balance

[lofty depot]

Even worse

[digital berry]

The only thing you have control over is how you play if you want to do top damage just reroll FOTM

[safe kite]

It means you are missing out 24% dmg on your only 2 things that deal dmg, that's craaazy

[lofty depot]

Not double ca-ing either

[silk acorn]

You linking random hc/normal logs? Idk what you're proving here

[lofty depot]

That's from ur loom'ithar prog

[safe kite]

Apparently all you have to do is throw a tantrum the second you end up in the bottom half and apparently you get 5% buff.

[lofty depot]

Keep deflecting tho

[silk acorn]

I'm deflecting? xD

[silk acorn]

I trolled cuz that fight is cringe

[lofty depot]

Oh, ok

[ebon elm]

lmao

this is top tier entertainment

[silk acorn]

Agree

[digital berry]

there’s no way you were comparing our damage profile to warlock damage profile on that fight

[silk acorn]

Yeah you're right cringe af from me

[lofty depot]

Well no I was talking about this when I posted said picture

[silk acorn]

Dimensious mythic only real comparison

[verbal hornet]

Double CA in pull is always better than waiting for the second trees with your 2nd CA?
I wonder if your two surge can be launched at the final 2sec of CA when dryades fades or if the second one count out of the CA window with travel time or anything

[lofty depot]

It's ok bunny, I believe in u.

[silk acorn]

ty man u2

[lofty depot]

Boat window better

[lofty depot]

But u better figure out ur rotation, cuz ur other boomkin is doing it correctly

Gl

[silk acorn]

tyty

Thing is

[iron chasm]

Ppl hate boomkins bc people like you play the spec

[silk acorn]

Have had my tierset for like 30 mins, and had 0 research into it

[lofty depot]

I can tell the 0 research part

[silk acorn]

so I don't really care much man, just let me play, keep deflecting, I see you write to much shit in this discord it's crazy

Enjoy man

[digital berry]

Then why are you bitching in here as if that’s gonna give you more dmg

[royal zenith]

yeah same

[digital berry]

You want to do more dmg? Reroll, balance is not in a great state in raid right now

[royal zenith]

I think I will just time you out if you start relying more and more on normal logs

[drifting nova]

stares in warrior

[lofty depot]

U gonna time me out

[royal zenith]

ye

[lofty depot]

Hmm

[ebon elm]

Guys different topic, have you had your dryad die to some mechanics already?

[lofty depot]

I didn't post normal logs that time tho

[drifting nova]

idk what a dryad is

[royal zenith]

[drifting nova]

some typa horse?

[jaunty blaze]

it can die?

[harsh jungle]

when should u double ca?

[safe kite]

She got stuck in a wall, and couldn't cast once.

[jaunty blaze]

[lofty depot]

On opener and at 4m

[harsh jungle]

like just send both at the same time?

[royal zenith]

preferably

[lofty depot]

If the fight only lasts like 330, u hold 2m

[iron chasm]

As u get your first dryads favour from first ca

[lofty depot]

Read the guide

[royal zenith]

on NM you can hold 1 charge of CA and send everything in damage amps

will probably be the same for HC at some point

[harsh jungle]

yea this is what ive been doing i was just wondering if something changed

[lofty depot]

U press CA at the end of ur first one with trees till up to get buffed surges in the new window

[royal zenith]

timers atm for hc are in limbo

[harsh jungle]

yea yea then i understand i just missunderstood

[lofty depot]

Yea he was sending CA old way

And I said ur not double caing

[iron chasm]

This week felt awful with hc timers

[lofty depot]

Yea like 20-30s off

Giga annoying

[royal zenith]

yeah it's terrible

nexus king is also just

insanely bad

[iron chasm]

Peaking damage with the double ca makes it real yuck on fast kills

[royal zenith]

dimensius is aight

[lofty depot]

Nexus king big fun

[iron chasm]

Dimensius you got the whole intermissions to just sit on it right

So it feels fine just using trees

[royal zenith]

you can probably pop one quickly on 1st platfor

m

1 charge that is

[iron chasm]

I thought about it but the first platform felt like it just exploded

[lofty depot]

Send on CD, and don't pick up stellar cores

[iron chasm]

Last phase felt alright double caing and then having a voke/ca for right near the end but I can imagine this week coming I won’t get another convoke off

I double tapped ca this week on nexus king amp so basically went afk at that point

[heady sentinel]

Bruh wtf

[royal zenith]

I miss venthyr...

please make it do even more dam....

[lofty depot]

I'm gonna post the graph

[leaden birch]

it's my turn to post the graph!

[heady sentinel]

I thought we couldn't be worse than last season.

but yes we can

[royal zenith]

it's a sorry state

[lofty depot]

I'm gonna do it

[vital shard]

Yeah if you play with people who know what to press, than you should normally be at the lower end in the logs

[royal zenith]

imagine being mid on nm

[safe kite]

the tier set does feel like less fun RF

[royal zenith]

down at the bottom on heroic

[vital shard]

we should also do it like the rets and just close everything 😄

[royal zenith]

(which includes dh fights)

[vital shard]

maybe we wioll get a buff for whining

[royal zenith]

and being doggie doo doo on mythic

[royal zenith]

agree

it's cause it doesn't rely on haste

which makes it feel real bad

[harsh jungle]

surely we will get buffed

[lofty depot]

Doesn't scale far enough

[drifting nova]

show the real graph

[lofty depot]

Cap is cringe

[harsh jungle]

100% agreed

[digital berry]

Are you guys building a second set for soul hunters?

[drifting nova]

a blue spec

[lofty depot]

U mean m+

Yes

[royal zenith]

of course not

just swap some trinkets and rings

you're silly

[lofty depot]

^^

[vital shard]

I tried it also with both hero talents

but EoC is doing a bit better there

[digital berry]

What does the O stand for?

