balance

[trail oyster]

its in the compendium

[crude void]

thanks

[exotic perch]

brother why

you are going from eating the most precious a5 wagyu to eating hot dogs

[inner plover]

Heys guys, how do you feel in M+ with 4p.. doing 12+ keys and fucking falling behind every rogue, WL or dragons ..

[exotic perch]

and not even good quality hot dogs

[exotic perch]

yes that is normal

[inner plover]

i feel i did more DPS with old set then now 😄

[boreal brook]

Tanks chain pulling because new tank trinket lets you start your CA packs with a 6 stack moonlight suffusion.

If you're sending CA without suffusion stacks you're throwing

[craggy sonnet]

if you are holding FoN for 20s you are throwing as well

[lofty depot]

Should be spent after pressing ca

[hollow sparrow]

Follow up on that question - when do we use forge in the opener?

[balmy kelp]

Oi, do you stream anywhere? I want to see some raid footage just to understand some optimizations I may be missing. I know I can watch WCL replay etc.. but I want to see POV what it is you're doing.

[radiant wyvern]

how do we use 2 min trinkets for KOTG raid? on cd so we have it at 4 mins for convoke?

[lofty depot]

With ur ca

[hollow sparrow]

First or second

[lofty depot]

The first one

[digital berry]

So what you think it’s good to hold ca or foe for prolonged periods of time cause the rng isn’t in your favor? Surely that’s a dps loss

[lofty depot]

Convoke benefits from ur stats too

Well except haste :/

[hollow sparrow]

Yeah it felt like this but wasn’t sure if weird sim fun this tier! Thanks

Any updates on double on-use potential yet?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[inner plover]

you - prepull: wrath > wrath > starfire > sunfire > moonfire > CA > wrath > starsurge > trees > manage wraths and SS to keep AP around 70 > Driad buff UP > CA > SS > SS and then classic rotation

[radiant wyvern]

makes sense, thanks!

[boreal brook]

You can hold CA for a long ass time, and lose nothing, so yeah.

Send CA at good times, not on cd

[lofty depot]

When someone feels like trying git

But no

[digital berry]

No reason to wrath after ca since you can just double surge

[lofty depot]

Should be CA surge surge

[hollow sparrow]

No need to call me names smh 😂 thanks!

[inner plover]

on Dimensius you cant 😛

[digital berry]

So you’re banking on getting lucky with rng to get up to 6 stacks in a previous pull and bring them over while also potentially holding foe

[digital berry]

And why would that be

[lofty depot]

U can if u just cast wraths first

And then use ca

[tawdry bough]

why is everyone in raid have mastery -> crit?

[lofty depot]

Because Crit gooder

[digital berry]

Cause those are the stats we need

[boreal brook]

I just said don't send CA at 0 stacks. Aim for 6, but do the best you can.

[lucid blade]

Does anyone have a great plater profile specific for balance druid? I currently set my own up but im kinda scuffed at setting up pandemic windows etc.

[inner plover]

true

[lofty depot]

Jundies

[digital berry]

And I believe it’s better to send ca and foe at whatever stacks you’re at, since any amount of holding or delaying in ec is not good

[lucid blade]

I use luxthos WA wasnt aware he had a druid Plater. I use kalamazi since im coming from warlock but its not set up for balance so ive had to work around

[lucid blade]

Is jundies the name of a profile?

[balmy kelp]

I know maxroll has some limited information - does anyone have compiled a list of tips for the raid for min/maxing damage?

[boreal brook]

Nah, if you have a big heroism pull next, and there's 15s left in the current pull, I'm 100% holding my suffusion stacks.

24% amp in cds, in heroism, is worth losing one unbuffed cast

[tulip snow]

does that one plater mod that changes the nameplate color based on your dots work well with that?

I was thinking of giving the mod a shot for m+, but then I guess I'd lose the enemy colors

[lucid blade]

I have set up everything but pandemic window which im sure is easily googled and doable but was wondering if anyone had a great balance druid plater

[radiant wyvern]

I personally use a WA that changes the border size, I yoinked a feral rake WA for that though :)

[digital berry]

But it’s not one un buffed cast

Not to mention if you have a lust pack coming up you’re spending a ton of time dotting

[tulip snow]

there's a link to it at the bottom of the compendium

[lucid blade]

Didnt notice that.

[digital berry]

You are probably losing 2 foe and the buff is either expiring or you’re sending it while dotting

[tulip snow]

it's a bit buried at the bottom but that's where I found it 😄

[lofty depot]

Yes

[lofty depot]

Probably but I don't use it

[leaden birch]

i could never get into luxthos wa

ois wa though

[tulip snow]

fair enough, it's just those big pulls when I maybe miss some moonfires

[leaden birch]

[lofty depot]

Stop missing them

[tulip snow]

lmfao for sure 😄

[leaden birch]

yep, the math checks out

don't miss moonfires

[tulip snow]

[lofty depot]

Idk, I moonfire picture missing probably moonfire it

Idk why we need funny colors

[tulip snow]

maybe my scaling is messed up, the nameplates overlap so it's a bit hard to notice

[lofty depot]

Also the if the ones ur missing are on shitter adds it's w.e.

Dot the big doods

[haughty moon]

do you mind linking it?

[radiant wyvern]

https://wago.io/n26jkuGLi was the rake WA i tweaked, if you want me to just export mine I'd have to give you export which is better pasted in dms if you don't mind

[hollow bobcat]

how do we optimise for damage on 3rd boss

[haughty moon]

i would really appreciate that thank you

[hollow bobcat]

the adds get nuked before i caj wven finish setting up dots

so my dps is horrible

[tulip snow]

you... would? 😄

[lofty depot]

U don't dot the adds until intermission

Because those ones live long enough

[haughty moon]

do you have any idea how the top parses are optimizing that fight with ec?

[tulip snow]

blow cds out the gate, then save for first intermission?

[hollow bobcat]

so just focus main boss and keep doing ST rotation

[lofty depot]

They save CDs for the 2 intermission phases u do

[strange edge]

Starfire go brrr

[digital berry]

I love how you worded it

Optimize

When in reality you’re just asking how to pad

[haughty moon]

well i tried to do that last night in raid it it worked out horribly for me

and i wasn't trying to pad, my raid was dying to intermission mage cast

[digital berry]

Don’t waste time sending anything on ads that live for 3 seconds

[lofty depot]

Oddly enough the #1 parse on damage, is also the #1 on boss

[digital berry]

Do you not have Dks ?

