balance

[lofty depot]

Like when ur only eating protein and protein and ur body like, but I want some carbs, I want some fat

[primal lagoon]

Although - still can’t replace my Jastor’s Diamond, so I guess it’s still top notch.

[lofty depot]

And u continue to eat protein and not get bigger

[primal lagoon]

Fair enough.

[clear yoke]

My raidbots have been telling me to use a lot of versatility and crit. Is there a plausible reason? Shouldn't I use mastery and haste?

[junior thicket]

farts gotta smell nasty

[primal lagoon]

Bread makes you fat, and Vers feels like bread. But I hear you.

[round field]

Vers crit good for keeper

[lofty depot]

Because ur tier set wants u to Crit more and ur not gaining anything from having more casts

[round field]

Haste not very good for keeper

[primal lagoon]

Haste is only good for my soul. I hate slow casting.

[round field]

Haste good for ec

[lofty depot]

No vers is the protein powder

[iron chasm]

I mean it is the final season of the expac remember

[junior thicket]

is there a info sheet somewhere where it shows, to which extend its not worth having more of that stat? like a cap

[iron chasm]

No but raid bots will do the thinking for you

[junior thicket]

yea idk why i even asked kinda dumb lol

[iron chasm]

[clear yoke]

Wait, what you're telling me is that crit helps me activate the 4-piece bonus from my tier set?

[iron chasm]

For ec haste is better
For Kotg crit/vers means your dryad empowered surges do more damage

[lofty depot]

Imagine if ur 20m buffed surge crit more

Haste doesn't help u get to the cap of ur surge buff

The cap is too small and we get to it very easily

Soooo u don't need haste to cast more spells when I reach the cap without it

[clear yoke]

I understand.
Now I'm calculating for EC, it gives me better items that have mastery and haste, but it also has a ring of versatility and haste, and I have these items and talents:

[night gulch]

EC still wants haste mastery, its a different stat prio than keeper

[stone ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-muscles-ripped-strong-rage-gif-16595995

[clear yoke]

Yes, and that's my question, because raidbots is recommending me so much versatility and critical in exchange for a lot of mastery and haste... I asked on their discord if there was any change in the secondary stat limits, because I remember being around 28% of the cap with 23k mastery in season 2, and now with 26k I'm at 22%

[exotic perch]

just listen to the robot

dont think about stats

[mighty mica]

dont worry about caps

[stone ledge]

focus on your gameplay not the loot

uptime > gear

[round field]

Theres no mastery cap

Dont think about it

[clear yoke]

I'm just trying to maximize play time hehe

[clear yoke]

In this case, it wouldn't be a limit, it would be the point where it starts to be "inefficient" by losing part of its status.

[round field]

Yeah diminishing returns are a thing

[clear yoke]

I saw a post on wowhead that talked about this since Shadowlands, if I'm not mistaken

[night gulch]

im not sure what you're confused about

[round field]

But its not something you think about

[night gulch]

ec wants haste mastery

keeper does not

[round field]

Raidbots has it all taken into account

Requires no thinking on the players part

[severe hollow]

but that is not what you are talking about in your example

diminishing returns of stats are when the stats gain less value (dont know the exact numbers off hand but that is the frequently talked about 30% haste/30% crit(35 in sheet)/30% vers and what ever mastery

but that has no gearing decision impact what so ever

when your sim "wants" more of a stat just massivly depends on your current gear, what items you have access to etc

[clear yoke]

To give a better example, in the calculation I did for EC, I was given, as shown in the image I sent above, that I would gain 0.3% if I used a ring of versatility and haste (Signet of Collapsing Stars), but I would replace it with one of a lot of mastery and haste (Logic Gate: Omega) or one of a lot of mastery and haste (Signet of the False Accuser), would this type of change be right, given that mastery is mandatory for the Balance Druid?

[severe hollow]

robots calculate better

[lofty depot]

Mastery isn't mandatory for balance druid

[stiff maple]

Just put on the clothes the robot tells you to.

[lofty depot]

Every stat has its use, and 0.3% in an m+ setting is quite literally mothing

[clear yoke]

really? O.o am I living wrong then? What would be the mandatory secondary status for the EC?

[tawdry trellis]

Anyone having an issue with flight form fixing up?

[severe hollow]

there are no mandatory secondary, or primary

[lofty depot]

U misplaced ur want of certain stats and then being "mandatory"

[round field]

Well primary stat is pretty mandatory...

[mighty mica]

that's the point we've been trying to make, stop worry about your stats

[round field]

Do not equip agi weapon

[severe hollow]

dont tell me what to do

[round field]

Me when i do key with agility best in slots...

[exotic perch]

i healed a 12 with my best in slots on agi

[tawdry trellis]

back to the more important question anyone having an issue with flight form? My y axis is twisting upward. Doesn't happen on regular mount just flight form

[exotic perch]

i went oom a few times lol

[round field]

I had s resto sham go oom 2nd pull floodgate

And we wiped

I was so confused

[rain river]

jesus i went to look at compendium for 2s, why it still like this, where was the option to turn it back again?

[severe hollow]

looks perfect

[craggy sonnet]

somewhere at the bottom

i think

[round field]

I see nothing wrong

[mighty mica]

its the same place you enabled it

[rain river]

yeah i had enabled it months back

but i found it thx bro

just had a laugh when i opened it

forgot this was there

[digital berry]

do we hve gamz pov for kills?

or oi

or anybody

HELP

[clear yoke]

Thank you very much for the tips. I'll study more so I don't have so many questions. I'm new to Balance... My equipment is this: https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/area-52/Trued

I usually only change the Ara-Kara Sacbrood trinket for Lily of the Eternal Weave.

[warm meteor]

Does anyone know how to make my plater profile have a colour on the nameplates when moonfire isn't applied?

[lofty depot]

well u should sim different stat stuff

and u should sim 4 colors gems

[jolly hemlock]

whats the reason behind foe before incarn?

[maiden pasture]

there are better globals to spnd in incarn, the foe damage will scale up once u press incarn so you lose very little to hit it just before incarn

[jolly hemlock]

makes sense, ty

[lofty depot]

it also buffs all ur damage inside incarn

[shrewd moss]

hrm, neck or trinket here? it's basically margin of error in QE live. https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/aatdscqrewon

er wait, wrong channel, im resto >.>

[vital hound]

wrong channel

[shrewd moss]

sorry about that

[vital hound]

👍

[round field]

Apology declined

[royal zenith]

apology accepted

[round field]

No one asked you dunce

[cedar nest]

My vault options for myth track were azziccaran (eco trinket), signet and tier shoulders. The signet sims the highest but I feel like the long game plan would be to take shoulders and use hero track trinkets until dinars are available. Any suggestions?