[lofty depot]

Of

[vital shard]

But only to be in the middle, not really that place where we are normally on council fights 😄

[lofty depot]

Fuck a council fight

Cringe niche

[vital shard]

yeah

[digital berry]

Elune of chosen

[vital shard]

only niche we have is to live with the situation or go heal

[heady sentinel]

the real graph? what u mean? wich one is the "real" one xD

[drifting nova]

open to interpretation innit

[harsh jungle]

i wanna see the real graph aswell

[vital shard]

it doesn't matter the graph of mythic and heroic is at the lower end for balance

[lofty depot]

Nuhuh

[drifting nova]

bottom on 2

[safe kite]

That's probably the saddest graph though

[lofty depot]

Best graph

Most ethical

[royal zenith]

Being mid on boss damage

Is literally the worst example

[drifting nova]

why on god do you psychos use score graphs

[vital shard]

you have to take everything in mind

[royal zenith]

You’re competing for boss damage withh cleave specs like fdk

[drifting nova]

[lofty depot]

Not that last range spec

BM hunters st

Rise up

[lofty depot]

Cuz it's easier to spew

Everyone always down bad, let's try being positive for a change

New era, lock in

[safe kite]

But very sad

[digital berry]

Ehh I’m having fun

[vital shard]

one of the biggest problem is that outside of our cd's there is nearly nothing

[drifting nova]

..isnt that the same for alot of specs

[vital shard]

in most cases we loose a lot on important adds coz of ramping up etc

[drifting nova]

atleast balance isnt flat

[leaden birch]

if you flip this graph

we are at the top

[lofty depot]

That means u can fuck up for 1:30 and bing chill

[vital shard]

sure on heroic it doesnt matter a lot, but on mythic there is no reason to give a balance slot

[drifting nova]

if you add an inch eitherside

[leaden birch]

[vital shard]

coz other classes can do the job better

[safe kite]

at least i fellt he kotg is something yo ucan have fun with, the fact that the EC set has made m+ the worst player experience of all time is uforgivable

[lofty depot]

Time to go find the clecia DPS meter

[leaden birch]

[drifting nova]

some inch that is

[leaden birch]

???

[digital berry]

S2 ec and s3 ec are like identical playstyles

Wdym

[lofty depot]

Seems fine

Myth Fractilly

[digital berry]

Are you playing in a top 50 guild ?

Rwf?

[leaden birch]

muted for including bad word

[royal zenith]

Doesnt matter

You want to feel valuable playing this game either way

If you want to grief your team its fine

[vital shard]

yeah

[digital berry]

If you don’t feel valuable as of right now you just need to get better

[vital shard]

ofc

[royal zenith]

But thats your angle

Not theirs

[digital berry]

The difference is not 30%

[vital shard]

in dungeons it's ok

[royal zenith]

Yes, it is

Emnithy have you done mythic yet

[digital berry]

First 3

[royal zenith]

Then you should know the dif

And it will just get worse

[digital berry]

Prog, didn’t kill, couldn’t play extra day

[lofty depot]

Clecia guild rank 30

[digital berry]

We will get buffed, the difference will be smaller

[lofty depot]

He's locked

[royal zenith]

Recruitie is getting 100’s on soulbindrr (add fight) and is still mid to low

The difference IS big

[lofty depot]

Didn't even notice

[vital shard]

i don't think so

they will do absolutely nothing

[royal zenith]

What will help is the fact kill timers will be fast

[digital berry]

The previous expansions trend doesn’t agree with your assumption

[royal zenith]

But that means nothing for how relevant your spec is

[vital shard]

there is no relevance atm for the spec

[safe kite]

I mean the buff has just way to low of a duration it leads you to entire be frustrated with your starfires literally letting the buff run out because they just won't proc, or your tank who won't pull in time and you'll see your 5-6 stack completely wasted. It's nothing like s2 where you just vibed.

[vital shard]

it's only heart of the wild 😄

if you're the only druid

[safe kite]

Mark of the wild

[vital shard]

and than it would be better to go as heal for real progression

yeah

[lofty depot]

Yea but they're padders, yucky

[royal zenith]

Stop coping on boss dam

Especially on soulbindrr where phaseblades need to die

Only dangerous part of the fight

[digital berry]

We have never been good at fights with adds that implode, idk why all of a sudden it’s the end of the world. That just has never been our problem to deal with

[clever heart]

can anyone share a standalone weak aura for 4set dryad buff tracking?

[lofty depot]

Ok

He's locked

[royal zenith]

You’re completely missing the point

But its alright

You do you

[digital berry]

The point is that everybody knows balance is in a sorry state, and if you’re not ok with not topping meters gearing up an elly or smth is your best bet

[royal zenith]

No once again

Thats bs

[lofty depot]

https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet

[haughty matrix]

any1 have sundered firmament wa

[royal zenith]

You can complain about your favorite spec being shit

[lofty depot]

Or just use OiBalance

[royal zenith]

Thats normal

[safe kite]

Imagine this mentality in everything else in life.

[lofty depot]

There's one in the OiBalance pack

[haughty matrix]

ty

[royal zenith]

Its toxic positivity if you just go “ah its not that bad guise look at ma nm logs”

[digital berry]

There’s a difference between complaining about the spec, and telling people in here there’s no reason to bring a balance Druid to prog. This type of negativity is unnecessary

[lofty depot]

Well normally I'm just toxic

[royal zenith]

If its bad it needs to improve

[digital berry]

You could sub 50% of dps for elemental shamans and locks too

[royal zenith]

Simple

[digital berry]

Nobody is going to do that

If you perform, in your basic run of the mill wr 200-500 guild, you will have a good raid experience

[royal zenith]

If you are currently progging forgeweaver, you’re inting by bringing a balance druid

[edgy garden]

would just be nice to have useful damage, fight design for several patches (for hard fights) feels heavily geared towards burst cleave/target swapping

[royal zenith]

Its normal advice

If they are progging nm/hc do w.e.

[lofty depot]

Thoughts on shade bringing 2

[iron chasm]

I perform and I despise the state of this class 😂 feel like everything I do another class does better haha. I guess I have some cool burst now though.

[royal zenith]

Inting obviously

But its not like those 2 will reroll

[lofty depot]

So true

[safe kite]

Emnithy is the kind of person that would tell Rosa Park to just sit at the back of the bus.

[digital berry]

Bro what the fuck

[royal zenith]

They would prog faster if they would bring other classes at the same level of play

[lofty depot]

That's a crazy line

[royal zenith]

Which is factual

[iron chasm]

Probably my first time I’ve genuinely considered a reroll, just cbf waiting for a buff every tier. Getting a banger log and only just beating some 80th percentile class is kinda tiring

[digital berry]

That’s best case scenario

[cloud citrus]

youve held out for 12 years surely you can hold out a lil longer!

