#balance
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Good. Good.
Do blizzard ever balance around m+ or is it always the raid?
Both
f m+ give me st buffs
best u get is wrath 10% inc
Hmm ok, so probably ec nerf and kotg buff
ec nerf kek
Ec doesnt need nerfs 
Ohh I know, its blizzard tho
Take it
I want wildstalker buffs..
based
Cba ravage
They buffer mages mid race when they already very good
Yeah boomkin dirty unwanted child aoe nerf smaller ST buiff inc 
;/
Starfall buff incoming
This guy is something else man
bro
have u not seen
this guy over the last 2 days
Bro doxxed himself like 3 times
random screenshots of him dead in keys, doing bottom dps in a +3
screenshots of his whole discord with random anime titty servers
all dottet
when u wonder what the pugs are doing
Its like watching the joker movie as @tiny ridge slowly descents into madness (ret pala reroll)
oh damn, that is really good
Apart from x
Pull is 30 sec in and you just pressed incarn 5 sec ago
Ur foe is off cd
I no longer believe this person is here seriously
But somehow u pressed 10 starfires
incarn 5s ago and still has a dreamstate stack
Sent foe start of pull
Woe*
while u have pigsoviet who will not shut up unless he gets pi
Playing demo in Vault and getting PI 
at least it looks like hes locking in
gg

Because i was top dps
bro got trolled
on mythic even?XD
wish i could get pi on nexus king so i could murder the boss in intermission
but dev one trick refuses to go aug and only one priest
gg
Its more fun...
idek what it does isnt it just some bleed proc on urbleeds
like u dont acc play around it or
i was only once top dps in a duingd lets go
Yea
Feral as bleed spec more fun than bite simulator
I lowkey miss tf reset on kills
any idea why my plater script is broken this morning
should be colouring the whole nameplate right?
i think im not carryable in higher keys
iqni are you smart enough to help me port my script into a mod
The keys are timed
Probably not
Just dl a new one

above 10s are not
Just search wago for nameplate color
fine
I had a script that didnt work
And i had to rewrite it
But i dont remember at all what i did
Not very hard if you have basic coding knowledge tho
I use a mod now cause i didnt back it up
Used to have a script
i will lever every class now ;/
can you send me yours
Im not home

And that site is unusable on mobile
yea holy moly
its in 2 hours 37 minutes 24 seconds
buffs inc
ill play hc dungs ;/
fasten your belts
did they fix the EC bug of starsurges no cleaving? dont see the pin anymore
Yes
@round field maybe stonevault mobs are cringe
On Soul Hunters transition when one of the bosses go in middle, do I still wanna spam Starfall? I know it'll refresh the dots on the other two, but does Starfall also hit them?
Mby your dungeon mob colors are higher prio
Show me the mod section
Or just drag the dot color mod to the top
So it takes prio over everything else
Drag it above aura recolor names
cant apparently
but i set it to 99 and everything else to 98
literally click dragging doesnt do anything
its alphabetically sorted
they're mods
Idk
idfk
u dont play correctly so that makes sense
im trying
why are you still interacting with that dude arctic
Your not even using incarn
i do use
well the guy told me if im already in elune not to use them

Have you read the dreamgrove site in the pins?
yes
Go read rotation part again
And come back with any question's or things you dont understand
You didn't read it tho, go read it again
as u say
dotting htings
my brother in christ
u dot everying with moonfire, and then when theyre grouped u stack
why arent we dotting boss
why are we dotting in cds
we talked about this
stop pressing this
macro it to ur cds ur thinking about shit that doesnt matter
why are we using trinket for fun
when cd is 15 seconds away
to do dmg

15 sec incarn and t rinket 30
idk a world were incarning this set
the int scales down when u press it
dont hit the pvp dummies
u lost half the int pressing it 15 seconds not with ur cds
they dont have same cd
incarn is on a charge cooldown, you dont have to use it the second it comes up
i need to roll really quick before i say something
press incarn when your trinket is ready
ok i will press incarn only with my trinket
thats not what he said
well it is