[haughty moon]

we have two

it didn't fix until we start breaking both mages out before intermission

[lofty depot]

Recruitie goating

[digital berry]

I was sat on that boss or i would have padded harder then him

Wait he’s playing keeper

Interesting

[lofty depot]

Ye didn't pad tho

[haughty moon]

i felt like i had better results with keeper on the fight

[digital berry]

No kindling either

[lofty depot]

That's boss dam

[graceful plank]

Nice, you'll keep up with a 30% parsing Ele.

[digital berry]

I know

[urban crescent]

is natures balance worth taking even in fights with adds due to getting double surge on pull

[digital berry]

It’s really not that drastic quit dooming

[lofty depot]

Why do I care about the ele

[digital berry]

You can just surge wrath trees convoke

[urban crescent]

ty

[digital berry]

There’s is little value on nb compared to twin moons if you have to dot a bunch of shit

[fathom nebula]

Isnt Starsurge damage calculated on cast and not hit? So it doesnt matter at what range we cast our last two starsurges?

[digital berry]

I don’t get why people take twin moons on loom

[lofty depot]

Yea

[digital berry]

Yeah range is unimportant

[lofty depot]

Maybe they don't don't the first right away

I cba, was slamming surges into orbs

Maybe people swap better monday

[digital berry]

Did you kill it ?

[lofty depot]

Nah

[digital berry]

Oh yeah

[lofty depot]

People die to libes

Actually brainrot

[digital berry]

We got to like 25%

[urban crescent]

i keep forgetting to change to potent enchantments for loom

f

[digital berry]

They kill today but I can’t raid

Why would you need it

[lofty depot]

We got to 16%

[digital berry]

The fight is like 6:30 or smth

[urban crescent]

idk logs have it so i assume it lines up nicer with it

[digital berry]

Unless there’s some insane amp that potent enables I’m not gonna bother

[urban crescent]

loom has damage amp right

[digital berry]

Just do 2 1 in p1 and 2 1 in p2

[urban crescent]

i think its % based

[digital berry]

Yeah but it’s from 50% to 0

[urban crescent]

oh

[digital berry]

Not like 25 seconds

[urban crescent]

ah

roger

[lofty depot]

If the fight lasts uhh what 630

Or maybe it was 730

U can go 2 1 2 2

[digital berry]

It’s like 6:30

On average

[lofty depot]

And the 2nd 2 is at 4m after u phase

[urban crescent]

or i reroll lock and never have to think about it again thoughts chat

[digital berry]

Does potent enable an extra 2 set ?

[meager storm]

u get last ca charge at 6:25, if u have a kill timer faster than 6:37 u have to potent

[lofty depot]

Our 16% wipes were 7m lol

[digital berry]

I mean the phase depends on your dmg

We were phasing at 4:30

And I was holding cds for pot

[lofty depot]

Send and pot at 630

But u send CDs when u get amp

[digital berry]

That’s only if you have potent tho no

[meager storm]

u would want to send double ca at 6:15

[lofty depot]

No it's not

[meager storm]

with pot

[lofty depot]

If the fight lasts over 630

[tulip snow]

I was gonna ask about elune's guidance in ST, we hit the cap pretty easy right?

[lofty depot]

We hit cap easily yes

[digital berry]

6:30 is the breakthrough for 2 1 2 2?

[lofty depot]

We generally don't use eg

[unreal adder]

Hello everyone. Do you know where I can see current talents for pvp for balance?

[digital berry]

So you use pot on the last set of 2 in p2?

[digital berry]

Try the pvp channel

[meager storm]

it should be 2 1 1 2

[digital berry]

On lorrgs I see most people do 2 1 1 2 yeah

[worthy olive]

Is KOTG better in ST as EC now?

[digital berry]

Yeah

So the first convoke in p2 is a single convoke with no pot

[lofty depot]

Sorry it's 2 1 1 2 if 630

It's 2 1 2 2 if 730 iirc

But there's his

[sudden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[meager storm]

if 6:37

[digital berry]

Eww what is this

[lofty depot]

Dakds CA usage

[meager storm]

anything under that needs potent

[digital berry]

2 1 1 1 1?

[lofty depot]

Well he should've saved the 630 one

[meager storm]

i fucked up

[lofty depot]

But maybe he forgot

[tulip snow]

number of CA's to use iirc for the crit buff

[meager storm]

i sent first ca 2 secs earlier

[digital berry]

Did you go into p2 at 4?

[meager storm]

so i just held the 2nd ca

[lofty depot]

Froyo knows what we're talking about he troll

[meager storm]

we got to p2 at 4:30

its our first kill, we just got to the boss yesterday and one shot it

[digital berry]

Ohhh

Yeah makes sense that you’d just feelycraft

[sudden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-staring-cat-cat-mr-fresh-fresh-gif-4714710619997780774

[lofty depot]

Pylons hard 'guys it will choose a random group', uhhh I'm second on the list and it chose me

Fuggn brainrot

[digital berry]

You can always just refuse to do it

[meager storm]

you are a boomy and u are in for prog, u can not refuse

[digital berry]

Im also the top dps on our raid team most pulls

I bring smth to the table

[lofty depot]

They used 2 boomkins

Double boomkin tier

That's what dakd told me

[meager storm]

we will be first 2 boomy forgeweaver kill too holy

boomy is back

[lofty depot]

So back

[meager storm]

we will just send double ramp into echoes

[lofty depot]

"don't kill echoes Dak and recruitie will handle"

[urban crescent]

hey, anyone know how to make a macro change spell depending on your hero talents?

[meager storm]

not best dps wise but i want that araz trinket on my vault pool asap

[lofty depot]

What spell

#showtooltip
/cast [known:205636,@cursor] Force of Nature;
/cast [known:202425] Warrior of Elune;

Assume this is what ur gonna want

[urban crescent]

yeah thats it, i was also wanting one for bear to use lunar beam if EC, and rake if claw

[lofty depot]

This isn't guardian

Fuck outta here

[urban crescent]

ye but the spell is irrelevant just wondering if u knew the macro argument

or if one even exists

[lofty depot]

Yea but ur tacky and I hate u

[urban crescent]

what the

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-in-rain-gif-16989196319284498272

could you just do ifknown = (id of first talent in ec tree) cast lunar beam

or some shit

[lofty depot]

Well that's what the known part is for

[urban crescent]

ye ty ill mess around with it

[lofty depot]

But no not ifknown

It's not code

[urban crescent]

alright thanks

i wasnt sure the context

[lofty depot]

Myth Araz for me beats out people that don't have it

So it's quite literally only my bis and no one elses

[exotic perch]

no its my bis too

[lofty depot]

It's the guild bis frankly

[leaden birch]

yeah I'm prob gonna snap take antenna or araz if I see it in my vault

[plucky forge]

is it normal that Mug´s trinket sims better then many other trinket still or m i wrong xD

[leaden birch]

normal

[lofty depot]

yes

[leaden birch]

684 jug will beat out most things to almost 710

[lofty depot]

get more crit 🙂

[plucky forge]

k

[urban crescent]

whats the command to make a macro not take me out of a form if im already in it? i.e. if im in moonkin form, disable the macro from taking me out of moonkin form

[lofty depot]

depends on the form

#showtooltip Moonkin Form
/cast [nostance:4] Moonkin Form

bear is 1

[urban crescent]

thank you

i forgot stance is a thing i can use

[woeful chasm]

Any of y'all progging araz. When are you sending second convoke. There's only like 2 logs of boomie right now, and they send on pull, and giga hold until the damage amp, but I idk if that's worth losing an extra use or so

[lofty depot]

fight kidna weird

shuold be worth

now the funny part is if u get another doulbe use

so u would be 2 2 2

but kill time things

[leaden birch]

damn, y'all already on mythic araz?

actually I guess araz is the first wall that most guilds are progging right

soulbinder/loom a joke?