[lofty depot]

I then make fun of said warlock for playing op class and being shit

[digital berry]

Let them kill dimensius, we’ll get buffs, the gaps will get smaller

[cloud citrus]

ye i feel like after race they will close the gaps

for sure

[gentle scroll]

Yeah the best feeling is crushing fotm rollers as a shitter class

[cloud citrus]

ele cant be simming as high as it does

[iron chasm]

I mean obviously. But I would rather the 99 I get be a 99 another class could get damage wise. It won’t always be perfect. But let’s get real lol

[royal zenith]

You will crush any person thats a bad player

Thats why they are bad

[digital berry]

You’re never going to have perfect balance

[royal zenith]

Fotm rerolling is whatever

[gentle scroll]

*a worse player than me

[digital berry]

There just isn’t a world in which that happens

[vital shard]

at the end its about fun

[digital berry]

Im having a lot more fun this season then last

[vital shard]

it should feel rewarding when you play your best

[iron chasm]

Yeah but that’s due to a playstyle change

That has nothing to do with the class balancing

[vital shard]

and right now it doesn't. it has nothing to do with beeing in the top 3 of the dps meter

[iron chasm]

You are having fun because you find the tier set engaging

[digital berry]

All this dooming for them to buff balance in a week

[iron chasm]

How about the tier set is engaging AND competitive

[lofty depot]

I'm engaged

[strong bronze]

They are probably done with balance druid

[royal zenith]

Its insanely obvious that balance gets a buff

[digital berry]

If they don’t buff balance and this is the state they leave us in then you can bitch and moan all season long

[royal zenith]

Watch emnithy go “I told you guise!!” In 1 week

All proud

[digital berry]

Deux you have a very warped idea of me in your head ngl

[strong bronze]

I mean im all for boomie getting buffed , i just dont think its gonna be soon

[iron chasm]

We get w huge aura buff every tier though, surely you see a problem with that

[digital berry]

Yeah they do not know what to do with balance

[royal zenith]

I think you’re just being over-defensive in a time where balance druid has been in the worst state since shadowlands

[vital shard]

BUT its shit to compete with players who are playing not really good, do rotational faults, but do a lot of dps coz of that shit balancing and you were just a little above them

[iron chasm]

We lost our identity over the last like 6 patches, been kinda crazy.

[royal zenith]

Its fine to just acknowledge that

[safe kite]

Something is very weird with that since it's quite obvious what they could do to solve it

[iron chasm]

We aren’t even a dot class anymore, but we require two dots on every mob to even start to do damage because it’s tied to our mastery

And then starfall kinda stinky now too

Stinky class

[vital shard]

yeah our dots are insane low

feels not good to dot sometimes

[digital berry]

The class is in a shit state and that’s something nobody is disagreeing on tho.

[royal zenith]

If there was ever a fight where you actually should shine its soulhunters

And we’re just mid to bad

[vital shard]

yeah

also our damn talent choices which aren't anything like e. g. flare dot

why

[digital berry]

I blame Max and his hatred for boomkins

He has connections inside blizzard fr fr

[royal zenith]

Just buff the class

[gentle scroll]

B bu bu but if you buff moonkin they will just class stack it

[royal zenith]

Ret paladin getting “emergency” buffs is the biggest joke out of all of this

[spark anchor]

everyone hates boomkins trust

[vital shard]

yeah

[royal zenith]

You have to realize that we even got a 13% buff to KOTG like a few days before the tier

[vital shard]

but the ret has a big playerbase

[royal zenith]

Its just a shit situation

[vital shard]

and blizz needs the money

😄

[iron chasm]

Boomy has a big player base

[digital berry]

Balance has a huge playerbase aswell

20 man alive in p3 echo

[leaden birch]

isn't druid 2nd most played class

behind pally

[iron chasm]

Will they hit the dps check

[vital shard]

but not only boomie

you got a lot more healer

[strong bronze]

The biggest problem with boomie is after they also made starfall stackable , they have no idea how to balance the spec

[leaden birch]

ye I know, I'm just saying druid in general

[vital shard]

noone wants to play pally heal :D:D

[iron chasm]

Stackable starfall was a good QoL. It gave us an actual aoe spender

[vital shard]

yeah if they would do a flat buff it would be to much for dungeons coz of starfall

[digital berry]

Starfall doesn’t do much dmg

[iron chasm]

Mini gamers will riot if it does actual damage

[royal zenith]

Balance druid is very popular ye

[covert coyote]

yea but who cares about dungeons, m+ is a minigame

[vital shard]

maybe buff wrath for 15 % to only adress single target

[strong bronze]

I mean even then it wouldnt change much

[lofty depot]

Fuck shining on that boss

[digital berry]

Buffing wrath by 15% would buff our st by like 0.5%

[lofty depot]

Hate me the council niche

[iron chasm]

Like how we could have had orbital strike sharing a node with shrooms (?) but PvP minigamers ruined that

[vital shard]

na m+ is a big content, most play it coz of gear, vault etc

[iron chasm]

This is why you play mage now

[vital shard]

it's kinda daily business

[lofty depot]

Yea change it back and give stellar drift

[covert coyote]

yea, gear to use where

in raid

[lofty depot]

Make surge splash or split with a talent

[vital shard]

raid only 2-3 days a week (in most cases)

[iron chasm]

Bring back CN boomy

[royal zenith]

Is true

[lofty depot]

Or make surge refresh dots on all mobs

That's badass

[iron chasm]

Oh man I miss the dot renew talents

[gentle scroll]

Make moonfire spread like sunfire

[vital shard]

bring back shrooms with more power and delete starfall or make it a cd again with 1 min

[iron chasm]

Bake twin moons into moonfire

Give us an impactful aoe ability that isn’t just starfall

[silver plinth]

they just need to kill the eclipse mechanic, that is just a chore

[iron chasm]

Revert astral smoulder to always apply to crits

[silver plinth]

also, give us Shadowcrash

[edgy garden]

make a 2 charge targeted aoe ability called stellar crash that applies both dots (jk)

[iron chasm]

Make wrath cleave again in solar eclipse

[digital berry]

Eclipses are such a horrible mechanic

[covert coyote]

druid disc full of chefs

[iron chasm]

We cookin

Rename orbital to syzygy

Just make it wod boomy let’s fkn go

[silver plinth]

also make starfall an area spell like rain of fire, so no one can call that a niche

[iron chasm]

Pendulum baby

[iron chasm]

It was

[silver plinth]

ik

[iron chasm]

They changed it back because it was piss

[silver plinth]

and ppl were bitching about it

[covert coyote]

bring back being able to place starfall on the cieling

[silver plinth]

ez fix, starfall target based like earthquake

[digital berry]

Stellar drift my beloved

[silver plinth]

make it a choice note, sham did it, we can do it

[lofty depot]

Watching Araz prog like have fun in p3

[iron chasm]

I’m about ready to play feral for some of these fights

I’ll just chose between one of the 10 builds those dudes been cookin

Imagine that flexibility god damn

[lofty depot]

Our feral is going dk the one tier feral be very good

[iron chasm]

Our dk went Windwalker

[lofty depot]

That's crazy work

[silver plinth]

we are flexible, we can decide between a few spells that are all bad.

