and others are heroic

[round field]

ur doing something wrong

[dry compass]

if lilly outsims araz your gear is a mess or your sim is wrong

[round field]

5 min 5 target ec st build sim

[stone ledge]

In ec lily is better imo, araz beats lily in kotg cause of the cap

[lofty depot]

Show sim

[thick badge]

[drifting nova]

how good is ec 4p

[round field]

show the sim

not a screenshot

3.7m

ur actually simming

ec aoe build in single target or something

[thick badge]

patch 1 boss 5 min

patchwerk 5 bosses 3 min

[round field]

what are u even doing

[ionic oak]

cooking

meth

[round field]

this is ragebait

[viral cliff]

they have tech you just dont know yet

[round field]

i will not interact

[viral cliff]

also I enjoy ritual forge as a forge haver its

[thick badge]

garbajo trinket

[delicate perch]

lol

[viral cliff]

I dont have to flip a table anymore either now that I finally got soul hunter boots and didnt lose it to a sub rogue whos POV was floor

[dense pulsar]

fellas im really demotivated to play balance rn, do i just switch to feral or bite the bullet and keep pushing as far as i can

[viral cliff]

play what you enjoy

feral is riding a good high from down from so long

[tender elbow]

Don’t worry, balance is getting buffed soon. Artic promised

[viral cliff]

if it doesnt crucify me

[dense pulsar]

[ruby flicker]

do y'all sim antenna at 0% or 20% er

[quiet drift]

Whichever the default is

[stone ledge]

10% all raid minus king and dimmadome I put it to 30-40%

[maiden pasture]

its so hard to distinguish ragebait in balance chat fr

[thick badge]

[craggy sonnet]

araz is not better for EC

but its miles better for kotg

after 4p

[thick badge]

yeah i figured it out ty

[lofty depot]

why are we simming with last tier damage numbys

[delicate perch]

[dense steeple]

lets go?

[maiden pasture]

thats a nice antnna

[dense steeple]

the top 6 items are all upgrades xd

[maiden pasture]

ye but that ring has haste on it

stinky

[dense steeple]

true

either way antenna seems no brainer

[maiden pasture]

i think so

[dense steeple]

repalce mugz jugz

[round field]

i have

triple mythic vault

surely i get something usable?

[dry compass]

it's like 7k mastery and 1k haste

so fuckin easy to fit into a gearset

[dense steeple]

youre both crazy

[dry compass]

even keeper doesn't want zero haste

[trail hinge]

banger vault

[dense steeple]

one ring is crit > haste, the other is mastery > vers

[maiden pasture]

3 tier pieces have haste, ur gonna have haste dw

[dry compass]

oh is that the plexus ring

and not the araz one

[dense steeple]

oh theres a 3rd ring xd

[loud kettle]

no im crazy

[dry compass]

they're both logic gate something

i dont know which is which

[dense steeple]

that one is crit > mast

[maiden pasture]

isnt that a hc ring

[dense steeple]

the first two i listed were dungeon rings in order at myth track, that last one is the raid hero track ring

[maiden pasture]

who cares about rings anyway, theres an antenna there lol

[dry compass]

pretty much

[dense steeple]

TRUE

not even upgrading it that trinket is 70k uppies

[dry compass]

3pm at blizz

pretty safe to say no tuning today

zzz

[round field]

We knew that long ago

[delicate perch]

No shot you still thought there was a chance

Reset was 7 hours ago with no posting

[dry compass]

if they had blueposted the araz nerfs i'd agree with you

so long as they were datamined and no blue post there was always hopium that the blue post was waiting for tuning notes

[round field]

Sure

[outer wolf]

so void glass spire is poop even with the trinket?

[round field]

That trinket very dookie for balance

[dry compass]

trinket maybe playable in M+ but it's bad bad bad for raid

[quiet drift]

Anyone got fixed sim timer string for Raidbots

[round field]

Use search function mby?

[loud kettle]

vary_combat_length=0

[quiet drift]

ty papi

[round field]

Gj

[quiet drift]

Look iqnous...