stop using ur cds at the end of packs
but ofc if you're on 1 charge and your recharge is 50 seconds and your trinket cd is 80 seconds
you will regain a charge before your trinket is back up and you can send
but that usually just happens once a key
just get into the habit of sending incarn + trinket on the first pull
Pressing incarn without trinket is fine
Pressing trinket without incarn is illegal
and never trinket without incarn
why are we sending incarn when boss has 6% hp left
button came up
To do more damage for boss overall?
based tbh
hekili told me to press
lol
true was getting beat by tank cuz he sent cds without dots on boss
ye i cant im just not able to play game , do this not do this this wrong this time use this this hat not now this use now trinket now not now dot no
i cant
You tell em chief
ur sending cds at the end of mobs hp
Now make ret paladin
Reality can be whatever you want
as opposed to you or
?
this game is all about minmaxxing, people put 100s of hours into learning a class and still make mistakes, doesnt mean theyre shit just means they can improve
but stop attention seeking in class discords fr
hekili btw
just 100 hours? thats not much
Hundreds is not 100..
So bad
POWERFUL
still bellow 1k
not necessarily..
Are you counting your braincells or
intresting
if you have 1150 dollars you dont say "oh i got thousands of bucks"
im happy that i dont live in us 😄
Drop hekili become blaster like me

neither do i
Spec is braindead...
so am i
i refuse to contribute to snapshotting
Dont even need to worry about snapshotting anymore..

Hekili is scary good at feral
just rip as TF about to end and youre good
Just press rip in pandemic
dude the only thing it cooks
bro came and quit in 1day
is it gets a bit fucking
balance druid any%
with the bite procs
Now it's time to go to the DK Discord @tiny ridge
nah im not making dk
dg farmville when
DG fantasy premier league
i just have to accept that im useless
lol woe you
are you scared
you seem scared
relegated?
nah man
amorim leaving next week
Ole back at the wheel
steering us through the storm
i think he just leaves honestly
doesn't get sacked just dips
did you see Mourinho left his club too
easy
2 years ago he said that when he leaves Fenerbahce he was gonna go to some bottom tier club in PL
United calls
wasted 4k in cs wasted samea mount on league and still shit in every game 🙁
time spent enjoying is not time wasted
Cant imagine someone who cant play balance gets higher than iron
do you see I enjoy ?
yes
emerald 3
which is not high
eune
sona main
emerald 3 eune is like silver 2 euw
was emerald on euw too
Tells you a lot about it
pick up an instrument
You sound miserable
i was in music school for 6years
and barley know the scales
im just useless i have to accept that
looks like idk
No flame
isnt he turkish
I hope not...
knowing scales is overrated
idk guy said somthing about music
No im talking to sheep
typical austrian humor sheep
Thats racist and not very nice of you
Like idk serbia or something
you're gonna get many angry kebab wielders holy
unlucky spawn
sounds like ass though
It sounds like c major
Major damage to my ears
no banger has been written in c major
A minor is the same but starting on a instead
and thats a banger
Why are we talking about minors now
You are lying yea
U guys are weird
buffs 
were buff??
🙁
surely they'l take my pisslow class
Bruno mars automatic banger
Ya'll got any of those buffs
class tuning where
just did a +10 gambit, shammy did 40M the first pack
and I did less than tank

Not a class issue I fear
hahaha
it got melt under 5s idk what I can do
This is not a class issue
M+ is the one place I dont feel horrid playing boomkin
dont worry you are not the only one
stuff dying fast is a blessing. its when you are top dmg is when it gets scary
"haha classic moonkin sandbagging"
classic moonkin starfire only effective spell :D:D:D
and no mana
good old rti
times*
honestly dont know what I can do, I only did sunfire, elune, incar, warrior, and mobs all dead before I even finish the starfire
well true.
you want to apply moonfire also
when tank is gathering, than ideally 1 sunfire and then incarn and blast the shit out of everything
it literally got melt under 5s man
start dotting earlier
and be quicker about it
tank was on the mount so I didnt.
low keys you can easily just face tank a couple mobs anyways
just pop bark and run into melee if you draw aggro
Meld if Nelf
people usually wait way too long to start spreading dots
just rip that shit
the first 20 seconds of a pull as moonkin is nameplate aim labs
me spreading moonfire
Crazy accurate what it feels like at the start of every pull in M+
ok gonna try that
have doubt on how tanky I am though.
The gunners in prio are public enemy number 1
why be moonkin. when u can be moonbear
chain deplete 10 keys
and owkin.
I was in a 10, the group wipes on first pull, everyone stands around to wait for the vote to not become a deserter
Like bro
I just left cause wdym I have to wait now
Take off gear chain die to mobs
Deplete in like a min or 2
So stupid that you gotta do that
Instead of just letting people vote from the get go
Tbh that key was time able as fuck the key owner was the tank and he gave up
There was no problem to join random group for M+ 12+ as a balance, this season, no one wants bala 🙁
I hope that at least small buff coming soon
Im joining 10+ and usually I must wait 10minutes or more till some pug group takes me
does rio not have routes or am I dumb