[strong bronze]

My guild wants me to go feral so bad

[lofty depot]

They don't believe in u

Fight back, show them recruitie and dakd

[iron chasm]

I’ve been offered the chance to reroll and let one of our healers go resto

[lofty depot]

Lock in the propaganda

[iron chasm]

I’m ready to play void dh

[strong bronze]

Nah im not swapping off to feral if its the last thing ill do

[lofty depot]

Range dh so u never have to play havoc

[bold vale]

I am struggling so far in heroic. Would anyone mind helping me? I've looked at logs and compared mine to others and looked at timelines and it looks like I am doing everything "right", or as right as I'd expect a player like me to do. But I just do low numbers

[lofty depot]

But going into that discord might be problematic

[iron chasm]

Can’t trust the melee players on ranged

[lofty depot]

Post the log

[iron chasm]

I haven’t had the pleasure of seeing any other class discords yet

[digital berry]

Elly is actually hella fun to play

[iron chasm]

I’ve been a balance Druid since wotlk

[digital berry]

We already have 2 unforch

[lofty depot]

They're unhinged

[bold vale]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/t2fBYmKXCMAk9Lzv?fight=58&type=damage-done&source=216

[lofty depot]

Ight 3 minutes

[iron chasm]

Off Arctic goes

[digital berry]

You’re not playing the new 4 piece correctly

[bold vale]

Is this a good thing?

[rich jewel]

Surely balance pop off dim p3

Finishing strong

[iron chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/hackerman-gif-13247943

[digital berry]

You should definitely look into the balance Druid compendium in pins

To learn the new rotation

[low sigil]

Check out Gamz youtube video too it helped me watching him do the opener.

[bold vale]

Okay. I only had it for about 3 minutes so didn't have time to practice. I was pretty much doing s2 rotation, is that a big issue?

[iron chasm]

You also have old stats. Your sim should be pushing you way further into crit and vers. That will be impacting your 4set dmg a lot

[lofty depot]

its a dps loss

[eager raft]

[low sigil]

Yes, you need to track when dryad falls off so you can get 2 starsurges during incarn its a tight window at the end.

[bold vale]

I also wasn't sure if starfalling or surging in the platforms

[lofty depot]

ur also sending weird cds

[iron chasm]

Depends on how ethical you want to be

[lofty depot]

like u dont do this in s2

[iron chasm]

You could let the melee pigs kill the adds or you could assert dominance with starfall

[digital berry]

I used starfall there and things died more or less at the same time

[lofty depot]

u also dont send ca on platform whehn theres a damage amp in 1 minute

[iron chasm]

Ya you save two charges for dmg amp

Can send naked trees

Nah after

[lofty depot]

no

i said u dont

[digital berry]

Erm

I misread that

[lofty depot]

YTEA U BETTER DELET THAT

[iron chasm]

What the

Emnithy???

[bold vale]

Stupid how it never occurred to me to save 2 charges for that

[digital berry]

Im deleting my tracks nobody can know i cant read

[safe kite]

EVERYBODY STAY CALM

[iron chasm]

It’s not stupid man it’s all just learning

[lofty depot]

well the sequence is different from s2

[bold vale]

Ok so if don't know any rotation

And I don't know my stats

[safe kite]

It's fine just do the opener correctly and you'll 95+ parse anyways.

[upper surge]

Im getting fuckign SMOKED by other classes in M+

I don't know if it's me, the class, or (most likely) both

[bold vale]

I've obviously made assumptions in my tired state and then performed nowhere like what I was

[lofty depot]

should read the guide and go practice on a dummy

[digital berry]

The spec isn’t as good as it was but it’s not complete dogshit

[low sigil]

Moike, are you doing EC in m+? I'm owning it up

[iron chasm]

What kind of keys and what groups are you running with

[digital berry]

In m+

[iron chasm]

You don’t always top like it used to in your usual weeklies, but we definitely aren’t weak in them

[safe kite]

It's extremly reliant on the tank helping you out so the diffrence in pugs and premades is larger than ever

[upper surge]

pugs +10s, I'm trying to get some hero pieces still

[digital berry]

Weekly 10s I have yet to not top dps

[digital berry]

Huh ? Just send foe and put the fries in the bag

[iron chasm]

You haven’t run with 4 pc demon hunters and prot warriors who take everything yet then I guess

[digital berry]

I mean if shit doesn’t live long enough we don’t do much dmg, tell me smth new

[safe kite]

Again I get the feeling that you have not played EC in m+ this season

[digital berry]

Yeah I haven’t, got me there, I let my little brother run my keys

[iron chasm]

Bro I haven’t looked at my 4pc really in keys

[digital berry]

Not once

[upper surge]

yeah just got completely smoked by shadow priest and ele shaman, this is eco dome +10
feels like I'm doing nothing compared to how my keys usually go 1-2 weeks of the season. The priest had most of the gear from previous expansion too :/

[iron chasm]

I just send foe on cd

And if I get a good dmg amp I get a good dmg amp

[digital berry]

Yeah I feel like it’s a skill issue for the most part

[strong bronze]

Not the case to be exact

[iron chasm]

You’re probebly sending your cds badly

[strong bronze]

+10s are a joke

[iron chasm]

And not dotting everything

And not using foe enough

[lofty depot]

post a log not a screeny of numbys on a details meter

[strong bronze]

Everything dies way too fast before you could dot stuff

[iron chasm]

Not really

[upper surge]

Maybe with a premade group

[iron chasm]

Maybe the fodder mobs

But you definitely have time to get dots out and ramp most of the time

[upper surge]

I'll get a log for the next one

[low sigil]

moonfire as the tank collects, by the time everything is grouped you should be able to sunfire and go to town

[gentle scroll]

Your spending close to 10 seconds dotting up big pulls meanwhile the frost DK and MM have been hammering them to half health

[leaden birch]

i ran with a devoker and fdk last night

[upper surge]

I'm trying to the standard moonfiring while running, sunfire when tank gathers shit, get into eclipse, fury of elune, starfall and starfire forever

[leaden birch]

and i've never felt so useless

[strong bronze]

Not a whole lot of ramping if everything is dead

[lofty depot]

dont invite mm hunter

ezpz

[iron chasm]

Are you runnings 4s

[low sigil]

are you waiting until everything is grouped before you start dotting ??

[leaden birch]

0 lust and devoker pulled 35m on the pack after the first boss on priory?

???

tf

[iron chasm]

I’ll let you say boomy is piss in raid but we are pretty fine in mplus

[strong bronze]

No

[low sigil]

because they can't just get mobs to half health during a pull. when i do m+ tanks are usually collecting several packs before anything really happens. during that im getting moonfire on everything.

[safe kite]

We bring motw we will always be fine in m+ as long as we keep the guardians and the restos down

[iron chasm]

We do a lot of damage in mplus. Maybe not as much as we used to but we definitely aren’t as bad as you guys are saying we are

[safe kite]

we really don't though. Statistcly but again. MotW will forever carry you

[low sigil]

Moike, did you die during that m+? Because to fall that far behind others makes me think you spent some time running back to the group after death

[iron chasm]

I’m starting to think you’re bad at balance lol

[upper surge]

Nope, they just smoked me

[safe kite]

I am for sure it's a good thing that that everyone else is much worse.

