This season keeper in key I’d rather have an empty vault
#balance
digital berry
night gulch
This season keeper in key I’d rather have an empty vault
think of the prio damage though /s
lofty depot
U can play w.e. u want in 10s big dawg
strange edge
EC bugged, Keeper trash. Damned if we don't, damned if we do
lofty depot
think of the prio damage though /s
The funnel and stuff
digital berry
Balance has 0 prio
lofty depot
Nah, I'm prioing
lofty depot
No IM PRIO FOR LOOT
tiny ridge
Force of Nature
lofty depot
locked in
jaunty blaze
Can i be prio for loot
tiny ridge
we dont play Force of Nature
digital berry
( 3 ppl in raid got it in vault this week)
digital berry
( didn’t drop it tho )
iron chasm
I’m getting first mythic forge that drops 
lofty depot
Guy just looking up words on the talent tree?
vital hound
SOLAR BEAM
jaunty blaze
I get mine by Christmas
digital berry
We dropped a grand total of 0 so far
iron chasm
<a:nopers:1123020672034160730>
Erm buddy I actually get the biggest droptimizer increase in the guild
jaunty blaze
Ok you win
digital berry
I legit cannot outsim jug
vital hound
Erm buddy I actually get the biggest droptimizer increase in the guild
150% increase on 0 is still 0
jaunty blaze
Still rocking thwt mugzee trinket
digital berry
Outside of antenna
jaunty blaze
Ye same
iron chasm
150% increase on 0 is still 0
Take it back
digital berry
150% increase on 0 is still 0
Maybe you are doing 0 dmg
jaunty blaze
Its so cringe
digital berry
I’m blasting
vital hound
im fkn ownin
digital berry
Sure Jan
iron chasm
Sheep is owning
digital berry
Araz dead tonight ( best pull was 80%)
lofty depot
I legit cannot outsim jug
710 out Simms it
lofty depot
Share with me thanks
digital berry
I trolled on loom and got an 87
jaunty blaze
Share it NOW
digital berry
Rip
vital hound
i did arctic
lofty depot
O true
digital berry
Gate keeping strats is criminal
iron chasm
How did you manage a 99 on naaz
sonic crag
Without saying what it is, what's the opposite of what u need to do?
iron chasm
Ahahahahahah
lofty depot
Gate keeping strats is criminal
If only u knew his druids name
vital hound
its complex
digital berry
As IF I’m going to actually look into it
vital hound
iron chasm
Actual rats
lofty depot
And look at the Chad boss damage-er
lofty depot
: 💪💯💪
digital berry
Those who can’t overall, do boss dmg
vital hound
ratatouille
digital berry
royal zenith
there's no way
lofty depot
Shut up deux
royal zenith
the boss dies faster if you deal more boss damage in a shorter amount of time
that is CRAZY
lofty depot
Mother fuck
royal zenith
sonic crag
Finally someone spitting facts in here
digital berry
Don’t care blasting adds
vital hound
deux tryna put that philosophy into action for plexus prog
iron chasm
I’m a huge deal on loomithar heroic anyway
digital berry
That’s a low blow
digital berry
He does treat me like chopped liver
lofty depot
I’m a huge deal on loomithar heroic anyway
Lock in for loom'ithar mythic tho
royal zenith
youre not unique in that sense dw..
iron chasm
Lock in for loom'ithar mythic tho
Only a 97 
digital berry
All I ask for is some kindness
royal zenith
Also fyi Im on forgeweaver shep!!
royal zenith
Im the twitch chatter
round field
Also fyi Im on forgeweaver shep!!
Get out
vital hound
Everyone I know on araz
not me bozo
royal zenith
tier is not hard at all
vital hound
we're turbo wiping the clanker boss
royal zenith
you get to frac insanely easy
lofty depot
Why everyone on boss 4
iron chasm
I’ll kill it Monday very excited
How cool is going from bottom dps to top 3 on the damage amp
round field
Araz kinda chill
royal zenith
we got araz down to like 2.5% twice
but have to swap some cd's around for more boss dam
lofty depot
Or do the cool new strat
royal zenith
we get 3% damage this week right?
lofty depot
Ye
dapper wing
yes
round field
Y
royal zenith
Or do the cool new strat
not play a balance druid?
iron chasm
The hardest part of araz prog is your dragons using their knock back abilities
sonic crag
How many days u all raiding?
lofty depot
Double balance surely
digital berry
What are you playing deux
royal zenith
balance
vital hound
🕑
iron chasm
2 night gamers
royal zenith
YIPPEH
digital berry
Did you say last week that bringing balance to Araz prog is trolling ?
royal zenith
yeah it is
digital berry
round field
Could be worse
tiny ridge
im depressed
round field
Could be feral...
lofty depot
The hardest part of araz prog is your dragons using their knock back abilities
Dragons aren't used to pressing anything but disintegrate so ye
sonic crag
You also swapped from Warlock to Boomie?
digital berry
You also swapped from Warlock to Boomie?
