did i hit?
#balance
elder remnant
pseudo merlin
Surely Blizzard accidentally put the spanish or italian name into the EN version of the game
lofty depot
Maybe she turned Spanish or Italian in game on
leaden birch
did i hit?
unfortunate
elder remnant
unfortunate
at least the helm has a socket 🙁
leaden birch
not horrible then
civic girder
I have same problem, myth sac brood or 4pc (hero)
ionic oak
pseudo merlin
I'm sorry
how are we calling mythic sacbrood a problem
4p is the freeest it has ever been
gentle scroll
Haste 🙁
leaden birch
never said it was a problem, just said earlier it was worse than other myth trinkets
pseudo merlin
I said sorry not soohrry
leaden birch
😭
pseudo merlin
I dont understand
I queue for LFR, 20 minutes later I enter a 2/3 run
I leave and take a 30 minute fucking leaver penalty
leaden birch
get fucked
leaden birch
thanks blizz
gentle scroll
Just complete it then re queue and you will get put in a fresh one
pseudo merlin
literally 1 leaver = 1 stack of determinism
pseudo merlin
Just complete it then re queue and you will get put in a fresh one
you sure about that?
gentle scroll
yes
solid beacon
I'm sure it's been answered, but just wondering-
Do I hold my Lily of eternal waves, with 4pc, in raid for when I trees into convoke? Or can I send it into a macro with CA.
storm frigate
after taking a socket last week, i have a tough choice this week
I'm thinking rondel + crafting OH is the way, but BiS neck is tough
and i already have signet of the priory
drifting nova
how do people like you exist
gentle scroll
wtf just right click and mark it as read dude thats crazy
Are you in a server that @ pings everyone for every message?
dire magnet
antenna outsims mythic sac but been told bc of heavy movement it might not be worth taking?
slender stag
So, KOTG or elune? :/
misty glade
Antenna is considered your best trinket i thought.
dire magnet
Antenna is considered your best trinket i thought.
ye but their argument is uptime might not be good with heavy movement
i think it still antenna angle but was not sure so asking for opinions
carmine badge
gentle scroll
socket 
daring gull
mythic offhand when i already have a heroic staff from ulduar or a tier. trinket. went with trinket. empowering crystal of spider bs
strange edge
So, KOTG or elune? :/
For what
pseudo merlin
gaming
slender stag
For what
M+ I see is better elune, but for raiding my friend is using KOTG, Im using elune but we're same numbers
strange edge
Your friend is doing something wrong
KoTG better in raid (except the 3 DH fight for now)
viral cliff
is the embellishment to use ascension?
fast finch
Worth to craft 2H staff if no mythic/heroic weapons?
worn quarry
shoulders sim not too far behind lily but I wouldnt replace. Lily replaced by heroic forge easily.. thoughts on which to take?
tulip snow
😩
losing my mind on the training dummy with my trees
they broke the grate mesh on the ground so my @cursor macro fails to cast
viral cliff
im 
and cant get sims to work with crafted weapons but (I get sim) is there like a ball park for which missive to grab for crafted?
modest orchid
do we go 2p 2p?
daring gull
Worth to craft 2H staff if no mythic/heroic weapons?
bracers + offhand and pray for the dagger/trinket from raid
lost sierra
non tier helm to catalyst
or Staff of Fractured Spacetime
royal compass
I can't find anywhere what % of mastery we want and what % of haste we want roughly?
red nymph
I can't find anywhere what % of mastery we want and what % of haste we want roug...
whatever sims best
lofty depot
mythic offhand when i already have a heroic staff from ulduar or a tier. trinket...
Why does it matter that y have hero staff when ur crafting a weapon of some kind this week
leaden birch
yo arctic are you sending gilded onto your helmet?
fossil shadow
Is there a mop server for Druid?
limpid osprey
max crafted still bis till mythic track weps?
leaden birch
ye p sure
thin harness
what u guys crafting (for raid) 2H with ascendance or offhand with ascendance?
lost sierra
should we prioritise getting 4p ? sims telling me to get the Myth staff
edgy carbon
Hello
Last season it was better to have the raid weapon and craft 2 pieces of gear, this season is there still a strong weapon or is it better to craft one ?
limpid osprey
looks like compendium is updated
says two-hand staff with ascension is bis until voidglass heroic.
im not raiding for now so sounds like 2h with ascension is the eplay
lofty depot
yo arctic are you sending gilded onto your helmet?
Uhh won't know til.u run a sim
Likely won't make decisions til we kill hero fractilly
Or myth plex
lofty depot
should we prioritise getting 4p ? sims telling me to get the Myth staff
What staff
lost sierra
straff of fractured spoacetime
lofty depot
It's not that good when u get 4p
viral cliff
I cant change this to S3 tf am I doing
lofty depot
But idk u'll have to make a decision on if u want to craft a weapon or not
lofty depot
I cant change this to S3 <:Dentge:1286773588585873448> tf am I doing
Nice picture
limpid osprey
for keys is vers still better for embellishment?
lofty depot
Press the + button
lofty depot
for keys is vers still better for embellishment?
Who knows
Generally u go dawn thread at the end of season
urban crescent
just looking for some advice, would you guys say its worth getting 0.5% less dps now to save room for voidglass dagger + trinket later down the line or just send the staff
urban crescent
Generally u go dawn thread at the end of season
have embellishments been updated to scale well into the new season or are they still at season 2 values
the tooltip says the same but i never trust wow tooltips
gentle scroll
just looking for some advice, would you guys say its worth getting 0.5% less dps...
