balance

[digital berry]

Aim to have fun

[sinful surge]

do I macro my lily to my incarn and forget about it? or am i supposed to keep track of it

[wanton vapor]

Na who wanna have fun?

[digital berry]

Me dawg raiding is hella fun

[scenic mist]

boss dmg parse is a good aim

[lofty depot]

post a log ill help u get first

[digital berry]

Bro got one 100 and acts like he’s the boss

[scenic mist]

you'll just tell him to reroll ele

stop it

[lofty depot]

no i wont

[wanton vapor]

Dont have any log with new 4set, just got it yesterday

[lofty depot]

i gain gamer 2%

wow

[crude void]

Even the priory trinket sims better for me than Lily which I can't fuking understnad

[lofty depot]

ur not getting extra uses

[clever ibex]

Is EC bug fixed?

[lofty depot]

yessem

[scenic mist]

lily is a 1min30 trinket that you only use every 2min

priory is a 2min trinket

not surprising to find priory > lily imo

[crude void]

Technically Lily still gives more stat unless the priory bonus effect is on more players

Lily is a house of cards which simmed better for all then priory last tier

[scenic mist]

HoC ramped with each use, lily doesnt afaik

[crude void]

And on EC aoe still Priory sims better and on EC you are not holding your CA so you could get use of the 1.5min cd on lily

[crude void]

true

[lofty depot]

yes but unless ur simming mdt

[scenic mist]

and cd timings are not the same between 11.1 than 11.2

priory was desynching our cds when HoC was very comfortable

[crude void]

Makes sense

tbh I never used either priory or Lily this season. I. got a champion Energy Syphon from TW raid and it simmed higher then everything even after nerf

[maiden beacon]

you guys did it

and you didnt need to lock down your discord

[lofty depot]

sick bait

[maiden beacon]

[mighty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shake-gif-19831790

[maiden beacon]

if ithelps, alot of people fell for it

[maiden beacon]

[mighty mica]

saw two people post it in wt unironically

classic

[maiden beacon]

same in how

[merry ibex]

Balance is so fucking bad in raid it actually makes me a little sad

I apologize for wanting to enjoy raid blizzard

my bad

[pale halo]

My heart stopped for a milisecond seeing blue post with balance druids in it until i started reading it

[maiden beacon]

[nimble pier]

Pretty sure it’s littlewigs that has it now

[silk shard]

i feel like getting 4pc actually hurt my mob cleaving in low keys vs 2pc/2pc T_T can't even keep waning twilight up consistently anymore

[quiet drift]

[quiet musk]

have tauren always been the best race? or did they change something

i cant remember tauren havinga crit buff

[cold badge]

they changed it

[lofty depot]

its had a crit buff

but generally we havent stacked crit in a while

[cold badge]

i thought tauren was a stam buff

[lofty depot]

is both

[stone ledge]

are we really paying blizzard for that little bit of crit

[lofty depot]

is like 40k dps

[stone ledge]

tmog >

[quiet musk]

well, i like tauren anyways ^^

[stone ledge]

ill play 40k dps better

[lofty depot]

not having meld does suck

did a priory and grr

[stone ledge]

before i become a MOOkin

[quiet musk]

yea thats what i thought too

meld is too good

[stone ledge]

get melded on

[lofty depot]

but i care more about raid

[quiet musk]

in the current m+ season, whats good points for using it? so far i only noticed in streets first boss babyjail

[lofty depot]

priory

hoa

i mean dps in general

its probably a bigger dps gain this season

[quiet musk]

meld in raid?

[lofty depot]

no

in keys

meld only ok for setting boss when i have pulsar

(i dont have pulsar)

[quiet musk]

stomp is also pretty pog in keys

[urban crescent]

Imagine having meld OR crit buff

Laughs in fat human

[lofty depot]

isnt kiran vers

is good

[urban crescent]

Ye

And you get a funny punch

[quiet musk]

what does zalandari races refer to when they say "paku , gonk kragwa akunda"?

[lofty depot]

is crit

tauren is 2% crit dam

paku is 1% crit chance

[nimble pier]

They are Loas- kind of gods, each gives a different secondary buff

You have to get the blessing at the corresponding shrine in dazar’alor

[ionic oak]

finally started healing today...
blizz did this to me

[stray abyss]

Hello! I don’t know if I’m allowed to ask this here but I give it a shot, if it’s not ok tell me and I delete the post asap.

I’m looking for a good player to help me improve as a midtier (60-70 logs) raider.

I can offer gold as payment. If anyone is interested and can back up that they are good, give me a hala in whisper

[lofty depot]

post a log

[jaunty blaze]

You can just ask questions here

[stray abyss]

Yea but kinda wanna brainstorm some stuff and don’t wanna flood this channel haha

[lofty depot]

blud i flood this channel with picutres of log

post log

[ionic oak]

its true

arctic is a flooder

[lofty depot]

yea flooding your moms mouth

[ionic oak]

its true

[jaunty blaze]

[lofty depot]

[ionic oak]

she said youd help me get better as payment

[lofty depot]

type shit

[stray abyss]

Fair enough! Will post later when I’m at the computer.

But like, with 4set as EC, does it really affect anything?cause dryad mainly affect kotg?

[lofty depot]

4p keeper doesnt affect dryad

4p ec is a small surge uhh split which gives a stack of a consumable buff. Foe comsumes said buff and increases ur damage by 4% x per stack

[jaunty blaze]

Preserve sanity play it like last season

[stray abyss]

Hmm okey

Yea got 4 set yesterday so gotta learn to use the dryad buff properly

Feels like I’m missing out on damage

[lofty depot]

did u read the guide

and or watch the video

[stray abyss]

Yea and I still do low logs which bother me. When I put it in wowanalyzer it looks like I’m doing pretty damn good overall so yea.. can’t figure it out haha

[lofty depot]

wowanalyzer doesnt say how to play properly

[vocal lichen]

Excuse me, how does one do that?

This is starlord uptime

[lofty depot]

is that soulhunter/

[vocal lichen]

I'm looking at this https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cLn1HPbkNXVgtZY4?fight=84&type=auras&source=1959&view=timeline&ability=279709

[lofty depot]

likely a glitch within the log cuz thats when they phase

actually not blitch cuz u get like "frozen"

doesnt do that

probably jsut a funny gltich in the log

[stray abyss]

Damn, realized I only have logs from m+ and not from any raidboss.. except yesterdays shitty dimentrius kill

[serene elk]

real buff or another troll ?

