balance

[minor swift]

I’ve got so many cancelled casts, muscle memory to enter the correct eclipse not there just yet haha

Would being incorrectly geared/not optimal stats affect your parses?

I’m new to raiding

[lucid olive]

yes

[dapper wing]

Yes

[digital berry]

Yes

[tough yarrow]

please dont laugh at me...I have just 2+2 set and my guild is progging normal Dimensius (yes we are noobs). shall I use st kotg or the M+ KOTG?

[digital berry]

St kotg

[dapper wing]

Check logs

But kotg

[lofty depot]

theres not a need for twin moons or kindling so yea st

[tough yarrow]

tyvm ❤️

[graceful ermine]

any one feel llag in raid ?

[bronze tartan]

ehm is control of the dream still bugged??

[round field]

yes

[stiff mauve]

How early are we changing our belt for another piece?

[dapper wing]

Whenever something Sims higher

But probably around 701+

Depends on the belt

[stiff mauve]

a 694 belt sims higher right now, and that just seems off

[dapper wing]

What proc are you using on belt

[stiff mauve]

Charged bolts, right now

[tropic pollen]

Thoughts on sending one of the catalyst charges to make 2-set? I'm hoping I can still get 4-set next week, but it would limit my options out of raid and from the vault by one, obviously (I've already got tier legs from the vault, so that's eliminated).

[teal lichen]

Don't send cata on 2pc until you see your vault. What if you cata gloves and get myth gloves in vault

[tropic pollen]

Yeah, that's my initial reaction, but the guild I'm in raids heroic Sundays and Mondays, so it would be nice to have the 2pc for that.

[teal lichen]

nah sandbag so they give you the hero tier tokens and then just get 4pc 😉

[lofty depot]

well thats not the one u should be using

so that makes sense

[tropic pollen]

good thinking

[stiff mauve]

Lol, im an idiot. Which one we use in raid?

[dapper wing]

Haste, crit, verse peocs

Procs

Sim which one is best for you in top gear

Ooh. Forgemaster dead

With the most shit loot I've seen

[worldly spruce]

kill was kinda clean

[drifting nova]

are there any aoe boss fights in raid

[digital berry]

Soul hunters

[deft crown]

how can i add dryad buff to afenar druid ui?

[digital berry]

Council fight

[drifting nova]

not forge?

just kinda vibing and cba looking up whats st/aoe

[digital berry]

Yeah forge has adds

[stiff mauve]

Thanks Myth! All 4 procs simmed higher 😅

[drifting nova]

many adds, small hp adds or

[digital berry]

They die real fast in heroic

[drifting nova]

oh it's normal so

[digital berry]

Normal just always go st unless it’s council

[lofty depot]

https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet

or use the oibalance pack cuz its better

[deft crown]

oof this is better ye, i used afenar since shadowlands really cool looking design, but this is nice thanks

[lofty depot]

he also plays balance and updates it

tragic

[deft crown]

yeah thanks for the tip, i like the handicap thing built in when to cast starfire to get back to solar haha

[minor swift]

I’m also using Afenar, if it’s that old maybe that explains my parses (just let me believe it)

[pseudo merlin]

afenar bis

[deft crown]

i want oibalance with afenar design

[lofty depot]

u dont need all that

i always hated the moving buffs

[dapper wing]

Krona all da way

[lofty depot]

hes a feral main

cant have that

[velvet sentinel]

krona is the druid dps temperature check for raids on feral vs balance lol

[cloud lion]

lock the discord we are not even played on DH fights

[primal oriole]

Agreed

[pseudo merlin]

love not being able to mount on dimensius

good thing this was all tested

[digital berry]

Never had that problem

[dapper wing]

No boomkins in rwf. Buffs after copium

[pseudo merlin]

boomie ret arms is gonne be god comp after post RWF buffs

[digital berry]

Delusional

You’ll get a 3% and you’ll like it

[pseudo merlin]

I will yeah

[dapper wing]

I'll fucking take 3%

Means I'll be 3% better than I already am over these shitter fotms

[autumn turret]

thinking about comming back to WoW after a long time, is Balance druid good atm?

[digital berry]

No

Sub par st and mid aoe

[autumn turret]

i guess that saves me time ill wait for next expac

[pseudo merlin]

try the one after that

[regal olive]

Hello maybe this is common question sorry.
Is it possible to have macro for Incarnation: Chosen of Elune that will disable double cast while old one is active?

