balance

[strong bronze]

I mean there isnt anything to learn for EC

Just send cds on cd

[crude void]

You press to buttons and a CD macro

[shadow totem]

Well im just keeper pilled

Idk feels better for me. Tho have only done like 2 keys as EC

[jaunty blaze]

You can but will it be fun

[crude void]

You literally incarn trinket potion fury into 2 starfire and starfall spam

[jaunty blaze]

Fury first 🤓

[strong bronze]

Unless you are doing really high keys , you could play keeper in keys it doesnt change much

[crude void]

Well I have them macroed into 1 button

[shadow totem]

Idk I have resil 14.

[jaunty blaze]

But its still a gcd inside you incarn then no

Which you don't want

[warm valley]

If it is a sub 10 key you might as well run keeper, everything will die too fast to feel good on EC

[shadow totem]

Gonna start working on 15 keys.

[crude void]

Considering how dogshit boomkin is now I might aswell send wraths in the full durstion of double CA

[jaunty blaze]

Shiiii

[strong bronze]

I mean it isnt dogshit , but it has some glaring flaws

[shadow totem]

Idk like usually it just feels mid at everything

Atleast we have poison dispell for arakara 💀

[warm valley]

Rn in mythics it is like the definition of mid, like an actual middle of the road, maybe slightly below mid but yeah

Once you push beyond 12's that is, anything below that feels atrocious

[shadow totem]

Anything below 12 and you are crying. Maybe should try an orbital strike build 😂

[strong bronze]

The dumbest thing is that starfall is so ass to press

[shadow totem]

Yea. That's true...

[crude void]

Why do you want to deal damage for half of your max resource?

[warm valley]

Push it so maybe, just maybe you get a proc so that maybe your SECOND CD, when the pack is almost dead, will give you a fat damage bonus [4% take it or leave it]

[shadow totem]

#MakeStarfallGreatAgain

#FreeMovment

[strong bronze]

In most keys it falls behind starfire by about 7-10%

[warm valley]

Casting while moving at all times

All casts are now channels

[strong bronze]

The loss of s2 tierset is so atrocious for aoe

[crude void]

EC set should be 40% chance / dot tick to send a starsurge into every target you are in combat with

[strong bronze]

I think nerfing the starfire dmg from the tierset was fine , the proc rate should be reverted

You could go a full pull without proccing a surge

Or at max 2 at the very end of a pull

[warm valley]

I have gone through 2 FoE's with no procs before

40% feeling like 4% sometimes

[strong bronze]

Gamba moonkin

[warm valley]

This should've been the season 2 set fr

[crude void]

Gamba moonkin is not accurate

Gamba means you can actually win high

With boomie you csnt win high

[strong bronze]

You could , if you get 6 stacks going into a pull with CA

But thats very unlikely

[warm valley]

When the stars align and you go into a boss fight with 6 stacks and a charge of CA, it feels good to spike to 9M dps with no convoke

[crude void]

It still would be shit coz by the time you ramp up the buff is gone

I had some 6 charge CA’s and didnt feel like I am a super saiyan

[strong bronze]

Cant even feel good about that either , you'd get 3-4 buffed starfire's

[warm valley]

The very few times I do get 6 stacks i can feel it, but its very short lived of course, and you can only feel it if it happens at the start of a pull

[crude void]

Its funny how the fully gamba season 2 was less gamba as you 100% procced on CA

This set needs just that

Problem solved

[warm valley]

Procs at 6 stacks on CA as well as FoE?

[crude void]

CA gives u 6 stacks period

[warm valley]

Well FoE still goes as normal but CA procs 6 stacks right away?

[strong bronze]

I mean could there be a world where the stacks dont run out and you have just the buff be consumed after foe?

That way atleast you could in theory farm for a start of pull

[shadow totem]

Make the stack buff duration longer? So you can keep it between pulls? 40 sec instead of 20?

[warm valley]

I like that

[shadow totem]

Becasue right now you can't "save" it in the end of a pull

[strong bronze]

I mean this iteration its just send on cd regardless

If you have longer or perma duration you could at the end of the pull just hold it for next one

[crude void]

Have a 40% chance for a stack / target hit with starfire instead / cast

[shadow totem]

We will see. Prob be some class tunings next reset.

[strong bronze]

Hmm its gonna proc alot in aoe

[warm valley]

Yeah cause this whole not having a 4 set for 2 CD's and then getting 2 stacks for the 3rd is not it.

[shadow totem]

But I guess it feels odd to need to cast starfall to spend resources so you can cast the higher dps generator...

[warm valley]

Spending in the hopes of getting a proc for a fat damage boost, but the procs dont come

[shadow totem]

Atleast my keeper is consistent ish... 😅

[crude void]

This tierset averages a 2-3 stack buff when you are off CD

Thats it

[warm valley]

8%-12% on average

[shadow totem]

Floodgate big momma 2 starsurge crit in a row 96m each... 😅

[crude void]

Is that even possible?

[grim hull]

when doing aoe dmg, dots are up and you just starfire -> starfall, do you try to keep you astral power high, e.g. do one starfall, fill up into nearly capping with starfire, do a starfall? (aside from dumping 3 asap for starlord like in st, if i understand it correctly)

[crude void]

With current gear?

I mean my highest damage was 61 mill into dmg amped araz with all raidbuffs and bloodlust

[shadow totem]

Sorry was 94m

[strong bronze]

Need more mastery crit

[warm valley]

You must be very careful about overcapping, the set will not proc if you cap while casting starfire

[strong bronze]

I got an 80m crit on araz

[crude void]

I got 26k mastery blud

[strong bronze]

Then crit vers is another thing you would need

[crude void]

I am kindof fully bissed on balance

[delicate perch]

cope

[crude void]

Well I did not have the araz trinket back then

[strong bronze]

Oh then y thats also something

Do people pop trinket on cd or for the 1st dryad buff?

[crude void]

Well the conpendium suggested to pop trinket with CA

I still dont quite get that how the dmg amp pool for the dryad buff is cslculated

Is it your int when you press CA

Or when the dryad fades

[shadow totem]

🤷‍♂️ Who knows 😂

[dire osprey]

wtf?

[warm valley]

Wish EC had the increased astral cap built into the hero talents as well, especially with how easy it is to overcap, and with capping preventing your 4 set? Yeh

Need that ritual forge, that opener must go crazy with it

[dire osprey]

it does

[crude void]

Well I still find that the max crits are around 30-35 mill

With araz

[dire osprey]

thats without amp probably

[strong bronze]

Yeah somewhere around that range

[crude void]

Yes

Thats just an opener

[dire osprey]

ive gotten like a 39m or so max

[strong bronze]

Now if you add the antena on top of it and get the crit proc

[crude void]

But isnt crit only buff the rate?

