I need that
#balance
lofty depot
urban crescent
are stat enchants just simming better now for everyone else aswell
jaunty blaze
yes
urban crescent
radiant power and depths are both kinda mid for me
ok
i dont understand that but i trust the robot
lofty depot
Our tier does funny thing
tender elbow
bruh 💀
tender elbow
naa they are popping to kill pillars
urban crescent
yea i remember this actually i think i used trees since i had a bit on ca but didnt realize the fight was nearly over, will keep that in mind next time ty
tender elbow
@lofty depot they destoryed pillars
urban crescent
u mean not casting wrath after presing my 2nd ca?
craggy sonnet
yea, i just spent my 2 dryad stacks on autoattacks while waiting for araz amp
love that feature
lofty depot
Why u standing on boss big dawg
urban crescent
autoattacks..?
lofty depot
Big DPS gain to /startattack
craggy sonnet
because im standing near there to dot all collectors
lofty depot
Until they make the buff get used with auto attacks
craggy sonnet
in intermission
lofty depot
Which is just insane bug they haven't fixed
urban crescent
what the fuck
lofty depot
And I submit it every week since I did the cat dummy test
urban crescent
you can use the damage bonus on auto attacks?
lofty depot
Well it gets "used"
urban crescent
LMAO
lofty depot
That doesn't mean it does anything
urban crescent
what the fuck is this spec
junior thicket
so do i bind my lily to convoke or ca for st?
midnight bough
I got the catalyst currency from getting some m+ rating are there any other sources of it outside of weekly reset and that achieve?
urban crescent
that reminds me, if im holding ca for longer than 2 minutes am i just supposed to lose the uptime on it
jaunty blaze
I got the catalyst currency from getting some m+ rating are there any other sour...
no
lofty depot
that reminds me, if im holding ca for longer than 2 minutes am i just supposed t...
Why did u hold it for 2m
loud flume
do i break t33 4p for 2p+2p?
jaunty blaze
its good yes
loud flume
thanks mike westside
jaunty blaze
you're welcome Dopey
lofty depot
dont you hold it for double ca for the 3rd convoke
The 4th CA comes up at like 230
240 or some shit
Then the thezt one at 420 ish
It's not a 2m hold tho
gleaming kiln
Boomie buffs where 
urban crescent
ok im just a brainlet
am i fine to just send lily with my ca macro i assume its fine
lofty depot
Ye
urban crescent
i will just copy lorgs for ca timings i guess since my brain just cant comprehend how to use cds on heroic and normal
where shit dies so fast
lofty depot
Depends on fight timer :/
Next week everyone gain 3%
Even shorter kills 😭
Can we add some health
urban crescent
2-1-1-2 for 430
2-1-2 for 330?
lofty depot
No, 430 is 212
urban crescent
ah
lofty depot
With the 330 timing yes
The 3m one is if it goes over
Cuz ur likely not getting that last ca
urban crescent
3min fight
urban crescent
you hold voke for 2nd ca if you wont get a 3rd in right
merry quail
Can any1 tell me why Raidbots is telling me that im losing DPS with 4 Set on Multitarget SIM?
lofty depot
It's like 4% diff between 30s what talent is correct
lofty depot
Not u dork
lofty depot
Can any1 tell me why Raidbots is telling me that im losing DPS with 4 Set on Mul...
This
lofty depot
Oh it's multi target sim lol
round field
yes
lofty depot
10t 40s that's badass
round field
very wrong
jaunty blaze
Might be
urban crescent
10target chadge
jaunty blaze
Might very well be
robust oracle
how do i sometimes have this "cast starfire/wrath faster" buff and sometimes not in raid?
for each new pull
lofty depot
If u died with it, u won't have it when u spawn
urban crescent
what time do i have to precast if i have dreamstate, im sick of removing it every pull
urban crescent
Use the cancelaura
i do
im stick of clicking the macro
oh can you do that
neat
lofty depot
Smh
urban crescent
am i a dumbass
lofty depot
The children
lofty depot
But I think u start at 4 still, the cast speed slower now
urban crescent
ty
fossil flame
Anybody else going to change the race of their druid to the new one
I’m really excited to do it
Don’t know if I’m gonna make it a lady or a guy yet
quiet drift
+1
urban crescent
more elfs its over
quiet drift
but haranir female belly
urban crescent
Why always no good ability for druid :/
guy called haymaker:
karmic tangle
Vulpera druids when. I want corgi sized forms
spare sage
Yo I am new to balance and don't know if they are supposed to be buffed in raid or they are doing ok
calm ibex
drifting nova
Yo I am new to balance and don't know if they are supposed to be buffed in raid ...
where are you
spare sage
In bed right now xD
drifting nova
lofty depot
Ele same.same ilvl as me but 500k more dam
lofty depot
Can't wait for a not 10% buff
Oo buff tomorrow mean 3% + 8%,
Surelyyyyyy
Then nerf ele by 5% or some shit....
Yeyayeyayeyayeyaywa
sonic crag
On top 20 seconds in though
urban crescent
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7B7ryRjCxCV7tnnKrvVmkB
you were right about the offhand, sim telling me vers mast now, and mast on rings
ty arctic
idk how i missed that
lofty depot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7B7ryRjCxCV7tnnKrvVmkB
you were right ab...
