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I don't even think I will play druid on farm (unless this shit gets buffed insanely)
I'll just go play a dragon or some shit
Believe
Smh, dragons
yeah farm is for having fun and playing better video games
The pipeline
so understandable
That's toxic
I got stripped off my PI & ebon might on our nexus re kill
never wanted to jump off a cliff as much as that
ngl idk whats worse, playing bamkin or playing feral slotmachine
you dont like ravage rng and then rng on ravage duplicating on top of that?
going from this
on nexus dmg amp
to this
is very good content
😭
2nd one is natty ye
But even week 1 i could either do 30+
or low 20's
ravage rng is so dumb
unfortunately still better than playing boomkin

There's so many dev evokers that are going to reroll when the balance flips and they don't want to play Aug
Will we be buffed tonight?
and I will welcome them in with open arms
I didn't even mind aug
Granted i only played it for amirdrassil prog
And aberrus farm, idk how it is rn
Absolutely! [We have no way of knowing until that class tuning alert drops]
They'll buff it and then people will be lining up behind you to play the class 
yea surely
Meanwhile, me wanting to be druid buff and struggling to find a fit 
(this has happened every tier for the last 6, we arent getting buffed enough)
I don't care the class sucks let me play the game
They will buff if so the difference between the last (boomkin) and before last will not be 30% just 20
yea thats cope
they scared of the power of a 120m surge
wait, just make yarrgi play druid
duh
assert your dominance
I will (by quitting)
🧠
With the 120 m starsurge and our downtime we could actuall average a green log paladin
What an unimaginable utopia it would be
but i do more than a blue log pally
Just need boomkin good enough to be brought to prog for us..
Bring back the 200M starsurge we might even break into blue
im confused
but not than a blue log wl
Destro warlock blue parse is the dream
definately more
holy
I call photoshop on this
but this is problematic
warlocks playing 1 button?
i think your warlocks are handless
now this is more valid

being 5 places lower then an 54 elem is dreamstate
good class balance
!
what boss is that
forge
It's nice to see that feral is dogshit aswell!
where are the bamkin buffs guys
cant even beat green wl
good class

something something specs cant be good at everything !! (except the ones that are)
tell me what kind of magic these people are using to get 7.5 mill on Soulbinder? 
afk teammates
its a shit pad fight
their other friends dont padd
yeah except all those specs that get to do everything by default without having to sacrifice hee hee
playing with shitters / paying them not to hit adds
others just aren't good enough at padding
love blizzard
were not even good at the other thing when we sacrifice st
"Guys pls dont aoe im doing something"
🥴
boomkin can't do shit and feral gets worse if you spec to do any sort of aoe damage