Why would anyone do that
vital hound
Did you say last week that bringing balance to Araz prog is trolling ?
boomker op
for cc
sonic crag
Why would anyone do that
vital hound
vortex stinky
iron chasm
My one knock back and one ursols in the note is very valuable to my team
royal zenith
but Feral definitely better
lofty depot
DRs everyone'\ elses = goated kek
royal zenith
doesn't really matter for our level of prog anymore tho
vital hound
sonic crag
A bad feral vs a 95% balance, who wins?
royal zenith
every fight after this, balance is also a hard-troll class
iron chasm
Me sheep and Cavey are creating an oceanic superstar raid team
royal zenith
like being low damage on a council fight is insane
digital berry
Surely we will get a bug fix + buff by next reset
warm briar
Last time boomkin was good on a council fight we got the nerfbat from Narnia
lofty depot
every fight after this, balance is also a hard-troll class
after what?
royal zenith
yeah it's okay-ish
but dimensius, nexus king, soulhunters
I dunno
you bring zero value
it doesn't matter THAT much tho
sonic crag
Is it just bad tuning or mainly that we dont have any strength on those fights?
obsidian jetty
Both
also movement is a problem for our spec, and all 3 of those bosses are movement fuckers
warm briar
^
royal zenith
yeah that is also very true
sonic crag
Like Dimensius, you'd want to do dmg in p3 amp but then you're useless on 2nd p2 platform right?
obsidian jetty
ideally, our burst would make up for our poor movement as our dmg between CDs is low, but it doesn't
tiny ridge
is single button asssit worth
lofty depot
Like Dimensius, you'd want to do dmg in p3 amp but then you're useless on 2nd p2...
u have ca+convoke for playform 1
vital hound
and i think youll be able to time
royal zenith
it's like venthyr but x20 less damage
lofty depot
and then u just have other people use cds on platform 2
they had arcane mages use on platform 2
vital hound
itll be interesting to see how they adjust the boss
obsidian jetty
it's similar to venthyr from SL, you just carry the boomy to the spot you want his CDs, then he carries that window
vital hound
if they nerf ele
obsidian jetty
just we are worse burst than that venth iteration, and that shit isn't really needed
over other classes who just do good the whole time
royal zenith
I think they forgot about the part where you do zero damage in between cd's, and made the burst too lil
warm briar
I mean what would they have to meaningfully do to fix dmg?
royal zenith
you fall off so much after the 2nd convoke
warm briar
Like insane aura/tier buffs
obsidian jetty
Like insane aura/tier buffs
aura would just make us OP in AoE, buffing things like surge/wrath would affect surge/wrath on aoe "negatively." The easy option is buffing tierset again, but then our teirset would be OP which they clearly don't want.
lofty depot
it doesnt inc damage enough but its there :/
obsidian jetty
same shit as always
lofty depot
which is funny, cuz theres no next tier
so why do they care about the tier set
who gives a fuck
warm briar
They already said they weren’t doing anymore trinket tuning lmao. So might as well say F it and buff aura/tier
They can manually tune our aoe anyway if it gets nutty
obsidian jetty
@normal pilot would aura buff affect tier set as well? or does class aura exclude tier?
sonic crag
Doing tank damage for most of the fight after the opener and then just as your Dryad fades the boss dies and you're sitting there with 2 stacks feels so bad. Then again it was just a quick hc reclear but it happened on both Frac and Loom. Being rewarded for playing well in-between the burst should be more rewarded imo
lofty depot
whos doing tank damage most of hte fight 👀
obsidian jetty
some of the tier aren't
well like the 4p for example, I imagine it will not increase the pool surges
normal pilot
no those are your spells
lofty depot
the aura would affect the surge damage from drayd
normal pilot
no
obsidian jetty
nah, 2p is likely excluded
lofty depot
thats curious
obsidian jetty
it has almost no multi's to begin with
normal pilot
well. i guess depends on if they remember to adjust the pet aura as well
lofty depot
ye
normal pilot
roll the dice if the dev forgets that day or not
lucid olive
it would be so funny
lofty depot
remember the funny aura that gets used that double buffs our pets
lucid olive
if we cop an aura buff
sonic crag
Outside of burst window, I can see tanks doing similar on the logs
obsidian jetty
ig the 4p is adding to your surge tooltip, so it should get aura multi
normal pilot
ya pretty much
normal pilot
any talk outsdie of aura buff is prolly pointless anyways
royal zenith
aura buff would be definite conclusion of being clueless
normal pilot
idk how much time they would want to spend bespoke catering specific buffs
lucid olive
do you think they have any clue what theyre doing with the tier set
normal pilot
just slap on an aura and move on
lucid olive
theyre focused on midnight
royal zenith
I want to believe it
normal pilot
why don't you want an aura buff
that's the best thing to happen
only real content left is m+
quiet shuttle
stupid question but if i have no gathering moonlight stacks and i incarn, do i still FoE?:D
normal pilot
you want more aoe buffs
lofty depot
i want less aoe buffs
warm briar
i quoted the wrong msg fk
lofty depot
i want - aoe buffs
sonic crag
You're behind by x %, we'll buff you by x / 2
lofty depot
i need all the fotm m+ers to get yeeeted on to like mage or fdk
obsidian jetty
stupid question but if i have no gathering moonlight stacks and i incarn, do i s...
