balance

[maiden pasture]

fair

[lofty depot]

and then doing it

[pallid bay]

missed surge

-1 dryads favor

[proven swallow]

Is it the stats or what?

[lofty depot]

we go afk after casting convoke

[maiden pasture]

this is during push back in intermission

i think

[pallid bay]

these trees are kinda late in eclipse

and u have no gcds for the wc

[lofty depot]

1 eel

[maiden pasture]

guess im just

not casting enough

and the trees mid eclipse thing for sure

[lofty depot]

ur crits are also like 20% less dam than mine

[maiden pasture]

my gears not great tbf

like lily + last tier heroic jug + last tier legs still

this is my 3rd guy

[vital hound]

[loud kettle]

That affix is cringe anyway

If it dies it dies

[lucid olive]

for sure the worst affix

[warm briar]

Better question is how is the ele sham below you in dps? Is he naked?

[digital berry]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-stealth-buffs-to-mythic-bosses-last-week-mythic-raid-tuning-hotfixes-378378

[maiden pasture]

cc one 100% worse

[lucid olive]

yeah youre probably right

cc one is ass

[lucid olive]

well at least it looks like they fixed the druid no abilities bug

[maiden pasture]

wtf even is the druid no abilities bug

wtf is that

[lucid olive]

if you got MCd and died

some of your spells just stop working

until you relog

[maiden pasture]

[lucid olive]

actually not sure if even relog fixes it

i know Nurfed has guardian druids and they had it happen

and had to sub in BDK

because the druids taunt stopped working

[maiden pasture]

[sudden pawn]

my mark of the wild stopped working, the only reason im there

(im also there because i am handsome and cute)

[delicate perch]

[sudden pawn]

[unborn lion]

hello guys, i have problem using , for select, my gear to keys, don't let me used in fight style, Dungeon Slice, don't not now how to get a decent gear for keys, any tips please

[unborn lion]

what is 1t5 lazy sim, and how i get that? please

[mighty mica]

1 target 5 minute duration patchwerk

generally considered the standard fight style

[unborn lion]

oh thanks

[simple kernel]

Hey ob aoe how do you use the tierset more less

[lofty depot]

which one

[glass geyser]

i need some help with my gear / stats and rotation. I do not think I am doing as much dps as I should be doing. What information do you all need?

[lofty depot]

a log

[lofty depot]

why people ask questions then go afk

[stone ledge]

hey can you help me learn this rotation (leaves discord)

[torpid skiff]

Is there any sort of list of all the useful spells/debuffs that can be evaded by meld in s3 ?

[late topaz]

there's a weak aura

[torpid skiff]

sounds nice, can i have a link 👀

i only see some random one for s2 wih 17 installs

[late topaz]

https://wago.io/yQd0o-lhO

that's the one i'm trying at the moment

[torpid skiff]

thanks!

it even uses spell IDs and not names god bless the creator

so many weakauras just refused to work because spell names were hardcoded in english

can't we meld the interrogation cast on 1st boss of streets ?

[lofty depot]

it goes to a new person but yes

[azure edge]

How much Dmg increase are the Boots for the cloak? Are the Boots in Hc still better then other Boots in Mythic?

[lofty depot]

sim it

[azure edge]

Hm k

To sim is always the best way hm? 🤔😅

[digital berry]

Yea

We do not know what exact items you have

The robot does when you tell it

[azure edge]

😉

Ok I sim ist later.

[lofty depot]

never take someones word for whats right

do tests

[azure edge]

X

*y

[lofty depot]

z

[patent girder]

Hey guys, aside from the sim telling me that Lily is 6k dps better than Signet, what is your guys personal prefference in dungeons?

[lofty depot]

lily will line up closer to incarns

[wicked shuttle]

Lily is easier to play

Yeah

[lofty depot]

bit easier to play

im playing araz and having no issues tho 🙂

[patent girder]

People keep stealing mine :<

Thanks

[void marsh]

guys with 4pc do we play around the stacks of gathering moonlight? or do we just simply put fury of elune on cd regardless of how many stacks we have?

[upper anvil]

On cd

[wicked shuttle]

Only consideration ever is if you end a trash pack with a few stacks and they’ll fall off before you’d naturally press it in a trash pack

You rip it before dotting with MF

[torpid skiff]

since that guy will not respond - i will lol
I think I'm like 80% there but definately missing smth. Almost always 3d dps but not by an embarrassing amount. Especially on bosses
here's a log from helping a friend with a lower key,Im top here but just because two other guys were even more pepega. Would love any notes
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TQn8FgWRkpv4NjLd?fight=last

[lofty depot]

wasting dreamsatte stacks

foe should be before incarn

dot after incarn fades those 3 globals couldve been 1-2 starfires

[wicked shuttle]

How many mobs was that pull?

[lofty depot]

no need to reenter eclipse before incarning

idk its first pull priory

so like 20

[lofty depot]

not 20

13

[torpid skiff]

yeah it was some weird route

[lofty depot]

again were casting dots in incarn

[wicked shuttle]

Well it was more that he was dotting like it’s a 20 mob pull

[lofty depot]

tank doing some funny stuff with miniboss i presume

[wicked shuttle]

You pressed Moonfire too many times I noticed on the first oull

Lemme look at future pulls

It’s kind of rare to be dotting too much

It it does look like you’re wasting a few GCDs to just slamming dots for fun

[torpid skiff]

yea i tend to abuse twin moons by pressing moonfire again on the same mob so it spreads to the nearby one if i only see 1 missing

[lofty depot]

whats also odd is this

[torpid skiff]

or if i need to move from some aoe

[torpid skiff]

just spam dots when running

[lofty depot]

u had miniboss + 3 or seomthing

then pulled another like 2

[upper anvil]

Are we not suppose to dot majority adds that havw decent health during pull?