spec is dogass at everything and when it sacrifices being medoicre at the one thing for the other, it does tank damage
i can only 99 🙁
with a 100 percentile you can actually fight with the blue warlock with one button rotation turned on
sounds like a win
Maybe one button rotation is the play
ur just a cosmetic raid buff anyway
motw ursols typhoon
The raid buff is reserved for resto druids lol
I want to live that moment where Liquid bring a balance druid for a single target fight
Nerfed the next week
I need SoD back with venthyr boomkin
true
Can you still get the other tints for moonkin artifacts?
Like I have these but I would like to have the green tint as well
does that still work
Can get all but the mage tower and Pvp ones I think
Have we ever been lower than this? 
I have the mage tower base one I did it back then
but not sure about the green tint of that model
last time was AQ?
Holy shit warriors were juicing
Ah yes, AQ when balance was barely even a spec
Would love if someone can help with this 
Was hoping I can still unlock them if I got the base one
ur not allowed to get my weapon skins from 10 years ago because of the prestige of it.
the green version is just do 10 dungeons no?
10 years ago 
I mean you can get the tints if you have base unlocked no?
I have the mage tower one
that's my question yeah
Not sure tbh but i think you can
like what was the requirement for the green tint of that
if you have the base appearance
you can get the other ones
but you need to do it on the same char that unlocked it
wowhead says run 10 legion dungeons but I just did and I didnt get it :d
Graduated in 2017 man stop it
Yeah it's the same character
I have this achiev on the character, I just want to know what was the requirements for unlocking the other 2 tints I am missing
the 10 dungeons wowhead said were clearly wrong xD
Do 10 more
zoomer
according to some video it's 10 different dungeons
I ran fucking 10 maw of souls
fml
what stats should we craft the 2h?
sim it
for kotg its normally crit mast
i play other one
haste mastery for ec
maybe it sims better for them
pro players play multiple specs
i had worse sims with mastery vers than crit vers or crit mast in full single target scenarios
Full target my scenario nah sayin’
that sounds like hell
how it is possible AUG is higher in the classement than boomy wtf
BLIZZARD PLEASE DO SOMETHING ❤️
because it buff the top 2 spec and like the top 10 specs are 10% ahead of boomkin
ezpz
Gotta love that they did tuning before everyone had tier sets, buffed everyone below us when we had the weakest tier set, and couldn't see this coming
Shut down the discord
We’re not toddlers
I remember week 1 season 3 of TWW. Good times. Balance had just received an aura buff while using the previous seasons tier; which was pretty good at the time.
Weve been shit for an expansion and a half and have the same gameplay issues throughout
Ret pals threw a hissy fit after one tier of bad throughput despite their class playing amazing
Imagine if mages were doing zdps while having horrible gameplay
Ehh
The gameplay is atrocious tho
Its the same as last season. our set just blows
Yeah the set makes the gameplay worse, when it feels bad to have to use spenders you know smth is fucked
If they fix the tier set we'll be pretty good in M+ but the gameplay still isn't good
Nonstop Starfire spam in all circumstances 
Them starfires be smacking tho
Surely noone is capping AP to spam starfire
Do we have any hope of getting any sort of buff this season or are we screwed till Midnight
You can’t
Buffs later today lil bro
Because of 2p
how he is getting so much mastery from the back?
Starfire isn't the issue, it is eclipse. Eclipse was supposed to address poor scaling from empowerments (it didnt) and it is supposed to be an engaging rotation (it isnt). People go to EC and spam Starfire (ignoring eclipse) and our damage is awful bc of 15 temp buffs and ramp.
Pure fiber
i did
pure still only gives 1.8k
what ilvl is your back
must be a bug on the website to show that much
Armoury lookup has been bugged for weeks
Have you checked yourself on wow armory
yea its a bug. i jsut checked myself
has anyone had issues using simbot? it won't let me sim at all as balance today. keeps telling me my spec is not supported for dungeon slice or patchwerk
Well it isn’t
Supported for dslice
Patchwerk should not give you an error msg
it doubt it says that for patchwerk
do you use starsurge more liberal with 2p due to its procs giving the starlord effect? or do you still only use it when you would cap, need 3 stacks asap or move? Idk if i am doing it wrong casting builders and just using 1 surge, builder, surge etc
i had run it as dslice for the past weeks with no issue
Dslice literally doesn’t work
u still surge to not cap
The apl is not implemented
It gives random results
Or like absolutely not relevant results
ok thank you
- dslice isnt how we have ever simmed m+
- gastank turned it off more than a week ago
- read the faq in compendium on how to sim m+
no idea how i've been simming the past 3 weeks then as I only just manually swapped it from dslice to pw today
can u show a sim of u simming dslice this week or last
don't think i have any saved. is there a log of ones you've run?
ahhh i know what it is now. you're 100% right
i wasn't logged in, so it was defaulting to dslice
You’re not supposed to be able to dslice balance Druid at all
which is why it wasn't working 🫠
because when i'm logged in it defaults back to patchwerk
yea but u said u did sim dslice this week
yeah but i was logged in when i was simming
rebooting this morning must have logged me out, i dunno
being logged in doesnt matter to the dslice not being able to work
when i'm not logged in the sim defaults to dslice, when i'm logged in it defaults to patchwerk
i was mistaken in thinking i had been running in dslice since i just looked to what it was defaulting to
because i hadn't been manually changing it when simming. but when i logged in i saw it was actually patchwerk and realized i was wrong
ok
What am I reading
ignore plz
TLDR: I fucked up simming and can't read
lol
finally a log
u realize ur not dotting things right
and ur wasting dreamstate stacks by sending woe there
u shuold be starfiring with dreamstate stacks up, dumping asp then woe 2x starfire likely starfall stafire
u then sent a 2nd incarn liek this with all of them at half
and dotted for 5 globals
I have three different Starsurges in my details, anyone knows which is the one from the 4p?
lol is that new pin copium or hopium
the 4p is ur normal surge
the splash of the 4p is dryads favor
the 2p is dryad surge
uhhhh whats the ium for stupid
ahh. from ec, not kotg
Yo we got a log ?
well i cant track that
Let's go
yes u can
my wa is not showing my stacks
Update your wa
get a better one then
we FOE before or after CE?
so what should i do
Hey, don't saw bug for EC 4P anymore on Compendium, it was fix?
they should be dotted before pressing ur cds
u need to read the guide
u also dont need to enter eclipse before pressing incanr
well until i dot everyone the pack will d ie
thats just not true
it is
this pull is together at 28
Nope
it dies at 54
i need to learn how to use wow logs like this guy lol
u can dot them while theyre being gathered
Bro he is literally refusing reason and just stuck in his ways
Unless you're just in complete shitter keys, in which case just play kotg and just sunfire shit and game
7 global dots there
but they are in no way dead before ur done dotting
Thats a boss opener
That's an opener on a raid boss bud
yea scroll down and click the aoe prio
Not a trash pack rotation
ur also not doign the "start casting at max range 4 seconds before pull"
but lets link the "opener"
Boss is already dead by then tbh
True
Dead on my screen
Listen boxna, you've been in here dooming all week, not giving information asked for to help you. They've been patiently waiting to help you. Do not see this as bullying because they're being brunt now
Idk it just feels like a bit at this point
He slid into my dms trying to doom and complain too
i said 1 sentence
and you blocked me dude
and u keep clicking here view messages
so ur cringe af, blocking me but keep reading and saying things about me