[lofty depot]

yes

well loom can cause some issues

[lucid beacon]

Kinda joke yes

[lofty depot]

but loom isnt rik

[leaden birch]

oh my 200 guilds done loom, 650 done soulbinder

[wary panther]

Loom was fairly trivialized with this reset's gear

For araz, the 12 second dmg amp is really cutting it close to get the 2 empowered SS with double CA

[lofty depot]

start earlier

or press 2nd ca earlier

[hollow bobcat]

whats stat priority for balance

[lofty depot]

depends whta ur doing

[hollow bobcat]

raiding

[lofty depot]

mastery crt/vers

sim your gear

[hollow bobcat]

i only have 1 gear set

[tulip snow]

what are we filling the rest of our first CA for after convoke? a cheeky starsurge and wraths before the buff starts?

[hollow bobcat]

just wondered

[robust monolith]

Do you always want to fit empowered starsurge from dryad fading in current CA over the last 2 second?

[lofty depot]

ye

[hollow bobcat]

so my soleah target is mastery

[lofty depot]

generally i was getting 2 surges

[lofty depot]

u can sim that too

but prob

[hollow bobcat]

cool

i main resto so i have haste mastery gear

both around 22k

[tulip snow]

[lofty depot]

u always want the buffed surges in ca

[hollow bobcat]

is parapodia good for balance

[lofty depot]

wheather thats with a new one or the current one

[leaden birch]

I think I was doing surge > wrath > wrath > CA/surge > surge

[lofty depot]

did u sim it

[leaden birch]

honestly, it's pure vibes at this point

I have no idea what I'm doing

[hollow bobcat]

no but my other option is nexus kings command

which by my testing wasnt very good

[lofty depot]

or mug jug

well thats a not dps trinket

that u would have to game

[robust monolith]

Its good for EC hero talent since is more haste oriented than kotg

[hollow bobcat]

I see

[wary panther]

it felt to me I always had to refresh sunfire as the last GCD of first CA to send two empowered SS with next CA, so after convoke was SS>wrath>sunfire>CA/SS etc

[hollow bobcat]

are both good in rair

raid

or do i just stick with kotg

[lofty depot]

keeper most of the time

[robust monolith]

Depends on the fight, not sure how this will turn in mythic since i only played hc

[lofty depot]

should be like 2-3 gcds into the new one

[robust monolith]

But maybe like on hunters you want EC

Still not sure

[lofty depot]

its ec on hunters

[hollow bobcat]

hunters aka the legendary nothingburger

[lofty depot]

could be ec on araz

[wary panther]

I have 6k haste, not very fast wraths :/ probably playing it too safe

[lofty depot]

lock in

[lofty depot]

i have 4k

[frozen solar]

welp

[robust monolith]

Played yesterday EC on araz i enjoyed a lot

[frozen solar]

am i the only 709 bozo here?

[wary panther]

My experience is that balance druids aren't getting much loot atm

[frozen solar]

went EC on soulbinder reclear and got jbaited nothing lived

[lofty depot]

if u dont r1

[frozen solar]

i did not 🙁

[lofty depot]

i see a lot of balance druids getting loot

[frozen solar]

I went EC like an diot

[robust monolith]

Exaclty the same still got 95

[lofty depot]

but they happen to be the good balance druids

[frozen solar]

709.38 now

smh

[lofty depot]

getting a lot of myth loot hm

[frozen solar]

🤷

[wary panther]

vault was unkind and sitting at 195 gilded myself

[lofty depot]

assume u got weapon and shoulders

[frozen solar]

i crafted wewp

[wary panther]

well, 135 crafted weap yeah

[frozen solar]

myth helm + chest

[robust monolith]

Btw i feel like current boomy is by far the worst in tww

[lofty depot]

hm

[frozen solar]

voidspire didnt outsim others so i got go ahead to craft

guild manging it mostly tbh

this first 2 weeks

[lofty depot]

no 2nd embell hm

[frozen solar]

next craft

will do wrist

[lofty depot]

hmm

[frozen solar]

ye i was meant to sim

earlier today someone said

still ahvent 😄

[urban crescent]

mastery ench simmed higher for me 💀

[frozen solar]

aiit

ye

[urban crescent]

void ritual :lfg:

[frozen solar]

i put it before cuz it kept giving me the error 😄 havent removed it

[leaden birch]

my sims are making me go hella crit

[frozen solar]

best disabled ench ngl

[leaden birch]

swapped to devout zealot ring, enchanted both rings to crit, all gems have crit

is anyone rn doing more tank dmg than brew in keys?

their dmg is insane

[spark inlet]

wait I thought the reshii cloak couldnt be enchanted

[leaden birch]

most def can be

[spark inlet]

holy shit ive been under a rock

[urban crescent]

am i holding 2nd trees to line up with convoke for the single ca after the opener double ca?

i notice convoke is 15 seconds off or so usually when i have trees + ca

[frank grotto]

think u use 2nd treants and align with 3rd treants

[urban crescent]

ty

[frozen solar]

😛

[meager storm]

its 4th treants and u dont hold them

[urban crescent]

i just mean if i have trees ready and convoke is 15-25 seconds away do i hold trees? compendium would seem to say so but i just wanna confirm

[lofty depot]

Well that's not 2nd trees

3rd trees is 115 and u can generally send

[urban crescent]

yeah sry i couldnt remember which trees it was

[lofty depot]

Actually it's more like 117 or 120 now

But nonetheless

[spark inlet]

I know i should sim this, but what are your preferences between elusive and culminating blasphemite?

[lofty depot]

Crit good

Movement if u suck at movement

Ezpz

[near bronze]

anyone else got the problem they cant sim dungeon slice ?

