i thought it was just an 8% no?
#balance
deft bough
lofty depot
I pretty much gap anyone I queue into
jaunty talon
yep ive not 0 tier this season and now, i made a new boomy
lofty depot
i thought it was just an 8% no?
Nop
jaunty talon
bad gear atm xD
lofty depot
They did 8% initially and added 8%
rancid estuary
Hello!!
lofty depot
Might do some fucking around on soulbinder too
stuck quartz
i kinda just wanna full send EC on normal/hero reclear tonight and see how it goes
lofty depot
That sounds cringe
jaunty talon
also in a +7 mobs die quicker
Yep, i was thinnking same 🙂
just double checking, only wrath to go into lunar eclipse still, never wrath besides that ?
lofty depot
Yes
stuck quartz
Prob simbait but I just have so much haste
rancid estuary
Anyone know wich item craft first?
jaunty talon
Anyone know wich item craft first?
staff always i do xD
lofty depot
Prob simbait but I just have so much haste
We don't like haste
stuck quartz
EC does
lofty depot
Yes but that's cringe
rancid estuary
Staff with Darkmoon Sigil: Ascension
lofty depot
staff always i do xD
Is generally what most people should do
jaunty talon
Is generally what most people should do
Seee, i'm too smart xD
deft bough
We don't like haste
what stats for raid then?
stuck quartz
mastery/crit/verse for keeper
lofty depot
4k
hollow bobcat
EC is haste mastery?
stuck quartz
ya
lofty depot
LOCK IN
stuck quartz
lofty depot
Who needs many surge when 1 go boom
hollow bobcat
everything feels so bad to play if you dont have haste
barren carbon
Yes but that's cringe
But my soul hunters parse 
lofty depot
Yea, just slam some shit
grand radish
Should I bother dotting stuff that dies super fast and is a prio kill? Like for example the pulsar in the last area of gambit
lofty depot
AOE fight kek
lofty depot
Should I bother dotting stuff that dies super fast and is a prio kill? Like for ...
Did u read the prio list
grand radish
which one?
grand radish
Yeah I read the rotation guides
grand radish
I read aoe and St for both hero talents haha
grand radish
It just says to keep them up and refresh in pandemic
lofty depot
grand radish
I'm not seeing that, what is that under?
lofty depot
@jolly delta maybe need to add like a red arrow pointing to the arrow
Like "hey I'm a drop down"
lofty depot
Alright man I just expected to see it under ST, my bad
It's on the st one too but in AOE it's more specific to kill time
jolly delta
<@124935035412414475> maybe need to add like a red arrow pointing to the arrow
I'll make it bouncy and animating and vibrating
severe hollow
I'll make it bouncy and animating and vibrating
and circle it
lofty depot
Ooo yeyayeyayeya
grand radish
it was very obvious they were drop downs, i didn't miss that
lofty depot
Well ur in AOE so why r we doing st prio
grand radish
just expected to see it in ST, for elunes ST it just says "Keep up Moonfire iconMoonfire and Sunfire iconSunfire, refresh within pandemic (30% of base duration shown in the tooltip)."
grand radish
Well ur in AOE so why r we doing st prio
like I said for stuff that demands full ST focus like those pulsars
grand radish
uh huh
lofty depot
Now higher key maybe it lives longer, but 1-2 surge meh
Starfire cleave maybe
Surely tank move mobs ontop
swift elbow
Barks skin and ignore xD healer problem xD
hallow badge
balance druid use starfall on H Soul Hunters over starsurge?
lofty depot
Is there 3 targets that u can cleave
hallow badge
yes there are 3 bosses
lofty depot
Hmm
hallow badge
ill try it
grand radish
bro why you lighting people up for asking questions lmao
lofty depot
ill try it
Yes u Starfall
grand radish
they may be obvious for you but thats what the discord is for
nimble grove
Fighting Fractillus while slowly Stroking my Shit to completion, one hand on my keyboard, doing my rotation. Looking at my weak aura, no thinking, other than the rhythmic flow of my global cooldowns syncing up to me rubbing it up and down
lofty depot
Fighting Fractillus while slowly Stroking my Shit to completion, one hand on my ...
That was a good tweet
digital berry
bro why you lighting people up for asking questions lmao
Well it takes 10 seconds to check wclogs and see what people are doing tbh
lofty depot
grand radish
Well it takes 10 seconds to check wclogs and see what people are doing tbh
Not everyone knows how to read logs, or want a nuanced answer, or just wanna talk to people
lofty depot
I mean, I'm more of the logic route. Is there 3 bosses. I'm probably aoeing
Council fight, probably aoeing
Hmm soulbinder adds die in 2 seconds. I'm probably ignoring them
lofty depot
Not everyone knows how to read logs, or want a nuanced answer, or just wanna tal...