..spent the past hour wdym 10mins
I got declined from a +3 I already have 🙂
it's sad but it happens with all clases

better do your key and go ahead
The tanks that do those huge arakara and priory pulls in a 10 are unhinged
help me understand
why people app to keys way below what they're at
could think of nothing worse
Bro where the fuck are my buffs
It just going to be something like "wrath damage buffed by 5%" anyway 😕
shoot for the stars
Anyone seeing a trend for people posting a 11 or 12 and its a 9... lol second one today... Trap keys.
So where it at
Get the weakaura to show group keys
🙁
Get yourself a weakaura that tells you what keys the party has
Idk which addon I have does that but when I’m inside a dungeon I see who has a key for that specific dungeon and what key lvl it is
Dang needa get it.
Could be raider io addon or smth not sure
Just got trapped in a Eco thought it was a 12 and was a 10...
just type /key
I know, i shouldve paid more attention.
shouldve just tanked the key
Yeah honestly
If they can’t handle the responsibly then it’s time to bind taunt
There’s a typo in my previous message I’m not correcting it
You’ve waited that long for an invite?
no thats how long he spent in his +8
trusting colored names
smh
its labor day weekend u think theyre working

The preemptive pin jinxed it
There will be no buff this week i guess
is anyone willing to hlep me look over a 13dawn log?
Trying to figure out if there was anything I could have done to save the missing 26 seconds
missing 26 seconds?
26 seconds overtime
ik there were deaths that were avoidable and I accidentally pulled the mini ship and killed a dps with meld cuz the tank went the other way
just send the log in here
ideally you should spend your
Dreamstate stacks before pressing Warrior of Elune
o7
pressed Incarn at the end of a pull here, would have probably been better to save it for next?
That depends on the situation just feel it out bro
On the 1st boss you should have maybe held the Incarn for FoE to come back up
esp since you're not playing on use trinket
also idk what you're using Soothe on during first boss Dawnbreaker
ye shit happens
after intermission on 1st boss you dotted after entering Eclipse, should be other way around
but thats very minor in grand scheme of things
i dont even have fps to paly this game
why im playing simple rdps lol
you take forever to spread dots on the 1st pull at the church
also shouldn't really enter Eclipse before pressing Incarn there
delays your burst even more

not good
You want to get in the state where everyone has dots on them and you're in CDs as quickly as possible
idk what pull this is, but here you enter Eclipse before pressing Incarn and then sending a Moonfire in Incarn
ideally shouldn't do that
but shit happens
Most of these things are just minor optimizations you could make and probably not the sole reason you depleted the key
Have we given up on any buff announcements today?
biggest fps in history
I appreciate the tips regardless
i play solo/ no com a lot so i can only control me
yeah its the only variable you can control
good luck out there
yeeeea, we are cutting it very close to getting any announcements today
Monday surely 🙃
it's labor day, nobody's working
thats ironic
Damn you're so right
shoukdn't people be laboring
I told my raid leader I'd play feral from fractilus through the end buuuuuuuut I don't wanna so blizzard plz
Monday is
Yeah exactly
Just push a hotfix now problem solved 😄
boomkin dev been on sabbatical
Aint no way we actually go another week with no tuning right
Very real chance with the holiday
Still could announce over the weekend and push it before servers come up Tuesday though
The coping is real
What if blizz devs think spec balance is fine right now
I mean someone’s gotta be at the bottom
They’ll compensate by making boomie strong during midnight 🥰
yea right
i mean, these bummers surely could have announced today
they had the entire week
who'd want to work on tww anyways
the buff its confirmed or only copium?
which answer is more comforting
what the
can somene tell me why I cant install new drivers?
i kinda wish they wuld just say if they are wrking on it or not cause if not i just wuld either quit or swap to a better class the waiting and not knowing but putting wrk into my main anyway is idk tilting
thats just me tho im weak
our 4 set feels so bad
boomkin in general
i think its still bugged on the first boss too yea?
no
yeah sadge
really ? cause i didnt get the buff last night
link log
i legit check and no dryad damage on details
trying to decide what class im switching to
the damage from the 4pc is Starsurge
dryad doesnt show on details
thats not what the bug was either
ty
how do you mdt sim?
read FAQ in Compendium
pugs man
looking at some m+ logs do boomies just starfall in single target now
starfall no, if you meant starfire then yes
I'm just seeing the ratio of starfall to starsurge like 5:1
you realise the vast majority of a dungeon is multiple targets
and as soon as theres more than 1 target you starfall instead of starsurge in the m+ build
There’s also a ton of bosses that are multi target so
Majority of the dungeon time you're fighting more then 1 single target lol
That's all you bb
so i'm reading the compendium now, and I found how to get the mdt simc string, but not where to put it
expert mode footer box in the custom simc options
do you mean advanced?
found it
it was hidden
thanks
odd, using the mdt sim I get a lower number than I got in my dawnbreaker
it's not meant for you to compare dps value
it's for evaluating diff gear/talent etc.
ah gotcha
you'd need to run a multi-actor sim with all 5 members to get the dps value, and that may not even be possible unless all 5 specs support droute
embellishment question, I'm currently running a single duskthread and darkmoon ascension
is 75% avg uptime worthwhile to keep the dustthread? or do I need to run two to make it worthwhile
debating if I recraft for writhing armorband or if its a sidegrade and not worth the gold
where buff
dawnthread would prolly be better in m+
but threads are generally better than ascension in m+
@sinful surge
because ascension falls off between pulls
ah
single or double
doesnt change the value of each embellishment
ascension + writhing is basically 2x ascension
and two threads are just 2 threads
gotcha
it prolly also helps that verse helps with dmg incoming
i forgot that was a thing lol
I wish i could do the same
i mean you were knocking target dummies earlier how you think i learned 🙂
bro's back @lucid olive
I did for nothing
some people just cant be taught
True i am an example
spec is so easy
Ye for people who have talent for games
theres someone in here that plays with a controller
i used to time 20s with smoeone healing on roller
Boxna how are you singlehandedly the most depressed person I know and you've been here for 3 days
boomkin curse