Is it buffing the damage?

[serene elk]

i'm at 32m without

[warm valley]

Im at 40M without

[crude void]

What your char Ziggie

[serene elk]

but I'm full master/haste x)

[crude void]

I need your stats

[lucid olive]

This

[crude void]

Well if its the int when it fades shouldnt we delay the trinket?

I mean in theory the cap is 10*intellect / 0.03

Which is like 50 mill damage to cap it with an araz

[dire osprey]

giga boosted convoke prob benefits from it hard

[lucid olive]

Delaying trinket performs worse in a sim

[lucid olive]

This

[crude void]

Yea that makes sense

[warm valley]

Won't have convoke for second CA

[crude void]

I then just dont get it how are people sending 40 mill crits

[warm valley]

Maybe I had some stacks of parapodia

[dire osprey]

i am rocking a moxie jug and a forge

and i got like a 39

idk

[crude void]

I am 710 ilvl with 25-26k mastery 8k haste rest is crit and verse

And never gotten to 40 mill on a no amp

And I have HC araz+antenna

[lucid olive]

Unlucky

[crude void]

It cant be not getting to cap coz literally your convoke caps out the first favor

[dire osprey]

nvm i did go above 40

thought 39 was my highest

[crude void]

You must be taurens that why

Copium

[lucid olive]

Tauren is a considerable increase for kotg

So definitely helps

[dire osprey]

nelf

[warm valley]

Nelf

[crude void]

I said copium stop the nelf spam

I need something to grab onto for my 4.0.0 damage

[warm valley]

Pass the copium, these classes tunings are coming out soon right?

[crude void]

Where they will nerf EC set procc rate to 30% and nothing else

Yes they will come

[jaunty blaze]

Buffs tomorrow

[crude void]

Btw I dont give a f about EC tbh I kinda enjoy this raid but it would be nice to be above the tank

[warm valley]

Its Friday so if not later today then it wont be until monday?

[dire osprey]

Need @twin lotus to start coping again

[jaunty blaze]

Yes

If not monday then its over fr

[crude void]

Well Liquid Max quoted that blizzard did a good job in the dps balances

[dire osprey]

[crude void]

Saying that with 82 elem shamans

[dire osprey]

is he trolling

[crude void]

In the roaster

[dire osprey]

they stacked like 3 or 4 classes

[crude void]

Exactly my point

[jaunty blaze]

Very good balance

[twin lotus]

I am evoker main now

[sudden flame]

he's not playing boomkin anymore

[warm valley]

Locks, evokers, and ele shaman spam

[strong bronze]

4 mages 4 evokers shamans

[dire osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-13328108869509964634

[twin lotus]

they gave us the most fun set in PTR and then removed it

never playing PTR again, the empty promises

tasted heaven

but banished in hell

[warm valley]

Ele ain't staying at the top, they never stay there long

[crude void]

He also said that all healers except disc were very viable

[dire osprey]

understandable i wouldve switched too if my RL didnt lock me to the buff

[crude void]

Pitty that the prevoker outhealed the second by 3 mill overall

[strong bronze]

Ele went from the bottom to the very best in 1 tuning cycle , why does boomie not get that 1 treatment

[jaunty blaze]

We did get the reverse

[nova yarrow]

Is it a good idea to dot with Moonfire during big pulls when the tank is still collecting mobs? I often get aggro of that, and when he's collected everything, it takes me too long to build up my dots.

ty

[warm valley]

Never seen boomie on top outside of M+

[crude void]

We got the same treatment in reverse

We were bottom

Now we are bottom by 30%

[dire osprey]

i topped every boss on normal 1st week

because the bosses fell over

so my big opener stayed up

lmao

[warm valley]

You can but you need to get to the other side of the tank so he can strip aggro, drop vortex to buy yourself time and also shadowmeld

[strong bronze]

Only raiding normal now , those 1 and a half min kills are satisfying kekw

[warm valley]

This is a bad sign for your raid im afraid

[jaunty blaze]

Are they tho

[dire osprey]

yeah u get everyone flaming u

[crude void]

I can top on HC aswell thats just saying all the other ppl in the group as on 1 btn rotation and masturbating meanwhile

[dire osprey]

wtf sandbaggers

[warm valley]

Oh wait, normal and dead fast? Nvm

[dire osprey]

idk we all parsed 99s/100s

but its just that the boss died so fast

[indigo barn]

Normal raid is basically just opener into 2min CDs

Yeah you will be fine there

[nova yarrow]

aight ty

[crude void]

I never seen nexus king add phase on normal

Idk what are i talking about

[warm valley]

Yeah I skipped over the part where you explained that it was normal and it was a fast kill time sorry

[crude void]

So you are saying its bad for my Mythic Plexus log that it was a 8 minute kill?

Hmm

[dire osprey]

yea mythic was way different.........

[warm valley]

But yeah I've been on top of meters plenty, I meant I've never seen Boomie on top for overall raid data on archon or warcraft logs

[crude void]

Yeah boomie being on top means either a 2 minute kill or the rest of raid is an army of grey hounds

[strong bronze]

You'll never see boomie on top , the day that happens wow will die

[crude void]

There is really only 2 ways it can go down tbh

Boomie bad -> nerf warrior

Boomie bad -> buff ret pal

Dr Strange couldnt see any more possible outcomes

[dire osprey]

so far only on plexus king for me

[twin lotus]

when are we closing discord

[warm valley]

I dont think any reasonable amount of tuning will fix this cleave gap, maybe they know this as well and will opt to leave us in the pits of despair instead of trying to buff us in a meaningful way

[dire osprey]

but thats because half the raid barely knew what to do

adds dying in 5 seconds

feels so trash

and it happens too often in this raid

[strong bronze]

The most face roll spec in ret pal when they arent at the top of the meters

[warm valley]

They dont even live the full duration of a single starfall

[crude void]

I wouldnt even care about cleave if we were good in any other scenario

[dire osprey]

yea literally not worth pressing lol

[strong bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/red-button-spam-press-button-click-gif-17367381

[dire osprey]

and i feel like starfall does no damage anymore

[strong bronze]

It doesnt

[crude void]

Coz it actually doesnt

[dire osprey]

even in m+ starfire gapping it

so trash

[strong bronze]

By 10%

[warm valley]

Spenders being 40% of our damage again when?