FoE get's CDR from every arcane cast, so you want to send it all the time yes
lofty depot
need to start the propaganda machine
sonic crag
What if they buff stellar flare and we end up playing orbital
warm briar
The annual FotM migration is always fun to watch
normal pilot
i guess technically aoe will get buffed if they fix the 4set bug
warm briar
I imagine ele and FDK at least eat nerfs
lofty depot
What if they buff stellar flare and we end up playing orbital
orbital isnt good cuz flare is good
normal pilot
idk how much but it's non-trivial
quiet shuttle
FoE get's CDR from every arcane cast, so you want to send it all the time yes
makes sense ye jst bit confused cuz like, i dont really have to play around the set right?
lofty depot
ec tier set, no
obsidian jetty
makes sense ye jst bit confused cuz like, i dont really have to play around the ...
Nope, the only time to think about it is if it's going to fall off at the start of a new pull and you're dotting still
you should press it rather than letting the buff drop
otherwise you pretend it doesn't exist
lofty depot
u can send some foes if the buff will end between like dotting. but foe has a long ass cd so ur getting like 1-2 buff uses in a pack
its ass
quiet shuttle
thank you 💯 makes more sense now
warm briar
Who doesn’t love seeing Starsurges get yeeted into mobs that aren’t the ones you’re fighting tho?
normal pilot
maybe you should just pull them don't be passive be aggressive
warm briar
I’m still shocked someone thought it would be bright to swap from warlock to boomkin. Talk about buyer’s remorse
sonic crag
I tried swapping away for multiple tiers but our Warlocks always went Mia so I had to swap back 2-4 weeks into the tier
warm briar
I mean warlocks have what 2 specs that were good in rwf? Or was that just destro?
sonic crag
Finally got 2 Warlocks so figured its time to go back and leave my mark on the raid
barren carbon
Is 60% dawn/duskthread uptime realistic in a prog setting?
obsidian jetty
Is 60% dawn/duskthread uptime realistic in a prog setting?
I would say 60 is low
loud kettle
I had 84% uptime on loomithar
normal pilot
anyone in game able look up how much int nexus king healing trinket gives you for mythic
lofty depot
yea but ur feral
barren carbon
I would say 60 is low
I ask bc I'm swapping between feral and balance this patch per fight, so swapping my writhing embellish to duskthread could be the move to save an embellish early
obsidian jetty
I generally sim with 80%, but I could see 75 being fair
loud kettle
just dont take dmg
barren carbon
Already crafted ascendance offhand bc I got mythic 1h in first vault
loud kettle
Thoughts
lofty depot
good thought
barren carbon
just dont take dmg
Kill boss don't die
old prairie
just dont take dmg
why doesn't my raid take this advice 🙁
warm briar
Didn’t they change vault to allow loot from bosses you haven’t killed like back in SL/DF or was I dreaming?
obsidian jetty
anyone in game able look up how much int nexus king healing trinket gives you fo...
barren carbon
why doesn't my raid take this advice 🙁
Bc they want healers to parse
lofty depot
Didn’t they change vault to allow loot from bosses you haven’t killed like back ...
yes but they changed this tier
normal pilot
fuck wtf is the syntax for custom buff i hate reading this stupid wiki
obsidian jetty
lofty depot
like if u kill soulbinder, its boss #3 u get loot from loom'ithar
same with what guilds are doing with fractilly
warm briar
Ah so I can’t get fractillus loot if I haven’t killed him?
barren carbon
like if u kill soulbinder, its boss #3 u get loot from loom'ithar
Yeah I killed soulbinder and wasn't in for loom and got antenna in vault
lofty depot
Ah so I can’t get fractillus loot if I haven’t killed him?
well if u kill nexus king yes
sonic crag
We got 6 antennas without killing Loomithar
old prairie
is fractilius before or after dh for vault ?
warm briar
After if you’re talking order
dapper wing
after dh for vault
obsidian jetty
dapper wing
So if you kill fractillus you can get the boots
lofty depot
is fractilius before or after dh for vault ?
after
warm briar
Yeah
lofty depot
So if you kill fractillus you can get the boots
in vault. u can yes
dapper wing
yah yah
real flax
so yall think boomie gonna get an aura buff? i just played an hc reclear and its fucking depressing
lofty depot
why is it depressing
dapper wing
We'll get something, don't know if it's an aura
barren carbon
so yall think boomie gonna get an aura buff? i just played an hc reclear and its...
Prayge
sonic crag
How much does the forge trinket decay over time? I'm stuck with the Ulduar TW trinket for now
real flax
why is it depressing
it just is
lofty depot
its like 1150 int every second
sonic crag
Ulduar 1 gives flat 25kish? int for 20 sec
earnest sage
how much mastery crit and haste do we want?
dapper wing
Living flame trinket is really strong
lofty depot
it just is
idk is fun seeing htis if u get good kill time
lofty depot
how much mastery crit and haste do we want?
what ever sim says
barren carbon
how much mastery crit and haste do we want?
Gonna want to sim your character. Defined values are bait
real flax
idk is fun seeing htis if u get good kill time
every boss blasted dont have enough time to do much
lofty depot
330 perfect time
barren carbon
^
obsidian jetty
There are breakpoints, but there are so many different breakpoints based on different stat numbers, the robot just does better
earnest sage
I did a sim, where do I see what stats I need?
lofty depot
lock in
barren carbon
I did a sim, where do I see what stats I need?
