balance

[dapper wing]

You are playable

and are able to be brought to caster comp still

[past iron]

Nah trust they will get buffed

[delicate perch]

Very simple playstyle which is a bonus in keys

[lofty depot]

lol, hope they buff raid and dont buff aoe

[delicate perch]

Can muscle memory afk the rotation and still do decent

[lofty depot]

fuck m+ers

[past iron]

[dapper wing]

Ask Tettles

[delicate perch]

Lmfao you already know it’ll be a big starfall buff and a small surge buff

[dapper wing]

you can do 1 button rotation and gain damage

[lofty depot]

hittem with another lunar calling buff

[dapper wing]

grosssss

[flint stratus]

thanks for reviewing my logs really apprecitaed

[lofty depot]

and add some duration to he buff

[warm valley]

16 casts no proc

[dapper wing]

Hey, we noticed Boomkin isn't doing great in raid, this raid has a lot of cleave. Here is a lunar calling buff and a starfall buff. Have fun

[jaunty blaze]

Raise the cap of the 4pc again

[past iron]

Class tuning will happen after rwf

Alota decent classrs might get big nerfs anyways

Druid might climb up if it does get buffs

[lofty depot]

lol

[jaunty blaze]

[dapper wing]

We are genuinely bottom of the barrel

[lofty depot]

when have we climbed after buffs

[dapper wing]

It's gonna take a lot of buffs / big buffs to climb anything lol

[lofty depot]

blud is on some next level shit right now

gotta be a mage player

he dont know

[jaunty blaze]

The only thing that will make us look decent by end of the tier is that boss fights are so short

[dapper wing]

They don't know

Ret is pretty down bad

Give it another 8%

Also wtf, why is arms performing so well in mythic atm

[jaunty blaze]

You hate to see it

[warm valley]

Over a 1M gap

[jaunty blaze]

Lets see what they cook up for us

[covert coyote]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUycHhwbjVzeHl5eWptaG5jNTVrMTFlcHhjYmY3aDZzenB1emF6dGdodiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/xT9KVAwTqTG0yLzVew/200.gif

[dapper wing]

TRUE

Sand baggers the lot of us

[lofty depot]

15x int, and some funny wrath buff

[dapper wing]

Of course it's gonna be a wrath buff

[jaunty blaze]

Take it or leave it

[dapper wing]

It's going to be so fucking sad

[warm valley]

30%

[dapper wing]

reading 15% more wrath damage

on tuesday

[jaunty blaze]

Revert to 25x cap please

[lofty depot]

they wont

[forest fable]

At this point i'll take every buff we can get

[jaunty blaze]

A man can dream

[dapper wing]

I just want to see our double starsurge hit as hard as engulf does

[lofty depot]

no u cant

[jaunty blaze]

Sorry

[dapper wing]

Even tho engulf is a 45? second cooldown

[lofty depot]

our double surges are 100s cd

whats ur point

[dapper wing]

That our damage numbers are fucked and should be doubled

[jaunty blaze]

Hire this man

[dapper wing]

for the surges after dryad

[lofty depot]

nah they need to hit harder than engulf

[dapper wing]

That's not gonna happen

[jaunty blaze]

The entire kit is fucked anyway

[dapper wing]

True

[fast parcel]

Revert tier back to HP based bear gimmick

[dapper wing]

rework the entire spec

[jaunty blaze]

Target switching is such a pain

[fast parcel]

Anyways gave up on balance for raid and just healing this tier, m+ still do some keys when I can’t heal

[jaunty blaze]

Why do i have to spend 2 gcds to start doing damage

[fast parcel]

EC tier proc rng feels worse than ravage procs somehow

[jaunty blaze]

Warlock presses funny havoc and blasts

[delicate perch]

Orrr a HUGE starfire buff???

Oh now I’m oldge

[dapper wing]

Just two?

You also have to go into an eclipse

Which is another two OR spending CA for it

[jaunty blaze]

I sure hope they get rid of eclipse

[graceful plank]

But it makes total sense to have to cast 2 wraths into a pull with 20 mobs first before doing damage.

[warm valley]

Gotta cast 10 moonfires first, oh packs gone

[quiet drift]

Then repeat it

15s later

[graceful plank]

😂

[dapper wing]

10 moonfires, 1 sunfire hope it's all in range

[lofty depot]

if u have cds u dont do that

but nonetheless still cringe

[smoky remnant]

How can we make blizzard bring back ravenous frenzy

[covert coyote]

shut down the discord

they'll have no choice

[lofty depot]

Neither of those things are gonna happen

[smoky remnant]

I swear

How about we act like terrorists like the ret discord

Untill they bring back ravenous frenzy

[lofty depot]

Our mods are too sane for that

[smoky remnant]

Unless....

[round field]

Our mods are definitely not sane

Thats a lie

[lofty depot]

We don't have a TC or faq channel and u think they're gonna shut one channel down

Big funny

[smoky remnant]

Ye but we have like

Dreamgrove

[warm valley]

Guys with some patience, and a few decent buffs. We can go from bottom tier, to bottom tier but not as far from top spec, just like every other season in this expansion

[jaunty blaze]

so real

[livid jay]

at least back in the day we used to be op at the start and then got nerfed and nerfed and nerfed

now we are just shit

[candid dragon]

bruh

[lofty depot]

GJ reading

[jaunty blaze]

bro complains about getting stopped from making mistakes

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[cloud plover]

why balance druid always angs

angy

[lofty depot]

Same reason you're always yapping

We're built this way

[dapper wing]

God damn

Can they ever show their face again

[lofty depot]

She will, cuz shes a yapper

[proven token]

hello guys! am I missing something about the new tier effects? i just got 4pc and not pumping like before when i had 2-2 pieces

[cloud plover]

Woaw

I'm a yapper yipeee

[plain fiber]

How are we supposed to know with that information

My guess is that the people around u got 4 set aswell and now ur specc is mid

[round field]

Read a guide how to play it

[proven token]

i did and got this overall

[cloud plover]

consider not using one button rotation

[proven token]

not using it, does it looks like i am :C

[cloud plover]

oh, then maybe you should

[proven token]

[round field]

One button rotation does more...

Are you playing keeper or ec

[proven token]

i just tried on AoE dummies, 1button rotation does 6m and manual rotation 10m, and I'm playing EC

[round field]

Its not that big of a difference

But thats besides the point

Its hard to say

What youre doing wrong from a screenshot of a m+ overall

Theres not really a lot to fuck up as ec

[proven token]

yeah I understand, sadly i dont have logs of it but by looking at that overall could u tell is kinda low for a 698ilvl balance with parapodia and lily on Priory 9?