Are both of those with bracers crafted at max?
urban crescent
Are both of those with bracers crafted at max?
staff is with 681 bracers, rest are 720
since i wont have the spark for bracers if i make staff
errant flint
Is there a dryad tracking weakaura that would I need? 4 set gaming now
lucid olive
digital berry
just looking for some advice, would you guys say its worth getting 0.5% less dps...
By the time it’s relevant you will have sparks galore and crests out your ass, craft that 2h
lofty depot
By the time it’s relevant you will have sparks galore and crests out your ass, c...
What if I get hero Kris tonight
urban crescent
always gamble
digital berry
Crafted 2h is more dmg
urban crescent
0.5% more dps but gimping my chances at getting voidglass kris
lofty depot
Ur already gimped ur playing boomkin dawg
gentle scroll
"giimping"
urban crescent
gentle scroll
Ur already gimped ur playing boomkin dawg
this
long juniper
Can get 4pc, but I either take the myth track tier helm from vault and blow two catalyst charges on hero track pants and shoulders, or take hero track tier pants from vault, catalyze shoulders and stick with hero track tier helm I already have. Is there any reason to save catalyst charges at this time?
urban crescent
get 4pc asap imo
biggest dps gain u can get rn
oh i misunderstood
i would just blow catalyst now imo and just save myth track pieces you get for when you get cata charges
lofty depot
ok but what if i am the loot council
See, a lot of people crafting. So maybe they don't take hero Kris, surely
lofty depot
Can get 4pc, but I either take the myth track tier helm from vault and blow two ...
U don't want shoulders
urban crescent
See, a lot of people crafting. So maybe they don't take hero Kris, surely
ur so right
lofty depot
But u take helm and cata 2 charges and still not 4p?
urban crescent
oh is shoudlers our off tier
lofty depot
Yes
urban crescent
ty
limpid osprey
U don't want shoulders
oof some reason i thoguht we didnt want legs lol
lofty depot
Funny wowhead guide
round field
My condolences
lofty depot
Kekkers got less braincells than warrior has targets capped
lofty depot
True
round field
do need to get something for vault on druid
Go pug first 2 mythic
digital berry
@lofty depot you crafting 2h or holding?
lofty depot
I'm holding til we kill hero fractilly
drifting nova
I'm holding til we kill hero fractilly
so 3weeks time?
lofty depot
Huh
digital berry
is this thing good with crafted OH?
lofty depot
Gonna run another sim when I get home
Need to see if this fuggn spr crafted staff
If so I save for kris
dire osprey
heroic dagger sims good enough to hold off on crafting 2h?
fickle flicker
Sorry for the phone pic but, I need to confirm since I'm not at home.
Is this a realistic good option? My guild only does the first 3-4 of mythic, so I'm not realistically getting the bis dagger on myth track (maybe not even on heroic in a couple of weeks)
lofty depot
Wouldn't be taking hero item from vault unless u got fucked
dire osprey
gonna get 3 waists
dire osprey
Sorry for the phone pic but, I need to confirm since I'm not at home.
Is this a ...
crazy vault
limpid osprey
U don't want shoulders
what is the reason we dont like shoulders?
lofty depot
Sorry for the phone pic but, I need to confirm since I'm not at home.
Is this a ...
The staff isn't that good unless u play m+ a lot as well maybe
lofty depot
what is the reason we dont like shoulders?
Cuz haste is bad
Shoulders from loom'ithar better
digital berry
@lofty depot do i just take neck and craft 2h and call it a day?
its fucking hero track
fickle flicker
The staff isn't that good unless u play m+ a lot as well maybe
My other options are heroic leg tier and myth dagger vers/mastery
lofty depot
Big myth dagger
digital berry
it sims like shit
ruby flicker
i get to choose between 4 set or parapodia. def a wait until after raid vault
digital berry
this is a kms vault
i am lowkey tempted to go for myth dagger + crafted oh + recraft ascension
lofty depot
this is a kms vault
Big sockey
sonic surge
parapodia isnt THAT good right, heroic atennae beats it?
sonic surge
shld wait for raid loot first before i do vault then i guess
lofty depot
Games com gogogog
quiet drift
Ive surely seen that trailer atleast 10 times
pseudo merlin
Games com gogogog
theyre just yapping about random shit games right?
just tuned in
weary stream
for mythic plus key pushing what mastery should i be at before i stack haste or should i do something else?
lofty depot
theyre just yapping about random shit games right?
Blops
pseudo merlin
1t5m patchwerk or MDT sim
dire osprey
34k 
lofty depot
Sparkly
storm frigate
would you take poopy stat 1h weapon and craft OH, or take BiS trinket and craft 2H?
pseudo merlin
🎇
royal zenith
why does she have glitter on her face
same as you having the same pfp since 2001
loooooooool
sorry...
royal zenith
pseudo merlin
ret paladin will get buffed to be a reasonable spec at the start of a tier before I change pfps ever
drifting nova
ret paladin will get buffed to be a reasonable spec at the start of a tier befor...
I'm waiting for arms to shut it down
to follow your lead
tender elbow
anyone know which wa/addon this is, the CA/Treants overlapping enemy nameplate?
loud kettle
anyone know which wa/addon this is, the CA/Treants overlapping enemy nameplate?
