balance

[ruby flicker]

Oh perfect, easy thanks.

[lofty depot]

blud thinks my mood has changed

[maiden pasture]

you're always in a bad mood arctic

[lofty depot]

waht if thats my standard mood

[simple canyon]

take mythic 2h staff from vault or craft? i dont know the pros and cons.

[maiden pasture]

Mythic 2h is better

You can sim also

[simple canyon]

yea 2h from vault sims a little lower but it would give me 2 emblishments slots elswhere so i think it comes out ahead

[uneven dagger]

So I ended up running this, and if I get exactly astral antenna and araz 710, both of those together are higher than any config that includes 723 parapodia. But it has to be exactly those two trinkets

So I am kind of leaning towards the tier now because 10 people in raid are on my token lol

[maiden pasture]

Are you simming it with 2 other crafted items with embelishments

[icy geyser]

So we are running Kotg for raid after 4p correct?

or is Elune still viable?

[maiden pasture]

You can play elunes on soulbinder and soul hunters, otherwise kotg

[simple canyon]

i didnt, going i'll try and make a sim to do that

[fallen sentinel]

kotg and elune equally for m+ or elune is way over it?

[uneven dagger]

I don't know what people way better than me are doing, but I like elune's more

in keys

[cinder flume]

elune's better in keys

[leaden birch]

@pallid bay I'm horrible at WAs, is it possible to swap the sides on how many casts of starfire/wrath it will take to enter eclipse?

I just wanna flip this, so starfire left, wrath right

[meager storm]

his pack should have both

[leaden birch]

ye i've been looking and I just don't know how to swap it

[meager storm]

check on eclipse + cast bar, then eclipse

and see if it shows both

so u put the top one on load never

[leaden birch]

ooooooooooooooooooo

omg bless your soul

[meager storm]

did it work

[graceful heart]

Well wowhead now says KoTG is the better raid spec... but the rotation still says to go into Lunar. I thought when you had a choice you would always want solar for single target. Is Wrath just not good anymore?

[meager storm]

u are maybe referring to the opener, on the opener u always enter lunar

[graceful heart]

gotcha

[meager storm]

cuz u will press CA anyways, so u are just doing that on the opener for some free dmg with wraths and their fly time

[graceful heart]

ah true

but for single target after the opener, solar is generally better unless there's adds?

[harsh herald]

lunar for stacked adds

if theres like 4 adds but they're all split, you'll still wanna solar

[graceful heart]

cool, preciate it!

[olive ice]

should i craft belt or wrist for second craft? i sim myselft and say D.I.S.C. wasn't better than a belt crafted

[craggy sonnet]

well, disc is better than whatever hero wrists you have on tho .. right?

like what gives you more dps

[grand niche]

when do we replace the belt gents?

[clever carbon]

With 4p I will use both CA charges on pull, but after that I wait for both charges to use again?

[grand niche]

and mams

[leaden birch]

I see the shield pin got removed

[craggy sonnet]

no, you always send at least one whenever your convoke(+trinket+trees) come up.
and then you either double send again at like 4:10 or 6:10 (depending on fight specifics ofc)

[leaden birch]

so I guess we are not bugged on shields?

[clever carbon]

got it. And convoke/trink/trees, always wait to line em up?

[craggy sonnet]

sure .. should be communicated in the compendium as well

like, you do send trees in between convokes

[weary robin]

for forgeweaver, should I be standing in the middle of the room dotting all the towers and starfalling when they're up?

[digital berry]

oh god no

dude

they gotta die

asap

cant believe wew ould ever greed THAT much

[patent solar]

With chosen of elunes 4 set, in M+ are we supposed to hold fury until we get the mosts stacks we can, or just pop it like normal and what happens happens lol

[craggy sonnet]

happens happens

[patent solar]

cool that's kinda what I was figuring. Feels real bad holding it

[craggy sonnet]

you just wanna try to not lose stacks going from one pack to another

[patent solar]

got it ty!

[craggy sonnet]

so potentially send FoN already while dotting

[dapper wing]

So little haste

It feels so bad lol

[fresh anvil]

Do we try to hold our fury of elune till 6 stacks or are we sending on cooldown

Oh nvm, saw the exact same question was answered above

sorry!

[misty glade]

wait, this thing seems insane no?

[meager storm]

its good

[lofty depot]

sounds liek a arcane mage problem

[craggy sonnet]

what track can you even get soul fetters at?

[lofty depot]

think its just that

used to be better cuz it wasnt sharing icd

[craggy sonnet]

thats a warband item

so prolly veteran, no?

[lofty depot]

UHHHH

shore

[craggy sonnet]

(thought these always drop one track down)

this shit's the exact same as living flame now

[unborn sage]

i have crafted off hand already, should i take it?

[meager storm]

no

[craggy sonnet]

grr, im so angry that trinket exists and was available on hero

[meager storm]

antena goodge

try simming it

[unborn sage]

is voidglass worth in hero over a myth weap?>

[uneven magnet]

anyone have a weakaura for the new 4-set?

[craggy sonnet]

at 710 with crafted oh its about equal to crafted 2h in pure ST

but you can sim that

[fast heath]

hey all, maybe this question has been asked a ton already, but why are top logs running different talents than those recommended in the dreamgrove guide?

[lucid olive]

Vibes

[dense steeple]

raid still new

vibes are off

play what you want

yolo

[lucid olive]

The differences in the talents people swap out are minimal so it doesn't matter much

[fast heath]

ah ok

thank you and appreciate the patience, new to the spec

[lucid olive]

Soul of the Forest, Cosmos, crashing star, umbral inspiration, Sunseeker Mushroom, Sundered Firmament, Orbit Breaker are all relatively optional you just pick whatever you feel like tbh

[fast heath]

yeah I see people running touch of the cosmos and umbral inspection instead of touch of the forest and crashing star

[lucid olive]

Based

[meager storm]

some sht sidegrades depending on ur gear

[fast heath]

this is just on archon.gg

i guess i should just sim it tbh

[jaunty cliff]

guys, where do i get this item? i swore that i could buy it in the vendor next to crafter in dornogal..

[fast heath]

huh yeah

this sims higher

not by much tho

[meager storm]

only during turbo boost season, so 11.2.5 this tier

iirc

[earnest gorge]

Hello guys, i am kinda sad

feel that i cannot do more damage with 4 tier pcs 🙁

As elune's chosen, do i choose Keeper?

idkd what to do

I tried +11 and i feel really disgusted w/my dps

[jaunty cliff]

make sense. i started playing in the end of last season so it was available. so the max ilvl we get on a craft item is 720 correct?

