#balance
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just gonna brain off and do it again this season
Cant be that hard right
Surely
That's usually what u should do tho
Took us as long as lormorthar in main raid
ye
fkin 684 jug sims so got dang high
so pissed I forgot to buy it
ecodome is ez tho
Nothing is ez with randoms in group
Nice and quick too
Also idk if i can get into a group even lol
what ilvl is your boomy?
Lets go
Trade me weap trinket i trade u pants

I think I was pugging 10 eco at 692
Cant trade trinkets 
Gg
I need neck trinket weap
If ur na/oce I can help a brother out next reset and I don’t need any gear from it 🫡
Man i did 10priory
maybe ur spec really isnt good
I looted
wait nvm i forgot ascendance
That's crazy, cuz I knew that already
Ele sham alt time
Alt privilege
U also dont have primary gem 
Im sending alt raid on priest
this is ur simc bis profile
cry to them about it
Can’t get a piece on main it’s always in ur alts cache
Low key i could see me playing shadow on forgeweaver
idk where else to find a good balance set
Raidbots
from a boss
You dont
You loot item sim item equip item
It's not a bis list. It's just a set of gear that we used and messed with a bunch prepatch
Its fine, but those aren't bis lists
simc is generally the place where "the highest simming sheet is uploaded", generally its referred to as bis even though a lot of people dont upkeep it, so i get it
And let it run for 2 months
like last season when balance was still in pre turbo boost gear even end of season 
Referred to as bis by the uninformed
man trying to do this with topgear is so annoying tho
Cause no one gives a shit about simc "bis" sim
No point in updating it
Man, this nexus king guy
Its not really useful info
Looks low key free or
or
How is it a pain?
Take off the replace gems button and just sim the diffys
Ragebait
im not the most amazing at topgear stuff, so right now with this profile, it has 720 wrists equipped, telling it to sim 704 wrists as well just doesnt sound like its gonna work typa thing
idk how to make it generate proper gear lists with the items i actually want it to use that way
im not experienced enough to understand how to downgrade items properly i think
So if I don't get myth weapon in vault today I craft 2 hand ?
Wdym
unselecting the 720 wrists says i cant generate a valid combo, so im trying to figure it out atm
are delves still the least amount of effort for vault on alts
Yes, u could also wait if u think no one wants hero kris
Theres literally a prompt you can put any item at any ilvl into the sim...
But nonetheless 2h fine
man are you really fucking telling me jug outsims all m+ trinkets up to 704?
Yes?
good item

Need the non embelled one
okay i think i didnt cook
anyone got a link to the evoker discord?
just because they are better?
🚪
im not blizzard i didnt make balance ass
doubt it
doing the lords work
Didn't ask, now ur on the hook for all of our problems
dont give me that much power
might as well leave the server
nice try
so close
yeah almost almost
Good morning, can anyone tell me why the balance status changed?
is this gonna be some funny joke
I played vault simulator like 5 times and I was disappointed all 5 times
Should I be using LS on single target with the new set?
So I'm fully ready for a bricked vault today
Simulate your weekly Great Vault rewards in World of Warcraft. Calculate tier piece probabilities, preview loot options, and see exactly how your weekly activities affect vault outcomes.
I roll one
do we wait with refreshing sunfire in the opener until the 2nd CA runs out?
If my vault is like the simulated one i think i uninstall
Bro all 5 rolls i saw 1tier piece and it was a hat ||I'm already wearing hero track hat||
YOOO I GOT LILY
who cares about delves
Free loot
i think this is rigged i got boots 5 times in a row
Status of what
I'm bricked
21 vaults!!!
Its gonna take you 21 vaults to get antenna
I honestly wouldn't mind the HoA ring just so I can get rid of this heroic jastor
fuck yeah i got 2 belts
not looking great

