Not the 2nd CA one sure
#balance
lofty depot
grand radish
Can anyone briefly give me an idea of what the rotation should be on forgeweaver adds assuming keeper st talents?
Should I just swap from single target rotation to Starfire Starfall spam after dropping a couple moon fires and a sunfire?
Or is it worth full committing to aoe on mythic?
digital berry
Can anyone briefly give me an idea of what the rotation should be on forgeweaver...
On intermission or canisters ?
lofty depot
I Sunfire and st boss
lofty depot
Stand between echo and boss, and starfall
lofty depot
Yea noob
digital berry
Yeah I sunfire and starfall
Since we got aoe talents starfall on 2 ( boss and echo) is dps neutral and you get to hit some of the spawned adds so I guess it’s a dps increase
But I’m in solar ain’t casting a single starfire
lofty depot
But I’m in solar ain’t casting a single starfire
U cast Starfire to get into solar
Fuggn liar
stone ledge
I feel like there’s value to go into lunar on the b2b sets
digital berry
Gotta stand so you hit it since tanks love pulling the second echo to Narnia
Nah
You’re not moonfiring them
So you only have one dot and starfire doesn’t so shit
lofty depot
Meh, I'm fuggn typhoon and vortexig. And fuggn cringe shit
stone ledge
Yea same
stone ledge
But I specifically have trees up for a double add set
digital berry
I just throw trees on cd idgaf
stone ledge
I don’t mind typhoon and vortexing since I play m+
lofty depot
But I specifically have trees up for a double add set
I throw some wraths at boss and splash with dreamburst
I'm helping
digital berry
Was sat on first boss this week so I only have 1 vault slot in myth track, kill me
lofty depot
But yea, the echo cleave basically helps with not needing to target it during intermission hoepfully
craggy sonnet
you actually "only" lose a FoN if you delay first CA til idk like 14s or something to snipe first adds with 2nd CA surges
lofty depot
Depending on spawns
lofty depot
Splash on 4 mobs big
digital berry
Padding
lofty depot
MT PARSE
lofty depot
Losing a trees I do no damage with said trees
digital berry
You do no dmg no matter what
craggy sonnet
do a sim, make it lose 1 trees
lofty depot
Tell that to my 12mil opener mother fuck
digital berry
How you gonna trash talk me for going ec on soulbinder and then pad like that
lofty depot
Big splasher
lofty depot
? They got a die dawg
lofty depot
Those are important adds
digital berry
The only set that is a little slow is the final set into intermission
lofty depot
Need to die, me help
covert talon
Flask of Tempered Mastery or Flask of Alchemical Chaos wich is better?
lofty depot
Chaos
digital berry
Flask of Tempered Mastery or Flask of Alchemical Chaos wich is better?
Sim it but it’s chaos
grand radish
But I’m in solar ain’t casting a single starfire
Sorry just to confirm, you do dump ap into AOE, but generate with wrath regardless of targets in this fight?
digital berry
Sorry just to confirm, you do dump ap into AOE, but generate with wrath regardle...
Yes
grand radish
And it's worth moonfiring them all? On mythic
digital berry
Go solar spam starfall hit both boss and echo and little manifestations with a sunfire when they spawn
lofty depot
Most of the time it's spread
digital berry
No
lofty depot
And it's worth moonfiring them all? On mythic
No, Sunfire maybe
grand radish
Gotcha
lofty depot
They maybe live 6-8 seconds
So it's like "worth" but the gcds required are just shit
Fdk and monk kill, me wrath
digital berry
I didn’t really try hard too much but it might be worth holding trees here and there for up to 15 seconds to have them up for adds spawning
Cba
lofty depot
I do it a few times and then my trees I send like right before knock back
And it dots collectors and shit
digital berry
Intermission is so chaotic
I get turned around so much
Trying to make sure dots don’t fall off on all the shit while dodging lines
digital berry
Yeah it’s hard to get hit by those
I did get meleed by the add one pull
Stood too close
digital berry
And on pull
By the time first adds and echo die I’m like 3rd on the meters, usually around 7.5 mill
It’s downhill from there
And god forbid I don’t crit surges on amp
lofty depot
And on pull
Type shit
digital berry
How badly are they going to butcher this pass of balance changes
What’s the over under of them overbuffing us
lofty depot
3rd cuz not padding
digital berry
The fight is overall pretty enjoyable ngl
lofty depot
Also little rat evokers stealing my damage 
digital berry
The add sets in p1 feel very good imho with how they chain into each other and the rotation of the raid around the room
lofty depot
Were at like 60 on araz cuz range dont know how to soak day 1
Spam die to first / 2nd soak for 2 hours kek
digital berry
Ohh
digital berry
But Gary is full of copium
lofty depot
Get mad about that
digital berry
Is that your actual name btw
digital berry
Can’t tell if you’re fucking with me
lofty depot
@lucid olive
sonic surge
if guild kills plexus sentinel and soulbinder, does that make loomithar loot available for vault?
lofty depot
Can’t tell if you’re fucking with me
Yes my name is gary
lucid olive
Is that your actual name btw
No
sonic surge
we have never killed loomithar
digital berry
if guild kills plexus sentinel and soulbinder, does that make loomithar loot ava...