U don't need to read logs, u can just read the talent builds
grand radish
I know that too but not everyone does
even if its a super obvious question it just feels bad to basically tell people to fuck off when they come ask stuff lol
lofty depot
I run down the logic train and if u can answer the questions urself u already know the answer
grand radish
alr man
digital berry
Nobody has ever been told to fuck off for asking a question
If you can’t take a little bit of banter for asking a silly question then the internet might be not for ya man
hallow badge
aoe is definitely better
lofty depot
Banter be my love language actual
lofty depot
aoe is definitely better
Yea for sure
hallow badge
like M+ spec
pseudo merlin
Alright man I just expected to see it under ST, my bad
You literally said this though? You can't have it both ways
digital berry
im pretty sure most people jsut run standard m+
pseudo merlin
You can't say you read both AoE and ST and then say it's not there because you expected it under ST, despite your question literally being about AoE
huh
lofty depot
Erhm, no dogpiling
pseudo merlin
I identify as a cat
lofty depot
I bet u would pussy
lofty depot
pseudo merlin
nice emote :kekw:
lofty depot
Send the addy
lofty depot
nice emote :kekw:
Anyone ever told u, u look like a taller leaner t1?
meager storm
pseudo merlin
Atleast I don't have the headphone dents
lofty depot
Use in ears?
lofty depot
That's crazy
pseudo merlin
I just have a call center headset around my neck to talk into
lofty depot
How am I supposed to be locked in and immersed
pseudo merlin
Idk I never got that
How do headphones make you more immersed than a proper audio setup with surround sound
lofty depot
Cuz I got that shit on sound 100 and I'm locked in
pseudo merlin
valid
I mean tbf my main thing is just I absolutely despise having something on my head
I don't even wear a helmet when I'm snowboarding
lofty depot
That's..... Not safe sir
pseudo merlin
The day I find a headset I can have on my head and not make me uncomfortable I'm willing to try
pseudo merlin
I've had so many recommendations, I tried some of them in actual shops, most not, but still never worked for me
Like I even hate glasses
lofty depot
I also wear a hat so no head dent
pseudo merlin
I paid like 500 buckaroonis for my glasses
For a special titanium frame that weighs like 4 grams
So I don't feel it on my face
digital berry
that's wild
I do hate headsets aswell as they make my ears hurt after a while
but I just had to bite the bullet for voice
@lofty depot potent on plex or nah?
pseudo merlin
but I just had to bite the bullet for voice
but you dont need one for voice
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> potent on plex or nah?
Idk would have to look at planner
And sim it
Assume 7m fight
Run a sim
digital berry
yeah cba i wont use it
lofty depot
Fuggn sim it so I know gogoog
digital berry
isnt reducing the cd of ca fuck with the trink ?
im already holding shit for trinket after the first 2 convokes
lofty depot
Well u might hold somewhere
Instead of 1 ca convoke at 6m
But I think....... It needs to be at uhhh but that needs 725 ish timer
So it would be 2 1 2 2
lofty depot
That CA is up at like 715
digital berry
by the time i have the third convoke im like 40 seconds off of second ca charge
oh wait it's 2 1 1 2 on plexus?
lofty depot
Depends on kill timer
digital berry
im just looking at lorrgs
if kill timer was shorter it'd have to be 2 1 2 id assume with a huge gap between the 1 and 2
lofty depot
But yea u hold the CA and then send at like 415
Best fighttimer is 440
Mega bis
Could be 320 as well
golden coyote
what are you guys replacing jastor's with? I already have the prior ring opposite jastor's
lofty depot
And u double CA opener and hold 3rd til like 250
lofty depot
what are you guys replacing jastor's with? I already have the prior ring opposit...
With what ever Sims best
quiet drift
wrist legs
burnt jetty
Wrist is giving up a socket slot, cant be worth? x(
lofty depot
Sim it
red nymph
lol balance is dead last in heroic 95th percentile
lofty depot
Isn't that the haste Crit staff
lofty depot
Nfg
burnt jetty
Lets not talking about the staff
shits myth track and the only decent piece in vault
lofty depot
Sockey > and craft staff
Gotta big brain that shit
But yea craft uhh wrists belt prob
Maybe wrist + off, but sheug
digital berry
arctic does it ever happen to you that you dont have the time for a full cast before the dryad expires ?
lofty depot
Legs good stat, need tier ha scrit
digital berry
cause i have definietly lost surges inside tree window
lofty depot
arctic does it ever happen to you that you dont have the time for a full cast be...