U don't want that
U want the priory ring
i wonder if dimensius trinket would be good for m+
ty its my normal one
n
rmal
Anyone just done a 10 key for vault that didn't count? Did gambit 10++ and it's not counted 😮
god I hate that we have differing stats now for kotg/EC 
Just acquire the gear
Are stats diffy for kotg
Wth
ec is haste..right?
Ye
haste gang rise
Mastery/haste
getting the right gear is
it's having 2 sets of gear
didn't people hate reforging
no
well mechanically no
it having a gold cost yes
blizzard were like "we know everyone uses an addon" so we're removing it
which didnt change the fact people wanted different stats
mostly hit/expertise
but getting a shit mastery bit of gear and transfering 30% to haste
atleast made it..useful
then they did very same problem but 10x worse with bfa pieces
removing hit/expertise didnt magically fix shitty itemised bits of gearing existing
People hated reforging because of hit
mechanically it was one of the best things they ever released
it existed to fix hit/exp
Reforging made hit achievable without bricking every good piece of loot by needing to ignore it cause u weren’t at hit cap
but had more than just 1 purpose
in my mind blizzard wanted it to act as a gold sink
Reforgelite my goat
and people didnt sink enough via the addon
so it was 150g
instead of 1k
testing items
like how expensive transmogging is now
by far the best part of wow removed from the game
if not that then top 3
I didn't understand the balance gear
What don't u understand
Stats change our talents and tier set have shit haste scaling
Well no haste scaling
But vers and Crit be scaling
Which funny cuz why need more Crit, when 50/50
Need more vers
Take no damage
Do big damage
Win win
How big do u think our aura buff is gonna after the race
9%
I'm guessing another 8 cause they are lazy
With 5% starfall nerf
Simming gems with Culminating gem hurts my brain, not least cause raidbots loves to just sometimes show a topgear result of it just moving my ring slots around and gems around, but it all being the same just in different positions
15x spell power gogogog
We do want to maximise the Culminating gem right by having four colours ?
Crit gem better
sorry typo ive changed
Uhhh, I don't remember
Id assume max colors was better
It's kinda crazy how much they just aura buff without changing anything
What else do u want
After development is over
Theyre done
You change numbers now
Better luck next patch
Click max colors
Thought when I read that, it was saying it just tries to match colors, but its also catering for my stats?
so acceleration is no longer used?
Ye
What's acceleration
If you dont have it selected it doesnt sim it
Haste
6.6m iterations jaysus
yeah it jumped
Haste beans
It only sims all same by default
sorry, I'm using Google translate
To save processing
Well I was talking about 2 thinks I didn't know if u meant speed or haste
For the primary gem or the secondary gems
how many % of each status?
Thanks!!
@lofty depot refresh sunfire during 2nd ca in opener or after?
Think it does it during
thanks
After the 2 buffed surges
Hello, just trying to understand the rotational changes with keeper 4 piece. The idea is to send 2 spenders before trees is to ensure that trees and CA end roughly the same time so that the two buffed starsurges can be under both buffs correct?
Yes
But in the opener u use the 2ne CA charge at that 2-3s left mark to then send 2 surges
Oh interesting, no longer lining up 2nd CA with trees?
Nop
What’s the thought there? Balance of all things crit?
Yes
Trees + CA buffs on 2 buffed surges
Okay that’s fair. If I play trees in m+ has anything changed?
Uhh, don't play keeper in m+

It looks like I still trees before CA and then when dryad’s buff starts I just surge twice?
U do negative DPS outside of cds
nothing about keeper sounds fun in m+
U woudl still ca 2 globals and trees
I did it in M+ and it was comparable to Elune on another boomie
is the tw weekly not hero?