[jaunty blaze]

There is no buff

[broken valve]

i guess the ideal answer is "sim it" , but is there a a quick/general answer to this question:
do i keep going for mastery even after diminishing returns? or do i want to aim for other stats?

[jaunty blaze]

You answered yourself

[broken valve]

"sim it" ?

[jaunty blaze]

Yes

[broken valve]

yea, though so xD

[jaunty blaze]

DR doesnt matter when the sim says its an increase

[broken valve]

true!

[jaunty blaze]

There is no set amount of anything you aim for

[broken valve]

my question was more like - there are classes ( at least i think so xD ) like fire mage that they want to stack haste no matter what

so i was wondering if boomi is maybe a similar case xD

but anyhow, yea u got me covered xD ty!

[jaunty blaze]

At some point the sim will just automatically prefer other stats more

[broken valve]

yep!

[tiny ridge]

hi

best travel form

[round field]

I thought you deleted your druid

[tiny ridge]

support gave me back

[round field]

shame

[tiny ridge]

i hope i will get boosted in 11

mage most importan to have in group

cant even move from spawn xD

i forget how stupid the game is

2.7k rating mage did not bl 🙁

and did 4m dps on the big ppack 1st pull

mages are gamble 🙁

[somber path]

big coin flip on mages yeah

[pale swan]

https://x.com/allyparser/status/1961518892502978911

ally (@allyparser)

X · Aug 29, 2025, 7:58 PM

[tiny ridge]

either they are too good or too bad

imagine to been worse than me

lets go 10 key same problem

shaman did not bl

[somber path]

rip

[leaden raft]

can some give a bit feedback? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cfZK1dWAkhpwvTMn?fight=58&type=damage-done&source=3

[scarlet tapir]

love when dogshit players dont know how healing works and press their defensives when no dmg is coming

bro told me to 1 heal a 2.6M dot every sec as a pres

[frozen solar]

declined to 15s simulator for the past 3 hours https://tenor.com/view/eric-andre-let-me-wahh-wild-go-gif-13490041

i see a grp fill with aff/deva/holyPr....

[tiny ridge]

as always ff

[wide plank]

Ari.. that's a name I've not seen in a while. How you doing bud?

[frozen solar]

😄 all good o7

[tiny ridge]

shaman big dps

[round field]

monk name

describes you perfectly

[tiny ridge]

thanks

i choosed that name

[torpid skiff]

is there any credible info about how to game the elunes chocen 4set ? Is it worth holding off fury of elune to fish for stacks orr.....?

or just ignore it and press ur rotation yolo

[round field]

no gaming

press cd on cd

play exactly the same as last season

[torpid skiff]

sadge

need some secret tech to outdps a frost dk

i can't cope any more

[round field]

easy fix

[torpid skiff]

closest i ever got

[opaque pebble]

how different is stats for m+ compared for raid?

[eager pivot]

do we know if we are getting a buff on reset cause I am tired of getting benched whole tier due to poopoo numbers

[jaunty blaze]

🔮

[jaunty blaze]

aside from mastery very different

[round field]

go reroll

nice bait

[crystal fulcrum]

already done

[jaunty blaze]

i have been there 1 year ago

we went full circle

[tiny ridge]

i will never finish hoa

[iron chasm]

Not good

[tardy hare]

That place is horrifying

[dreamy cove]

what tells you X was ready?

[tiny ridge]

i will never reach top dps 🙁

[scarlet tapir]

details plugin

advanced death something

[jaunty blaze]

pls remove the warbound map from your bars

[hollow mist]

also fix ur inventory how yall live like this

[round field]

Nah

Its ragebait

Just stop engaging

[hollow mist]

[rain marten]

@tiny ridge even the top dps in that key was doing tank dmg🤣

[strong bronze]

I just gone done reading ally's tweet about moonkins hiring people intentionally to make boomie look bad that is the most delusional thing i have read

[tiny ridge]

why tank is not doing dmg than?

[rain marten]

Because he’s a bear

Bears do healer dmg

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[tiny ridge]

;/

[burnt jetty]

We did it, boomie on top

[twin lotus]

IDK why people are complaining that starfire does more dmg than our spenders, just play kotg M+ and never do anything more than +10

please blizzard, make starfall great again

[vital hound]

sir we've got a clicker

[jaunty blaze]

he has it twice for reasons

[muted citrus]

his computer has depression be nice

[tiny ridge]

tank dmg

[serene elk]

anyone have wa for nature's grace tracker and eclipse tracker ( which eclipse and time)

[burnt jetty]

You're sitting in elune's chosen in a +10?

with a deva evok what do you expect?

[tiny ridge]

?

[vital hound]

[muted citrus]

I have depression be nice

[burnt jetty]

might be better to go KoTG when you're doing 10s 🙂

[jaunty blaze]

doesnt really matter

[round field]

wrong

ec fine aswell

if ur bad it doesnt matter

[vital hound]

yea but your computer is thriving

[burnt jetty]

ofc its fine, but with deva evoker killing all smallies you might be better off going kotg

[round field]

wrong

[balmy bay]

question to all the balance druids, is your full moon spell also super small now? it has the size of new moon

[round field]

kotg sucks

ur not doing dmg to smallies regardless

[round field]

not sure

no one plays full moon

its very bad

[drifting nova]

boostees dont live smh

had a terrorist key yday and big shock it was his key

1.5m overall in a 10

[lucid olive]

I have noticed that Full Moon procs from OB or Convoke are both very small yeah, but I never really tested it

Noticed it when I did Kyveza since I played 1m Convoke and OB and didn't see a single Full Moon animation..