[round field]

Dinars aint out for months lilbro

[cedar nest]

The extremely long game plan

[round field]

Sounds like a bad plan but sure

[trail hinge]

id take the passive trinket

[craggy sonnet]

parapodia is not good for raid

good for m+ tho

kinda depends how likely you are gonna get araz forge from raid

[cedar nest]

I generally only push m+. I pug heroic raid but prob won’t touch mythic unless the first couple bosses become puggable by end of season

[round field]

First 2 are already puggable

[craggy sonnet]

oh

for m+ parapodia is very good

[lofty depot]

liike 4-6 weeks big dawg

[round field]

Thats months

[maiden pasture]

taking vaults with dinars in mind on ur main is psycho shit for sure

could do it for piss random alts that ur gonna boost on is chill ig

[lofty depot]

we dont have that many dinars this season

[cedar nest]

You can buy trinkets with dinars. You can’t buy tier. I didn’t think it was that crazy a question lmao

[pulsar trout]

hey guys i see a lot of dudes using grove inspiration over potent enchantments, any have a reason for that?

[daring whale]

hey do you guys have any weakauras for m+, i always forget to put down vortex or do it 2 fast, for mobs in halls of atoment and gambit

to remind when they are about to flee or something

[round field]

Tier is the easiest gear to get in the season

Youll have extra catalyst charges

Any mythic piece you can just catalyze

Doesnt go for trinkets

[lofty depot]

it depends on fight time

[pulsar trout]

use tharital one, i think i cant link it

[daring whale]

okej thanks will try

does it show fleeing mobs health or smth

[gentle patio]

Where is our after-rwf 5% buff?

[lofty depot]

gas said they took too long, so this friday prob

[pulsar trout]

mmm i dont think so, maybe a plater script would be better for that, there is one for halls mobs, not for gambit

[pulsar trout]

ty for the reply, gonna sim it in expected kill time for us, hope next dreamgrove update teach us to recognize the diference

[astral forum]

of all the tier set slots available - is there an optimal 2 slots i.e head & legs etc or does it not matter?

[maiden pasture]

how many do we get

[maiden pasture]

dont worry about shit like this, sim ur guy

[pulsar trout]

depends on if you wanna minmax for keeper or elune chosen, for keeper i think is head chest gloves pants, for elune is head shoulder chest gloves, but better wait for expert or regular response

[pseudo merlin]

No you just need to sim your char

Since everyones gear is going to vary, which offpiece gets you most value is also going to vary

And then that might change over time

You could look at the theoretical highest simming combination of gear pieces and pick from that, but that might not be a gain with your current gear/until you obtain every piece of gear on that list

[lofty depot]

3 still i think

[maiden pasture]

voidglass antenna and forge, perfect

[lofty depot]

uhhhh its all within like 30s

but the difference in the timer can be 4% diffyt

but u can look at the differnece in talents with the planner

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/planner

like if the fights ends at 330. u can play potent. hold ur cds til u get ur 2nd charge of ca back at 3m and get a 2 2

but without potent u need the fight to last 340

so then if the fight lasts say 4m

potent isnt gaining a use so grove is better

then that applies to a 5m fight aswell

if a fight ends at 5m potent is better

if it can extend to 515/520

grove is better

[maiden pasture]

potent perfect for fracty

[pulsar trout]

ty Arctic, i understand it better now

[lofty depot]

ye

[maiden pasture]

hows ur tier going so far arctic

[lofty depot]

uhh

[craggy sonnet]

cringe cdr

yuck

[lofty depot]

its fine, its the same things we wipe to cuz people dumb

and assignment boss kills my braincells

[maiden pasture]

im happy i wasnt in on araz

that shit looks 0 fun

[craggy sonnet]

are you raiding today arctic?

[maiden pasture]

i got to prog fracty, ill prog nexus king this week and then ill be on the bench for dimmy

[lofty depot]

mon/tues/wed

is fine tho

[craggy sonnet]

so thats a yes

[native egret]

ugly

[pseudo merlin]

wrong form

[craggy sonnet]

is mug actually simming best for you?

or do you just not have dawnbreaker crystal or whatever

[lofty depot]

ye

uhh iw as gonna go farm dawnbreaker

but its like 0.2% better

i cba

[craggy sonnet]

if you reclear first few myth today, you gotta tell me if i have to play potent or not with the 3% dmg increase n all

[lofty depot]

if it was an on use i needed i would

but random proc, i cba

[craggy sonnet]

fair

[lofty depot]

and dinar in 4-6 weeks

means everyone buy antenna

i hold til we kill that week and snipe ez trinket

[native egret]

m0 stack priest mage

[lofty depot]

my priest doesnt play the game

[craggy sonnet]

are dinars coming in .5 or .7?

i thought .7

so thats way out still, no?

[lofty depot]

both wrong

11.2.5

[craggy sonnet]

ok

[trail hinge]

thats what i was thinking too

everyones guy buy forge/antenna

so if i dont ez money

[tender elbow]

Prayage for me bois, trinket or weapon 🙏🏻

We shall see in 6h

[fading stone]

Is there a perferred off tier piece this season?

[lofty depot]

shoulders

[fading stone]

Gotcha, thank you!

[exotic perch]

what do you sim tho

i sim exactly 5m

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/q5g9PCCc6TmK8egBJLzRiv

[lofty depot]

feral spit

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tRLXr1Ems1TGYzFRhKFcBQ

but likeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee i could be higher than u

[civic osprey]

@lofty depot

[lofty depot]

what frog

[civic osprey]

look at guild

[exotic perch]

ofc the chicken cheats

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/X4E7.gif

[lofty depot]

smh

[lofty depot]

?

[vital hound]

grow up

[exotic perch]

that says 720 not 420 sheep

[long ice]

astral antenna still s tier after nerf?

[lofty depot]

yep

[vital hound]

weapon crafters are COWARDS

reject the craft mafia

[exotic perch]

true just loot the myth wep

[long ice]

tyvm

[lofty depot]

hm

[vital hound]

[cloud plover]

wtf 710

[lofty depot]

yea what a waster

[cloud plover]

I wasted too it's ok

[lofty depot]

smh

[cloud plover]

can't wait to have crests again so I can uppies trinket

[vital hound]

its a shame it sucks

[cloud plover]

yeah how could they do this to me

[gentle scaffold]

rest of vault is shit, sim says priory trink. Thoughts?