U'll gain another 0.5% if u play the correct talents
Also another like 0.3%-0.5% if u have jug at 684
lofty depot
Tragic
lofty depot
Uhhh, umbral inspiration for sotf
urban crescent
Uhhh, umbral inspiration for sotf
is this for st or just in general
urban crescent
ok i swapped
strong bronze
Well assa rogue got stealth nerfed , so blizzard might be cooking
lofty depot
is aoe just taking twin moons + cosmos
Uhh, no clue tbf
urban crescent
i dont even know what fights you can do substantial aoe on aside from like forge and soul hunters
everything else dies so fast
urban crescent
more than a starfalls worth of damage i guess
urban crescent
that would be pog
lofty depot
They'd probably code it wrong and it not get the benefits of mastery from the main target
urban crescent
lmao
shut mica
Oo buff tomorrow mean 3% + 8%,
Buffs inc?
lofty depot
no they hate orange bar
night gulch
surely buffs tomorrow 
nova ocean
I would take 8
lofty depot
if buffs are coming gastank will post a "hmm"
nova ocean
We need 10
marsh yew
Is there any way to sim my m+ dmg
mighty mica
marsh yew
a
lofty depot
if ur trying to find what damage u should be doing no
crude turtle
Is the 2p voidglass tier any good for balance, I looted the voidcore (trinket) and it doesnt SIM better than my current trinkets, should I hold on to it?
tender elbow
Buffs inc?
@lofty depot would it be reasonable to give boomies like +5% aura buff, given how they are performing relative to other specs?
urban crescent
ok
rancid surge
question: if the moment I cast my Starsurge I'm in CA but it hits the target after CA ends, does it still get the damage bonus?
urban crescent
11% using keeper 
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> would it be reasonable to give boomies like +5% aura buff,...
reasonable and at minimum
lofty depot
11% using keeper <:Despair:1281513020702330890>
yea bunch of padders
misty glade
question: if the moment I cast my Starsurge I'm in CA but it hits the target aft...
Yes this is calculated on cast, not hit
lofty depot
question: if the moment I cast my Starsurge I'm in CA but it hits the target aft...
calculated on cast yes
urban crescent
are the adds up way longer on mythic
lofty depot
dreamburst is the only thing calcualted on hit
lofty depot
are the adds up way longer on mythic
the canister ones no
the "intermission" ones yes
rancid surge
Great! Because I just got 4pc and practicing the new opener and I noticed my last Starsurge hits after CA is over
misty glade
Well your opener should have your second use of CA in it
lofty depot
dont u mean innit
rancid surge
Well your opener should have your second use of CA in it
Right I mean the last Starsurge of the 2nd CA. Looks like it happens in Gamz's video too
lofty depot
"perfectly"
rancid surge
Yeah seems to be really tight window
misty glade
Not for us normies arctic.
rancid surge
But I still need more practice. My muscle memory is still stuck on last season's cooldown sequencing
misty glade
You built diffy
lofty depot
go hit the dummy
rancid surge
My fingers keep trying to press trees before CA lol
But yeah just need more reps on the dummy
But I guess that damage calculation applies to normal eclipse as well? e.g. if I cast Wrath while in solar but it hits after eclipse ends it still gets the damage bonus from the solar eclipse?
lofty depot
yes
urban crescent
ye it calculates damage when the cast ends
rancid surge
sweet thanks
urban crescent
yes
is this also true if the projectile hits the boss after it either goes immune / does a damage amp?
lofty depot
erhm
urban crescent
i.e. if you finish casting wrath 1 second before a boss takes double damage, will the wrath be boosted or still be normal damage
urban crescent
based
rancid surge
confirmed
urban crescent
i assume 704 kris will outsim a 710 weapon with the voidcore trinket
lofty depot
it should
urban crescent
0.5% not bad
fast grail
how do you do the last boss in ara kara? i kill the adds on the very edge of the platform and wipe the group.
pale halo
Idk i never leave starfall off on last boss and everything is just fine
night gulch
depends on where you stand
urban crescent
melee just shred them and the boss gets moved
night gulch
if you're killing them as they spawn then yeah you're griefing the group
pale halo
Not too far from mid not too close to the edge usually
Just moonfire few that run on platform so i can jump into puddle and later just starfall blobs after the cast
lost roost
Why is balance dead last on raid damage meters right now? Bad tier sets? Bad stat scaling? Fight design that doesn't play to balance's strengths? All of the above?
nova yarrow
what u pref to sim m+ ? patchwerk 5 boss nightly or dungeonslice? or how do u sim this? thank a lot
fiery kindle
Do you know any YouTubers who are currently doing high-level keys?
lofty depot
Why is balance dead last on raid damage meters right now? Bad tier sets? Bad s...
our tier set got gutted then buffed back about 20% of what it was
fiery kindle
I used to watch dwilkz, but I don't think they're sharing it right now.
nova yarrow
https://discord.com/channels/114145367322394624/121880895211831302/1409646036309...
tyvm
lofty depot
the base class is beans and does zdps outside of it. We've gone thru multiple tiers needing 10+% aura buffs
urban crescent
https://discord.com/channels/114145367322394624/121880895211831302/1409646036309...
doing gods work 🙏
livid jay
is cotti a genius or is he cooking rancid food?