Uhhh, just press CA raleier
digital berry
from just being inside a cast when dryad expired
lofty depot
Need 2. Gcds
digital berry
its more about trees not ca
burnt jetty
Completely grief to craft jewelry?
lofty depot
Yea press CA ealrier
burnt jetty
fuck gang
lofty depot
Yes
digital berry
oh
lofty depot
We do 40mil so fast
digital berry
well what about the 1 ca rotations, do i ever just sunfire surge surge just to make sure im not losing 1 surge
lofty depot
What u mean lose
I usually cast wrath into it
But as long as u cast it before the window ends it's fine
digital berry
like sometimes im inside a wrath cast as it expires
red nymph
ew balance druid?
burnt jetty
we're in balance chat no?
lofty depot
Unfortunately
digital berry
bro i BLASTED
digital berry
dapper wing
Myth plexus?
digital berry
yeah
dapper wing
Pog
lofty depot
Wait we killing our dryad two seconds early
I did not say that
digital berry
arctic can you log review me to check if i did the shit right
lofty depot
If u kinda mess up ur trees u have the ability to fix it by sending the ca at the 2s trees timing
lofty depot
arctic can you log review me to check if i did the shit right
Yea but in like 30 minutes
delicate perch
lofty depot
Well it doesn't show in the sim because there's not a regrowth line in the apl
tulip lark
Ah that makes sense, thank you 🙂
normal pilot
it's just not implemented at all
craggy sonnet
i thought about this trinket as well
regrowth into CA would have the dryad still benefit from increased cap
lofty depot
i thought about this trinket as well
Well it's 12s so need to do it on 2nd ca
U do have free globals tho
craggy sonnet
wdym?
lofty depot
The buff
lofty depot
So u press before 2nd ca
digital berry
It’s been brought up a couple of times already
craggy sonnet
oh yea that would work as well
but you do spend a gcd not doing dmg
might be worth it still
lofty depot
Would u do before convoke?
digital berry
but you do spend a gcd not doing dmg
you almost always spend one gcd on wrath
craggy sonnet
i would have done before 1st CA maybe
lofty depot
Use the gcd before tree?
digital berry
That’s… the same amount of dmg regrowth does
craggy sonnet
yes but wrath does dmg and wrath generates AP
digital berry
Wrath doing dmg would be a fever dream
digital berry
You can regrowth after convoke
Since we’re just wasting time at that point
Convoke surge regrowth
dapper wing
17k int
craggy sonnet
if you regrowth during CA, then surely you buff convoke with it as well
lofty depot
Yea but getting the int with convoke good
digital berry
Oh yeah I’m stupid as fuck
dapper wing
You would, but that's an off chance
digital berry
Then you just ca surge surge regrowth convoke
dapper wing
to hit your target you want out of 20 people regrowth could pick
digital berry
to hit your target you want out of 20 people regrowth could pick
You can 100% macro it or smth
Surely
lofty depot
Is it a set ally or
lofty depot
Jesus
craggy sonnet
or something
dapper wing
Random chacne to hit the 1 person you picked
dapper wing
since it's THE oathsworn
dapper wing
Yeah but you have to heal THEM out of the 20 people in the raid
lofty depot
Yeah but you have to heal THEM out of the 20 people in the raid
Mouse over and hurry up
dapper wing
True true
dapper wing
Yeah other trinkets offer better stats anyways
lofty depot
Better stats than mastery and int?
craggy sonnet
this is a passive trinket
digital berry
It’s about whether crit throughout the fight is better then int on our biggest dmg window
dapper wing
From ulduar, The active from Araz, Priory trinket or Ecodome trinket tho?
craggy sonnet
that nets you more than double the int of a normal stat stick
bro
active trinket is a lock
this is for your passive slot
dapper wing
Is there an internal gcd of how often it can proc
digital berry
But there’s no way
dapper wing
digital berry
That just sounds broken
Every 30 seconds regrowth for infinite int for 12 seconds ?
craggy sonnet
yessir
digital berry
I feel like they are going to lock it to healers only or smth
digital berry
Its not ???
craggy sonnet
it just might be good for specifically us
digital berry
Smth like a 40% uptime on a 17k int buff?
lofty depot
I feel like they are going to lock it to healers only or smth
They didn't lock the shadowmoon burial ground one to healers
craggy sonnet
this ~7k int on average
lofty depot
And that was by double on use bis
dapper wing
Wasn't the SMB one only crit gain?
craggy sonnet
not more than a normal stat stick
digital berry
Normal stat sticks usually don’t have their effects permanently tho
craggy sonnet
wdym permanently?
digital berry
It’s proc based no, smth like jug
dapper wing
What's average proc rate of antenna?