[crude void]

I couldnt even get to the middle of the dps meter on mythic soulbinder

[strong bronze]

Keep in mind in season 2 starfall got nerfed and we lost the tier set buffing its dmg when shroom procced

[dire osprey]

change it back to the 10sec cd stuff and make it a tactical nuke at this point

forgot what the talent was called

that lets u cast while moving

[round field]

Nope

Drift aint coming back

[crude void]

Give us back the shadowlands night fae ungabunga convoke

[warm valley]

I would love a raid talent specifically to make starsurge cleave, but it disables starfall, so in raids like this one, where starfall has limited to no use, you could cleave with starsurge instead

[tiny ridge]

how do i auto log

[strong bronze]

Has the EC bugged been fixed in dungeons btw?

[crude void]

Problem is not on m+ starfall has limited to no use

[nova yarrow]

warcraft companion

[round field]

Think so

[strong bronze]

Where the starsurges actually do dmg?

[tiny ridge]

what us that]

[nova yarrow]

ehhh warcraft logs software

[warm valley]

Yeah but this could be fixed with like a 15-20% buff

[crude void]

I noticed that since i got the 4p set

[tiny ridge]

and?

[crude void]

I yet to see the surges fly

XD

[round field]

Wrong

Spec needs a overhaul from top to bottom

Not number changes

[strong bronze]

Yeah good luck with that

[warm valley]

I meant for that specific argument, but yeah id like a rework as well lol

[nova yarrow]

Ingame in Network Options activate ipv6 and ingame ./combatlog

https://gyazo.com/f72354d3b9697a9d82de5ae287afd4b9

[tiny ridge]

so is not auto logging

[strong bronze]

Even when midnight rolls around its still gonna be the same spec

[dire osprey]

remove starfall and make starsurge hit 8 targets

shoot out 8 lasers

[warm valley]

Fury of Elune applies moonfire when

[crude void]

Make starsurge cost 80 AP but it works like mages missles so we can be gatling guns

[tiny ridge]

fuk addons my pc start dying

[round field]

thats not from addons...

[dire osprey]

make it never end and automatically spend AP

like breath

[tiny ridge]

i have shit pc gg

wow is not for me

[nova yarrow]

SUS .wav

[crude void]

I call cap on that 1.7tb of addons

[tiny ridge]

can addons be in other file than C ?

[crude void]

Well if wow is not on C

[tiny ridge]

like overwolf, curseforge everything to be in D ?

is not in C

[crude void]

Addons will go to wows addon folder

So

Atleast they should be

[tiny ridge]

so what is the path for?

[crude void]

Probably for curseforge’s own stuff

[tiny ridge]

can overwolf be in D too ?

[crude void]

In can be anywhere

[tiny ridge]

so why they auto isntall in C ...

[silver pebble]

is this tech support channel?

[crude void]

You still need to browse for wows addon folder in all of the addon installers at some point

I can swidch du indian accend

[tiny ridge]

lets switch to #general

oh i cant send pics there

maybe #offtopic

[crude void]

Rather LinusTechTips

[lucid olive]

Nah just keep going bro ignore the haters

[tiny ridge]

ye idk

i cant fix it

looks good

[quiet drift]

I cant man

[maiden pasture]

bros 4th server

👀

[tiny ridge]

whats wrong with it

so how can i autolog

without doign anytinhg

[craggy sonnet]

bro

how about you clean up your drives man

and then download the loggerhead addon on curseforge

super simple

asks and then auto enables logging in instanced areas

[dire osprey]

[craggy sonnet]

unreal

[tiny ridge]

i didnt know

about loggerhead

[trail heath]

Surly buffs today

[round field]

click random yt vido

and ur set

[final schooner]

Balance druid buff when? 😔

[round field]

never

[tiny ridge]

never

[final schooner]

We looked so good in ptr

[wild dune]

[round field]

tale as old as time

find bug

abuse it on ptr

get nerfed into oblivion

[final schooner]

Yea

[wild dune]

Wasn't a bug

[final schooner]

Feels bad tho

[round field]

sure

not a bug

[wild dune]

Tier was just designed horribly.

[round field]

just a questionable dev decision

[wild dune]

And tbh if it went live people would complain about degenerate gameplay to maximize starsurge damage so

[tiny ridge]

loggerhead i installed it and cant find in wow

...

[round field]

Oh absolutely

[potent cargo]

delete this plz

[craggy sonnet]

did you install it tho

[tiny ridge]

ues

[tiny ridge]

?

[craggy sonnet]

then it would be there

[tiny ridge]

after 30 min ye

[craggy sonnet]

sure bud

[tiny ridge]

and how do i enable auto log

theres nothing in settings

[craggy sonnet]

you go in a dungeon

and it asks you

if you want to auto log whenever in this area

[tiny ridge]

and it auto upload on warcraft logs?

[craggy sonnet]

no

[tiny ridge]

....

[craggy sonnet]

you upload with the warcraftlogs uploader that you showed a screenshot of earlier

[tiny ridge]

so theres no way to auto log

i remember i did auto log before

and auto upload

[craggy sonnet]

in the warcraftlogs uploader you can "Live Log"

if thats what you mean

[tiny ridge]

ok i will try

looks complicated

wracraft log addon was easier

[craggy sonnet]

you are complicated ngl

then use the wcl addon

?

[tiny ridge]

theres no wcl addon

[potent cargo]

nah its uh

downloaded from warcraftlogs website

[craggy sonnet]

but it still doesnt auto enable logging

[potent cargo]

and then when u open that up u can jsut live log

[craggy sonnet]

i dont think

but yea

i dont get the issue here at all

just whining for the sake of it

[potent cargo]

then u can get some auto combat log weak aura from wago

and basically ur only job is to open wcl and hit live log gg job done

[tiny ridge]

everytime is start a key?

[craggy sonnet]

loggerhead does that

its ok

just open your warcraftlogs uploader or whatever .. toggle Live Logging .. go into a darn key

loggerhead will ask you once

and then do it

[tiny ridge]

An unexpected error has occurred: "Line 1 - This log was created without Advanced Combat Logging enabled, and is not supported on Warcraft Logs. You can enable Advanced Combat Logging from the Network pane of System preferences in-game. Delete your log file before enabling Advanced Logging, or this uploader will continue to refuse the file. - 8/29/2025 14:52:24.4572 COMBAT_LOG_VERSION,22,ADVANCED_LOG_ENABLED,0,BUILD_VERSION,11.2.0,PROJECT_ID,1"

[craggy sonnet]

blud

is killing me

you were told to enable that earlier

[tiny ridge]

it is?

[warm valley]

Did you type /combatlog

[craggy sonnet]

Delete your log file before enabling Advanced Logging, or this uploader will continue to refuse the file. - 8/29/2025 14:52:24.4572

[craggy sonnet]

stop

[tiny ridge]

just did

[craggy sonnet]

you dont have to

just delete the current log

[warm valley]

[tiny ridge]

which one tho

[craggy sonnet]

scroll down

[tiny ridge]

wowcombatlog>?