Kaze
weakaura
cinder flume
is haste mastery still the recommended stat on 2h crafted?
lofty depot
No
loud kettle
if its not that, it could be liquid reminders maybe
lofty depot
U should sim all the mastery options
cinder flume
U should sim all the mastery options
k, thx
lofty depot
Can craft hastr mastery then change it later
cinder flume
ah, true
pseudo merlin
tank pulled everything in this picture??
leaden birch
yo guys pro tip
pseudo merlin
who the fuck pulls those snipers
tender elbow
if its not that, it could be liquid reminders maybe
tyty
pseudo merlin
yall ever seen that?
lofty depot
No lol
leaden birch
when you do the stupid slateback race quest get out of travel form
pseudo merlin
23 deaths + disband on first pull
storm frigate
can't even sim crafted stuff, raidbot is keeping it as s1
drifting nova
has the m+ build changed this week
storm frigate
even when i max all the currency
pseudo merlin
yeah it's feral now
lofty depot
can't even sim crafted stuff, raidbot is keeping it as s1
Search top gear
cinder flume
why are we scaling so much better with vers again ?
cinder flume
i see
normal pilot
we didn't get better, just got worse
cinder flume
yea i know, just in comparison I said
lofty depot
Again cuz we're more defensive
We do more damage and live better
It's win/win
We're so cool we like mastery an vers
cinder flume
xD
normal pilot
just play ec
leaden birch
my character likes crit
fast finch
Or reroll to ele shaman
pseudo merlin
HOLY GLITTER
cinder flume
I like EC, i wish they reworked how eclipse works (for the 99th time)
late gorge
we got catalyst charge this week?
meager storm
No
lofty depot
Next week
meager storm
Full spark this week
late gorge
ok ty
wide shore
Will there be an aura to see how much my druidae has left?
sturdy trench
so TLDR: on 4pc opener is... pre-cast Wrath, moonfire / sunfire, CA, surge x2, trees*, convoke.... and then it's CA #2 dumping 2 starsurges and then continuing normally til next batch of CDs?
if i got that right... do we change anything with the 2nd convoke timing being that we'll only have 1 CA at that point?
limpid osprey
Cuz haste is bad
haste is bad? is this sarcasm? haha i thought our best stats are haste/mast -> sim
gentle scroll
New 4 set likes to make big dam on surges
meager storm
so TLDR: on 4pc opener is... pre-cast Wrath, moonfire / sunfire, CA, surge x2, t...
Trees before convoke, at 2 mins u do the same u just don’t 2nd ca
gentle scroll
haste doesnt make convoke better
sturdy trench
Trees before convoke, at 2 mins u do the same u just don’t 2nd ca
rgr ty - i did forget to type trees in there lol
lofty depot
haste is bad? is this sarcasm? haha i thought our best stats are haste/mast -> s...
Not anymore
limpid osprey
ah just caught up, vers/mas is bis now cuz of 4set.
good to know
well thi sis nice i guess if we also like to play kitty
lofty depot
We don't like playing kitty
normal pilot
well kitty likes haste
limpid osprey
yeah who likes playing kitty i was jk hehe
normal pilot
so it doesn't help you
limpid osprey
oh dang, i havnt kittiy since df guess im all over the place
lofty depot
One of those items has int
limpid osprey
you guys think boom has more utility than feral in keys? i assume boom is still fine in aoe but maybe im wrong 😓
limpid osprey
It's week 2 dawg, u can play w.e. u want
true true, i guess just trying to maximize chances at getting into pugs tbh lol dont have time to raid for now.
digital berry
Lmao
solid beacon
Sosa, would you bind your lily of eternal waves into CA or click it after your trees and into your convoke
lofty depot
Is it 15s?
sudden flame
i was gonna make i joke but i was too far scrolled up
drifting nova
how much worse is ec in raid
round field
yes
digital berry
Surely it has to be better on first boss
calm spruce
what a off tier for balance?
lofty depot
Shoulders
gentle scroll
Make sure to log it so we can sandbag to a bigger buff
drifting nova
I'm in pisslow gear so it'l count regardless
like 90% sure someone else will log anyway normall do in pugs
upper anvil
for soul hunters are we running EC M+ build or are we just running cleave
digital berry
for soul hunters are we running EC M+ build or are we just running cleave
Check wclogs
lofty depot
for soul hunters are we running EC M+ build or are we just running cleave
Likely yes
drifting nova
Make sure to log it so we can sandbag to a bigger buff
died on the first salvo, they all ran away
gentle scroll
Thank you for your service
limpid osprey
which WF stream you guys watch?
pseudo merlin
another classic arctic no readerino
drifting nova
until they show wow
when I've done a full raid run
pseudo merlin
so in december?
drifting nova
january
lofty depot
I'm watching this wf reveal dawg
drifting nova
naturally
lofty depot
Fuggn idiot
livid jay
past tide
@lofty depot
how true is it that you proc nexus king command with a rg
someone is either trolling in resto chat or this spec is cooked
cinder meteor
Question about the incarn cooldown. How do you manage those 2 stacks? I'm a bit confused on how they restore the cooldown. If I am 0 charges it only restores 1 charge at the time, right?
civic junco
It was true on PTR. I experimented with it
lofty depot
how true is it that you proc nexus king command with a rg
Uhhhh, id have to look into it
No clue
Proc it when
past tide
before cds idk
pseudo merlin
Question about the incarn cooldown. How do you manage those 2 stacks? I'm a bit ...