Obviously it's random but what's the average
I had antenna uptime of 30% in a key. So 5-10k crit for 30% of a dungeon
craggy sonnet
idk .. just look at soleash in comparison
dapper wing
versus a guarenteed 17k int every 30 seconds for 12 seconds
lofty depot
I had antenna uptime of 30% in a key. So 5-10k crit for 30% of a dungeon
Y u need more Crit just win the 50/50
lofty depot
Yessem
craggy sonnet
soleahs is what like 6990 int + 1719 secondary on you + 286 on someone else
this thing is 1910 mastery + 6944 int average
same budget
lofty depot
Yea but u can proc it on CDs which is more important
dapper wing
It's practically a second on use trinket
lofty depot
The avg doesnt matter if the surges gain far more
dapper wing
gaining 40k int every single convoke dryad window seems kinda nutty
That's a spymasters
lofty depot
If it was like EC where ur damage is flat sure
Ur when ur damage is hyper focused into 12-20 seconds of damage
dapper wing
I want to see this trinket in a sim if we had the api for it
lofty depot
Oh
lofty depot
Well they might make it so off specs can't proc it
craggy sonnet
why tho
lofty depot
Cuz they hate specifically us
dapper wing
Because it's not intended to be used by a dps spec
lofty depot
Well made to increase our DPS like that prob
craggy sonnet
"not intended" .. there are hybrid classes for a reason
lofty depot
So true
dapper wing
This shit is because of Fyrakks tainted rageheart
They do this shit because of people using trinkets from tanks or healers on dps
digital berry
bro if it turns out that this trinket is BiS and we shoot up to the top in ST we will NEVER hear the end of it
craggy sonnet
i think that might be a bit of an exaggeration
btw, this thing dropped for us today.. not sure if hc or normal
never gonna see again
craggy sonnet
now gotta convince someone to implement this
dapper wing
Yeah if I had that I would be sitting at 42k extra int on my dryad buffed surges
more if It was the mythic version of it + mythic araz trinket
normal pilot
balance so bad have to use healer trinekt to compete smh
dapper wing
true
craggy sonnet
yeeee
digital berry
im so fucking dumb btw, i was bothered because i killed both normal and heroic dimensius before i finished the quest chain for the crest, but like.. i can just join a random group and kill it again
it didnt even occur to me
digital berry
yeah
normal pilot
hmm
hahah trinkets are such a mess
the dev fucked up making this thing
on opener you regrowth, uneq, re-eq dfif trinket, and keep the int buff for 12s
normal pilot
nah just opener who care about the opening precast shit
when you can get free 20k int for first dryad
craggy sonnet
hmm
so you just moonfire sunfire already in CA
maybe maybe
but i guess this should just be reported
and fixed
dapper wing
Yeah... to cringe for me. Will laugh when I see it pop up in logs tho
craggy sonnet
i'd hate for everyone to do this
digital berry
regrowth into switch trinket into ca dot dot trees convoke
completely foregoing the prepull wrath wrath fire
craggy sonnet
and this is something a lot of specs could do
normal pilot
do healers even like this trinket
digital berry
ohh
normal pilot
pretty sure mages can proc this too with shield
altho they would have to drop group so the debuff lands on them
craggy sonnet
again, this pre combat thing is a report and hope for a fix angle
lofty depot
No
craggy sonnet
way more interested in actually having it equipped
dapper wing
Yeah, they fix it and give us another 8% buff
lofty depot
I will not be reporting that
tacit oriole
with soleahs trinket, are we still looking for haste for the buff?
lofty depot
Haste yucky
craggy sonnet
raid is no haste zone
tacit oriole
sorry. let me clear up my question. This is for m+
normal pilot
it's prolly still mastery maybe
but you don't really have a choice in m+ it's w/e your group can get you
tacit oriole
idk how to sim each trinket buff
lofty depot
craggy sonnet
raidbots now has the dropdown enabled again
lofty depot
Ah
craggy sonnet
and the above doesnt work
craggy sonnet
you need to use shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type_override
worthy oak
Guys, good night!
I still haven't managed to get the raid weapon, and I have 2 sparks. Is it worth using them to craft a 2-handed weapon?