Say trash packs with 100m hp mobs

[wicked shuttle]

Ah yeah this can be bad if you dont actually have the pack fully dotted -1 mob

[lofty depot]

never said u shouldnt dot those

hes just dotting excessively

and while in cds

[upper anvil]

Ah

[wicked shuttle]

Sometimes you can give up on dotting. Like first pull of arakara, but it’s generally bad advice

[lofty depot]

if u send cds on 20 mobs and 3 mobs get pulled

[wicked shuttle]

Especially to new players

[lofty depot]

why are u worried about the 3 mobs

cast starfire

[torpid skiff]

yea the while in CDs part is because tank pulled 4-5 mobs, i dot and pop cds and then he pulls another 3-4 so i have to dot there right

[upper anvil]

Ye. First ara pull is kinda bad besides the 200m+ ho ones

I just moonrise the beefier ones then just do the other one

[wicked shuttle]

You definitely should try to dot them

[lofty depot]

u shouldve waited for eclipse to end

[wicked shuttle]

You have like 40s of travel time

[lofty depot]

and or... idk i maybe dont send here

[upper anvil]

Everytime i do try. I get aggro

And get bonked

[torpid skiff]

hm. okay yea makes sense

okay, any notes on boss dps? esp the 2d boss where its pure st

i feel like i do dogwater dps on that

[lofty depot]

ehh probably do idk....

idk u know hes pulling all this

just dot everything while running, u entered eclipse then it kinda fucks the timing

[wicked shuttle]

Not like it’s a good cop out or anything, but moonkin does awful st in m+ rn

[lofty depot]

dreamstate stacks >

u got 4 starfires in that incarn

thats seem egreiously low

[wicked shuttle]

I’m pretty sure you normally get like 8 or 9 or something

[torpid skiff]

idk ive been looking at hopeful's vods and his boomy does decent ST

[torpid skiff]

on the level or arcane give or take

[lofty depot]

macro vigil to incarn and stop thinking about it

yea ur actively getting like 6 starfires in incarn because ur wasting dreamstate stacks

[torpid skiff]

dreamstate is the out of combat thing right

[upper anvil]

Its the entering combat and getting out of eclipse

You get 2 stacks entering combat and getting our of lunar

[void marsh]

I see, good to know. Tettles, do you happen to have a WA that tells how many stacks of gathering moonlight i have? atm i only have one that tells me how many stacks of moonlight suffision i have which is from the naowh package ui

[lofty depot]

yes, but gets used on wrath or starfire cast

and ur doing so while in combat

[torpid skiff]

so when i enter combat what are my 2 first globals then? I dont seem to get that part how am i wasting stacks

[lofty depot]

so ur using the stacks which could be used at the start of incarn with starfire

[wicked shuttle]

i just use the dsune hud and it has it as a part of it, but no i dont have one on hand

[lofty depot]

dsune hud, hm

[upper anvil]

First pull in most dungeons yoy dot every mob ideally with moon then sun when they're group. Pop foe. Incar and pot and stuff. Starfalls. But starfish with 2 dreamstates

[lofty depot]

what r u melding on boss

[wicked shuttle]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2553815405?t=00h27m00s he's literally doing like 10% less ST than hopeful on the same boss you were talking about. I'm not saying it as a cop out, but moonkin generally speaking isn't fantastic single target rn. Dwilkz is the goat fr though

in those timelines that arctic keeps on linking you keep using your FOE after incarn

that's just wasting a global in your incarn

really bad

[torpid skiff]

Can you explain the dreamstate thing like im 5,I think im being dumb.
when i exit eclipse or enter combat i get 2 stacks of fast sf/wrath
arent those always just used on two wrath's to enter eclipse?
or do you mean I waste it when i have incarn, i dont enter eclipse manually , rip incarn and spend on starfires?

[lofty depot]

bad global in incarn

[lofty depot]

ok so u get this buff right

and it make spell cast faster

when u press wrath before incarn it uses those 2 chargess on a piss noodle called wrath instead of big donger starfire

big donger > piss noodle

[torpid skiff]

yea i got that part, no idea why i was doing this

[lofty depot]

its bad to send this incarn

u now dont have it for one of the biggest pulls in the dungeon

[torpid skiff]

is this only true for when i have incarn available or do i spend on two startfires even outside incarn

[void marsh]

@lofty depot do you happen to have a good one by any chance? 😄

[lofty depot]

it comes up 20 seconds wrong

good what

[upper anvil]

Do we always send starfire with dreamstatss even if we're out of lunar? Ik ideally we incar. But assuming foe is on cd is it ever worth just pressing incar instead of 2 wrath

[lofty depot]

well u could do it at the start of other packs

but its giga important for incarn

ur getting 5 starfires in incarn

when i get 8-9

[torpid skiff]

yea i got that part

[void marsh]

WA thats shows how many stacks of gathering moonlights i have

[lofty depot]

no u want to be in lunar, if u do it like a chad u can save one if pre wrath

but again, im mainly talking about incarn

[lofty depot]

oibalance pack >

[upper anvil]

Ye thats what I try to do mainly. 1 wrath before lunar runs out

[lofty depot]

theres also a tierset weakarua in the compendium

[torpid skiff]

Okay just to make me understand better..
incarn is on cd, im entering combat, i dot everything, i got 2 dreamstate stacks. Do i spend on wraths to enter eclipse or do i rip 2 starfires outside eclipse ?
same scenario for exiting eclipse in combat.Do i rip 2 wraths or slam starfires without eclipse

[upper anvil]

Saves 1 dreamstate for starfire

[lofty depot]

well im specifically talking about incarn with u

[torpid skiff]

i got the wasting stacks when incarn is available part

[upper anvil]

Ah ic

[lofty depot]

if u dont have incarn its w.e.

u can save 1 potentially but its w.e.

and no u dont rip starfires out of eclipse

[torpid skiff]

ah okay

[lofty depot]

again INCARN MAXING

[torpid skiff]

so specifically dont enter eclipse manually when i have incarn

[lofty depot]

starfires big dam

correct

[torpid skiff]

yea i think it was an old habbit from shadowlands or smth

i think we needed to do that at some point

[torpid skiff]

and i didnt play tww

[lofty depot]

u used woe here when u know u have incarn coming

[lofty depot]

df s1

[torpid skiff]

yea

[lofty depot]

people were doing the sundered firm stuff last season and before

[wicked shuttle]

bring back that tier set fr

[lofty depot]

and i figured that shit was piss and was just maxing dreamstate

and got told i was wrong

no sim just felt worse

[torpid skiff]

okay so what i got from it was

1. generally bad cd managment
2. dont FoE in incarn
3. dont waste dreamstate stacks when incarn is available (i.e. dont manually enter eclipse)

did i miss anything nerdge

[lofty depot]

foe before incarn yes

then incarn the gcd of starfall

[wicked shuttle]

im pretty sure that firmament maxxing was never a thing even on like 1st pull of Workshop

it just required an insanely long setup to be worth

[lofty depot]

there was plenty of m+ers telling me otherwise

[wicked shuttle]

and like 45 mobs

[lofty depot]

but i never trust them

cuz m+ers stupid

thats on jah

[wicked shuttle]

idk cory said it wasnt good

[torpid skiff]

im just hoping ravenous frenzy makes a comeback
maybe in 2026...?