[round field]

Spoonfeeding newfrogs instead of teaching them

[quiet drift]

you could be helpful like him...

[round field]

How to use brain

Fucking ferals

[maiden pasture]

give man fish teach man to fish

something like that

[loud kettle]

i tried using search function and it didnt go well /shrug

[maiden pasture]

search function on simcraft wiki

[lofty depot]

thats my bis

[loud kettle]

that i didnt bother since i just have it memorized

[vital hound]

holy heck

[ionic oak]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[digital berry]

Fuck you

[lofty depot]

FIRST TRY LFG

18 RENOWN LOCK IN

this is the week

[true viper]

hi @eager raft

[craggy sonnet]

SO SLOW .. EZ 18 LAST RESET

[regal solar]

hi guys what would you pick? trinket or ring? i have arakara egg and soleah secret both heroic track and my rings are hero track too: Whispers of k'aresh and Void scarred circle. Raidbots sims it both close but idk if pick ring and keep farming eco trinket or pick trinket and farm the ring in halls

[craggy sonnet]

long term you can craft a ring

but you are not guaranteed a lily again

do with that what you will

considering you do not seem to be raiding

lily and parapodia are likely your best trinkets

[maiden pasture]

dub

is myth parapodia better than hc antenna

doubt it

[craggy sonnet]

in m+?

i think so

[eager raft]

hey 🙂

[lofty depot]

doubt

[craggy sonnet]

show proof

[stone ledge]

Maybe if the miss chance is 40+% copium

[wicked shuttle]

Can just do an mdt sim

[craggy sonnet]

yea

dont wanna login to get an ec string tho

[wicked shuttle]

Fair

[drowsy zenith]

is there a reason a heroic logic gate alpha with gems and enchants is worse than my 675 crafted rings that have the same gems/enchants with 3k haste and master

i have not been able to get a single ring all season atp i just want one for the ilvl boost

[digital berry]

Send sim link

[craggy sonnet]

uhhh, waht are these ring icons?

[lofty depot]

gear compare bad

[digital berry]

Double crafted

[lofty depot]

dont use it

[craggy sonnet]

they do not look like the normal crafted ring right?

[drowsy zenith]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gwRcQtVtuLHjoAkZ3M9VEg

this is the link

[digital berry]

Yeah use top gear

[craggy sonnet]

anyways

you are simming EC and EC likes haste

your new ring has no haste

and EC also likes mastery

your new ring has less mastery

[digital berry]

ok but like

707 beating 675

[craggy sonnet]

but yes, use top gear

[digital berry]

i guess its rings

no int

[craggy sonnet]

if its the wrong secondaries

then that can be a big swing

[drowsy zenith]

other option is mythic head i have maxed champ

[craggy sonnet]

there is no way you would ever pick a hero ring

over myth tier piece

[drifting nova]

wrong

[craggy sonnet]

btw

[drifting nova]

clanker spouting falsehoods again smh

[craggy sonnet]

??

EXPLAIN YOURSELF

FIEND

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/my-job-here-is-done-bye-done-gif-14879937

[wild dune]

[dense steeple]

now i can finally play the game

[drifting nova]

20? get a life wtf

it's 5 this week

bozo

[dense steeple]

literally like 5 of my raid team got it too 🙂

[craggy sonnet]

@lofty depot never doubt me again

[short swallow]

is the belt sim bait or do i really not replace it until 5/6 mythic raid belt?

[dense steeple]

follow robot

[drifting nova]

follow vibes

[short swallow]

so its not sim bait? ok.