Or is it better to craft a 1-handed weapon and an off-hand weapon?
lofty depot
2h if u don't have a good myth 1h
dapper wing
Or access to a good myth 1hander
digital berry
my raid is asking me to switch targets on loom
to break the wall
bro
first wall were DEEP in ca window i cannot spare 2 gcds for dotting
digital berry
i want like 3 pieces from loom i dont wanna get benched
lofty depot
U got free gcds surely
digital berry
they are broken like during convoke kinda
lofty depot
Hm
lofty depot
Tell them u'll get the next one
digital berry
they literally spawn as your convoke is ending so i have the free globals to double dot ca surge surge
really cant say no
and it doesnt matter who gets hit by those spells anyway
digital berry
it sucks to dot inside ca but whatever
lofty depot
How much health orb have
craggy sonnet
this only makes sense if you cant meet the check tho
lofty depot
Well clearly they aren't swapping
craggy sonnet
either way its terrible to have the spec that requires minimum 2 globals to even start doing dmg on a thing that needs to die in like 10
digital berry
those 2 gcds id probably be wrathing anyway
craggy sonnet
swap
digital berry
not losing that much dmg
lofty depot
those 2 gcds id probably be wrathing anyway
That's big dam
digital berry
humongous
ok no this last pull they spawned AS dryad was dying
yeah they spawn as the first dryad is dying
so it sucks
craggy sonnet
yea nice
and then you will have to sunfire boss again because add dies too fast to send surges into it
from 2nd ca
lofty depot
Lol
digital berry
the add on this last pull died AS the dryad was despawning
so i just entirely lost ca window on the second dryad
craggy sonnet
tell your raidlead to ask someone else
lofty depot
Because u evokers can kill it
digital berry
We have a grand total of 0
lofty depot
The compelling arguement is pushing boss our of p1 faster
digital berry
We have 2 arcane mages who also apparently are not happy
lofty depot
And ur surge doing ,40m
digital berry
About swapping
Well
We’ll see actively almost dying to them every pull
Especially once people start dying off
lofty depot
tell them to stop dying
paper frigate
Can someone explain why we reup CA instead of using the last w seconds of old CA? I trust its right im just confused. Im def misunderstanding something,
digital berry
Can someone explain why we reup CA instead of using the last w seconds of old CA...
the sims don't lie on it, it's a dps increase overall to do that instead of just using the two ca separately
paper frigate
boat window on the 2 buff surges
Thank you! Wasnt thinking about BOAT. that makes sense now
craggy sonnet
padding how
dapper wing
starfall hitting the tangles
padder
could of thrown a starsurge at boss
smh my head
craggy sonnet
i mean, only one is attackable, right?
craggy sonnet
just saying its not pad
digital berry
its silly
craggy sonnet
all these targets need to die
digital berry
i really wish i didnt have to switch
ionic oak
wow
lofty depot
thorn vault
what embellishment should i put on a the crafted 2 handed staff?
ionic oak
ascenscion prolly
digital berry
git gud
lofty depot
git gud
UR FIGHT WAS 5 SECONDS LONGER AND IF I GOT THE 2 BUFFED SURGES AT THE END U WERE DONT BUD
why soulbinder parse cringe
sour basin
Hey just so I understand for kotg 4p opener, the second CA am I clipping the last 2 sec of first incarn after dryad dies so there’s a new dryad and trees at same time for the first 2 empowered surges?
lofty depot
ur pressing it with the last 2 seconds of trees
sour basin
Sweet, and i guess those 2 surges during that window counts towards second dryad?
sour basin
Gotcha. Just wanted to make sure I understood it. Thank you
sinful dome
Hello there boomies 👋 - I have a question real quick. There is a boomkin in my raid who is cancelaura-ing ebon might, shifting sands, and prescience now because they insist that any evoker buff creates negative damage on logs due to incorrect hooks....
I am looking at the boomkin list for incorrect hooks here - https://gist.github.com/ljosberinn/a2f08a53cfe8632a18350eea44e9da3e#negative-reattribution - and I am not finding any specific boomy incorrect hooks under the druid section.
Does anyone know know what is attributed incorrectly due to loghooks right now? And why is it not on the aug list?
This is an attempt to learn, not any attempt to flame (sorry if it comes off that way at all!)
I tried to check your pins and I can't find anything >.<
digital berry
pretty sure he is full of shit
lofty depot
uhh, so its uhh not negative dps
his details just ends up being fake
there are spells that arent properly hooked to the aug
cursive mirage
yeah your moonkin friend just lost brain cells when he was forced to play our current tier set
gg
normal pilot
you should be flaming, if he actually is cancelauraing and not just memeing
digital berry
It’s also such a non problem
normal pilot
well it is a problem he's actively making your raid worse
digital berry
He’s trading what he thinks are his parses for what? Trolling everybody else ?