[frigid rover]

adding miss chance to heroic antenna in sim so i feel good about my dawnbreaker myth crystal

[cloud plover]

is there a spoonfed balance druid yet

what's a high ilvl

[lofty depot]

pumps is a boomkin yea?

[exotic perch]

well do you have a ritual forge

[exotic perch]

[cloud plover]

oh that's not bad at all

[round field]

Thats a bear otp...

[gentle scaffold]

nope\

[cloud plover]

I'm like 710 flat rn but pumps is na so he might have already sent upgrades

[glossy jungle]

he is yeah

[gentle scaffold]

704 parapodia, 701 sacbrood, 701 priory currently. I am casual D:

[potent cargo]

surely you're not going to be a boomkin for much longer bro

its been like 2 xpacs of boomy being bad

[exotic perch]

boomy is a great spot wdym

[lucid olive]

yeah I found the best looking branch in Dornogal to sit on in bird form

[potent cargo]

too early for bait

[lucid olive]

really good spot

[exotic perch]

the bench can be extremely relaxing

[normal pilot]

i can't wait for bench xmogs coming with midnight

[exotic perch]

get time to do other things

[lucid olive]

I just realized I probably won't be able to fly in my neighborhood

that's racist towards druids

[glossy jungle]

already made the decision

[lucid olive]

what if I just want a little birdhouse

[nova ocean]

Wats up with ec on mythic soulbinder? The adds get deleted in my raid dunno how ur supposed to pad on that shit

[lucid olive]

tell your raid to spec full single target

those are your adds

[frank mantle]

are the sims updated to account for the nerfs/buffs witht the trinkets today

[lucid olive]

Soulbinder is such a great boss honestly

I saw people on reddit say that Balance is really good at killing adds so Soulbinder is their best fight

[glossy jungle]

twitter too

[fiery kindle]

have the talents changed?

[lucid olive]

I got successfully baited to respond..

Yes

but also no

[drifting nova]

[lofty depot]

if u change ur simc version to latest yes

[fossil shard]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-me-not-moving-raccoon-standing-up-gif-17639976

[frank mantle]

okay thank you

[lucid olive]

No important talents have changed, there's only small changes in the irrelevant talents that don't do much

Soul of the Forest, Crashing Star, Umbral Inspiration, Touch the Cosmos, Hail of Stars

pick whichever you vibe with

[cloud plover]

these sound so cool

[fiery kindle]

What do you recommend? I want to play Force of Nature...

[vital hound]

at this point g is just doing splits then getting a free CE mount every season

[delicate perch]

great news then

[vital hound]

honestly helper

[frank mantle]

choices choices

[fiery kindle]

astral is so good

[nova ocean]

They also say we are good on soul hunters

[midnight bough]

does doing the weekly locked world quest thing in the new zone give rep?

[exotic perch]

It should

[stone ocean]

Trinket sims ?

[exotic perch]

Another week or so and you are you pretty much done with rep

[cloud plover]

Trinket sims!!!

[cloud plover]

how. I'm still under rep 10

[misty glade]

Then you've been ignoring it :X

[lucid olive]

I barely do any rep stuff and I'm 12

if you're under 10 idk do some world quests

[misty glade]

Don't forget that you can do the follower dungeon weekly thing for a free 1500 rep

takes 8 minutes max

[cloud plover]

I did like 6 wq this week for the spark quest

and that's as far as my interaction with it went

[lucid olive]

do em all

buy a contract

[cloud plover]

I bought a contract week 1

then did 0 wq

[lofty depot]

-10K GOLD

[harsh jungle]

is there any new rings from delves?

[cloud plover]

Was like 4.7

yeah

lmao

[exotic perch]

damn im at 17

yall gotta do your rep

dungeon weekly, bountifuls each give like 1500

you get like 1000 from the ecological thing weekly

[potent cargo]

ye alright ill come back

[exotic perch]

warrants and the phase diving thing

[potent cargo]

and i can be token bench boomy

[cloud plover]

I still haven't finished the quest chain cuz it's so freaking annoying

and don't get me started on warrants I picked the quest up and then had no idea how to continue, it said something about a key and I cba'd

[craggy sonnet]

so we are wondering how everyone else is so high up but just refuse to do any of the relevant things

makessense

[cloud plover]

you didn't quite grasp the essence of it

but you were close

[craggy sonnet]

no i did. just not sure why you are bragging about being lazy

[cloud plover]

I'm just lazy with rep. too many other things to do like keying to do the boring stuff

[lucid olive]

wrong channel

[fickle nymph]

hah

[exotic perch]

but yea you take wep man

if you dont have a myth one

[crystal mortar]

Should I use CA while I'm still in the previous CA for set bonus?

[lofty depot]

with 2 seconds left on trees

read the compendium

[crystal mortar]

Yeah I was just confirming. Thanks

[solemn jolt]

is jastors bugged in sims or is it just that good

[midnight bough]

how do i see my new zone rep? sry dumb question

[stone ocean]

Jastors got thrown out of my sims by HOA ring and Ring from forge

[solemn jolt]

at 710?

[stone ocean]

My jastors was 671

It’s like a 40 ilvl increase

[pseudo merlin]

jastors is good but its bugged in the raid where it doesnt work for some

and it does for others

so like you either gamble on the highroll or you replace it with probably anything

[solemn jolt]

interesting

[cloud plover]

jastors is just that good. if it works, its a 90% uptime of up to 2000? or so extra stats, you can make the maths on where that lands ilvl wise. so it competes with rings a lot higher

[lucid olive]

focus on "if it works"

[pseudo merlin]

yeah that's the gamba

[digital berry]

do yall prefer ec or kotg on soulbinder

[solemn jolt]

keeper

adds die too fast

[dry compass]

bench spec tbh

let a class that does damage in the raid xd

[digital berry]

2 1 2 1 or 2 1 1 2

[formal marsh]

I'm our only druid so they cant bench me

[dry compass]

unlucky

or lucky

depends on your view

[digital berry]

idk perhaps some people enjoy playing the spec they chose

[tiny ridge]

we play with this 2 trinkets in keys?

[craggy sonnet]

2-1-1-2 gives you pot on the double

[craggy sonnet]

yea, they good

[tiny ridge]

in raid same?

[pure acorn]

is there a page somewhere with all the moonkin unlockable forms

[potent cargo]

go to sleep bro

[lofty depot]

its week 2 u can play w.e. u want in keys

raid, sim it and play whats better

[green brook]

Any recommendations on a stand alone weak aura to track Dryad, Starsurge charges, and the Moonlight that people would endorse?