[drifting nova]

just remember the luddites were right

[dense steeple]

just remember it is morally correct to always ignore kekkers

[drifting nova]

german are we?

hate humour? I get it

no funny bone on you

[dense steeple]

humor makes me sick

[drifting nova]

casual german response

except it'd be like ge I know the word

but prob get automodded idk

[ionic oak]

I saw that

[hollow birch]

What a great/terrible day

[dense steeple]

look at me i get myth track soul hunter loot in vault and myth track araz

[drifting nova]

you appeared to have skipped delves

[hollow birch]

my bad

[ionic oak]

Lol

For reals

“So terrible being me. Ugh”

[drifting nova]

the myth boots being 50% is kinda nuts

[ionic oak]

Easy claps trinket tho

[drifting nova]

if I know how numbers work

[hollow birch]

I mean its great I got the items but it sucks to choose lmao

[drifting nova]

flip a coin

[dense steeple]

take trinket offer to sit every time, ez

[winter spear]

lets cry about having the biggest upgrade for the class inside of the vault!

[drifting nova]

take boots

[hollow birch]

who said I was crying 💀💀

[ionic oak]

We said it. Cuz we hate you

Jk though

[hollow birch]

fair

[drifting nova]

clearly not a support main with that

[ionic oak]

Hate to see others live your dreams

[winter spear]

HUH Morgana jngl is real bro

[drifting nova]

disgusting

used to like morg, needed a rework 14 eons ago

[winter spear]

i love that champ

one of my mains xD

but never played her sup

LUL

[drifting nova]

naut jung is playable now no? been free for a year idk

[winter spear]

yy

[drifting nova]

the true support

[wanton dagger]

Balance druid not supported on dungeon slice raidbots?

[lucid olive]

Never has been

[wanton dagger]

whats the best way to sim for dungeons/aoe builds

[lucid olive]

Read FAQ in Compendium linked in pins and channel description

[drifting nova]

nerf raid?

[lofty depot]

HUH

what i doubt

[scenic mist]

i read pins

last one is...

not aging well

[upbeat flume]

are heroic soul hunter boots gonna be better than any non soulhunter mythic boots?

[maiden pasture]

rate the casts chat

[dense steeple]

AINT NO WAY

[maiden pasture]

most likely yes

[dense steeple]

caps lock

[scenic mist]

most probably

[upbeat flume]

ty, just wanted to double check before simming vault

[wind mason]

im getting 3 hoa wipes in a row cant even get my port to reset

people vote so fast

[cunning basin]

is there an addon that shows what i should get from vault

[wind mason]

you can sim it

[ocean oasis]

So when does this channel get locked in order for us to get our buff?

[cunning basin]

tyty

[scenic mist]

you have a "select all vault items" option in topgear

and it's intelligent enough to not suggest several items together

[cunning basin]

i screwed it up already lol, i picked a hero chestpiece but i dont have the thread to convert it to a set piece

.>

[scenic mist]

happens
anyway now you know for future vaults

[cunning basin]

all good tyvm 🙂

[craggy sonnet]

myth para being better than hc antenna for dungeons

[abstract spruce]

Are you saying we hit like a...ret noodle?

[grand radish]

Are we allowed to post sims and asks questions about them in here?

[grand radish]

I'm trying to sim for elune/m+ between three trinkets, lily, parapodia, and so'leahs

I was under the impression lily and parapodia were both better, but soleah's is simming the best of the three. wanted to check and see if sims for these are accurate or if i messed anything up

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iqayxGkZXHZRw2UwUhdWqu

specifically the sim is telling me to drop parapodia for soleahs

[normal pilot]

short multitarget sims like that generally gives meaningless results

there's a FAQ in compendium in pins if you want to sim m+

[grand radish]

woah, you can sim using routes?

that is crazy

[lofty depot]

oh sure

[grand radish]

Sorry, last question, where do I paste this keystone guru generated string?

"Custom APL and SimC Options" doesn't seem to accept it

[normal pilot]

click the export mode box

[grand radish]

How do I know where to seperate it into header, base player, etc?

[normal pilot]

footer is fine

[grand radish]

gotcha, ty. Also I assume for simming soleahs it sims all 4 possible stats?

[normal pilot]

there's a dropdown for selecting which stat, but you'll have to sim each separately

it's gonna be mastery tho

maybe haste on offchance. won't be vers or ccrit

[grand radish]

gotcha, tysm

[craggy sonnet]

not unlikely to be haste in m+

[craggy sonnet]

also make sure to sim on "SimC Version" = "Latest"

always

[safe egret]

are wrists or legs crafted?