read guide
compendium in pins
lofty depot
Hmm
civic junco
You use insta regrowth on the target prior to trees and the buff lines up. You prob delay it for KOTG so you get buff during big surges
past tide
you can proc it whenever you want
lofty depot
That seems, sick
past tide
the debuff is perma
lofty depot
Can we sim that ir
civic junco
I don’t think you can proc it permanently. Debuff appears on a 30s timer and buff is approx 10s if I remember correctly
past tide
so you can have 20 procs waiting for u if u want
civic junco
Oh for multi target, that’s interesting. I did not know or experiment with that
past tide
the debuff just goes on a random player in the raid and stays there until u proc it
karmic root
I take dagger here and craft OH right?
civic junco
I thought you could only have one. Let me check logs
lofty depot
Rather take neck tbf
past tide
the proc buff is one
lofty depot
Maybe thi
pale swan
forge normal angle
gentle scroll
I would sim
pale swan
forge will sim higher,but ye do it
brittle mulch
i took shoulders cuz my guild can easily clear normal but i wont get funneled tier
cuz thats a core raider thing
pale swan
you can get tier kinda easy,araz trinket not that easy
brittle mulch
true
there were so many tier drops in the raid and i didnt get a single piece from my guild
that being said id prolly get it this week but
fuck it im braindead i just want tier
civic junco
I thought you could only have one. Let me check logs
Turns out you can have multiple out at the same time: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/px9ftMcw8vnJrKDN?fight=10&type=auras&spells=debuffs&ability=1239997
lofty depot
Can u get multiple buffs at the same time?
limpid osprey
HERE WE GO BOYS
lofty depot
Holyyyyyy cinematic
drifting nova
lofty depot
Lock in
chrome torrent
lofty depot
Little elves......
drifting nova
holy
leaden birch
Shouldn't the 12th expansion be midnight?
midnight is patch 12.0 at least
drifting nova
pseudo merlin
LITTLE ELVES
lofty depot
midnight is patch 12.0 at least
O
civic junco
Can u get multiple buffs at the same time?
I’m on mobile so I can’t mess with the log enough to tell, but, if you can have multiple debuffs for healer ramp, then, I imagine they do overlap. But who knows maybe they overwrite.
midnight bough
New class or dh 3rd spec announced?
drifting nova
space elves 
lofty depot
So uh, get revealed
leaden birch
sunwell
upper surge
So how are they reworking balance?
upper surge
I missed the announcement please describe in detail how they are making us stronk
drifting nova
3rd dh spec is a healer
midnight bough
Anything good they reveal?
normal pilot
it's just a trailer
lofty depot
I missed the announcement please describe in detail how they are making us stron...
Little elves
gentle scroll
Ret paladins are back
pseudo merlin
good one
leaden birch
I'm simming 4.35 now
midnight bough
Is dh spec really a healer
lofty depot
Is that a lot
shy void
man i opened vault as feral because i'm tired of getting intellect offhands and mereldar's toll
and the vault freed me from the chicken coop
midnight bough
What is the range of ranged dh?
pseudo merlin
What is the range of ranged dh?
23 yards
fickle lagoon
https://www.wowhead.com/news/new-allied-race-for-midnight-announced-haranir-can-...
yes finally a decent looking druid race XD
lofty depot
Decent? Hm
obsidian tapir
yes finally a decent looking druid race XD
haha yes
body fur playin naked
cannot wait
meager storm
better than taurens
drifting nova
not even a healer I sleep
pseudo merlin
yo but when the fuck are they going to talk about wow
midnight bough
Why they didn't give ranged dh long range eye beam
crimson depot
is there an erstimate of 2pc to 4pc dps gain in keys
steep edge
is there an erstimate of 2pc to 4pc dps gain in keys
We are all DH now, can't help
crimson depot
thought it would come out before midnight rip
lofty depot
is there an erstimate of 2pc to 4pc dps gain in keys
No, because simming AOE is cringe
pseudo merlin
Why they didn't give ranged dh long range eye beam
They tried but they said it crashed peoples games
midnight bough
Have to use movement to do dps i ain't gonna do that
pseudo merlin
but in demon form you get the pvp ability where you fly 60 yards in the air and can cast from above
you'll be immune to all dmg
drifting nova
but in demon form you get the pvp ability where you fly 60 yards in the air and ...
piss from above?
still have no idea what a haranir is and it's already an allied race
never getting tuskars
midnight bough
but in demon form you get the pvp ability where you fly 60 yards in the air and ...
What is a bad circle spawns while you are coming down and then when you land it explodes and you die
earnest barn
mmmmm
lofty depot
Kinda beans vs legs
lofty depot
Damn
lucid olive
@wicked shuttle remove this pin
lofty depot
I just got tier set and could've abuse the nonknowers
Maybe bug reports do work
Hmmm
pseudo merlin
race traitors all of you
fiery veldt
if i get 4 set do i kotg for keys now?
lofty depot
No
fiery veldt
dang those 17 mill starsurges were tempting
lofty depot
Yea then u do no DPS outside of ur cds
fiery veldt
true true
sinful surge
I got myth hands in vault, and 2 cat charges, do I hold the charges until after normal raid? or just send 2pc and accept 4pc next week?
can't find numbers on how big 2pc -> 4pc is
lofty depot
Depends, mine was like 8%
Is it at all possible u get a curio?