[lucid olive]

https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet

[warped plover]

we did it! balance the last in raid overall

[tepid skiff]

Full M First Boss Belt or a 701 Belt with a Proc for Crit or Versatility?

[dapper wing]

sim it

[craggy sonnet]

M belt is gonna be better tho

but sim it

[sudden pawn]

@lofty depot

damn..............

🥶

[lofty depot]

what boss

oh private

[digital berry]

cringe

[sudden pawn]

mythic frac....

[lucid olive]

how far behind rank 1 feral are you

[plush obsidian]

im noticing if i convoke by my target i use bear/cat skills? im assuming we dont want to be on top of our target?

new to kotg

[lucid olive]

those spells would be resto spells if you're out of melee range

[plush obsidian]

oh

[heady hedge]

you still streaming, gamer?

[lucid olive]

overall it doesn't matter

ranged = more regrowths = more blooming infusion procs

melee = more feral spells = a little dam

[plush obsidian]

got it, makes sense. ty!

[lucid olive]

theres no real difference end of the day

np

[sudden pawn]

1 mil lol

[sudden pawn]

i dont stream

[heady hedge]

rip :c

[digital berry]

how do you double ca on dimensius on pull its so cursed

[leaden birch]

i'm not there on mythic yet so

can't help you

[digital berry]

heroic is the same tho

[leaden birch]

oh

[digital berry]

the knockback happens like at the worst time

[leaden birch]

i pool asp and do a wild charge over to the knock spot

sunfire needs to be reapplied

and i can send 1 surge

so i send those 2 during wc

thats how i do my opener on heroic

[wintry umbra]

is soul hunters full aoe with maintained dots? ec or kotg?

[leaden birch]

EC

[errant flint]

chickens when do we replace se2 belt?

[leaden birch]

like 723 ilvl or some shit

[errant flint]

mythic then lol

awwww

[hollow mountain]

anyone know why dimensius ring is simming so much higher than an a rank trinket?

[lofty depot]

what does a rank trinket mean

[hollow mountain]

one thats recommended on dreamgrove; same ilv

[lofty depot]

we recommend rings?

[lucid olive]

assume he means rank trinket as in the the trinket stinks

oh nvm

A rank like A tier

[lofty depot]

but he said ring

[lucid olive]

yeah probably some dimmy trinket that looks like a ring idk

[lofty depot]

so i assumed he was talking about taking 1 or the other in his vault

[hollow mountain]

the dimensius ring is simming higher for me than a good trinket when i have delve trinkets lol

[delicate perch]

perhaps link the sim instead of just yapping

you're clearly quite confused on how sims work

[dense steeple]

if you have dookie gear

slightly less dookie gear will sim good

[lofty depot]

well idk why it matters that a ring is simming more than trinkets

[viral cliff]

love how I upgrade champ track sacbrood to hero track

[muted sleet]

Would you guys upgrade araz and antenna to 6/6 hero or would you keep them at 4

feel like would be worth

idk when im getting those Mythic

[drifting plank]

how to deal dmg on mythic naazindhri?

tried just using everything on cd or waiting to use it when adds spawn

but they die so fucking fast

[quiet drift]

If youre raiding w a guild just beg for crest save trinkets

[wintry umbra]

any recomendations on how to read logs to understand what you did wrong, doing pretty solid on st fights high blues to purple parses (plexus/loomithar) but as soon as any ad in raid is involved my parse is cratering low greens to grey im guessing i should be generally getting higher dps due to padding but most of the ads just die to quick to feel like i can get more than a couple starfire and starfalls off let alone anything in lunar, even soul hunters feels like i have to just be doing something wrong or am just missing something critical

[dense steeple]

i didnt even notice damage on that boss til the last 45 seconds

[digital berry]

in heroic and normal at this point youre not really supposed to even bother with adds

they just die so fast

[hollow mountain]

because the ring is just defensive vs a better trinket; oh well

[dense steeple]

3PC myth track tier already lets go

[muted sleet]

Yea but since i get heroi version doubt i have mythic prio

[digital berry]

damn hyuge

[wintry umbra]

i get it, still just feels wrong to go from high blues and purples to low greens and greys (as in like im missing something critical)

[dense steeple]

CAN GET GLOVES TO 5/6 THIS WEEK

caps lock

[wintry umbra]

the week prior i could go off of that i hadnt gotten 4pc and my lou 2pc was not mythic tier just doesnt feel like its made any dent on the non outright st fights

[final spire]

What's our best fight style for simming M+ since we can't choose it specifically?

[digital berry]

91% of ppl playing ec on soulbinder

dg suggesting i play kotg

HMMMM

[dense steeple]

dg is washed hmmm

[viral cliff]

feels like I could juice more in M+ on surges

[lofty depot]

post a log, then i can look at it and show u whats wrong

[neon bane]

Haven’t hopped on today but I will have my 4 set. How’s everyone finding 4 set vs 2 set? Decent damage difference?

[lofty depot]

dont be cringe

[snow elm]

what counts as single target dmg for natures vigil

does moonfire starfire

and does the splash for lunar strike count?

[lofty depot]

starfall does 🙂

[snow elm]

starfall?

how is that single target XD

[lofty depot]

yep

cuz its not aoe

it hits all the targets in the circle

individually

🧠

[snow elm]

do you mean starfire

[lofty depot]

no

is starfire a circle

[kind wind]

Killed soulbinder tonight and kotg is the way. Even on the add phases everything is dead in like 8 seconds. EC feels like I got omega baited this week by top parses haha

[wintry umbra]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mVGW6hNAzg1LdD4Q mines thsaedoran im sure im doing a bunch wrong in general lol just dont really know what to look for in the logs to get a better idea

[lofty depot]

ur dotting the orbs too much for heroic

[craggy sonnet]

the critical thing you are missing is that you are trying to do dmg to the adds and go out of your way wasting gcds dotting / starfalling

[lofty depot]

canceling a lot

[craggy sonnet]

i could have told you that before looking at log

[lofty depot]

this is a hell of an out of eclipse moment

[wintry umbra]

yeah im well aware of this one

[lofty depot]

whats the over under u miss timed this surge for dryad favor

[wintry umbra]

id take the bet i missed it

[lofty depot]

🙂

[wintry umbra]

which fight was this?