Yes
sonic surge
fuckkk means i cant sit for raid
lofty depot
Soulbinder boss 3
lofty depot
So he doesn't have to play the dogass EC build
sonic surge
cuz i dont need shit from plexus or soulbinder
digital berry
Raiding is fun tho
sonic surge
and soulbinder is just fucking annoying fight
lofty depot
What
digital berry
It’s so ez pz chill
sonic surge
my tanks dont stack the adds on boss
lofty depot
That's good for u
dire osprey
they pretty much spawn on the boss
sonic surge
no because the melee go zerg the adds
lofty depot
That's crazy
sonic surge
and i cant just cleave
dire osprey
sonic surge
yeah i literally am playing kotg for it instead of EC because of that
lofty depot
But also, ur tanks are dumb if they pull adds off of boss or boss isn't stacked
dire osprey
i specced full ST for that boss
dire osprey
my melee kills them in 3 globals
sonic surge
less value to foe
digital berry
I played keeper on it
Cause you’re a looser
digital berry
Still lower then me
digital berry
If I had better rng on 2p procs and if 4p worked you’d have gotten smoked
digital berry
Yeah probably not gonna be worth to run ec
lofty depot
Fake 1.5% gain will not save u
digital berry
Unless they also buff 2p chance to proc
digital berry
You dirty padders
digital berry
Oh so don’t even get a second intermission add set at all?
digital berry
Surely because not everybody had the 3% yet
digital berry
Oh wellll sucks to be you
lofty depot
Yea, fuck about it
lofty depot
We didn't kill araz cuz we have stinky melee that run into boss with pools and then in intermission die on repeat
We had like 3 good intermissions with no one dead
Insane
digital berry
Melee being melee
lofty depot
Like I'm dodging 3 lines and these fucks can't dodge 1
Insane
Oh I forgot to try funny bloom talent
digital berry
Good cause it’s a bait and you know it
digital berry
How does bloom = more starfall I’m confused
lofty depot
More asp silly
jade drift
benched after araz
fucking boomkin man
i swear to god if i saw a class tuning w/ 5% aura buff only
imma do something crazy
lofty depot
Boomkin good on fractilly
Kill time good
Boomkin buffed for soul hunters
Tell ur raid, ur big dam now
Gastank said gain like 1.5% on soulhunters
Massive stonks
lofty depot
I got u 🙂
low sigil
i tried bloom last night in raid and it felt good tbh. i did cap a little at times but i may just keep using it. had pretty good parses with it.
lofty depot
Parses.....
I was talking about 1 fight where I'm spamming starfall
Ain't no way ur using it on other bosses
digital berry
As long as you don’t fuck up the dryad windows you will parse like 75+ guaranteed so
low sigil
Gamz mentioned it in his video which is why i tried it out. He doesn't seem to think its terrible to play. makes the rotation easier. it sucks not getting buffed starsurge because i was short a little AP at the tight window right before CA falls off
lofty depot
He mentioned it back then cuz the cap was different
digital berry
Gamz mentioned it in his video which is why i tried it out. He doesn't seem to ...
That’s just you over spending
lofty depot
We now don't use foe or that because we hit the cap Everytime basically for free
low sigil
i realize that.
digital berry
Sit capped for 1 second
After convoke you have like 3 gcds, one surge 2 wrath’s sit at 120 asp for 1 more and blast
low sigil
im not suggesting its the right thing to do or that im playing the rotation perfect. im not.. i need a crutch tbh. im over the hill.
low sigil
i just was surprised using it last night didn't feel like i lost any dps.. it just felt better and i didn't notice any impact in output for myself
lofty depot
Nah ur fake
This shit fake
Only thing it has going for it, is it gave like 200 asp
If I got 5 cosmos procs, it probably does more
tiny ridge
we cast starfall in single target?
tiny ridge
what u mean no
Use
Sunfire icon
Sunfire
if the target will live for at least 5.5 seconds. Subtract 0.5 seconds for each additional target beyond the first. Wait until all targets are gathered.
Use
Moonfire icon
Moonfire
if the targets will live for 6 or more seconds and you will not overcap on AP. Start spreading
Moonfire icon
Moonfire
while the tank is gathering mobs.
Use
Starfall icon
Starfall
if you would overcap Astral Power with your next cast and you're not casting
CA icon
CA
/
Incarnation icon
Incarnation
next.
Use
Fury of Elune icon
Fury of Elune
if it's available the global before
CA icon
CA
/
Incarnation icon
Incarnation
.
Use
CA icon
CA
/
Incarnation icon
Incarnation
.
Use
Warrior of Elune icon
Warrior of Elune
if you have no stacks of
Dreamstate icon
Dreamstate
and will not overlap the
Starfire icon
Starfire
casts with
Dreamstate icon
Dreamstate
ones.
Use
Wrath icon
Wrath
to enter Lunar Eclipse.
Use
Fury of Elune icon
Fury of Elune
.
Use
Starfall icon
Starfall
if one of the following conditions is met:
Starlord icon
Starlord
is below 3 stacks.
Use
Starfire icon
Starfire
to consume any stacks of
Nature's Grace icon
Nature's Grace
and
Umbral Embrace icon
Umbral Embrace
.