[wicked shuttle]

and i trust that guy

[lofty depot]

cory not m+er, he trustworthy

he play mage, he smart

abacus enjoyer

[wicked shuttle]

like 1st pull ara i think you could do it

but youd actually be so far behind

[lofty depot]

im flapping across the room

i aint wrathing

[wicked shuttle]

i cant imagine it's worth just being 2 globals behind running

yeah

[lofty depot]

damn u ugys are fast and dont have lust for big pull

thats toxic

[torpid skiff]

10% is fine, I was regularly like 35% below frost dks esp on stuff like 3d boss of floodgate thats a nightmare to play

[desert moat]

all my homies blasting dps in those pulls while im hardscoping nameplates spamming moonfire

[lofty depot]

fundamentally weird

why surge before ur damage cd

[torpid skiff]

because FoE generates so much astral i feel like its a giga waste to press at like 75+

maybe not 2 surges though..

[upper anvil]

It doesn't instant generate 25 ap that fast tho

Could foe into incar then dump

[torpid skiff]

thanks a ton guys this is very useful

[lofty depot]

this is what foe generated in 3 seconds (which is 25 asp)

which is more than enough time to send a surge

[torpid skiff]

😖

okay got it

[lofty depot]

also because ur not doing it all

u can meld for dreamstate stacks specifically in incarn

[torpid skiff]

hmm

[lofty depot]

generally this is done after woe charges are spent

[torpid skiff]

so incarn -> 3 woe -> meld -> 2 fast sf's ?

[upper anvil]

Melding for dreamstate sounds min maxing af

[lofty depot]

well no remember our talk about dreamstate

[upper anvil]

Which i should try some time

[torpid skiff]

well i switched to night elf yesturday , still getting used to it

[lofty depot]

incarn 2x starfires, starfalls, woe x3 caharges, starfalls, meld, starfires

[lofty depot]

i do be minmaxing

[upper anvil]

You do indeed

[lofty depot]

but also tidbit so u understand right, u still want them for funny abilities

[upper anvil]

I tend to save meld since aggro ripping is a thing sadly

[lofty depot]

so like the lightweave fuckers

so right u need it on the 2nd pull after 2nd boss

so u incarn that pull

but hold meld for the light spawns

(again gotta think about every pull)

[torpid skiff]

also one more question..
is it truly never worth overcapping and slamming sf's ? I feels like its worth it sometimes over the starsurges on st ..

[lofty depot]

u cant stack 2p if u dont gain asp

but no its not worth it

[torpid skiff]

okie

[upper anvil]

Never overcap just spend

Even before tier set. You shouldn't be capping on AP

[lofty depot]

woe charge maybe gets used, might be me misremembering

[torpid skiff]

lol

reverse fire mage

[lofty depot]

its giga cringe like spell queuing thing (i think)

[torpid skiff]

im playing on a pty high ping so i need all the spell queuing i can get :c

[upper anvil]

Eh I've played on oce servers with high ping fine being on a US server

I was down bad getting my 13 key done 💀

[torpid skiff]

im playing on EU from Japan

[upper anvil]

Pings like 150 ish?

[torpid skiff]

and Japan ISP's are giga-dumb routing all traffic via US if i dont use some "gamer vpn"

[upper anvil]

Is doable besides big lag spikes

[torpid skiff]

without the routing thing its 370 lol

[upper anvil]

Hm

[torpid skiff]

with the routing optimizations its 170-ish

yea

[upper anvil]

170 doable. 370 depends. I've played fps at like 250 ping before and was gucci for most part

[lofty depot]

i actually only noticed it when i was on oce ping

[torpid skiff]

nah 370 is unplayable

[lofty depot]

so it might just be a ping issue

[upper anvil]

Oce players are interesting creatures

[torpid skiff]

170 is fine if you abuse spell queueing

a bit

[lofty depot]

it uses owlkin charge if u get a proc

like ur casting a starfire and get a proc mid cast

[torpid skiff]

but for openworld stuff its noticeable

[lofty depot]

hmm maybe i was high when i tried that

misremembering problem

[torpid skiff]

also wtf is vigil

[lofty depot]

the green button u keep presing

[torpid skiff]

ah the healing thing?

yea i should

[lofty depot]

yes

[torpid skiff]

i like pretending im helping the healer in tought situations

[lofty depot]

unless ur doing some coordinated shit, its just like piss healing

[torpid skiff]

but it does fuckall hps

[lofty depot]

well u could be actually healing in big pulls

or u could be pressing it with noting and get ike 6m healing

it can actually do some healing

but outside of cds its next to useless

[torpid skiff]

yea il just slam it in incarn w/e

[sinful surge]

I macro mine with incarn

[torpid skiff]

okay thanks for all the notes guys!

very helpful ❤️

[round field]

Wrong?

Vigil cranks in cds

Especially in aoe

[lofty depot]

well yea, but he not using it in cds

[sinful surge]

Macro it with incarn and bung chilling

[lofty depot]

bung chilling

[round field]

Weirdge

[sinful surge]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-meme-jumpscare-gif-3144572585012083530

[tardy hare]

So ele shaman sim like 700k more than us?

Is this a joke?

[lofty depot]

yes

no

locks aswell

[hollow mist]

L spec sorry try again next expansion

[fringe basin]

I can't seem to find the info anywhere. For a 701 Harvester's Edict (cause i can't get parapodia/brood to drop) do you want to collect the buff as often as you can, or do you want the damage proc? Do I just grab when it is easy? Do I go out of my way to search for and grab the orb for buff instead of damage? Thanks for any input, just replaced a 694 empowering crystal that I could boost to 701.

[tight dagger]

What does the class Tuning mean to us ?

[formal marsh]

The world

[tight dagger]

How mich ST buff ?

[jaunty blaze]

What are you asking

There is no tuning yet

[lofty depot]

it means they hate us cuz theres been no tuning

bet he got baited actually

[tight dagger]

rip, a mate just trolled me with a class tuning from 2024...

[lofty depot]

rekt

[tardy hare]

Feels so sad we were so broken at the start of ptr. Then they nerfed us to the trashbin and seems like they don't care at all

I've never played feral but I did coupel of bosses as feral this week on HC :/

[lofty depot]

they buffed it from trashbin and its still trashbin

[silk shard]

yeah i'm starting to feel it as my group is pushing a few key levels higher than what we are normally doing.

[jaunty blaze]

Whether they care or not is irrelevant because they care for holiday on monday more so you wont see tuning this week

[tardy hare]

Awesome

[lofty depot]

m+ is more than fine

dwilkz pushing 17s doing 11m overall

[tardy hare]

what about us noobs doing small keys with small pulls?