I mean
He got me there
He didnt say anything wrong..
I got fomo what can I say
Were bad. Not hopeless. You can improve, and people here will flat help you. But not with an eeyore attitude
No one wants to help someone who's going to cry and complain the whole time
Guy is only doing keys, boomy is fine in keys... especially if youre just starfalling the entire time which is prob the case here
Once again: moonfire > sunfire > foe > incarn > starfall if capped > starfire 2x > woe > starfire/starfall
I just took tokens from vault a million times last season and turned them all into valorstone consumables
Just go upgrade to 8/8 champ or 4/6 hero

day 15 of no class tuning
Think its like 704
imma about to lose it
Today for sure
Why is the voidcore trinket + voidcore weapon not good?


there's no reason to assume it woudl be good in the first place
cuz it do less dam
I guess my initial thought was "if they designed a set to take up 2 slots, it has to be fairly balanced to be better than slots individually"
every other time they did that in previous expansions it was good
not really
not true
there are tons of 2sets that are never used
unforch, assuming they balance things well
whats peoples ST sim looking like? id like to compare.
Between 5 and 5.2 I believe
this 2set was piss useless entire season 1
you just made an assumption that would be logical in most games, but it's just not true in wow
we gate keeping gear? xD
Araz antenna Kris + a bunch of 723 what else is there to know
orange name gatekeeping

i dont have a kris
i was joking.
Actually garyeet probably has a 2h craft
nerver lucky
yessem
L
show ur sim rat
Same
i got gear and didnt vote for my self once
🤥
W LC
voting for yourself 
not voting for anyone else ✅
gg 🙁
🧠
see now ur thinking
any reason for all vers mast for rings and neeck and not haste mast?
0 for me but 0 for them too
because we dont like haste
thought we did? or is that new to this season?
New kotg prefers those 3 to haste
yes
all our damage is on the burst window, most of this burst window is convoke, convoke isnt affected by haste
we like mastery and crit/vers
ok so what about M+? do you swap gear?
Yes
we hit cap too easily and dont need more globals to do so
yes
swap neck, rings
i dont really care about m+
man. so much to keep up with
so what haste cap do we need for M+?
However much the sim wants you to use if you’re gearing for m+ specifically
idk generally its haste/mastery equally
"caps" arent a thing anymore
giga chad with 3k haste
What is that a 10s starfire
is like 1.8
xD
just grab any has/mas piece for m+ who care sabout dps do you want to cast slow ass starfires
Im just simming EC st and taking that into m+
new turret spec 💀
but essentially it twlls me to throw in all haste i got
i had to replce my neck. now i need omega ring from raid. i had way too much haste
yea some of us do damage
i the damn thing would drop this week. theres only 1 other person rolling for it so hopefully i win it
if*
Whats your guild
Is anyone able to explain the lunar calling talent to me? I dont understand what it takes away
my guild aint nothing special lol
it takes away ur ability to go into solar
LMAO
read the talent
its either me or a mage that will get it
agreed, hes a trial too
Jk
lmao
its just how we do loot.
Dont take me serious. Im just mad at the workd
Next week ill be in a better place. Surely
Too broke for nitro