livid jay
unluck
quiet drift
The previous night timers were perfect
Arcane mages locked in and intermissions were 15s faster
lofty depot
what if u jsut send a CA at 2m, but then send a ca + convoke into amp
royal zenith
I would advise to send cooldowns on damage amps
quiet drift
what if u jsut send a CA at 2m, but then send a ca + convoke into amp
too fast
or we were
lofty depot
it would be at the same time
royal zenith
@ new peeps
lofty depot
ur holding the convoke at 2m
and ur still then using convoke at 6m
its the same thing, but convoke would do more into amp
unless u actually needed the convoke dam into the pylon
royal zenith
if you have a few mages and warlocks (like 2 each) you should not pump into pylon
you will miss quite a lot of boss damage
it's nice for prog tho
as in seeing more of the fight
quiet drift
1st dmg amp is at 3:38
2nd is 6:09
so you have 2:30 between 4 and 6min
meanwhile 1:38 between 2min and 4min
lofty depot
i understand that
lofty depot
its actually pretty curious u got that
cuz ur losing like 200+m from the first amp
gained it back at 6m
sturdy perch
Is there a wa that tracks convoke spells and dmg done?
lofty depot
yea u dont need to know said info
therse a funny spreadsheet with chances of what each spell has 🙂
sturdy perch
Oh ya I know just wondering … I know the infos meaningless
fiery kindle
https://tenor.com/view/sandsten-world-of-warcraft-casting-couch-casting-couch-gi...
Will there be a buff?
dry compass
https://tenor.com/view/crystal-ball-crowley-david-tennant-good-omens-psychic-gif-3436909361193405344
me divining the tuning notes we're not getting til tomorrow morning if at all
night gulch
tomorrow is na reset, so if tuning is happening they post today or it'll be next week
lucid olive
theyve posted tuning on tuesdays before
clever barn
if i craft an agi 2-hand, can i upgrade int weapons for free after?
lucid olive
ye
clever barn
big ty
pale swan
where buffs
livid jay
if i craft an agi 2-hand, can i upgrade int weapons for free after?
idk ask #feral 
red nymph
still no buffs is crazy
livid jay
I swear doing damage to the webs on loomithar is so cringe on boomie?
I do like 5 damage to them
lofty depot
i send 2 buffed surges at the 2nd orb on the first set
otherwise i just dot 2nd orb and shoot wraths at it sometimes
nova ocean
Man those buffs moonkin just got are huge
potent cargo
boomy cant be buffed
red nymph
Man those buffs moonkin just got are huge
potent cargo
bc they are already nuclear
in pvp
imagine having broken st damage in pvp but do literally nothing in raid
red nymph
imagine having broken st damage in pvp but do literally nothing in raid
pvp modifiers arent a thing anymore?
potent cargo
blizz doesn't believe in those
lofty depot
imagine having broken st damage in pvp but do literally nothing in raid
dont have to imagine
do the double buff surges kill people or
quiet drift
imagine having broken st damage in pvp but do literally nothing in raid
Is Kotg nuke or what
lofty depot
1m convoke prob
fossil flame
is the ring still a thing this season, i pray not
vital shard
There will be no tuning.
tulip snow
what are the balance change bets this time around?
vital shard
Only trinket tuning
digital berry
Trust him his father works at blizzard
tulip snow
pirate?
vital shard
Astral antenna - 3% crit
tulip snow
balance of all things performing too strongly, moved to 10% crit
unintended playstyle
frail sonnet
voidcore users, arise
vital shard
Screams of a Forgotten Sky - On-death damage increased by 15%.
Perfidious Projector - Damage increased by 10%.
Naazindhri’s Mystic Lash - Damage increased by 15%.
Astral Antenna - Critical Strike reduced by 3%.
Gigazap’s Zap-Cap - Damage increased by 15%. Internal cooldown reduced to 0.5 seconds (was 0.75 seconds).
First Class Healing Distributor - Healing increased by 20%.
So’leah’s Secret Technique - Buff duration increased to 1 hour.
pale swan
buffs after this in 15 min surely
fossil flame
I went leatherworking this xpansion, what do you guys do for your boomie, do you think being able to craft your own gear is a +
lofty depot
enchanting and alch
fossil flame
Why so
pale swan
I went leatherworking this xpansion, what do you guys do for your boomie, do you...
alch
lofty depot
sell encahnts
vital shard
Alch
lofty depot
2hoour flasks so i can snipe the cauldron
fossil flame
all my wow time was herb/alch till this xpnasion
pale swan
all my wow time was herb/alch till this xpnasion
you do herb/mining on alt
fossil flame
just always een dudes crafting their own gear, i stopped mid legion till like the end of DF and tried skinning/lw this time
fossil flame
you do herb/mining on alt
luckily i got an alt with both pretty good and a max lvl enchanter
lofty depot
my guild craft my gear
i make money
i was buying and making cursed mastery and crit enchants every tier
buying anything under 2k.... patch hits sell for 4k
heavy iris
surely in 3 minutes
ebon meadow
When running Elune's Chosen and you're in your CA, do you wrath in ST or use Starfire?
covert talon
Will this nerf to antenna change the Trinket tierlist? as is it still worth taking from the vault for us?