[jaunty blaze]

Skrill issue

[lofty depot]

why u doing small pulls

[tardy hare]

Im not the tank!

[jaunty blaze]

Tank issue

It always is

[tardy hare]

Freaking tanks

I'm doing my last 14's. Usually im the top dps but I should be MORE top dps

[lofty depot]

well technically yes

but that implies ur tank isnt a sally

[tardy hare]

I'm just pugging. Tanks are what they are

Some are good, some are bad

[fringe basin]

im 707 pulling 6-7mil on my overalls, tank is doing large pulls in 10-12keys, am i just not in high enough keys for my average to be going up insane, or am I in a decent spot?

[tardy hare]

10's are way too small for boomers

small trash die too fast for us to ramp dmg

[fringe basin]

kk, so my overall should start going up when we hit that 12-14+ range (overall) just due to mobs living longer in extended buff/aoe pulls

[jaunty blaze]

Depends on the dungeon aswell in some you wont pull higher numbers than that

[tardy hare]

Let's say youre doing first pull on Ara or Gambit

Small stuff starts dying before you've dotted everything

[jaunty blaze]

Especially gambit on 10 is dead before you start doing damage

[tardy hare]

Yup

Don't think you should even dot everything on those pulls on small keys

just incarn and start blasting

[jaunty blaze]

Can slam sunfire if stacked

[tardy hare]

Yup but don't even bother to moonfire

Too many targets, too little hp

[fringe basin]

kk, been topping meters joking how everyone will start passing me when they reach closer to my ilvl, but maybe we can actually hold our own in M+. I do need to work on not using the buff for wraths. I have it baked into my brain to get into lunar THEN blow cd's, whereas I am reading here to blow cd's and just straight into starfires with the 2 boosted casts opposed to using it to go into lunar, but only if I am going into an incarn phase. Mobs normally die within 1.5 incarns, so been holding the 2nd one and only using double incarns for boss fights/cd lineups

[sinful surge]

I like using my dou le incarns every 5 min for pot/lust

[lofty depot]

i mean i can do 8m overall in every dungeon on a 10 but gambit

maybe streets too

priory hit like 9m in a priory i did the other day cuz that dungeon is fun

[junior thicket]

m+ is actually fine tho

[vestal bone]

Yeah I just really hate the EC 4 set sometimes

[round field]

Yeah but then youre playing m+

And m+ bad

[junior thicket]

but wouldnt mind a minor aura buff

[lofty depot]

yea so everyone can ragebait on twitter

hell ya

[steep folio]

My best guess would be that on Soulbinder most groups struggle dealing with the phase where the remaining adds spawn and need fast killing before proceeding, whereas Forgeweaver has dmg amp windows where KOTG can slam cds

With that said. If your raid has adds covered, id play KOTG on all except soul hunters

[round field]

Top logs pay guildies to not hit adds to they can pad

Or pay in guilds which are incapable of doing so

[vital hound]

@delicate perch

[delicate perch]

[delicate perch]

[upper surge]

You guys got any decent M+ plater profiles for showing which mobs are dotted?

Compendium has a big plater profile but it doesn't mention anything about dots

[potent zinc]

does anyone have a weak aura to track the 2 empowered SS from 4set?

[simple kernel]

Haha sorry the reallity is that I fell asleep 😅 I mean the chosens tier

[chilly seal]

With the new 4p in M+ do you want to use fury of elune on cd?

or do you heavily play around your 4p?

[surreal sorrel]

Use it on cd

[chilly seal]

and in raid do you hold CA until you have 2 charges, or after opener basically send on cd?

[surreal sorrel]

Depends on killtime

[chilly seal]

so on loom if it lines up with the damage amp for example, do you prefer to hold until 2 stacks to double dip in the 4p on the damage amp?

not sure on the timings, but lets just pretend in this case

[surreal sorrel]

Yes

[plain mist]

is the key bug fixed? 4pc one

[surreal sorrel]

Uhm idk tbh

Im a tank slave atm

Arctic Helloooo

[chilly seal]

ty for the assistance @surreal sorrel

[surreal sorrel]

[surreal sorrel]

Lorrgs is btw the easiest way to check double ca timings

[muted spoke]

Any kind folk out there able to do some log reviews for me? My damage as a balance druid is ass, and I am not sure why..

[jaunty blaze]

just send them in here there is usually someone who can take a look

[muted spoke]

Ok - here is from heroic raid last week (will have updated ones for this tomorrow) I had shite gear but my parses are still grey.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Fpkw67cLtVQ19hBN?boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=2&type=damage-done&source=56

here is a +12 AK. Gear is a bit better, but damage seems shite.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/x3Jf7hpaCP1T2Kyk?fight=3

[jaunty blaze]

idk what this is

[muted spoke]

oh I forgot to regem woops

[jaunty blaze]

you also miss one in your helmet

running hast enchant is also not optimal for raid setting

[muted spoke]

Do you see anything in the logs that isn't gems as to why my damage is very low? I'll change the gems. is my CD usage terrible? Dot uptime I think is something I struggle a bit on

[jaunty blaze]

but thats likely not the main issue just something i noticed on first glance

oh you play elunes chosen in raid

[past vector]

!sims

[muted spoke]

Yes, I also have the +12 key, I think my damage was a bit low on that, would you be able to check that one for me please @jaunty blaze

[jaunty blaze]

you dont want to do that

pressing incarnation gives you 2 stacks of dreamstate that you waste with warrior of elune

then you probably accidentally double press it 9 sec later

also macro natures vigil and trinket into incarn

[muted spoke]

I sent it on Fury of Elune

[jaunty blaze]

also you dont want to dot inside your incarn

[muted spoke]

Okay but how does it work with 2 charges of Incarn? as I sent it on Fury of Elune and then about 20s later I can do that again but Vigil and Trinket will still be on CD

[jaunty blaze]

it will be used whenever they are off cd

[muted spoke]

So I was told on here before, only send FOE with Incarn, so I use the x2 incarn charges probably within 30/45 seconds because when I spend on starsurge it gives me cd reduction on FOE

but now its best to just pop the macro and do it altogether so I'll set that up now.

[jaunty blaze]

you send foe whenever its off cd otherwise you lose lunation value

but you are supposed to press foe before incarn so you dont waste a global

[muted spoke]

ok so send foe off cooldown but try to also line it up with Incarn?

[jaunty blaze]

when its available

[muted spoke]

ok

[jaunty blaze]

if you can yes

[muted spoke]

Thanks for all the help

@jaunty blaze when should I be using Warrior of Elune?