[pseudo merlin]

It's not common at all

This is a problem for like 1 in a million people

[autumn turret]

is this random disney cartoon villian the villian for all 3 of these group expansions?

that purple girl

[pseudo merlin]

I think so

[autumn turret]

oof

[pseudo merlin]

She was pretending to be the good guy to help us with the end boss of this expansion

[regal olive]

Unfortunately "!" doesnt work on Incarnation: Chosen of Elune. That usually prevents cast something you have already on, I have it for Prowl
/cast !Prowl

[pseudo merlin]

But now that she has his power she's obviously not the good guy anymore

[autumn turret]

i would think a Tri-expansion would have some omega epic boss like Sargeras foreal

[pseudo merlin]

Dimensius is pretty epic

[autumn turret]

never heard of him

[pseudo merlin]

Man's more powerful than sargeras

He's a void lord

[autumn turret]

oh

[pseudo merlin]

They're like the titan's bosses

but like I know nothing about lore so don't quote me on that

[autumn turret]

i only know about the real lore

[dapper wing]

Titans > Void lords

[autumn turret]

and not the filler after Legion

[pseudo merlin]

Yeah AFAIK there's no way to prevent it

[autumn turret]

anime filler

[dapper wing]

But a void corrupted titan would be stronger than anything

[autumn turret]

when is new expansion reveal?

next week?

[dapper wing]

We already know the next 2

[autumn turret]

no i mean like more specifics

[dapper wing]

Ah

[autumn turret]

like maybe boomking rework

[pseudo merlin]

next week

[dapper wing]

I think the next mini blizzard thing is the 26th?

[pseudo merlin]

19th?

[dapper wing]

Oh is it 29ths

[pseudo merlin]

wait

thats in 2 days

[dapper wing]

19th

[autumn turret]

oh wow

hope its good Cinemtatic

like epic story for first zone

[pseudo merlin]

11 am PDT on the 19th

midnight reveal

[autumn turret]

Also I hope Legion Remix has a Fel Boomkin form unlock 😄

please

[dapper wing]

It has fel flight form

[pseudo merlin]

they already talked about all the rewards right

[dapper wing]

For hitting max

[autumn turret]

oh dang

[pseudo merlin]

actually?

firebird still wins

[dapper wing]

Firebird does win

It's just a recolor

[pseudo merlin]

wait where can I see this form

is it just the lunarwing?

[dapper wing]

Wowhead

Yes

Each class is getting a fel recolor of their class order hall

[pseudo merlin]

ah

[dapper wing]

For hitting max

Also think you can buy it with bronze

[pseudo merlin]

I just want this as travel form

[devout fiber]

Look. That’s you

[autumn turret]

lol

[pseudo merlin]

arent the voidlords way stronger?

[devout fiber]

Yes. That’s why we need the jailer to come back

[dapper wing]

From the old cosmology. (Don't know if it changed with sl)

[devout fiber]

[pseudo merlin]

yeah that's what im going with

that drawing I saw probably like 20 years ago now

[dapper wing]

Titans were meant to be the strongest thing

[pseudo merlin]

when

[dapper wing]

A corrupted world soul is meant to be stronger than anything

I don't remember where I heard it. From one of the lore tubers. It's just what I've been under the assumption

[pseudo merlin]

i see

but a world soul is just a baby titan

right

[dapper wing]

Mhm

Azeroth is a world soul

Which is why the old gods are here. Why sargaras was so hellbent on destroying us.

[solid herald]

when running KoTG why is it wanting a sunfire span in solar eclipse?

[digital berry]

What

Who is wanting what?

[dapper wing]

Are you playing Mop?

instead of retail

[dry compass]

3 target spread cleave boss, zero boomie comp resto druid brought for buff

CLASS IS FINE

[lofty depot]

well part of us playing keeper current is clipping ca

[digital berry]

Yall care a little bit too much about rwf comps

[lofty depot]

theres a castsequence one that stops a double press

but u should just stop spamming the button

[regal olive]

@lofty depot ty, if you have the sequence can you share?

[lofty depot]

ctrl + f

/castsequence reset=5 Celestial Alignment, 1

[tame dome]

can anyone explain why we hold force of nature for 2 globals after cooldowns for me?

[lofty depot]

so u get the 24% buff on the 2 buffed surges

[digital berry]

Ca = 12 seconds, trees and dryad = 10 seconds

You want trees to apply to the 2 surges you get after dryad expires and also still be in ca window

[tame dome]

ah ok I don't have that yet

ty

[shy void]

i can just complete and turn in the cracked keystone quest next week right

it's just once per season so i don't gotta do it now

[opaque pebble]

anyone got a working innervateme weakaura?

[digital berry]

What do you want innervate to do

[copper vortex]

https://wago.io/4FrVgYjIh

[opaque pebble]

when someoen whispers me, it lights up their name and pops up a thing on screen to press the button

[digital berry]

Oh that, it wasn’t working for me last season

[copper vortex]

It works for me, I don't know.

[digital berry]

Probably just user error

[copper vortex]

in the custom options u can modify the keywords for the aura. The only thing i can think of that could go wrong

[digital berry]

In my raid they just call out for it

[granite frigate]

hows balance in m+ rn? 🙂

[digital berry]

Ok

[lofty depot]

uhh prob but it doesnt count towards cap

[regal olive]

in m+ bigger pull where is the sweet spot between applying Moonfire and starting full dps rotation?