Lol
Rerolling?
nitro is dumb af
You cant edit your profile without nitro, then to even use anything cool, you gotta buy it
like wtf
wtf is that
Hot
It was an urban legend
How much
from where?
2mil
boe
Raid boe
boe from raid
Buy it
Boes are random stats
yea that bic gonna sell for alot
So it can procc double mastery
yea but i only saw the double vers one
Crazy
theres double haste and double mastery up
what
what you mean what
you said crazy
jk sdahfjlahsjkdfhjkds
Oh shit
I NEED THAT
well i dindt see them up on auction house
like liquid bought firedup the double vers one
holy. I didnt know it could do that
u could buy the champ ones cuz it goes to hero level
weird, doesn't show up at all on my UI
600k for normal double mast ring on ah
yea click into it
oh weird, the line item shows it but up top its blank
you're right, it only seems to happen to double ones
Ohhhh i dont suxk
Im just broke
something something reforging
Reforging was aight. I liked it
Just go m+ for free
Fuck that just go farm eco dome/halls
saw that post of someone farming dawnbreaker
for the ring
and just didnt get it

blud thinks i dont have the eco/hoa ring
but the hoa ring isnt heavy haste
Don't need a ton tbh, shit drs hella
need the hoa neck tho
it doesnt "dr hella" til like 30k
were not there yet
Hate to see others live your dreams
My gear is a mess but I cba to spam 50 10s to fix it
Couldn’t drop mommas necklace last week after 15+ floodgates
i got mine yesterday after so many
I did get shoulders three time tho
15 isnt evennnnnnnnnn a lot
not even grinding
Idc bro won’t catch me doing that again m+ is already a drag as is
15 is more then enough to hate yourself
Anything above 8 I’m out
Is the jastor diamond sim bait?
Ima fill my vault while looking for an item, if it doesn’t drop so what
^
Its not when it works, but it likes to bug out
close discord if we don't get buffed
We aren’t children
bro you play 12+ game
not even close ;/
What exactly do you want to accomplish?
story of my life
Why does broxna have ritual forge but i dont...
boosted
He doesn't noshow raids cause he's working