U could send 1 cata, and then maybe ur having some fun
But shrug, depends
sinful surge
no curio :(
my guild is 5/8h and reclearing today
i think ill hold for reclear, then send them for prog
urban crescent
if i double ca at the start of a pull, what do i do with my 2nd convoke + trees? do i just send them natty or only use 1 ca for them and not chain
lofty depot
2m is CA surge surge trees convoke and us the buff at end of CA with trees buff
But yes it's a single ca
urban crescent
kk
indigo barn
any loot spec tech for vault this tier?
drifting nova
whys there someone in my pug that cant even use the portals on nexus king
why can you even get into the raid without the cloak
indigo barn
they probably removed the code for raid prereq and cant be bothered to rewrite it
lofty depot
Yea but there's a bunch of int shit in dungeons I don't want
pseudo merlin
but
it takes literally a minute to get cloak
you surround yourself with amazing people kekkers
drifting nova
ok but you're expecting these rats to know that
pseudo merlin
tell them
drifting nova
pseudo merlin
get rekt
drifting nova
pseudo merlin
dont be toxic
drifting nova
kazzakian scum smh
pale halo
How does someone get invited with that gear to raid? Id no cloak means others gear probably not better 😂
drifting nova
expecting demon hunters to be able to see
lofty depot
If u play mage u don't need cloak til salad bar
pale halo
I mean if its alt cloak is 1 button to get on way to raid if flying 😂
lofty depot
U also could skip the add platforms so u don't need cloak at all
drifting nova
How does someone get invited with that gear to raid? Id no cloak means others ge...
who knew the devs of bfa
were smarter than now
rapid stream
Is there any info already if u killed first Boss and soulbinder that you can get loot from loomithar in vault ?
pale halo
Dude doesnt like artifacts
drifting nova
shocking
drifting nova
brother physically couldnt use the portals
he only got to the boss
as got summoned by another lock
pale halo
Oh god of vaults give me tier piece which is not legs or head, week passed got only 1 piece of new tier
maiden pasture
absorb shield bug fixed
frozen solar
Hey guys if I wanted to ask for a bit of help on a log would it ok to post it here?
we killed soulbinder and i thought i did well but well the font color disagrees 😛
digital berry
yeah but cata ing a hero piece feels bad
drifting nova
yeah but cata ing a hero piece feels bad
listen here buddy
scarlet tapir
yeah but cata ing a hero piece feels bad
why?
digital berry
i did it, wasnt happy about it
digital berry
id cata hero for 4p, i had to cata for 2p
i got 1 in vault from week 0
and none from raid week 1
none in vault week 1
i am relyting on either getting 2 from raid this week or cataing again a hero piece
pale halo
yeah but cata ing a hero piece feels bad
Cata’d hero piece, got one charge left and got nothing else to cata as from 20+ keys got no shoulders chest or gloves hero track
digital berry
thats unforch ngl
i have piece to cata and i will do it if i need to
but hopefully i get 2 pieces from raid since everyone else got 4p week 1
pale halo
But got bis neck, legs with extra avoidance and feet so that makes it up atleast abit
And lilly too
digital berry
for the quickest reshi iwraps upgrade do you just run 3 delves?
pale halo
Just hope for shoulders chest or hands myth from vault but obviously considering my luck its gonna be one of the trinket and tier and if i pick tier i will never see that trinket again until turbo boost
pale halo
for the quickest reshi iwraps upgrade do you just run 3 delves?
Go lfr
Or if you dont want to play with apes then delves
digital berry
lfr harder then normal
pale halo
Reclear normal then 
digital berry
well yeah doing that tonight with the fam
pale halo
Again?
digital berry
?
merry ibex
nvm im trolling and cant read
rough crane
is vogabonds baton worth the craft? or should i craft the OH and get a 1h
pale halo
nvm im trolling and cant read
Please stop it 
pale halo
is vogabonds baton worth the craft? or should i craft the OH and get a 1h
If you dont plan on getting kris craft the staff
rough crane
If you dont plan on getting kris craft the staff
thank u
pale halo
If you can and will get that dagger from raid eventually u just go for offhand with ascendance
rough crane
If you can and will get that dagger from raid eventually u just go for offhand w...
i hv a 691 mace i could pair with the crafted OH, idk how long itll b until i get to heroic frac..and if it drops, current weapon is a veteran 8/8 staff
my mace is champion so it can go higher
pale halo
Well i personally got the staff from HoA on hero track so i just dumped spark on wrists as they were champ
And wont be replaced ever i guess
digital berry
Well i personally got the staff from HoA on hero track so i just dumped spark on...
this is one of the worst decision you could have made
a crafted 2h wouyld have given you a ton more dmg
pale halo
Well ill try to hit on dagger this week and can craft oh if needed straight
If not, staff inc next week
digital berry
you mean in 2 weeks
pale halo
Yea that
digital berry
should have crafted 2h today for most dps gain
but i guess if youre not tryan start prog this week it doesnt matter
pale halo
Aint raiding though just random pugging
main blade
so the point is, if you get MH on vault tomorrow, craft the OH, if not craft the staff?
digital berry
on vault or through drops
main blade
never said that 😛
digital berry
the only way its worth to get mh oh is if youre waring kris
any other hero track random 1h is trash, so youd craft 2h
weary stream
what are the diminishing returns on stats ?