It'll just tell you what gear to equip and that takes stats into account
dapper wing
It's less stats needed, more what the robot tells you is the highest dps GAIN
sonic crag
idk is fun seeing htis if u get good kill time
I got 3:19 tonight
lofty depot
thats hawt
earnest sage
It'll just tell you what gear to equip and that takes stats into account
are we talking about quick sim or something else?
barren carbon
are we talking about quick sim or something else?
Top gear sim
sonic crag
thats hawt
No it ended up dead as my Dryad faded
barren carbon
Playing potent and control bc it's fun to press CDs more
barren carbon
Ya
fathom nebula
I play Potent because i simmed it and it said its marginally worse but that small amount of less CD is making the class more enjoyable for me so im going for it
lofty depot
if u do some fun no variance sims u can gain 4% depending on fight timer
fathom nebula
Hence why i asked how to sim with no variance 😄
barren carbon
I think gamz said something in his vid about bounteous bloom being kinda good too?
sonic crag
lofty depot
I think gamz said something in his vid about bounteous bloom being kinda good to...
not anymore
dont need it
fathom nebula
Gamz has videos?
lofty depot
yes
barren carbon
Gamz has videos?
Compendium has a link
sonic crag
Itsgamz on YT, like subscribe comment
barren carbon
Click that notification bell
sonic crag
Hoping to see some more Balance PoVs on later bosses
fathom nebula
Oh right, ffs, i watched his Gallywix pov 😅
warm briar
Can’t wait for boomkin to be S-tier in midnight with the return of pulsar/frenzy 
fathom nebula
Am i the only one who likes that we dont have pulsar
warm briar
It added some variety to the spec tbh.
But idk some people didn’t like playing around it
sonic crag
I dont mind not having it. But something new would be welcome
fathom nebula
Vision procs, take it or leave it 😄
normal pilot
hm +100k dps if you cheat with nexus king trinket precombat swap
i thought it would be more unlucky
sonic crag
Does the buff not get removed?
normal pilot
nope
safe egret
is there a specific talent to use for forgeweaver araz with 2set bonus?
i'm new to raiding and told it's best to use big cleave with single target but i only really see single target on the talent list. and i like using elune more than keeper but willing to do both
fathom nebula
CYGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALUmtmxYmBGzyYZmZAmhZZmtZmlxMzMzsYMGzMjNswAMAbbjFMNzsMAAAAYjZMAbGYA
Import this talent tree
if you cant, follow this
fathom nebula
hm +100k dps if you cheat with nexus king trinket precombat swap
The oath trinket, you keep the bound for the entire fight? 😮
tiny ridge
20 min here stuck
normal pilot
no you just pop 2x rg for the buff then swap it out on pull
so you buff your first CA
fathom nebula
100k is impressive for that then
normal pilot
i was hoping more, that's not even 2%
warm briar
Which means incoming nerf
tiny ridge
36 deaths on second boss 🙁
warm briar
Probably your group is too undergeared for an 8 key
tiny ridge
41 deaths 😄
sonic crag
Do they know the tactics?
warm briar
I’m going to go with no
tiny ridge
im giving up
lofty depot
crazy seeing a deplete 8
sonic crag
Easier to deplete below a 10/12 tbh
safe egret
CYGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALUmtmxYmBGzyYZmZAmhZZmtZmlxMzMzsYMGz...
thanks a bunch
warm meteor
is the proc for voidglass good? it doesnt even show much in details
tiny ridge
ye im so bad in this game i should give up
lofty depot
is uhh better than not having
sonic crag
Plenty of time to learn and improve, set some small goals for yourself and enjoy the ride
warm briar
is the proc for voidglass good? it doesnt even show much in details
Do you have the trinket too?
sonic crag
Not everyone is a rank 1 LFR parser like me
warm meteor
what about m craftured vs m void staff? is the difference from mastery worth it ( m+ only )
lofty depot
Do you have the trinket too?
trinket beans
normal pilot
it's end of the xpac nothing really matter just have fun and learn stuff
lofty depot
what about m craftured vs m void staff? is the difference from mastery worth it ...
uhhh u want dagger not staff
wind mason
class tuning where
warm meteor
uhhh u want dagger not staff
prob getting dagger way later or prob never so
potent cargo
every class/spec is fine max said so
sonic crag
Cant believe our Discord is even active
lofty depot
we here arent little pansys
warm meteor
i meant myth hast/high mast staff vs mythvoid staff?? one has more mast so more % but the other has the proc which is meh?
lofty depot
i know what u meant
the void staff isnt good because it has haste on it
and haste yucky
safe egret
i'm really liking chicken druid as my very first class. love the stars and dots
potent cargo
thats sick bro
glad u enjoy it
thats what matters most
dont let anyone tell you otherwise
tiny tendon
it's so weird saying haste yucky after how many years of haste mastery lmao
safe egret
anything else to try out levelling while i have downtime?
tiny tendon
a lot of balance players who sometimes play another class (me included) like shadow priest
the leveling part of shadow kinda sucks thoooo
potent cargo
anything else to try out levelling while i have downtime?
depends what you like about druid but warlock can be quite fun with a lot of different themes to it
tulip snow
I like being depressed and feeling hopeless
stone ledge
On araz our melee is shredding the adds on mythic, should I still follow the dot rules for a situation like that or just hit a sunfire+starfall then back to single
trail hinge
and haste yucky
i think its been atleast 2 hours but i just remembered
potent cargo
beat them to the shred brother
save cds and dump everything into them
details dps only thing that matters
tight dagger
idk is fun seeing htis if u get good kill time
u play 1,5min trinket ?
stone ledge
details dps only thing that matters
In that case we are trolling cause the amp is far greater than that haha
unreal hedge
maiden pasture
On araz our melee is shredding the adds on mythic, should I still follow the dot...