[balmy bay]

thank you. yeah normal spellcast is just the same for me. not sure if its intended for the new spell density options or a bug

[lucid olive]

idk if it's intentional no, but testing it on dummies it looks like the animation from actually pressing it plays the New Moon + Half Moon animations at the same time

like New Moon comes from an angle, Half Moon drops diagonally and Full Moon just drops both of them?

changing Spell Density to "Everything" is still the same

[balmy bay]

Eternal Moon drops a second moon for new and half so that should be normal

yeah full moon is completely invisible even and all we see is the hero talent

[lucid olive]

oh yeah minor moon exists

[balmy bay]

full moon drops 2 minor moons and from your video thats all we see, full moon is gone

[lucid olive]

oh yeah lol

the animation is just minor moon

[balmy bay]

my poor full moon 🙁

[lucid olive]

honestly probably a blessing for the top down perspective melee players lmao

"OH FULL MOON FLASHBANG FUCKING MOONKIN"

[round field]

i miss

entire raid yelling when they see a moon

[balmy bay]

😂

yup as keeper of the grove full moon is just invisible

[round field]

uh

not really a keeper thing but ye

[balmy bay]

i just mean that there is no visual reference since the minor moons are missing in that spec 🙂

maybe badly worded

[round field]

oh

invisible

i read someting else

[cedar pumice]

remind me pls. why do we press 2nd CA before first Dryad ends on opener

[vital hound]

so you can consume 4pc surges and contribute to next one

[tiny ridge]

when im first u know the key is not timmed

[heavy iris]

is this the new kekkers

[jaunty blaze]

worse

[round field]

definitely worse

[celest rampart]

When playing EC what personal procs / buffs should I be watching and playing around

[cedar pumice]

not getting it, sry. because 2 surges still can fly within first CA before runs out

[heavy iris]

when you incarn again you refresh your boat

[craggy sonnet]

the first one is probably convoke and the insta 2 is probably a CA+surge macro (the dryad starfall does give a starlord stack)

[cedar pumice]

so the damage build-up continues for 2nd CA ? so the last 2 surges will be mega powerful, right?

[lucid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/yacht-boat-king-of-the-world-billionaires-toys-high-liffe-gif-5633152

[fossil hemlock]

The middle 2 are the strongest based on my logs I looked at, but the last 2 would be tiny if you didn't have the middle buffing them

[heavy iris]

the 2 surges you consume from first incarn are biggest but they go towards the pooling for your second dryad as well

[craggy sonnet]

you can actually probably cap naked CA

its so low

cant believe they really left us hanging for this reset again

[scarlet tapir]

@wicked shuttle ill send u 100 million gold if u remove that guy posting pic privileges

[lucid olive]

real

[digital berry]

No way they leave the game in these conditions for one more week right ?

[vital hound]

[lucid olive]

let only orange and green names post pictures in the spec channels

i agree

[fossil hemlock]

Trust in the Gastank

[upper surge]

What do you upgrade with gilded crests if you're a casual?

[digital berry]

Let’s not pretend they literally couldn’t start theorizing some balance changes while rwf was going

[heavy iris]

whatever you want

[upper surge]

Just go for big stat slots like chest?

[heavy iris]

helm/chest/pants/weapon and good trinkets would be first choices

[upper surge]

Alright thanks

Might as well optimize

[lucid olive]

why waste dev hours on old content

need to work on Midnight

[vapid tiger]

Hey @lucid olive I saw in your video you said don’t cancel casts or try not to, touching on that sometimes I might press Starsurgr by a mistake instead of wrath. Would you cancel this or would you let it go through, of course this is not a cast that’s Gona put me into eclipse

[heavy iris]

at least we’re getting new nightborne shoulders in 11.2.5

[upper surge]

you know how they added aug and they will add third spec to demon hunter so everyone has 3 specs?

druid is also getting that but balance is being deleted so we too have 3 specs

[fleet furnace]

Is Aether Kindling bugged? I swear I have to refresh dots even though I'm spamming Starfall.

[lucid olive]

never cancel cast

if you're casting the wrong spell just let it go through

[vital hound]

ur turning into him

aye

[lucid olive]

having gaps in your casts is worse than sticking it through

and if you press Starfire instead of Wrath

just spend the 2 second cast time being real mad at yourself

that way you won't make the mistake again

[craggy sonnet]

the gastank narrative, pleeeeease no

[upper surge]

is this the case in every situation?

[lucid olive]

yes don't cancel casts

[upper surge]

alright alright

[craggy sonnet]

wdym? like it doesnt extend at all?

because you generally do not get to starfall every 3s

[lucid olive]

yeah you'll have to re-dot eventually

you've had to ever since they nerfed AK from 4s to 3s

[empty girder]

What if I enter wrong eclipse? i.e I enter lunar eclipse but I'm hitting a raid boss. Should I continue casting wrath? or should I go starfire there

[lucid olive]

Compendium has that information

[heavy iris]

just do not let yourself get into that position?

[lucid olive]

but if you're in Lunar on ST by mistake you press Wrath

[heavy iris]

you have to press wrath twice to even get there so

[lucid olive]

shit happens

[heavy remnant]

Is https://wowanalyzer.com/ worth using just now? It's marked as out of date - but it gives me hope that I'm playing well(ish) 😄

[normal pilot]

it's good for major things like downtime/cancelled casts

which are some of the most important things you can look at

[unique mirage]

Just got 4set. Anyone else feels the idea is nice but the execution bad? The gathering moonlight buff lasts way too little?

[wild dune]

yes ec tier is beans

[lean sun]

Ec 4 set is cursed yes lol

[wild dune]

bugged also gg

[unique mirage]

OK lol, glad to see i am not the only one eho feels it sucks

[upper surge]

When tank groups mobs in a key I find myself at max astral power but without eclipse, do I spend > enter eclipse > alternate spending and starfire, or do I enter eclipse first and then spend? Asking mostly because someone mentioned that starfire deals more damage than starfall, so I'm wondering if I should spend or try to go into starfire faster

[celest berry]

Yo, quick question all, i'm being told 2 different things, what am i supposed to be focusing on secondary stat wise, Mastery/Haste or Crit/Mastery?

[upper surge]

Might be a stupid question but this has happened enough times in a key that I started wondering

[wild dune]

the former for keys, the latter for raid.

sim urself

[celest berry]

aight cool ty

[heavy remnant]

That's reassuring at least - I'm currently stuck in a denial/acceptance loop. "We can't be this bad, it might be me... wait, no, i'm not that bad... it's the spec.... "

[wild dune]

incarn > dump ap > starfire.

[normal pilot]

well you can always improve

but also the spec is bad

both can be true

[wild dune]

when can spec be good gas

[normal pilot]

maybe in 14.0

[wild dune]

why has hunter/shaman/dk had like 10 reworks in 2 years

[normal pilot]

dev roulette

[wild dune]

surely its our turn

[heavy remnant]

True true - I do need to get into M+ to get the gear, but used to be a good 40% casual player, now 9%

[wild dune]

make orbital baseline and apply all dots

[normal pilot]

just tank for ez keys

[upper surge]

Alright no changes to what I've been doing, big thanks 🙏

[wild dune]

dont forget to shadowmeld to reset dreamstate stacks for hasted starfires

[upper surge]

what

Sounds incredibly cursed

[wild dune]

incredibly based u mean

50% haste on two casts of a spell that crits for 15mil

literally a dps cd

[verbal shadow]

I'm returning to wow and play balance. Does anyone have any tips on what to do first/what should be my weekly things to try and do

Someone said there is a vault to get loot

Not played since legion

[jaunty blaze]

its like the old weekly chest in legion but with more slots from different sources

[verbal shadow]

Ahhh ok

What weekly activity do I have to do for loot

Is it like 4 M+ keys or something

[jaunty blaze]

m+/raid/open world activities (like weekly quests,world boss etc.) or delves

+10 gives the max quality slot

and you unlock slots on 1/4/8 completed

[verbal shadow]

And the tier sets look different now

There are different tier sets for balance?