Use
Starfire icon
Starfire
.
it says only wrath to enter lunar eclipse
Use
Wrath icon
Wrath
to enter Lunar Eclipse.
covert coyote
just no
tiny ridge
the only time it says to use wrath is to go in lunar eclipse
digital berry
Alright I’m done
jaunty blaze
wtf wall of text
digital berry
He even tried sliding into my DMs to bitch about being bad
lofty depot
Doesn't know how to take pictures
jaunty blaze
xd
lofty depot
He even tried sliding into my DMs to bitch about being bad
Ur supposed to help them
How u ever gonna get orange if ur mean
tiny ridge
lofty depot
tiny ridge
it clearly says only to enter eclipse
craggy sonnet
Starfall =/= starfire
tiny ridge
starfire*
digital berry
How u ever gonna get orange if ur mean
Mods in dg are too stingy with roles ill never get orange anyway
craggy sonnet
You do cast starfire as EC
lofty depot
Yes u Starfire on st
tiny ridge
what ec means
lofty depot
Mods in dg are too stingy with roles ill never get orange anyway
If I'm orange
Anyone can be
low sigil
did the 701 belt change in anyway? I just ran droptimizer on raidbots and its saying to replace it with 704 heroic pieces now. i don't recall it doing that in my past sims.
digital berry
You live here and got connections
I’m unsure how soma got orange but he probably sucked someone off
craggy sonnet
did the 701 belt change in anyway? I just ran droptimizer on raidbots and its s...
Probably wrong effect on?
digital berry
did the 701 belt change in anyway? I just ran droptimizer on raidbots and its s...
Show sim
Always post sim if you have questions about sims
low sigil
oh yeah i think that's it.. when i put my mouse over it, it doesn't show the effect just says "use to open"
maiden pasture
oh yeah i think that's it.. when i put my mouse over it, it doesn't show the eff...
right click the belt
low sigil
yeah you are right, i think its not showing correctly because i did armory lookup
lofty depot
Yea don't use armory lookup
low sigil
ah ok. i don't usually do that. im at work right now and i don't have my latest simc output
lofty depot
Just use the history button
low sigil
i got upgrades sim my last sim
lofty depot
Add them to top gear then
digital berry
Can you pull your input string from a sim ?
lofty depot
Yes
low sigil
i know that now 🙂 1 min ago i didn't know armory had a bug
digital berry
I never figured out from where
jaunty blaze
addon input
lofty depot
maiden pasture
dont take raw input
jaunty blaze
not the raw input
low sigil
do the original addon input
lofty depot
U have to delete some lines at the bottom
If u use raw input
Cuz it adds like iteration lines and fight time
low sigil
i got so lucky with loot last night. got heroic boots, alpha ring, then a heroic tier hands to replace my champion tier.. i ended up giving the hands back because i didn't wanna be greedy. i've never been so lucky with rolls
digital berry
I got heroic boots too
low sigil
nice grats
nova yarrow
someone a good tree for soul hunters?
dire osprey
from any difficulty
digital berry
I ain’t killed the damn boss yet how do you want me to get myth track boots
low sigil
we haven't either. we start myth prog tonight. 2 nights a week raid group mostly old enough to be 7 day timeout's grandparents and we still got CE last tier 😄
lofty depot
someone a good tree for soul hunters?
U play the m+ EC build
nova yarrow
U play the m+ EC build
aight
round field
Watch out he beat a mage
the mage did not in fact grow hands..
sand isle
With Elune's chosen in M+, is it better to wait for 6 stacks before using Fury of Elune? Or is it smarter to use Fury of Elune whenever we get it bacj
gentle scroll
No, use it
strange edge
Send on CD
dry compass
imagine ur boots at 40% instead of 50%
Imagine having the boots
delicate perch
Imagine not 
upper surge
Is kotg in higher keys straight up griefing, or just a bit weaker?
round field
basically griefing
upper surge
Dammit
edgy carbon
why the PSF neck up me (1,1%) when he has no mastery ?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5f5N1d8Us7roKmChkmntgg
normal pilot
no haste
tender elbow
why the PSF neck up me (1,1%) when he has no mastery ?
https://www.raidbots.c...
because crit/versa has been on the rise, whilst ur neck has haste
edgy carbon
mhhh okais ty
craggy sonnet
haste bad
mastery p good
but crit vers are catching up to it quickly
once you have decent mastery amount
meager veldt
So I finally got my ring and neck from halls, I have been following mastery>haste>crit>vers like wow head says between ec and kotg gear is relatively the same , but when I clike the stats page on wow head it says haste is all the way the bottom of kotg. So I looked at Warcraft logs at other boomies and they have like 3-5k haste is that right ? As of right now I’m like 27%mastery 31% haste and 11%crit . Do I need to something different ? My guild is going into mythic but I’m split between keys and raiding .is there that big of a difference?
lofty depot
EC and keeper gear aren't relatively the same
wintry umbra
would it be bad to use surge during a lunar aoe if something needs prio dmg or jsut better to solar st it
lofty depot
Eclipse doesn't determine ur spender
digital berry
lofty depot
Whoops
wintry umbra
Prio and target count do
so like king salad intermission with the titan could be a reasonable mix of lunar with the starfires but still get the prio of surge
lofty depot
so like king salad intermission with the titan could be a reasonable mix of luna...