[meager storm]

yes

[meager storm]

could post a log and people here will give feedback

[jaunty cliff]

alright. ty!

[uneven magnet]

just did a 10 halls and feel the exact same

[weary urchin]

being dungeon slice doesn't work, how are y'all simming for that?

[mighty mica]

1t5m lazy sim, mdt for more confidence, read the compendium for more info
dslice was never usable for balance

[flat nest]

same

[dense steeple]

my boy got that shit copy pasted

[waxen meteor]

hey guys:) any ideas if i should pick lily mythic instead of myth chest/legs (can convert to tier) ?

[vast bone]

does anyone know how many times our EC 4set stacks?

[normal pilot]

up to 6

[vast bone]

thanks gastank

[uneven magnet]

idk how to do the new balance druid sims, but im at 19k haste and 20k mastery, do you guys think its too much haste?

[lofty depot]

depends if u want tier or not

[lofty depot]

the sim will likely tell u to get rid of some haste

[uneven magnet]

yeah thats what i was thinking too, i just cant get these necks or rings to drop for me

gonna just rock a mastery flask for now i guess

[low sigil]

anyone got a WA to track the dryad buff?

[lofty depot]

https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet

or use the oibalance pack cuz its better than what ur using clearly

[orchid terrace]

is keeper 4p any good? or am i just bad

in single target

[lofty depot]

uhhhh the class is bad

[teal sphinx]

[lofty depot]

but like the 4p can be worth 5-7% depending on ru gear

could be bad at the change of hte rotation ye

did u read the guide

[calm bane]

guys, is tehre a difference in proc rate for the cloak between different specs?

[lofty depot]

the cloak no

but ur avg damage can be different

[orchid terrace]

in single target i swear i cant hit a good surge from set

[unkempt skiff]

Anyone know a way to track the Dryad from the tier set?

[calm bane]

is there sims for it? guild is awarding loot xD

for some reason im under the impression that i read somewhere/smeone saying that the cloak was better for certain specs

but i might be going crazy

[digital berry]

sim how much dmg you get from boots

and tell them

[lofty depot]

uhhh well u just sim the inc

everyone gains like 2-3% from it at like hero ilvl

[lofty depot]

scroll up

[fringe harbor]

i need to play around gathering moonlight or just send foe

[digital berry]

just send in 99% of situations

[delicate perch]

what about that 1%

[digital berry]

you send earlier

[gleaming kiln]

When can we open the vault?

I want my triple wrist

[digital berry]

huh

oh eu

[gleaming kiln]

Ye

[mighty mica]

2hour30m?

[digital berry]

really? damn

[gleaming kiln]

The only good vault its the first vault

[vital hound]

amps innit

[gleaming kiln]

When you have the 4p bonus, does the AOE rotation change much? Is it worth saving Elune's Fury for when you have a lot of charges?

[digital berry]

no

its never worth to save fury of elune as the whole point of ec is to spam that shit

[dense steeple]

i havent even looked at the tier set for ec

[delicate perch]

[digital berry]

it literally doesnt change the way you play the slightest so why bother

[gleaming kiln]

Ty sir

[digital berry]

the only way the 4p impacts your gameplay is between pulls in m+ you might want to use foe before dotting if the buff is about toexpire

[wild dune]

https://tenor.com/view/elio-lizard-button-gif-10528652411096742370

hope u like pressing starfire

[scenic prawn]

quick question in a pull of 10+ mobs in m+ how important is it to get moonfire on every mob? or there a point where i stop MF and start my rotation

[dense steeple]

I DONT!

[wild dune]

[dense steeple]

GOT 4SET

NEVER SWAPPED TO EC BUILD

STUCK IN KOTG

702 ilvl now

huge reclear as trial

[digital berry]

bro im 697

GIVE ME TIERRR

[wild dune]

got 4p today and jumped 10 ilvls

just loot it bud

[digital berry]

bro i am going to int the new rotation so bad

[wary tendon]

what combat type to people sim for M+ elune chosen builds

do you just do patchwerk. isnt dungeon slice wonky

[wary tendon]

ty

[dense steeple]

i already am

[dense steeple]

same bigdog

[zealous zenith]

Should we be using LS in ST more than wrath now with our tier?

[delicate perch]

with what tier...

[zealous zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-7433931244412524776

[delicate perch]

sorry I meant which hero talent

bc keeper would not want that, and EC always did

[digital berry]

what the fuck is Ls

[dense steeple]

YOU KNOW

LS

[digital berry]

is potent enhancements the only way to do the 2 1 2 ca strat?

[dense steeple]

idk what that means

[mossy estuary]

vault is in 40 mins right? or was it 5 am, i forgot

[dense steeple]

vault was 12 hours ago

[mossy estuary]

meant for eu hehe

[mighty mica]

40m, yeah

[digital berry]

messed up every single 4p window in plex normal

[mossy estuary]

thank you, hope to get a tier piece else i might have to cry myself back to sleep

[clever carbon]

in elune's aoe, i also use double CA with 4p?

[dry compass]

Who?

[digital berry]

no

[nova ocean]

is our 4pc really that weak? i simmed going from 2pc 2pc to 4pc and got only like 5percent

[digital berry]

5% weak???????

what

[nova ocean]

compared to other specs yes

that get like 15

[digital berry]

ok but we got a 16% buff

[nova ocean]

ya so

we need another i think

[digital berry]

i mean sure the tier set sucks

[magic walrus]

How much of a difference does the weapon enchant make for raid vs m+? I don't understand how to read this sim (cause i dont think its actually telling me it makes a 5.5% dps increase/decrease) and I'm just tryna make sure I dont need 2 separate weapons for raid vs keys

[dense steeple]

Idk if youre not parsing 99s this week you probably need to relearn the spec

[digital berry]

5.5% is insane

ascension is slightly ahead on st and duskthread is slightly ahead in m+

both are good to have but not impactful

[magic walrus]

Yeah thats what i was thinking Im like??? theres no way its that huge, theyre both 1/6 hero pieces

[magic walrus]

oop i was thinking authority of the depths vs radiant power

I assume its the same consensus though?

[digital berry]

oh im demented

[magic walrus]

NO YOURE GOOD LOL

Honestly I could literally just craft my weapon rn and avoid the issue, I probably should

Im using fractured spacetime staff atm, 1/6 hero and I spent my crests on my trinket and ring upgrades

edit im just a dumbass jk i cant craft it yet

[rough marten]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7qcCvfVtXFHD5Y5WciZ3YR is Araz just that much better or is the apl cooked for araz vs lily

fully myth track lily vs araz

hero

[lofty depot]

araz is that much better

dont use gear compare

and sim latest

u should sim ur gems too

[rough marten]

yeah I need to swap all my gems just getting through clear

[lofty depot]

what the

hes hacking

[rough marten]

[magic walrus]

For Araz, do we hold cds for his burst phase? Or just send it all on cd anyways?