[craggy sonnet]

they are named WoWCombatLog

yes

but you can also delete them through the wcl uploader

[tiny ridge]

i have to close the game..

[craggy sonnet]

yes

these files are open while the game is open

[tiny ridge]

why this shit is so complicated...

[craggy sonnet]

game is actively writing to them

[tiny ridge]

and what now

[craggy sonnet]

you just cant follow instructions properly

and then get 5 people saying different things

so you are missing steps

open game again

just go into dungeon

loggerhead should ask you

enable live logging if you really want to

[tiny ridge]

and when should i click go

here

[craggy sonnet]

i think you can whenever

game close game open

before during after dungeon

[tiny ridge]

should i let this on all the time

[craggy sonnet]

if you want it to auto upload

[tiny ridge]

ok i wil ltry later

this shit complicated af

im bursted

[crude void]

Nobody is questioning how did bro fill a 2TB drive?

[craggy sonnet]

i dont wanna know

[warm valley]

Nah he just got Warzone installed

[stuck quartz]

these timings make me want to die

I love holding cds for over 1min

its like we are back to playing a substantially worse venthyr boomy

[amber raven]

from myt or hc ?

[stuck quartz]

mythic

[amber raven]

try hc settning

it looks good and match on myt

[jaunty blaze]

[amber raven]

but this loggs do have also for dungeon ?

[stuck quartz]

the timings are completely different on heroic

[amber raven]

wait for minute why dont use araz on EC in myt ?

but in heoric use EC

[worldly spruce]

because its bad

[jaunty blaze]

I swear to god its so hard to tell if this is troll

[stuck quartz]

EC is an extremely flat damage profile and is very impaired by any movement

Keeper does all of it's damage in CD's every 2 or 3 min based on fight, and hits like a wet noodle outside of them

[amber raven]

my bad. but it right on soulbinder is good use on EC ?

[jaunty blaze]

Depends how long the adds will live

[worldly spruce]

it's ok on soulbinder

[jaunty blaze]

You can

[amber raven]

i use too on keeper for araz

I think wrong boss talents...

[stuck quartz]

If adds die fast in your raid you are just better off attempting to be a boss damage chad and still being sad

[jaunty blaze]

Ec does piss all on araz

[stuck quartz]

don't waste time on starfall just spam star surge

[jaunty blaze]

Plus boss damage is more important

[amber raven]

best use EC on soulbinder and the soul hunter

I dont use Ec on araz i use too kepeer for spam star surge

[ebon void]

is there a weakaura that tracks your progress toward the damage cap within the dryad window? is such sorcery even possible?

[round field]

Yes but its useless

[stuck quartz]

if you are playing correctly you will hit the damage amp every time

[ebon void]

I was mostly interested to see how frequently I may be fucking it up

if it's pretty hard to do then that's good

[jaunty blaze]

Convoke fills it by itself

[stuck quartz]

and you never send CA without convoke and trees

CA > starsurge > trees > convoke > starsure starsurge > CA

should be ur window

or something close to that

[jaunty blaze]

Ideally 2 surges before trees

Or 2 gcds

[stuck quartz]

yeah you can do that 2min into the fight, not on pull

on pull you can only do 1

wrath + wrath 2s before pull > sunfire > moonfire > CA > SS > Trees > Convoke

[ebon void]

and for the opener we're pressing CA again before spending the two dryad surges?

[stuck quartz]

yes

[jaunty blaze]

I mean idk when you play full st build you have natures balance and can always send 2 surges on pull

[stuck quartz]

that also instantly gives you your 2 dryad surges

[jaunty blaze]

Alternatively you can surge 1 wrath into trees

[stuck quartz]

no one is playing natures balance pretty sure

on araz

[ebon void]

oh pressing CA again kills the dryad a second early so that it fits into trees?

[jaunty blaze]

On araz no

I thought we were talking generally

[stuck quartz]

no sorry I may have missed that

[ebon void]

I'm not talking about araz specifically

different guy lol

[jaunty blaze]

Ye on araz i do surge and 1 wrath into trees

[halcyon panther]

With araz build I went: Starfire > pull > Starfire > MF > SF > Wrath > Wrath > CA > Surge > Surge > Tree > Convoke | something like that, sending somehwere at 8 or 10 sec of fight

[jaunty blaze]

So you line with first add spawn?

[halcyon panther]

yes

[round field]

No?

[halcyon panther]

Ending not really lining. 2 Seconds of CA with dryad for add spawn

[jaunty blaze]

Ye i mean the buffed surges

[halcyon panther]

yea

[ebon void]

so in pure ST we use both charges of CA in the opener sequence, and from then on we hold CA for convoke always?

[jaunty blaze]

You always did that

But ye usually you want to do something like double single double ca

Depends on kill timers or if there are dmg amps like araz

For araz you hold for amp

[gentle scroll]

I hate damage amps that dont line up for our cds man

holding is the worst

like damage stops on raz

kills me

[ebon void]

I appreciate the info, I was intending to main resto this season so all my guide consumption and practice etc was geared toward that. yet I find myself flexing balance about half the time

[round field]

If u play orange class youre bound do be unhappy

Only salvation is blue or purple class

[gentle scroll]

so true bestie

[round field]

Maybe yellow

[gentle scroll]

Green class kinda always cranks

[ebon void]

what's funny is I mained ele for the past like 6 seasons

when it was dogshit

[jaunty blaze]

Unforch

[round field]

Wrong blue class

Other blue class

!!

[jaunty blaze]

Light blue

[gentle scroll]

[ebon void]

fuck a mage

[bronze torrent]

Anyone got intel on how good Hekili is numbers-wise for balance raiding?

[potent cargo]

its not great for casters

[gentle scroll]

Probably not great. With the nuance of holding CDs for timings and damage amp windows, I would bet it under performs significantly

[potent cargo]

now if u played a melee that u can get high uptime on, ye i'd just use it lol

[lyric thicket]

Do we just starfall on araz p1 ? They Die so fast

[jaunty blaze]

Vibe it

[gentle scroll]

I think people are maybe rolling a single cast of it, but then just doing ST on boss

[bronze torrent]

I got the specc pretty much solved for me, looking into optimised starlord cancels next.

Though due to tuning I am not sure how involved I still feel and thought about taking the easy route.