That’s ultimate rat behavior
sinful dome
I was giving him prescience and ebon might on his opener since he seems to be super bursty on pull
sour basin
Is he at least blasting?
sinful dome
then I move over to other targets (we dont have an ele shaman)
yeah hes a blaster fr
digital berry
well it is a problem he's actively making your raid worse
Yeah I meant even if the hooks were negative or some shit
It doesn’t matter
Wclogs doesn’t kill bosses dmg does
normal pilot
he's dumb as fuck but if you guys are completing content on a schedule that you find acceptable i guess it's fine
digital berry
Reroll dev
sinful dome
we're hoping to get forgeweaver down this week 
digital berry
Does it make sense to play Aug over dev this tier ?
sinful dome
I'll prolly be dev for forgeweaver though
on some fights yes
like soul hunters, king salhadaar
won't be an every fight (I'll probably be swapping back and forth)
lofty depot
He’s trading what he thinks are his parses for what? Trolling everybody else ?
well ebon might actually make dam go up
i need that
give int on cd
make surge bigger
digital berry
Ok but is the dps gain outweighed by the dps lost of playing evoker ykwim
digital berry
I think the biggest surge I saw today was 38kk
digital berry
Cant see the highest dmg in wclogs?
lofty depot
digital berry
Oh
lofty depot
GET UR MONEY UP BUD
spice swallow
would you guys take the neck here instead of the trinkets
sim says neck
but i feel like neck i can eventually craft later on
rose geyser
Moth nuke
lofty depot
ayo
rose geyser
Gonna print that one out and hang it on the fridge to make mom proud.
exotic perch
would you guys take the neck here instead of the trinkets
Def trinket
Way harder to get a trinket then neck which you can craft
spice swallow
Ya that's what I was thinking my current neck is a crafted from last season so I think that's why the sun was so high for it
neon quest
When are we shutting down discord? 😭
primal oriole
i know this aint the place but is anyone else experiencing their logs glitching on tazavesh?
done multiple streets and hasn't updated at all for some reason and wondering if thats just a mean thing
lofty depot
When are we shutting down discord? 😭
just stay in your niche
dry compass
Mm b tier btw
torpid skiff
every 1st week mythic progression guild is min-maxing their druid buff. Only 0 iq gamers play owl 1st week in raid, so it naturally brings the stats even more down 
but thats between us, I'm down to sandbag any time
wild dune
just stay in your niche
eternal lily
What is our CD Timing in most cases
Pull with Double CA+Convoke ->
CA + convoke
CA + convoke
Double CA + convoke
..
?
jaunty blaze
-1 ca+convoke
round field
What is our CD Timing in most cases
Pull with Double CA+Convoke ->
CA + convok...
Uh
Can i know ur secret to casting convoke so many times
livid jay
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vwToBz6eDFKCAxd2s4kJBc
anyone else still running jastor diamond and mugjug xD
devout solar
yep, they're cracked
jaunty blaze
Its me
livid jay
<:LOLW:870977372642496522>
WHO
jaunty blaze
At least he has araz
livid jay
suneeight?
pallid bay
livid jay
you just need to craft on that guy and boom 4700 sim
or u coping for mythic raid weapon drop
livid jay
yea
upbeat flume
on forgemaster does convoke target the pillars when they take no damage?
sorry forgeweaver
pallid bay
EC soulbinder was not it
harsh jungle
Are we getting buffed after race?
livid jay
my mage alt that i put like 0 effort in is simming almost the same as my boomer https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rcnAMa4SctAUvm2vytbbqa
(im on lootcouncil and we had leftovers)
jaunty blaze
Nepotism 😔
open harbor
should i use Araz or Lily in M+? kinda dont like a 2min CD in EC... asking because i want to upgrade one of them to 710
jaunty blaze
610 hmmm
jaunty blaze
Anyways its a sim question but feelycraft answer i think is araz wins
livid jay
yee probably
but trinket sims for m+ are wonky af anyways
just play what feels better if u are blasting
jaunty blaze
I just think juicing a bigpull with 35k mainstat is better than the 9k mastery lily gives you
pallid bay
nice champion MH bro
meager storm
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jFRssLPEnEtEuAzKKkCcFA
so u are not gonna craft staff 
pallid bay
ill just play feral
meager storm
o7
round field
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/x8UNJ5xvvsszTQoZKv2T2s
(i have like 200k dps farmable from m+)
dapper wing
I'm still playing s2 rings. I haven't seen a single ring drop from m+ despairage
meager storm
lucid olive
fake ass sim
meager storm
dapper wing
Holy, your almost a dk
lofty depot
but here ugo
jaunty blaze
Imagine getting items
meager storm
recruitie is simming for 4.9 rn and i think im at 4.888
lofty depot
ight gonna go fudge a 440 sim
meager storm
alright
sand blaze
even though i have 2 points in Lycara's Teachings, I get only 3% mastery in moonkin form. anyone else experiencing this?