[jaunty blaze]

whenever you need it tbh

maybe save it for when movement comes up

or inside incarn to slam a starfires

but use the dreamstate stacks before

otherwise you lose 2 hasted starfires

[muted spoke]

got it

[jaunty blaze]

you also seem to be cancelling casts a lot

[muted spoke]

okay I think because I am used to playing melee I am not so familiar with lining up casts and then predicting the movemnt

I have a timer for when to x2 wrath as well, I can be a little early on that need to work on it.

[jaunty blaze]

uptime and always be casting is the main thing to work on i would say

make sure to not slam your incarn before you dotted everything and then blast

you will lose the most damage there

[muted spoke]

what is the best way to dot? moonfire first then sunfire?

[jaunty blaze]

yes

moonfire a target with no moonfire on it and it spreads to another close one

so say you have 10 targets you would need 5 casts

and then when they are stacked press sunfire

[muted spoke]

okay

and for the roation it goes like this?

Dot > FOE > Incarn macro > Dreamstate x2 procs > Starfall if aoe / Starsurge if ST

[jaunty blaze]

ye

especially with the current 4pc make sure to always generate asp with starfire casts or you lose value aswell

[deft crown]

why are we using foe before ca?

[jaunty blaze]

because you dont want to spend the gcd inside your incarn

more value pressing starfire

[deft crown]

damn okay

[jaunty blaze]

ca isnt on the gcd so you can press it immediately after

but if foe only comes up inside your incarn you press it inside

[safe egret]

is there's a way to not accidently cancel channeled abilities (canvoke) when pressing the button again? I keep accidently doing it. I usually spam the next button i want while waiting for cooldowns and this will sometimes cancel it

[peak mantle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rGwAr4vAnSfzVrqVe4DCqA

need some help a tier trinket worse then s2 trinekts?

i,m i doing anything wrong?

[dreamy locust]

No juggs just brokededly good

Int is just pretty bad, secondary stats rule

[hard wyvern]

Maybe haste too high for the passive trinket

[peak mantle]

hast is 19%

[hard wyvern]

Maybe swap ur fiber and resim

I’m on my phone what Ilvl did you set the trinkets

[peak mantle]

max hc

710

[delicate perch]

ur simming a bunch of bean trinkets

with no on use

[peak mantle]

was siomming mostlt Azhiccaran Parapodia

[delicate perch]

yea

beans

[cloud plover]

which isn't great

[peak mantle]

but why is it a tier on wowhead

[maiden pasture]

In other words, beans

Who cares about wowhead tierlists

[delicate perch]

[potent cargo]

ouch

[delicate perch]

[cloud plover]

tiers mean nothing when you don't max out the ilvl of the item
it has to be 723 to be "a tier" and fit whatever profile it was simmed with

[hard wyvern]

That’s not how that works

[peak mantle]

oke so just sim and go on 🙂

[jaunty blaze]

falling for the easiest baits

[cloud plover]

trust the Sims

they lead proper

[hard wyvern]

If 20ilvl doesn’t make an item good then either the old item is broken or the new one is beans

[delicate perch]

👢

[delicate perch]

both

[peak mantle]

learned something today 🙂

[delicate perch]

jug very cracked

new dungeon trinkets suck

1x on use will be gooderer

[cloud plover]

he basically has 0 crit

even using haste in belt

so mug is insane value on top

[delicate perch]

haste belt

[cloud plover]

yeah lmao

[peak mantle]

this is better ill look for this then

[delicate perch]

try get forge from raid but ya either of those will be good for now

[potent cargo]

mfw

68k dps increase when ur doin 4.8m

[peak mantle]

i,m raidng all lfr normal and hc for now nothing yet

[potent cargo]

big upgrade

[jaunty blaze]

yuge 0.2%

[delicate perch]

(vs 684 trinkets) (at 710)

[cloud plover]

Also try doing topgear with different belt combos

[jaunty blaze]

not even

[deft crown]

am still rocking the normal araz i got the 1st week kek

[cloud plover]

I'm rocking my myth araz

[jaunty blaze]

imagine getting items

[delicate perch]

normal loot still fine if you spend crests elsewhere

[peak mantle]

dif belt combo?

[jaunty blaze]

you can choose a different belt proc

[cloud plover]

your belt has effects
press + button on it in top gear, select stuff like electric current, critical chain

[jaunty blaze]

right click on it

[peak mantle]

ok ty i know that 😛

ty

[jaunty blaze]

and in topgear you can sim the different ones

[peak mantle]

critcain is 5 k

[storm frigate]

yuuuuge

[jaunty blaze]

vers is likely to be the best

[cloud plover]

yeah idk what boomies want I'm shadow pilled where crit one goes hard

[jaunty blaze]

10k vers goes hard with burst

[peak mantle]

so mastery vers 🙂

[storm frigate]

my gear is lacking so much crit, but even running sim they only recommend the very slightest of changes, like 1 ring enchant

[spark inlet]

What performs better in M+ and Raid?
afaik, elune for m and keeper for raid?

I use keeper for both, and it's all I know.
Does it really matter what you play in that content?

[jaunty blaze]

depends on the level of content you do

for weekly 10s keeper is fine

[spark inlet]

I cleared normal and plan on going heroic, but i am new to m+ I just started to dip my toes into it and did a 2 and a 4

[jaunty blaze]

elunes chosen outperforms it the higher you go

ye its alright

you can play whatever you like for that

[spark inlet]

oh, ok! Thank you for responding.
I dont plan on being sweaty with m+ just casually doing it here and there

[delicate perch]

keeper sounds miserable in m+

[dreamy locust]

Raid depends on fights, EC always in M+

[delicate perch]

press trees

[dreamy locust]

Mainly KOTG in raid tho, aoe fights can play EC

[delicate perch]

everything dies

afk for trees

[upper anvil]

Keeper in keys is a war crime

[dreamy locust]

I know people who play keeper cause it doesnt matter and they like their autodotting trees

[spark inlet]

T.T wish I knew that, but oh well. I didnt know keeper was shit in m+. I was having fun though

[dreamy locust]

Some people dont care about number

Its fine for 10's other people can aoe

[delicate perch]

ya I mean in a +2 you could play no hero talent and time it

[spark inlet]

I haven't gone higher than 4 at the moment

[dreamy locust]

If you wanna play keeper cause you like it, do you

[upper anvil]

Keeper doesn't sound fun in keys tho personally

[dreamy locust]

Youll do less overall but overall is not really important at all

[upper anvil]

You'll do lots of ST tho which is great for bossing

[fossil shard]