i finished my vault on boomie and now i can't get myself to run more keys until buff or vault
idk man you could aura buff the spec 20% and it'll still just be boring
this is my first expansion. i went from grey parsing on a ret paladin to playing boomkin at a decent level. just takes time and comitment to learning instead of ok i read guide where big number
what key is this?
i hope with chicken buffs soon they increase duration of elunes chosen tier set, qol with that timer is cancer
13 flood, wouldve been even higher overall if tank didnt int on the snipers 2nd pull
That's ALOT of haste
damnnnn myth track weap
been playing around with higher haste in the bigger pull dungeons
but still 23k mastery so signet cranks
im only at 31 hste non boomkin form
this is raid set up currently
Looks okay to me
ended up getting r2 boss damage on araz last night cause we needed more boss dam
thats not raid set up
I feel so boosted playing with my friends rn as balance. Haven't enjoyed the spec at all so far. Elune's tier set feels straight up 💀
wym
Think he means u want to go even less haste?
sec imma do a sim
maybe he's EC
maybe he in human form
nope
my dmg breakdown from a ++10 streets. First time ive ever seen starfall so slow
the mobs were not living long
just thought it was interesting to see
yeah at that point id just surge the big mob hahaa
real lmfao
streets is an interesting key pull wise
i think we gained the most in there from the 4p fix
agree
like this is not our dungeon
im close to playing kotg in streets theres no big aoe pulls and alot of high hp or 2 target
looking better? this is simming like 5k higher then the other set with this new ring
yes
i knew getting 4 different necks would pay off at some point
that 20% verse is gonna feel so nice on rot
yea need more crit
change wep ench
to?
since i need more crit right
I wish

big bet
exactly, if youre mostly topping dps as a boomie your key is dead LOL
Wats funny is a buff that big wouldn't even put us in the upper end of the raid dps charts
M+ would be op tho
What
Why are we acting like boomy is dogshit in m+
uhhh 16% on those amped surges would be giga
Like be for real guys
Moonkin is bad in the +2s they r doing
Ikr like dooming is fine but this is delusional levels of dooming
not really
only time im not top damage is if theres a frost dk in the group you might just not be him
slappin bosses
hi guys please help me out, when i am on murlok.io everyone has 3600+ mastery or haste my pure fiber only gives half how does this work pls help me out
im lost as a mfer
and a noob
need help
website is wrong
don't look at murlok io for pve, don't care about others people's stats, sim yourself
armory is wrong too?
blizz doesn't care about armory
cuz armory says it too
it's bugged one way or other all the time
its nt about that i was just wondering how ppl had double the fkkn mastery
simmed a droptimizer for mastery/crit and mastery/verse and its virtually equal minus crit getting slightly more
an extra 1600 mastery wouldd have been great
anything that uses armory is just a shitshow
Yeah it’s not real
okkay thx for the advice ladds
for statbalance, what should i be aiming for roughly percentage wise
im returning from s1
so looking for general i will sim my stuff ofc
mostly m+ atm but tell me both i will takke a SS andd keep it for later
stat prio fake
help a nooby out
no
i said ill sim my stuff but just asking for a rough picture
of stat prio's in current patch
m+ you want big mastery big haste
raid you want big mastery good crit+vers and no haste
st sim right
ye
Why your dps so low