Sure
Can Starfall a bit too
Generally kept a Starfall up while surging otherwise
Ethical padding
wintry umbra
Sure
also thinks for all the help the other night made a pretty solid difference during raid this week i use hikili but i noticed it was commonly recomending a surge with the dryad bufff but before getting eclipse up
wintry umbra
Hekili....
just trying to play and enjoy the game not turn it into a job not looking to get 99 parses if i can get mid blue to low purple im happy which is exactly where i was
dry compass
Only time I've ever had a bis trinket in first 3 weeks of tier is when I vaulted mythic sacbrood on first vault of season 1
And then I never even got a mythic spymaster 
lofty depot
antenna is cheating
Just be able to hit big parse and get gear
Me at 707 doing more dam than 711 shaman
Skrill issue
digital berry
Me at 707 doing more dam than 711 shaman
You’re competing with obr players smh
( resto shaman )
digital berry
One button rotation
lofty depot
Oh, true
Blud is afk
He out sims be by like 300k and he couldnt beat me if his life depended on it
digital berry
No way you’re beating him on Araz
lofty depot
Uhhhh
I just need to stop pressing trinket in intermission
Then I can get this over 400m
Maybe press at the end of ca
digital berry
Yeah moving trinket to just before first ca expires is bis
digital berry
Yup and last time I tried I double cad by mistake cause they were too close to each other
I was PRAYING for a wipe
digital berry
It rolls over into second ca anyway
digital berry
Convoke is how you cast the two surges from first ca
lofty depot
Sounds like wasted dam
digital berry
1 before amp second ca, fall fall if you have the asp, trees convoke
craggy sonnet
what is wasted dam
lofty depot
Having convoke proc the buff
digital berry
I’m getting baited for sure
digital berry
I can’t imagine that 4 dryad surges into amp isn’t the best course of action
craggy sonnet
btw .. does anyone have footage of a boss pull with balance of all things as kotg from previous tiers?
me neither, thats why i planned around it
lofty depot
btw .. does anyone have footage of a boss pull with balance of all things as kot...
For what
digital berry
Hmm I deleted all my clips from last tier
lofty depot
My twitch has vods
lofty depot
Like a rat
craggy sonnet
supposedly it should put you at 60/120 with kotg expansiveness
lofty depot
Like brad Marchand and but taller
craggy sonnet
but it doesnt
digital berry
Like brad Marchand and but taller
Hey he’s hot af
craggy sonnet
it puts you to 50
lofty depot
but it doesnt
Hmmm
craggy sonnet
and it also resets to 50 with encounter start
which im not sure if that was the case previously
but both of these things are not accounted for in simc
lofty depot
P sure it was
lofty depot
surely theres mroe than just that vod
craggy sonnet
on gally it was the same behavior at least
lofty depot
mugzee = nb
lofty depot
wait a second
if u cast enough asp to get to 60... it reset to 60 on encounter
hmm i went from 66 after wrist cast to 58 here
digital berry
jfc this game
lucid olive
hmm i went from 66 after wrist cast to 58 here
NB resets to 50 + the 8 from Wrath
lofty depot
why does first one say 60
lucid olive
some rando proc giving you 2 more i guess
lofty depot
oh
just better at finishing casts with haste :/
so yea always 50
was correct before i looked
craggy sonnet
NB resets to 50 + the 8 from Wrath
gastank thinks natures balance is supposed to go to 60 with the 20 max ap talent
normal pilot
unlucky time to nerf balance more
craggy sonnet
we have been nerfed
normal pilot
it's supposed to change with max AP but i guess new dev decided no
craggy sonnet
is it consistent with astral communion at least?
what the frick is happening here without natures balance tho?
lofty depot
working as intended
robust oracle
on forgemaster mythic:
- do i dot all pillars?
- do i use starfall or starsurge?
maiden pasture
the boss was probably pulled for arctic already
so the starfire hit after combat started
craggy sonnet
on forgemaster mythic:
1. do i dot all pillars?
2. do i use starfall or starsurg...
yes, and starfall
craggy sonnet
the boss was probably pulled for arctic already
this is a sim
or if you are talking about arctics clip, yea .. thats what happened
maiden pasture
but the starfire on sim is what starts combat so it will probs remove it idk
craggy sonnet
how does it get to 20 tho?
lofty depot
with a fun crashing star
craggy sonnet
there are no dots out yet
lofty depot
uhh, got one from hit on moonfire
craggy sonnet
idk if thats a thing and would display like that in the sim
lofty depot
idk im spewing
craggy sonnet
yea fair
robust oracle
yes, and starfall
and just to make sure: i still dont use starfire, as long as there are not more than 4+ targets and i im in ca, correct?
digital berry
starfire in ca on kotg is pretty dead
craggy sonnet
uhhh
digital berry
like i cant imagine a situation when youd use it
round field
like i cant imagine a situation when youd use it
in aoe?
lofty depot
this big dam
digital berry
soulbinder? just go ec smh
lofty depot
erhm no
round field
ec on soulbinder sucks...
lofty depot
lofty depot
guess
misty patrol
craggy sonnet
is this floor pov?
digital berry
Araz?