[round field]

Well my balance gear is 700 ilvl with house of cards and best in slot

And the last priory i did 9 million dos

It also depends on how long shit lives and how your tank pulls

Again not something you can really judge

But yes 4 million is like last season numbers

[plain fiber]

I think you need to relax and enjoy the game

And if u come up with an actual question then u can ask it

[cloud plover]

i love doing minigame dps i want to maximize my minigame dps output though

[round field]

Go grief hardmode or something

Stop talking

[proven token]

oh geez! definitely I am doing something wrong, gonna check rotation again, and i really appreciate your patience to explain to me even when i dont have logs or anything, cheers

[round field]

Rare moment

Usually i would insult you and leave

Lucky day for you

[proven token]

i did and i got answered, ty

[cloud plover]

making a log takes around one dungeon so you got this, you can run a quick one and be back soon so people can really help!

then that would be an optimal world

[round field]

Dungeon logs are also shit

Vods are better

[tulip minnow]

Hello is it just me or does it feels like that balance druids are really weak against single target?

[fathom nebula]

Pure ST?
Middle of the road? Slightly below average

10-15% below top specs maybe

[half junco]

Feel the same

[tulip minnow]

Yeah pure single target like patchwerk Bosses in M+ and raids I pretty much struggle to dps over 3 million

[fathom nebula]

Raid overall and Fractillus (which is pure ST no damage amps)

[cloud plover]

average balance druid in my keys

[pallid bay]

based

[tulip minnow]

Yeah okey i knew that we got nerfed pretty hard but now i know that we are in the same place as always, right in the bottom

[blazing pendant]

Fractillus (H) kill times (~4.5m) are probably a big part of boomy doing okay on that fight. Damage to bosses is probably a fairer overall measure of current performance.

[loud kettle]

damage to bosses is never a good measure

for st dam

[tulip minnow]

But Fr have played balance in every expansion except Vanilla and have always had 95+ parces but I most say that it really feels like we are at rock bottom in ST

[loud kettle]

Classes that cant aoe in raid will always be overranked, and classes that can will underperform in that statistic unless they are a cheat class that does both

[ivory tulip]

oof

[delicate perch]

why craft 1 item when can craft 2 items

@lyric kettle lifelined

[tulip minnow]

Yeah but usually we’ve Been solid in both ST and Aoe but now it’s purely Aoe

[loud kettle]

When was this 💀

[fathom nebula]

^ 😄

Venthyr Boomie

[loud kettle]

4 years ago

[fathom nebula]

1 time 4 years ago with pretty specific circumstances that just made us bonkers 😄

And.. are we even solid in AoE atm? Wont we fall further behind when mythic tier sets become the norm?

[lilac citrus]

Aoe is not that great even on bosses like soul hunters we are not in the top 5

[tulip minnow]

Yeah we need at least 10 mobs to excel on the Aoe

[quiet musk]

is 60% haste too much in combat?

[round field]

No

[scarlet tapir]

so what you want to do is garrote one, garrote two, garrote three, rupture vendetta exsanguinate! yeah? then you're gonna fok fok, rupture again, you're gonna vanish, reapply garrotes, especially on the target you don't have, and that's it, then you're gonna ct (crimson tempest). Look at my damage, right now, fucking 40k, it's fucking over dude. Oooh. How the fuck though LETS GO

[serene elk]

so in boomie
with the 4p, we prefer haste in m+ and crit in raid ?

or always mastery/haste ?

[deft granite]

Musclebrah

[scarlet tapir]

more like

fatbrah

[pseudo merlin]

always sim

[serene elk]

stats weight didnt work

[patent girder]

Hello guys, I have a question about a sim. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9ddziqkSzuyAxQLWyexRzJ Trying to sim the ring I got and the gems show Haste main stat. I should just follow this right?

[pseudo merlin]

you should never sim stat weights

use top gear and droptimizer

[pseudo merlin]

Show me the variables you used, normally you go with the results but it looks like you did something weird

using a rank 2 vers only gem?

You didn't click the replace existing option

You might want to add a socket to that first ring and then run a replace sim with proper gems, don't forget to select for the meta

you're also running a rank 2 single stat haste gem

[patent girder]

Yea, just wanted to put something to have it there whilst I find a better ring

[pseudo merlin]

That's fine

You still need to sim with the right options

You're not simming the meta properly

sec

You're also running cursed ring enchants

Make sure you sim those too, because that seems kinda sus but I might be wrong

[serene elk]

how signet of priory can sim better than lily ? cuz he give 700 less but for 5s more ( and 30s more cd)

( priory 701 and lily 710)

[open harbor]

quick question:
We play kotg full ST on Plexus, Loom'ithar, Soulbinder, Fractilus and Dimensius, kotg ST with cleave on Araz and Nexus-King, EC on Soul Hunter, right?
obviously it might change on mythic at some point and is dependant on group constellation but overall this seems legit, right?

[obsidian jetty]

it's within margin of error to use many different gems. Ultimately you'll never notice a difference, and the sim cannot tell you what is actually the "best" option as it's so minor and within margin of error.

generally the blue number will indicate that

[patent girder]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gVb9rQhK1afta8ViSGQB7M I ticked everything that is good and it is showing full haste. What am I missing here

[open harbor]

Wrong talents maybe?

[pseudo merlin]

you still didnt do what I said

[pseudo merlin]

.

But ignoring meta optimisation, a result like this isn't out of the ordinary

Like recruitie said gem sims are often just within margin of error

But you probably need to either optimise for meta or replace the meta

[open harbor]

EC sims better with haste than kotg. Change your talents to ST and kotg and it wont be that haste heavy

[pseudo merlin]

That too

[open harbor]

wondering why u guys suggest him to switch this and that in the gem section but not mentioning the talents 😄

[royal zenith]

cause he's specifically asking about the gems

[small siren]

anyone have a Threat Plates profile for tracking important Dots as Boomy for RBGs and Arena?