Yes follow the dot rules, the dot rules are like the adds have to live for more than 5 seconds for it to be worth
If they die quicker, you don't dot
potent cargo
ye depends how fast they die really
countless times raiding in my guild where even on prog smallies or general adds would get killed practically instantly and you just gotta make sad chicken noises and keep pressing surge
or swap to feral so you can join in on the pain train
tiny tendon
i'd die before swapping to feral tbh
safe egret
depends what you like about druid but warlock can be quite fun with a lot of dif...
i tried levelling warlock to try affliction for dots but evertything just exploded so not really done well with it
shadow priest i can try next, idk anything about what that does
tiny tendon
dot heavy spec that has a focus on ramping up the damage and extending how long their cooldowns last
playing shadow priest and hitting a big pack of enemies always fun to watch visually
the other two warlock specs are a bit better for leveling since you'll actually hit things
tiny ridge
one more failed 🙁
hearty frost
how many stacks is max on " Gathering moonlight " ?
misty glade
mighty mica
astral root
no idea what that means
wild dune
mighty mica
no idea what that means
1 target 5 minute for lazy sim, mythic dungeon tools route sim for more confidence, the compendium in the pins and channel description has a more in depth guide on how to do that, dungeon slice was never useable for balance so if you were using it, it was misinformation
craggy sonnet
this is for items that do not come with fixed stats
safe egret
i go back to the single target talents in the compendium for fractilus?
digital berry
Are there adds on fractious ?
pseudo merlin
where are those buffs though?
safe egret
Are there adds on fractious ?
i'm not sure yet, sorry
digital berry
I’ll look into it when I kill the two bosses before it
But I doubt he’s talking about mythic tbh
safe egret
yeah it's heroic
night gulch
no adds on mythic anyway
night gulch
its patchwerk
digital berry
will im progging mythic fracty sunday
You raiding 3 nights a week?
craggy sonnet
@obsidian jetty here you go https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3zB4Ub1oCS9Fq9kJMQzXzV
scenic mist
Damn a whole lotta work for 0.0% dmg increase
tiny ridge
so druid is about procs 🙁
pseudo merlin
feral dps and feral tank certainly are
craggy sonnet
well, was to show that its not a gain
digital berry
so druid is about procs 🙁
No like not at all
Any procs we have do not impact rotation
digital berry
How in the world
Google wago gathering moonlight
I can guarantee you will find one
Is it weapons incompetence or just incompetence
hearty frost
How in the world
found one, ty 😛 , couldent find one just typing " Gathering moonlight" on wago
tiny ridge
3 failed in a row
digital berry
Doing that huge ass pull in a 7 is so pointless
severe hollow
looks like healer was not happy about the tanks pull
digital berry
Damn the basic ui is ugly as fuck
normal pilot
get used to it now
eternal junco
Do any of you know the macro that allows to spell queue Warrior of Elune + Starfire after a Starfire? (if such a thing exists)
lost thorn
is m+ talents okay for salhadaar?
digital berry
Do any of you know the macro that allows to spell queue Warrior of Elune + Starf...
you dont need to spellqueue anything since woe is off gcd
/cast Warrior of Elune
/cast starfire
should work no
eternal junco
With no delay at all?
obsidian jetty
Do any of you know the macro that allows to spell queue Warrior of Elune + Starf...
if you spellqueue starfire, it will starfire only
you cannot queue up off GCD shit
in a macro atleast
#showtooltip [known:205636]Force of Nature; [known:202425]Warrior of Elune
/cast [@cursor, known:205636]Force of Nature
/cast [known:202425]Warrior of Elune
/cast [known:202425]Starfire
I use this on my scrollwheel bind
eternal junco
This is what I experience
digital berry
ofc if you press that macro button when you are inside a gcd it wont cast starfire
obsidian jetty
I just keep moving when I want to spam it, scroll wheel and it works fine
eternal junco
And I remember some shenanigans exist to do a perfect chain with no delay between spells
obsidian jetty
scroll wheel to help lower downtime because you need to be finished casting a previous spell to get the WoE off
can also starfall/surge before pressing as well, but not always the case
digital berry
i still dont have anyything bound to scroll wheel
eternal junco
This is the situation I want to avoid
I don't want to have to wait for after the cast
Cause you end up losing 0.2s for no reason
Within cds
- it's clunky
devout hazel
in mythic plus build are we holding fury of elune for gathering moonlight stacks from 4 set? or still just sending on cd
digital berry
then just woe in gcd and spam starfire after that
eternal junco
Yeah I guess that's a workaround, always do Woe after an instant cast
Still a bit clunky though
obsidian jetty
it's an off GCD spell, just how it is
same with your CDs
if you try to wrath CA wrath, same thing will happen
even Wrath CA surge
will just queue surge and not CA
eternal junco
Yeah
obsidian jetty
not a bug, just a feature 🙂
eternal junco
sad if there is no workaround
obsidian jetty
best you can do is cancelspellqueue probably and spam the fuck out of the button
but that is how you get carpeltunnel
digital berry
i dont get what your problem is
charred mortar
looking for some help on how to increase my dps for balanced druid - struggling right now. new to server, do you recommend any threads, etc?