[lofty depot]

loom

ur tank troplling araz

hmm

[digital berry]

i mean i did 6.2 mill dps on ec

[lofty depot]

sending surge outside of eclipse

[digital berry]

literally 0 effort

[lofty depot]

araz ur sendign cds during intermission

u should be holding it for amp

[lofty depot]

ec = everybody's cringe

[digital berry]

why should i sit there sweating about kotg timings

to do less dmg

if i can just press 3 buttons on cd

[lofty depot]

i think goign cleave talents on soulbinder in heroic is bait

unless u have 20 people afk

[digital berry]

aint nobody talking about heroic

dafuq

[wintry umbra]

lol how so

[lofty depot]

standing echo and araz together

[lofty depot]

this guy is

chill out elitest

[wintry umbra]

ah yeah had a couple of messy ones with that

[wintry umbra]

thought you ment i was trolling the tank and had somehow left the tree taunt on

[fluid parrot]

hi guys how i sim balance?

[lofty depot]

tree taunt doesnt work on bosses iirc

[lofty depot]

faq compendium

[wintry umbra]

seems like, work on canceling casts (well aware of this movement has been my bane since legion), making sure im in a eclipse when surging, and better understanding of the 4pc (litterally got 4pc today like right before raid so hadnt had much chance to smack a dummy with it to see how the 4pc acts)

[trail hinge]

my guild is killing bosses very fast, what does that mean for my cd's?

[exotic perch]

that means better parses

[potent cargo]

lol

[lofty depot]

yea, getting used to the movement and pooling is part of the minmax

[heady hedge]

do i wait for a balance buff or do i reroll

[potent cargo]

boss die fast more time spent in cds = more damage

[lofty depot]

412 = very fast

hm

[potent cargo]

4:!2 seems slow though if I had to make an assumption having never done the boss

[trail hinge]

lmao we did have 3 dps dead

[wintry umbra]

id assume on soul hunters the eclipse part is the same with starfall?

[potent cargo]

I would assume first boss heroic dies in 2 mins

[trail hinge]

thats fair

[potent cargo]

unless some forced downtime

[lofty depot]

its 30 seconds slower than what we did last week

[digital berry]

oh my abd

[lofty depot]

not as much

starfall is dynamic

[wintry umbra]

ty for the advice ill try to make use of it, when looking at the cast timeline how are you telling a surge is outside of eclipse btw?

[lofty depot]

intuition

[wintry umbra]

looking at the starfire/wraths beforehand more or less?

[lofty depot]

lol eclipse is 15 seconds, and ur only casting starfire to get into eclipse

sooooooo im just tracking the time and when ur casting

if u have spells between ur starfires that means u were casting outside of eclipse

[errant flint]

Theres a M soulbinder aoe vs cleave/st ish...how do i determine which talent (ec/kotg) is best for the fight

[wintry umbra]

ah i see what you mean, looking at the replay looks like i was dodging something should i use a dot or something else to fill that movement rather than surge

[wintry umbra]

for this one

[lofty depot]

depensd if u lost some time somewhere else so it didnt line up idk

but yea, sending surge is the worst

[wintry umbra]

with that is there any preference to which dot to use for out of eclipse movement idk if sunfire or moonfire have a higher upfront hit

[lofty depot]

doesnt really matter, u dont want to really make a habbit of it

[wintry umbra]

even for stuff like loomithar big circle

[dapper wing]

Save astral instead of hitting moonfires

if you know your gonna have to move, save enough astral for a starsurge or two

[lofty depot]

wildcharge and throw some surges

it didnt feel that bad to me

[wintry umbra]

though that requires me to not play like your pfp lol instead of lizard its lazor

[dapper wing]

Nah full lizard

thinking is for losers

https://tenor.com/view/elio-lizard-button-gif-10528652411096742370

[wintry umbra]

yeah thats an area i know i suck at i rarely use wildcharge the backwards jump just fucks with my mind for planning positioning

[dapper wing]

It's giga useful for things LIKE loomithar

Make a habit of using everything at your disposal

[leaden birch]

is the saladbar healer trinket a thing

or nah

[dapper wing]

Don't be cringe

[leaden birch]

hey man, someone in here mentioned it

[wintry umbra]

this is how i imagine any dracthyr character using the one button rotation looks like

[dapper wing]

Does evoker one button empower their spells for them or is it always rank 1?

[wintry umbra]

last i tried it it was the oposite would always do full charge

but that was end of lou before i swapped back to druid

[wintry umbra]

and i mean scalecommander st you never go beyond rank 1

[craggy sonnet]

its getting there

[loud kettle]

perfection

[craggy sonnet]

its behind atenna by like .5% right now in my sim with flawed usage

[dapper wing]

living at same ilvl, atleast how it sims for me

araz 2 upgrade lvls higher is better (For me)

Sim it for your character tho

[gloomy nexus]

I got the choice between Soleahs or a Mythic Head in the vault. I just play M+ what would you take?

[wanton vapor]

myth lilie, still no 4 Set but have two cathalyst charges left? what would u take

[dapper wing]

Take pieces that aren't farmable. And if your not raiding mythic you should most likely always take myth track items

[jaunty blaze]

gg

[dapper wing]

But Sim yourself

[jaunty blaze]

why even open it

😭

[dapper wing]

Nice socket angle

lol

[leaden birch]

Isnt logic gate still good?

[winter spear]

is antenna still bis after the nerfs?

[jaunty blaze]

its the only option here

[leaden birch]

Its highest simming ring for me atm

[jaunty blaze]

but its from first boss so rather have something good

[leaden birch]

Tru

[gloomy nexus]

Sry Soleahs is also Mythic Track.

[digital berry]

thats one depressing vault

gg

reroll

[dapper wing]

Myth track soleah's is good

And it's not infinitely farmable so it's pretty good

Sim yourself tho

find out what's best for your character

[tender elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1285767650814853131/1410116184438865920/image.png?ex=68afd889&is=68ae8709&hm=720bd9e833c636b3fae8008c75b3d09c8953d75ea5d901eca895063307516f00&

hmm

[dapper wing]

plexushammer ain't bad

nice

[tender elbow]

i think i might goi for trinket, since its been buffed, but doing sims now

still rocking 684 one 🙂

[craggy sonnet]

logic gate pretty good

but yea, depends how many peeps in your raid want it

[dapper wing]

The lash?

[tender elbow]

y

[dapper wing]

Is lash even good compared to a main hander?