[royal zenith]

there's also no point in saying "if you swap to kotg it will be different gems"

[open harbor]

thats a really bad answer to why it wasn't mentioned 😄

[open harbor]

why

[royal zenith]

cause the first question you should ask is for which content they are simming

so you're all wrong

[open harbor]

EC for 5min 1 target patchwerk? there is no such content with that talent loadout

at least his talents

[round oracle]

no lust = haste most of the time

[obsidian jetty]

well, it's a video game and you can play whatever you like, first of all

so instantly assuming they are playing the wrong thing is silly. As duex asked you should probe for more info on what they want

[royal zenith]

the last sim, without all buffs, implies he wants to know - for M+ content

[obsidian jetty]

They're also 2p2p, so haste will probably sim good as Kotg as well, doubt it will be as stacked. I also am not even sure if 2p2p keeper sims better on ST. Never checked 1v1

[fathom nebula]

How do i set a specific sim time? I dont want 5 min +-20% but exactly 4 minutes as an example

[pseudo merlin]

Someone asks about a sim result and you see that they dont know how to sim, thats where you begin

Feel free to disagree

You can dm me any complaints

[royal zenith]

done

[obsidian jetty]

add

max_time=240```
to the footer of expert options

[pseudo merlin]

I will take it into consideration

[royal zenith]

[pseudo merlin]

Please allow 5-7 business days to process your request

[royal zenith]

by that time Ill be playing WoW AND POE2

too long

[pseudo merlin]

Real

[fathom nebula]

Thaaank you

[obsidian jetty]

240 as mentioned for 4m

[fathom nebula]

chatgpt gave me the wrong info and it ended uup with me asking this for a third time 😄

[jaunty blaze]

clanker was really sure tho

[mighty mica]

ew

[loud kettle]

humanising ai smh

[hollow mist]

[cloud plover]

stupid ass excuse of an ai it became dumber with the 5o model or whatever

[pseudo merlin]

It's now second nature for me to end every google query with -noai

wonder if there's a plugin for it

It's unreal how fucking stupid that google search ai is

[royal zenith]

good thing humans are very smart

to compensate

[pseudo merlin]

Actually it's probably not the AIs fault

People are stupid, it's just repeating what they're saying

[royal zenith]

it's just a system

and you should fact-check anything

regardless of it being AI, human or w.e.

[pseudo merlin]

Did you see the guy who flew to like thailand or some shit

without a visa

Because AI told him he didnt need one

[royal zenith]

no 💀

[pseudo merlin]

Bro found out when he arrived

[royal zenith]

yeah I mean people are also asking relationship advice

or thinking there's a humans stuck in the bot

this thing is unhealthy for humans

next generation is fucked

[pseudo merlin]

I think there was an anime about that

[royal zenith]

yeah 'Her'

[pseudo merlin]

ah

[royal zenith]

(not an anime)

[urban crescent]

wasn't there a case of a service pretending to use AI chat bots but actually outsourcing it to overseas workers

or was that also fake news

[royal zenith]

wouldn't be surprised

it's the buzzword and thing to sell rn

[urban crescent]

also i'm stealing this meme thanks

[royal zenith]

AI that is

[urban crescent]

i don't even know how AI is a buzzword

it doesn't even work

why are people glazing it so hard

[royal zenith]

yes but humans are an expensive resource

so companies will always want to replace them

[urban crescent]

oh so they just make people think they want AI so they can justify firing humans

that makes more sense

[pallid bay]

It seems like you're not in a position to determine if AI works or not

[urban crescent]

i suppose not

it doesn't work for asking it moderately complicated questions in my experience

but i guess that's not what it's being used for

[pseudo merlin]

I think it's just being used for generating gooning content

Like the internet

[royal zenith]

It's the same as using raidbots, plenty of people will find a way to not use it properly

[urban crescent]

the internet is for porn

as they say

[royal zenith]

not that hard to wrap your head around

[urban crescent]

as a wise man once said

[urban crescent]

BASED

[royal zenith]

damn

[urban crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[pseudo merlin]

Some people will somehow manage to bypass all the literal red flags and warning signs on raidbots, manage to track down the purposely hidden stat weight function, then sim stat weights and go into a class discord asking why the stat weight says the stat priority in <guide> is wrong

[urban crescent]

defeated by a clanker

:itsover:

stat weights

[pseudo merlin]

ok disregard all earlier messages, I love ai

[safe kite]

Getting bored running 10s for weekly I tried to run 1 floodgate with new 4 set as EC and one with the old 4 set from last season and I gained quite significant dps just running the old set. Up next 2p 2p, what an absolutely based season this is.

[pseudo merlin]

One single key is usually also my benchmark for any theorycrafting

[drifting nova]

how can someone be 3k

with a highest key of a 5 depleted

[craggy sonnet]

There is a secret trick and it usually involves you not updating your addon

[safe kite]

Yea nah for sure, it was based on the 80 or so runs after getting 4 set and feeling like it was a dps loss and it very much looks like it is at least in the dungeons with larger pulls, backed up by the fact that those logs that have been done show a vast majority of the top dmg logs being done by people not running EC 4 set kinda seals it for me. It's a good thing though, means I never have to touch the garbage that is EC 4-set for the rest of this expansion.

[pseudo merlin]

ah

[wild dune]

tragic if true

buff bamkin

[quiet drift]

What is this EC 4pc hate campaign

Last tier 4pc passive dmg = good

Current = bad

[fathom nebula]

Current is a ST tier set and we dont even pick Starsurge talents

In what universe is this good

[quiet drift]

Item level

Youre never dropping item level to get 2+2

[safe kite]

You sure as fuck are in weeklies. You don't nee the survivability

[quiet drift]

[safe kite]

Because it doesn't function in a way that is conducive to a healthy skill expression. It's a random proc that sometimes runs out on its own, most of the time runs out because of the group, and the only real way to use it properly is to force your tank to get a weakaura tracking your buff and recklessly pull based around it. It's the anti-thesis to a weel designed set and even on these boards with some of the most ardent try hards the overall opinion is to literally just ignore the buff because playing around it is not only hell but in most cases entirely futile.

[quiet drift]

?????????

2pc is a random proc shroom

That can also get kited out of

[delicate perch]

skill expression

nah that's bait

[quiet drift]

So much skill expression when one pull wild mushroom is my 2nd highest dmg

[safe kite]

Can you read what the 2 set does for me cotti

there is a very important part

that you seem to have missed

what happens when you press CA?

[delicate perch]

lmao

[quiet drift]

Xdd

[safe kite]

If using CA gave us 6 stacks of the buff, we wouldn't be talking. But it doesn't.

[delicate perch]

I wonder who the better balance druid is cotti or feirbawt

[quiet drift]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1C6TpnayYg4mDxFr?fight=50&type=damage-done

New 4pc does good dmg on my guy

[safe kite]

Fucking hate that being able to read is not a requirement to be here

[wild dune]

ok but the pwar breakdown is pretty funny ngl

[delicate perch]

[wild dune]

50% damage tied to pressing tclap

[drifting nova]

english pls I dont speak german

[round field]

theres no skill expression

in this spec

you either proc or u dont

[safe kite]

Reading is so hard.