[low sigil]

you got your 4pc yet?

[iron chasm]

Right

[upper surge]

The priest was clearly better but shaman even died twice so I can only assume he was slamming his head against the keyboard
and I do have a 4pc but 1 piece of vet from week 1 lfr

[iron chasm]

Well you do you buddy 😂

[iron chasm]

Are you sending cds as bosses are dying and not saving it for the next pack?

[safe kite]

I keep getting gaslit thinking I'm doing something wrong and then I'll hit a top 10 log and go "Huh, that's weird, I guess every balance druid is just trash".

[upper surge]

hard to judge from my perspective where I'm fucking up but I don't recall doing that, I pop cds when tank gathers a big group and everything or mostly everything is dotted up

fury of elune I use on cooldown while in eclipse, unless stuff is close to death 🤷‍♀️

[iron chasm]

I’ll keep an eye out for you on logs 🤪

[fiery veldt]

am i crazy or did they lower the proc rate of the starfire starsurge

it felt like last week it procced way more

[normal pilot]

you just got a bad client

relog and hope for better guid

[safe kite]

My logs are my NFTs don't steal.

[iron chasm]

Unless you gettin rank 1s and posting it in the dreamgrove for your balance brothers you ain’t really getting rank 1s

[low sigil]

can you explain? I've never heard anyone talk about this

[loud kettle]

Gastank trying to bring feral memes into balance gg

[lofty depot]

hes trolling

u got the 1% troll from gastank response

[normal pilot]

better spec has better memes

[royal zenith]

guid is a thing tho

[lofty depot]

you should feel honored honestly

[safe kite]

I don't want Artic to go over my rank 1 logs and tell me all the things I did wrong, I'm precious.

[royal zenith]

weird flex

[iron chasm]

I can tell 😛

[low sigil]

the only reason i had doubt it was a troll was because he's in orange.. but i should be smarter than that anyway. i'll take the L

[lofty depot]

i want to go over my own and see my own problems :/

[royal zenith]

the downside of having a bad spec, even worse playerbase

[low sigil]

then again.. all the damn bugs lately i don't know what to expect in this game anymore

[iron chasm]

Yeah we are meant to trust the coloured names

But they just let us down really

[lofty depot]

waht

[iron chasm]

What

[covert coyote]

what

[normal pilot]

idk if they still fuck up like this, but sometimes blizz devs forget to make random actually random

so the unique GUID you get when you enter the world can sometime determine if you're targetted by boss abilities

like you'll have bosses where only a few ppl get all the mechanics every time

[iron chasm]

Is this real or are you gaslighting me

[normal pilot]

cuz the randomizer isn't actually random

[loud kettle]

Remnant of nerzhul moment

[royal zenith]

it's real

[lofty depot]

random in games is not always random

[loud kettle]

Mass dispel wa working off of guid

[tame dome]

how does moonkin ramp up time on AoE compare with shadowpriest?

[lofty depot]

gotta go find that random circle chart

one sec

[normal pilot]

there's some "random" aoe abilities that still do this too

i forget if it was a trinket or if it was a set

[loud kettle]

Gonna randomly guess fury war s1 set

[normal pilot]

but things like "proc buff X on aoe ability Y"

sometimes it'll always proc on the same target every time

not necessarily the first target, but the target with the highest/lowest GUID

[upper surge]

This sounds like bullshit

so it's obviously true

[normal pilot]

it was really bad in DF alpha

like they forgot to set it for every single aoe ability

i know at least one trinket from this patch still does this i forget which one

[upper surge]

Now that I've learned this I'll come back to this comment any time I get targeted twice in a row with any ability ever

[gentle scroll]

Start calling wipes when you get targeted with the first mechanic on a boss

[normal pilot]

tbf it is roughly enough time since SL where they'd have lost enough devs that know about this so the new devs won't know and make the same mistake

so it actually might be occuring more frequently again

[lofty depot]

wait til u hear about the ability to not be picked as often as other people

[gentle scroll]

[lofty depot]

make new character every tier

[upper surge]

I think I still haven't been targeted by a single laser in the soulbinder fight over these two weeks

not crazy but makes me wonder

[iron chasm]

How will I think of more names for my toons

[lofty depot]

bootypopone

[clear shoal]

hey all dumb question, but is the 4pc for elune broken? Im not getting starsurge procs

[iron chasm]

But it’s not really bootypopone is it
A toon built on a lie is destined for failure

[lofty depot]

just proc better

also, it would be hte 2p that is broken if ur not getting surge procs

[clear shoal]

yea sorry thats what I meant

[normal pilot]

are you capped on ap

[cold gyro]

It’s not broken, read it once again. Only starsurge that are created by starfires which generated ap will count for your gathering

It doesn’t proc like crazy but you should have 1 every two or 3 casts since its 40% chance

[clear shoal]

okay its a skill issue I think

will L2p and report back

[dry compass]

Meanwhile me, getting loomi tether every time I have to soak and crying for my life

[rocky saddle]

Pardon the nub question but how tf you all staying alive questing? Pulling packs doing world quests has me down to like half health every time

[drifting nova]

cant wait to be top dam when blizzardo release a new one

totally the reason I'm not top

[low sigil]

use trees to tank, you have instant heals and barkskin.

[strange edge]

Does being capped on AP impact the Starsurges from Starfire?

[pallid bay]

yes, starfire needs to generate AP for it to proc

[strange edge]

That's righttttt.

Duh thank you

[dry compass]

Only took 4 iterations of 'these changes make it not worth spending AP in EC' for them to head that one off at the design table this time

[upper surge]

lmao what

[hearty frost]

yo quick question, do we go a 2 handed or do we go off hand when it comes to crafting ?

[gentle scroll]

Do you have a main hand mythic or heroic kris dagger?

[hearty frost]

no

alt char 😛

[gentle scroll]

Then 2h

[hearty frost]

aight, ty 😛

[jade fog]

is it just me or did we lose dmg after 4 set in EC?