I upgraded my heroic one to a mythic version and it was like a 110k dps gain

[tender elbow]

I'm prior on fractilus dagger

[dapper wing]

ah

[digital berry]

araz lowkey fun

even on balance

[dapper wing]

Yeah I got a few pulls in yesterday

was fun just playing st

[digital berry]

well its not really st

theres a lil bit of starfalling

[dapper wing]

I mean... It's pretty much just st

[digital berry]

Nuh uh

I’m starfalling echoes and intermission

[craggy sonnet]

so basically the entire fight? 🙂

[dapper wing]

Intermission yah

[digital berry]

Kindling too

[dapper wing]

But echos? I feel like you do jack shit with starfall

[digital berry]

Not st

[dapper wing]

I could 100% be wrong here

[digital berry]

It’s dps neutral to starfall on 2 targets with kindling afaik

[craggy sonnet]

you dont do a lot on echoes

[dapper wing]

Yeah I know it's neutral but you killing them fast enough

damn

[craggy sonnet]

but yea, its basically neutral and you get a bit more starfall dmg on orbs

[digital berry]

You’re also hitting a couple of the little adds here and there

[dapper wing]

I feel like if I'm not st'ing we don't hit the damage check

[digital berry]

Oh wel yeah that depends on the group

[dapper wing]

Let me pad

[craggy sonnet]

uhhhm, our echo did survive the intermission sometimes

[dapper wing]

The second one does

the first one shouldn't

[craggy sonnet]

so not dying fast enough

[digital berry]

For a fourth boss it is a messy fight ngl

[craggy sonnet]

yea first one is prio

[dapper wing]

Araz and Fractilus should of swapped spots

[craggy sonnet]

i think emni is also talking about 2nd echo

[digital berry]

Nah I’m falling everything

And not holding on pull

Tho it is annoying having to enter lunar on pull to get enough asp to start the double ca

[tender elbow]

On ST, Antenna is +100k and Lash is +30k. Am I I missing something? Wasn’t it buffed?

[digital berry]

Antenna is very very good

[dapper wing]

Antenna was barely touched

and lash was ASSSS

[digital berry]

The nerf is meaningless

[dapper wing]

Gigggggaaaaaa assssss

Antenna got hit by like what 3% crit per application?

[digital berry]

Yeah it’s nothing

[dapper wing]

Which is nothing when it was the best st passive by far

[tender elbow]

Great..

[craggy sonnet]

ehhh, you should have enough asp to enter immediately if you 2x wrath -> starfire -> mf -> sf -> ca -> surge -> wrath -> trees -> surge -> convoke

thats what i did atleast

[dapper wing]

^

[tender elbow]

Is lash at least good in aoe

[dapper wing]

I've not seen it a single time

It's probably still ass compared to just stat sticks

Good active + passive stat increase is almost always better

[digital berry]

I just don’t want to wrath as the second gcd , tbh it doesn’t really matter but delaying by 3 casts isn’t losing me anything

[craggy sonnet]

fair enough

but starfiring is awful as well

[digital berry]

Yeah

I might just call it and do surge + wrath

[craggy sonnet]

you could also just do surge trees surge (not sure if you have asp for 2nd surge but can just convoke immediately anyways)

and then do the 2nd CA a bit earlier

might be better actually

[harsh jungle]

What flask do we use for raid?

[dapper wing]

alchemical chaos

for all content

[harsh jungle]

Alright

[leaden birch]

kotg cleave feels so weird now

i dunno why

i just no likey

[jaunty blaze]

Because it barely does anything

[leaden birch]

maybe thats it

[jaunty blaze]

The spec is just awkward to react to cleave

Need to shift eclipse but most of the time adds dont live long enough

[viral cliff]

28m surge in M+ is just nutty man

[smoky remnant]

i need feedback

hands is big upgrade cause i have low 1/6 hero track hands on tier

but hands can drop from first boss

and shoulders from trio dh, its shoulders 100% no?

[dapper wing]

It's always mythic slot > Heroic slot (Unless heroic slot is like giga bis)

[leaden birch]

i'd prob go shoulders too ngl

[smoky remnant]

i mean i have hero on both shoulders and hands but hands didnt drop from 10s so i can save crests

[leaden birch]

you'll eventually get the hero hands

can just sim which is better right now and in the long run, but it seems like something marginal

[fast finch]

How I can convince my RL to let me reroll?

[leaden birch]

wdym

[dapper wing]

Uh

Do they need Mark

If yes... gg you can't

If no, then just show damage logs overall

and impress on a geared alt

[leaden birch]

are saladbar logs kinda wack because the platforms are so far away?

whoever isn't on the same platform as the person logging, their log is going to be skewed right

[lofty depot]

need 2 people to log it

or be on the loggers platform

[regal solar]

Hi can i have a little feedback here? idk if should i pick the tier helm or the non tier helm and catalyst it

[loud kettle]

Correct

[mental tiger]

Is lily bis outside of the raid? I got it myth in vault

[lofty depot]

is the tier helm hero track?

if so just save the cata charge and grind out a 3/6 to upgrade it fro free

[regal solar]

oh ok ty

yeah is hero

[lofty depot]

and then go farm some 10s so u can get myth vaults

[regal solar]

yeah ty ill try to full it this week

[mental tiger]

gah, setgloves myth or lily myth or even giga myth(wasnt it buffed today?)

[lofty depot]

sim it myth prob

[mental tiger]

Yea problem is my stats and other trinket will change alot

So its more if its generally good

1,2% better then any other trinket on 710

and ill prolly get myth track gloves soon again anyway

and no trinkets

so i guess there's my answer

[cedar basalt]

I think I have to pick Lily over the helm that would give me 4-Set right? I'm not a raider

[mental tiger]

yes use catalyst on a hero track helm u get anywhere else ofc

the helm is not even myth

[cedar basalt]

yeah you are right, trinket also sims better but I'm not always trusting the sims because for example the antenna is one that sims way better than it actually is

[mental tiger]

cant rly see what could go wrong with mastery evert 1,5 min

every

[minor shard]

morning all hope u got luck with vault
for m+ content (idk why i cant sim) which trinket combo is better (assuming are all same ilvl)

[dapper wing]

tbh, probaly antenna + Parapodia

[minor shard]

yup was wondering the same, but when i try to simulate it show me I need to select 2 items when i selected like 5 idk seems to be bugged

[fickle crown]

Parsed 98 on H Fractillus, still came in 11th on dps.. Yeah, feels great man.

[tardy hare]

looking forward killing this today

[lyric thicket]

Just play better you have 2 parse better

🥰

[fickle crown]

and still be in 11th place 😂

[lyric thicket]

If you are 11th with 98 be Happy to have good mate

[fickle crown]

I was til they benched me for Dimensius.

[pliant swallow]

on heroic

benched ?

[fickle crown]

yeah dude... tell me about it.

[delicate perch]

lol

@vital hound

[smoky remnant]

gang what is our off piece this season on kotg?