digital berry
what are the diminishing returns on stats ?
we dont gear like that anymore
ust sim it
main blade
I mean, you will eventually, but in the meantime crafting MH instead of 2H saves you 1 spark I guess, but costs you 60gilded
weary stream
ok i just see other classes wowhead/icy veins talk about it but not boomkin
long nova
Do we still play elune or kotg in m+
pale halo
Do we still play elune or kotg in m+
Raid kotg keys ec
digital berry
ok i just see other classes wowhead/icy veins talk about it but not boomkin
it's objectively wrong
long nova
cause i saw ascendy playing Kotg in M+
pale halo
cause i saw ascendy playing Kotg in M+
Doable i guess depends on play style, im elune even on low keys
weary stream
ur telling me popular creators who makes guides is writing objectively wrong things and nonamed person in discord is right
pale halo
ur telling me popular creators who makes guides is writing objectively wrong thi...
Then use the guides instead of flaming no names lmao
weary stream
just rather a reponse that actually explains diminishing returns rather than just sim it
royal zenith
just rather a reponse that actually explains diminishing returns rather than jus...
there you go
royal zenith
too slow
craggy sonnet
indeed
weary stream
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/diminishing-returns-on-secondary-stats-in-world-of...
thank you
craggy sonnet
stupid wq
royal zenith
You won't be able to do much with diminishing returns though, other then knowing it exists
young ravine
im having a problem siming on my balance druid, on my belt slot and trinket i got a message that says:
any clue?
i tried as it saysd on selecting more items but nothing
cloud plover
im having a problem siming on my balance druid, on my belt slot and trinket i go...
are they embels vs non embels or similar
young ravine
no, is the belt slot so is the Durable Information Securing Container
weary urchin
How much vers do y'all have?
sims are pushing me to run around 9k vers, seems very high
young ravine
different belts or belt effect variations
different belts
drifting nova
imagine if reforging existed
young ravine
is the one from the GV vs the on equiped
weary urchin
new 4p loves vers and crit
9k vers sound right?
digital berry
9k vers sound right?
if the sim says so
weary urchin
all top parses still have 'normal' levels of verse
pseudo merlin
Your sims aren't pushing anything on you
Everyone will have a slightly differing stat distribution based on the gear they have
Sim after every gear change
Dont' sim and go "wow sims push vers" and then look for vers items and stop simming
royal zenith
stop with the premade answers man
what emnithy is saying is right, 4pc kotg pushes you towards more crit/vers
weary urchin
i'm saying, it's pushing 9k vers, that seems very high
royal zenith
as an example this is my druid rn
the thing that matters is deciding what new item you should equip
maiden pasture
as an example this is my druid rn
my sims did not let me get 1k leech damn
weary urchin
what you parsing though?
royal zenith
and that's what you sim
maiden pasture
what you parsing though?
😭
round field
what you parsing though?
His parses are bad because hes a shit player not because his gear is bad
pseudo merlin
big
round field
Love u dunce
misty glade
Yooo now maybe with vers being more important we may not fall over as easy! Huge.
pseudo merlin
Vers seasons are the best seasons
royal zenith
you're not gonna instantly parse 100's cause you suddenly got 2k vers less
digital berry
many people today coming in acting like they are owed answers and not liking the answers they get
royal zenith
it's the usual
round field
Idk
royal zenith
just beginning of the tier
round field
Stop think
weary urchin
is M+ same deal here?
round field
If robot say more dps equip item
digital berry
is M+ same deal here?
nope
round field
No mplusers are hated more
royal zenith
M+ is irrelevant the first few weeks, apart from weeklies
weary urchin
great
round field
Noob
drifting nova
remove flying from bosses when
pseudo merlin
<:SuspiciousChicken:468815079836745728> remove flying from bosses when
You're acting as if this is like a super common thing
drifting nova
You're acting as if this is like a super common thing
idk but when an asteroid spawns literally in front of me
round field
oh yeah, what's krona's rio?
Why would i care about feral player rio
drifting nova
pretty hard to not hit it
pseudo merlin
ok but they dont kekkers
royal zenith
Why would i care about feral player rio
pseudo merlin
They literally spawn exactly the same way every time
pseudo merlin
theyre literally on rails
drifting nova
ima bout to be off the rails soon
vital hound
if you want my rio, it's 2653
L bozo
vital hound
pseudo merlin
thats basically title range
royal zenith
royal zenith
true title players play double rogue tho
pseudo merlin
yeah not being able to flight f orm it is dumb
but it probably has to do with not getting a head start
that 1 second is going to break the game
you'll see 20 man druid RWF comp
meager storm
chat almost there
stuck quartz
touch grass
pseudo merlin
What do you even do with that rep
meager storm
lvl 18 is infinite aug rune
pseudo merlin
oh
vital hound
spend 100k on rune for .2% dps
maiden pasture
chat almost there
my guildie got it sunday
vital hound
maiden pasture
bro went crazy with all the alts
pseudo merlin
id rather just buy augment runes
meager storm
i only have 3 alts
desert imp
Guys, need help. Got Mythic tier helm (got a hero piece to catalyse already), hero tier shoulder (got champ tier already), hero tier chest (got chest piece to catalyse) and hero 1H Kris. I currently have only 2 piece tier (Champ shoulder and hero helm) and also have not used my both Sparks (was planning to craft 2H). Sim tells me to use Kris+OH (which i have too). What should i do, very confused 🙁
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7yz6u4V3P2odicUjQktgcg
We not going to raid mythic anytime soon (maybe in 2-3 weeks)
autumn frost
Robot says Kris, pick Kris
lofty depot
i mean why helm fuck a kris
vital hound
kris is lit
lofty depot
craft staff
lofty depot
fuck ur mom
vital hound
craft oh
desert imp
staff with Darkmoon / wrist embelish?