digital berry
just press the macro and it casts woe and starfire
digital berry
looking for some help on how to increase my dps for balanced druid - struggling ...
recommend sending logs in here for help
obsidian jetty
recommend sending logs in here for help
if you press woe starfire in the spellqueue window, it will just hardcast starfire
digital berry
it doesnt for me
charred mortar
recommend sending logs in here for help
👍
obsidian jetty
eternal junco
I will try to mess around with cqs
tiny ridge
So we use starfire for aoe main spell
digital berry
tbh .2 seconds are... not gonna do much
obsidian jetty
I find that I end up with more downtime anytime I tried canceling spell queue for stuff like this, but I am also just old
digital berry
PROG TIME YAHOO
charred mortar
looking for help on increasing dps as balanced druid - relatively new and struggling: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/moon-guard/athalon?boss=3130
was using elune's chosen previously, and just switched to increase, but no luck
digital berry
you have strong misunderstandings on how the spec works
elunes chosen doesnt cast wrath
unless to enter lunar
read your hero talents
check compendium guide in pins
charred mortar
I haven't tried that - will check it out, thanks
tiny ridge
The class and the game are hard to play 🙁
warm briar
Not rly
digital berry
quit whining and go practice
@lofty depot can you even hit all 3 pylons with starfall on araz?
pseudo merlin
The class and the game are hard to play 🙁
As long as you're having fun just practise so you can get better. Definitely hit a target dummy to build up muscle memory before going into keys. Otherwise try the in game rotation helpers like assist and OBR.
tiny ridge
Im in big depression
pseudo merlin
moonkin in m+ is not hard to play once you get into it, but im sure when you're brand new it'l feel like a lot to take in
That's why you should just practise your rotation in a scenario where nothing else is happening like a dummy
craggy sonnet
i couldnt figure out where the aoe is big enough to hit all 3
uuuhm .. just in front of the middle thing towards the boss?
dry compass
gotta love it
dry compass
those are percentages not raw numbers
im 400k behind a 9 parser xd
but it's a wipe so the parses are cooked
is just funny meme
trim crag
anyone got a good weak aura for the tier set and when to press my buttons
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> can you even hit all 3 pylons with starfall on araz?
i can go look to make sure my starfall is hitting all 3
but it should be on the left or ight of the center orbn thing
digital berry
i am assigned the one towards door and id have to stand inside the middle to hit all 3
i need a visual indicator of where to stand
craggy sonnet
interesting that you are assigned
digital berry
also, do yall even bother doing anything to the small adds?
craggy sonnet
im just switching on whichever one is slacking
digital berry
like surely its a focus boss angle
dry compass
i can go look to make sure my starfall is hitting all 3
you can 100% hit all 3
digital berry
i need to know where to stand TEACH ME
dry compass
theres like 5 yards more range than you need to do so
digital berry
SHOW ME
lofty depot
dry compass
digital berry
oh ok
dry compass
right ont he circle marker
but be careful
the attendant will spawn there and melee you
digital berry
dot the echo and the 2 adds too?
dry compass
before your tank can taunt
tiny ridge
moonkin in m+ is not hard to play once you get into it, but im sure when you're ...
I think i should find a game that’s made for me idk
lofty depot
I think i should find a game that’s made for me idk
teletubbies online?
tiny ridge
teletubbies online?
?
digital berry
brother im very close to a block ngl
craggy sonnet
dot the echo and the 2 adds too?
i dot the echo
dry compass
i have echo dots carrying through from the phase
digital berry
padding
pseudo merlin
I think i should find a game that’s made for me idk
I mean if you're not having fun you're not having fun right
craggy sonnet
i perma starfall once 2nd echo is out
dry compass
I'm not bothing to dot attendants until the intermission ends
pseudo merlin
Definitely find something you enjoy
dry compass
yee
second echo does need to die it's just not priority
its not pad, it's efficient cleave
craggy sonnet
and it gives you a bit more dmg on the orbs
dry compass
we do such piss damage to the orbs lol
craggy sonnet
you are playing astral influence tho, yea emni?