strong bronze
Hopefully we wake up to orange class tuning kekw
lofty depot
probably still better than anything else
cuz thye didnt buff empowered crystal or parapod
heavy iris
44 mins till tuning im sure
pale swan
pseudo merlin
I had an addon before that allowed me to create custom castbars for me, target, target of target, focus and it also included a horizontal GCD bar, anyone know what I'm talking about?
lofty depot
they buff boomkin ill be op
glossy jungle
no stix-like-boss this tier to prop up our absolute dirt raid performance. surely blizzard sees the statistics 
scarlet tapir
lofty depot
no stix-like-boss this tier to prop up our absolute dirt raid performance. surel...
kek, soul hunters
scarlet tapir
Pretty sure feral still does better
lofty depot
it does
burnt timber
any would be decent boomy fight this teir just has too much movement
pseudo merlin
bring back SD
pseudo merlin
What if SD is the new 4p talent
vital hound
Pretty sure feral still does better
yea but melee bens
beans*
for that fight
so boomkin supremacy (we buff the warlocks)
iron chasm
Please thank us for our contribution (3% versatility) (nobody needs innervate anymore)
lost roost
"nobody needs innervate anymore" -> tell that to the resto shaman in my guild
iron chasm
"nobody needs innervate anymore" -> tell that to the resto shaman in my guild
Bros griefing I’m pretty sure they don’t need it since farseer is op
iron chasm
ur thanking the rdru
I’m forcing a healer to reroll rdru so I can get off this beans spec (unless we get a cool tuning parse then I will take it all back)
lofty depot
You’ll be very sorry when they give us a meaningless 5% buff
yea but tomorrow we get a 3% buff
thats 8%
digital berry
yea but tomorrow we get a 3% buff
If only that’s how it worked
lofty depot
thats quick maff
lavish jungle
5% is better then nothing tho
vital hound
I’m forcing a healer to reroll rdru so I can get off this beans spec (unless we ...
what are you swapping to
ur a coward for rerolling btw
digital berry
Fotm probably elly or lock
digital berry
Smh
digital berry
Who know they might leave them as is
vital hound
they won't
lofty depot
might hm
wild dune
taken out back
digital berry
But yeah rerolling to do the same dmg but green parse cause you have no idea how to play the new spec is just not it
lofty depot
But yeah rerolling to do the same dmg but green parse cause you have no idea how...
just play better
vital hound
then play something more interesting
digital berry
I’m playing balance
vital hound
🫘
digital berry
True to myself
iron chasm
But yeah rerolling to do the same dmg but green parse cause you have no idea how...
Imagine getting an orange parse on a better class tho
iron chasm
Fotm probably elly or lock
I am definitely not going Ele or lock wtf
@vital hound Prob dev after dimensius and then I’m playing ranged demon hunter next expac 🥸
digital berry
Imagine getting an orange parse on a better class tho
I’d rather not be a damn turncoat
Clanker behavior
loud kettle
digital berry
( my raid team has multiples of any class id want to reroll to )
vital hound
iron chasm
( my raid team has multiples of any class id want to reroll to )
Mage/hunter/lock are occupied so I’m just going dev because our other dev is not it
lofty depot
should?
loud kettle
didnt test to see if mystic lash/zap cap was correct
digital berry
Mage/hunter/lock are occupied so I’m just going dev because our other dev is not...
we got 2 mages 2 hunters 2 lock 2 devs
2 ellys too
might actually only have 1 dev now but i dont wanna play that trash
delicate perch
calling any spec trash while willingly logging into boomkin is for sure a take btw
digital berry
iron chasm
calling any spec trash while willingly logging into boomkin is for sure a take b...
These guys didn’t see my guilds damage to the tethers last night
They don’t know my struggle do they Cavey
delicate perch
vital hound
calling any spec trash while willingly logging into boomkin is for sure a take b...
average yank L
vital hound
These guys didn’t see my guilds damage to the tethers last night
They don’t know...
bro im having to double CA pylons
iron chasm
bro im having to double CA pylons
We only really got through intermission once last night so I’m not 100% sure of the damage
vital hound
that boss is prime real estate
iron chasm
First phase feels like absolute piss though for a boomy Jesus Christ. Can’t even get a cheeky dream surge off on the small adds before our melee destroy them
vital hound
for terrorism
lofty depot
bro im having to double CA pylons
im afk
vital hound
First phase feels like absolute piss though for a boomy Jesus Christ. Can’t even...
yea nerfs went hard
just feels like it falls apart if someone dies
iron chasm
I was thinking about copying that
Felt yuck sitting on cds for so long
But there was only like 3 out of the top 50 doing it
iron chasm
Are you actually policing not liking holding cds now
lofty depot
yea get over it
iron chasm
Owo
robust monolith
is it worth to fit the 2 empowered starsurge from fading dryad in the current CA? because im fitting them in the first window but as i saw people just use the 2nd stack of alignment on pull
iron chasm
Ur welcome
lofty depot
is it worth to fit the 2 empowered starsurge from fading dryad in the current CA...
well u do both
because at 2m u dont have 2 ca
nocturne osprey
anyone have WA for tset tracking? thanks
lofty depot
anyone have WA for tset tracking? thanks
its in the compendium
as is the OiBalance pack which is clearly better than what ur using currently
nocturne osprey
how do you know what I use currently ? 😄
vital hound
cause its not tracking tierset
craggy sonnet
what if u jsut send a CA at 2m, but then send a ca + convoke into amp
im pretty sure you play potent and CA in each intermission with collectors sub 20% and then 4x dryad surge into amp
lofty depot
like this?