[mighty mica]

unknown but balance doesnt care

[raw shoal]

Hi I got a question regarding the trinket "Araz's Ritual Forge" - why does sims tell me not to wear it? It wants me to wear Lily from Eco instead

[spark inlet]

i figured elusive has been a safe pick for me personally

[lofty depot]

Read the warning maybe

[lofty depot]

Show sim

[round field]

show sim

i dont believe you

[lofty depot]

Before we kinda didn't care, now we like Crit and Crit dam

[frozen solar]

with EC m+ build its a side grade, but with convoke surely forge is much higher

[raw shoal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9itVWJSYR4Te3rSECnrNmd - one target
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wuuZRnzA5JYGfyn7hwwqQc - multi target

[lofty depot]

Bet he Sims 5t 2m

[frozen solar]

for me i mean*

[round field]

why are we simming

aoe talent ec in st

[raw shoal]

cause I only play m+

^^

[lofty depot]

What m+ situation is 5t5m

Sounds like a banger

[gritty granite]

Why not MDT sim ?

[lofty depot]

Ur funny sim gets an extra Lily use

And it's still only 1% better

Lol

[raw shoal]

because someone told me to sim like that to not overproportionate on use trinkets or something - bad english lol

[lofty depot]

Who's that some one

[round field]

does he play mage perchance

[lofty depot]

Feel free to ignore them

[raw shoal]

xD

[drifting plank]

breakdown from a flood +12, last season starfall was always on top, but now most dgs starfire is either top dmg or very close to starfall

[leaden birch]

ye starfire bangs

[drifting plank]

i'm not doing anything different

[round field]

uh

something something

4p starfall dmg last season

[leaden birch]

take a peep at your max crit starfire lol

[raw shoal]

yes !

[leaden birch]

shit slams

[drifting plank]

18m lol

very nice

[lofty depot]

Old tierset buff Starfall

[leaden birch]

https://tenor.com/view/mo-powa-babeh-james-pumphrey-donut-media-more-power-baby-give-it-more-power-gif-18630619

[urban crescent]

if im not sure how long a fights gonna last on shit like heroic do i just send 2 1 2 in terms of ca

[nova yarrow]

would u guys prefer for nexus-king raid single target (Keeper) or raid multi target (keeper)

[tulip snow]

the add phase is only a small part of the fight, right?

[nova yarrow]

yea but boss sit on dragon also in p2

[tulip snow]

I'd probably just zug zug ST

[gray bluff]

Anyone have any idea why ST sims would be telling me to go crit, while all I see are people stacking mastery/haste?

[mighty mica]

do you want to follow sims or do you want to follow leaderboards, take your pick

[normal pilot]

who's stacking haste?

[gray bluff]

That doesn’t really answer my question, but the answer would be whichever is better

[mighty mica]

because it doesn't matter what others are running

[gray bluff]

What I mean is Mastery > Haste

[normal pilot]

who's doing that

[gray bluff]

I’m just looking through logs. I don’t have anyone in particular that I’m tuning in to

Could be looking in the wrong places, that’s why I came here 😂

[normal pilot]

they just might not have anything better

and or don't care to sim since spec is kinda shitty

genrally looking thru logs for gearing isn't a useful thing to do since you have no idea what gear is available to ppl

[gray bluff]

I’ve been told to look at Simcraft gearing, but not sure how valuable that information is either

[normal pilot]

wdym look at simcraft

gearing you just need to run top gear on raidbots.com

[rough marten]

need them to lock in and kill dimensius so we can get sum buffs for raid

below aug is criminal

[gray bluff]

Some have told me to look at the gear used for the sim on simcraft website. Not saying I’m doing that, just something I was told to use as a guideline

[normal pilot]

oh no

[crude void]

Below aug and Elune's 4pc is so misaligned with the whole spec its ridicoulus. They are really disconnected with their own game

[normal pilot]

whoever told you that has absolutely no idea what he's talking about

[low dove]

maybe if we cry like ret we'll get buffs?

[normal pilot]

the website are just sample submissions, they're not guidelines for anything

you could have literally anyone from here submit a sample and be on that website

[gray bluff]

Yeah, I use top gear and all that, so I understand that.

Thanks for the clarification on that

I’ll just continue to use top gear/droptemizer and hope I get the best results.

[normal pilot]

that's what everyone else does including all the guides

[crude void]

droptimizer is kinda bad

atleast in my experience

Top Gear über alles

[lofty depot]

Ain't no one stacking haste

The only reason they would, is because they don't know or can't adapt

[ocean condor]

m+ haste is second stat though no?

[lofty depot]

No one cares

Who's looking at logs for people's stats in m+

Degenerates man

[fathom nebula]

You guys got a WA that counts Control of the Dream?
I had a script done for Shroms WA but now that i updated i lost it

[lofty depot]

Counts?

[fathom nebula]

I just had something that counted down the hypothetical cooldown

[lofty depot]

Seems odd

[fathom nebula]

Like it would say 45 then count down to 30 on this icon as an example

Just a minor thing i was used to 🙁

[digital berry]

I’ve never seen such a weak aura, doesn’t seem super useful but I guess it can have a niche

[warm flint]

Guys am I trippin? I´ve not played S2 so I dont have that belt. now I wonder if its worth to swap my (shitstats) 694 belt with said 701 fancy belt. Sim says abolutely not, my guild says Its mandatory until BiS/high myth track belt?:D

[gentle scroll]

I replaced mine with a 701 belt from raid.

[round field]

[lofty depot]

Yea u probably should've done that week 0

And then get a new raid belt or myth belt at some point

[warm flint]

Mh. I´m a m+ player & like the "top" players are all using it.
So it just does not sim correctly?

[lofty depot]

"I'm an m+ player" doesn't change what u should do

Vers proc pretty decent regardless

[warm flint]

Yes I was just wondering as my sim says it´s a significant dmg loss

[digital berry]

Are you simming it without any power inside ?

Show sim

[warm flint]

Oh
I get an important delivery of some stones so can´t send sim (you might be correct but that would be embarrasing)

[digital berry]

What

[meager storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/434113367938957315/1286443496118554686/caption.gif

[low sigil]

can anyone tell me if im doing the new opener for 4pc correctly?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/b4HwF3Vdh9MtT2xq?fight=4&type=casts&source=115&view=events
I'm unsure if i'm popping the second CA at the right time. Any input is appreciated. It was my first time doing the new opener last night

[lofty depot]

This is gonna be a fun problem when people ask without a vod

[digital berry]

Not correct

[lofty depot]

Cuz me going in and track dryad buff is yucky

[digital berry]

You’re using tees immediately into va

[lofty depot]

Sent trees too early

[low sigil]

oh that's right!