You can play anything you want until a 10 imo. But EC is fun and easy

[delicate perch]

keepers bad enough but convoke with it sounds despair

[fossil shard]

And dryad window in m+ is cringe

[delicate perch]

ya you are not stacking that on anything but maybe a boss

[dreamy locust]

Every week for HM taz I basically play keeper cause changing talents as boomy is too annoying

One shotting pulsars was pretty fun

[delicate perch]

hm isn't a +2 though

you defs justt play pure ST in taz HM and pull a pack at a time anyway

[upper anvil]

I mean there's loadouts that you click one button to change lol

[spark inlet]

I'll keep that in mind. thanks

[pallid bay]

the issue is everything is on cd

[dreamy locust]

Thanks bro

[pallid bay]

trees on CD, CA on cd, WoE on cd

[upper anvil]

[delicate perch]

simply don't use cds

[pallid bay]

[upper anvil]

Cds overrated. Don't use them

[spark inlet]

yea, when I was doing raid normal and hitting bosses I was going between # 4 and 5 in dps. But I'm more about having fun.

EC does not sound fun to me, but I may give it a go when I get around to 10's

[dreamy locust]

EC is pretty brain off relaxing gameplay

[upper anvil]

Idk. Majority of keys is just trash packs which is mainly aoe. Bosses typically take like 1-3 mins on average and you'll do decent ST as EC

But keeper for aoe I wasn't ever a fan of it in raid personally

[spark inlet]

Well, thanks all for the input. I appreciate it

[upper anvil]

Tbf I never actually tried keeper in a key before 🤣

[dreamy locust]

Dreamburst used to go hard

[spark inlet]

I find it fun tbh. But the one 2 and one 4 I did were my first ever m+ so I dont really know what to compare

[upper anvil]

Generally when you do try EC and you play it decently right you'll see you'll out dos keeper im overall and pack pulls. But you'll probably lose out on ST boss dps but its fine

[sour totem]

is this a solid trinket for us in m+?

[proud turtle]

mage

[jaunty blaze]

solid yes

better in raid

[unborn path]

Hi, I have a question. I am a resto druid, but OS balance. Given that boomkin best build is prioritizing crit and mastery, would it be more beneficial to go Elune’s chosen during OS?

[normal pilot]

you can just keep some extra ring/neck on hand to swap

[unborn path]

I don’t have

Hence me asking

[normal pilot]

you'd prolly have to sim it, EC can be quite a bit behind on ST so even with your resto gear kotg may still be ahead

[unborn path]

Thanks

[plucky valley]

Season 1 keeper in m+ was so fun

I really appreciated the trees spreading moonfire for me

[maiden pasture]

you didnt play keeper in s1 either tho

[young horizon]

HEY

how do i do dmg with keeper in st

is there any guide

i can watch yall reccomend

[lucid olive]

compendium linked in channel description and pinned messages

[jaunty blaze]

compendium in the pins

[young horizon]

ty

[tiny fractal]

daily reminder to buff boomkin

[young horizon]

yedah

[jaunty blaze]

who are you reminding in here

its like screaming into the void

[normal pilot]

can't wait for void moonkin form in midnight

[jaunty blaze]

type shit

that would go hard

[tranquil vault]

I thought it was haste mastery and crit the lowest one ?

[plucky valley]

That would go hard tbh

Voidkin

[trim geyser]

hello! question: i am looking at the keeper of the grove rotation on wowhead and it says to cast force of nature 2 globals into celestial alignment/incarnation. why is that?

[digital berry]

nopt this season

[digital berry]

ca 12 seconds, trees 10 seconds, dryad buff 10 seconds

its to get tree dmg amp on dryad buffed surges

[trim geyser]

oh thanks a lot! couldn't find an explanation on there 😅

[digital berry]

there is one im sure

[trim geyser]

maybe i missed it xd

[trim geyser]

oh, where is that?

[digital berry]

how to use kotg set

under rotation

[tranquil vault]

So what gear guid to follow then. Wowhead is focussing still in that it seems

[digital berry]

theres no such thing as a gear guide\

sim your items

[tranquil vault]

Yeah i sim also

[merry ibex]

Should I be using starfall in p2 heroid dimen?

[gentle patio]

why? you plan on killing all the adds?

or just one?

[merry ibex]

I men we have the big guy, one in the middle and the 2 null adds

I was just asking generally what people are doing

[young ravine]

i think im doing way less damage that i should have. any input on this log im still learning how to save and upload on wlogs.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/q96jCpkYbxJh78Hv?fight=last&playermetric=playerscore

feel free to roast and givnig honest opinion T.T

[sand rain]

No. Those adds die too quick anyways and plus you should be target swapping

From Big Add to the Middle guy for path

[tranquil vault]

What guide to follow for spec if wowhead is still using mastery haste

[sand rain]

The Null Adds, my guild blows them up so I usually dont have time to do anything on those

[scenic mist]

don't press WoE before using your 2 nature's grace stacks
press FoE BEFORE incarn

but the big issue is you're cancelling way too many casts

dont ever dot inside incarn, life's too short for this shit

this is basically wasting 1 incarn

[young ravine]

noted! thanks for the input ashitaka, will be more carefull with that, spec the cancelling spell to much.

[craggy sonnet]

@lofty depot hello Mr dreamstate maxxer.. so what do I do if my incarn and trinky is ready but my foe only comes up mid eclipse?

[scenic mist]

i guess you delay your trinket by 6sec (until the end of your eclipse that is) and then send everything, if you want to minmax NG

delaying incarn isnt an issue as long as you're not capped on charges

[jaunty blaze]

always got the 100 seconds window to use it

[lucid olive]

not rly

just send CDs into the big adds

if your team arent killing the middle adds then help out on them

[tranquil vault]

i'm going to do more heroic raid bosses tonight. i've been using elune's chosen , but i see more and more kotg now?

[lucid olive]

i saw you got an answer but you should read the Compendium guide linked in channel description and pins. details about the KOTG set are there in the "rotational details" section and in the priority list

[lucid olive]

yes keeper is better for most bosses

[tranquil vault]

oke switching back to it 🙂

[craggy sonnet]

I guess the question is rather, do you send incarn before your foe is ready and then foe mid incarn or do you waste foe cdr or do you just send incarn mid eclipse or do you just send foe early and then incarn after eclipse

[scenic mist]

if you FoE you incarn next gcd for sure
question is does NG value supersede the FoE cdr value you lose by delaying 5sec
i believe it does but only a sim could settle the matter ig

[craggy sonnet]

This would be a sim question but I cba trying to implement that, so just interested in different people's feelycrafts on this

[scenic mist]

it also depends on what the pull is looking like

if you need to do dmg fast, maybe don't wait

if you have time, maybe wait

is what i'd do out of feelings

[craggy sonnet]

But foe mid incarn would not be an option for you? *If you would still get the boundless moonlight bang inside of incarn

[scarlet tapir]

me when i ask @lucid olive a serious question

and he just refuses to answer

is this the expert we have?