Lock in, drink is available
nerfed sippin
why does the vault still not say what ilvl levels of things are holy
did kekkers just get baited
Is the dream grove instructions for aoe in keeper not updated?
na doing alts and idk what's easiest
prob delves but idk
updated for the latest theorycrafting on keeper aoe
or whatever a m2 is
Wrong hero talents in wrong content
is there a point where keeper is better in keys or is EC always best
i dont see any reason to double CA in m+ as keeper

I’m not asking about double CA
Keeper in keys is beans
EC is better in all key range if you play well
low keys that are being timed if you afk, but you'd then cd something as keeper and afk for 5 hours with 0 dps
what does beans mean
Imagine doing zdps for multiple packs
good or bad
beans = bad
ok thanks
R u from the UK?
australia unfortunately
bro was keen
ahh a racist
yep
Then how don't u know
Im asking asking where trees land, before or after Incarn
@vital hound NAHHH
arc do you ever sleep
ok thanks
just use trees a global or something after incarn
i tried a few keys as keeper and was ripping threat off teh tank
can do treants first if you play Bounteous Bloom
and stopped
Also no, sleep when I'm dead
idk if my tank was just shit but i kept yoinking threat in a 7 with keeper lmao
Well yea
anyone doing a 7 is not going to be powerful
im powerful in every key
tank shit
i need a tuesday game for when i cant sleep
tft

it literally says on that page the two specs play close to each other i prefer playing keepers 
@past tide
Oh he knows

So what buff are they sneaking into the tuning notes for reset 
Adept twitter good roo
Not enough cawck
None for u
Is it normal to just eat shit on Soulbinder? I'm doing below 4mil dps and there's a bunch of aoe
nope
In normal maybe if everything instadies
Soulbinder shit boss
By the time you get your dots up the adds are dead
HC
it's a terrible boss for balance
You wouldnt say that at lan buddy
we're also just terrible at add cleave in general
and this tier we're even mid on sustained 3 target
Balance shadow crash when
I ain't afraid of no pumpkin
Im jacked homie 170cm 170kgs
Foe is gonna do that soon
Foe applying moonfire would unrionically be a great talent to stick in EC
we will get completely new hero talents
Yeah but we can’t have nothing nice
We dimensius now
That wouldn’t even be worth

I'm ok with this
no shot
this
just give us back old mastery at this point
If we go back to WoD eclipse we can have WoD mastery back 
target swapping ass
Im not really a stellar drift coper
Nah I'm okay without drift
If drift means we go back to placed-zone starfall I reject drift every time
just play evoker if you want to cast while moving
U can play mage and shaman if u want it too
tbf it's prolly normal to eat shit everywhere
it's that bad?
well eat shit is exaggerated
This is my first season ever playing as boomking and I went in blind 🤷♀️
but balance is one of the lowest ranged dps classes atm
I didn't exactly gouge out my own eyes
I'm looking at my fucking dps on this fight and I might in 10 minutes or so
if you get tired of low dps you can always swap to feral
@dense steeple bruh people just dont play with warmode on
this bird was propbably flying around for hours
I don't know how to play feral and I also don't really have weapon and trinkets for that
but worth considering
U got time on the bench
just need to grab a weapon, tank some keys
Can easily learn
to be completely honest, unless you are raiding at a Hall of fame level you can get CE and clear every boss as every spec
Or having fun
if you want to see yourself do more damage play feral
I can clear most bosses on the floor dead, doesn’t mean I want to
I'm pugging, people see me doing 70% of first guy's dps and they start wondering if kicking me out is the right choice
well i dont think that will happen in a pug
Tbh a pug inviting a balance Druid is not the smartest rl
anyone with a brain should see you rip a monster opener and be ahead of almost everyone in burst window
you're statistically very likely to beat most people in a pug as any spec
In this party I have 3 people with 5+ mil dps and I'm roughly at 3.5
People declining people who aren't above 690 for timewalking 
I'm not complaining ofc but kinda worried 😄
what boss?
the shitbinder
Me trying to get into 10s on my 689 warlock
Only keys done this season are ++10s
Chain rejected for 2 hours xd
Like it's actually fucking wild how these people will sit in queue for 20 minutes to fill an ulduar group with 690s