[cloud plover]

no tier

[digital berry]

well panst for myth track cata isnt bad bad

[stone ledge]

this + 4 set this week HUGE POG

[cloud plover]

it's not buuut it requires getting tier which as a split alt isn't insanely likely

[torpid skiff]

we sending both sparks on 2H today right?

if no exceptional weapon

[digital berry]

probably

[torpid skiff]

this fucking ring baiting me to take it and ignore myth track sets ><

[glass geode]

should i get mythic MH weapon (it's not voidglass kris) or heroic tier helm pc?

would heroic voidglass kris > mythic MH weapon?

[digital berry]

whatever those secoinbdaries are

[torpid skiff]

haste/mast

[digital berry]

unforch yes

[torpid skiff]

thats HoA ring, I think its BiS for us ?

[glass geode]

so heroic void > mythic MH weapon yeah?

[valid turret]

no myth tier piece😢

[digital berry]

sim it for urself

[glass geode]

raidbots seems disabled, not working

[digital berry]

hmm?

[ebon plover]

chat what are we crafting on weapon

2h

[digital berry]

wdym

secondaries?

embellishments?

[ebon plover]

yeah

[digital berry]

sim it urself

[ebon plover]

thanks

[dense girder]

Finally a decent vault. Have to pick between lily and parapodia.

[digital berry]

thats not a choice

pick between a diamond and a piece of shit

[sudden pawn]

@eager raft i cant find u

:(

[dense girder]

Parapodia not that bad for M+ tho

[ionic spade]

Lily better

[eager raft]

🫡

[dense girder]

Yeah plus It has avoidance on it

[sudden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-dog-cat-cat-tired-sad-cat-gif-26990805

[dense girder]

I’ll get lily

[mossy estuary]

which embelish should i use on staff? still just ascendance?

[digital berry]

Yes

[mossy estuary]

sweet, thank you

[smoky remnant]

so there is this

but also a haste mastery staff myth track thoughts?

i didnt craft embelishments yet and will have 2 sparks this week

[dense girder]

Craft weapon/get trinket

[smoky remnant]

i'd say that too

i'd feel miserable to not get this

[gleaming kiln]

I got a one-handed weapon, an off-hand weapon, and a trinket in the vault: Is it worth it to take the one-handed weapon and craft double versa in bracers and belt without having to use ascension? I only do m+

[digital berry]

It would be the most foolish of ideas for sure

[digital berry]

Embellishments are sucky sucky, crafting bracers and belt week 2 is sucky sucky, much more high ticket items

[gleaming kiln]

So what i take? Haha

[digital berry]

Idk what you got brother

This is the week to fix weapon situation, crafting a 2h or getting myth track weapon from vault and crafting oh

Kris is also a good option starting from hero track

[gleaming kiln]

The only good weapon and offhand but both from m+ vault not raid

[peak mantle]

nice 🙂

[digital berry]

The only good item is not myth track

Couldn’t finish the 8 10s sadge

[peak mantle]

kris and offhand craft good combo right?

[digital berry]

Oh I missed it

Yeah it’s barely worse then 2h craft

[peak mantle]

so i can craft bracers also 🙂

[digital berry]

Pls don’t

Or like, it’s suboptimal to craft bracers as they are not very good slot items

You can sim your second craft to see what’s better

[peak mantle]

i will ty

[compact rose]

yo guys...got mastery/haste 2h myth in vault...but u will def. replace it with 2h from loom mythic right? so its a pretty shitty vault if u replace it with the raid weapon the next 2 weeks?

[digital berry]

You also don’t have the gilded crests to do everything

[digital berry]

Not the 2h, best combo is probably crafted oh + myth Kris from fract

Also, haste is doo doo on kotg now

[jaunty blaze]

Gloves from first vault season is cooked gg...

[compact rose]

i also got a myth 1h which sims better together with offhand craft...would u go for 2h to save crests or just take 1h?

[light seal]

taking a delve ring from vault is fun. all the shit trinkets and necks in the game in there

[river galleon]

Fight between Anub, myth chest (will use cata) and hc Araz. With wrists crafted biggest upgrade is Anub but not sure about this, when i have currently normal Araz and Ara/Lily/Signet. 🤔

[jaunty blaze]

If you have normal araz why would you take hc over the other options

Its basically the same

[river galleon]

Not gonna lie, there will be long line for this one from boss...

[hollow raft]

So is there a reason we have to have 2 perfect GCD surges after dryad or am I missing something?

[river galleon]

Is not that because you delay Force of Nature after CA so when dryad fades you cast 2 empowered starsurges from 4p + 24% buff amplifier from FoN and you cast secon time CA or go into Eclipse for 20% crit chance from Balance of All Things?

[hollow raft]

Yeah I get that, however after the opener you're just boned

[sour basin]

Hey yall, for 4p kotg, do I generally want to send araz after trees with convoke to pad dryad’s favor, or closer to the 2 surges at the beginning of the second CA on open because of the decaying int value?

[hollow raft]

You'd get more benefit for the 30 second buff on the trinket if you rip it with your first CA

[sour basin]

Thanks

[livid jay]

Guys for the new keeper opener, after we've done everything and the second dryad runs out, do we want to try and get the two surges into the running CA window (which is just possible) or wouldnt it also be nice to try and get them into the next trees window which is up in a couple seconds? BOAT value overweighing here in favor of CA window?

[hollow raft]

Allegedly we send it in the Alignment window with perfect GCDs

[livid jay]

U know if someone tried to sim that? I mean I could see that being better cause of boat ye but generally the trees damage buff is larger than the CA buff (right?)

And I'm pretty sure I could get from CA to trees without wasting any ap or starlord without pressing surge

[dapper wing]

just send it right after dryad runs out

within the CA

you have JUST enough time to get those two gcds off

[livid jay]

Yea I know I been doing that too

[hollow raft]

The CA buff outweighs the trees buff

[frail junco]

the 2nd dryad is gonna be a bit rough. u can get the 2 surges from Dryad #2 in 2nd CA but i dont think it's worth holding those surges for a new pair of trees. 🤔

[livid jay]

Reason being?

[frail junco]

trees are just a flat 24% damage increase but CA is double eclipse which is a 15% nature & arcane buff. Astral damage is both of these (we double dip)
so i believe CA is just worth more than the trees % increase.

[hollow raft]

Yeah you're looking at 15% for each eclipse concurrently, so 30%

[river galleon]

Oh, right. I have question about Dryad's Favor. You guys have WA to track timer?