oh peopel arent using potent
so they dont get double at the end
bunch of noobs
u can double into amp if u use potent
craggy sonnet
yea
but you want to actually do something with the CA
so you CA late into collectors
and then bank the buff
craggy sonnet
what are these trees
craggy sonnet
but yea
you CA with collectors sub 20%
then CA 1s before amp, can press starfall to dump beforehand, then just wrath into trees into convoke
and spend surges end of CA
so you get 4 surges within CA and trees and amp
and with potent you can do that for both amps
without only for first
lofty depot
yeayae
craggy sonnet
cant tell which is better
craggy sonnet
i've also started perma starfalling once the 2nd echo is up
which i think is decent
lofty depot
but yea, if ur rl wants u to cd on pylons
craggy sonnet
a bit paddy but since you are playing AK anyways
lofty depot
kinda weird
craggy sonnet
if they do .. sure
but i dont think its very impactful tbh
and you do still CA pylons
just late
elder remnant
We got buffs yet?
craggy sonnet
channel would be buzzing if we did
undone portal
the buffs were in our hearts all along
leaden birch
Antenna nerf!
stone ocean
Are aims for trinkets updated on Raid bots do we know
craggy sonnet
since its not live, i dont think so
stone ocean
Sims
barren galleon
is elunes chosen or trees better for m+?
stone ocean
Depends on key level
Is it going to live long enough for you to get the benefit for FOE ?
stone ocean
I usually go with 10+ FOE
Anything where you’re not going to get a lot of ramp I would go for KOG
In a +8 you’re not going to get alot of ramp all dies way to fast so with trees it gives you a lot more burst damage
barren galleon
okok tyty ❤️
stone ocean
Np
Also just make sure you’re not wasting casts, FOE Cd is reduced when you spend and build so using WOE with this as it expires allows you to get a lot more out
upper anvil
we run Raid build for hardmode right
stone ocean
Small pulls a lot boss ST target needed for prio on bosses so I would say so
craggy sonnet
we run Raid build for hardmode right
you can freely swap talents
upper anvil
you right
dense steeple
anyone else kill this guy for funsies
fossil flame
calling it now in midnight, theyre giving us a super saiyan boomkin form
dense steeple
hey everyone look, this guy thinks boomkin is gonna get something cool in the new dh spec xpac
sullen perch
so I am dumb, but we hold CA for 2 charge with Convoke+ trees after pull right?
dense steeple
so I am dumb, but we hold CA for 2 charge with Convoke+ trees after pull right?
what do logs say
sullen perch
I really haven't looked at logs
fossil flame
hey everyone look, this guy thinks boomkin is gonna get something cool in the ne...
were alreay cool and got cool shit, were shooting laser beams and shit dog
sun and moon stuff, thats great for me, pew , looking sexier then all the other class/specs as well, just absolute chads
dense steeple
sun and moon stuff, thats great for me, pew , looking sexier then all the other ...
i resonate wit hthe first half but we look like fuckin donkeys
dense steeple
I really haven't looked at logs
you should start there and compare 🙂
fossil flame
xalatath tried to change spec to boomy but she wasn't powerful enough
yeah we do look like donkeys lmao im just ty ring to be positive
hoping thew ne race gets a cool ass boomy form, i been a troll a lot and a night elf a lot thru the years so its the best of both worlds im pumped to change
dense steeple
we just came out of an xpac with a bunch of cooked visual upgrades for us. no shot they give us something again for another 3 xpacs minimum
fossil flame
yeah i missed df and the 2 zxpansions before, real life bad sh it going on, had to quit mid legion 🙁 was getting legit anxiety all those years i couldnt play wow, mad fomo, heard i didn't miss much in one but still
so wasn't there for it
btw whgen did that get added?
fossil flame
oh, neve rnoticed
i aint played in s3 more then an hour but my buddy sent me that and asked me and i have no clue
Looking forward to trying when I’m all caught up in classic
Prepping for tbc
dense steeple
fuck classic
fossil flame
Actually pretty pumped for that, not a boomy there though , I’m a shaman traitor
Classic classic is wack but looking mad forward to tbc and especially wotlk
That was when i went boomy
mad good memories in wotlk, did 5's in that arena wehre you pop up next to eachother
wed lust, my boy pop bestial wrath id pop starfall , had that starfire/starfall stun talent, it would always stun the healers and mess them at a pivotal heal moment, i used to melt people, was very good that season and fun
stuck quartz
When are we shutting down the born discord? It’s been 2 days since the race ended and no buffs have been announced. Time to take action
lofty depot
go ahead and @ thyme, hes the hold out on the discord shutdown
(dont do it, this is a joke)
mighty mica
stuck quartz
Yeah just a joke 🙂
lofty depot
yea but no one likes bear
dense steeple
its absolutely insane that no matter the time of day, someone says thyme and thyme shows up
fossil flame
you think people like balance significantly more?
i like it regardless
lofty depot
3x = significantly more
mighty mica
its absolutely insane that no matter the time of day, someone says thyme and thy...
because it's so hard to multitask
fossil flame
i think theres too much gloom and doom and stuff sometimes, rightful sadness at lack of attention but if a class is cool and fun its cool and fun and it is indeed both, to me, other peoples feelingfs only matter so much
lofty depot
damn, hes out here multitasking
stuck quartz
Just combine bear and boomy
lofty depot
also, ive done that before and he doesnt say anything
dense steeple
what is multi tasking
fossil flame
neve would use that one button anyway thats lame shit, or for peoplje learning
stuck quartz
No not the one button button, literally just 1 button for the spec
vital hound
because it's so hard to multitask
now we know why faq channel cant exist
mighty mica
?
vital hound
ur too busy FARMING
nova ocean
this is it for today right?