[spice thunder]

it does

[digital berry]

Apply moonfire to everything that lives longer then 5/6 seconds

So not to things that have like 20 mill hp since they just explode

[scarlet tapir]

hah, u guys wont even see play in soul hunters, close the class discord

[digital berry]

I’ll play on every boss probably so

[scarlet tapir]

competing with tank

great

[digital berry]

Projecting much

[shy void]

yeah i heard it lets you go over the cap this week but i don't want it to do something weird next week. guess it's a pretty new quest (introduced last season) so details are fuzzy

oh well skip doing an extra dungeon at my peril

like i could turn it in on tuesday and have the 15 crests count toward the newly raised cap

[lofty depot]

no it doesnt

[lofty depot]

it goes over the cap

[shy void]

yeah and your dad makes more money than mine too but my mind remains at peace

i've found my center

https://tenor.com/view/wide-awake-owl-insomnia-gif-19265651

[shy void]

ty ty

[scarlet tapir]

u cant say that with a straight face i know it

[lofty depot]

its ok, im having fun

[spice thunder]

xd

[opaque pebble]

perfect tyt

[meager storm]

it counted towards the cap earlier on the week

and they did some fix or some sht

and then it went over the cap

[merry ibex]

we're number one dps in everyones hearts

[shy void]

maybe not but

[merry ibex]

I'm unironically having alot of fun in keys

[calm wave]

any 4set wa tracker? couldnt find one looking myself like your dyrads counting down n giga starsurges

[lofty depot]

https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet
or use oibalance because its better

[royal zenith]

after doing nm/hc splits

[lofty depot]

so it no longer goes over?

[royal zenith]

I can say for certain

with full confidence

that balance druid is ultra shit

[meager storm]

it does go over

[calm wave]

tyty ❤️

[meager storm]

at the start it didnt

they changed it to go over

[drifting nova]

I beg, stop putting flying into raid fights

blizzzzard

[lofty depot]

araz is the stellar drift fight

where it at

[ashen pendant]

hey guys, dumb question time.
if a raid boss spawns a few adds and they live like 5-6sec (like on Soulbinder when ppl break the cages), should I even bother pressing starfall? or is it better to do st rotation in such cases?

[lofty depot]

uhhh normal generlly no

[outer oasis]

IMO I just sunfire them then press 1 starfall then keep st

[lofty depot]

r1 on soulbinder

(played ec)

[royal zenith]

insane damage

[scarlet tapir]

im more worried about unholy dk imma be honest

[indigo barn]

is this the price we pay for 30 mil surge crits?

[royal zenith]

hhahaahahahhaha

[lofty depot]

beating feral

hmm

[digital berry]

do you think part of that is because balance is perceived as shit so there are fewer good balance players with 4p or smth

[royal zenith]

it's mythic

these are not 'bad' players

[dapper wing]

Uh

That's false

[indigo barn]

its floor pov

[digital berry]

oh

didn't realize it was mythic my bad

[indigo barn]

but average balance will not play around 4p correctly

[royal zenith]

there's no point in being perceived as good when you're clearing bosses 3/4 weeks in

[lofty depot]

welllllllllllllll

i meannnnnnnnnnnnn

they could be not optimal

[royal zenith]

they still cleared more mythic bosses than 99.9% of this entire community

[lofty depot]

carried by guild

[royal zenith]

also it's 'bad'

I'm not saying they're good

there's always things to optimize, but the point is that the damage is already done

[lofty depot]

also like boomkin looks good on some fights

but those kill times are largely good for boomkin

[royal zenith]

if you have to depend on killtimers

[lucid olive]

dont play moonkin amen

[royal zenith]

then I dunno

[lucid olive]

you should look at logs and take the total damage of the raid and calculate the value that MOTW gave!!!

moonkin TURBO broken

[dapper wing]

True

But also

Value the damage taken too

Even more broken

[lofty depot]

yea go ahead and augment that to my damage

thanks

[dapper wing]

Give you healing for the damage reduced

We're broken

[glacial acorn]

Uh did I mess something up?https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mR6BTWPAR4MfaL7qow7LgU

[lucid olive]

use top gear

[glacial acorn]

How is it a dps loss vs mug'z

[lofty depot]

cuz mugz is good

[lucid olive]

parapodia not very good

and mugzee very good

[dapper wing]

^

Antenna was the only passive that beat mugjug for me

[lucid olive]

also use this box on top gear to add items

gear compare is outdated

[lofty depot]

also change that

[glacial acorn]

Gotcha, thank you

[indigo barn]

when you get 4p on use trinkets will sim way better

2p/2p i was running mugzee and s2 candle

[lofty depot]

tell that to my araz sim that is a 150k inc

[junior thicket]

what do i sim for m+? dungeon slice doesnt work for me

[lofty depot]

it doesnt work for everyone

but we use 1t5m for everything because mdt is imperfect

[dusty quest]

is goods works for a weakaura for the 4p?