dry compass
i try to sunfire them as they spawn but otherwise i pretend they dont exist
tiny ridge
Definitely find something you enjoy
I enjoy everything but after some time im burning
craggy sonnet
if i hae trees i press trees
tiny ridge
I can’t improve in any game :/
craggy sonnet
get some dream surges in
dry compass
I enjoy everything but after some time im burning
if you enjoy the game there's nothing wrong with playing it casually
pseudo merlin
Sounds like you're trying to push yourself beyond your means
Accept what you're capable of
dry compass
to be blunt there's thousands of people who suck ass at this game but nevertheless play it and have lots of fun
pseudo merlin
Or work harder
tiny ridge
if you enjoy the game there's nothing wrong with playing it casually
I don’t enjoy any games if i not try hard
pseudo merlin
Idk I'm not a self help guru
dry compass
just gotta escape the parse culture
wild blaze
so u are good at being useless
pseudo merlin
try playing ret paladin
^
digital berry
you are playing astral influence tho, yea emni?
erm what
craggy sonnet
5yrd range
digital berry
oh yeah yeah
craggy sonnet
extension
but yea you can stand anywhere close to the middle glow thingy
usually towards where the boss is running
digital berry
the left side doesnt reach one of them
sterile bloom
hey all, looking for some pointers for single target rotation. logs aren't the greatest in heroic and i feel like i'm holding incarn too long after the first 2 charges and then all my CD's get misaligned and then i never recover after. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/h7fR3vF48X92aCZd?fight=19
craggy sonnet
the side towards boss does work tho
tiny ridge
Looks like everyone understand the game here
pseudo merlin
Gamz pretending he knows the class, writing the compendium guide, but warming the bench in his guild
digital berry
like i was standing near green here and not hitting the blue pylon
dry compass
did you fail trig
craggy sonnet
yea ok .. the side where that diamond shape is works
potent cargo
<:tettleslul:541422589524836352>
can be one of the best players in the world and boomy just isn't good enough
unfortunate life but it is what it is aye
craggy sonnet
but yea, you can see it here that they are not equidistant
pseudo merlin
Nice glaze
craggy sonnet
so makes sense its only that side
pseudo merlin
can be one of the best players in the world and boomy just isn't good enough
literally me and my ret in my current guild
potent cargo
Nice glaze
idek who he is
pseudo merlin
potent cargo
in game
lucid olive
Gamz pretending he knows the class, writing the compendium guide, but warming th...
what the
potent cargo
but ye me and gore know the pain
vital hound
i have 723 polearm now
pseudo merlin
i have 723 polearm now
I bet that thing will go hard as fuck against heroic dimensius
and weekly no leavers
potent cargo
do no prog
come in and farm r1 parses with fresh hands
and make 20m gold in the process
potent cargo
play a payphone spec and farm boss damage parses so you dont need to try
assa rogue or bm hunter with hekili 100% uptime 100% 99 parse chance
pseudo merlin
ggez
lofty depot
i think its been atleast 2 hours but i just remembered
sorry, i got busy for a few hours.... but i saw someone sent u pictures of a bunch of stuff i figured it was good
warm briar
I could have 3 strokes, a heart attack, go blind and lose both my arms and could probably parse 100s as BM
lofty depot
hey all, looking for some pointers for single target rotation. logs aren't the g...
ur damage is gonna look mad until u get better gear
u should dot before using cds
trail hinge
sorry, i got busy for a few hours.... but i saw someone sent u pictures of a bun...
yea pics no words, no idea what he was trying to teach
lofty depot
a lot of new players do this. They send all their asp in chunks and have no asp if thye need to move
trail hinge
right
digital berry
look at boss dmg parses
idk why you are so hung up on balance not being able to do a lot of burst dmg
as if that was ever our thing
potent cargo
it was once upon a time 
dry compass
its not burst tho
digital berry
its as burst as it getrs
dry compass
theres as much spread cleave on this boss as there is aoe burst
digital berry
by the time you dot all the adds they die
potent cargo
dogshit warlock doesn't make it to paragon add for shield break, guess me and @glossy jungle have to press incarn rf and truck it down ourselves
Fuck I miss shadowlands take me back
dry compass
between echos and collectors there's more than enough spread cleave on this that we shouldnt be THIS bad
lofty depot
yea pics no words, no idea what he was trying to teach
send log i look
dry compass
manifestations are like 30% of the total dam
digital berry
you cannot compare echo and collector dmg to the burst on the 4 million little adds
lofty depot
oh u died for like 30 seconds
charred mortar
do you all like keeper vs elune, or is it more of a play style thing
lofty depot
so yea u send all ur asp at end of eclipse
then dont haev anything to move
i assume u got a mechanic at one point and didnt wildcharge
so u need to learn to use it
lofty depot
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/82347054
damn ur not fast enough to save a dreamstate
digital berry
idk as a wise man once said, if you dont like doing shit dmg reroll.
lofty depot
digital berry
we are getting buffs ( 
)
lofty depot
i end up not using any here
smh sunfireeeeeeeeee
idk seemsl ike ur having to move a lot
im afk
trail hinge
you know i was stuck on the oorb soaks now thati think of it
i did it 3-4 times
smh where are my hunters
lofty depot
i meannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn i wil soak an orb when i ahve a wildcharge
lofty depot
the puddles?
trail hinge
cleanse mech
lofty depot
not sending foe and woe with incarn
dots in incarn
u can starfall all intermission
idk if that was just a brain blast or
like wasted dreamstates here aswell
no foe with incarn
yea like all ur incarns outside of hte first 2
dotn have foe with them
its just like m+ u should be using it with incanr
craggy sonnet
b-b-but why tho
lofty depot
digital berry
for araz when do you actually star the ramp
is there a way to time it so you get all 4 surges during amp?