lofty depot
soulbinder
misty patrol
Surely soulbinder
digital berry
Prot warrior is so strong holy
lofty depot
m+er tries to m+ in raid, and gets bodied
upper surge
many such cases
robust oracle
why dont use convoke here? can by dry af, has to give some value
craggy sonnet
what are you talking about?=
digital berry
why dont use convoke here? can by dry af, has to give some value
Save for amp
lofty depot
maybe their raid leader told them to cd colelctor
robust oracle
oh nvm, i thought convoke has 1:30 cd somehow, nvm
upper surge
take the 60s convoke talent
you know you wanna
What exactly are exceptional spells? Spenders for us/finishers for cat?
craggy sonnet
full moon
for us
flourish for resto
feral frenzy for feral
no idea for guardian
upper surge
I didn't even know Guardians have convoke
Either way that talent does not seem particularly exciting
upper surge
we have divine toll at home
versed garnet
heyho guys, do we hold cd's in ST for them to line up or do we just blast?
digital berry
Define hold cds
versed garnet
30 secs convoke
digital berry
We hold some use some on cd it depends on the fight length / type
Do you any specific boss in mind
versed garnet
CA is rdy and convoke not, 30 sec difference, do we try to align force of nature?
digital berry
That shouldn’t ever happen
We always pair convoke with ca trees
And ca with trees
Check lorrgs out to see what timings people use cds on if you’re raiding mythic
craggy sonnet
thats why you have two charges of CA
lofty depot
CA is rdy and convoke not, 30 sec difference, do we try to align force of nature...
u dont need to press ca when it comes off cd
craggy sonnet
you do not lose anything by waiting for convoke
lofty depot
u have 100+ more seconds before it loses value holding
digital berry
Well
lofty depot
yes
digital berry
Yeah but
Due to the dps gain of using 2 ca in the same convoke window
Fight length affects whether we hold for one more double set of ca or send ca with convoke every 2 minutes
Amp phases are also very annoying
Like in Araz where we straight up sit on cds until amp phase
digital berry
No
round field
thats an interesting kotg setup
digital berry
Well yeah if one of the targets is a shitter
craggy sonnet
thats an interesting kotg setup
its araz
although goldrinn is questionable i guess
lofty depot
although goldrinn is questionable i guess
recruitie talents
craggy sonnet
i mean, me personally am starfalling most of p1
and intermission anyways
so idk how goldrinn gets value there
craggy sonnet
hmmmge
i think im prolly also still running goldrinn
but just looking at the screenshot it didnt look right
craggy sonnet
is crashing star affected by umbral inspiration?
craggy sonnet
what dis?
lucid olive
is crashing star affected by umbral inspiration?
yes
lofty depot
He spam dotting idk
craggy sonnet
wdym spam dotting
lofty depot
U should see my loomithar, so much DPS to gain
craggy sonnet
he is dotting boss and echo no?
lofty depot
Me spam dotting
craggy sonnet
then its for sure umbral inspiration and crashing star
lucid olive
arctic parses cause every moonkin is playing cat
craggy sonnet
frick goldrinn
lucid olive
gg
lofty depot
Unless is range
lofty depot
arctic parses cause every moonkin is playing cat
Not everyone
craggy sonnet
They should be stacked
stacked? so they become immune and get dmg amp?
lofty depot
No
quartz hamlet
guys - on the dreamgrove page it states "The cleave from the Starsurge procs in Elune's Chosen tier set does not work inside instances." - is this still true?
lucid olive
always worked on dummies
loud kettle
Always worked on dummy
craggy sonnet
ok
loud kettle
Who won
lucid olive
works in instances now too
craggy sonnet
great
loud kettle
I lost gg
quartz hamlet
works in instances now too
thx!
lucid olive
get owned
loud kettle
if i got pinged I would've won...
craggy sonnet
hahaha
lucid olive
and thats why i get given the green name and orangemeow is still stinky..
craggy sonnet
will ping you both next time
quartz hamlet
is there a way to see the cleave portion of the tier set in details?
loud kettle
and thats why i get given the green name and orangemeow is still stinky..
Im saving up to jump to mod
Ramping if u will
lofty depot
Anyone have a twitch / youtube vod of a Forgemaster PoV as Boomie?
Recruitie, me
rotund kiln
Hi everyone.
I have two questions for Mythic Plus and raidbots.
First of all, what settings should I use for M+? Seven targets and two minutes?
spark inlet
Can someone guide me on how to go about m+? I want to push myself. I completed my first normal raid (the current one) the other day and want to dip my toes in keys.
Would it be reasonable to start at m0? I dont know anything about mythic
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9NWMBjCzk3Tq7WW7ULFXjz
lofty depot
Hi everyone.
I have two questions for Mythic Plus and raidbots.
First of all, ...
FAQ in compendium, no
hazy storm
Recruitie, me
On your twitch? I’ll check it out ty
lofty depot
Yes
hazy storm
Ty king
lofty depot
What r u looking for specifically
craggy sonnet
looking at arctic stinker pov
hazy storm
Uhh just when you should swap to lunar / if dotting every single add outside treants is worth
lofty depot
Can someone guide me on how to go about m+? I want to push myself. I completed m...
Ur 700 ilvl, u could've been doing m+
craggy sonnet
Uhh just when you should swap to lunar / if dotting every single add outside tre...
never and no
hazy storm
We’ve only had 1 night of prog so still new into the fight: made it to intermission. A few times
craggy sonnet
just sunfire
lofty depot
Uhh just when you should swap to lunar / if dotting every single add outside tre...