Start ur own
Yeah it's faster
My key was a 2 and it was Monday night
there's absolutely no reason to stick with a spec, they don't develop this game to be balanced so go where you'll have more fun, it's your time and $$
Yeah people who sit in queue for 25 minutes for an 8 just pmo
Best way to kill ruk for sure
i finished that boss at 4.1 and i dont think i even had 2 set at that time. and it was like a mid 70s parse
To parse on that shit you need your group to enable you or be bad
i just go full ST on boss until the big adds spawn at 2 min then go big then back to ST
I just wanna know what all those Chinese boomkins have on their guild that they get constant PI and no one cleaving every tier
"they"
They take turns parsing
They're CCP members, forced to receivePI
Does Goldrin work on the starsurges from elunes chosen tier set?
love it for myself that this unresponsive shaman insta equipped living flame on their 610 toon
No
why is this trinket so good again?
it does
it does more dmg than the starsurge 
(sample size of 1)
Yeah but I'm shit at the game too
Oh, it's not supposed to
they just never fixed it
first bluepost said it wouldnt but it always did
typical misinformation spreader
they should embrace it
make the split surges proc it aswell
Servers up?
supposed to be a 2hr maint
How are you guys doing in raids? I’ve been doing pretty decent DPS but I dont know if that’s a reflection of my abilities or if my raid team needs to do better. Out dpsing hunters/dks/mages
im sorry
but if ur doing more dps than those specs they are like playing with their monitors turned off
or pc turned off
yo Oi, quick question, whats the point in tracking dryad in your WA pack?
playing from smart fridge touchpad
i get tracking the favor
If ec is triggering dogs and the sim doesn’t account for that, is ec technically ahead of kotg in st?
Your guild will quite literally not make the dps check to pass the first boss if this is even remotely true
it does
because you have a 2s window to fire both surges?
look 2nd screenshot i sent
and its good to know when you might gcd fuck yourself
Ohhh
Yes we struggled on mythic plex yesterday, soaking seems to be a big issue but we resolved it. I think the dps is hurting us.
Yes
not sure why you are assuming the sim doesnt account for that
Again if what you said is true, there's probably no point in trying
Farm HC for 3-4 more weeks
well I mean, there's 2 things it tracks right
one is the favor
which is the 2 surges
then the other is just some dryads face
that literally never changes
does it, am I just blind
idk
maybe you messed up the text in it
maybe its different in the standalone thing
if thats what you are using
i was using the standalone and it never changed
now I'm on the WA pack and i don't recall it counting down
Alright this is Elune's chosen fight then, I swapped and went to 4.2 mil with much chaos going on
I'll check again later when servers are up
miracles are real
which one?
also, the cleaner icon pack for Ois WA, where do I extract those files?
soulbinder, not sure why I had Keeper selected
Nah id go keeper
I think I tried copying talents from n.1 parse and it fucked up somehow
Literal blue post saying they remove
U might be able to scam a good parse with elune if ur group doesnt kill adds but it shouldnt be a problem
We killed the boss with 70% of the raid dead including two tanks and me being hit in melee by the boss, so I think this speaks for the quality of my group
Anyone else had the thing on mail boss in tazavesh where extra action button just auto presses when u pick up bomb
So u just insta throw bomb everytime
probably a second more and I'd be toast
Trying to figure out if its a bug or something on my side
What time is vault at
They gotta kill dimensius stat I need my balance buffs
2 minutes?
maintenance scheduled for another hour still
It could just be the same icon but you want an easy way to track when it runs out for sure
Why do u not ping me though
Id never see that if I wasn't scrolled up
because like
bad things happen
sometimes people get pissed about pings
I never wanna be that guy yk
and I wasn't even sure lol, prob not worth a ping
pings and phonecalls are offensive, get with the time old man
Id never ping oi
I'll just ping whoever tbh, if they don't like it they can object
@pallid bay dumbass
meanwhile, all my discord pings are meaningless to me
brother
you need a "mark all as read" button
please press read all
this
i got a vencord plugin for it
this is already driving me nuts
just turn off everything except direct pings
i click this and mark every notification and ping as read in every server at once
idk why ppl keep all the random announces and shit on
and yeah this
nah there's some servers I do need to see all pings in
Vencord still works? at some point it broke for me and I couldn't get it to work
yes
wtf is vencord
Betterdiscord
like a discord addon
probably broke when discord forced their visual revamp earlier this year
gives you some things that improve ui and some such
Wheres the warden image
it has a bunch of plugins it can do whatever you want
I remember that it had fake nitro so you could stream in higher qualities but I don't think it works anymore
3ish
11 PT no?
8 cest I believe
Voidkins Inc
or was it 10 pt
I like expansion reveals
Keep on huffing on that copium and you might end up in the hospital
midnight better rework xalataths feet
You will get reworked hero talents either way
those chonkers are attrocious
you're gonna get void gems
that you can slot into teh hero tree
if you spend void points