[digital berry]

Yes this season tier set is not as good as last seasons

Idk about actually losing dmg by equipping it

[gentle scroll]

It's def not as big of a boost as S1 -> S2 was

[teal lichen]

I did an eco-dome last night where I got 80-ish 2pc free starsurge procs, but only had 5 hits of the 4pc splintering starsurges. Something is def whack about the 4pc

the bear also running elune's had a similar incredibly-low splinter hit count

[dry compass]

Since the introduction of EC there has been multiple sets of tuning passes that made Starfire so comparatively strong that you would be better off spamming Starfire than using the gcd to spend AsP in many scenarios

[digital berry]

That is really not a reliable metric unless you track every single 2p proc

[dry compass]

Avoiding that is exactly why the 2pc is only proccing when Starfire generates AsP

[digital berry]

You could be getting super lucky and overcapping, dropping stacks off between pulls

[gentle scroll]

I never realized Ursol's Vortex icon was a little person getting pulled in. I thought it was like a view of a hurricane from space

[last folio]

Hey guys. Just started playing druid this season and i am struggling with dps. I am ilvl 693 and somehow no matter the m key i deal around 1.5M dps and with all buffs and CD down i deal around 3. But on bosses deal 1.2-1.4.

[digital berry]

Those numbers are extremely extremely low

Check the compendium in pins and read the guide

You probably have some misunderstanding on how the spec works

[last folio]

Watched and read many guides and tried multiple talents but i just can't deal damage. Even pressing the "do all" button i can't deal damage.

so it's not my rotation

[cloud citrus]

its your rotation

use the single button rotation and youll be doing more then you do there

[digital berry]

It’s either your rotation or you’re wearing agi weapon / trinkets in +2 keys where everything instantly dies

[dry compass]

Link log

[last folio]

last dungeon i only used the magic button and didn't do much dmg either, around the same damage as i do pressing the buttons all by myself.

[digital berry]

Link logs is the only way for us to diagnose your problem

[last folio]

CgGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAzYmhZWmZgZMzYxMzwsYZAbGGNRmZWmZbmZWGzYAAAAAAwwYALbzshxsMAmAAAA2MmBgFDM

this?

[jaunty blaze]

[digital berry]

Not your talent build

[last folio]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/burning-blade/exordi

this?

[dry compass]

Warcraftlogs.com

[digital berry]

Bro

[dry compass]

Go there, acquire log. Come back, link log

[digital berry]

Bro

You’re playing bear

What

This is not the bear channel

[last folio]

No.

I am switching between bear and moonkin

[dry compass]

Agi staff

[jaunty blaze]

thats an agi weapon you wear so maybe thats your problem alraedy

[dry compass]

Are you swapping weapon

[digital berry]

Your ilvl is 573

According to wclogs

Ok it wasn’t updated

[dry compass]

That's all PvP gear, probably a bad logout?

[last folio]

Am i supposed to have more? I only have one

[digital berry]

There are no logs for m+ on balance

[digital berry]

The bear weapon is mainstat agi

The balance weapon is int

[jaunty blaze]

yeah thats a very huge difference

[dry compass]

[leaden birch]

burning blade

[cloud citrus]

o jeezus

[leaden birch]

my server

[last folio]

So the weapon is the most important?

[gentle scroll]

Posting my weekly no leaver +2

[gentle scroll]

huge

[dry compass]

Weapon has significantly more main stat and makes a much bigger impact to your DPS than any other slot

[digital berry]

The only way we can tell you what is wrong is with a log

[last folio]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/burning-blade/exordi?zone=45

does this work?

[digital berry]

Yeah there’s no balance logs

[last folio]

Idk. i just finished one

[digital berry]

According to wclogs you also do not have any tier set piece aside from helmet

Thats like an 18% dps difference

[last folio]

Omg tmi for my brain. I just thought you click clack the keyboard. My lord

[dry compass]

If no one in your party is uploading the log it doesn't make it to wcl

[last folio]

How can i do that?

[dry compass]

It's a third party site and does not have access to blizzard's combat logs

Go to the home page and get the wcl companion app

Then install an autologger add-on because you WILL forget to turn on advanced logging

Once you've done a dungeon, go into wcl app and upload it

[drifting nova]

anyone know how the delve vendor works

[last folio]

Ok, so. Just to summ things up. I need intelect weap (and gear generally), need to get tier items (how do i do that?) and i'm set?

[digital berry]

Get them in raid

[last folio]

ooh, ok

[digital berry]

And catalyzing

You have one

The helmet

[last folio]

yeah

[coarse frost]

some one know the command where i cant switch instant form

if i double press bear or boomkin i switch instant back

its have 0 gcd

[dry compass]

Dropping form will always have no gcd

Shifting into a new form always will

[coarse frost]

noi iuts have command

[cloud citrus]

/cast !cat form

or using fluid form to go back into forms

but ye what youre asking for hasnt existed since s2 of mop

powershiftin loong gone

[upper surge]

powershifting?

Could someone take a look at this abomination and point out the most obvious things I'm doing wrong?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CdFv4fPDJYbVAhzG?fight=last
Everyone played like shit in that run so in the chaos I probably used way more dots than necessary

[lofty depot]

If ur spamming the form it's gonna switch u back unless u use

#showtooltip Moonkin Form
/cast [nostance:4] Moonkin Form

Otherwise the "no gcd" switching is maybe fluid form thing, but u said spamming bear, but ur not really describing ur problem I think

[shrewd moss]

honestly i just go bear for a lot of world quests, then i can just pull infinite mobs and pay little attention and roll my face on the keyboard and win. only time it's really slower is on single target fights

[lofty depot]

Feral or guardian while questing

[loud kettle]

This is a bug

Idk how to fix

Its very rare

Relogging doesnt fix

Hasn't happened to me but I've seen it

[upper surge]

studies have shown that playing guardian without a movie/video distraction increases the risk of self harm by 300%

[loud kettle]

By default the button should have a grace period

[fleet furnace]

Why couldn't they just leave us with the overpowered set for a single tier?

[twin flax]

prior 4 set tier is keeper an option in M+ ?

[jaunty blaze]

its always an option

[lofty depot]

Define option

[twin flax]

can I put out equal DPS in a m+ below 10 is what I mean

[lofty depot]

Equal to other classes?

[twin flax]

equal to elunes chosen

[jaunty blaze]

does it really matter on this key level

shit dies in seconds either way

[lofty depot]

I mean below 10s is kinda cringe for both

[twin flax]

i feel like I spen 70% of the dungeon applying moonfire 😄

[jaunty blaze]

you wont pull huge numbers

[lofty depot]

Keeper does piss all though

[lofty depot]

I mean, u get used to it

[twin flax]

on higher keys its less of an impact stuff just lives longer 😄

[jaunty blaze]

just let go its not a fun spec to play in low keys

[lofty depot]

I mean low keys are cringe. They're fine like day 1

I'm spamming dungeons at 6-9 I'm bored there's really nothing u can do

This tier I got lucky and didn't have to

[late gorge]

boomkin buffs today guys? 😄

[ivory tulip]

As far as Haste is concerned how much is too much?