Or do they swap depending on your balance spec

Surely I don't have to get 3 different tier sets

[jaunty blaze]

yes they did a new approach on the tier set this season by tying the set boni to your chosen hero talents

but they swap with you swapping talents

you just need 1 set for all specs and talents

[vital hull]

Hey guys, on forgeweaver, do you pop Cooldowns on pull or the first group of adds?

So that they are ready in time for amp phase

[heavy iris]

pull

[jaunty blaze]

they are ready either way

amp is 3:30ish

[heavy iris]

you have them for it on pull too and you definitely arent needed to kill adds

[vital hull]

Awesome, thanks!

And then first CA with pylon health at like 7ish seconds left

[dry sonnet]

when i use CA again in fight do i press it do 2 starsurges and then press trees ?

like in the opener ?

[digital berry]

Have they ever posted patch notes on the weekend ?

[digital berry]

You won’t have trees when you double ca

But if it’s a single ca yeah

You still wanna time trees to end with eclipse so it’s gonna be 2 gcds in

[dry sonnet]

ty

[verbal shadow]

That's great, thank you!

Any suggestions on how to gear up a fresh 80?

[digital berry]

You can buy cheap ok ish ilvl stuff from the ah

Do weeklies

Bountiful delves 8+

[fossil hemlock]

If you just levelled it, fly around to renown vendors (assuming this isn't your first char) and gather the weathered crests. You can craft 675 gear for 30 weathered crests and a few hundred gold per item

[heavy iris]

usually its 3, surge surge wrath

[digital berry]

Its 2, surge surge trees

[fossil hemlock]

Not according to compendium

I don't know why the apl adds the wrath but I chose to ignore it

[heavy iris]

apl adds wrath

[digital berry]

It’d 12 seconds ca 10 seconds dryad and 10 seconds trees

I mean

[lucid olive]

APL is not a guide on how to play the spec

[heavy iris]

so what the robot does is not the most optimized way to do the rotation?

when anyone asks what gear to wear the only answer is “robot” so when youre asking the rotation why would the answer not be “robot”

[heavy iris]

sim it 100 times and show how many times it changes

[lucid olive]

Idk, this is going to sound rude as hell but it is not meant that way, if you're curious about why the APL is not a guide on how to play the spec, you should try writing APL yourself

and you'll understand why

[heavy iris]

i guess it just doesnt make sense to me on how that wouldnt be the idea of what to follow, but youre right i dont write it so i dont have that insight

[lucid olive]

If you can take the APL and make it consistently not send that Wrath

then be my guest

but the Wrath there is definitely not optimal

[drifting nova]

only just realised

but does the raid not have a skip quest

[normal pilot]

you're conflating sequence with the apl. the apl is the direction, the sequence is what happens in a single case given all the randomness that can happen

[fossil hemlock]

Renown, same as last tier

[drifting nova]

good job I played last tier

shaking my head

[normal pilot]

just because something happens in the sequence doesn't mean you should follow it exactly

the sequence generally is not useful to look at outside of debugging the apl

[lucid olive]

the balance APL is also a total mess when it comes to readability

[normal pilot]

if you're trying to glean some information from it you're giving it value that doestn' exist

[lucid olive]

and I think looking at the current APL and trying to decipher how the spec should be played from it you're just gonna end up with a headache unless you're some mega code savant

[heavy iris]

that makes sense, i just misunderstood for sure

i dont really look at it for the entire rotation, just mainly that opener and i thought because it always has that wrath in there that was the right move

[lucid olive]

I tried making treants cast when the Dryad had been active for 2 globals

but it would still Wrath first

[heavy iris]

i appreciate the correction

[lucid olive]

assume because you have Dreamstate on the Wrath too so the cast is lower than the GCD idk

[normal pilot]

looking at "opener" is also not always the best thing, depending on the spec & apl

most of the time the opener is irrelevant or within a margin of error so you don't always have ppl trying to "optimize" it

it'll vary spec by spec and apl by apl and even patch by patch

[heavy iris]

yeah that all makes sense

[lucid olive]

I can't wait for Midnight

removing current APL and starting over

hopefully Control of the Dream gets binned

[normal pilot]

generally short time frames are just not relevant or interesting to look at so ppl just don't care much about it

given wow TC is an extremely tiny thing

just not enough interest/time ppl are willing to spend on it

ya the apl'll have to get rewritten and i'll prolly enable spellqueuing

given all the queuing bugs

maybe. idk if current apl syntax can properly support it

[unique cypress]

when discord lockdown for buff?

[normal pilot]

you missed it it was already locked down

[nova ocean]

Monday tuning believe

[unique cypress]

when lockdown #2

[jaunty blaze]

this doesnt get funnier the 100th time ngl

[unique cypress]

beeing last isnt funny too

[echo field]

As if we boomies ever stop talking lol!

[strange edge]

We still coping?

[surreal sorrel]

always

[strange edge]

Just checking in since no buffs

[random wadi]

Random question, are spells affected by buffs at the time they’re cast or when they hit the target? Asking because if I’m at max range when casting the last empowered starsurge and CA ends mid-flight, does it still get buffed?

[plucky valley]

Greeeat Q

[jaunty blaze]

starsurge is calculated on cast

[tame dome]

I am still simming higher with EC than I do with KoTG now I have 4set. I'm left wondering... considering I will likely fluff up the cooldown timings and how annoying and desynced they are, might I actually do better dmg with EC in a realistic raid scenario?

[jaunty blaze]

do you mind posting the sims

[outer oasis]

U might have high haste right?

Kotg needs only few hast but more crit

[tame dome]

I'm likely quite high on haste

very low crit

[jaunty blaze]

i mean even if you sim higher on EC i doubt you will have a significantly better time in raid on it

[outer oasis]

Yes that’s why best sim of kotg is 20 10 50 20 which I saw on bloodmallet

[round field]

shut up

[jaunty blaze]

do you know you can put sockets onto your rings?