[hollow raft]

Yeh, Dryad ID # is 1236556

[livid jay]

Why did I think the trees buff was more than the CA buff

[vestal cave]

It's even more because of the way astral damage is calculated. Should be 32.25%

[frail junco]

even better!

[dapper wing]

JUST 15?

I have 25% mastery (27% with alchemical on mastery)

so when I'm in incarn i'm at 50% (75% if moonfire and sunfire is on target)

It outweights trees by almost double

The only time you would end up holding for trees would be if you had less than like 13% mastery

which your just stating wrong if you have that little amount

[upper surge]

sadge

[vestal cave]

Calculations made with baseline mastery values as example afaik

[hollow raft]

Not exactly. It doesn't flat stack like that

[dapper wing]

Yes but like, as an idea

CA is much better than trees for the second dryad buff

[hollow raft]

Base tooltip. Your mastery will increse these

[rich jewel]

But u are always in eclipse , so its 15 from normal then

[livid jay]

Mastery doesn't buff eclipses?

[round field]

No?

[frail junco]

you would be correct!

[livid jay]

I get that ca is better at baseline eclipse multiplier tho so it's whatever

[hollow raft]

Not eclipses but will buff the nature/arcane damage on top of eclipse buff with proper dots

[livid jay]

Yea but that also happens in trees without CA

So it's irrelevant when we compare trees and ca

[hollow raft]

But with only one eclipse buff, not both

[livid jay]

But ye ca better

Actually wait

No

One eclipse

15%

Then trees

24%

Man am I too tired?

[hollow raft]

I think we all are

[livid jay]

That's why I was thinking trees is better xD

Cause it is?

With one eclipse obviously

[hollow raft]

Also gotta take into account Astral damage is both nature and arcane and will double dip with Alignment buffing both nature and arcane (afaik)

[livid jay]

Yes

Which makes CE like 32% for surge

Which is less than however you add trees plus one eclipse

Brb 10 mins

[frail junco]

the 2nd eclipse (ca) would be a multiplicative thing no?
and dots are always on - so the mastery buff we get from that is applying to both nature and arcane
which means that for a starsurge we would gain more from ca than from trees
cause trees + a solar eclipse would be < solar + lunar eclipse 🤔
no? or am i just drunk on moonwell water ?

[livid jay]

The mastery from the dots doesn't matter in this comparison cause you have that in CA but also in solar eclipse + trees

That's a perma thing if u have dots up

And surge is always astral damage

[frail junco]

doesnt it multiply differently with 2 eclipses vs 1 eclipse ?

[livid jay]

It doesn't have anything to do with eclipses imo

[frail junco]

ca is 2 eclipses

doesnt that multiply differently ? or am i a moron

[livid jay]

Let me drive to work brb

[frail junco]

having each eclipse results in a little over 30% damage increase
'you're always in an eclipse so it's only half that'
right, and your dots are also ticking away faster and for more damage. so are we picking what to focus on ?
trees is a 24% + 15% nature from solar eclipse
but this is where my understanding of how the math works needs to be updated ->
__i dont know if the trees are a additive increase or a multiplicative increase __

[livid jay]

yes

[serene hound]

Hey Guys, would you also pick the weapon and craft 2 duskthread items?

[livid jay]

i dont care about dot damage i only care about the damage the two surges would get

[lofty depot]

crafted is better

[livid jay]

sim heroic voidglass kirs with crafted offhand + another crafted item

[indigo barn]

How many classes want antenna? I still got s2 trinkets but not sure if hero antenna is worth a vault slot.

[frigid rover]

how many classes? yes

[indigo barn]

Or specs

[frigid rover]

yes

kidding, its a lot though im not sure the specifics

highly contested trinket

[solid cradle]

you guys think its worth to take mythic off-hand instead of sacbrood to craft 1 hand weapon?

[livid jay]

So rough math cause i also dont know how these buffs add or multiply oi said they multiply

Solar eclipse + trees:
Multiplier = (1+0.15) x (1 + 0.24) x (1 + mastery)² =1,43 x (1 + mastery)²

CA:
Multiplier = (1+0.15+0.06)² x (1 + mastery)² =1,46 x (1 + mastery)²

if that is true then solar plus trees is better if you ingore the value you have from BOAT in CA

[merry turtle]

i would take tier myth over that

sacbrood is not bis and offhand is craft bis

[glass meteor]

I need a god gamer to think in my place. How much better are the raid trinkets?

im not a myth raider, so id be on heroic trinkets tops

[solid cradle]

i mean the off hand is haste mastery :d

[merry turtle]

well, im a bit confused with stat priority atm, for kotg raid ive seen that mastery>versa is interesting, i dont know for crafts...

[livid jay]

use raidbots to sim your character

you can do a topgear sim, add crafted items via search in the top and change the stats of that around so it finds you the best stats for you

[frail junco]

You found your answer then I guess.

[livid jay]

im back to where i started xD

[frail junco]

But the value of boat is getting left out which means ca must be better.

[livid jay]

it probably is ye

[serene hound]

Done https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/x31cH3VtMLYY3zkhRSnKFD , still wants the staff

[idle mantle]

Hey folks. If i got myth weapon in vault, i should take it instead of craft right?

[merry turtle]

For me only if its 1H

[frail junco]

I look forward to waking up to someone smarter than me explaining this to me 😂

[livid jay]

you simmed the voidglass spire not the voidglass kris

[serene hound]

i am cooked

[livid jay]

dont worry i am too

[serene hound]

Nah i simd the krisis

[livid jay]

yea real krisis

[cloud herald]

hey guys I have a question , wasnt the grove guardians 4p effect supposed to be changed to 15% splash dmg in AOE . i got my 4p today and it says 10 %

did it get stealth nerfed ?

[normal pilot]

no, tooltip is just wrong

pretty common in wow

[cloud herald]

ah I see so its 15 % yeah ?

[livid jay]

fyi we forgot about the fully stacked harmony in the CA vs no stacked harmony at the start of the solar eclipse later so yea CA better for those two surges

[autumn raven]

what to get? should I pick the haste/mastery offhand and craft a 720 dagger instead of the staff?

[dapper wing]

Either your bis ring at myth track or tier

But that's me

[dry glen]

Authority of rad power or depths?

[dapper wing]

Sim it

[errant flint]

My sim said Depths

[dapper wing]

There are the stat ones that rock

Hit the setting that shows all enchants Sim all 7

Like I'm using the crit one atm

[lofty depot]

stonebound

[dapper wing]

Crit or verse enchant goes hard depending on your stats

[tawdry oak]

so what is everyone crafting

staff the move?