pallid bay
yeah dw about it
normal pilot
the character sheet doesn't show mastery, it shows astral invocation
you get 6% mastery which gives you 3% invocation
open harbor
do we get rid of haste or why are all my sims recommending crit/mastery/vers? feel like im lacking haste even now with 14,5k
sand blaze
oh ok thx
lofty depot
do we get rid of haste or why are all my sims recommending crit/mastery/vers? fe...
haste poopy
u only got 14.5k jsut wait til u go down another 70%
lock in bud
normal pilot
the set is idiotic and has 0 haste scaling so any haste you get gives you no benefit to the set
open harbor
lock in bud
is this a joke? lol thats insane
jaunty blaze
Luv me 2 second wraths
lofty depot
no
lofty depot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dv9SaeMxDhRXzTTRxfQQNv
does this look like a joke to u?
IM BLASTING
open harbor
well fuck that haste then
pallid bay
surge does not go brr..
lofty depot
skrrtttrtrtrttttttt
upbeat flume
any moonkin tips for last phase of forgeweaver fight? all I end up doing is spamming dots and starsurge when I get enough astral power.
lofty depot
cat form wildcharge
lofty depot
recruitie is simming for 4.9 rn and i think im at 4.888
have 30 guilded but no where to reasonably put
meager storm
i havent even used mine
meager storm
u just didnt farm dungeons enough times
lofty depot
says the one with jastors still equipped
lofty depot
rekt noob
meager storm
i have 2 704s rings
upbeat flume
I suck at feral, but I get it.
lofty depot
gear fed
lofty depot
massive
lofty depot
i get beat by 30k cuz this fucking rat does 12 m+ and gets rewarded
723 araz sims better for me (with 710 already) than people without araz
thats badass
bronze torrent
When we press CA "too early" before Dryad runs out, do we lose the Starsurge amp?
livid jay
i get beat by 30k cuz this fucking rat does 12 m+ and gets rewarded
always the same shit
quiet drift
No
livid jay
sucks to give em stuff but nothing u can do
lofty depot
When we press CA "too early" before Dryad runs out, do we lose the Starsurge amp...
keep buff, dryad go away
dryad aint casting anything anyway
bronze torrent
Yeh I mean, Starsurge gets amped when the Dryad "expires", but as the next CA "re-summons" one....we still get the buff from the first Dryad, right?
open harbor
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dvzzHJPoJPLoGFJr3eEvRc
good start, i guess
lofty depot
better yet, the dryad favor gets used and your then current dryad gains said damage
whe nthe dryad despawns u get the buff
when u cast ca u get new dryad
lock in we did it
recraft bracers woo
bronze torrent
So it would actually be optimal in the opener / 4min 2x CA Convoke to press second CA just before it runs out and then pop the 2 Surges?
lofty depot
i mean... it doesnt matter
open harbor
so, stonebound artistry is a thing?
lofty depot
ur already capped
harsh jungle
How much haste do we want?
jaunty blaze
However much the computer tells you
jovial sigil
wich is not a lot
low nexus
is this really the numbers we gotta shoot for ? 0.o i thought we needed alot of mastery
jaunty blaze
quiet drift
meager storm
lofty depot
How much haste do we want?
sub 5k
lofty depot
is this really the numbers we gotta shoot for ? 0.o i thought we needed alot of ...
no those numbers are bis
that mastery numby aint even a lot
low nexus
yea the mastery is low i thought we needed alot of mastery
been getting told and hearing diff things all over
lofty depot
well we do
well ur looking at a funny ai website
so u being told funny things makes sense
low nexus
thats murlok. io
lofty depot
yea
low nexus
so wth do i use and listen to lol
round field
lofty depot
raidbots
low nexus
people r like dont use icyvein and otehrs dont use wowhead
lofty depot
u know, ur character
lofty depot
and not random stats from not your character
low nexus
i use that to and been told not to trust it lol
low nexus
lol ok
so i can go on raid bot and do top gear and i should deff use the rings trinks it tells me is best for max dps?