[tame dome]

mm good shout

not got around to that yet

[jaunty blaze]

and necklace aswell

[inland sleet]

why nobody talking about the incoming buff ?🦉

[jaunty blaze]

2 each

[tame dome]

I REFUSE to put anything in that neck

it irks me

[warm atlas]

There are no buffs coming lol

[jaunty blaze]

you do you was just saying you can

[inland sleet]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/war-within-class-tuning-incoming-–-september-3/1937024

[jaunty blaze]

SO FUNNY HAHAHAH

you are for sure the first to post taht today

[inland sleet]

idk

I actualy scrolled pretty far and found nothing

[round field]

yea cause it got deleted

[jaunty blaze]

it got deleted

[outer oasis]

It’s 2024 bro

Time walker

[inland sleet]

Damn

I'm speed

[tame dome]

bro

you got me excited

now I'm so sad

[jaunty blaze]

and thats why these get deleted

[warm atlas]

If enough people whine, we might get like a 3% aura buff but we are "adults"

[jaunty blaze]

so ppl dont get baited

[tame dome]

I kinda think

[outer oasis]

We literally need buffs both on tier set and ap spenders

[fossil hemlock]

LITERALLY

[round field]

quite literally

[fossil hemlock]

No other solution

[jaunty blaze]

i mean there will eventually be some but when that is going to be

[tame dome]

that they are holding off on the moonkin buffs to prove to people that even when we are dog bottom, we don't whine as much as other classes like Ret, contrary to the narrative that people usually push about moonkins

[jaunty blaze]

who knows

[fossil hemlock]

Yeah blizz doesn't give a rats ass about that

[warm atlas]

They dont give a rats ass about class balance either. You have resto and feral as options and you are paying your sub. What's the issue lol?

[fossil hemlock]

Yes I'm sure they're actually just fully ignoring class balance

You're right

[jaunty blaze]

[tame dome]

maybe just currently working overtime on Midnight or Legion remix instead of balancing a patch that's 'past it'

[normal pilot]

it's labor day weekend nobodys' working

[jaunty blaze]

labor day at the end of august smh

[sonic surge]

its the final season they dont care

[normal pilot]

preorder sales are prolly good anyways

[fossil hemlock]

It's week 3 of a 20+ week tier, why are you expecting it now?

[normal pilot]

ppl need their housing

[sonic surge]

i cant wait to be buffed the week before prepatch

[warm atlas]

Not fully ignoring, but they dont care enough to actually bring about meaningful and expedient changes. If there are any buffs coming, expect your typical 3 to 5% aura buff.

[jaunty blaze]

i doubt that but it remains to be seen

all you can do is wait

or reroll

or quit the game

plenty options

[warm atlas]

Like poe2 free weekend 😎

[unique cypress]

or cry loud

[jaunty blaze]

or that

[unique cypress]

and close discord

[fossil hemlock]

Ironically 5% is what we need to be middle of the pack for boss damage in raid

[jaunty blaze]

if boss damage was the only problem

[warm atlas]

What problems do you have with the spec? I have my issues but they tend to be very different from what others dont like

[jaunty blaze]

it simply does no damage in any multitarget scenario in raid

and all of your damage is tied to your cds

[warm atlas]

Like people are willing to put up with a terrible damage profile and ramp so long as they are middle of the pack lol

[jaunty blaze]

boss damage isnt the worst but it doesnt make up for the rest

we are still relatively close to the bottom in terms of st damage

[fossil hemlock]

"Terrible damage profile" as if UH and Demo wasn't super in demand for multiple consecutive expansions for being ST burst monsters

[jaunty blaze]

i mean many encounters fit the damage profile we offer this season i would say

with damage amps and such

but its just not enough

[warm atlas]

Are you claiming we are ST burst monsters?

[jaunty blaze]

we are

[fossil hemlock]

Yes?

Lmao

[jaunty blaze]

and thats it

[fossil hemlock]

If you don't have high burst damage that's a you-problem

[warm atlas]

I think you should specify that kotg with convoke has the potential to be that ..but I dont think EC is single target burst

[jaunty blaze]

we were talking about raid tho

and kotg is the dominant spec for that currently

except for soul hunters

[sick laurel]

soulbinder in mythic

[jaunty blaze]

you can play both

[fossil hemlock]

If you go EC on soulbinders you're padding

[warm atlas]

I dont play lock or dh, so educate me here... whats their setup / ramp like?

[fossil hemlock]

Or your raid team has no natural cleave

[jaunty blaze]

i fell for the ec bait on soulbinder once

miss me with that

[fossil hemlock]

Assuming you mean my comment about UH and Demo being in demand in previous expansions, both had 20 seconds of ramp before giga payoff damage

[warm atlas]

I misread lol yes UH and Demo. I'll need to check them out, idk enough to make a qualitative statement on whether their ramp feels more natural than the crap moonkin has to go through or not

[fossil hemlock]

What feels unnatural about the ramp?

[jaunty blaze]

is there even any

you press cds and blast

[fossil hemlock]

There is in m+, but that ramp isn't unnatural, it's just multidotting until you blast

[little matrix]

does anyone have an astral power WA reccomendation?

[lucid olive]

https://wago.io/OiBalance

just rip the one from here

[little matrix]

did that, thanks!

[night silo]

When balance will be buffed

[mighty mica]

never

[warm valley]

Its already done they just didnt tell anyone

[little sphinx]

anything you guys would improve? sim tells me to lower haste to get some crit, but idk how i feel about that, dont wanna be casting slower, harder to cast and dodge shit in m+ (i'm a noob) https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1HQ1eaDACHx1aZB6nkMywr

[lofty depot]

well if u care more about m+ than raid u keep haste

[little sphinx]

kk thanks, will do
I wonder if 4,3~4,5m is kinda the topend rn, can't find anything to improve gear wise
still need to sim the voidglass combo, but that would be kinda lame since i picked a myth dagger from the vault

[lofty depot]

its not

[little sphinx]

and i vendored jastor already, it was 671 tho probably wouldnt beat hero stuff now

[lofty depot]

but ur simming ec on st on 5m

so idk what u think ur expecting

[little sphinx]

idk what i'm doing, second wow season, trying to figure out if this is fine to push higher than +13

xD

[jaunty blaze]

you can push higher than that with your gear

[little sphinx]

so long as my group helps interrupt and cc

[jaunty blaze]

dunno what the top m+ players currently do but its possible

[lofty depot]

u could not sim ur gear, take mastery and haste gear

and push 15s with pugs

[craggy sonnet]

why did you ditch your delve belt?