[digital berry]

You’re also going afk after convoke

[warm flint]

You´re right. Thanks

[lofty depot]

Also didn't send 2 buff surges in ca

[digital berry]

Unforch

That’s a lot of wrath’s

[low sigil]

is that about 1 second of delayed time after convoke ended right?

[digital berry]

Almost 4 seconds

[low sigil]

but convoke is a 4 second channel. you saying its 4 second of not doing anything after that channel is done?

[digital berry]

You convoke, throw a surge and then afk

[lofty depot]

Well that surge is after convoke

[low sigil]

ohh i see, let me look

[lofty depot]

So ur afk for 4 seconds after the surge

[low sigil]

i wonder if i was running out with that debuff or something

[lofty depot]

Which btw

[low sigil]

i will double check usually i don't do that

[lofty depot]

If u fuck up ur trees like this u can press CA with trees 2 seconds left

The dryad doesn't matter ur just losing some wrath in CA damage

Or maybe a surge on ca

U should just play correctly, but if u fuck it up for some reason, u can fix it

[low sigil]

oh wait i think i know what i was trying to do.. let me reference gamz video real quick. i might have misunderstood something and maybe you guys can help me

i see i screwed up trees, i think i corrected that in another fight. i didn't have much time before raid to practice the new opener

[frail junco]

Question: Does Goldrinn do full damage from a starsurge that has been proced by 2p EC ?

or does he scale down?

[lofty depot]

It's not supposed to proc at all, but does anyway

But yea it does (iirc)

[frail junco]

<_> so i guess it's doing full damage ?

until blizz removes it ?

[lofty depot]

Look at the avg hit, vs ur others

[stone ledge]

simple question about ec, is there any merit to holding fury to gain additional stacks of moonlight before sending or only before CA windows

[lofty depot]

Well they said they removed it

Kek

[lofty depot]

Gamz said no :/

[low sigil]

https://youtu.be/g7ljpozVgsg?t=240

at about 4:02 he mentions waiting for the dryad to drop off. i think that is what i was trying to do but executed the idea poorly

[lofty depot]

He also said "wait spend"

And then said ur waiting for it to end

The same principals still apply while waiting

Don't overcap asp

And "u surge twice before ur ca ends"

[low sigil]

i see. he says wait spend like once which is what i did.. but after that i just stopped and didn't do anything where it looks like gamz is continuing to wrath until the dryad falls, then he CAs again and continues. is this correct or am i still misunderstanding?

[sinful surge]

Can someone motivate me to raid as boomkin rq
Locked in my spec with my guild before i realized how hard we strugglin atm

[lofty depot]

He's wrathing because he's not capped on asp

Because he sent a surge so he didnt

[round field]

Log off lilbro

[lofty depot]

But yes again, same principals apply. Don't overcap, pool asp for end

[low sigil]

yeah that is what i remember too. i spent a surge so i didn't cap. but then i just sat there waiting on the dryad buff to fall off.

[lofty depot]

Lock in

[sinful surge]

I just need to push myself harder

[lofty depot]

Be better than ur guildies

[meager storm]

is that a r2 i see

[sinful surge]

Some of them are cracked and im new to raidimg 😭

[low sigil]

i love this new rotation. its fun playing around the dryad buff and trying to get the 2 buffed surges

[lofty depot]

It was r1 at the time

R2 world tho

[meager storm]

[sinful surge]

I think im also just week 2 depression rn

Had dawnbreaker brrak to typhoon twice now

And got 4pc and did the same dmg to a T the next pull as i did 0pc

[meager storm]

check if i had ur kill time

[lofty depot]

Did u change ur rotation

[cyan thistle]

I m struggling on cleaves boss but 1st on ST like fracti and plexus 🫠 druid is good when you love it 😄

[sinful surge]

No :(

[lofty depot]

That's a normal dimmy log

[meager storm]

i know

[lofty depot]

Hmm wonder why

[meager storm]

holy is boomy back

[lofty depot]

(cuz we change duh)

Holy

[low sigil]

Nyx, go watch that gamz video and just sit at the training dummies and practice it. i think its so much fun. im loving it. i just need more time to practice. ishould have better results next week

[lofty depot]

Our was like what 630

625

[sinful surge]

Idk what changes, i just got curio then slammed my 2 cat charges and got summomed back for boss

[lofty depot]

Should do some research u know

[sinful surge]

Cant research dueing prog 😭

[lofty depot]

Yea do it before

[meager storm]

people will see this and think boomy is good

[lofty depot]

U think all of us play the rotation well cuz we didn't sit on a training dummy in ptr?

[lofty depot]

Fuggn pi rat

[stone ledge]

who you payin

[sinful surge]

No, idk where you'd get this conclusion from either

[meager storm]

yeah man that 60k dps from pi made a bigger diff than the kill time for sure

[digital berry]

I didn’t try the rotation once before pulling m plex

[meager storm]

it was 6.6 milly with ur kill time

[lofty depot]

Who

[digital berry]

Your dad

[lofty depot]

I should've sent earlier

I knew it was gonna be close

But wanted to wait for double ca

[digital berry]

Greed is a helluva drug

[lofty depot]

Gonna go stand on people so we get longer kill time

[meager storm]

u want the opposite

[lofty depot]

No I dont

I want specifically 7:35

And it died at 722

So close to greatness

[meager storm]

just kill it faster so u do 2 1 1 2

[lofty depot]

Yea surely

The. 5 people die and we kill at 8m

And I tilt

[low sigil]

Thank you guys for helping me i appreciate it.

Something else I'm struggling with is what to do when 2 adds are broken free on soulbinder. they die so fast and im not sure if i should just tunnel the boss or dot the adds, starfall.. seems like so many other classes benefit when those come out and i fall behind in dps immediately.

[lofty depot]

U ignore them

[low sigil]

cool that makes it easy

[lofty depot]

Should delete them from log, fuck those adds

Delete all the add damage from that fight

[low sigil]

whenever all of the adds are broken free, should i be saving CA for that and starfall? it seems like those take a little longer to die

[lofty depot]

Yea they come out a little after 2m

Then u get big splash on dryads favor

[low sigil]

thank you

[digital berry]

I wonder what they’ll gut about the dimensius fight for us mortals

[lucid olive]

p2 add hp

blowback strength

p2 little adds cast time

[digital berry]

That blow is insane

Do you reckon anything is gonna get nerfed before rwf is over ?

[slim iris]

It’s over in like a day so no

[lucid olive]

nah

they are gonna nerf p2 add hp and some p3 shit to make the fight free

[lofty depot]

Boss die saturday

[lucid olive]

and they're gonna push it as a hotfix right as one guild starts their day and the other guild is ending their day

and its gonna be big drama

just watch

i called it now

[celest narwhal]

Like always!