[delicate perch]

shoulders stinky

(sim tho)

[lyric thicket]

Il the only drood in my guild and on each dimensus kill I got troll by blizzard and Die in p2 because I got only fly form bind xx

Clown pov here

If there is a weak aura for this xD

[stone tiger]

Astral Antenna on hero track for m+, yes or no? (I don't raid mythic, so best I can do in vault)

[somber path]

meanwhile my entire guild is druids

[upper anvil]

I mean what's your other options besides hero antenna

[fickle crown]

we were 30 deep rolling into dimensius. Then RL wanted to put in the "pump squad" to get the quick kill. Trimming to 20 and leaving me out to dry.

[stone tiger]

basically just myth track anub'ikkaj

[vital hound]

what bit am i reading

wait benched for heroic

[stone tiger]

M+ is my main focus, but don't really know how it does there, so just looking for input

[upper anvil]

Should sim as always

See what Sims says

[stone tiger]

sim actually says hero track hands, kek

[upper anvil]

Do you have tier set

[stone tiger]

4pc already yes, all hero, myth head

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sZwFjpAokXzbLSUd6Rkkwd

[upper anvil]

Idk about taking hands. I do think it's one of the trinkets

[cedar pumice]

0.1% upgrade this week from vault, hoooraaay

[upper anvil]

Man its just like s2. Where we ran mugs eith house of cards

Lily with antenna is exactly just like last season

[warm ridge]

As a M+ andy I'm so confused
Why did it have to be those 2 in the same vault

[upper anvil]

The joy of simming

[open harbor]

wtf

[stone tiger]

Antenna got nerfed? But it's still S tier?

[upper anvil]

Now that's a easy vault lmao

[loud kettle]

The nerf was very small

[upper anvil]

Its still lots of crit

[open harbor]

yeah ez Edict

[upper anvil]

Antenna is last season's jug

[cedar pumice]

Elune 4p bonus single target is useless, right?

[upper anvil]

Its nice damage increase if you can proc the boost just like in aoe packs lol

But my rng with the procs is depressing

[stone tiger]

I can always just catalyse some hands. astral antenna it is, I guess

[fathom nebula]

Fuuuck, why is Araz so much better than Lily?? 😭

[tiny tendon]

"Not Locked In"

i disagree

[formal marsh]

What sim time is the APL optimized for?

[tiny tendon]

turns out dunking 32k intellect into a 4 second convoke + the tail end's double starsurge is pretty good

plus it just pumps the aoe really hard too, been opening floodgates with threat pulls sometimes

[livid jay]

guys

where buffs

[tiny tendon]

spellbook -> druid tab

[livid jay]

you are a real jokester huh

[tiny tendon]

sometimes

[iron chasm]

5% starsurge buff on Friday get excited

[livid jay]

you were already coping yesterday 🙁

[fickle crown]

Just give us the same juice the ret palys got.

[fathom nebula]

Its got to be Lily, the shoulder i would have to catalyze and the ring is heavy haste/mastery

[cedar pumice]

what`s your charr name

[tiny tendon]

see discord name

area 52

[livid jay]

u dont really want cata shoulders anyways

how much is hc lily simming for you?

i got socket in vault today 🙂

[patent girder]

What options do we have for crafts besides waist and wrist if we have myth wep?

[delicate perch]

belt

[patent girder]

That's waist

[delicate perch]

o right

offslot of tier

why not waist though

[patent girder]

It's already crafted 😄

[delicate perch]

then wrists gg

offslot of tier not terrible if you don't have access to mythic raid

[pliant swallow]

[patent girder]

Myth wrist is the only viable choice from vault. Other than wrist I got main state hase ring and main stat haste neck

[pliant swallow]

why does archon show EC as raid spec atm ?

[delicate perch]

archon

[pliant swallow]

i mean i use it as a point of reference.

its just wild

[livid jay]

loool

must be skewed by mythic araz and council

[lofty depot]

@sudden pawn LOCK IN

23 IS OLD

[livid jay]

not locked in...

[lofty depot]

oh its locked in bud

[sudden pawn]

[jade flume]

Parsing on lfr loomithar smh my h

[livid jay]

show add damage

did u guys go hc main reclear into mythic?

[fathom nebula]

Im refusing to believe that Mythic 723 Lilys is worse than Normal Araz 😭

[pallid bay]

reset + 3% raid buff + spoonfed..

[delicate perch]

classic NA players smh my head

[livid jay]

must be depressing for NA players to have all 100's and watch em turn into 97's next day

[delicate perch]

I turn my 25s into 9s so..

[livid jay]

ok at least u didnt pad full boss dam

can see u tried

[lofty depot]

NOW IM SPOONFED

[barren cove]

i've seen ur tank streaming

[delicate perch]

[barren cove]

the pally

[lofty depot]

im streaming too

[delicate perch]

@vital hound hate watching time

mt

[lofty depot]

lol

[delicate perch]

[barren cove]

i open stream

no feral

i close stream

[tight dagger]

Would you take this belt and upgrade to 723 for 0,3% ?

[delicate perch]

what are the other choices

[tight dagger]

socket

[delicate perch]

because 60 crests for 13k is insanely shit

[tight dagger]

dont want boots, dont want offhand, dont want ring,

[tiny tendon]

oh that's ass

[fathom nebula]

How the fuck is this even possiiiible, its a normal Araz simmed against a 723 Mythic Lily 😭
I dont wanna believe in this, robot is being bad to my feelz 🙁

[livid jay]

whats your current belt? I got that belt as a drop from raid and it was a much higher increase for me than it is for you now

[delicate perch]

better on use innit

[tight dagger]

S2 belt

[loud kettle]

because forge is very good

[tiny tendon]

32k intellect that slowly decays vs 9k mastery

[lofty depot]

the int on it

[livid jay]

socket it is

[lofty depot]

is good

[delicate perch]

imagine being sad you have a forge

[tiny tendon]

when you're a front loaded burst spec

is pretty goooood

[tight dagger]

for real, the dps out of CDs is shit, so you dont need INT all the fight xD

[livid jay]

that is very weird

[quiet drift]

Our 4pc has a jank interaction w Forge

[prime peak]

overclocked plexhammer myth sims better than voidglass kris in hero, should i pick it or sim doesnt show real value of voidglass?

[livid jay]

ye we do tank damage outside cds

[quiet drift]

aka the dmg cap scales with Int

[fathom nebula]

Guys, youre coming at me with logic and shit, i dont need that right now.