vital hound
staff with Darkmoon / wrist embelish?
yer its good
clever carbon
should I always wrath twice before CA? or just on pre pull
pseudo merlin
bruh that preorder mount looks fucking insane
might be one of the best looking mounts ever
stuck quartz
there are 3 mounts
pseudo merlin
voidwing
stuck quartz
1 light, 1 void, and 1 that swaps
lofty depot
should I always wrath twice before CA? or just on pre pull
u dont need to enter elcipse to press ca no
pseudo merlin
1 light, 1 void, and 1 that swaps
oh same model?
stuck quartz
ya
bleak dew
Ok i didnt get a myth MH or 2H, any thoughts on what to craft im super conflicted on OH and wrists for embellish/long term just getting those locked in versus just sending a 2H and calling it a day, I think i would be 2nd or maybe worst case 3rd in line for the mythic 1st boss weap
fluid sluice
Send 2h or coward
tiny tendon
my weapon stat simming is tipping heavily towards crit/vers
am i this down bad on those stats lmao
tiny tendon
understandably so
it just ain't right
i'm so haste/mastery coded that doing crit/vers sounds stupid 
but I know it's the right option
maiden pasture
same
bleak dew
Send 2h or coward
yeah but isnt OH end game bis so do I end up wasting the gilded for the short term gain of the 2H, maybe we just only recraft to OH after the uncap?
tiny tendon
by the time you're in a position to have end game bis you're going to have 3 extra sparks with how long it'll take
digital berry
yeah but isnt OH end game bis so do I end up wasting the gilded for the short te...
Shirt them gain is like 7% more dps
Like that’s not smth to scoff at
tiny tendon
skipping out on 150k+ dps for prog is dumb
bleak dew
It'd basically be first boss myth mace plus crafted OH in 2ish weeks, maybe 3ish weeks
I dont think we'd be extending before then
craggy sonnet
see =/= get
cobalt flare
digital berry
Worth removing the pin I guess
tiny tendon
fractillus dagger > soulbinder staff > crafted 2H > first boss 1H (probably)
digital berry
<@&114146878353833984>
urban hare
You want this unpinned, just making sure I get the right thing #balance message
tidal jolt
what embellishment is recommended for the crafted 720 staff
tiny tendon
ascension
meager storm
You want this unpinned, just making sure I get the right thing https://discord.c...
yes
digital berry
You want this unpinned, just making sure I get the right thing https://discord.c...
Yes the but is supposedly fixed
meager storm
ty
urban hare
Done!
tidal jolt
so exactly the same stuff as last season just new spark?
lofty depot
thanks for ur hard work dak
its so hard to test an lfr boss
digital berry
I can’t test it cause I don’t have 4p
ashen bloom
<:peepoHmm:1382650154137681920>
Does that mean the set bonus is good now?
craggy sonnet
it means its not scuffed on the first boss
(which i totally did not remember .. gg)
ashen bloom
Funk it, I dont feel bad about my GV choice then
fresh night
What does the opener look like without Nature's Balance? Without the 50 AP at the start I'm not able to cast the 2x starsurge after 2x wrath, starfire, dots
worldly oxide
Does anyone here know how to sim different stats for so'leah trinket? Or if it always uses the best stat in the sim, how do I know which one that is?
plush obsidian
i asked this last season but is simming 1 tar for 5 minutes still alright for m+?
craggy sonnet
sudden flame
im in the wrong chat classic
sage maple
Why is Araz's Ritual Forge listed everywhere as S tier & substantially better than every trinket, but when I sim it at mythic ilvl vs lily it's the same?
craggy sonnet
Does anyone here know how to sim different stats for so'leah trinket? Or if it a...
@loud kettle i want to believe that i saw you posting something about how to sim profilesets with each stat in a quick sim?
other than that, you can use this in the "Custom Options" box
shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type_override=XYZ
xyz being haste,mastery, versatility, crit
and it defaults to mastery for balance/feral .. haste for everyone else
craggy sonnet
Why is Araz's Ritual Forge listed everywhere as S tier & substantially better th...
do you have 4p?
worldly oxide
Thank you @craggy sonnet 🙂
meager storm
Why is Araz's Ritual Forge listed everywhere as S tier & substantially better th...