[digital berry]

Hopefully it’s echo I need max’s ego to be hit this tier

[lofty depot]

Liquid 3 peat type shit

[lucid olive]

shit

[celest narwhal]

Both guilds get their raid centers swatted and method wins

[digital berry]

If the fight had a secret phase we’d know it by now or nah

[lofty depot]

Yea totally

Secret visions stormwind run phase

[drifting nova]

can we nerf ele shams ty

[digital berry]

Just buff us let them have their moment

[drifting nova]

I didnt lose to one I swear

[digital berry]

Its not a competition it’s a team effort

[frigid rover]

I don't care who wins I'm rooting for everyone just kill it fast so they do a tuning release

[drifting nova]

tuning? we dont do that here

[frigid rover]

Couldn't let me dream for 5 seconds

[digital berry]

I mean it’s gonna be dead by Tuesday no doubt

[lofty depot]

Who needs tuning

[drifting nova]

too much dream stating

[lofty depot]

We're fine right now

[frigid rover]

Arcs on that good good cause he got araz trinket first week

[lofty depot]

[digital berry]

Fine

[drifting nova]

am I dumb

how do you upgrade cloak

[digital berry]

Yes

Unlock the passive tree node

[lofty depot]

Yes fine

[digital berry]

You can speak to the npc or use the script

[lofty depot]

Get ur money up not ur funny up

[drifting nova]

yeah I mean the currency

[digital berry]

Normal

Run delves 8 +

Or raid bosses

[lofty depot]

Know your niche

[pallid bay]

[digital berry]

Normal week 1 with 16% buff and nobody has 4p

[lofty depot]

U all thought it was 3t spread cleave. I give u

[drifting nova]

fake news, warriors too high

[lofty depot]

It's week 2

[drifting nova]

a week too late then

[lofty depot]

Everyone have 4p

Except my mage, cuz it's in the pits

[obtuse creek]

guys

have some WA for tracking moonlight stack?

to add Luckyone

[digital berry]

Check compendium in pins

[drifting nova]

tf you mean everyone

[digital berry]

I do and that’s all that matters

[lofty depot]

True

All my homies have 4p

[obtuse creek]

i not find any WA-s for that

i need only tracker

[frigid rover]

Normal we do kinda pop off but the fights are all 2mins lol

[digital berry]

https://wago.io/EmG9Y5v4v

All you gotta do is go to goggle and type wago + the thing you wanna track, 9 times out of 10 you find it

[obtuse creek]

ty

[lofty depot]

Time to find a working expected kill time weakaura

[digital berry]

Ehh I mean no matter what it’s not gonna be right

An estimation only takes you so far

[burnt sigil]

Hello, twin moons 10% buff damage count for moonfire impact and dot ? Or only impact ?

[digital berry]

Both afaik

[drifting nova]

if I try mount again on dimensius and dc ima lose it

[errant flint]

@lucid olive in your 11.2 video recently, doing ST, you mentioned using the 2nd CA in the opener for 2nd dryad buff for starsurge. Is this 2nd CA usuage sooner only for the opener?

[lucid olive]

You can do it after like 4 minutes as well if you'll have both CA charges up

Kind of depends on the fight as well

[errant flint]

Finishing heroic and the fights very short

[lucid olive]

yeah idk just go to lorrgs and rip what other people are doing

[errant flint]

kk ty

[gleaming kiln]

Hi the AOE rotation in M+ doesn't change anything with new tier, right? It's a full CD as always. Dont need hold fury of elune

[lucid olive]

correct

[gleaming kiln]

Ty

[ivory comet]

Is there like a page for how to sim for m+?

[lucid olive]

FAQ in Compendium

[ivory comet]

tyy

[royal zenith]

love having confidence

[fast parcel]

Played a couple balance keys with 4p, I hate the buff rng

[raven totem]

Is sacbrood not very good for balance? Sims lower for me than mythic mugzee trinket... I was surprised by that

[fast parcel]

Don’t gain any stacks when starfire spamming for 20s, rip on cooldown dmg next pack

[frozen solar]

dang skil worm didnt die tonight!

[plain fiber]

If im not using natures balance can i wrath>starsurge my first globals of ca or should i pool for 2x surge?

Cant find anything in compendium

[snow elm]

does boat stack twice when you enter eclipse and then incarn, because i see two stacks of the boat buff

or is it just an overriding thing

[quiet drift]

y

Only reason CA is a cooldown is because it double dips all Eclipse buffs

[pallid bay]

i'd pool

[lofty depot]

we like stats

[lofty depot]

each eclipse has its own boat yes

[raven totem]

run after I got the dawnbreaker one.. empowering crystal... its only as good as mugzee

[lofty depot]

ye

but has more int

and int good

[pallid ice]

This may be in the FAQ, but i have just started playing Balance today and im really struggling to get the rotation down, would you guys have any tips?

[lucid olive]

Maybe yours, my Eclipses have a yacht each

[lofty depot]

read the guide, watch the video in said guide

[lucid olive]

Read Compendium linked in channel description and pins

[lofty depot]

ask questions

[lofty depot]

https://tenor.com/view/swolf-ape-gang-ape-gang-pirate-gif-22395840

[pallid ice]

thank you

[lofty depot]

nah thats ur boat bud

[pallid ice]

i will most likely be back

[raven totem]

yeah guess I use it

did you guys craft weapons?

[lofty depot]

2h

[humble talon]

If I craft enchanted hero bracer and then recraft it later to myth track, will teh socket stay ?

[lofty depot]

s2 sockey wont stay

[humble talon]

s3 sockey

[lofty depot]

if u have a s3 sockey on it, it will

[humble talon]

im a bit of a sockey jockey you see

[lofty depot]

ive gotten 2 sockeys this season

[idle mantle]

Hey folks, have question. What is this avg cast means? I have more casts overall (not much but still/ mine are 353/194) and yet this avg cast is higher on the other person and in overall he made like over 1M more dps than me by the end of key. I was dotting all the mobs for sure, finish time was almost same but on many logs i see, i have more casts but less avg cast. What is this thing about?

[raven totem]

did you still opt for ascension?

[maiden pasture]

fuck this spec im going kitty

[lofty depot]

if u craft weapon, u asc

[raven totem]

thats sick for feral 😮

[raven totem]

aight ty

[lofty depot]

avg damage the cast does

[idle mantle]

so with higher stats, ilvl and even with buffs my casts still does less. Any idea why?