[dapper wing]

Depends on if you have access to the kris

From raid

[tawdry oak]

didnt come in vault and then its just random luck competing against rest of raid on heroic rolls

[humble talon]

got 0 tier sets rn, 2 catalyst charges, got hero chest and head I could catalyze ARMORY link I also play resto in m+

[pallid bay]

everything is multiplicative

[urban prawn]

people who are saying heroic voidglass is simming better than crafted 2h, what are your sims smoking and where can i buy it

or is that just bait for ppl not reading sims

or is my guy just scuffed

[open harbor]

should i pick weapon or craft one instead? i have 2pc+2pc but will be getting 4pc today. i assume i should pick shoulders to catalyse (i got 2 charges)

[urban prawn]

idk bro sim options and then go hang ur head in defeat and craft ur weapon i guess

[open harbor]

i mean ring seems fine too but kinda feels bad to pick a ring first week

[jaunty blaze]

Weapon imo

[urban prawn]

is the source your left nut

[jaunty blaze]

?

Weapon strongest option here

And craft 2 items

[open harbor]

even compared to craft?

[jaunty blaze]

Sim it to compare obviously

Myth set shoulders arent that great either

[livid jay]

good to know, edited calculation, same outcome tho thanks!

[urban prawn]

did you sim their character by looking at their vault

[jaunty blaze]

Idk what you want from me

[livid jay]

out of interest @pallid bay would the last part thats supposed to factor in mastery be
x (1+2 x mastery)
or
x (1+mastery)²
?

[urban prawn]

guide suggests against non-mythic voidglass and opting for 2h craft

[jaunty blaze]

Im talking about the 2 hand weapon

Which is myth track

Take that one and craft 2 items with embellishment

But ofc sim question

[lyric thicket]

😭

[pallid bay]

2nd one

[urban prawn]

oh im fuckin cooked i thought this guy was going to take the heroic kris from vault and i thought you were actually enabling him not the weap in m+ row

[pallid bay]

so (1+0.x)*(1+0.x)

[jaunty blaze]

Nah shouldnt do that

[open harbor]

i knew he meant the M+ weap, but still dont know if crafted is better + myth shoulders

[jaunty blaze]

Crafted is always lower ilvl

[drifting nova]

wait am I dumb or do champ and hero max out at the same ilvl

[jaunty blaze]

Mainstat diff usually bigger

[urban prawn]

that m+ row staff is mast>haste no?

[jaunty blaze]

Ye high mastery

[open harbor]

y

[ionic oak]

704 with runed eth crests yeah

[livid jay]

yea, thanks!

[main blade]

is ascendance the way to go for the crafted weapon, or symbiosis could be used as well? is there a sim for the embelishments rating?

[urban prawn]

the sim for the embelishment happens when you sim ur character

[main blade]

so since you can change embelishments/stats in a crafted weapon, you just have to sim at any time you change the rest of your gear to figure the best outcome?

[scarlet tapir]

what did u get on vault

[scarlet tapir]

whats that in the first slot m+

mh?

[pallid bay]

feral wep

[scarlet tapir]

W

[pallid bay]

maybe i take polearm first boss though

[royal zenith]

loooool

[pallid bay]

we'll see

[royal zenith]

that is bad..

[lofty depot]

helm have sockey?

[pallid bay]

think one of them did

but i have socket from w1 vault

so either wep if i dont get first boss i think

or helm catalyst and socket

[maiden pasture]

chaft wtf is this

[maiden pasture]

damn we really opening vaults in feral spec

[pallid bay]

steaming pile of shit

[hexed sparrow]

Trinket is ok?

[maiden pasture]

got nerfed

[jaunty blaze]

[royal zenith]

you get what you deserve maya

law of attraction

[maiden pasture]

shoulders are nice and i have 684 shoulders rn

[royal zenith]

hence why I got antenna...

[hexed sparrow]

oh F xD

[maiden pasture]

opposites attract.........

[royal zenith]

that's the BS people tell themselves to cope

[ionic oak]

para got nerefed?

[lofty depot]

r u playing feral going forward

yea, i took sockey week 0, then got helm with sockey this week

kinda pog

think i craft 704 bracers with enchanted runed. add sockey to it

[pallid bay]

probably

[hexed sparrow]

Any thoughts with mine? (C = Champ Tier, H = Hero)

Raidbots suggests take Legs and use Catalyst to secure 4set. Makes sense.

[royal zenith]

a while back already

it's been pretty mid since

[royal zenith]

unfortunate

[maiden pasture]

either hero tier legs or socket because all items are farmable from keys

[hexed sparrow]

👍

[lofty depot]

need to kill plex tomorrow, then make a weapon craft decision :/

[hexed sparrow]

2h staff unless u get a nice voidglass kris right?

[livid jay]

why kill before decision?

[lofty depot]

mace

[tawdry oak]

is there a WA for tracking the 4set bonus

[lofty depot]

ayo lock in

[pallid bay]

bro is padding

[royal zenith]

@ wcl please disable add damage (smallies) in P2 dimensius

ty

[lofty depot]

i wasnt

nt tho

[blazing rune]

is there a weakaura for the Ornament of mother eagle 4 set?

[lofty depot]

that is a body tho

[lofty depot]

https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet

[surreal sorrel]

Damage past first voidwarden kill is excluded anyway

[lofty depot]

or use the oibalance weakaura in compendium

cuz its the best one

[queen ice]

yo guys , what u think , araz trinket champion or myth head to catalize?

[pallid bay]

me hitting the marked one but melee meat grinder kills another..

[surreal sorrel]

Unlucky

[lofty depot]

wait for raid, or take cata helm

[blazing rune]

Thanks alot, think i will just go with this one as i dont want as much clutter on my screen

[lofty depot]

oibalance pack has no clutter

speaking of that

sune, thoughts on adding the tracking of the buff for EC

like the actual damage buff after procing it with foe

[blazing rune]

Let me rephase, i like minimalistic ui

[lofty depot]

let me rephrase, use it

[cloud lion]

Use sune's WA its simple and good

[surreal sorrel]

Btw, where is your Green color?

[cloud lion]

Luxtox afenar add some color and just put 100 things u dont need to track

[blazing rune]

https://tenor.com/view/shiver-me-timbers-macksville-high-school-scared-dog-gif-23865134

[lofty depot]

is pretty

and minimal

[pallid bay]

i removed it so i dont have to answer dms about vaults

[lofty depot]

now instead i get them

[surreal sorrel]

haha

rip arctic

[lofty depot]

meh

[surreal sorrel]

uno reverse

[cloud lion]

He want to blend with crowd

[lofty depot]

i pray for his sanity

[cloud lion]

One of us! One of us! One of us!