[scenic mist]

strong point of FoE is adding a damage multiplier

having half of my incarn w/o it is bad imo

[lucid olive]

the question asked

[jaunty blaze]

[severe hollow]

where is the question

[lucid olive]

exactly

[severe hollow]

like the statements all make sense

but

gotta ask the question

[craggy sonnet]

You mean the tier set mult?

Because before this set this was already a big argument point but you get it via sundered anyways

[digital berry]

Wasting cdr on foe just never feels good

[scarlet tapir]

leaking dms gg

[lucid olive]

yeah my bad

not trustworthy

[craggy sonnet]

Yea, I guess if you are not fully stacked on 4p at least there is some additional incentive to hold for dreamstate now

[digital berry]

Dreamstate cannot be worth as much as Arctic peddles for it

[scenic mist]

• set now ofc

[craggy sonnet]

Yea you get this via sundered

So it doesn't matter

[scenic mist]

might not get sundered on your incarn

50/50

[craggy sonnet]

Wdym?

[scenic mist]

unless you count cards like at the casino

sundered proc one every other eclipse

[craggy sonnet]

Incarn is double eclipse

It always procs sundered

[scenic mist]

does it work like that ?

damn

[craggy sonnet]

Yes

[scenic mist]

[craggy sonnet]

So your sundered is always in the same state as it was before incarning, just 1 full cycle ahead

[lucid olive]

nodders

so if you proc sundered with an eclipse and insta press incarn

your sundered has 2x duration

the damage doesn't but the AP gain buff does

[scenic mist]

then there is "only" the value of the 4set

[craggy sonnet]

Its not double sundered?

[lucid olive]

you get 2x lasers doing dmg

but the ap buff gets 2x duration

[tawdry oak]

whats the optimal comp for us in m+ this season

[craggy sonnet]

Oh

That's interesting behavior

[lucid olive]

not that it matters for EC now

since passively gaining AP = bad

[craggy sonnet]

I thought it would just double the ap rate

[craggy sonnet]

Correct

But that is the bigger amp

[formal cobalt]

is there a recommendation on elune vs keeper for m+ at higher keys? 12+ or are we expecting them to perform the same mostly

[jaunty blaze]

EC better generally

[lofty depot]

is this in the middle of a pack or

[digital berry]

But we’ve already established that holding for for 4p is not the play

[craggy sonnet]

Since you are gonna say hold for next if I said yes, let's assume boss

[craggy sonnet]

Idk, did we?

[lofty depot]

would hold incarn til next foe

its like 10ish seconds

doesnt matter

on st boss it doesnt really matter either

u could just send

u do no damage

[craggy sonnet]

Ok, that's exaggerating the cdr a bit

But surely it's not worth sitting on trinket everytime you do this and you are not guaranteed a better timing for that next foe

[lofty depot]

i dont think it is, not on boss at least

but shrug

[craggy sonnet]

You think you get foe every 10s?

That would be 17 arcane spells in 10s

Big haste gamers

[lofty depot]

no i meant 10s wasted on cdr

[craggy sonnet]

Oh, did you mistype then?

[lofty depot]

probably

i jsut woke up

[craggy sonnet]

You meant you would hold foe til eclipse end?

Fair fair

[lofty depot]

well i said hold til next eclipse end

but then also said its a boss so like we do negative damage anyway

[craggy sonnet]

That's not what you said

Read that shit again

[scenic mist]

arctic brain freezing

[craggy sonnet]

Yes

[lofty depot]

is close enough

[scenic mist]

[craggy sonnet]

Can't even process after reading again?

[lofty depot]

nope

let the mustard flow

[scenic mist]

from "would hold FoE till next eclipse" to "hold incarn till next FoE"

goated

https://tenor.com/view/magic-8-ball-not-good-outlook-robot-dreams-gif-13153136483637167804

[lofty depot]

it doesnt say hold foe til next eclipse end

[digital berry]

Clankz woke up on the wrong foot

[scenic mist]

lmao

[lofty depot]

yes

thats incarn

[scenic mist]

here is the issue i reckon

[craggy sonnet]

And what do you do with the foe in that scenario

Also hold

No?

[lofty depot]

send it

[craggy sonnet]

Send

Ok

[lofty depot]

also dependssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

second boss eco

i sometimes have incarn and trinket up for boss

[craggy sonnet]

So not waste cdr on foe but not get 4p amp on incarn

[lofty depot]

and hold for 20-30s

cuz of the double amp thingy

[digital berry]

Well whether you get 4p amp on incarn is all up to Jesus

[lofty depot]

well u could get 4amp on incarn if u send foe and spam for w.e. it is like 25 seconds

[digital berry]

Could get 0 procs

[lofty depot]

we get amps back surely

[craggy sonnet]

Yea hopefully you got at least some until foe up again or in the 6+ seconds you potentially hold it to get dreamstate

[craggy sonnet]

Say that with more words?

[lofty depot]

uhhh press starfire for 25 seconds, surely we get amps

[craggy sonnet]

Uhh

So you foe mid eclipse

And then what, you do not incarn on next dreamstate?

Like I need some more words to fill the gaps in your plan here

[lofty depot]

well right u said middle of eclipse

and said like 6s

which were then holding for the next foe right and next dreamstate

so 6+15

should be up by then no?