Yup see you next Monday
lucid olive
because it's so hard to multitask
Wyrmrest over Dreamgrove
i get how it is
that's why Wyrmrest has FAQ channels
mighty mica
i have channel favorites so it doesn't matter either way
lucid olive
moderator admitting to having favorites..
mighty mica
hard pass
lucid olive
wtf
lofty depot
type shit
lucid olive
shit
mighty mica
shit
lofty depot
gamz always talking shit, but hes the one dming me like he got no friends
yea i bet u delete that
lucid olive
thats toxic
lofty depot
yea but i know u can take it
lucid olive
no i'm gonna go to bed sad now
lucid olive
gonna pick up guitar and cry to some taylor swift
lofty depot
u can play guitar?
lofty depot
thats badass
lucid olive
if you had me on instagram you would know
craggy sonnet
hope its an e guitar and you are not blasting your neighbors with taylor swift at 5 in the morning
lucid olive
yeah i know
lofty depot
lucid olive
cause i asked you months ago if you had one
lofty depot
actually i probably used to in high school
lucid olive
so i could add you to the list of people i send dumb reels to
along with @vital hound
vital hound
i'm not your parents, i can have favorites
my parents have favourite
vital hound
so i could add you to the list of people i send dumb reels to
why you gotta tag me
everytime you say this
its like ptsd
mighty mica
my parents have favourite
oh i know
lucid olive
my parents have favourite
yeah your moms favourite is me
vital hound
what the helly
lofty depot
Arctic uses tiktok though
yea i get sent memes from turtle and twist all the time
delicate perch
Arctic uses tiktok though
explains a lot
lucid olive
yea i get sent memes from turtle and twist all the time
twist sends the most cursed shit
idk how many videos i got of that fuckin smurf in the forest man
lofty depot
yea playing evoker changed him
lucid olive
explains a lot
you should get added to the instagram reel list
i plan to spread cringe throughout the entire oceanic continent
delicate perch
i plan to spread cringe throughout the entire oceanic continent
we have enough cringe content here 🐼
@vital hound
vital hound
SUBATHON 🐼 RACE TO WORLD THIRD 🐼
nova ocean
Maybe they announce tuning during maintenance
delicate perch
yep, big nerf coming for balance druid
lucid olive
theyre done tuning the game
normal pilot
ya tww is over man
lucid olive
fully focused on midnight now
normal pilot
stop worrying about old content
delicate perch
just play better (play with worse people so you look good)
odd briar
New to a balance druid. I have a question that bothers me. This scenario happens often. For example: I am in EC for M+, I am ~1 second away from the end of lunar eclipse, I don't have AP to spend. Do I cast Starfire even though by the end of the cast there won't be eclipse, or do I start casting Wrath so when cast finishes, I will be 1/2 for entering next eclipse and spend extra dreamstate cast on next Starfire?
lofty depot
cast wrath
craggy sonnet
thats an easy wrath, yea
more interesting would be if the remaining eclipse duration is too short for another starfire but too long to wrath
which in this case
you should ask why you dont have AP
odd briar
thats an easy wrath, yea
Thanks. Any tips for keeping high uptime in the raid? I did wowanalyzer for my logs, and in most encounters shows me with ~7-8% cancelled casts and 75-82% casting. I just feel like there is lot of movement and shit happening, plus I am coming from playing a melee class previously. I know about "always be casting", but I feel like if I plant, I often eat meachanics in the face
normal pilot
you just need to watch boss mods
lucid olive
looking at timers, not panicking when you get a mechanic, and building muscle memory so you don't have to think hard about your rotation during the fight
craggy sonnet
which is why nobody was thrilled to play it while it was still theoretically above keeper
odd briar
you should ask why you dont have AP
That's another thing, I tried learning before with rotation assist, it seems to prioritize spending any AP I have. If I have enough for starsurge, it advises to spend it right away. Is it better to pool AP? Maybe hover at least around ~30?
craggy sonnet
what rotation assist?
odd briar
In-game
normal pilot
oh no never use that to learn
craggy sonnet
thats not gonna bring you very far
scenic mist
That's another thing, I tried learning before with rotation assist, it seems to ...
hover around 80
normal pilot
the blizz rotation assist is dog afwul for every sepc exception demo lock
craggy sonnet
you should read the pinned guide
and if you really wanted to get some rotation assist
get hekili or something
normal pilot
if a mechanic is coming in the next 5-10s start pooling AP
craggy sonnet
to get an idea about what button you should be pressing
odd briar
get hekili or something
Never used it. Is there built-in profile for balance? Or need to import it from somewhere?