[lofty depot]

GREATTTTTTTTTTTTTT

time to fix gems againnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[little sphinx]

personally im gonna wait till next week, if i get myth amulet, i'll craft a ring, and the other way around, but personal preference i guess

[wind mason]

wrist maybe, if you want to apply embellish on it, but pants there are plenty replacement

[lofty depot]

wrists are generally craft

[craggy sonnet]

you also have kinda weird enchants and gems .. so i would recommend you trying to run a replacement sim

[lofty depot]

u dont have good empty slots and u can send an enchanted runed crest on it and use gilded on better slots

[maiden pasture]

whats the soft cap? are you not above soft cap? this ammount of stats dont make sense to me

[grand radish]

Anything in particular stand out?

[craggy sonnet]

weapon and ring

we do not run auth of the depths even on ST now

and cursed mastery is likely to be worse than just normal mastery at the very least in raid

and you are also running a blasphemite gem but only a single gem color

[lofty depot]

we outside with it

[tall creek]

what yall crafting this week?

[lofty depot]

bracer 704

[grand radish]

ty gamer

basically just blindly followed wowhead

I will adjust

damn with so many combos im tempted to pay for premium raidbots lol

[craggy sonnet]

huge QoL

[drifting nova]

too broke for 720?

[scenic mist]

sending 60 gilded into bracers... typical kekkers move

[drifting nova]

I dont even craft

so

[lofty depot]

idk where u at dawg

[drifting nova]

au naturel

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879

[drifting nova]

in the raid wbu

got the portable bench?

[scenic mist]

sent the new reset 90 gilded already ?

[drifting nova]

not evne done a delve to get the smol gilded

didnt get a 10 this week either, big sad

[scenic mist]

you're just not playing the game at this point

[drifting nova]

what can I say

I'm a gamer

not a wow player

[lofty depot]

ye

the only mythic item thats big is soul hunters boots and araz

and weere not killing soul hunters this week

and i aint getting araz

[scenic mist]

how so

how many hours do you guys raid/week ?

[storm frigate]

my best roll in this weeks heroic run was a 21

[lofty depot]

3d3h

[craggy sonnet]

why are you not getting soul hunters?

[storm frigate]

is it worth praying for a kris or just crafting a MH dagger?

[scenic mist]

i mean
you would reclear + kill fractillus tonight

leaves you 6 hours of hunters prog

definitely feasible

[craggy sonnet]

at the very least its like 5hours or so of prog

[scenic mist]

i mean if you're doing heroic too it might be tight

[craggy sonnet]

considering you might do some shenanigans on reclear

[lofty depot]

yea surely we dont troll araz tonight

[scenic mist]

no way

[lofty depot]

surelyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

uhh idk if were kiling dimmy

might just kill soul hunters and dipset

[craggy sonnet]

wdym?

dimmy bad

i think if someone gets a lockout with a twink they dont care about

to extend every week

you just go and kill loom+forgeweaver+soul hunters

on hc

[scenic mist]

i thought you said hunters would take minimum 5 hours of prog, said no way to that (could be way faster, the boss isnt that hard at all)
but maybe you were saying they'll have that much time minimum this week ?

[craggy sonnet]

yeee, that much time to prog

if they dont get full reclear done in one night

which is not unlikely

[steel saddle]

hey guys can i get help ❤️
note:- i dont have Mythic staff i have heroic one

[craggy sonnet]

why do you have a heroic staff 😭

what did you craft

[steel saddle]

i did a big mistake by craft 2 emb item ... 🙁

[grand radish]

Follow up question about gems/ench

What do you do if your highest simming gems and enchants is different for m+/raid but on the same gear?

[lofty depot]

get different neck and rings

[grand radish]

I imagine stick with the ST stuff since it carries over more?