I dont
hazy storm
Okay thats what I figured
spark inlet
Ur 700 ilvl, u could've been doing m+
really? I just hit 700 yesterday. I dont really know what the entry level ilvl is
lofty depot
Most of the time I was just subfiring
Sometimes I did some moonfires, but u need to stop
lofty depot
really? I just hit 700 yesterday. I dont really know what the entry level ilvl i...
Most of us did mythic 10s at 684-690
I believe in u
spark inlet
Most of us did mythic 10s at 684-690
😔 wow , i live under a rock
upper surge
If you're gonna pug prepare for many declines
hazy storm
Kk I’ll watch vod after work and it should answer all my questions
spark inlet
I have a +2 key but I never ran that dungeon
lofty depot
Kk I’ll watch vod after work and it should answer all my questions
I hold CDs til 20, most dont
hazy storm
Yea I saw a lot of people popping ST burst on rip
And then using 3rd CA when you had the 3 add sets back to back to back before intermission
spark inlet
I'm assuming I should just join people? I have no io score so I dont think I'd be able to get in
hazy storm
We don’t have trouble killing the adds so I’ll prolly just use first 2 charges off rip
lofty depot
Nah u don't ca before amp
hazy storm
Okay
lofty depot
Well sorry, u don't ca before intermission
hazy storm
So just pop 2 initials and save next 2 for amp
lofty depot
Some gamers using CA at end of intermission so I can get 4 buffed surges during amp
But yea
hazy storm
Like popping a CA during end of pylon phase?
upper surge
I'm assuming I should just join people? I have no io score so I dont think I'd b...
join a couple of +2s, if it works out try to join higher, dungeons give score separately so preferably play different dungeons as you go higher
lofty depot
Like popping a CA during end of pylon phase?
Yes
hazy storm
Meh
upper surge
The only problem you might have in a +2 is that you don't get to do too much damage because mobs die too quickly tbh
spark inlet
join a couple of +2s, if it works out try to join higher, dungeons give score se...
Alright, thank you so much. It's daunting. Never thought I could do raiding, and then I cleared normal and shocked myself
hazy storm
and just save treants / convoke for 2nd one
upper surge
Alright, thank you so much. It's daunting. Never thought I could do raiding, and...
no worries, we all started somewhere 🙏
spark inlet
no worries, we all started somewhere 🙏
Ya'll are so nice, thank you ❤️
lofty depot
and just save treants / convoke for 2nd one
Yea send a naked ca
hazy storm
Ok tyty
lofty depot
Also trolling a bit. Need to fix for monday
hazy storm
It’s ok just having a better understanding on movement and rotation during little adds but I think I was overthinking
rotund kiln
FAQ in compendium, no
Sorry about that—what exactly do you mean by that?
hazy storm
Just dot big add and SF small ones spam starfall and wrath Araz
lofty depot
Just dot big add and SF small ones spam starfall and wrath Araz
I keep letting dots fall off
upper surge
Sorry about that—what exactly do you mean by that?
pinned messages in this channel, link to compendium in the first pin
explains most relevant stuff
hazy storm
During the set where you get 3 add spawns I let SF fall off on big add a few times just cause I’m still learning fight
Times like this where I wish I played melee or something idk
spark inlet
well a +2 accepted me, just have to wait I guess
lofty depot
During the set where you get 3 add spawns I let SF fall off on big add a few tim...
I need to stop trying to do things
Just bing chill
hazy storm
Just play the game 
lofty depot
Fuggn too much typhoon vortex w.e.
Our of eclipse timing is shit
Just out of it constantly and can't get back in
Cuz gcd locked need to press typhoon
hazy storm
Yea
Not having starfall ramp when adds spawn cause you need to move for mechanic kinda cringe
rotund kiln
And no, u don't use 7t 2m
ahh i see - 1t 5m - ok thats new for me 😄 thanks arctic
hazy storm
I was at like a 95-99 parse tied with dmg and 7 other DPS specs were at a 9 parse (it was wipe prog but still)
Buff boomies fr
hazy storm
I generally had enough asp to pre fall
Same
But was out of form for movement
So I over capped a little
hazy storm
Oh lunar / solar form
dry compass
Buff Boomie, then I'm just op
if breaking your fingers is the price necessary for boomie to get buffed this is a price I'm willing to pay
prime escarp
Hey y'all, I was switched to range for mythic this season, so I'm playing boomie for the first time.
Ive read up and watched videos but I'm still averaging a grey/green parse. I just picked out this random one from a few nights ago, not sure what I'm doing wrong.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WzaLyNcJbDvkq428?type=summary&fight=22&source=19
round field
why are we tiger dashing mid cd
lofty depot
Why r we tiger dashing at all
Is this tswift prog?
We play wildcharge not tiger dash
Weird send of surge before ca
Don't trees at the end of eclipse
So many cancels
Should hold this tree
Does no damage
prime escarp
So many cancels
Yeah that i know I need to stop
Just not used to range all the way
Is optimal placing for tree in beginning of eclipse?
lofty depot
Macro to CA and stop thinking about it
Trees before CA wrong
U also sent this early and then can't get a 2 CA burst
lofty depot
Is optimal placing for tree in beginning of eclipse?