[maiden pasture]

i need that weakaura again

[lofty depot]

https://wago.io/RSvpOalfNZ

[spice hedge]

is 2h staff a good craft?

[lofty depot]

speaking of which

@livid jay add clankz to the weakaura

[torpid skiff]

i guess if no myth track weapon in vault - craft 2h , right?

[lofty depot]

yes

[spice hedge]

ty ty ❤️

[torpid skiff]

what embelish we using tho

[lofty depot]

ascendance

[wide steppe]

what embelishment do we use for wrists?

[lofty depot]

writhing band

for your ascendance

🤯

[ionic oak]

what should ma 2nd craft be arctic

[lofty depot]

what was ur first 👀

[ionic oak]

wrist

[lofty depot]

lol

720 or

cuz 704 >

uise gilded on better item

[ionic oak]

720

[pallid bay]

@tired granite

[ionic oak]

damn so i Fudged it up already?

wow

[livid jay]

yea that wa needs an update bad

[ionic oak]

we'll try again 12.0

[livid jay]

still have paper in it

[lofty depot]

u craft 2h weapon or oh always

[ionic oak]

i got myth track staff from vault

[lofty depot]

and that choice is made by ur vault and or kills in raid

[lofty depot]

he stays

[tired granite]

Tragic people keep doing this

[pallid bay]

every season

[livid jay]

agree

[lofty depot]

only add

never remove

[livid jay]

true

also no pfp updates

cba

[lofty depot]

WHAT

[livid jay]

lake keeps changing her pic every 2 days

[lofty depot]

oooooo u mean that

[lucid olive]

Better update my pfp

[lofty depot]

no

old one better

[lucid olive]

Negatory

At least someone in Feral chat has recognized what my pfp is but y'all uncultured

Feral >

[livid jay]

😄

[vagrant tinsel]

Balance Dungeon Slice not supported, wtf?

[livid jay]

oi said i dont need to convert to tga so its not that much of hassle to update i guess

[lofty depot]

hasnt been supported ever

[spiral star]

helmet offpiece when i have myth track whispering mask with socket?

so i would wear gloves, legs, chest, shoulders tier piece

[livid jay]

oh but if other formats get mixed in the code doesnt work anymore

[lofty depot]

shoulders off piece

[vagrant tinsel]

Last season I simmed dungeon slice

now I cant anymore

[spiral star]

ok then i use it for cata

[idle mantle]

Hey! I got a 1h myth weapon from vault and now is the question. Should I upgrade it to the max and craft myth offhand + wrists (from runed crest story mode) ? Or i should just craft that runed offhand only?

[lucid olive]

It wasn't supported then either

[lofty depot]

last season gas didnt disable it

that doesnt mean it was supported then

[lofty depot]

yea cata helm good and get sockey

thats actually what i did today

[lucid olive]

It has never been supported, but people don't bother reading the big yellow alert saying it's not supported, so Raidbots disabled the option entirely

[lofty depot]

u sim the crest differences and mass upgrade in top gear

[vagrant tinsel]

haha nice, how do you guys sim then? Probably I find it in the FAQ?

[lucid olive]

Sim patchwerk 1 target 5 minutes or do an MDT sim, can find it in Compendium

Yes

[lofty depot]

u would find it in the faq

[vagrant tinsel]

ok

[lofty depot]

but thats not on discord

dreamgrove.gg

[vagrant tinsel]

thyy

[grizzled dagger]

does anyone know if crafted ring thing still works?

[tired granite]

I had this arguement with someone in gh

As well

[pale swan]

ew

[lofty depot]

idk whats ew about that

[carmine vigil]

take tokens and use them on gold

[pale swan]

all sim shit ? 😄

or im braindead

[lofty depot]

could be idk

[pale swan]

😄

[lofty depot]

u linked a picture of u saying ew and not the sim

[carmine vigil]

just send you simc to @lofty depot he will run 5950984 sims for you

[pale swan]

[lofty depot]

can draw a conclusion closer to braindead than sim shit idk

[ionic oak]

sending ma sim

[pallid bay]

[pale swan]

sims and nudes as well

[lofty depot]

nudes only from dwilkz

that little thurst trapper hasnt posted shit in weeks

[carmine vigil]

😊

[pale swan]

real

[lofty depot]

hmmm, midnight housing show case

or bedge

[ionic oak]

flame me for not knowing what to craft 2nd

and then housing thing

and then bed

[lofty depot]

well ur option now is to craft oh or mh

[livid jay]

these pants are omega no?

[lucid olive]

Go sleep buddy

[ionic oak]

i thought mtyh weapon was the play. smh my head

[lucid olive]

Give us a few hours break

[lofty depot]

well it can be hte play

[pale swan]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3GBtw1t18hK5KmwHCwEKie why is parabodia so bad,only 20k maxed out over jug ....

[lofty depot]

but if u dont have one, idk why ur not crafting 2h

[carmine vigil]

@lucid olive i just watched your 11.2 Balance guide on Youtube, fantastic video very high quality well done 🐐

[livid jay]

cause it got nerfed

[ionic oak]

i do have a myth weapon. staff 723

[lucid olive]

Yeah insane quality video, full on freestyled

[carmine vigil]

👍

[ionic oak]

oh shit is nudes guy

[lofty depot]

is better ig

[grizzled dagger]

does anyone know if crafter ring "hack" still works so we can free upgrade the other?

or is that gone gone?

[carmine vigil]

who is "nudes guy"

[lofty depot]

i think they deleted that last tier

u dork

post em

[carmine vigil]

only in the dms 😉

[livid jay]

isnt nudes guy that one guy whos twitter i accidently clicked once

[lofty depot]

waiting

[livid jay]

mattieu or so

[carmine vigil]

probably yes

[lofty depot]

that is main nudes guy yes

this is canadian nudes guy

[livid jay]

xD

[carmine vigil]

^_^

on that note gn

[livid jay]

nn

[lofty depot]

hm

[peak mantle]

how do i sim my fiber?

[lofty depot]

the same way u sim gems

im so close to greatness

oh shit

tauren race swap, gotta be 5m surely

[peak mantle]

nice

[lofty depot]

rip it wasnt

[pale swan]

damn

[livid jay]

what the helly

these americans smh

[pale swan]

he is getting prio loot

[jaunty blaze]

Still just above tank dps

[lofty depot]

uhhhhh, i only got araz

then a hero token

[loud kettle]

Only araz

Araz is the p2w trinket

[pale swan]

giving Araz to boomie,i don't want to know what you did for it

[eager raft]

We had 5 drop today between normal and heroic

[loud kettle]

We havent seen a forge yet in 4 kills

[lofty depot]

it was 150k increase

what u gonna do

[loud kettle]

I mean boomy/feral gain the most from it

Anyone else its ??