craggy sonnet
<:grr:1176829059158786059>
EXPLAIN IT SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY
craggy sonnet
is there a way to time it so you get all 4 surges during amp?
yes
but i was messing it up now that i got forge today..
digital berry
why would forge mess it up for ya
craggy sonnet
basically you want to CA late in the intermission ~sub 20% on all collectors
digital berry
HUH
craggy sonnet
the thing im messing up is popping forge before the first CAs dryad runs out
digital berry
isnt that way too much time?
craggy sonnet
you have 15s on the dryad buff
digital berry
oh so you just pop ca
craggy sonnet
you can also do it a bit later
digital berry
ohh and you wouldnt want to use the ca macro with forge for that ca
craggy sonnet
you just continue to do starfall
and then once they are done
you dot the boss and wrath spend with starfall
then pop CA like 1s before amp starts
do something for 2 globals
digital berry
amp is like 14 seconds or smth no
digital berry
so even if you pop ca right as amp starts you will get the 2 dryads in there
digital berry
oh no because you delay trees
craggy sonnet
well, yes .. but you have to hit the boss before amp is over
not finish the cast
thats why I CA slightly before
charred mortar
do you all have any screen shots of your action bars for elune's?
craggy sonnet
if you have AP you can also starfall instead of wrath
to dump
since convoke is gonna cap you otherwise
i think this should be the best type of sequence for araz
and you can do it for both amps if you play potent
digital berry
i think i fucked it up
craggy sonnet
happens
lofty depot
EXPLAIN IT SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY
lofty depot
- foe increase my damage when out
- boundless moonlight do big dam at the end of foe (so while in incarn its double big dam surely)
sundered is ugly and useless
craggy sonnet
but you have it
lofty depot
yea unforch
craggy sonnet
and it does the thing
but yea
in theory i think its fine to not have foe before pressing incarn but it should come up with at least 8s to spare to make big boom with boundless moonlight
you ideally do not want to spend the gcd inside
but if it works out to give you dreamstate stacks
i think its better
big feely tho
charred mortar
for quicksim, should I use the potential dps reult as a marker?
lofty depot
the fuck that mean
digital berry
for quicksim, should I use the potential dps reult as a marker?
no
gleaming mortar
Elune for forgeweaver?
digital berry
fights are not patchwerk
gleaming mortar
So only elune fight would be hunters then?
honest rapids
Not patchwork? Than what do we use ?
lofty depot
uh
craggy sonnet
the fuck that mean
it means that if you are getting fresh out of eclipse and your FoE is still like 10s on cd, you prolly should incarn and then FoE inside incarn
dry compass
and the kill
lofty depot
it means that if you are getting fresh out of eclipse and your FoE is still like...
i will be holding incarn for 10 seconds is what that means
craggy sonnet
and then you dont get dreamstate?
lofty depot
ur right, im holding for 15 seconds
lofty depot
no... cuz u likely need like 3 casts to make it get ot cd... so im holding it for liek 5 seconds
and I DONT GIVE A FUCK FUCK EC IS CRINGE
dry compass
S-tier sandbaggers btw
digital berry
after the second 2 set of ca on araz
when do we send the last cds?
did i do the whole setup right here?
dont midn the panic standing around
craggy sonnet
no... cuz u likely need like 3 casts to make it get ot cd... so im holding it fo...
you also have to get into eclipse .. it is more than 10s probably and you lose cdr
craggy sonnet
when do we send the last cds?
if you play potent, then you can do the exact same for the 2nd amp
otherwise you hold and send just single CA with 2nd amp and then you get one more a bit afterwards
craggy sonnet
did i do the whole setup right here?
yea, except you also did forget to use forge to increase the first dryads cap
and ofc the wiggling around part 😄
and idk when you CA'd but you could milk a bit more dmg on the collectors
but its all kinda tight
craggy sonnet
you want to forge right before your dryad runs out
since your int is snapshot at that moment to determine the cap
digital berry
( I died to a swirly right before second intermission )
craggy sonnet
how many tries are you guys in?
digital berry
idk sub 20?
digital berry
no ok 25
lofty depot
did i do the whole setup right here?
did u cd at 2m?
lofty depot
u only had 1 ca up
digital berry
to get dougble ca on both intermisisons
yeah i cad before to get 4 surges into amp
craggy sonnet
u only had 1 ca up
CA already running when the clip starts
lofty depot
oh sorry didnt see the first part cuz i wasnt full screen
craggy sonnet
would have been crazy if you killed araz faster than loomi
digital berry
yeah my ui is a mess atm
digital berry
what is
lofty depot
ur dots on alt 1
potent cargo
wdf
digital berry
ngl this tier set is the most fun balance has been since SL
craggy sonnet
now imagine if it was remotely as good as on ptr
digital berry
ok that would be like.. insanely broken
and not fun
cause now we gotta do all these cringe shit to push cap
covert coyote
ngl this tier set is the most fun balance has been since SL
yea it feels kindof like a mini ravenous ramp
covert coyote
it doesn't feel like blizzard intended for us to play around shooting 2 starsurges in the precise 2 gcds