[round field]

ok

whats ur point

rewrite it

[lucid olive]

If several people read what you say and have the same reaction, and you blame them for not being able to read, it is perhaps you not making your point clear enough

[indigo barn]

my only problem with tier EC, why the fuck is it 40% proc? such a random number

[round field]

its like

fake

i swear

ive gone

20 seconds of the buff

without getting a single proc

[safe kite]

Nobody claimed shrooms was skill based. It's a non random proc during CA and a random proc otherwise, you literally can not play around it or fail to play it. New set is 20 second buff that gets constantly fucked either by starfall not procing it, your group chilling and not setting up while your stacks are high, or not pulling when you desperately need to refresh it. Meaning that it's designed so that if you track it and try to play around it, it will just frustrate and fuck you over consistently, so much so that the general advice is to not even track it and just don't get ragebaited by it.

[round field]

i mean

you

just ignore it

[safe kite]

That's literally bad design.

[round field]

like the previous set

no shit

[safe kite]

That's literally the fucking point.

[round field]

bad design is a feature

[pseudo merlin]

I think I know the answer

[drifting nova]

both bad probs

[round field]

if you want something that is well designed

[lucid olive]

You had moments with old 2pc where it would proc on your first Moonfire in a dungeon and slow the mobs down and int your pull

[round field]

youi dont play this game

[round field]

ive had it asspull mobs

that werent supposed to be

[safe kite]

This is true, that was cringe but at least that doesn't happen 20 times in a dungeon

[lucid olive]

It is also hilarious you go after cotti for disagreeing and calling him bad when he's a better player than most people here

[safe kite]

I love the fact that we are still moving away from the point of the 4 set being a terribly designed set.

[round field]

i mean

[safe kite]

I have not called him bad though have I?

[wild dune]

https://tenor.com/view/moving-goalposts-goalposts-changing-requirements-gif-25214446

[safe kite]

I said he couldn't read, and that's true.

[quiet drift]

I dont disagree w it being bad

[round field]

telll me one set

[pseudo merlin]

not better than me

[lucid olive]

What's this

[round field]

that wasnt badly designed

[wild dune]

df s1

[quiet drift]

Im disagreeing saying dropping the 4pc is a good idea

[safe kite]

How is that calling him bad?

[lucid olive]

You can pretend you don't hear the dog whistle

But it's still a dog whistle

[safe kite]

Ok do you?

[lucid olive]

No I'm not a dog

[safe kite]

Do you need the survivability in a 10?

[royal zenith]

@cloud plover is the dog

[wild dune]

do you need the damage?

[round field]

old 4 set is not more damage than new set...

[scarlet tapir]

ur wrong

[maiden pasture]

df s1 set was designed badly, there was just a bug which made it good

[scarlet tapir]

old set is same damage as new set (class sucks so both do 0 dmg)

[quiet drift]

+1

Ilvl and sim

[drifting nova]

copege

[safe kite]

It's just weird simping at this point.

[round field]

well yeah

cotti > piss random

thats how it works

[safe kite]

The only thing we've disagreed on is if you need the survivability of your 4 set in a 10.

everything else was just simps going crazy thinking I called someone bad.

When I didn'

t

[drifting nova]

if you dont need surv

are you pulling enough?

[pseudo merlin]

Don't need survivability in a 10?

Try doing sentinels in ecodome

[drifting nova]

saw a jank pull in hoa yday

[craggy sonnet]

?

[drifting nova]

pulled the central packs

[safe kite]

I'm at 704, if I die in a +10 it's my fault at this point.

[drifting nova]

it confused me

[pseudo merlin]

what central packs

[drifting nova]

EXACTLY

[pseudo merlin]

the entire dungeon is played in the center

[lucid olive]

That shit is so free on guardian

[pseudo merlin]

No like what the fuck are you talking about

[drifting nova]

no...no

[round field]

whats the point of this then

[drifting nova]

go right, get guardian, loop back go left

[pseudo merlin]

every god damn time I tank ecodome my entire group just stacks in the purple pools

and dies

I'm so sick of it

[lucid olive]

Gg..

[drifting nova]

the central packs as in before the stairs

before going down

the mobs I've never in my life killed

(yes he was like 10% over pull)

[pseudo merlin]

you mean at the start

before you go left

you just go straight ahead?

[drifting nova]

..right

[pseudo merlin]

what

[drifting nova]

[pseudo merlin]

wait

[lucid olive]

Waiting

[pseudo merlin]

this is my route

point out on the route where the mobs hurt you Kekkers

[royal zenith]

nice eco dome

[drifting nova]

these plebs here

[pseudo merlin]

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOA

[drifting nova]

NOT EVEN IN YOUR ROUTE

SEEE

as you look forward

[pseudo merlin]

you could have just said yes

[drifting nova]

you said left

but you go right first

smh

[pseudo merlin]

Yes

[drifting nova]

my head

I just vibe with the tank idk

[pseudo merlin]

I have to constantly remind myself that everything you say is a bit

[drifting nova]

hence why it confused me

[pseudo merlin]

Or I will lose my fucking mind

[royal zenith]

bad route

grabbing a gargoyle

yuckie

[pseudo merlin]

wrong

[drifting nova]

it's not on your route

[safe kite]

And you all jumped on me when I claimed none of you could read.

[lucid olive]

Yeah that route sucks

[drifting nova]

I've never seen those packs pulled

[pseudo merlin]

OK

[wild dune]

we've moved on bro

[drifting nova]

in my life

[pseudo merlin]

We are not here to criticise my pug friendly route

WE were dogpiling kekkers

and feirbawt

[drifting nova]

lemme try remember the packs he pulled

[lucid olive]

If my pug tank does that route I will not be friendly

[pseudo merlin]

???????

Ok what do you want me to do

[lucid olive]

[neat horizon]

Its been more than 10 minutes, can someone please ask a question about gear so I can tell you to sim it? I'm getting the shakes

[pseudo merlin]

don't sim, use stat weights

[safe kite]

Should I still be using Jastor Diamond and Mug Jug?