[quaint wasp]

all you can do is scale up with ilvl once your optimized, haste took a dump because we are really just sustaining between cd windows. peals and valleys my man.

peaks*

[jaunty blaze]

hmm yeah delve belt should still beat out hero track belt

[little sphinx]

i have a 691 one, figured since i got a 701 one with a socket, that might be better, but was sloppy to not sim it

[craggy sonnet]

why do you have a 691 delve belt?

[little sphinx]

idk people told me you can't 701 this season

[jaunty blaze]

huh

[craggy sonnet]

what does that even mean?

[fossil hemlock]

You can

[lofty depot]

"people"

[little sphinx]

ah really

[lofty depot]

hmm

[little sphinx]

LOL

[craggy sonnet]

like you cant upgrade it anymore?

[little sphinx]

yeah

[fossil hemlock]

People assumed the quest wouldn't be up after patch drop

[craggy sonnet]

i think you can

[jaunty blaze]

ahh

[craggy sonnet]

and you should

[fossil hemlock]

You can

[little sphinx]

this is good to know, ill get to it

[craggy sonnet]

and then you just take this gear (which is prolly the best you can get from m+) and sim all the delve belt effects + cloak gems

and you should go up

[little sphinx]

giga

[quaint wasp]

the moment you grind the 701, a new belt will drop, dont bother

701 boe belt is 50k over here, just do that if you need something that badly.

[craggy sonnet]

wtf?

the delve belt is much better than any other 701

upgrading it takes like 20minutes

[stone ledge]

701 belt sims higher til like 4/6 mythic lmao

[jaunty blaze]

imagine paying for a belt if you get one for free thats better

[craggy sonnet]

also, you should start simming "Latest" and not "Weekly"

seems like some bugs were fixed that nerfed your dps numby 🙂

[normal pilot]

or maybe some bugs were added

[real flax]

hell fucking nah

hero belt sims better

[craggy sonnet]

oh nooo .. not more bugs

[digital berry]

If you have some wonky ass belt power sure

Or no belt power selected at all in your sim

[round field]

wrong?

hero belt is only 3 ilvl higher...

[lofty depot]

bet has funny charge bolt

[round field]

mby healer power...

[craggy sonnet]

@normal pilot huuh?

so .. this would want us to weave surges after starfire?

not that it really matters

because when do you surge but want the cleave

[lofty depot]

first boss priory

2nd boss eco

[fossil hemlock]

Why are you surging first boss priory?

[craggy sonnet]

you think this would be more dmg on first priory?

[lofty depot]

giving examples

chill out

first boss gambit

where u could be prioing the boss instead of starfalling

hm

[craggy sonnet]

no yea, but like would you even

thats the question

[lofty depot]

shrug

[craggy sonnet]

first boss gambit maybe

but the adds kinda need to die

[lofty depot]

yea die to my starfire

[craggy sonnet]

but i dont have any clue how big of an impact this even is

to make it competitive with starfalling

[lofty depot]

soulbinder

lock in

[craggy sonnet]

okok i hear you

[lofty depot]

(i will be playing keeper)

[dense steeple]

Got a new aio

Im having so much fun with it

[lucid olive]

lmao

I want one of those as well

but my PC is tucked away under my desk

so maybe when I upgrade to a bigger desk eventually

[normal pilot]

don't forget the lcd case fans too

[craggy sonnet]

what did i jsut hear in the bench podcast with dorki cooking some plater scripts to have a keybind that hides all nameplates already moonfire'd?

is that a thing that can even exist or darn waffle cat yapping

[normal pilot]

you can't actually hide them but you can prolly change their alpha via script

[lofty depot]

wasnt there one that changed the size

or yea lowered the opacity

[pallid bay]

can change alpha yeah, they still exist and they're still clickable

[digital berry]

Ok but why would you want smth like that

[storm frigate]

so did they announce any class changes yet?

[lofty depot]

nop

next week forsure

theyre on vacation

[normal pilot]

it's free poe2 weekend logoff wow login poe

[digital berry]

2 weeks on this dogshit patch

[storm frigate]

Soon ™

[jaunty blaze]

[digital berry]

They had a whole week to do smth lets not pretend this vacation is relevant

[storm frigate]

also Monster and Memories open beta tomorrow

[pallid bay]

because its easier to see what isnt dotted ofc

[digital berry]

How are you gonna see casts to interrupt / incap / typhoon

[pallid bay]

by not holding down the button that hides all nameplates

keep up

[dense steeple]

i will not be getting those

i thought about it, but its not worth it to me

[normal pilot]

did you at least get a case with lcd screen

[craggy sonnet]

well, i guess partly because it makes it much easier visually to distinguish the mobs you need to hit?

[round field]

🍝

[craggy sonnet]

suuuurely, you can condition it in a way that stills shows cast bars

or negates the moonfire filter

[digital berry]

Color coding it is still probably the best way to go around it in the end

[round field]

hiding sounds bad...

color coding is good enough

[scarlet hamlet]

what is crafting priority if im still using the baton and dont have a hero track mh, do i recraft the baton?

[digital berry]

Yeah

Craft a 2h 720

[scarlet hamlet]

and put ascension on it?

embelishment?

[lofty depot]

yes

[azure edge]

What can i sim for M+ ?

[lofty depot]

wear a 681 bracer til next week

[lofty depot]

faq compendium

[azure edge]

Ok

[past nacelle]

In the m+ build where we cant solar eclipse, are we still casting wrath ST?

[pallid idol]

never

only to get into ur lunar

[past nacelle]

okay

[pallid idol]

ANYONE HAVE KOTG M+ AOE/HYBRID ST SPEC COOKED YET?

[lofty depot]

ur not playing it in m+

so no

[lofty depot]

should read the ec aoe prio

also read ur hero talent called lunar calling

[past nacelle]

Will do ty

[craggy sonnet]

what for some raid boss?

or m+

[craggy sonnet]

oh shit

[candid dragon]

guys how i can simulated like ""dungeon slice " now we cant help

[prime gorge]

Guys, I'm a Balance Druid and I have some questions regarding simulation. For dungeons, is it better to sim using DungeonSlice or Patchwerk with 5 Boss? Another question: does trinket simulation work well on Raidbots, or is it better to use Wowhead/Bloodmallet?

[lofty depot]

read literally above ur message

and tierlists for anything are troll. sim ur shit. never use bloodmallet

[dreamy locust]

Fellas, I am a moonkin of the druid type, I have some inquerys pertaining computations, is it better to computate using dungeonreplica or single target with cinco enemies?