wdym you dont?
Fuck you
excuse me sir?
In playing signet and dh trinket...
😄
should figured that out
how can i not try
ur currently not trying
u post funny pictures of "i suck i do no damage"
i tell u how to change and u then post another and do the same shit
Try harder
Get a plater that colors nameplates based on dots
And dont press cds before theyre all colored
that implies he doesnt know theyre dotted
but when ur not pressing any dots
that isnt the problem
what would you take from gv please? myth shoulder, myth off hand or hc antenna? sims are quite close
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o6DwtZykkEd4nBLRyMfhpn
never myth oh
antenna prob
I have hero 4p
Oh bad
Antenna solid bur vaulting hc kinda cringe
Shoulders not great
I took shoulders from mine tho
yeah, feels bad to grab hc piece on second week
screwed crafts as I believed in myth staff
i mean
got my hand on norm one + forge and that set piece was quite interesting
wouldnt have takent norm staff
yeah, I should have crafted for sure, but it is what it is now 😄
bala feels bad anyway tbh
yea i jsut dont know a world i first craft ring
doing 97 log just to be at the bottom of dps
on the spider do you dot up the orb or just send it
i dot up the back one
I was unlucky with rings till like 2 days ago, with zero drops, still running with champ ones and made not very wise decision to damp my spark on wrist 😄
Even with myth staff i wouldnt mske ring
so bad
myth staff showed 200k upgrade and crafted one "only" 85k, with ring about 65k by that time so I decided to wait for staff
probably cuz u simmed it with haste mastery
cuz ur ring is haste mastery so i assume thats what were doing wrong
and were doing funny gilded syncs
yea tragic
whats the best then?
mastery crit / mastery vers
Just make a new druid at this point
but generally asking before doing stuff is smart
i do use plater
gg 5 keys abandoned today ;/
as stated, plater isnt the problem
ur not pressing dots, thats not a vision problem
its a hand/brain problem
ye game not for me
Ive not had a single abandon yet suprisingly
ur pro
Ok?
yeah those trinekts suck
I really want to find out what that new races day shift forms will look like I’m hoping they give us something cool for boomy
Im hoping for an even more cursed swimming form
if its nots dwarf i dont care
Koi fish from amirdrasil is bis
ur gonna be like a tadpole
cant even kill the first boss in dome ;/
fuggn frog babby
Thats like one of the easiest bosses in the rotation...
i dont think its soloable tbh, try with a group
can solo it in normal 🙂
but if you couldnt, u should try with a group ;D
SOOOO BAD
i mean, sorry then?
since im not able to paly keys is there any other content like farming gold or something/
u could play delves
nah they are boring af
and u think farming gold isnt gonna be boring
idk
hm
Just uninstall tbh
fake news .. what if they are not raiding mythic. and cant ever get fract dagger
clanker take
ye prob i will once the game time ends
what in the slur 
Just craft staff?
instead of trying to get better and play differently were just gonna quit?
tragic
just try and learn, dont run 10s and be sad about doing no dmg. thats just demotivating for you. try running lower keys and get used to boomie or sit at training dummys for 2 hours, reset everytime cooldowns are up again, idk
but myth mh + oh better than crafted staff in m+
Unless you play a diff spec
yea maybe go play a melee so u can ookook like u like look ur doing
True
warrior perhaps
i used to play dummies with my arcange mage a lot in dragonflight but had no improevment
you cant really compare arcane mage with boomie, your problem is dotting and maybe other stuff thats not as important on arcane. test it, see if it works, check other boomie logs or watch boomie gameplay. do stuff that might improve your gameplay
i also tried watching gameplay and i watch nothing honestly
they have so much addons
i have no clue whats goign on
are you very new to the game?
saddly no
yeah, thats actually sad tbh... you should be able to watch ppl with 30+ addons and still have a clue what is happening on the screen
I mean you said you watch dwilkz and his ui is pretty straightforward
I mean
And literally has cast events shown next to his details
Theres rly nothing to learn on this spec
Dot mobs press incarn press foe press starfire starfall
Just go watch his shit on youtube and actually look
Done
dot mobs???
boxna "i will not"
If you know basic caster fundementals youre good to go
lost him on the first
Doesnt matter tbh
St sim does it after
Or well together
i dot mobs
u actively dont
he did
dude i have 0 fps on first pull
Oshi gimme link
Record on your phone for all I care
log
W
bro
"they die too fast i cant dot"
well ur running into it
Still though
it actually helps, at least for me, to really UNDERSTAND what my buffs are doing and if they are related to others, read tooltipps, actually READ your talents instead of copying on wowhead. Start with basic class knowledge and work on improving
theres like 15 seconds of run
"i will not"
wcyd if mobs are dying
I fucking wish moonfire worked like sunfire
hes doing 9/10s, theyre not
the buffs
ive never been more sure were not getting buffed than right now cuz tettles keeps saying theyre coming
first were op, now were getting buffs