[lofty depot]

post the log and not a screenshot of starfire and starfall and maybe i can help

[idle mantle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BfyvYjCWZHp49a3z?fight=3&type=damage-done&source=247
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JfkBj3zGy4m7WKYX?fight=1&type=damage-done&source=2

im Kaflowy in those logs

[raven totem]

Could they have been doing bigger pulls? Thinking of starfall damage

[idle mantle]

I mean last time one of the community members pointed out im not dotting everything so I made an improvement ( i think) and overall damage done was higher

But those logs are from lets say top 50+ and better people do like almost 9M dps overall

so its scares me and drives crazy in same time

I know pulls have a big meaning but idk what im doing that wrong

[true viper]

do u ever hold foe for the tier set ever with ec or is it the same loop from last season

[teal sphinx]

[lofty depot]

ur sequencing is just bad

idk why u send ca here

its tiny and u dont have foe

[idle mantle]

So i should work on sequencing more, like focus on not casting that stupid wraths sometimes and plan CA better ?

[lofty depot]

u also do this

ur sending incarn without foe just so often

do u know that it increases ur damage

[idle mantle]

So i should send CA only when i have FoE?

[lofty depot]

u can press ca at any point of the 100s cooldown til the next ca

just because u have it doesnt mean u "have" to use it

u would be holding it til atleast the next foe

then add a condition of "is there a bigger pack right after this than this piss 5mob 1b hp pack"

[pallid ice]

whats foe?

[idle mantle]

ok got it, need to make it work

[lofty depot]

fury of elune

[pallid ice]

oh ok ty

another question sry, but when in single target i want to make i only stay in solar eclipse while aoe is lunar

[lofty depot]

not necessarily

u go to lunar if u can get value out of starfire spamming

u can still press starfall in solar

[digital berry]

So if there’s a lot of high hp mobs stacked = lunar spam starfire spend on starfall, if there’s a lot of high hp mobs spread and you can’t hit at least 2/3( don’t remember exact math) you go lunar use wrath spend with starfall

[plain fiber]

@lucid olive do you know the answer to this one?

[lucid olive]

Whatever the vibe is really

[plain fiber]

Hmm okay fair enough

[lofty depot]

damn he didnt trust oi's response

thats crazy

[plain fiber]

Playing based on vibes is what i do

[plain fiber]

Its not that i dont trust it but it didnt sound like he knew for sure

I wasnt familiar with his game, my bad

Im new here

[lofty depot]

hes an expert

[frozen sedge]

hey guys! wasnt really followed what's with boomie, could you tell me is 2p+2p worth in EC in m+

[lofty depot]

yes

[frozen sedge]

or i can still run 4p uc

[lofty depot]

2p2p

[frozen sedge]

ty

[drifting nova]

tank bugged on shitbreakers ship ..amazing dungeon

[obsidian jetty]

dono if you got it already. But I use this. It will rake then rip with 2 button presses, then I just mangle with another key. Pops lunar beam with trinkets in EC. Can remove w/e you like.

/cast [known:441691,noform:2]Rake
/cast [known:441691,form:2]Rip
/cast [known:204066]Lunar beam
/use [known:204066]14
/use [known:204066]13
/use [known:204066]Best-in-Slots

[drifting nova]

god this vote is so dumb

how do you evne do it

[fathom nebula]

Im checking the statistics and im wondering, when do we shut down our discord or have we already made that joke and i missed it?

[lofty depot]

just play better

[normal pilot]

yo not worst ranged class

[lofty depot]

if u go to max, were not the worst in any of them

[livid jay]

https://warcraftrecorder.com/link/4a11aca3-d58b-4eee-bf48-d92f6433c1ad

xD

100,6 million damage with one starfire

-> deadge

[lofty depot]

please never post a video again

ur weakaura gave me cancer

[pallid bay]

Be nice

[lofty depot]

i cant, im dying

[livid jay]

I even fixed my weakaura bro

not completely

but its mostly symmetrical again cause i moved defensives up and utility down

[fathom nebula]

Ive only done one mythic boss and it looked like this:

I just assumed it was the norm 😄

[lofty depot]

that boss is cringe

[normal pilot]

oh you're looking at cope metric

[lofty depot]

type shit

[meager storm]

surely since the cap is so low they make the splash dmg like 40%

[fathom nebula]

It acts exactly like a Starsurge but we arent picking any starsurge talents so its poop, right?

[normal pilot]

someone will have reported that the tooltip is wrong and says 10% so they'll just fix it to be 10%

[meager storm]

[lofty depot]

what surge talents are we not picking

[acoustic pawn]

what are we guys doing because of jastors? apparently it's bugged?

[lofty depot]

im doing nothing, because im not wearing it

[acoustic pawn]

What are you wearing instead babes

send pics

[acoustic pawn]

valid

[earnest sage]

can some tell me please quick what stats to pick for crafting staff

crit haste?

[proven swallow]

Sim it

[obsidian jetty]

depends entirely on your gear. The robot will know, none of us will know what's best. General combos are M/C M/V C/V M/H

also depends on ST or AOE

and EC vs Keeper

so just sim

[vital hound]

[digital berry]

Probably mastery crit or mastery vers for kotg and mastery haste for ec

[sick stratus]

Does anyone have a video to explain the balance rotation? I’m getting back into it and also want to set up some macros so any links would be appreciated

[lofty depot]

theres one in the dreamgrove.gg guide

[digital berry]

Damn you fast Arctic

[lofty depot]

120wpm

type shit

[drifting nova]

I pray for keys to cease existing in midnight

but given blizzards track record of removing archaic parts of the game

I must pray harder

[lofty depot]

too many people keep their sub to play m+

so unforch its staying

[normal pilot]

cant wait for keystone delves

[tardy fiber]

keystone world tiers

[drifting nova]

sure..but the physical key system

is old

[crude void]

How much would Araz trinket even boost on this?

[drifting nova]

if I see my key turn into another floodgate

[lofty depot]

what is that from

[crude void]

Araz heroic

[lofty depot]

no the boss dawg

[crude void]

Then I dont get the question

[lofty depot]

what boss

did u

surge

[crude void]

Araz heroic

[surreal sorrel]

Forgeweaver

[crude void]

literally

[surreal sorrel]

XD

[lofty depot]

grr

[crude void]

And I dont have the trinket yet coz it was given to the guild's gray log warlock because 'warlock is op'

[delicate perch]

[lofty depot]

theortical dps vs actual

tragic really

[opaque cedar]

do you want to send ur empowerd surges before ur celestial alignment ends or in the start of next eclipse?

[lofty depot]

in ca

[opaque cedar]

ty

[lofty depot]

read thhe guide

[crude void]

Technically if you send it in ur second CA you should be like maxing out your next pool in 2 surges

[opaque cedar]

will do just wanted a quick answer for now 🙂

[lofty depot]

well ur pressing ca before that

he said next eclipse as if he wasnt using double ca

and didnt know he should press at the end of that one

and or doesnt know u should be double ca-ing

which again, read the guide

[crude void]

ah ye okay if you dont do double then ye in CA

Do we know that 4set snapshots your int on CA or no?