Will maybe try it in a pug this week (missed out cuz of vacation) then

[gentle scroll]

this is not advisable

[jaunty blaze]

I dont think anyone cancels starlord

Its a very minor gain if done right

[gentle scroll]

You are far more likely to lose damage

[jaunty blaze]

But a major loss if you fuck up

[bronze torrent]

Hm

[iron chasm]

More chance of losing dps doing it wrong then gaining anything worth it doing it right

[potent cargo]

i used to do it now i just dgaf

[iron chasm]

I do it very occasionally

You sit at high asp anyway so only really need to do it very sparingly

[round field]

I do it perma

Because fuck this pig company

[bronze torrent]

It just feels so bad dumping AP into 3 second buff time remaining and then having no buff after that

[round field]

Making class cd 12 sec

But starlord 15

Making it perma desync from eclipse

Feels bad

[jaunty blaze]

Nothing syncs in this spec

[iron chasm]

Bad vibes sync well with the spec

[jaunty blaze]

Shiii

[iron chasm]

Truest shit

[bronze torrent]

True. Just feels off somehow.

First time ranged dps since WotlK and I end up with choosing balance 😅

[amber raven]

is there plater can fix to see who i should focus to interrupts ?

someting i miss and to late...

[iron chasm]

Just get Jundies it shows clear cast bars and colours the high prio interrupt mobs

[pallid bay]

honestly if u can toggle single target only

it might not be that bad

we dont do aoe anyway

[iron chasm]

Nah post buffs we’re gonna crank aoe dw

[amber raven]

how?

[craggy sonnet]

i think pretty much everyone does it that cares to try to optimize. not saying that anyone who is doing it doesnt instead lose dps tho

[bronze torrent]

As far as I remember you can toggle ST only

[iron chasm]

Can get the plater profile off of wago.io

[amber raven]

i have plater from dwilkz

but i dont know which color is to focus interrupts

[iron chasm]

Ah couldn’t help you I’ve not used his profile unfortunately

[bronze torrent]

Buffs?! 💩

[iron chasm]

Yeah man

Tomorrow surely

[bronze torrent]

I hope sth like "Contagious moonfire", spreading mf and sf automatically

With every tick!

[amber raven]

or does have macro to cast fast interrupts with soal beam?

[jaunty blaze]

[iron chasm]

I mean outside of mouse over and focus target interrupt you can’t really do it much faster I don’t think

[amber raven]

ok. so it best i should aks him dwilkz for plater profile? for who is most focus to interrupts?

[crude void]

Well technically you can set different colors for the more dangerous mobs

and modern addonpacks play a sound when the dangerous cast is happening

[low sigil]

I got the mythic voidglass spire last night 😄

[still juniper]

are there any good talent build lists per Omega boss yet? I'm new to WoW (seriously lol) and enjoying raiding but finding myself wondering the best talent loadouts for each of the bosses. Is it possible to copy talent builds from top parses on warcraftlogs?

[digital berry]

It is indeed possible

You can copy and paste the code or just copy visually and make different talent builds for each boss

[low sigil]

bro mouse drew all of those lines

[storm frigate]

just noticed my crit rate is only 7%, that seems awfully low

[still juniper]

nice thanks everyone.

Any other recommendations for improving my raid performance? I noticed WoWAnalyzer hasn't been supported for a while. Other than watching streams/vods are there any other tools I should be aware of for improving my performance in raid?

[lofty depot]

It's probably low yes

[lofty depot]

Wow analyzer isn't directly used for rotational fixes but rather cancelled casts, asp consumption/waste, starlord uptime.

If u want help with your rotation post a log

[trail heath]

buffs today

[merry ibex]

I am absolutely tripping on copium and hoping for this

[normal pilot]

3% aura buff

[royal zenith]

they will nerf starfire, buff starsurge, buff starfall a bit and 3% aura buff

[supple haven]

If I take any more of this copium I'll be high as a kite

[digital berry]

What time should I check back for buffs to be disappointed in today?

[graceful plank]

Probably in another 6 hours or so, usually later in the day for NA. They announced the post RWF class tuning last tier on Friday also (race ended on a weekend as well), so should definitely be today.

[merry ibex]

Okay but how funny would it be

If we just got straight up nerfs with zero buffs

[ionic oak]

Would be hilarious really

[digital berry]

Id be down for that, nerf everybody else

[ionic oak]

No. No nerfs to anyone. Just us

That would be awesome

[storm frigate]

and ret pally

[lofty depot]

He's lying don't believe him

[lucid olive]

BUFF MOONKIN AND NERF THE RAID

[storm frigate]

based

[snow elm]

I think boomies are in a fine place buffing them would make them too op for m+

[lucid olive]

Don't nerf the specs that are doing good either who cares, let them have fun

[dry compass]

They can easily buff keeper tree and not affect m+ moonkin at all

[lucid olive]

Just make moonkin not be a waste of space in raid

[lofty depot]

I think u make funny comment

[dry compass]

There's about 30 levers you can pull without touching their m+ performance

[storm frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/shifting-levers-frank-dwayne-johnson-jungle-cruise-manuvering-gif-21962441

devs right now

[lucid olive]

My favorite water starter is Froakie

[supple haven]

I've always said they should split raids from M+/world abilities just like they do for PvP - that way you can buff one without full tilting the other

[lucid olive]

No that's stupid

[dry compass]

They're gonna buff wrath and goldrinns and the damage increase from active trees and m+ won't meaningfully benefit from any of that

[tiny ridge]

buff st dmg

[digital berry]

If everyone gets buffed to the same lvl as the top specs or if everyone gets nerfed to the same lvl of the bottom specs, that’s kinda the same outcome

[storm frigate]

yeah but one is more fun and the other is dumb

[lofty depot]

There's a funny comic about this but it's from like years ago, I doubt I can find it

[dry compass]

The one with the balancing strategies of different games?

And it's not exactly the same outcome because performance is relative to the raid

[royal zenith]

its not

[dry compass]

If you reduce everyone down to a parity level that then necessitates raid nerfs in future, you would've been better off equalizing at a higher parity to start with

[royal zenith]

what is stupid is that M+ can affect tuning

[digital berry]

The raid is killable as is, nerfing everyone won’t necessarily make it impossible

[storm frigate]

but then wtf is the point of nerfing people?

'well folks already did it, lets make it harder for people in the back'

[digital berry]

There’s no point in actually nerfing everyone down to us

[royal zenith]

there's only a few outliers bottom and top

[digital berry]

We’re just shit talking

[royal zenith]

tuning overall is not that bad

[digital berry]

Yeah everyone else eating good

[gentle scroll]

If we get buffed too much, we might be featured in RWF on a council fight. Cant be having that.