[neat horizon]

Sim it

[lucid olive]

No

[pseudo merlin]

probably

[neat horizon]

Thank you ugh 🚬

[pseudo merlin]

im not replacing jastor till like mythic raid ring

[lucid olive]

Mug probably, Jastor not if it doesn't get fixed

[drifting nova]

[pseudo merlin]

Kekkers

[drifting nova]

brother was overpulling for next dungeon

[pseudo merlin]

wait

[drifting nova]

I DONT KNOW

he pulled like 4 little goblin packs

that stand at the dge

[lucid olive]

Go look at your latest raid log, see how many people are using Jastor, and then go look at how many people actually had the buff during a pull, and how bad the uptime is

[upper surge]

If you time a 15 with 200% forces killed you get a handshake from Metzen

[pseudo merlin]

wait

it's fucked?

damnit

[safe kite]

Stat weights is telling me int is my worst stat, should I be going for agility instead?

[loud kettle]

Real ones dont get the bug so

[fickle grail]

its just crazy no? i had 4-5 min pulls, with 0 uptime on buf

c r a z y

[pseudo merlin]

strength

[lucid olive]

We had 25 people with Jastor on Soul Hunters this week, 13 people with buff

[pseudo merlin]

what the

[safe kite]

ah righto.

[lucid olive]

Like 6 of those 13 people had 80%+ uptime and the others had like 5%

[pseudo merlin]

ok that's fucked

when did this start

[lucid olive]

With patch presumably

[safe kite]

wait, this requires investigation.

[pseudo merlin]

fml

[royal zenith]

does it?

maybe the investigation has already been done

[lucid olive]

It has been investigated and uuuh unequip or play proc lottery

[royal zenith]

you're behind by a week give or take if you dont know about it

[pseudo merlin]

Do we have a number on how much the proc is worth

[royal zenith]

by now

[dense steeple]

Ok tough guy

[loud kettle]

Ur already playing the lottery anyway

[drifting nova]

need a var check

[loud kettle]

Just commit

[royal zenith]

[pseudo merlin]

The lottery I'm playing is whether or not I get to raid in a tier, given I play boomie and ret

🙂

🙃

[loud kettle]

Yea ret is so unplayable rn

[pseudo merlin]

THANK YOU

Finally someone who agrees

[royal zenith]

poor ret

[pseudo merlin]

Crazy how the ferals are the sane ones

[loud kettle]

Needs nerfed by 20% to be playable

[pseudo merlin]

uhm???????

[loud kettle]

(;

[pseudo merlin]

i might swap to feral

[lucid olive]

His name isn't sanemeow is it..

[pseudo merlin]

but the feral compendium is so bad

[drifting nova]

does obr ret have more buttons than ret normally?

[loud kettle]

ya main reason id suggest not going feral tbh

[pseudo merlin]

real

[loud kettle]

The resources suck

[pseudo merlin]

IS anyone even maintaining them?

(doesnt look like it)

[loud kettle]

not sure

[safe kite]

I mean if I'm the one stealing the uptime it requires absolutely no investigation and everything is fine. If I'm the one getting stolen from we need to riot.

[pseudo merlin]

Depends on how you define buttons

[drifting nova]

divine storm

D I V I N E S T O R M

[lucid olive]

Spotify is blessing me today

[drifting nova]

and again

[pseudo merlin]

you should be playing ret kekkers

[drifting nova]

my first char was a paladin 🙂

[pseudo merlin]

Did you quit because it was too hard?

[drifting nova]

all those moons ago

I.. solo healed a giga boomer raid on hc ..so no?

[lucid olive]

My first character was a paladin too

[pseudo merlin]

my first character was a feral druid

in 2005

[lucid olive]

Female draenei paladin on a WOTLK private server

[pseudo merlin]

I saw the OG wow cinematic of that night elf jumping into a puddle of water and transforming into a panther

[drifting nova]

I guess technically speaking my first char was a tauren druid but it was a trial acc so

[pseudo merlin]

and I was instantly hooked on the fantasy

Then once I reached like level 8 after 10 hours of playing

[quiet drift]

Tauren hunter

[pseudo merlin]

My friend called me gay for not being horde

[safe kite]

a furry awakening

[pseudo merlin]

So I went horde

But I didnt want to be a cow

So I stopped playing druid

[quiet drift]

Killing myself to call my pet in the spirit realm

[pseudo merlin]

Wait is that actually waht tauren hunters do?

[quiet drift]

Idk

My guy did that

[pseudo merlin]

[quiet drift]

The pet did not come back

And went next tauren hunter

[pseudo merlin]

I think that's on Blizzard

Not on you

[quiet drift]

Real

[loud kettle]

My first character was a night elf priest

[pseudo merlin]

I forgot what nightelves had

starshards?

fear ward?

[quiet drift]

Fear ward was dwarf

Iirc

[pseudo merlin]

oh right

[drifting nova]

holy based level20 spell

[minor condor]

Is jastor still bugged inside manaforge?

[cloud plover]

[fossil flame]

howdy guys good afternoon

[harsh jungle]

when is the discord getting shut down?

[dense steeple]

Were not babies we wont shut down

[craggy sonnet]

on soulbinder .. do you hold double ca for 2nd add spawns at 4:30 or just send earlier? seems kinad tight to get in another ca convoke until boss dies

no way - top logs on soulbinder play ec 💀

[lucid olive]

are the other people hitting the adds in those logs

[craggy sonnet]

hmmm

prolly not as much as they could

[lucid olive]

yeee idk

maybe its an EC fight

its a meme fight anyway

1 pull prog fight

[craggy sonnet]

yea

its pad anyways

was just looking for the timers and saw almost no convokes on lorrgs

[quiet drift]

You can do competitive damage w Kotg

Boss is getting removed off Allstar sooner of later

[craggy sonnet]

not gonna play ec, all good

on araz generally worth to send a CA late into collectors to get 4 dryad surges into amp?

in both intermissions?

[digital berry]

It’s… tight

You have to bank on the fact that your team will kill them within 10 seconds once you make the decision

Also it takes like 3 seconds for amp to start

[craggy sonnet]

Yea, I saw that. Maybe I will just try to feel out the timing and then adjust if it's not consistent.

[tacit heath]

quick question, my second CA charge, do i use it before or after my 2 starsurges at the end of my window?

[quiet drift]

Before

You want the Boat crit for them

and Dryad dmg

[vagrant prawn]

looking at logs for dimensious on archon its showing all the people popping incarn at start and then 2 more within 20 seconds, are they popping before they go over or that just a visual bug?

[lofty depot]

Well u use 2 at the start, 1 at 2m or if ur too fast u hold the 2m one

[craggy sonnet]

@jolly delta why can i only export to MRT from the timeline planner but not import, grr .. want to save setups

[lofty depot]

But 2 more withing 20 seconds is a visual bug probably. Which u should just use lorrgs or look at logs instead of use archon

[crude turtle]

is it worth do equip old 2p with new 2p tierset?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[tacit heath]

so should it overlap ever so slightly with my first CA or right as it ends?