normal pilot
i'm pretty sure hekili'll just dump ap too
craggy sonnet
rotation is not that deep though. the priority list should be digestible enough
normal pilot
balance is just not a spec you should use rotation assist with
craggy sonnet
doesnt hekili just parse from apl?
odd briar
hover around 80
Do I hover throughout combat? Or better to dump AP if no mechanics are coming and only start saving AP 5-10 seconds before mechanic?
craggy sonnet
(i have never used it)
craggy sonnet
Do I hover throughout combat? Or better to dump AP if no mechanics are coming an...
read the guide
you cant just generalize either way
you wanna be able to build up starlord once it falls off
and otherwise you mostly spend to not overcap or for movement
normal pilot
balance is a proactive spec, not reactive so it's not the best spec for a melee player to take up
odd briar
Ok thanks for the tips, I probably will have to retrain myself and my wrong muscle memory. I've been running Balance since start of season.
craggy sonnet
again, study https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium
its gonna answer most of your questions
iron chasm
we have enough cringe content here 🐼
Cavey let me add you to my absolutely fucked algorithm
unreal bridge
guys i feel like im being scammed, i cant understand why my Wrath is hitting 4to5M (good crits)
BUT Starsurge is hitting for 1.5M? WTH?
lofty depot
welcome to boomkin
unreal bridge
like in the middle of my convoke and this damage shows up , Really low starsurges and wraths hitting for the same amount
vital hound
Cavey let me add you to my absolutely fucked algorithm
are you getting
the suddam hussein ronaldo edits
craggy sonnet
like in the middle of my convoke and this damage shows up , Really low starsurge...
its because of umbral embrace + blooming infusion
most likely
lucid olive
the suddam hussein ronaldo edits
Bruno Bruno Bruno
lucid olive
Holy
digital berry
I am hallucinating buffs
lucid olive
Arctic didn't follow me back on Instagram it's cooked
lucid olive
Gg
lucid olive
i wanna follow him too
Bro you haven't posted in 9 years what the helly
lucid olive
digital berry
i also look like a toddler
vivid fiber
hey guys kjust wondering would it ever be bis to use 2 on use trinkets for example araz's ritual and signet. over araz ritual and astral antena/azhiccaran for single targets. sims showing the on use trinkets much higher than the pasive ones
lucid olive
Not really
lofty depot
Arctic didn't follow me back on Instagram it's cooked
i was doing a key
craggy sonnet
hey guys kjust wondering would it ever be bis to use 2 on use trinkets for examp...
sims showing you double on use higher than with a passive one?
neon bane
digital berry
thankfully it aint no more
normal pilot
it's still a talent you can pick
digital berry
Hmm
crystal of a noob actually ever so slightly outsims jug
26 ilvls up
also living flame outsims araz somehow
craggy sonnet
yea living flame is insane
but it might be an apl thing as well (maybe popping trinkets after trees on the double CAs makes it sim better)
digital berry
It lasts 20 seconds so it would only cover the second double surge if used with trees and it’d be very tight
craggy sonnet
its not tight
but yea, 20s trinkets you should definitely hold til after trees
forge is what im not sure about since its 30s but decays
also, no need to use with trees .. you can wait the tree gcd
do you actually have both forge and living flame??
btw, you should also sim your cloak gem and belt effects
vital hound
but it might be an apl thing as well (maybe popping trinkets after trees on the ...
big int increase to increase cap
type shit
craggy sonnet
how did they give you forge if you already had flame
thats wild
(im just jelly btw)
digital berry
I got flame after I got forge I presume ( I actually had sold flame and had to restore it )
craggy sonnet
that makes sense
iron chasm
are you getting
Mine is furrys and unsavoury ai videos
But I’m interested
vital hound
mighty mica
hmmm
vital hound
fun police
vital hound
iron chasm
Hey guys where’s the patch notes I want to see my 5% starsurge buff
lofty depot
unforch
iron chasm
normal pilot
balance got played in rwf last boss so no need for buffs
nova ocean
it did? i only saw feral and resto
normal pilot
ya krona played balance for like 2 pulls
nova ocean
good thing blizzard only looks at this stat and tunes off it
dry compass
ya krona played balance for like 2 pulls
one pull
nova ocean
huge buffs incoming
dry compass
and he crashed out doing it
leaden birch
yo how is this dude from moonguard able to dm me
wild dune
huge buffs (5% aura)
leaden birch
but I can't dm him back
digital berry
ya krona played balance for like 2 pulls
One pull and it was ec 
digital berry
but I can't dm him back
If he flamed he must have ignored after sending the message
leaden birch
nah he keeps dming lmao
some loser dk on moonguard started talking shit so I clapped back
delicate perch
yes that's how the ignore feature works
leaden birch
now he keeps dming and I can't even reply
wait, you can keep dming people that you've ignored?
delicate perch
yes?
delicate perch
just press enter and the chat will be whispering them still
leaden birch
how soft do you have to be to ignore and then keep dming
leaden birch
wow players can't hang for shit when it comes to bm
potent cargo
if you open chat you get banned in wow
no power to type any hate
looking at chat in pvp is a ban
vital hound
ya krona played balance for like 2 pulls
errant flint
good thing blizzard only looks at this stat and tunes off it
JFC I cannot win here. I switched off of BM to this. So Im still in the shit.