[craggy sonnet]

basically what arctic said

for enchants, its pretty much only the weap

[lofty depot]

why are we making mistakes

[craggy sonnet]

and there i'd just go with mastery if close enough since thats good for both

[lofty depot]

that staff isnt good

[craggy sonnet]

and gems + ring enchants is solved by having accessories with different stats for both m+ and raid

[steel saddle]

sorry bro 🙁

[digital berry]

bro i need the plex belt at 5/6 mythic to outdps the BELT

[delicate perch]

simply obtain it

[vagrant prawn]

is it weird that a 720 crafted belt is worse than the BELT or is that normal?

[lofty depot]

one of those belts has an effect

[vagrant prawn]

true just sad that I have to take a socket for my vault and im trying to cope

[somber path]

best are vault belts be glad there are no vault cloaks

[digital berry]

im not tryna waste that many gilded this week on a belt

i traded it to someone else in raid after getting it

[lofty depot]

i got bad news for u

in a few weeks ur trying to get 5 slots rolling out of 60.... and most people arent gonna win that roll

[vagrant prawn]

[digital berry]

we did it boiz

[craggy sonnet]

how are you getting that item

[digital berry]

sucking everybody on the LC off

[craggy sonnet]

shady business with the loot council?

nice

[digital berry]

im probably just gonna send 30 crests into this and the other 60 of the week craft ring

[viral cliff]

so my rng is fucked won a heroic antenna on a tie

[dense steeple]

ALPHABETICAL IN YOUR FAVOR?

what is this

[viral cliff]

also fairly sure raid skip is just broke right now. if you die after unlocking it. you just release at salad bar

[digital berry]

Does the antenna orb just chase you around or does it travel to you from where it spawns and if you miss you don’t get it

Like can you dodge it

[digital berry]

But also last week 4 people got it in vault that needed it I just remembered

[dense steeple]

you can dodge it but dont try to

they do chase for a time

[digital berry]

this has been known for a while

[digital berry]

i was just wondering if their path is a straight line or if they actually chase thanks

[dense steeple]

chase:)

[delicate perch]

surely use free hero craft crest and send them into literally anything else lmfao

60 crests a 14ilvl ring

[digital berry]

i have jastors and champ track logic omega

[delicate perch]

?

[digital berry]

i cannot grind m+

[delicate perch]

did you read or

[digital berry]

i already used free hero craft for bracers

[delicate perch]

[digital berry]

im gonna sim it and see whats better

[lofty depot]

waited 2 hours for 0.1%

smh

[dense steeple]

[digital berry]

lul

same gear

[dense steeple]

i have 3pc mythtrack

and 4th is in bags for catalyst next week

[grand radish]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sGHcvNzKVdyjwZUrEx6mf8

Any idea why weapon enchant sim doesnt say to swap?

[digital berry]

my chest is champ track

[lofty depot]

@ frosstm dm me

hm

this is crazy

[teal sphinx]

@delicate perch when are they gonna remove embellishments?

[lofty depot]

so many questions

[delicate perch]

[delicate perch]

never. they're doubling down in midnight and making crafted gear 10% better than any mythic loot gg

[lofty depot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/14ibePkmMBz39ZeBt16sMs

see u in an hour

[craggy sonnet]

bwahahaha

[delicate perch]

[craggy sonnet]

only an hour

gg

[delicate perch]

I'm hatwatching it

[teal sphinx]

shit is so bad

[grand radish]

oh shit

did you giga sim every possible gem/enchant combo

lmao

[lofty depot]

no

but i did however change ur crafted stats and probably the correct gems and the weapon enchant

surely gain like 2%

[craggy sonnet]

hope you didnt mess this up

you dork

[lofty depot]

meh, cant be any worse than what i saw in that original sim

[craggy sonnet]

true

actually, i saw the belt and cloak

[vagrant prawn]

is there a point where crit and haste become better than mastery for Keeper?