[lofty depot]

Yes

U should read the guide

[tacit heath]

i have but it isnt clear

[craggy sonnet]

depends on your FoN timing

you want to make sure both surges go inside FoN buff and are right at the start of 2nd CA

but generally you do overlap CAs

[tacit heath]

so it may overlap depending on the exact timing

cool thank you, the guide wasnt completely clear on that

[craggy sonnet]

it usually does

unless you delayed FoN for some reason

[jolly delta]

added it to the backlog

[jolly delta]

hopefully in september I'll have more time

[craggy sonnet]

nice 😄

ok, dont stress it

not important

[lofty depot]

It's almost september

Surely he means next week

[vagrant prawn]

see how they are all using incarn at start and then again twice within 15~ seconds

[tepid basalt]

Hey guys, got a question about araz trinket, is it worth to use it to up the intel pool and make the intel cap of the 4p bonus higher ? (like we did with bear morph on the end of the dryad before modification)

[craggy sonnet]

thats why its good

[tepid basalt]

But you still using it on incarn's use or you delay it to get as much intel as posible at the end of the first dryad ?

[jolly delta]

yeah I mean next week

after I finish PoE's patch

[lofty depot]

yea theyre not using ca at the very start

but yes they are using a 2nd ca at 15

but again, ur using a shitty site to see those uses

and should stop using it

[exotic storm]

lol, even the champ boots proc increase feels nutty

[lofty depot]

use it on ca cuz u get it with convoke as well

[tepid basalt]

Aight thanks you

[upper surge]

Are dots ALWAYS worth it for mastery damage buff if they don't tick for long? If you have a high prio add that doesn't instantly disappear but also doesn't live too long do you dot it before doing anything else, even if it's just gonna be like 5-6 seconds of fighting?

I know the easy answer would be "just hit boss, let burst specs deal with it" but that's not realy an option in pugs

[upper surge]

Thank you

[tame dome]

World first over now. Balance buffs when???

[lofty depot]

next week forsure

[tame dome]

What would be your ideal version of buffs for balance?

[upper surge]

delete other classes

[lofty depot]

well, the problem is what i think isnt gonna happen because they dont ever put us in the top mid of classes

but even though we dont really do damage to adds in raid and were only generally doing ST/boss dam, were not even the middle to top in that

[drifting nova]

is there a site for key overall dam

rio does not have it

[lofty depot]

bottom in overall damage, meaning both cleave and boss dam

kinda tied with 4-5 other specs for just terrible boss dam

[tame dome]

I’d like to see starsurge buffed by 20% and I’d like it to cleave to 3 stacked targets

[lofty depot]

and i would prefer if theyh didnt buff EC again

[craggy sonnet]

@lofty depot have you been prepping for forgeweaver?

[tame dome]

I quite enjoy both hero talents but I don’t like the poor cool-down sync of trees

[gaunt lantern]

please buff ec. like 200-300% please and thank you

[formal crest]

You’re so bald man

[lofty depot]

kinda, why

was gonna try out EC

see if i hate it

[formal crest]

I hate it in raid

[tame dome]

I also prefer no convole

[craggy sonnet]

wondering about grove inspiration vs potent on that fight and CA late in intermissions

[tame dome]

Convoke

[craggy sonnet]

are you sure you are talking about forgeweaver?

[lofty depot]

uhh didnt i send u the cd thing

[lofty depot]

yes

[jaunty blaze]

what are you gonna do with ec on last phase

[craggy sonnet]

you wanna play ec on forgeweaver

no way

[lofty depot]

in liquid max words "game"

[craggy sonnet]

yea, probably .. but i cant remember and your opinion might have changed

[jaunty blaze]

game

[craggy sonnet]

last phase is super short anyways after nerfs

[formal crest]

The levels of cringe are breaking records rn

[craggy sonnet]

so thats not an issue

but EC is just pad on that fight

[jaunty blaze]

and you do nothing during amp

[lofty depot]

ah i didnt show

one sec

[lofty depot]

so what, im killing adds

[craggy sonnet]

adds are free

[jaunty blaze]

but not even good

[lofty depot]

guilds that dont have 3 ele's or 3 locks

[jaunty blaze]

like

whats your job then

[lofty depot]

kill adds dork

thats my job 😉

but idk it depends if its a problem or not

[jaunty blaze]

surely that 20% starfall buff next week will come in handy

[royal zenith]

😉

[craggy sonnet]

theoretically getting 4 dryad surges into amp has gotta be more dam right?

compared to playing grove inspo

[lofty depot]

yea, but i play around my guilds ability to do things

[craggy sonnet]

and your guild is not capable to cleaving adds?

[lofty depot]

u can do double surges into amp regardless

this is without potent

[formal crest]

Creep

[lofty depot]

https://tenor.com/view/tlc-creep-90s-music-dancing-so-i-creep-gif-17860661

[royal zenith]

😮

[craggy sonnet]

yes .. but 2nd amp

[lofty depot]

whens htat

[craggy sonnet]

shortly after 6min

[upper surge]

How do you even fix not being able to deal with adds well without changing encounter design?

[lofty depot]

is it 30 seconds after 6m

or is it 610

[lofty depot]

u dont, some classes should be worse at add damage than others

the problem is when those other classes arent good at anything else

and the ones that are good at add damage are also good at boss damage while losing nothing to do add damage

[craggy sonnet]

more like 6:10

[lofty depot]

ye late

[craggy sonnet]

i know

[lofty depot]

with potent its probably right on time

[craggy sonnet]

i do be using the planner

[lofty depot]

2nd is very tight

[craggy sonnet]

with potent its super easy

[lofty depot]

ye

[lofty depot]

so yea, that would be hte idea is use potent assuming u get double amp

[craggy sonnet]

but idk if thats enough of a gain to win out over grove insp

(not that grove insp is big dam but its something)

[dry compass]

Spriests used to suffer from the same exact problem as boomkin and then they gave them shadow crash and suddenly that problem was much smaller

Encounter design is only one half of the equation

[jaunty blaze]

the problem is our aoe spender does fuck all

[lofty depot]

well its 4% when u get an extra one

so its gotta be more when u get extra one on amp

[dry compass]

Aff lock has the same exact problem but they have two other specs they can roll that don't suffer from it at all

[lofty depot]

and then u still get a single ca + convoke during the last phase at whenever u want 8m

[dry compass]

You can redesign our mastery and solve the problem instantly

But then the DoTs suddenly become a very awkward part of the kit

[craggy sonnet]

boss prolly dead before then

[lofty depot]

well they can have a talent be that dots increase ur damage to said target

[dry compass]

Because they do piss damage and without enabling mastery they aren't worth casting if the target isn't going to live the full duration

[lofty depot]

rather than it be hte mastery

[royal zenith]

it was never awkward in shadowlands

just something you want to have on at all times

[dry compass]

So you'd have to make significant changes to shift more damage into the dots

[royal zenith]

and there's still WT

[craggy sonnet]

if you do the 4 surges into amp its prolly also worth to have all 4 during trees, hey?