quiet drift
👍
jaunty blaze
bis 
lofty depot
instead of a funny "bis list" on icyveins or wowhead
yhes that is how u determine gearing and stat swaps
low nexus
so if it tells me the vers mastery neck over a crit haste neck out of all necks in my bag which is telling me atm the vers mastery is better use it?
potent cargo
based on your sim and current gear, sure
low nexus
crazy
potent cargo
more of one stat maeks others better
zealous zenith
is two on use trinkets bad?
lofty depot
so if it tells me the vers mastery neck over a crit haste neck out of all necks ...
yes haste is beans
lofty depot
maybe not surely
nocturne hearth
Guys i want best rotation for boomie and talents and gear
Can someone explain for me ?
potent cargo
jaunty blaze
potent cargo
livid jay
prepare to suffer long starfire cast times
i used to always clip my eclipse to carry a fast cast back to solar
kinda feels better to not do that atm xD
drifting nova
but when the starfire hits
lofty depot
Can someone explain for me ?
jaunty blaze
Ye ngl it feels better to use dreamstate for that now
drifting nova
B I G
livid jay
wdym its a no eclipse starfire xD
jaunty blaze
The whole spec feels off
zealous zenith
do we have a haste cap? like whats out ideal stats?
livid jay
do we have a haste cap? like whats out ideal stats?
there are no ideal stats and no caps
sim your character using raidbots.com
it will tell you what to equip
drifting nova
do we have a haste cap? like whats out ideal stats?
mastery
zealous zenith
works with enchants and things?
zealous zenith
niceeeu thank u!!
round field
6 million
quiet drift
9 gorillion
jaunty blaze
Equal to your bank account
keen rover
Hello guys, just a quick question as I am sometimes slightly confused by priority lists outside of openers.
I just got our new 4p and from what I understand we now only CA when treants are available unless the fight will end before they're available again, is that right? Also, we use treants on CD (regardless of whether CA is available or not) and only hold them up to 25s if convoke is coming back up? Does that sound about right? Would you not hold treants for like 15s if CA is coming back up?
livid jay
dont overthink it - play the game and look at lorrgs to figure it out
im saying dont overthink it cause if you play normally situations like what you painted out in the end happen very rarely and most of the time u got a convoke or trinket or double CA or something soon that will change your head prio again anyways
round field
xd
royal zenith
🙂
livid jay
is it bad that im more excited for the split where i am on mage alt than the split where i am on boomie main
infinite blasting on cd vs cringe holding and hoping boss dies after second double CA and hoping my 10 surges crit
ancient violet
Hi everyone! I'm curious why the talent Fluid Form is in all the builds? I find it hard to see the value in it. Perhaps the only reason I can think of is the cancelform / cast when rooted, but even that is minimal benefit.
What am I missing? Why is this talent always recommended?
livid jay
its nice if u go bear for tankyness
and all other talents are not better
welcome to druid
ancient violet
Well I much prefer the 90 sec well honed instinct for example
Or even the 60 sec cd reduction on roar
loud kettle
livid jay
its situational
drifting nova
is the key abandon vote in yet or
fresh anvil
Does EC still like haste?
prime stirrup
Should I pick Nathrian Reliquary from the vault? It's an off-hand though.
dire osprey
is the key abandon vote in yet or
got a pop up yesterday when i went outside the dung that ill be flagged but the "abandon" vote or w/e didnt work lol
we were also in a 5man premade
and could not reset the key
or well maybe we could have but that timer said we we would be flagged so we didnt risk it 
forgot to drop key level down and now we had to do it on a 13 if we didnt want to be punished
shit system
harsh jungle
got a pop up yesterday when i went outside the dung that ill be flagged but the ...
U can walk out and reset the dungeon and the window disappears
dire osprey
U can walk out and reset the dungeon and the window disappears
aight good to know
but what happens in pugs
how long do u need to wait
before u can cancel
harsh jungle
No idea
fast valve
how competetive is Keeper of the Grove to Elune's Chosen in raid atm? All guides uses Keeper of the Grove for raid single target. If I compare both hero talent builds with a sim, Elune's Chosen is similar or slightly better.
royal zenith
it depends on what trinkets you're running/gear
in general KOTG pulls ahead by around 3% on ST
maybe less
but in reality it's 'easier' to move and cast if you play KOTG
versus EC where you plant and cast Starfires
fast valve
thx, that explains a lot 🙂
glass geode
is boomkin struggling in m+ in terms of dps wise?
not sure if it's me or others simply outplay boomkin?
I mean I play closely as others, but even with higher ilvl, i should be pulling ahead most of time
potent cargo
what key level u doing bud
glass geode
10's mostly