yea fuggn right
Yeah last time he did that we didint get buffed
ive seen this saga before
See you in midnight
Im so curious what they make for our apex talents
Drifting
If its convoke centered i might shoot myself ngl
Nvm
the +75 AP one?
ya
What does that do
back to the good old days of portal keeper
Thats useless...
yup it fixes all of druid problems
Unlucky
that means we can spend all asp then send ac at the end of dryad and get the 2 surge
tahts big dam
what else they gonna do
Myth Bracers are Haste/Crit, got Champ with Haste/Mastery/Speed there.
Myth Voidglass Crys not really in reach for a couple of weeks, and got crafted weapon. So Voidcore not super relevant and obtainable in HC Raid anyways.
Got a Champ Araz and Naazhindris Trinket HC (super bad)...
Ideas? Other options would be to take HC Chest / Helmet to upgrade Set from Champ track
Thats a yikes vault
Socket
uhh, helm or chest and next week do more m+
you could take a socket if you plan on doing full 10s this week / mythic raid at all
socket will be long term a bit better
but feel awful
they should let you spend a socket item for a vault reroll
or 6x coin or w/e that thing si you take
Make vault rerolls buyable for a token
Champ to hero is whatever because you don't want to spend gildeds on 2 upgrades of hero when you get one for free from myth
Infinite money hack for blizz
Was on vacation and just able to squeeze in a tiny bit of WoW, sadly.
I REALLY feel that Socket would be a thing.
Wont step into Myth most likely for another 2-3 weeks (with guild at least), will definitely do more M+ this week.
My Myth piece is a ring as of yet
so socket not usable until next week
well that socket is usable all season is the thought process
and you can farm hero track pieces
yeah idk, if you dont wanna take a socket then id just slam chest or something
but i dont think it's that serious either way
Socket for your wrists you're recrafting next week
so true, me next week
Took the socket, if nothing else comes around will use the socket on the bracers next week
we should be able to trade 2-3 weeks of vault currency for a tertiary enchant 😭
i want to indestructible all my gear frfr
week 0 sockey
week 1, myth herlm w/ sockey
massive stonks
can someone explain the pin? We are expecting buffs?
if post rwf tuning is coming it should theoretically come today
do u htink the bottom raid spec deserves anything?
not gonna happen
we are getting deleted soon
yep i saw ^^ but why :3
unreliable sim method. try doing 2 sims, 1 boss 5 min + 6 boss 1 min
MDT sim
or that if you feel like it
because the sim is wrong
and bad
and dont use it
and now cant use it
welcome to the future
Cause it not worth developing an apl for dslice that gives good enough info to be reliable
yay
the 2 piece seems to rarely proc for me, i just sat in front of the dummies for a couple of minutes and could only see it send one ss
looking at details, 50 casts of starfire, 1 proc
That doesnt seem right...
locked in, f the haters
is ferald harder
Yes
feral can aoe dot everything tho
feral doesn't even single dot stuff
thrash + aoe rip thing
ya
Yes but you have to press rake
nah rake is filler
pw yeyee
And track combo points
and dual rake is smart target
It is
it's way better than twin moons
But tab target on feral is dumb
If you tab target on balance it tabs to mobs that dont have mf
It doesnt do that for rake
why tab just press rake
still more dps than balance
bcs it is shit
Balance actually good in keys tho..
Last priory i almost did 10 mil with 684 weapon..
hm
What is the new rotation?
Its the same...
first he is pro and second u cant do this in low keys
1st, hes above avg at best
2nd, you verywell can do over 8m dps in 10s (i do every key)
I have 1 person per key that does 5 mil dps
rouges, hunters, dks, paladins one shot every pack
Atleast
You need the right playlist to vibe and parse
lmfao
Away with work just catching up 
Ohh ok
balance is pain in low keys
Hes doing 10s...
Hey guys, quick question. I've my trinket with my CA macro. But, in KOTG build, do u think it's better to don't use in firsst CA (with Convoke) but for the second CA with the two starsurges
Nah send on first
u use trinket with first ca
convoke does a lot of damage
Perfect, that's what i do, thks for ur answer
u then get it with the first 2 buffed surges at the end of first ca
you mean im trying
Please just reroll ret paladin
on M+ build Elune when there is ST fight boss for example we should spam wrath or starfire?
Starfire
read lunar calling
Only wrath to enter lunar
actively not
Please just reroll ret paladin
never
playing every day and trying is completely different
not rly
It is
executing the gameplay wrong every day will never make you better
It’s a ret pally with hekili angle imo
Shut up bootypoop
WHAT
I pre typed that
ITS MY FIRST MESSAGE OF THE DAY
Bro do you play on a smart fridge
Thats a shame, you had so many defensives
Switch 1 wow port
yea boss damage isnt why boomkins do keys big dawg
sending incarn at the end of the boss is a choice tho
What gear is he In
I've been seeing some top end balance m+ actually running KotG because of boss damage and decent aoe
His gear isnt the problem
Thats fake
I seeen it
Who?
Its bad
nobody
sec
bro 2.6m you do without a 4 set
in the dumpster along with ur damage
Ec tier nerfed