here we go again
oh hey .. look! all my wowhead bots are telling me that hunters get new tameable pets this season
just what i was looking for
post yours 😉
hunters can now tame balance druids as the dps is comparable to a bm pet
BRO I DID THAT IN SL
but as boomki
😭
boomkin isn't even bad in M+
this is so cooked
im getting declined from 13 priorys kekw
like mf i was doing this on 18's 19's a month ago
Weird considering how op beam supposedly is
711 but under 5m

look under the trees
it just gets worse the more you look at it
Almost like "this class is brought because X utility spell is good this season" is fake
i am probably a noob but i find beam very shit the mobs just fucking move out of it
am i a dumbass or is this a thing
ok that makes more sense
Almost like that yea, strange
With no patch notes tonight are we guaranteed to not have any this reset?
What with Monday being Labor Day
So how much crit shuld i have for st kotg? cause i simmed and it has me at 6k but i see others with like 17k am i doing sumthing wrong
You get as much crit as the sim tells you to get
SIM Droptimizer and go from there
i wish i was smart enough to understand the difference and why it is that way tho
you have different gear than other ppl
anyone running 17k crit on st kotg is the biggest joke ever
that is for sure
but what crit should you have between none and a few is a sim question
hes an allstar mythic raid boomy i didnt really know wat else to look at but if thats a joke ill never get there lol
kinda just went to the all star list heres the one i clicked
unless you have the exact same gear available to you as someone else does, it's waste of time looking at another person
ah
the translater was wrong but its 15k
ya you can't trust armory
Armory is fucky
well i found him from warcraft logs
armory is 100% lying everyday of the week and twice on the weekends
logs are sometimes ok but also sometimes bugged
Yeah but you can’t trust stats on the website since it’s currently showing overblown stuff
do u not have gear for it
logs can show proc related values even in the summary chart so hard to trust too
w/e stats wcl shows isn't 100% true
Don’t compare yourself to others like that, just sim yourself and do as the robot says when it comes to choosing what gear to equip / farm
for his quicksim
but i'm ready to delete my druid if this guy is both a competent raider and playing with 17k crit in raid, that i tell you
racism
im kinda last prio on the dagger so i sent a craft
so craft staff?
4.6 is a lil low for that ilvl
why r we craftin mh
What did he do with the other spark
yeah but when crafting weapon, you either go for a 2h or for an oh, crafting a mh doesnt really make a lot of sense
i asked week 1 if i got a good oh wuld it be a bad idea to send a mh and alot of peeps said yes in here so i did
thats not why u craft mh
I sincerely doubt that happened ngl
hero oh isnt "good"
i guess the only time you'd craft a mh is if you have NOTHING but a myth oh in the vault and didnt get anything weapon related in myth reclears
Even then just craft a 2h and take socket
i mean then you'd just sim to see what use you could have of the 2nd spark, if crafting a big thing like head/chest/legs
again thats all good in hindsight i cant really do anything about it now
yes but trying to fix ur thjinking
true true true, we're just explaining our initial reaction to your craft
What you can do is upgrade your items to 704 since it’s free
And farm for some more crit/ vets secondary items from keys
did u take myth shuold from vault?
yea
disgusting
ty
nice welp ty time to take a break for this tier ty ty all
Lmao
tbf, you could run any off piece and it'd still be sidegrade range

guh
Listen the icon reminded me of the feather shit from loom
nah that was hero track
- it took me way longer than i intended
It don’t
I was always under the impression that Balance Druid stats are Mastery > Haste
but im looking online and i am seeing that elune yes follows Master > Haste stat priority, but KOTG looks to be Mastery> Crit.
anyone else running crit?
Mastery > crit > vers is what i'm seeing
How good ist Moonkin in M+ right now? I think i play a Boomie as twink.. 🤔
Ora the new 4p for kotg
Haste does absolutely nothing to increase our dmg
It’s fine, not meta super strong but it does dmg
meta, got 1% buff
thats all it needed
How high should my surges cirts be with new 4 set? 30mil?
Entirely depends on your gear
Highest I’ve seen on me without any amps is 40 mill
Just looking for something to aim for since its not beeing first on details