Seppuku rn
digital berry
Tbh rerolling into balance was your first mistake
normal pilot
unlucky should've done more research
errant flint
I just wanted to have fun
digital berry
There’s no universe balance ever is anywhere above bottom 20% on raid launch
errant flint
There’s no universe balance ever is anywhere above bottom 20% on raid launch
Is it always like this?
digital berry
Is it always like this?
Been like this in df and tww
meager storm
starting wow during shadowlands was my worst mistake
i had a mage ready 
why was boomy so good
delicate perch
errant flint
starting wow during shadowlands was my worst mistake
starting wow. fixed it for you
digital berry
Spec is dog water beginning of the tier, 3 buff patches later we are still dog water but within 5% of everyone else
normal pilot
if your primary concern is dps then you should never reroll to a hybrid class
digital berry
Playstyle this tier is at least the most interesting we’ve had in 2 expansions
looking real comfy
digital berry
Is it normal to have no idea whatsoever about possible balancing tomorrow yet ?
errant flint
wild dune
if your primary concern is dps then you should never reroll to a hybrid class
hasn't shaman been consistently good since df s1
either enhance or now ele
digital berry
hasn't shaman been consistently good since df s1
I wouldn’t necessarily say that since either or is good then it’s fine since generally speaking people prefer melee or ranged and don’t switch around no
wild dune
sure sure but gastank did say class
digital berry
Then again if feral was broken I’d probably force myself to play it
delicate perch
cope
wild dune
i think the in-and-out melee/ranged will be fun
craggy sonnet
They made it sound like that is just one build / enabler talent
So if that ain't good, then you might just not be in melee ever
But their eye beam looks very neat
digital berry
Isn’t it just a recolor
minor anchor
yes it basically is, and its very cool
wind mason
good thing blizzard only looks at this stat and tunes off it
can we shut off discord for few days like ret did
hot crystal
vital hound
i like it when boomkin is shit
less "why cant i get into solar eclipse" type questions
manic sun
Parapodia + Lily or Parapoda + Ritual Forge for M+ Only?
For Trinkets or what is best way to sim for Boomy since Dungeon Slice does not work
mighty mica
atomic sand
is fine boomie
barren cove
harsh jungle
So no incoming balance buffs?
wind mason
So no incoming balance buffs?
right now no, but there should be some class tuning inc
harsh jungle
Prayge
tight dagger
Why is the Tree Cooldown different , sometimes 39, sometimes 45
bronze tartan
talent control of the dream?
tight dagger
I dont undertand it
bronze tartan
do you have the talent control of the dream
it's in the hero talents of keeper of the grove
tight dagger
bronze tartan
it reduces some cooldowns if you hold on to them up to 15 sec or so
Time elapsed while your major abilities are available to be used or at maximum charges is subtracted from that ability's cooldown after the next time you use it, up to 15 seconds.
Affects Force of Nature, Celestial Alignment, and Convoke the Spirits.
so let's say the CD is 45 seconds
but if it comes up
and 10 seconds later you use it
then the CD is 35 seconds
bronze tartan
makes it easier to line up CDs
tight dagger
Yes , can Track the buff ?
bronze tartan
idk, I don't really track it
tight dagger
Ok
iron chasm
maybe its ranged dh time
We are our scars
urban crescent
starting wow during shadowlands was my worst mistake
give this man a real award
livid jay
somebody done a sim with astral antenna before and after nerf?
fathom nebula
Where is the 10% Boomie buff.
Some handsome dude in here promised me a 10% buff 😭
dapper wing
wdym
We are doing perfectly fine
Ret's down bad af
Balance is the best it's been in years
ionic oak
fathom nebula
Yeh, childish lashing out will go great! 😄
Also MM hunters are broken, why would they
royal zenith
surprised there's no tuning yet in general
even boss tuning
too focused on midnight
loud kettle
Feral 22nd place lets gooooo
royal zenith
gamescon parties too rough
quiet drift
even boss tuning
Not much to do yet tbh
royal zenith
tell that to the fractilus and soulhunter nerfs
quiet drift
6/8 of the bosses are just pushovers that just need some pulls by majority of the CE guilds
quiet drift
tell that to the fractilus and soulhunter nerfs
ye these were done during RWF aimed at the guilds below top 4
royal zenith
sure, but they jumped the gun on those nerfs
royal zenith
araz still a pretty fun fight...
hows frac anyway?
can't imagine it being super exciting
quiet drift
Most boring shit ive done all of retail
quiet drift
Look at WA
round field
Stand on marker
round field
Spread a few times
Thats it
"Chicken your weakaura is out of date"
"Doesnt matter just pull"
"Why do we have 2 walls on moon"
jade flume
@pallid bay man, i get to play feral on nexus king lmao
But 710 weapon and garbonzo trinkets 
round field
But 710 weapon and garbonzo trinkets <:VerySadCat:845090284231458817>
Me on dh boss but its 684 weapon
jade flume
Damn
jade flume
If its bis its bis
I really hope at least weapon drops next week, since nobody needs it
round field
"trust me bro you will get aids in melee"
jade flume
And would be huge for looqd
round field
Meanwhile we getting aids in ranged
pallid bay
<@148552191874039808> man, i get to play feral on nexus king lmao
its ok just open vault fearl
or get first boss wep
round field
dire osprey
cant wait for dimensius p3