[lofty depot]

gamed

[eager raft]

Apparently it’s good for arcane situationally

[loud kettle]

Unfortunately acquired a heroic netherprism

[pale swan]

nice

[tight dagger]

Link pls

[lofty depot]

link what

[loud kettle]

I fear not acquiring forge if it drops now

[tight dagger]

your sim link

wanna see you gear with 4.9m sim dps

[lofty depot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/36FCUohtfnfced6s9eJocD

its if i upgrade the weapon :/

[tight dagger]

708 🫨

[lofty depot]

i mean... u can send all ur runed today

if u have 3/6

[tight dagger]

true

[lofty depot]

which i didnt do til end of raid

forgot

:/

[pale swan]

i guess im getting the off hand and crafting main hand ...

[lofty depot]

id prefer legs

bujt shrug

[vagrant tinsel]

how do you exit the pack in m+ and going into new? entering eclipse again if possible to have all spells empowered and have around 50ish astral power?

[pale swan]

for catalyst ye ?

[lofty depot]

ye

[lofty depot]

dont really need to be in eclipse

[peak mantle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/73WTTmUqUCM41gYv7nSCLN

long way to go

[lofty depot]

why rnt u wearing bracer with writhing

[vagrant tinsel]

why? and pooling astral power is also important, right?

[tight dagger]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cdapisuxS93PhbQhny7vcF

7 ilvl = 300k dps ?

[vagrant tinsel]

Any good youtubers who have dungeon run throughs with commentary?

[lofty depot]

because ur dotting at the start of next pack

[vagrant tinsel]

dots are not emppwered by the eclipse then?

[real flax]

only hands left to have 4pc.. and they didn't fucking drop

[lofty depot]

i mean ur talking about marginal dps gain

[frigid niche]

is it worth to craft staff 720 ? what is best stat

[lucid olive]

they are, but all your damage is dynamic

nothing snapshots

[ionic oak]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ikxq5FVsc1aBKvBMogCEMm

[vagrant tinsel]

ok thx

[lofty depot]

most people should craft staff this week

just a general assumption for the average person

best stats are the one sim says to use

[ionic oak]

i knew i should have just crafted 2h

[lofty depot]

haste crit staff

getting left in vault

[ionic oak]

https://tenor.com/view/triste-isolado-pensando-sad-isolated-gif-11165084073573897086

[peak mantle]

pants simmed better then bracers

[ionic oak]

so for my next trick. i should just craft a ring or something. got it. ok

[lofty depot]

Belt or ring is likely 3rd

[ionic oak]

whats 2nd

oh?

i will do it right now if you say to do it. i believe in you

[lofty depot]

U only craft oh if u have a mythic main hand, or hero kris

[ionic oak]

was thiking belt. to be honest

[compact rose]

I got mythic weap from vault. So my crafts would be wrist with the hc thingy from quest and a 620 belt? For the vers embellishments

[ionic oak]

this guy is on the same boat i am

lol

[celest rampart]

myth track 10k dps loss over last seasons belt, sadge

[vale chasm]

rip

[ionic oak]

damn

[vale chasm]

better luck next week 😉

[frigid niche]

what is best setting to sim aoe or m+ in raidbot

[vale chasm]

equip the gear and do a key ;D

I think both the options told me that balance wasn't a supported spec for that sim option

🤷

[lavish hatch]

top embelishments for raid?

offhand and wrist?

with ascendance and nerubar thing

[fluid elm]

quick question - the dreamgrove suggests that if you can get heroic voidglass kris then craft an off-hand and wrist but from my sims crafting a 2-h staff is much better. what am I missing?

[livid jay]

send that sim

but its same for me

at least it was couple days ago

[merry turtle]

That you will replace that 2h staff eventually i guess

[maiden pasture]

jesus christ

[pallid bay]

nice empowering crystal bro

[fluid elm]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jxJqdxTiZzsKMpgoTNbM1G

[livid jay]

yea thats roughly how mine looked too

btw u might not wanna craft haste mastery

[oblique ingot]

what enchant on wep are we running for M+?

[fluid elm]

is it Mast/crit now?

[vital hound]

could be anything really

bunch of good options

sim em

[wind mason]

raid single target yes

[fluid elm]

ah ok ty

[delicate perch]

it's a sim angle

@vital hound login

[vital hound]

weird looking kris

[delicate perch]

still more damage tho

[vital hound]

[delicate perch]

[jade harbor]

pon

[oblique ingot]

How are you guys simming for M+ when it's only patchwerk sim there is supported for boomkins?

[delicate perch]

1t 5m or get the mdt weakaura

[vital hound]

[solar arch]

😅😅 terrible

[oblique ingot]

Does MDT sim work? it does not work for me.

[drifting nova]

brother man

[jaunty blaze]

Terrible screenshot ye

[drifting nova]

it's got too many pixels

[jaunty blaze]

Also that 2hand is good

[drifting nova]

is taz hm even hard

its just m0 with a bit more no

[delicate perch]

it did last season, haven't used it this one

[jaunty blaze]

Its like a +10 scaling wise

With extra mechanics

[lucid olive]

I got wrists from deathless tazavesh

dogshit game

[solar arch]

The staff? Will have to sim a few things when I’m home, probs do HC raid first to

[rain jungle]

anyone help me pls and tell me whats the best way to sim for keys. thx 🙂

[ionic oak]

i got flamed for pickign that staff from vault. now im sad

[pallid bay]

[livid jay]

read FAQ in the compendium guide linked to channel

[drifting nova]

good upgrade no?

[spare fjord]

Hey guys, what the craft we are 100% suppos to do ?

[livid jay]

depends what you have

[spare fjord]

On simcraft I dont see an option where I can add the craft item

[lucid olive]

🙂

[drifting nova]

I DONT KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS

you prob want a wep or trink

but still

or tier

bring back 6 slot tiers

bracers included

[urban prawn]

how bad is hardmode taz after reset

[livid jay]

topgear sim, search bar in the top

[spare fjord]

thx

[pallid bay]

about as bad as before

you die to failing mechanics

[still delta]

Good morning everyone, is there anything/anyone in here that can help with logs etc? I feel like any boss fight that is ST or cleave I'm fucking up royally and I've tried wowanalyzer but can't see any obvious faults with what I'm doing wrong?