[craggy sonnet]

in raid?

any haste is too much

or rather for kotg

[feral carbon]

oi bois

elemental focusing lens or vers above 80% hp for mplus?

[sick laurel]

sim sim

[leaden birch]

sim sim

[tardy hare]

Dawnbreaker is bugged?

[leaden birch]

in what way

place is buggy af

[eager raft]

always has been!

[junior thicket]

why is the 1 hand fractilus dagger overall bis on wowhead but the void staff from soulbinder isnt listed even though it has haste,mastery

[lofty depot]

Because we don't like haste

[junior thicket]

i like haste

[stone ledge]

Haste is nice on elunes chosen but there’s only 1 required fight for etc

[lofty depot]

U can like it, but we dont

[junior thicket]

yea but it says overall, and we play elunes in m+ dont we

[lofty depot]

Some of us don't care about m+

But he likey copied it over

[junior thicket]

yea but i mean for m+ it should be better or no

[lofty depot]

Assuming u have 1 not the other

[lofty depot]

Sure but u can sim it instead of looking at funny bis list

[junior thicket]

yea i just dropped it on mythic and also i crafted a 2h 2 days ago :/

[mental tiger]

Is boomie still as flat and easy to play as it always was? Like pre tww

[junior thicket]

i did thats why i just asked here because i was confused at the overall bis list

[lofty depot]

Flat, no

Again, stop looking at bis lists

[junior thicket]

hope the boomie i have raided with doesnt see my message here that ive dropped it

[lofty depot]

Trust ur sim buddy

[mental tiger]

What "deep" about it then?

Whats*

[lofty depot]

Just cuz it isn't flat doesn't mean it's deep

[mental tiger]

How is it not flat? Put up dots, build ap spend ap and that's it

[lofty depot]

It's pretty simple with some different sequencing u can get vastly different ourcomes

Feral is just getting 5cp, keep bleeds up and spend

[eager raft]

💀

[lofty depot]

BM is just hit kill command and bolt

[eager raft]

yeah you’re right man boomy way harder than feral

[lofty depot]

I didn't say that

But we're giga dumbing down things to builder spender

Well yea, that's fuggn all the classes at this point

Welcome to wow

[mental tiger]

Nah thats not arcane mage at all rly

[lofty depot]

Yea mage is the exception not the rule

[mental tiger]

But boomie is just sooo, vanilla wow rotation

Almost

[lofty depot]

Frost mage is builder spender

[mental tiger]

But ur saying u think there's at least abit of complexity

[lofty depot]

Tiny bit

[regal nest]

does any1 have an idea why i cant skip 11.2 campaign even if i did chapter 3 and phase diving on my main?

[lofty depot]

Did u go to far on said alt

The skip is like the first chat after porting

[regal nest]

well yea it doesnt work on any alt

[wispy parrot]

am i the only one who finds really hard to stack up or get any use out of 4p as CE in m+?

[lofty depot]

Yea bad design wcyd

[late gorge]

can anyone paste 4pc bonus weakaura?

[lofty depot]

U just send for on cd to get buff

https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet

Just copy it or use OiBalance pack cuz it's clearly better

[wispy parrot]

yea but like i get maybe 10 better use of it/dungeon (4 or more stack)

[lofty depot]

Yea it's a passive tier set that u just send

[dire osprey]

ngl i just completely ignore it lol

and send on cooldown

[lofty depot]

Otherwise ur trying to coordinate a 6 stack around an annoying uptime time and it's cringe

[wispy parrot]

i dont really try to play aound it becaus you cant xd

the proc rate is so bad you cant really do anything with it xd

[upper surge]

Oh so we don't like haste

[dire osprey]

haste is only for m+ i think

raid its more crit/mast from what ive simmed

[upper surge]

I have been getting mostly haste mastery items so that's partially out of my hands, but I also did go heavy haste too wherever I could

2.5k crit 💀

[lofty depot]

Definitely not enough

[safe kite]

We used to like haste, crit is our new best friend

[short kite]

Server dead?

[digital berry]

2 eu servers dead apparently

[upper surge]

Yeah I rarely sell gear so I can get rid of some haste thankfully, but simming all this shit is a bother because it doesn't let me sim more than like 5 items :/

[digital berry]

Whatch out everybody, there’s poor people around

Hide your wallets

[upper surge]

what

[blazing thicket]

spelling error, says grand instead of grant

[digital berry]

No raidbots premium

[digital berry]

@lucid olive fix this STAT

[upper surge]

im not paying for that shit xd

[jaunty blaze]

fix the servers first

[upper surge]

i haven't paid for wow in years and im not about to start now

[blazing thicket]

right? i just use gold

[digital berry]

Gl with your sims

It’s like 2$ a month

To get 2mill combinations

[blazing thicket]

find a guild that has a guild raidbot pemium

[upper surge]

eh

doesn't matter at the end of the day

[granite crystal]

Hey there !
Just got a silly question sorry if someone already asked it !

I took a look to the opener rotation, and I dont really understand why use "starfire" juste after the 2 wrath ? (I have 4P, just in case).

[covert coyote]

2x wrath when countdown is at 4, then wrath when in lunar eclipse

[gentle scroll]

Because you have time

[covert coyote]

free damage and chance to proc free spender if you're talented for it

[digital berry]

Free asp and dmg

[upper surge]

takes a while for wrath to reach the target

[digital berry]

You start the cast before boss is pulled and end after boss is pulled

[granite crystal]

Thanks a lot all !

[covert coyote]

np love u

[granite crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-you-aww-golden-girls-blanche-devereaux-shy-gif-23876713

[digital berry]

[drifting nova]

wait is the 1st boss in cleft still bugged

brother its been months

multi dollar company

[digital berry]

What are you doing in cleft

[drifting nova]

weekly

on my piss baby dk

a bug report from may

first boss just doesnt drop loot, any loot

no sparkles no nothing

[digital berry]

Yall seen the latest echo tweet?