I have found no info in the discord

[lofty depot]

seek help

[mighty mica]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma-hit-jerma-slap-slap-jerma985-gif-5877194680309495682

[dreamy locust]

send help

[gilded wolf]

@lofty depot

[lofty depot]

gamers

duality of man

[sinful surge]

bigwigs i think

sorry to necro lol, i was just thinking bout this

[craggy sonnet]

yes its bw

quite easily spottable by the bw icon next to it :3

but its a new feature this season

there were weakauras doing this before

[dark star]

As a fairly casual player (I do delves and casual normal and some heroic raids with my friends), looking to craft some items. I notice the guide suggests going 2H weapon craft is often the best. I currently have a 684 2H or a 694 1H (plexhammer) and 675 OH (fractilus). Should I just craft the 2H and like, bracers for example?

[craggy sonnet]

yes

try to get the gilded crests to craft a 2h at 720

[dark star]

You need 2 sparks for 2H though right?

[craggy sonnet]

yes

but you save crests

[dark star]

Ok, I've never crafted anything since they introduced this new system several expansions ago

[craggy sonnet]

compared to say crafting mh+oh

[dark star]

I have 38 gilded at the moment, but I also do have 2 of these https://i.imgur.com/oqIMw2r.png

[craggy sonnet]

yea, just try to farm the remaining gilded .. you need 60

via delves or m+

[lucid olive]

why do you have 2

[dark star]

Ok, I guess delves it is. As I don't do M+ really

[craggy sonnet]

i was wondering the same and probably because they bought one?

[dark star]

I think someone told me to buy one, from another group

[craggy sonnet]

good friend

[dark star]

To craft 2 low level, then recraft when I got the 60

[craggy sonnet]

this person

ah hm

[plucky valley]

Quick question about how to sim for balance m+: So basically, H̸͋̈̈́̕o̶͂͒̽͘w̴̆̍̿͠ ̶͂̌͋͝I̵͌͆̉͘ ̷̱̻̌b̵̍̎̃̎e̵͂̎̄̈ ̵̊̅́̚d̸̈́̅̒̇o̶̎̓̒̐î̵̍́́n’ th̸̐̽͐̇e̷̔͛̇͊ ̵̅̒̾̈s̴̃̈́̏̂i̴m ͒̚c̴̓̋͗̒ó̷rr̙̀̚ê̴̋͠͠c̸̊͒tlẏ̶̛͕̔ ̷̏̀͐̌f̷̢̠̱͊o̸͋̀͐r ̟eac͛̀͊̃h̶͙̾̊͠ ̸̾̑̿͘k̶̋̈́̀͘ē̴̡̖̝y̷̿̽́̕ ya d̸̛̈́̄̎i̶͋̀̀̂g̷̑̋͌͘?̷͐͊͐̚ ̶̛̑PER̵͊͆͌ͅỈ̷OD̔̇̑̚T̴̖̋̉̿ ̵̆̄͑́!

[dark star]

I have absolutely 0 idea how it works basically, so was just trusting whatever people said 😄

[lucid olive]

you spent too long on a real bad joke archon

[craggy sonnet]

i mean, it seems like you are not going to be done with runed crests anytime soon

so that wasnt great advice

[plucky valley]

:/

Yeah that’s fair I guess

[dark star]

Yeah I'm only 687 ilvl at the moment

[plucky valley]

The days are long. I don’t like my job, I think I’m depressed…

[sinful surge]

play schedule 1 and sell drugs

[dark star]

Only just come back to retail because SoD ended...

[plucky valley]

Sanctum of domination ended years ago

[lofty depot]

[sinful surge]

didn't end soon enough

I think my friend is annoyed that I dont just play my boomkin always

[lucid olive]

should talk to boxna

[sinful surge]

but being capped on everything and not getting any groups is just not fun

[dark star]

Still feels fresh enough with all the runs I did for the mounts tbh (I never it did it when it was fresh)

[lofty depot]

dont talk to boxna

[dark star]

So tldr, forget the runed crests, craft a 2H with both my sparks after getting 60 gilded?

[lofty depot]

yes

[craggy sonnet]

i would say so. but if you are not pressed for gold

[lofty depot]

its the biggest upgrade u generally ever get

[dark star]

I got about 300k

[lofty depot]

u can get gilded from delves

[craggy sonnet]

you could also already craft with that runed crest now that you bought it anyways

[lofty depot]

just slam them

[craggy sonnet]

just to help you get the 60 gilded

but then asap recraft with the gilded

[lofty depot]

dont u get gilded from 6s or 7s?

or is it only 10s?

[dark star]

All of mine were from delves basically

Been doing 11s

No idea where they start giving you them

What is the best 2H, I notice the guide doesn't really say what the item is, just that you can craft a 2H

[craggy sonnet]

but yea, if you can finish that content with your current weap

then just go and farm them up

[dark star]

Yeah I might do that

[craggy sonnet]

there is a staff and a 2h mace

they are identical except for name and transmog

but make sure to craft one with INT

[dark star]

I see it yes, bounding baton

[craggy sonnet]

there are also ones with agi/str

[dark star]

vs agility careful crutch

[craggy sonnet]

also, make sure to have them crafted at max rank (5) which is 720 ilvl

[lofty depot]

well actually u make it agility so u can play feral cuz boomkins sucks

[craggy sonnet]

you can select that from a little dorpdown in the top right of the crafting order thing

[lofty depot]

"oopsie rl, cant play boomkin, sowwie"

[dark star]

I've played feral since burning crusade, only just swapped to balance to give it a try 😄

[lofty depot]

tragic time to "try"

[dark star]

At least it's not too terrible to swap around nowadays, secondary stats might not be ideal and there's the weapon of course, but still

Not a huge barrier

[lofty depot]

yea, i got good polearm from first boss

[dark star]

For a non min-maxer like me at least

[lofty depot]

so i just run around in delves as bear

[dark star]

Crit/Haste yeah, so peerless

Missive

sorry crit mastery?

[lofty depot]

well depends what u care about

mastery/haste is fine

ull gain a few % if u do crit/mastery in raid

but its worse in m+

[dark star]

I was just checking wowhead basically and parroting what's on there 😄

Which is int, mastery, crit, vers, haste. But haste I guess "feels" better?