[urban prawn]

so my group's single pug can still walk into 6 balls in a row on 2nd boss because he thought he had the buff this week? f

[potent cargo]

link a log brother

[vital hound]

[pallid bay]

or unspeccing kick

https://www.twitch.tv/bigtilter/clip/AcceptableFuriousLegPicoMause-HkI3ZoKoP8wYgRyX

[still delta]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RyAfG62VwvThYJ7m?fight=13&type=damage-done

Thank you in advance for the help dude 🙂 very much appreciated

[wind frigate]

Hey druids! Anyone can advice me what rotation I should follow with Araz trinket and 2xtierS2 and 2xtierS3 ? Shall I do double CA at pull or play like s2

[pallid bay]

s2

wtf is this bro

who cooked

[lucid olive]

Looks like he's looking at his action bars between each key press

[drifting nova]

I beat a filthy tree player yday

[pallid bay]

you'll have to explain that before i look any further in that log

[lucid olive]

well don't have to look much further

[still delta]

is it cause im casting insta cast stuff while moving for mechanics etc?

[livid jay]

yea i looked at fractillus, your opener is wrong

[wind frigate]

thanks!

[still delta]

huh really?! i thought it was: CA>trees>dump astral power>convoke?

[pallid bay]

honestly if you cant find any obvious faults in that log you should start by watching gamz video in compendium

try rotation on dummy

read the compendium

practice some more

come back and ask questions

this is not being mean either

[wind frigate]

GAMZ video is great I can't w8 till I get 4 pcs

[drifting nova]

holy

[lucid olive]

maybe go watch the 11.1 video tbh if you don't have the new 4 set

[drifting nova]

hard being this good

[lucid olive]

i should have gone more in depth on the rotation thing only applying for new 4 set

[pallid bay]

like your opener without 4p is
wrath wrath starfire prepull
moonfire sunfire treants CA surge surge surge(if you have the AP) convoke

without pausing 1 second between CA and your next cast

[earnest sage]

is the 2set now stronger than s2 4set?

[still delta]

No worries, I'll rewatch the video a few more times and go from there - thanks for the help 🙂

[lucid olive]

don't CA without Convoke if your CA recharge is longer than the cooldown on Convoke

[still delta]

Noted, thanks

[lucid olive]

this ends up with you sending a Convoke without CA later

[ionic oak]

cant find the rotation video from gamz

i need it to fall asleep to

to study

[lucid olive]

what I made this season was just this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7ljpozVgsg&lc=UgxTLhnzIKm22cZoE714AaABAg

probably should've gone more in depth idk

[urban prawn]

why is there a starfall

[ionic oak]

Mvp. 🙌

[livid jay]

[still delta]

aint even gonna lie dude,i play a lot of m+ on it and muscle memory got the better of me 🙂

[tight dagger]

is there a way to SIm a different race ?

[lucid olive]

yes

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/static/sims/racesimcode.txt

this is linked at the bottom of Compendium

take your SimC addon output, paste it into advanced and then paste this below it

[harsh spade]

Guys what do you think would be the best embelisments for balance druid in m+

[jaunty blaze]

Versa

[ionic oak]

Damn. Glad i watched the vid. I i was gonna f up the opener by not using 2nd CA as dryad is dying

[ionic oak]

Probably dusk thread

[jaunty blaze]

If thats the vers one ye

[jaunty blaze]

Always mix them up

[harsh spade]

but i cant seem to decide what to use

[jaunty blaze]

Ascension is relatively beans in m+

And since there is nothing better

Use duskthread

[lucid olive]

Ascension lets you craft a weapon

Which is a considerably bigger upgrade than any other craft assuming you can't get another myth track weapon

[harsh spade]

i thought the same too

[lucid olive]

Embellishment effects in isolation are very weak and don't provide a massive increase

[dire osprey]

got a mace from vault but we prob killing the mace and staff boss this week on mythic

idk if i should just take it or nah

[lucid olive]

And later in the season you can pivot over to a myth track weapon with 2x duskthread/dawnthread crafts, and at that point you should have enough sparks and crests for the cost to not matter, assuming you kept playing through the expansion

[harsh spade]

https://tenor.com/view/iceage-possum-peaceout-gif-2272177960667492692

[tame dome]

anyone else find the desync of CA and convoke jarring?

[idle mantle]

Is it worth to replace old 2p with hero non piece items? Had no luck in vault/lfr and idk if normal hc items would be better than old 2p

[urban crescent]

am i griefing myself running bounteous bloom to have trees line up with 2nd convoke

i feel like i haave too much ap during convoke and am capping

[tulip snow]

low key I spend another charge if I'm a bit high on AP

or spend charges near cap to keep enough for the 2 in the window

[open harbor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5RSorkHgKqZRAd9FXMLK2z

do we like that sim?

[tulip snow]

on pull it seems it doesn't matter since you CA again after

[livid jay]

gz on weapon

but why craft pants

[open harbor]

for double dusk

[livid jay]

ye but craft wrists?

less stat budget

[dire osprey]

at what ilvl do we replace belt most likely?

[livid jay]

craft lower ilvl thatn myth track for long term

[tulip snow]

wrists for sure should be one of your crafts

[open harbor]

it should be in the sim

[livid jay]

yea might be big now

but you wanna have myth track maxed out pants at some point

pants give more main stat than wrists

[open harbor]

running it again with other stats on bracers

[livid jay]

thats why u loose less from having a lower ilvl crafted wrist

[jaunty blaze]

Kinda doubt runed crest crafted belt is better than delve belt

[tulip snow]

well ideally you get a belt somewhere else

delve belt is ilvl capped, it's gonna be gone eventually

even jastor's has its limits

sick staff though

[open harbor]

yeah sims better than 720 2h ascendence

[dire osprey]

am i griefing by taking mace + craft offhand instead of crafting staff

it sims about 40k higher but im losing crests ig

but then again i got enough to craft 2 items + max out the mace this week

[livid jay]

long term its good

[robust oracle]

if every item is atleast 4/8 champion and i have 697 ilvl weapon, i should defintely craft a weapon, right?

[open harbor]

is there a new charge for catalyst next week?

[jaunty blaze]

Next week yes

[tulip snow]

there is a big jump between these combos, maybe there's less items making a bigger impact

the non-tier M+ legs are kinda banger though

[obsidian jetty]

that red dot if you hover over it, basically means the result is unreliable

so there will be bigger jumps anytime you start getting into the weeds there on the lower end iterations

[tulip snow]

how do you see the margin of error for those, or is it more of a trust me bro?

[potent cargo]

in simulation details

(depending on type of sim u running

[tulip snow]

so to me that reads as that it's lower or higher than 2.5k dps

when we're looking at a 200k difference

[obsidian jetty]

Not sure the literal meaning of what it says. I just know that it's unreliable and to just run another sim with worse items if you want to see those combos

[tulip snow]

aight

if I made raidbots, I would make it but better