[lofty depot]

its your int when the dryad despawns

[crude void]

got it thanks

[obsidian jetty]

the 4p is capped based on your int. So it's pretty good

[crude void]

Yeah I need that

I want to shoot other guys openers with 2 surges

[craggy sonnet]

ec keys are absolute pain right now .. where are my haste accessories

[crude void]

EC 4set is so disconnected to the spec its pathetic

[drifting nova]

multi dollar company cant keep the blizzard service up so keys cant start

[craggy sonnet]

it feels disgustingly bad to look at the stacks

[rustic lotus]

Why are we still so fucking squishy? If I don’t have barkskin I’m in bear form on a 13

[lofty depot]

i didnt feel that way

eeler ish

[crude void]

It's not even that to follow the stack. You basically can't use the 6 stack when you have full CD unless you pre stack it on previous pack and the tank is going like Max Verstappen

coz u will drop it

[craggy sonnet]

yea

i didnt mean looking at the stacks but how shit it is to play around

[crude void]

Yeah it totally shits on the elune's playstyles

[craggy sonnet]

first pull already tilted

[crude void]

And they even nerfed it when the last balance druid tuning happened sometimes I feel like it doesnt procc in 10 starfires

[craggy sonnet]

no idea why they even nerfed the proc rate

ffs make it more reliable and decrease % per stack

idc

this is horrible

[crude void]

Also 40% chance on a 2 sec cast spell is pepega

[lofty depot]

thank god we care about ec playstyle

kek

[crude void]

Well you play Elune on Soul Hunters and possibly on 3rd boss aswell

[lofty depot]

lol i aint playing that shit on soulbinder

[warm meteor]

im a bit confused with the 2p, on a m+ big pull where im drowing in ap do i spam starfall or do i need to spam more starfires?

[lean trail]

do i use FoE only if i have 6 or it is about to run out? or do i use FoE on CD? i think i waste so much FoE usages

[lofty depot]

need to get out of cap

otherwise the starfire wont proc the tier

[lofty depot]

on cd

[crude void]

You use Fury on cd

You basically do the same as in s1 and s2

and pray you have stack for shit to change

[warm meteor]

so basically spam starfire till cap opener etc, then get 3x stacks of haste then back to starfire till capped then some starfall then back to starfire?

[craggy sonnet]

actually you do not do the same as in s2

s2 you could just rip incarn and have guaranteed foe from tier

[lofty depot]

u doont need to full dump starfalls

but yes

u want to get as many starfires in ca as possible

[warm meteor]

basically yoyo the ap

for the 2p

[lofty depot]

starfire should be ur main damage source

[craggy sonnet]

and then be very sad when you proc some random ap and still cap during your starfire cast

[warm meteor]

seems like it

[stuck quartz]

only press SF to avoid overcapping

but sometimes if feels better to just blast starfire

[warm meteor]

damn they butchered sF

[lofty depot]

shouldnt seem like it, it is

[crude void]

If you don't just use FoE as in s6 you are dealing like 6% less damage

I mean s2

Basically this Elune 4set is only making sense if you have double CA

[stuck quartz]

we've entered arms warrior territory chat

[lofty depot]

just play better

[crude void]

Its good for getting us buffed its all staged

[stuck quartz]

im 95 percentile decent enough

[sage maple]

q for all, on st, dont we usually pop the second incarn with trees? why is everyone incarn'ing right after the first one finishes. is this a gameplay change bc of the forge trinket?

[surreal sorrel]

New Keeper 4p Playstyle

[crude void]

its coz the tier set

[sage maple]

oo ok, so we just use everything on cd now? dont look to line things up?

[dapper wing]

2,1,2

[digital berry]

Check the rotation section in compendium

[drifting nova]

remind me again why valorstones exist

[crude void]

To sit on cap except when you really need it coz then you have 0

[lofty depot]

read the guide

the point is to get the buffed surges in ur trees window and 2nd ca

[plucky wadi]

hmm so advantage of crafting 2 hand is only saving some resources right? So if I plan on getting the raid Voidglass Kriss at some point, is there any reason to not craft 1hander for now?

[lofty depot]

well u craft 2h and by the time u have more sparks maybe uve killed or are close to killing fractilly

[plucky wadi]

yeah I guess thats smarter probably

Thing is I was so unly with gear, literally did 12 10s and got 0 items I can wear lmao. All I got is an offhand. Im literally still full s2

[lofty depot]

is 12 10s a lot

[plucky wadi]

Well not really but would expect to get couple items I can equip in those 12 x)

[lofty depot]

ive been on too many 3 dungeon grinds to assume im getting anything i need from a dungeon

this tier was the first tier i got preraid geared in under 100 dungeons

[plucky wadi]

Yeah I mean Im not really complaining. Im not worried about early game anyway. Just funny how day 1 I was getting invited into every +10 I signed up, now I cant get into anything at all cause everyone is 700 and im 690 still x) So I run my own keys which ofc is not a problem. Just my story if anyone wasted 5sec reading this

[craggy sonnet]

i gotta ask, since it doesnt sound like it .. are you raiding mythic?

because if not, then you do not even have to care about fractillus weap

[plucky wadi]

Yeah I will. I just didnt play much these 2 weeks because im busy with work so I skipped hc raids my guild did

But it will be a while until we get to it

[drifting dragon]

do we want to enter CA with low ap now with EC talents in m+?

[lofty depot]

idk if low

but u should just slam starfalls at the start of ca

[sage maple]

do you use/know of a wa to track the window

[lofty depot]

which window

do u not use a pack that tracks ur buffs or cds

[vital hound]

i read my blizzard ui buffs

and decide from there

[delicate perch]

I use chatgpt to read them to me

[sage maple]

dryads favor

[mighty mica]

log off

[vital hound]

LOG IN

[delicate perch]

[vital hound]

ChatGrantProTips to the rescue

[civic girder]

Does our rotation change for EC if we got 4pc

[lofty depot]

https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet
or use the OiBalance pack cuz its better than what ur using

[drifting dragon]

by low I mean like

do we prefer to send double starfire or double starfall

[lofty depot]

well often times i have a lot or enough for at least 1 starfall

in which cast im sending a starfall

[deft bough]

probably forge on pull right? then lily when it comes up

[unique dirge]

Guys i'm really stupid and cant figure out this four set in M+

It feels SO bad

I hate RNG 🙁

are there any writeups on how to use this properly? I feel like I'm saving my fury of elune and losing dps