[drifting nova]

I sense an increase in bans from it

[digital berry]

https://x.com/echoguild/status/1958978502348132446?s=46&t=Ww2LKzV5dHnMkXnz2_2AwQ

Echo (@EchoGuild)

Hopeful sends his regards

X · Aug 22, 2025, 7:44 PM

[earnest wraith]

Is there a bug with the 2pc and keeper of the grove or where do i find the starfall dmg from the dryade ?

in details

[digital berry]

Under starfall I’d assume

[strange edge]

Someone said they aren't starfalling

But I don't know if it was confirmed

[brittle mulch]

in st should you always keep one starfall up

[strange edge]

Stellar Drift please

[digital berry]

No

On wclogs it looks like my dryads are only casting 5 spells

Which would be the 5 surges

@lofty depot explain

[earnest wraith]

ty

i only find the dryad surge dmg in details, which is marked with dryad but not the starfall dmg

[maiden pasture]

Where tf did you get this knowledge from

[jaunty blaze]

argus progression

[lofty depot]

Smh

[maiden pasture]

on details it just shows as starfall

[digital berry]

Im stupid what can I say

[lofty depot]

Also the Starfall is around u, so if ur not in range it ain't hitting

[blazing thicket]

i dont think sims is correctly simming this trinket

hmm im not usually a dps, any way to test this dps without sims

[sick laurel]

do a full normal raid for pâdding purpose, and tell us how fun or annoying having to regrowth someone every 30 sec feel. im also curious about it

[digital berry]

its not

obviously

that trinket needs a unique APL

[timber grove]

I think it would be pretty decent for M+

[sick laurel]

ya like somesort of setting that you perfectly heal on cds

[digital berry]

using it throughout the whole pull is probably whatever but the int during a double ca window woul be insane

[fathom nebula]

Guys.. power of goldrinn is NOT good on Soulblade fight 😄

Forgot to change shitty talent

[livid jay]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[lucid olive]

[night gulch]

how cooked is your gamma

[fathom nebula]

HDR

For some reason it increases gamma to 1000% when i take screenshot

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[digital berry]

yeah i dont think anyone was under the impression it would be good

[fathom nebula]

Better?

[fathom nebula]

I was just teeeeeesting 🙁

[night gulch]

bruh

[craggy sonnet]

that is stupid .. if you equip it then you use it for every tree window

[timber grove]

[craggy sonnet]

@lucid olive stellar amp could be fine tho for soul hunters, right? any opinion?

[verbal hornet]

Am I the only one when siming the crafted gear it shows than only Mythic Kriss + Craft OH is better than the 2H staff 720?
The Hero version of the Kriss is like 3% below the staff

[real flax]

question, with EC choosen it's better to press starfire in CA or spam wrath to fill faster AP?

[robust yarrow]

Hi i have e question , What are the best crafts for balance druid?

[lucid olive]

starfire

[real flax]

ty

[digital berry]

damn oathsworn tenacity weapon enchant sims 0.5% better

smh

[craggy sonnet]

enchant is all about what gear you are wearing right now

can be any of the secondary (minus haste) ones that sim best

[digital berry]

i still have soo much haste

[verbal hornet]

Haste/Mastery weapon sims Better that Crit/Mastery for me

[digital berry]

kotg 4 piece?

[craggy sonnet]

fake fake fake

sim or didnt happen

[lucid olive]

idk if the splashed starsurge procs spread it maybe

[craggy sonnet]

at least on dummies they dont

gotta test this somewhere reasonable

but im guessing at 3 targets it might be already kinda fine?

[lucid olive]

idk don't think it will matter much

[craggy sonnet]

it doesnt affect starfall, right?

[lucid olive]

it does

[craggy sonnet]

oh

[lucid olive]

only thing you can remove for it is umbral insp

[craggy sonnet]

crashing star?

ok

[lucid olive]

i assume you just play EC on soul hunters

with the regular m+ build

[verbal hornet]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o3CWZpthB2tfG6W3o4LLYd

Haste/Mastery Staff on Patchwerk works better thatn Crit/Mastery

[timber grove]

your sim is like 1m dps too low here for your ilvl lol

[royal zenith]

turned off all buffs

[craggy sonnet]

the other one doesnt have embellishment

and yea .. no buffs is interesting

[verbal hornet]

Oh thougt it was but indeed it explain some stuff

[fathom nebula]

Website or Program for reading parsed spells? 😮

[normal pilot]

the splash isn't starsurge so it won't proc stellar amp

[fathom nebula]

This is what i was testing 😄

[lucid olive]

It's SimC github spelldata file https://www.github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/SpellDataDump/druid.txt

[fathom nebula]

oh

[timber grove]

honestly the crit/mastery and haste/mastery on wep is only a 5k dps difference for me

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rDZ4wuwZMaAzGvxpZHPC7k

[lucid olive]

idk why but every time i copy address from github it ignores the https://www. part

[fathom nebula]

Browser shenanigans

[blazing thicket]

plus you can stack it with an on use which is why i love it

having double on use trinket is insane imo

Priory is significantly less int on a 2 min CD, so 30 seconds and can stack with another on use trinket, and all you got to do is cast a regrowth?

[digital berry]

it's going to be healer restricted in no time

[blazing thicket]

Maybe but its hard to use, uses a gcd, and no1 wants to do it. idk if its even worth it yet. but its fun to talk about since i got the trinket week 1 and tried it the same day, idk if i was the first to figure it out

but if i cared enough about not wanting it fixed i wouldnt be telling people lol

I only heal in serious content

[pallid bay]

what if the splash is bugged and can do a little bit more damage..

feel like we've heard this story before

[meager storm]

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-cat-gif-24663663

[meager storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/434113367938957315/1286443496118554686/caption.gif

[minor swift]

anybody feel like looking at my logs and figuring out why Im dumb

like, I know im learning boomkin

but surely I am not THAT bad

[pallid bay]

send them, ill tell u why u dumb..

[minor swift]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/argent-dawn/wronger

[pallid bay]

your ilvl kinda sucks

you're playing the wrong talents

this is for 4p

[minor swift]

oh yes

[pallid bay]

are you playing lightning rod or can logs still not display what you have on the belt

you should craft the pure fiber

you're using cheap gems

[minor swift]

yeah that's wrong, using Electric Current

[pallid bay]

whats electric current

now for your rotation

this part is correct, precast wrath, starfire, dots

but why did we take our hands off the keyboard?

[full sleet]

Brutal

[minor swift]

good point

[lofty depot]

u might be practicing the new way. but ur doing it wrong

[pallid bay]

so you want to use trees CA, dump your AP and then convoke

[pallid bay]

and yeah what arctic said, it looks like you're doing rotation for the new 4p

[lofty depot]

i would suggest maybe macroing that to ur ca

[pallid bay]

he has other trinket with CA

[lofty depot]

oh i didnt even notice

[minor swift]

yeah picked up the new trinket tonight so figuring that out

[lofty depot]

yea delete the other one

on jah

[pallid bay]

but yeah, with your trinket combo you would want to use ritual forge with your cds

[pallid bay]

and the other trinket when you're not in cds

[lofty depot]

so heres the extended opener right, when ur practicing that sequenc u need to pool asp for that 2nd ca

[pallid bay]

he dosnt have 4p..

[lofty depot]

i understand

im still just explaining the thought process around said sequence cuz thats what hes doing

u need to figure out this timing

cuz theres like 8 of these

dont use these solo

u should be using ur cds together

[minor swift]

I know exactly when this was, panic

[lofty depot]

do not surge outside of eclipse