[lofty depot]

oh araz 630 or 7m fight?

[craggy sonnet]

like 7m

[dry compass]

With sunseeker and smolder you might not bother applying moonfire because you don't need it for waning

In aoe scenarios

[royal zenith]

yeah but that's a good thing

[dry compass]

Neither of those existed in shadowlands

[royal zenith]

but in that case you would create talents making dots more impactful

and they still generate ASP

[upper surge]

remove dots

[royal zenith]

there's a ton of talents linked to dots

changing mastery so you can actually target swap is a good thing

[dry compass]

Meh, AsP generation is already very high and spender damage is so pisslow I don't think dot asp generation is actually that valuable

[royal zenith]

it definitely is, for movement

that's the whole reason they changed it or made it generate more

[lofty depot]

ur also forgetting shooting stars

[fossil hemlock]

You're talking about changing mastery completely, surely spenders could also be retuned at the same hypothetical update?

[lofty depot]

which does like 8% of ur dam

[upper anvil]

do we get a quest for resi keys again?

[royal zenith]

it's not just a mastery change, it's a whole philosophy change of the spec

which I would always root for

[dry compass]

Yes, the point overall was that redesigning mastery would necessitate significant additional changes to the spec and isnt a quick fix

Man auto correct wrecked that sentence

[lofty depot]

well thats why they cant do it in the middle of the expansion because were not shadow priest

they can do random shit to shadow priest every patch for fun

[upper surge]

So question for people who have played this spec when it wasn't meh, when was it good and what made it good?

[lofty depot]

moonkin "oh its a give problem and needs an big expansion release and blah blah"

[fossil hemlock]

Don't worry, new DH spec throws stars so surely moonkin is being reworked

[royal zenith]

well we keep coping they do it during a new expansion

but jackshit has changed for 4 years

[safe kite]

Ravenous Frenzy

[royal zenith]

3 years *

[lofty depot]

SL and dragon flight

[dry compass]

Different iterations were good for different reasons and you'll get lots of different answers

Frenzy is extremely popular because it was immensely powerful and game warping

[upper surge]

was there a niche the spec fell into though?

[dry compass]

I'm a big fan of WoD boomie because it was extremely rhythmic, had one of the higher levels of skill expression, and machine gunning starsurges was always fun

[lofty depot]

heavy heavy burst

[exotic storm]

SIN CURVE

I loved WoD

[lofty depot]

and then 0 dps for 2 minutes

[safe kite]

It was also actually fun to play with

[dry compass]

Boomies niche has always been two things, spread cleave and extremely bursty single target

[royal zenith]

not frontloaded burst and it was 3 minutes

[upper surge]

Feels like we do the bursting now but mostly because of set

[dry compass]

Not always both at the same time, but always at least one of those

[royal zenith]

in current fight designs it's ass

[lofty depot]

yea its not even close to the same

SL u were miles a head of people for full minutes

right now, my feral catches me after 30 seconds

[dry compass]

Current tier set is bursty but like... 20% of what a good frenzy ramp got you

[upper surge]

I only healed during SL but I remember everyone wanting boomkins for every kind of content

[exotic storm]

I still haven't forgiven Owls for ruining Kyrian

[lofty depot]

ruining

hm

[dry compass]

Blame @wicked shuttle

[royal zenith]

no it was balance druid in general

[lucid olive]

classic kyle take

[royal zenith]

it fucked over resto druids

he's right

[exotic storm]

You got it nerfed for bears.

[royal zenith]

and/or bears I guess

[dry compass]

Adaptive swarm was so peak for resto tho

[lofty depot]

imagine choosing to be a bear playing kyrian rather than other druid specs playing night fae

L for u ig

[royal zenith]

adaptive swarm and kyrian are fun concepts

[dry compass]

I miss swarm on resto

[safe kite]

Venthyr bear was peak content

[dry compass]

The fact that feral got to keep it but resto lost it is a crime

[upper surge]

the ability feels very resto-y

[warm meteor]

Got a question about bursting in big pulls in m+, after you dot everything etc and press your CDs, by then you sometimes have so much so that is it worth it to spend it on Starfire or should you just spam Starfire or try to not cap it, basically going cap->starfall->Starfire into cap and repeat?

[lofty depot]

u need to not cap asp

[dry compass]

Your tier set won't proc if you're capped so never cap

[lofty depot]

if u dont uncap, starfire doesnt proc 2p

[warm meteor]

So basically do the last point of the message?

[safe kite]

Why are you pooling to cap for?

[warm meteor]

Asking mainly when you are in the point where everything is off and you gain so much ap that a single Starfire caps you, kinda that scenario

[lofty depot]

as stated, u need to not be capped when u cast starfire

[safe kite]

The point is to get starfalls off so you play around that. I find it very unlikely where I would ever be in a scenario where i can't cast starfall but a Starfire would somehow overcap me

[craggy sonnet]

no thats not the point

starfire is more dam than starfall

hence you spam starfire

and only starfall to not cap

or build starlord

[warm meteor]

Didn't say you can't cast SF, rather if it's worth casting as many Starfire's as possible during your CD

[radiant wyvern]

is it safe to assume the gearset used in the simc sims is our BiS for ST KotG for the season?

[safe kite]

No, because of the set.

[lofty depot]

no

[warm meteor]

Ic

[lofty depot]

the gearset is just something that was used when simming and there can be differences or flaws in it

[radiant wyvern]

I see, thanks!

[lofty depot]

u do want as many starfires in cds as possible

u still need to not be capped when casting starfire

[lucid olive]

BiS gear profiles don't really exist, there are several different items that are all within margin of error

the profiles used in sims like that are just defaults used when simming different APL options and talents etc in order to keep the results as accurate as possible

[safe kite]

You want as many starfires that generate astral power as possible I guess would be the correct phrasing.

[lucid olive]

and wowhead "bis gear" profiles also just use those to clickbait on their website

[lofty depot]

sure, but thats what i said in 2 sentences

but u also just shouldnt be overcapping asp ever

thats a condition always

[upper surge]

So as long as it generates at least some astral power starfire is better than starfall?