Yes
Because ur dumping surges at the start of eclipse usually
Trees buff dam by 24% so u send when I'll get the most of out if
prime escarp
Appreciate the help a lot btw
prime escarp
I will take it off my bars lol
stone ledge
Cat form dash only when required in wild charge you can reup dots or use spenders while mid air
prime escarp
Oh that makes sense
stone ledge
I hate my phone
prime escarp
It was just on that phase of sentinel where youre running to the end of the room so nothing was going on there
lofty depot
Op I figured it out.... Apex talent 2/4 is Starfall has a cd but can cast while moving in it
3/4, (weaver removed from normal tree and put here)
Massive
All the places I posted about tiger dash, were during u casting other damage spells
So idk
coral cairn
hey guys , do we still play as season 2 in M+ or did the rota change due to the 4set
lofty depot
Plays the same
gentle scroll
No real changes
coral cairn
aight , ty
stone ledge
I’m gonna laugh when they make ec tier set actually matter for timing
Gotta hold fury for 23 seconds to get 6 stacks and miss out on a whole window kekw
fossil shard
Gotta hold fury for 23 seconds to get 6 stacks and miss out on a whole window ke...
Please fucking god no
jaunty blaze
you mean someone to upgrade it or a drop that upgrades it
jaunty blaze
dont think so
swift crater
you can use the macro and upgrade from anywhere
jaunty blaze
there is some macro for it
drifting nova
the what
swift crater
Paste the following into chat, or make into a macro:
/run GenericTraitUI_LoadUI()GenericTraitFrame:SetSystemID(29)GenericTraitFrame:SetTreeID(1115)ToggleFrame(GenericTraitFrame)
you dont need to go to the NPC
jaunty blaze
idk i have some addon or weakaura that did it for me
i didnt even know you need to talk to someone
swift crater
Yeah some addons like plumber etc do it also
drifting nova
wait is it not 1 per boss
warm atlas
So, let me get this straight.. my only option for single target is to download weak auras, track 3 different cooldowns on sep timers, and game multiple temporary buffs.. in order to ve dead last on the dps meters? 🤔
jaunty blaze
i mean not necessarily to all of these points
always depends what content you do and how good the people you play with are
lofty depot
So, let me get this straight.. my only option for single target is to download w...
That depends, cuz I do that but am not last
wind quartz
Kotf t4 is so anti fun to play for shit logs
EC on soul hunters is such a fun break. Warlocks still better, but so refreshing after getting dumpster tier parses on every ST fight
man owl sucks
wind quartz
I'm tanking in M+, miss me with that
lofty depot
So we're just spewing
jaunty blaze
but you like it on the boss
drifting nova
EC is just superior
jaunty blaze
stone ledge
Keep talking and they’ll force us to play in it single target do we need to bring that doom week
drifting nova
Keep talking and they’ll force us to play in it single target do we need to brin...
I already do, I'm ready
warm atlas
Arctic, how well do you do without add-ons ? Legit question, not antagonist or troll. Because base UI doesn't help track Eclipse in any meaningful way..
lofty depot
Nope, down with the m+ers
craggy sonnet
you can upgrade via macro
drifting nova
ok but when do I get thread
lofty depot
Arctic, how well do you do without add-ons ? Legit question, not antagonist or t...
Uhhh, what addons
U saying full default?
craggy sonnet
ok but when do I get thread
wdym? every boss drops one
lofty depot
No weakauras at all
warm atlas
That includes any sort of weak aura or buff timers.. yes blizz package default
lofty depot
Well, blizz UI getting buffed soon. So like
craggy sonnet
oh sorry .. wasnt scrolled down all the way
lofty depot
But u could probably blue/green parse as keeper just sending CDs and watching ur eclipse bar
warm atlas
Im asking because im curious as to what the dps diff is. It feels awful to play balance when you can't see eclipse, let alone temp buffs like tier set
lofty depot
The default name plate has it doesn't it
warm atlas
It doesn't. You have to look for the eclipse buff in your buff bar up top lol
craggy sonnet
the game is awful without weakauras
lofty depot
That seems crazy
wind quartz
It'd be fine if they fixed KotF numbers for the effort
Hoping for a buff #trust #cope
lofty depot
I think I could still do green parse if fixed my internal timer
crude void
If being literally the last dps in mythic doesnt worth a buff I guess nerf warrior
lofty depot
But have to probably move an action bar to the center of screen to see it
lofty depot
If being literally the last dps in mythic doesnt worth a buff I guess nerf warri...
Just player better and with worse prople
lofty depot
Lol
copper magnet
do i have to use a spark for the enchanted rune 704 crest that we get from story mode?
pseudo merlin
I used this mid pull
lofty depot
Yes
pseudo merlin
bad idea
lofty depot
But u save gilded rather than having to use it on said bracer
lofty depot
With shit stats, vs using it biggr item
stone ledge
I used this mid pull
Isn’t this a chest way of upgrading gear mid raid right?