Feverflare then

[lofty depot]

well critting feels good

[dark star]

I dont even have proper sct at the moment I dont think

Barely pay attention to it

The numbers feel meaningless coming from SoD/classic base client

Are these "augmentation matrix" items not available yet? I notice I can choose the old ones for spark of fortunes

[lofty depot]

theyre the old ones

from undermine

but it was for the turbo boost levels

[dark star]

Ok understood, thanks. In that case. I have everything I need now except the enchanted gilded crest

So just another 22 gilded crests needed

Thanks all

[lofty depot]

next week u can craft bracer with ur enchanted runed crest

[candid dragon]

i cant understand how sim weackly

dude help ssome guide?

spanish guide maybe

[lofty depot]

use google translate?

surely thats big tech

[drifting nova]

si

[modest orchid]

do we ss in aoe with 4 set

[jaunty blaze]

No

Or do you mean kotg 4 set

Then you send those buffed surges

[modest orchid]

ya kotg

[dense steeple]

@lofty depot i think you like this

[jaunty blaze]

[lofty depot]

how am i the target audience for this?

[lofty depot]

if u have the buffed surges yes u send surges... how else u gonna use the buff

[twin lotus]

Hell yeah

Buffs

[digital berry]

Hello

[native egret]

You’d put a ramen bowl

[lofty depot]

id put it in ur ramen bowl

[digital berry]

Pls

[lucid olive]

you know why

[lofty depot]

i hate anime

[lucid olive]

wtf

hate anime but watch gta rp

hm

[lofty depot]

completely different

i watch wwe

thats hick anime

[lucid olive]

fanboys over gta rp rap diss tracks and hates anime

hm

[lofty depot]

i saw a short and thought it was funny

YOU LITERALLY DM ME WEEKLY ABOUT NEW DRAMA

[lucid olive]

yeah

[lofty depot]

DONT FUCKING TURN THIS SHIT ON ME

[lucid olive]

i think anime is cool

[stone ledge]

Dan da Dan my beloved

[plucky valley]

I like anime too I like cuddling on the couch with my man’s and watching whichever anime he chooses

[dense steeple]

Huge fan of Arctic xalatoes fan ark

[maiden pasture]

WE like this

[dense steeple]

Who is WE

[dense steeple]

Ok but imagine you get a little circulartv screen on your water cooler and you stream anime to it

[lucid olive]

its short for Wednesday Enjoyers

https://tenor.com/view/wednesday-wednesday-addams-gif-16013306465423815312

[dense steeple]

[plucky valley]

I would’ve never fathomed this and I think you might be living in 2055

[lofty depot]

yea but cuz watching anything on a 2" screen is useful

fit gamz whole 2" cock on it

[plucky valley]

Roasteeeeeeed

Gamz catching strays like the animal shelter

[dense steeple]

Whats the point of putting that on my aio if its just gonna take up the whole screen and make me say "why is gamz cock the size of my monitor"

Everyone would be like "wow he must be hung!"

Which we all already assume ofcourse

[lucid olive]

at least tag me bitch

guy is too scared of retaliation to ping me

[dense steeple]

True

[lucid olive]

@lofty depot

[dense steeple]

Get fuckin bodied

[lofty depot]

ive killed less bosses and am higher

dont everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[lucid olive]

killed same amount of bosses

[lofty depot]

no

[lucid olive]

yes

[dense steeple]

"You killed plexus 3 time ive only done it twice"

[lucid olive]

my feral loomithar log doesnt count for my moonkin all star

lmfao

[lofty depot]

oh uve only killed it once

smh

fugg loser

[lucid olive]

yeah my guild has hands so i'm not required to babysit em

[lofty depot]

true

[grim crown]

What's your guys highest overalls in an m+

[woven pike]

Less than dk lowest

[lofty depot]

i live vicariously thru dwilkz, so like 11m

[lofty depot]

clu

[drifting nova]

is platers stacking broke or

am I dumb

[lofty depot]

could be both

[drifting nova]

the toggle dun stack

[hasty dove]

when's the boomie buffs coming?

[lofty depot]

next week forsure

[drifting nova]

whys my rl got a best pi addon

that has me 3rd

I thought pi chicken was giga bad

[loud kettle]

maybe it hasnt been updated since sl s4

[lilac patrol]

hey, I'm looking for an alt spec to play how is boomie doing in m+ lately?

[lucid olive]

maybe it assumes hes feral

[lucid olive]

its okay

not the best but not the worst either

don't play it unless you find the gameplay interesting

[drifting nova]

idk he sent it for both bosses st

and 2 differnet lists

[lilac patrol]

is it not faceroll like last ssn?

[drifting nova]

hell if I know

[lucid olive]

its the same as last season

gameplay hasn't changed

but power level wise it's noticeably worse

[lofty depot]

it can be faceroll and bad

or faceroll and mediocre

[lilac patrol]

got it. tysm!

[amber raven]

hey, it good idea i craft to wrist to 720?

with

[lofty depot]

sim it

[amber raven]

okok

[maiden pasture]

which smart chickens feel like tossing me a cheeky log review? 👀
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LVYFQ1xZzjcy3CvD?fight=17&source=256&type=summary

I havent put too much effort into bamkin this season cause i had to learn feral but i must be doing something wrong

[lofty depot]

maya, u know better than this

why r we trolling

[maiden pasture]

ye i did craft that without thinking u righht

[lofty depot]

we out here losing 0.5%

thats crazy

[maiden pasture]

wait what are u supposed to go

XD

i took talents early and never changed ngl

[lofty depot]

sotf crashing, instead of cosmos and ui

[maiden pasture]

cosmos feels so nice tho

[lofty depot]

u can take cosmos for a little uhh ease, but its -0.3%

[maiden pasture]

yeah ill change

[amber raven]

arctic will you send you logs for check what talents you use raid?

[lofty depot]

garyeet

u keep using trees in the middle of eclipse

[amber raven]

thx

[lucid olive]

yeah i can log review

you're bad

[maiden pasture]

ok

understood

[lucid olive]

alright that'll be 20 euro

[maiden pasture]

[flat ice]

In keys is there a reason people are going over soft cap for haste and mastery is it just a lack of gear or is it beneficial to go over cap still?

[maiden pasture]

u dont get paid for the bench

[maiden pasture]

soft cap isnt a thing worth thinking about

u go what the robot says is best

and u dont question

[lucid olive]

sim your character, stat caps are useless information you dont interact with

[lofty depot]

maybe ur thoughts on something being a "soft cap" are unwarranted

[maiden pasture]

yo did the log review stop arctic or was that it

[lofty depot]

im doing things