[craggy sonnet]

dont know why i didnt remember to comment on that

[lofty depot]

haste no

[craggy sonnet]

crit yes .. haste very unlikely

[lofty depot]

well crit no either

mastery will always be ur biggest

[craggy sonnet]

thats not true

[lofty depot]

crit/vers 2nd

[craggy sonnet]

thats not what they are saying

there is a point where you would enchant crit instead of mastery on a ring or something

[lofty depot]

they didnt say enchant in that sentence

[craggy sonnet]

enchant is example

[dry compass]

ethical soulbinder gameplay

[lofty depot]

nt bucko

[craggy sonnet]

the value of 1 crit can be bigger than 1 mastery

[grand radish]

Could you elaborate? I was thinking my stuff was atleast decently optimized

[lofty depot]

did u guys do a coll strat

[lofty depot]

keeper doesnt like haste

[dry compass]

normal strat just good killtime

boss died like 30s after my second pot/doubleCA

[lofty depot]

cursed mastery enchants are wrong

we generally like stats

ur belt enchant thingy is wrong, maybe ok for m+

[dry compass]

im still stuck witht his cursed shit so im not parsing 99s without perfect fight length lmao

[lofty depot]

we did a funny strat last week

[craggy sonnet]

OH

now i remember why i didnt comment

the initial sim was for EC, no?

[lofty depot]

no?

[craggy sonnet]

yes

[craggy sonnet]

here

[still prism]

Do feral and balance perform about the same this raid tier? Simming gives me about the same dps in both specs when both specs have prio stats (for strictly st). I imagine the fights are really rough on balance while feral has a much easier time cleaving

[lofty depot]

this is fugnn 2 hours ago??? intialy sim

[dry compass]

feral slightly better

[lofty depot]

fuggn

[dry compass]

but both are lower-half specs

[still prism]

/cry

[craggy sonnet]

i didnt click the other link

[wispy yacht]

Feral better on most fights, Warcraft logs has good info on it

[lofty depot]

im currently having no experience in the "really rough" department

id assume melee are not having fun tho

[still prism]

I saw feral was out performing balance, but I guess I'm not quite sure how to read the ranking/numbers haha.

I'll take a look again tonight

THank you guys

[digital berry]

feral is outperforming balance on all fights probably just not many good feral players out there

k idk about soulhunters

[lofty depot]

thats a matter of perspective

[lofty depot]

well thats not true

[still prism]

I mean, is it? When we're looking at raw data against perfect sims? I mean there IS an answer to this question

[lofty depot]

that would imply that the middle of the pack boomkin/feral is worse than the other

theyre both pretty much in the same problem

[delicate perch]

both trolling playing the orange class when they could grey parse as a warlock and beat the 99% boomkins

[lofty depot]

YEP

[wispy yacht]

At 75th percentile, feral does more damage on every fight in mythic (and H dimmy) except Forgeweaver on WCL. Not conclusive, but it is something

[lofty depot]

yea but thats cuz i havent killed soulhunters and fractilly

[wispy yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/supa-hot-fire-end-this-mans-whole-career-diss-rap-battle-gif-15687941

[digital berry]

@lofty depot bro delaying cds for 24 seconds is so cringe

[lofty depot]

?

[digital berry]

araz

[lofty depot]

lock in

[digital berry]

on pull

[lofty depot]

yea so what

[digital berry]

i hate it

[lofty depot]

why is it cringe

[digital berry]

its just padding

[lofty depot]

no

[digital berry]

also i dont understand the math on how you actually get double ca on 2nd dmg amp

[lofty depot]

im ethically doing my rotation correctly in a manner that happens to hit adds as well

its shrimple

if u press CA at 320

[digital berry]

cause i didnt last week

[lofty depot]

its up earlier

[digital berry]

or like barely did

i just chickened out

[digital berry]

i can see that you got it i am just not computing how

[lofty depot]

do u not run potent

[craggy sonnet]

fool

[lofty depot]

do u care more about m+

if so this sim isnt gonna matter

[lofty depot]

hes not a knower

[craggy sonnet]

no i meant you

[lofty depot]

wtf

[craggy sonnet]

you CA'd 2nd intermission as well?