[dry compass]

"killable" and "easy enough that our late tier CE guilds won't quit when they realize they can't finish it" aren't the same thing

There will be more raid nerfs at some point

They will 100% reduce the HP on p2 dimmy adds and reduce the strength of the knock back at some point

[supple haven]

we are already going to have the mid-season boost, and with the confirmation there wont be a s4, we are looking at another 6-7 months before the 'spring' release of midnight.

[dry compass]

If for nothing else than the fact most guilds don't have access to 3-5 evokers to stack time spirals

[craggy sonnet]

hey! i want m+ performance

[dry compass]

I'm not gonna say no but we're not bad enough in m+ to need it

[craggy sonnet]

how do you know

[digital berry]

The tier set is atrocious, clunky and just bad but the dps is fine ish no

[dry compass]

And for some reason balance team cares a whole lot about community whining that moonkin is always good in m+

[craggy sonnet]

do they?

[dry compass]

There's active discussion in the class design team regarding the elunes chosen tier set

[craggy sonnet]

i thought they dont care about anything that the community says

[dry compass]

That's the extent of the knowledge I have, but there's some lights on there

[dry compass]

If that was true vdh would still have double sigils

[strong bronze]

I mean why nerf it then if there is an active discussion , tier set is pure dogshit

[dry compass]

It was only community crying about every tank being vdh that got that changed

[craggy sonnet]

well, they can come to their own conclusions

but usually stupid whining is not something they are receptive to

ok

[dry compass]

The actual pushers didn't care cause they reroll to best tank every season anyway and that being vdh every season makes life easy

[digital berry]

Well it’s not healthy for the game to have one tank be that much stronger and have that much more utility then everyone else

[dry compass]

Agree but they could've easily changed dungeon design to solve that problem instead of taking the axe to vdh

Less use of casters to create difficulty and vdh falls off a cliff

[digital berry]

Yeah ok but which of the two is easier to do

[dry compass]

Well exactly

Nerfing vdh is easier AND gives the community what they want

[royal zenith]

[dry compass]

Overhauling their design principles is harder but better for the game long term

But the community won't notice that shit and they won't get credit for it

[royal zenith]

tell them to nerf the starfire buff, increase buff duration for EC

so they can make the spec overall better

[digital berry]

And the chance of 2p

[dry compass]

I get simple crumbs of information friend I have no method of getting feedback in front of them

[digital berry]

40% feels like 10% most of the time

[royal zenith]

who knows, maybe they are reading

I dunno... it seriously can't be this hard to just come up with a solution

especially not if you're fine with other classes being op

[strong bronze]

Just make the buff be permanent till used , so you can actually get some value out of it

Most of the time it just runs out before the start of a pull

[dry compass]

I find it's super streaky but not far off 40%

Like I'll go a whole incarn with no proc then get 5 straight afrerwards

[craggy sonnet]

% prolly works out

but its just too inconsistent

and annoying

[digital berry]

The amount of times I hold foe to get ca + lust + 6 stacks on next pull only to get 0 procs in 5 starfires and straight up lose the buff is maddening

[craggy sonnet]

like i know they like their little random thingies

[dry compass]

I don't know what their probability randomizer is but it's probably got a lot of "performance over true random" sacrifices involved

[craggy sonnet]

but you could have legit made it every other starfire

and everyone would be happy

[dry compass]

Maybe not

[craggy sonnet]

(+ increase to the stack duration)

[dry compass]

Plenty of research out there that people get higher highs from randomization than the same frequency of deterministic effects

The whole gambling philosophy

[craggy sonnet]

yea

i know

but this is applied badly

[dry compass]

Idk, this is the kind of shit that if the class wasn't so bad we wouldn't really care about

[craggy sonnet]

there is no real high

[digital berry]

Im not tryna get hard while doing keys I just want to not have to fight with my own abilities

[craggy sonnet]

and just really low lows

[royal zenith]

agree with this

[dry compass]

I tend to be of the mindset fix the tuning and worry about the other problems if and when they persist

[craggy sonnet]

no, i would care

because it plays like trash

[wicked shuttle]

VDH is literally the exact same this season as it was last season

[craggy sonnet]

they were talking about df vdh

[wicked shuttle]

Oh DF VDH

[craggy sonnet]

when they took away their double sigil

[dry compass]

Yeah specific reference to double sigils removal

[digital berry]

It already feels bad to use spenders in aoe, it feels bad to use foe when you got 1/2 procs since last one, it feels bad to end a pack with procs you know will expire

[craggy sonnet]

(its still plenty strong now)

[dry compass]

It's okay unc you're too busy to read the whole thread we know

Actually fuck am I older than you

[craggy sonnet]

sheesh

[dry compass]

@wicked shuttle when's your birthday

[wicked shuttle]

20th of Feb

[dry compass]

Year?

[wicked shuttle]

97

[dry compass]

Oh fuck

[digital berry]

What’s the last 4 digits your social security number

[tawdry oak]

Name of first pet

[digital berry]

Mothers maiden name ?

[tawdry oak]

Street you grew up on

[digital berry]

Favorite movie as a child ?

[tiny ridge]

so should we use these trinkets in keys

[tawdry oak]

Gottem bois

[dry compass]

Parapodia v good in keys

[digital berry]

Identity = stolen

Bye bye

[wicked shuttle]

Antenna also very good in keys

Double passives simmed pretty high when I was checking earlier

[dry compass]

You want haste for keys but no haste for raid so if you keep an extra set of trinkets/jewelry to swap out you can do a lot better in keys with little effort

[tiny ridge]

antena hard to get ;/

I see people who do higher keys use those 2

[stiff maple]

Just loot it

[wicked shuttle]

Ya those trinkets are decent

They’re just farmable

[digital berry]

Myth antenna in vault next week TRUST

[wicked shuttle]

Sacbrood also simmed decent when I was checking

Could be good to do some mdt sims with your options

[craggy sonnet]

sacbrood is just worse parapodia

[wicked shuttle]

Can’t wear 2 parapodia

[craggy sonnet]

yea but usually an active is better

[pallid bay]

Zoomer

[craggy sonnet]

even if it might be close in a sim

[digital berry]

Isnt 97 still millennial ?

[tiny ridge]

we craft off hand and wrist?

[dry compass]

Don't think so?

[wicked shuttle]

I’m Gen Z

[digital berry]

Oh yikes

[warm valley]

The eldest of gen z

[wicked shuttle]

Only if you’re gonna get a mythic fract weapon

[dry compass]

I'm one of the last millenials, 97 is earliest gen z

[pallid bay]

Bro said it with his chest..