Cheat-
lofty depot
Yes no upgrader outside of raid
rancid surge
potentially really dumb question: in raidbots how do I unselect the talents that I imported from simc? I want to only sim this m+ ec talent build but not the one that says "active". There doesn't seem to be a way to deselect it though?
lofty depot
Copy the talents from in game and change the line in the input that says talents=
normal pilot
you will always sim the current loadout, if you don't want it you'll need to repull a new loadout
pseudo merlin
It just tps you outside
yeah but the use text reads like its some goofy ass flavor item
i just wanted to see what it did
guess I go without HC dimmy kill this week
pseudo merlin
Isn’t this a chest way of upgrading gear mid raid right?
no
there is no upgrade npc
rancid surge
you will always sim the current loadout, if you don't want it you'll need to rep...
oof OK that's kind of annoying. Thanks!
normal pilot
just play m+ raid is dead anyways
pseudo merlin
you will always sim the current loadout, if you don't want it you'll need to rep...
This has been a thing forever. Do you know why? Is it somehow difficult to implement or something?
pseudo merlin
I've had probably a hundred+ instances where I had to explain this to someone by now
lofty depot
Why would u copy a build from the game that u don't want to sim
pseudo merlin
Take a step back for a second and think arctic
lofty depot
Select ur talent build in game, and copy it.
pseudo merlin
Like maybe you're simming current talents and then want to sim different talents after
lofty depot
Or do what I said and copy the talents and fix the line
pseudo merlin
plenty of things
loud kettle
Yea with gear you can unselect current gear, and itll only sim it with current profile
Would be nice if that extended to talents
lofty depot
The technology doesn't exist
loud kettle
Ya there is a workaround but its more work than pushing 1 button ya?
pseudo merlin
It's not a huge deal in the end
But maybe sometimes you're not even in game anymore etc
lucid olive
it would be nice if editing the simc output code and changing talent code in it didn't reset everything i had already selected
pseudo merlin
But the main problem is that people don't know this and then click only 1 talent page (ST V AOE)
And then go "wtf why my sim say this item is 600k upgrade
when the item is a 1k upgrade and 599k is the difference between ST and AOE talents
loud kettle
it would be nice if editing the simc output code and changing talent code in it ...
Ya or if i added gear via top gear search it didnt disappear
pseudo merlin
it would be nice if editing the simc output code and changing talent code in it ...
true
and real
lilac citrus
is vers also simming very high for some reason even in ec m+ build
lofty depot
Show
lucid olive
link sim instead
pseudo merlin
link
lucid olive
yeah why tf are you simming 10 targets
lilac citrus
its kinda the same on lower targets
lofty depot
Badass sim
lilac citrus
and longer fight
lucid olive
that sim is useless
pseudo merlin
Floodgate maxxing
ripe magnet
1st pull floodgate is BiS
stone ledge
Bros fighting 10 bosses at once
ripe magnet
we are actually good for 30seconds
lilac citrus
i should have disabled all buffs aswell though on this sim 😛
stone ledge
Yeah I’m always top or 2nd dps in my raid for about 45 seconds
stone ledge
Then ⬇️
lucid olive
Sim MDT
lucid olive
stone ledge
Then back up at 2m
3:30 on araz 😭
ripe magnet
just pug HC clear makes you feel good for a whole hour 😄
lucid olive
Alternatively you can use https://keystone.guru/ to create a route and export a SimC string for the route to put in footer
lofty depot
I was top at 330 for a few, and omfg
lucid olive
what happened to og one
its gone i think
I got a DM the link was dead
this only one I can find now
stone ledge
I had 1 pull when I crit all 4 surges and it felt like chewing 5 gum
lofty depot
"experience"
stone ledge
Ofc on the kill pull ill crit 0
lofty depot
Just got a bait some antenna orbs
tender elbow
Lads, with the state of boomie, is it time to protest? Stage a ‘walk-out’ by closing Dreamgrove boomie?
normal pilot
no you're addicted to the game, suck it up and keep playing
tender elbow
Adult and an addict, any more reasons? 😅
loud kettle
ah yes closing #balance because that would do literally anything positive for the spec
pseudo merlin
Brother
lofty depot
But we're gonna get buffed and feral gonna be down bad again
pseudo merlin
let me tell you a little story
normal pilot
ok the "official" droute method is to use keystone.guru
pseudo merlin
Before the ret discord drama, my M+ invite ratio over like 600 keys was 1 in 7
mighty mica
Lads, with the state of boomie, is it time to protest? Stage a ‘walk-out’ by clo...
sure, go ahead
be my guest
lucid olive
ok the "official" droute method is to use keystone.guru
yeah it did look alright
lilac citrus
if i use the mdt do i need to apply something in the patch work shit too ?
lucid olive
actually making the route kinda sucked tho
lucid olive
if i use the mdt do i need to apply something in the patch work shit too ?
no
1 target 5 min patchwerk
just paste the code into expert mode footer
lilac citrus
so just place route in footer and u good
lucid olive
well, the SimC code from the weakaura/website and not the import/export route from the actual MDT addon
easy mistake to make that
tender elbow
sure, go ahead
It was a question, not a suggestion nor an invitation. I’m just sad at how much cock we are receiving, unlubed.
normal pilot
apparently keystone.guru handles delays better
just overall going to be better result than mdt + WA
pseudo merlin
It was a question, not a suggestion nor an invitation. I’m just sad at how much ...
Blizzard also carves their own path
Unles the community is pointing out some kind of bugs, their balancing decisions are probably not affected by what we do