[digital berry]

ofc i do

[lofty depot]

yea did u see our boss health

[craggy sonnet]

no

[grand radish]

I care about both a lot but I am going for my first CE so I guess thats prio huh

[lofty depot]

was 20%

[young stirrup]

hello good sir, what did they do to our spec? I thought it was looking good in pbe.

[lofty depot]

we killed too fast :/

our amp was 5 seconds

[craggy sonnet]

but you should have done "new" double CA

instead

if you know you wont hit 2nd CA surges

[lofty depot]

uhhh

i assumed i wouldnt get most of hte 2nd ca in it

[craggy sonnet]

doesnt matter

its probably more dmg

after amp

and makes fight shorter

[lofty depot]

hmm

[lofty depot]

think collector died to ofast too

[thick badge]

[lyric ginkgo]

is this big?

[normal pilot]

no, and it's also old news

[craggy sonnet]

you just need to make sure the amp is long enough to get your 2nd CA out after convoke and the 2 surges

[lofty depot]

is old

[dry compass]

its useless for raid and it's notes of a fix they pushed a few days ago

[normal pilot]

mostly useless in m+ too, maybe 1-2% max

[lofty depot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/14ibePkmMBz39ZeBt16sMs

future refernce, u shouldnt be sending gilded into hero items

u should have enough runed by now to upgrade every hero piece to 4/6

same thing here

stop using gilded on it

if ur gonna put gilded somewhere put it here

or here

well probably weapon, i dint notice right away when spamming

but sim it

[plain mist]

thats painful to see

[grand radish]

This is telling me to take 3 masterful emeralds and 0 quick onyx?

[lofty depot]

whats the problem

[grand radish]

those are haste gems, don't I not want haste?

vs onyx mast

[lofty depot]

probably in a funny area of want some

its not like i dont have haste gems

i just dont have a lot of haste

[craggy sonnet]

st kotg with 4p does not like haste at all

[grand radish]

interesting, so the stats kinda have diminishing returns after a certain amount

is that normal for most classes?

[craggy sonnet]

this has nothing to do with diminishing returns

[grand radish]

thanks for working with me but i super do not understand lol

[craggy sonnet]

oh, i guess i misread

[grand radish]

If diminishing returns arent a thing why does sim say worst stat for gems instead of more mast?

doesnt run even a single onyx

[craggy sonnet]

click on show gem/enchant variations

its prolly all within variance

why did you only sim vers belt

arctic

[grand radish]

i imagine for st critical chain i best lol

[craggy sonnet]

depends

[karmic root]

with new 4pc are we still using foe on cd?

[digital berry]

crit belt sims lower

for me

[wild dune]

Yes

If pack is about to die you hold like always, but playing around the awful buff doesn't work out too well usually.

[lofty depot]

who said dr wasnt a thing

its just not something u need to actively think about because the robot tells u what will do more

[grand radish]

alr im gunna buy premium

[lofty depot]

just because haste is "the worst stat"

[grand radish]

so much nuance involved, i think its worth

[lofty depot]

doesnt mean u want 0

[grand radish]

gotcha

ty for all the help

[vital hound]

i fucking hate this shit man

they actually cooked us so bad

[lofty depot]

its definately a thing

[stone ledge]

big paddaa

[plush obsidian]

hey guys, for example on soulbinder, do i just single target the boss until the big adds come out? i feel like dotting or using starfall on the little adds is a waste but im not sure

[lofty depot]

the only adds u dot are the ones in intermission

u dot teh ones from the canisters ur trolling

[plush obsidian]

ok thats what i thought. and its worth to go EC for that?

[lofty depot]

ec cringe

[plush obsidian]

oh, archon showed more people go EC for that

[delicate perch]

what's with peoples love for playing the wrong hero talent for the wrong reasons

[plush obsidian]

i guess thats wrong?

[lofty depot]

damn he was trolling too

[lofty depot]

i mena more people do be playing EC

that doesnt mean its not cringe

[plush obsidian]

okay tyty for answering

[plush obsidian]

i dont starfall for the canister adds either right?

[lofty depot]

they dont live long enough

[plush obsidian]

ok cool

[lofty depot]

damn people love wasting gilded