[loud kettle]

Even if you go feral the forge would win

[tiny tendon]

i've been using forge in bear fuck it

ball

[unkempt axle]

any tips for a new boomy to get out of green parses ? ❤️

[pallid bay]

its quite simple

lily is 1.5m

the APL is made with a 2min trinket in mind

[fathom nebula]

I want lily cause its 1.5m

[vital hound]

then take it

[delicate perch]

take it then

[pallid bay]

then pick it 🫡

[vital hound]

who's stopping ya

[delicate perch]

me

[tiny tendon]

lily's solid for elune's chosen anyway since you aren't restricted to convoke's 2 mins

[tight dagger]

dont pick it, HC Aratz out dps the Mythic lillet insane

[delicate perch]

[tight dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/conscience-evil-good-angel-devil-gif-2142009395042087672

[fathom nebula]

THe thing inside my head is telling me to catalyze the shitty mythic shoulders
The thing inside my chest wants the 1.5m trinket

I want the return of feelcrafting

[vital hound]

then feelycraft

[delicate perch]

tier shoulders stinky

[vital hound]

wtf are you doing here

[livid jay]

take socket bozo

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/q3dV.gif

[tiny tendon]

name / drop logs

[fathom nebula]

I decided to catalyze the stupid shoulders 🙁
Expectations always lead to disappointments.
Didnt get our 10% aura buff this week, 2m trinket is too broken 🙁

[jaunty blaze]

Impatience

[past smelt]

no raid myth for me sooooooooooooooooooooo

[stone ledge]

Podia go next

[unkempt axle]

i have send it in a dm :c

[past smelt]

ofc! 🙂

[tiny tendon]

oh my bad sorry

[obsidian jetty]

lily is only 15s duration

so it doesn't hit all 4 surges

[dim yew]

Is myth soleahs any good

Raid wise

[obsidian jetty]

there could be a world where it's worth delaying the trinket so it does line with both, but changing trinket apl is a motherfucker

[obsidian jetty]

if it sims good for you, tis good for you

if not, tis not

depends alot on your stats

[dim yew]

Sims shows it doesnt no

[obsidian jetty]

sometimes crit buff is good, vers, mast

[obsidian jetty]

but for me it often simmed neutral or worse than 684 jug

[rare shoal]

Do the lads here do key log reviews

[obsidian jetty]

sometimes ppl pick through them yea if you link here

[rare shoal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nZDxhczbLAtJgyMP?fight=last

Neaters, this is from a +8 I just did, just looking to see if there are any major mistakes I am making

[mental tiger]

Why do ppl wanna rank boomie so low in m+ meta. Seems to me that they are pumping

[merry turtle]

https://gyazo.com/a8eb502fa1ee983fd4883f48e9f10420 Halp

[rare shoal]

I probably should be playing elunes in keys

[obsidian jetty]

one thing to notice right away, generally it shouldn't take this many GCDs to dot all the mobs as keeper

[rare shoal]

But my overall feels similarily low as both

[obsidian jetty]

you should be able to dot that first pull in like 5 or 6 GCDs

[quiet drift]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/45?metric=dps

1 boomkin

[obsidian jetty]

you can sunfire that first pack, but then you should be putting some moonfires out while they are getting stacked, sunfire once stacked, then slam CDs

[mental tiger]

Oh i missed to say for m+

[obsidian jetty]

with keeper not everything needs to be moonfired before pressing treants

but you should still do it while a pull is being stacked up

should be aiming to use only 1 or 2 sunfires on a whole pack unless they are very spread out for no reason

[rare shoal]

Noted

[mental tiger]

No ididnt miss to say that

[rare shoal]

It might just be me but 8 still feels a bit too low

Everything still falls over insanely fast

[obsidian jetty]

idk, just looking through the pulls, you're getting full CDs off

[rare shoal]

Hm

[obsidian jetty]

I'm sure stuff is dying fast in a 8 tho

but I wouldn't say it's insta dying

[rare shoal]

Im prolly just shit then

[obsidian jetty]

you do this often

where you just tree, waste some uptime, then incarn

without 4p you should be trying to sync these up better

and with 4p you'd want to delay treants alittle into incarn

[rare shoal]

I see

[obsidian jetty]

2 GCDs in so it lines up with the 2 surges at the end

but you seem to still only have 2p, can't see your gear

[livid jay]

holy shit keeper 4set in keys must be so depressing

[obsidian jetty]

nah it's chill

I like it alot more

[rare shoal]

Have i been griefing myself by waiting until incarn ends to spend 4pc

[livid jay]

do these two amped surges even make a difference in overall

i cant imagine its a lot in funnel

"funnel" wrong word

[rare shoal]

It feels a lot less strong than i was told it was

[obsidian jetty]

I nuke the ST mobs often yea. On bosses too

[livid jay]

i guess its nice for bosses ye

[obsidian jetty]

yea if you have 4p, you're griefing

[rare shoal]

Oops

[obsidian jetty]

I figured you didn't by looking at your play lmao

[tiny tendon]

big time griefing unless you're chaining the CA cooldowns

[rare shoal]

I should look at a guide but i retain better by ye old scientific method

[obsidian jetty]

this was my overall for ara 13

[livid jay]

gonna try keeper in a couple weekly 10's this week

[tiny tendon]

the single CA ones you still get full benefits from solar and lunar eclipses which will be maxed out in buff power

[livid jay]

is boss damage much better compared to ec?

[tiny tendon]

bonus points if it crits in there too

[obsidian jetty]

I've been rocking this, it's very chill

[jaunty blaze]

I mean i can see it being good in arakara

[obsidian jetty]

forsure gives you bad habbits tho when you go to raid only pooling 50ap for 2 surges 💀

[jaunty blaze]

Lots of mobs to funnel into prio targets

[obsidian jetty]

it's not really funnel at all, you hit cap doing ST rotation

[livid jay]

lul

[obsidian jetty]

it's just prio dam

[rare shoal]

Oh i was unaware it had a cap

[tiny tendon]

keeper with incarn is fucking cursed man i already slip up between EC and keeper in raid if I've been hard spamming dungeons for the day

[obsidian jetty]

10x your int

[rare shoal]

Makes sense

[tiny tendon]

bring back 25x

[livid jay]

[rare shoal]

Thats actually not much

Lol

Now that i think about it

[jaunty blaze]

dw they revert it x25 this week

[livid jay]

bring back 50x hp or whatever it was

[jaunty blaze]

Trust

[obsidian jetty]

it was 50% of your hp, then 50x int (actually 25x because they probably left the /2 in from HP) then 6x, then 10x 🙁

[rare shoal]

My st feels pretty shit in keys and its probably just me

[livid jay]

i mean