new legendary where everybody becomes Malzahar and spawns little voidlings
Gonna void your opinions
There has to be a better idea for hero talents than "now a random talent has 4 new buffs tied to it"
it's like in destiny 2 when you unlock new type of power
no
yeah, a diff talent has 5 new buffs to it
everyone is gonna be void something?
and priests will be double void something I suppose
I was typing this fuck
Solar Eclipse is now useless cause there's no sun in the void
Massive
what if
maybe this'll be the return of void elune spells that disappeared in tww beta
The only moonkin change in midnight is that now there's a void glyph for starfall?
even with tier
Power of Voidrinn
Spriests gonna shut down their discord in protest
Denisen of the Void 
What if elunes chosen was a placeholder this whole time
why does everyone say spriest and not sp
this started happening like in dragonflight
And void chicken / void bear was the real endgame
sp is spell power
Source?
I have a family member at blizzard
nah i aint buying it
his dads uncles brothers third cousin on his moms side works at blizzard
Tyrande sacrifices elune to finally get her revenge on sylvanas and we're all swallowed by the void
What if we are finally freed from balance and they remove it for midnight
I hope so
Sylvanas cameo coming in hot
There was a leak stating that spell customization was an upcoming feature…considering that glyphs have been crap for so long I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a revamp of some sort
Balance turns into imbalance
Voidlance..... GIVE!!
Then she stabs lorethemar and yells for the horde?
Sounds like normal afrasiabi writing
yeah and we do quests for her as if nothing happened
when NA reset
36 mins until servers supposed to be up
O shit I better get home
gg..
anyone know where to put the high res icon pack for Ois WA?
nvm googled it, found it
jusat ping oi
So self-sufficient

Thats crazy
30min
lol i'm logged in and doing keys 
same
eu nerds
Ameridiots lulw
imaging being behind
when was the last time u won
This time
like 2 yrs ago
Give it a few more days buddy
^
sneak.lua appears in the chat
i blame the europeans they picked up
servers up
ye it's cloaks they fixed
😭 do I play for long game take chest for cata next week? trinket? fuck I need to sim
Gl making a decision
your taking a myth helm?
what else did you get
i think you should take the ring
lmao
helm every day
ngl I think I take myth dagger
do i take the plexhammer or belt and craft a off hand?
I have no idea what to take 
Myth track chest for cata is long play in a 1 day a week guild but forge is stonks
Definitely forge
do i take the myth belt or do i take hero plexhammer with avoid
There will be more myth chests
Sim the belt
sim the belt
what is it
u could wait for another plex kill and see tho
Sadge vault
crystal good
just did a quick sim and saw that moonfire uptime is dogshit are sims broken ?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gmf4Y7mKtKYac2LfrAvKc9
true
gotta love the 2.6k que
click the down arrow on trees
p nice p nice
@lofty depot I am locking in too
probably a lily angle
bro complaining about free socket week 2
so I'm happy I got the helm
ring sims ok for me
ayoooooooo
Do you take gloves or legs? I have 697 non tier gloves already
we take those