[craggy sonnet]

you craft 2h weap if you do not currently own a myth track mh or oh

[wicked shuttle]

I’d slam a 2h, yeah

[tiny ridge]

on google it says if u have hero 1h u can craft offhand

[craggy sonnet]

no

thats only true for the hero fract dagger

[craggy sonnet]

and its not really good for keys

[pallid bay]

On Google 😭

[round field]

boxna

can u do

[dry compass]

I wonder how holding for back to back CAs looks if you're running ritual forge

[round field]

iq test

and post results here

[craggy sonnet]

this is not any hero 1h btw

[digital berry]

Don’t wanna be rude but this boxna guy does this all the time, ask questions, don’t listen to answer, post random screenshots, bitch and moan

[wicked shuttle]

Grok is this true

[craggy sonnet]

in a dungeon?

[round field]

grok says is true..

[pallid bay]

Be nice

[tiny ridge]

just look at your pfp

[dry compass]

Yeah

30s buff even tho it's decaying so how much value are you really getting sending it with a single CA

[craggy sonnet]

seems like a lot of downtime on forge

[pallid bay]

Real u tell him

[dry compass]

Would have to be some juggling like you do in raid

[craggy sonnet]

but it should send double CA at the start anyways (probably)

[low sigil]

I got voidglass spire last night and was checking trinket priority. I thought getting the voidcore trinket would be good to activate the 2 set bonus, but surprised that is not the case. Is this what others see too?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4WA8E5kjY3u5P155z4HsaP
I feel like its kinda a waste. game devs implemented a 2 set bonus that isn't even better than not having the 2 set with other trinkets? seems wrong

[craggy sonnet]

yea well, that might be something that works in a sim

[dry compass]

I'm sure there's some cook with routes where you space out Giga pulls and holding for double ca is worth

[craggy sonnet]

but juggling to make it so its useful to double CA

at this point of a dungeon

[royal zenith]

what's wrong about a numbers game

[craggy sonnet]

sounds awful

[royal zenith]

it's not that deep

[wicked shuttle]

It’s good for some classes. It’s just less good for ours

[royal zenith]

you would also wear your old tierset if it does more damage

[wicked shuttle]

@pallid bay how’s dimmy

[warm valley]

More mushrooms pls

[craggy sonnet]

too bad its way less good for ours for no apparent reason. drew the short straw

[storm frigate]

we were too good in beta, sorry

[loud kettle]

its cuz ur a druid

Druids are supposed to heal

[craggy sonnet]

right, too bad shamans arent

[loud kettle]

Correct

[limpid coyote]

Hello, could someone explain to me how I can simulate myself in dungeons because the dungeon slice module has been disabled?

[tiny ridge]

5 bosses 2 min

[craggy sonnet]

bro

please

stop

[digital berry]

I’m starting to think he’s just trolling

[tiny ridge]

whats wrong to sim like this in dungs?

[royal zenith]

well he doxed himself several times

so I don't think it's trolling

[craggy sonnet]

the easiest way to just get rough gear recommendations is to just do the standard 1t5m sim.
the more advanced way (which is just gonna show you to get slightly more haste) is to make a route on keystone.guru and export it as sim, put that in the footer of you Expert SimC Options

[craggy sonnet]

everything

[jaunty blaze]

the classic of 5 bosses for 2 minutes fight

[digital berry]

Lmao has he ? Damn

[tiny ridge]

how should i do

[echo field]

https://tenor.com/view/patiently-waiting-waiting-waiting-patiently-still-waiting-gif-3590841176648399679

[limpid coyote]

oh thanks

[echo field]

Waiting for class tuning

[pallid bay]

We only had like 5 pulls but they felt fine tbh

I'm kitten though

[warm valley]

Ready for set proc chance increase, 8% aura buff and a keeper set cap increase

[craggy sonnet]

literally just answered the other person

[lucid olive]

oh so we're just capping now

[lucid olive]

5% starsurge, 10% wrath, 5% aura, keeper tier set 25x cap, EC tier set removed duration on gathering moonlight

and then a random 6% on power of goldrinn for the vibe

[jaunty blaze]

ah

[warm valley]

So i still get no procs?

https://tenor.com/view/tigger-tigger-winnie-the-pooh-tigger-sad-disappear-gif-25009198

[lucid olive]

yes but the buff wont run out anymore pog

[warm valley]

[normal pilot]

ok now that's cope that they're even aware of that issue

[quiet drift]

Perma stacking stuff

Real ramper spec

[royal zenith]

good thing you dont want to spend more on EC

[grim hull]

when i use starsurge once with 2p and only spam starfire starlord stacks up to 3, if i do not surge once to "start" the starlord manually it will not procc from the set starfires, is that normal?

[royal zenith]

for cdr of FOE

[lucid olive]

have you tried to send a 6 stacker buff full moon

with all the full moon buffing talents

that shit does 0 dam

[craggy sonnet]

real?

[lofty depot]

What about ele sham

[tiny ridge]

guy told my starfall is pulling mobs xD

[strange edge]

I was all excited for a second too Gamz fuck

Big moons back

[warm valley]

[lucid olive]

blackhand player

gg

[loud kettle]

They're supposed to play enhance, blizzard messed up

[warm valley]

Why would you use starfall? Are you trying to pull the whole dungeon??

[lucid olive]

we had enhance player on soul hunters

he got rank 1

(out of 1)

[lofty depot]

"enhance player"

Only the best one

[low sigil]

i hate when i watch a healer body pull and then mobs just turn to me because i have starfall going.

[tiny ridge]

look at this

[wicked shuttle]

@lucid olive today is the day

[dry compass]

So fucking sad that our iconic big Crit identity has to be limited by PvP complaining

[lofty depot]

Stop baiting

[dry compass]

Give me back 200% healthbar full moon crits

[warm valley]

ominous

[lucid olive]

5% aura buff and some M+ nerfs!!!

[grim hull]

@craggy sonnet yeah, just couble checked it on a dummy. I surge ones to start starlord and spam only starfire afterwards, it stacks up then to 3. I first thouhgt maybe it is my weakaura but it shows as a "real" buff too. I thought the starfire proc surges do not stack starlord up

[lofty depot]

Yea but he said we were gonna be on this tier, and that shit didn't happen

[lucid olive]

no they do

[lofty depot]

So let's not pin any tettles messages

[lucid olive]

Blizzard said they would

they behave the same as Starsurge from Convoke

[tiny ridge]

why thw guy sayin i pull mobs with starfall...