4set almost doubles its value
reef surge
Dude Ive been seeing some balance druids freaking blasting keys...
digital berry
I mean… when you’re playing with people with no hands and no 4p In pugs
vapid anvil
what embelishments do we use? cant find it on wowhead
dense steeple
EZ tier
ebon plover
hero track 
dense steeple
myth track???
dense steeple
brother 707
ebon plover
my vault was fkin dog
dense steeple
\
ebon plover
or is this all just ass
vital hound
do you have 4pc
vapid anvil
we craft weapon with ascendence
dense steeple
do you have 4pc
no
dense steeple
oh fair
vital hound
fucking warlocks man
dense steeple
hek those guys]
buoyant escarp
Is crafting a 720 belt a sim trap?
vital hound
funnelled them for all three to die on soulbinder
ebon plover
big
vital hound
ebon plover
ig you could take ring
true that do be 7500 haste
vital hound
the ring is kinda stinky tho
ebon plover
very stinky
vital hound
do you have 4pc
ebon plover
if i get a tier piece from raid ill grab the 4 set
digital berry
mog?
sage maple
do you have 4p?
yes
golden belfry
Cost
uneven dagger
Hey guys I'm looking for advice. I'm in a heroic guild with 2pc and I have myth parapodia and hero tier legs in vault. Which one would you take
I have two okay champ trinkets
golden belfry
Trink
digital berry
Hey guys I'm looking for advice. I'm in a heroic guild with 2pc and I have myth ...
have you simmed it?
uneven dagger
Well yes of course. But the choice isn't really between 4 piece and the trinket
Obviously the 4 piece will sim better
It's more about whether that trinket itself is worth it
golden belfry
In a heroic guild, will get them eventually and don't care about myth prog
uneven dagger
The trinket is probably the responsible choice
craggy sonnet
paropodia is not the best passive out there
loud kettle
<@416041385800761344> i want to believe that i saw you posting something about h...
profileset."Crit"+=shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type="crit"
profileset."Haste"+=shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type="haste"
profileset."Versatility"+=shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type="versatility"
craggy sonnet
in theory you have 2 shots at getting myth soleahs every week
strong burrow
pre 4 set is keeper stronger in mplus or elune?
craggy sonnet
```
profileset."Crit"+=shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type="crit"
profile...
tyvm! i was already looking for this yesterday and couldnt find it for the life of me
uneven dagger
The only reason I was not excited about parapodia is because two farmable trinkets are higher sim for me on a lower track.
hoary torrent
Hey guys I'm looking for advice. I'm in a heroic guild with 2pc and I have myth ...
Sim it Vs other trinks in HC for you if it outsims HC trinks for you take it
uneven dagger
Sim it Vs other trinks in HC for you if it outsims HC trinks for you take it
Makes sense
What are people mainly running in raid for hero?
Anecdotally
I played keeper because I hate casting Starfire in raid lol
digital berry
check wclogs
hoary torrent
Antenna, araz, eco dome trinks priory trink, dawnbreaker trink, if your myth track parapodia Sims higher than those at hero track I would take it
craggy sonnet
```
profileset."Crit"+=shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type="crit"
profile...
oh, actually you have to use shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type_override for your profilesets as well
uneven dagger
Antenna, araz, eco dome trinks priory trink, dawnbreaker trink, if your myth tra...
Ty nice list
loud kettle
despair
normal pilot
hm wtf are there 2 soleah options
normal pilot
oh this was back when we were moving from sim-wide to player-wide
hm this is kind of a mess
bronze pine
So why does Bloodmallet have a trinket from ulduar in the top 2. Is that an aquireable trinket?
delicate perch
jade flume
Ye timewalking ulduar was available, not sure if it still is
gentle scaffold
Alright need some insight.
I am an idiot and crafted my wrists last week without a thought in my head to craft 2h. I am stupid, I know.
I forgot to run the rest of my delves, so I pay the price with a vet track helmet in the vault.
I currently have 2p2p, hero track chest.
I have random main hand off hand currently.
Sim says 4 piece (I can catalyst shoulders and take helm here) but I wont be able to craft 2h for a minute due to my mistakes.
Any advice?
obsidian girder
do some raids and see if you can get a tier piece
cause that weapon looks real nice
oh wait
thats hc...
craggy sonnet
its hero
obsidian girder
damn
gentle scaffold
I am in a pickle with this one, lmao. Wish I knew what I was doing, I am very casual and havent min maxed, so I pay the price haha
vital hound
Alright need some insight.
I am an idiot and crafted my wrists last week without...
that ring is very good
hero track though
cloud plover
Alright need some insight.
I am an idiot and crafted my wrists last week without...
just grab tierpiece from delve and call it a day
gentle scaffold
just grab tierpiece from delve and call it a day
thats what I was figuring
craggy sonnet
(i would just get a socket)
gentle scaffold
I mean I can keep simming and find the littlest things, or just grab 4p now and run dungeons/raid (if we actually run raid) until I get what I need'
I appreciate the help gents
meager storm
almost 16 before reset
craggy sonnet
on alts
craggy sonnet
how many alts did you do, jesus
meager storm
3
vital hound
dense steeple
yea i was gonna say thats 3 minimum
vital hound
im at 9
cinder dirge
Is this supposed to be rank 1 or is it a typo?
wind lion
Guys... is it worth it to use 2pc + 2pc tier set for Raid ??
lofty depot
Is this supposed to be rank 1 or is it a typo?
lol well if the r2 is better
and the r3 is better
cinder dirge
you would think so but wow doesnt always follow logic
normal pilot
smh is tettles baiting ppl again
lofty depot
Guys... is it worth it to use 2pc + 2pc tier set for Raid ??
it is good
u can sim it
ruby flicker
so with 4 set its wrath wrath ca moonfire sunfire trees convoke into wrath/surge spam not to cap, when dryad fades use CA and dump ap on surge?
cinder dirge
@lofty depot i really want to sit here and talk shit but you have a good night buddy hope your mood improves
lofty depot