[craggy sonnet]

But your next foe is also just gonna beid eclipse

Or rather you don't know either way

[lofty depot]

hmm

[craggy sonnet]

Fwiw, my current stance is that you send incarn with dreamstate pre foe if foe has like sub 15s left on it and you hold foe till eclipse end otherwise

[lofty depot]

hmmm

i send foe at 2 starfire 2s and incarn

bad player

[craggy sonnet]

What what

Bro, I legit can't follow anything you are saying. Get a coffee

[lofty depot]

i sent foe at the end of that eclipse

with 2s left

then starfired at 2s, then sent incarn with dreamstates

[digital berry]

You’re hyper fixating clankz just vibe it out it ain’t that deep

[lofty depot]

yea so true dude

dwilkz it out

[craggy sonnet]

I'm not actually. Just chatting, feeling out other's opinion. It's not that deep

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/chace-crawford-the-boys-the-deep-wink-gif-14839780402090172878

this is that deep

[loud kettle]

ur about to find out how deep it is

[scenic mist]

i ain't your regular octopus

[digital berry]

I just send foe and dgaf

[craggy sonnet]

Don't fondle with my gills, you freak

[lofty depot]

i say maybe proper thinking, and then vibe

its about knowing the fundamentals and then excercising what uhh should be correct in practice

[wind lintel]

Has anyone got a WA that shows when to use Treants during CA? Pretty sure there was a WA back in Shadowlands for Venthyr Timers

attempting to make one but im dog at WAs

[lofty depot]

its not that deep lke venthyr timings

u press ca, press 2 gcds (generally surge) and trees

[wind lintel]

cool cool thats what ive been doing but just trying to remove that room for error

[lofty depot]

go practice on dummies

[fossil shard]

@steep stratus your time to shine again 😂

The good ole days

[lofty depot]

jund is on vacation

[stray abyss]

Little question: In my opener i use my incarn twice to boost the first dryad. But do i then wait for both incarns to be up again for 2nd time or do i use when they are off CD and use them 1 by 1 instead?

[lofty depot]

u double on opener and at 410-420ish

[stray abyss]

aah shiet

[lofty depot]

send a single with convoke at 2m

[stray abyss]

convoke without incarn u mean?

[lofty depot]

if the fight only lasts like 345-4m

u send 2 doubles

and hold the 2m

[lofty depot]

no

u send normally like u always did at 2m

and then u have a double up at 420

[stray abyss]

aaaaah!

So basiclly;
Opener 2x incarn
Incarn when its off CD
Then wait for double incarn again? shiet i feel slow

[formal cobalt]

just use hekili man

the keeper rotation is garbage right now

[dense steeple]

[lofty depot]

it all depends on kill timing

but yes if ur killing boss at 5m u send 2 1 2

[stray abyss]

nice, tyvm!

Going for dimensius HC so guess that will be my play there

[lofty depot]

that also depends on ur push timing

generally u would send a cd at 2m then get it back for the middle of 1st platform

then ur double will be up during the amp

but if ur pushing too fast u either send at 2m or hold for platform 1 start

again, depends on kill times

[stray abyss]

ah, thanks for pointers! 🙂 Since we start to progress on Dimensius today I assume it will be abit, random from time to time

[lofty depot]

tell ur rl u can pick up the excess mass

then u get no downtime 🙂

ethicallllllllllllll

[sand quiver]

plus excess mass is fun

[lofty depot]

stand infront, walk with it with 2 surges usually, then cast wrath into the finish

ezpz

[opaque pebble]

feel like sims have guided me a long way from having much haste, feels abit crap being so slow

[lofty depot]

crit more

feel good

[normal pilot]

just play ec then you can run most haste

[mental plover]

why does dwilkz enters eclipse before sending incarn

i thought you wanted dreamstate for the starfires during incarn

[lofty depot]

dwilkz is a viber

and he do funny thing sometimes

[mental plover]

ah, thought you could get double stacks on smthn

[lofty depot]

@carmine vigil bad player, please fix

[mental plover]

and i was prolly missing

[lofty depot]

get off mage rat

[stray abyss]

haha will do! Last stupid question for today (hopefully), but Blooming infusion.. You use it when it procs?

[lofty depot]

if u need the regrowth sure

actively press it tho no

[stray abyss]

puh, good

haha

[golden belfry]

Can use it when you know a damage event is about to happen

[lofty depot]

that was the part of "if u need the regrowth"

[mental plover]

@lofty depot do i pick goldrinn instead of sundered for m+?

oh ic u answered on twitch

lmao

ty ty

i was just about to move from the PC

[digital berry]

Link Arctic stream with NEOW

[lofty depot]

dwilkz

[digital berry]

Oh

[quiet musk]

guys can i find a opener somewhere?

[fossil shard]

Compendium in pins

Or Warcraft logs

[quiet musk]

there is the prio but not an opener

[fossil shard]

That’s what an opener is

[quiet musk]

the only question i have is , do i hardcast moonfire in my opener?

[fossil shard]

Yes

[quiet musk]

ty

for future burst windows too?

[golden belfry]

Wrath wrath starfire moonfire sunfire ca surge surge trees convoke surge wrath surge surge ca wrath surge > pool enough asp for two more surges

[quiet musk]

or do i just let the treants do it

[fossil shard]

Always refresh dots in pandemic

After opener

If your trees do it for you, all good

[quiet musk]

whats pandemic, CA?

[golden belfry]

No, don't dot in ca lol

When your dots are about to expire, refresh

[quiet musk]

[golden belfry]

That simple

[fossil shard]

Refresh window of your dot timer that lets you add remaining amount to the new cycle

Or 30% of it I think it is

Basically refresh anywhere between 1-6 seconds left on dot

[lofty depot]

theres an opener tab in the compendium

it quite literally says opener

[fossil shard]

A lot of plater profiles will have a glow or something on the dot timer when it’s in pandemic

Jundies is my reco if you’re looking for one to do this

[quiet musk]

omg

im blind

thank you all ^^

[quiet musk]

does pandemic refer to a trait?

[lofty depot]

pandemic is a old mechanic added to dots, explained in that picture

[quiet musk]

so its just a fancier word of "about to run out"?

[muted spoke]

Anyone have a simple KOTG rotation diagram / opener pls?

[lofty depot]

basically refresh anytime under 5/6s and u dont lose value in it

[lofty depot]

in the compendium

[muted spoke]

Thanks, and does anyone have a dryad weak aura I don't see it on Quazii's weak aura pack

[golden belfry]

https://wago.io/OiBalance

[lofty depot]

theres a tierset wa in the compendium if u scroll down

or u could use oibalance pack cuz its clearly better than what ur using

[stone ledge]

I’ve been using the luckyone version for a whole season and can’t find one that I like since

[lofty depot]

smh

[safe egret]

friendly platers dont work in mythics?

[digital berry]

Did you disable them?

[safe egret]

i dont think so, i see blizzard plates

and i see the platers in all other group content (havent tried raids)

here's an example

[digital berry]

Can’t help ya sorry I just have them disabled perma

[vagrant prawn]

is it normal for my Sim to tell me to take out my meta gem and put in all mast/haste gems?

[stone ledge]

no

[lucid olive]

yes

[stone ledge]

???

[lucid olive]

because in order for the sim to tell you that

you had to have not checked the "always pick" option under the meta gem

and with the option unchecked it is normal yes

[vagrant prawn]

thatll to do it is it also good to check the only use max colors also?

[lofty depot]

hover over the "?"