[grim hull]

ah okay i guess, weird that i need to "start" it tho, if i just spam fire without anything else nothing happens

[craggy sonnet]

they do

[lucid olive]

Just ignore him brother

[craggy sonnet]

but they should also do it without you starsurging first

[grim hull]

after i asked a few days okay everyone told me no they do not proc starlord

[lucid olive]

that would stack it too

maybe you just didnt proc

[lofty depot]

What if we complain about gathering moonlight buff, and they make it so the first Starfire of said eclipse gains a stack. Like the DF S1 tierset

[eager raft]

how can u prove that it wasn’t Starfall

[grim hull]

okay thanks for explaining it guys, ty

[woven flint]

aug is getting buffed before balance mark my words

[wicked shuttle]

Isn’t Aug good?

[dry compass]

Aug is pretty good

[lucid olive]

I can't, but the guy is clearly bothered by being accused of it so he should just ignore him

[dry compass]

Think they have a pretty wide skill band based on how well you buff the other "good" classes but even played badly I think they're overall better than boomie

[royal zenith]

Augmentfluup is owning

[lofty depot]

Yea but Aug buffs the good specs, it itself isn't good right... Right.,....

[lucid olive]

I remember when Fluup was one of us..

[royal zenith]

he'll play devourer with me

[lofty depot]

Ur literally an evoker player

Hello

Like all of u rats are

[dry compass]

Excuse me I've played evoker for exactly one boss

[lofty depot]

All the homies are not boomkin anymore

[dry compass]

And that's because after tindraal I didn't want to spend all of fyrakk prog in fucking bear form again

[woven flint]

i only log in on the boomie staying true to my roots

[royal zenith]

pretty sure you also played evoker yourself arctic

and even worse, mage

[lofty depot]

Never

Mage, yessem

[dry compass]

Filthy mage player

[warm valley]

Boomer gang

[dry compass]

Get him out

[royal zenith]

I remember a bald Garyeet

a bald dragon

[lofty depot]

But that's cuz guild need mage buff and other mage vacations during prog

[wicked shuttle]

If my guild was more hardcore I def would’ve played ele sham

[royal zenith]

yeah ele sham pamper

[lofty depot]

I don't have a garydragon, unless I'm dragon Deez nuts on ur face

[lofty depot]

Why Tarisantm not get flame but I do

[normal pilot]

streamer privilege

[wicked shuttle]

Same reason Fev doesn’t

[lofty depot]

Smh

I stream, just not famous

[warm valley]

Its okay, boomer doomer mode ends on Tuesday and we start blasting again

[wicked shuttle]

Actually I think Fev got banished to moonkin this tier

LOL

[dry compass]

Bring tarisant here I'll flame him too

[royal zenith]

I will mess you up

if you mess with cory

[lofty depot]

Cory plays boomkin eventually

Just after tier dead

[woven flint]

i mean if you are in a higher ranked guild you cant really play a boomie now can you. advantage of being in a lower ranked guild around world 1000 is i can play watever i want and still perform 🤷‍♂️

[lucid olive]

Oh yeah that's right, @gilded wolf status check?

[royal zenith]

you say this every tier romance

we dont care about your ego

[dry compass]

Plenty of people in high-tier guilds still playing moonkin

[lofty depot]

There's a bunch of top 50 guilds playing boomkin

[wicked shuttle]

Last I heard from him he said he was playing poe

[lofty depot]

It's not optimal but they're doing it

[woven flint]

they do ? damn

[dry compass]

Truefire has banned moonkin like 10 times but adept keeps playing it

[royal zenith]

In before you start playing orbital strike on forgeweaver

[woven flint]

guess we not downt hat bad

[storm frigate]

yeah but they're better than me, and that's not fair

[wicked shuttle]

Adept is playing cat isn’t he?

[lofty depot]

Ye

[woven flint]

didnt get the green light from dsune for that

[dry compass]

He was playing boomie on earlier bosses

[woven flint]

so prob not

[wicked shuttle]

https://x.com/FSYFev/status/1960051169708937472

Fev (@FSYFev)

My tier is over so;
- Bosses are pretty fun and look good
- Araz, Fraccy and Soul hunters did absolutely not need to get butchered week 1. Nerfs were needed but there's a middle ground between nerfing & butchering a fight.
- Buff boomkin
- Cya on osrs

X · Aug 25, 2025, 6:46 PM

[dry compass]

Haven't looked at what he's doing for nexus

[wicked shuttle]

@lucid olive

[lofty depot]

Dwilkz spr
Sune cat
Gamz is shit
Tariant mage
Tettles bench

[lucid olive]

oh yeah i saw this

[dry compass]

Tettles is parsing really well for bench spec

[wicked shuttle]

I lost to a tank 2 weeks ago

With a 50% parse

[storm frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-excuse-me-gasp-what-shocked-gif-16356523

[lofty depot]

Fev is for the boys

[storm frigate]

don't you speak like that about gam gam

[lucid olive]

Shroomee in Northern Sky played chicken on Nexus King

[warm valley]

https://tenor.com/view/my-first-girlfriend-turned-into-the-moon-thats-rough-that-rough-buddy-avatar-avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-5710468

[lofty depot]

Oh shit I forgot shroom

[dry compass]

That's okay I got called shit for parsing 85 on forgeweaver because everyone doing the same number was green/grey parsin

[lofty depot]

He gamer played boomkin on tswift and fyrakk

[lucid olive]

ofc you did cause you don't actually care

mage reroller tourist

[lofty depot]

Shut up rat

[gilded wolf]

I got banished to feral mate

[lofty depot]

I r1 boomkin, I will not take this

[royal zenith]

you have to objectively play the fight wrong on forgeweaver, to parse on bamkin

[lucid olive]

(out of 1)

[royal zenith]

same for soulbinder

[dry compass]

Define wrong

[royal zenith]

not focusing on boss dam

[dry compass]

There's nothing on forgeweaver that doesn't need to die

[royal zenith]

your starfall does jackshit

compared to spriest/warlocks

[wicked shuttle]

Gotta get krona back

[lofty depot]

Nuhuh, I kill all the collectors evenly

[woven flint]

guess we still have recruitie

👍

[lofty depot]

Krona rwf, so no boomkin ever

[gilded wolf]

I topped fraccy, did 32 mil dps on the drake on nexus king

and logged out

[lucid olive]

yes and damaging adds is bad for parse

[dry compass]

Nah that echo needs to die before the amp, unless it's dying miles before the amp starfalling it is the correct play

[gilded wolf]

[lucid olive]

yes and you can't parse pressing starfall

[dry compass]

Trying to pad on manifestations is bait

[lucid olive]

thats what he means

[lofty depot]

It doesn't actually

U can kill during amp

[royal zenith]

the echo is very low prio

[lucid olive]

you can't parse on those fights playing it correctly

[lofty depot]

U can kill after amp even

[royal zenith]

you can go into last phase with 6% on the boss

[lofty depot]

Tank damage parse might cry