Even if it's like 1 astral power?

[tropic pollen]

How do we handle swapping to shortlived prio targets? I feel like I struggle to get rolling against things like the Pulsar at the end of Gambit, the spirit in eco-dome, and the adds that spawn on the first boss in ecodome. It feels clunky trying to dot and then build astral power (I guess I could track timers more closely and make sure I'm pooled).

[lofty depot]

yes but u shouldve probably spent 2 starfalls in that situation

[safe kite]

We don't really.

[craggy sonnet]

is that even true for ec anymore?

[lofty depot]

preferrably the boss in ecodome is in the middle of the 2 adds and u can sunfire ontop of said boss

[lofty depot]

read the 2p

[lucid olive]

Sunfire boss, Moonfire add

[upper surge]

moonfire son or sunfire daughter?

[lucid olive]

how many of you have figured out last boss in Eco-Dome does the same pattern every time

[safe kite]

My teammates havn't figured out that you need to pick up the echo thing that is on the dmg slice first let alone that the fight is almost entirely scripted.

[lucid olive]

on the intermission you pick up the 3 ghosts in the same pattern every time

Furthest from entrance ghost first and then go right

[craggy sonnet]

no , i meant not spend if the next starfire would cap you as long as you stay under cap

[safe kite]

For sure, it's just that every group I'm in someone is typing about the encounter being bugged because they didn't pick the ghost on the dmg slice up before she went boom.

[upper surge]

It's really always the same pattern?

[digital berry]

You will have to spend eventually

[upper surge]

It's not a big deal tbh but it is very lame

[craggy sonnet]

yea, but overcapping slightly means less ap to spend so more starfire

[lofty depot]

i mean yea, but hes saying gain 1 asp

which means ur then losing some

[slow quail]

Now that rwf is over when we getting our buff?

[digital berry]

My last key I realize I was bothered by the fact I had to spend asp, what a shitty ass tier set

[supple haven]

[safe kite]

Tomorrow.

[craggy sonnet]

which might be good?

[safe kite]

I wonder if they added the have to generate astral power clause just so that there was no way we would just stop using astral power and just starfire only.

[craggy sonnet]

but its kinda random anyways with shroom procs and shooting stars

[craggy sonnet]

thats exactly why its there

[digital berry]

There was 0 reason the 2p didn’t trigger on starfall instead of starfire

It would make spending feel so much better even with the Lower dps on starfall

[safe kite]

Imagine the glory of starfall triggering a starsurge on every target. I don't care how nerfed it would be, I would just want that visual.

[upper surge]

doesn't help in ST

[safe kite]

If I'm pressing Starfire in single target as EC just make me press starfall in single target as well.

[lofty depot]

love that boomkin niche in raid they seem to think we have

[royal zenith]

are those destro's just bolting?

cause that's insane damage for a 2 target cleave

[safe kite]

It's just wither dmg

[upper surge]

kinda lame tbh

[royal zenith]

"just wither dmg"

that's one ability that clears our whole kit

wdym "just wither damage"

[lofty depot]

must be nice pressing a button 25 times in a fight and being #`1

[safe kite]

Before you get worked up you're reading it wrong

[royal zenith]

ah

[upper surge]

I think he meant "just" as "excluisvely"

[safe kite]

It's in response to the guy asking if it was chaos bolt

[royal zenith]

yeah that's me

do you even read?

:' )

[safe kite]

Never

I'm a boomkin I can't read

[royal zenith]

that's too ironic

[safe kite]

as "dot class" i too would like a single dot that does 50% of my dmg. Hell I wouldn't even be that greedy make sunfire do 25 and moonfire 25.

[royal zenith]

no just make starfall good

but my guess is they won't do that cause M+ and cry

[dry compass]

25 wither presses is high

You're generally applying with soul fire or cataclysm and not wither itself

[exotic storm]

Wither damage increases based on you doing your rotation, you can't just cast wither and afk

[dry compass]

Yeah the dot itself isn't doing that damage the blackened soul effect is

[lofty depot]

120 starfalls to do half the damage

actually i thikn its like 1/3

[nova ocean]

Race is over were our buffs reee

[dry compass]

I'm not saying the tuning is good, just that the number of casts of wither has nothing whatsoever to do with how much damage it deals

If you put 25 withers and nothing else you're gonna do 1% the damage of 120 starfalls

[drifting nova]

[royal zenith]

well that's besides the point

we were talking about balance druids niche

in that regard it would make more sense if Affli would be topping soulhunters

[dry compass]

Affi was topping until they nerfed it

And I think I've been on several rants now about how we're not even a top 3 class on the spread cleave council boss of this tier

Nexus King should've been an amazing fight for us as well

Add phase lives long enough for dot value, big damage amp to sent burst into

And yet

[drifting nova]

niches dont exist

too much work

why soul hunters doesnt share is my biggest quesiton tbh

[lofty depot]

u never want to be considered "the aoe" class

[main narwhal]

U mean lower alpha? Like seethrough? Or do u mean a different/darker color
My alpha is lower for oor and los, nothing with combat afaik

Also hey moonkin friends, sucks to be us right now

[lofty depot]

nono were fine

krona played boomkin for 1 pull on dimmy

were so back

[main narwhal]

[lofty depot]

speaking of which, since tettles isnt taking on the kalamazi role. can u?

[pseudo merlin]

Chat

what is this ball

is that Dimmy`?

[lofty depot]

need the 5+ videos of "boomkin needs buffs" "are the buffs enough?" "wee need more buffs"

[lofty depot]

Doug Dimmydome?

[pseudo merlin]

He eventually figured it out, it had to do with nameplates changing for targets not in combat with you and apparently target dummies counted as not in combat with you

[pseudo merlin]

yeah

[main narwhal]

I would, but we could do less dmg than a naked holypriest and if id ask for buffs ppl would hate in the comments
I think id get less hate if i start uploading videos about controversial political opinions

[lofty depot]

[normal pilot]

recall naguura?

[drifting nova]

pol arc

[dry compass]

Vid title: buff boomkin and free Palestine comments section: disaster

[main narwhal]

Hahahaha

[safe kite]

Theoretically if you could carry a Boomkin to the Dimensius P3 surely the dmg amp would be enough for us to actually have impact in that phase right?

[drifting nova]

so whens cloak upgrade

swear I've done everything

and nada

[muted spoke]

For the elune chosen build with 2 charges of incarn

am I sending both charges at the same time?

or using 1 at a time?

[safe kite]

Are you asking if they stack?

or if you use them one after another?