holy moly, the choices: I think I take Para and craft a 2h?
FUGGN LOCK THE FUCK IN
take the 2 hand
ooo myth staff
early weapon always appreciated
Why would you go for that over the trinkets if we hunt for voidkris in the end?
if you hunt for voidkris you also hunt for antenna
why would you take the trinket then
What would you guys do? Hero staff but I don't have 4p yet.
has anyone in NA that only killed plexus sentinel and soulbinder seen loomithar gear in their vault?
and if you are talking hc voidkris
its ok either way
its definitely not better than myth track weapon
Ah I see
also staff good for EC m+
uhm
take 2 hand craft 2 items this week
time to craft a weapon 
we had about 4 antennas show up so yeah
but its a sim angle
Truth
and a "what u want to do" angle
I need some advice. I'm going to assume that taking a hero track set piece is a higher priority than replacing a blue neck piece I haven't been able to replace
I dont have myth available
ok so then we go down the prio list
is there a way to sim so'leah's different stats or does it just assume the best?
my neck right now is explorer, and the highest available is veteran 4.
which tier piece is supposed to be the worst one? I see shoulders on the bis list but has worse stats than the legs
shoulders bad
there is, but i dont have the lines
hmmm idk, the neck isnt that good
the vault isnt good in general lmao
what neck do u have
hero
was gonna craft a 2 hander, but the pelxhammer is there, but sims say its dps less so idk
memento sims nicely doesnt it
memento is barely a dps increase even with the raid spec
do u guys think its always wep?
its probably momento or sockey
i have 2p2p, 1 cata currently
kinda disgusting to tkae hero helm
could wait for raid
see if rl gives u item
then take scokey
is my tooltip bugged? those numbers seem crazy high compared to what i thought it was
hello guys
not bugged
the surge does bis dam
craft a staff today probably the move?
this is over 8miuntes

9 minutes actually
🤢
for most people yes
Craft a hamma you mean
staff
Hamma superiority
Would a staff be better to craft? I'm used to crafting a weapon first on my main
have 3/6 hero helm im waiting to cata so not taking helm, we dont do loot con but i dont think plex is dropping or im getting it, so not too sure what ima do, cabochon sims 40k dps more out of the options besides memento in raid but eh
do i even really take signet if it says its an upgrade knowing others r better?
huh
signet in myth pretty good still
depends what 'others' you mean
staff good yes
signet and lily are probably the best one to get from m+
everybody wants that
think you'll be getting araz in myth anytime soon?
no one wants plex mace tho
heroic
if im going to start mythic raiding soon, what would my crafting prio be? is it still a 2h staff or like an OH?
priory mythic doesnt sim better?
Dont Shamans want it?
is it just a lily angle, or sacbrood less likely to be replaced?
sac is ass
Who plays that
sacbrood poopoo
lily > sac
that solves that then
i just checked though, antenna/araz @ 710 together beats out myth signet in that combo
what are mythic raiders with no mythic weapon crafting this week with their 2 sparks?
mythic weapon
2h?
if you get none from vault most likely yes
unless you want to gamble for mace from first boss
yeah both
but you're replacing one trinket
anyway
we are so back
holy

yeah that staff is nutso
it's the one I wanted
wait nvm
it's not the one I wanted
or am I tripping
Helm cata no?
hoa is haste crit
oh is it
gambit is mast haste
i mean, i had to check too so lol
are you folks gearing for keys or raid? since raid now has us take other secondary stat values
simmed 2 hand crafted and its just better so im thinking of just crafting 2 hander and just grabbing the neck
the content you play
🤔 i plan to craft oh or staff so guessing the fated staff is a bust so its between lily/soleah's... soleah seems to sim fairly well a heroic antenna is only 7-8k more but araz heroic is still decently above a myth lily
i do both
you right
Some of us care about raid more
fuq. do I take mythic sacbrood or my 3rd tier piece (hero) in the vault..
dont ping me..
Negative on the cata charge. I'm at 0
So u get another one next week
Yeah, so I feel like I should take the tier to have 4 pc next week unfortunately
Or get tier from raid this week