[junior thicket]

okay so patchwerk 1 boss 5 min

ty

[lofty depot]

can u try that again

[dusty quest]

is it a good idea to have a weak aura for 4 pieces for the stacks=?

[lofty depot]

uh maybe to make sure u use them correctly

but thats just knowing what u pressed

https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet

[dusty quest]

oh thanks ❤️

[lofty depot]

u can use that or use the correct pack known as OiBalance

[maiden pasture]

bro i hate this dogshit spec

why doesnt it work man

[rotund acorn]

noob question here: so for m+ normally when tank gathers you moonfire, then onces its stacked, sunfire then rotation. If the tank gathers a ton of mobs, like in the strart of gambit and you cant moonfire everything before stacking, is it better to just not do it once gatherd? I ask because i was doing some dps dummy work, and it seems like the damage lost from starfire is too great to waste global on moonfire once gathered, but i could be completly wrong so curious what people think.

[dapper wing]

Moonfire

Everything

There is a prio in the compendium for target counts and how long they live

[rotund acorn]

ahh ok ty, i will take a look

[lofty depot]

well u dont press incarn until uve dotted everything

so if ur incarning and spamming moonfire ur doing it wrong

[dapper wing]

Yeah

Incarn after everything is dotted

[rotund acorn]

naw i dont do that,

[drifting nova]

the streets miniboss skip near the end is dumb

[rotund acorn]

just been a few times where, either moonfirng early got me threat, which forced me to run. but waiting when there are 30+ mobs being gathered also seems like a waste of time.

[wild marten]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bd6cdRW3E7WS9oUibLmjc6 should i craft dusk belt or stay with disk?

[pseudo merlin]

our tank is invisible to the boss

and the boss is invisible to our tank

[lucid olive]

There is currently a bug with the Keeper of the Grove 4-set bonus where you don't get the Dryad's Favor buff after the Dryad dies. The only boss it is confirmed to be bugged on currently is Plexus Sentinel, but it could also be bugged elsewhere. It is most likely a bug caused by the 4-set not counting the damage done to absorbs or shields towards the pool, probably caused by whatever Blizzard did during PTR when they fixed healing and overhealing contributing towards the pool.

[lucid olive]

<@&114146878353833984> pin

[drifting nova]

buff is losed

[wicked shuttle]

Owned

[lucid olive]

@maiden pasture look at this nerd losing out on 6 buffed starsurges

[maiden pasture]

😭

[digital berry]

LMAO

[maiden pasture]

shut down the fkn serer NOW

[digital berry]

i want a refund

[meager storm]

wait

i think when u dmg the shield

[drifting nova]

on a scale how playable is ec in raid

[meager storm]

its not accumulating dmg

[nova ocean]

Kek

[meager storm]

both of those ca windows he lost surges on was during the shield

[nova ocean]

So don't CD shield got it

[royal zenith]

could be a thing ye

[meager storm]

@lucid olive

[drifting nova]

mechanics are dps loss

[round field]

Ec boss

[royal zenith]

give it the Spriest treatment

more damage on shields

thoughts... ?

[meager storm]

yeah its the shield

great game

[maiden pasture]

😭

[lucid olive]

its unrelated

someone else earlier had it happen outside of the shield p sure

[meager storm]

very sus that only the buff was not granted during the shield

[flat summit]

sim is telling me to go haste on everything, top guys are stacking mastery

[maiden pasture]

trust ur sim

[meager storm]

ask them for a log

[lucid olive]

scroll up

the newest theory is that it's related to the achievement for the boss

the little mice NPCs that walk around

[indigo barn]

Wtf

[lucid olive]

great design honestly

[indigo barn]

Spagghetti

[lucid olive]

the code got hit by Dimensius mechanic

spaghettified

[meager storm]

i scrolled up where is it

[lucid olive]

idk

[meager storm]

alright

[maiden pasture]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nZfrqmgd4YXxPtvN?fight=25&type=auras&source=4&ability=1236807

is it this one

cuase this one he siad

in intermissions

[lucid olive]

maybe its related to the intermission, but doubt it's strictly because of the shield

at least should get fixed

report bug in game, make noise, hope for fix

[maiden pasture]

now someone calculate how much damage i lost

[lucid olive]

infinity damage

[meager storm]

that other log also lost buff during shield

idk

susge

[normal pilot]

rip are we shutting down #balance until fixed

[pallid bay]

that'd be funny

damage against shield not counted

so they dont lose buff

they just do 0 damage

[pallid bay]

so no buff to apply

[maiden pasture]

they do dam or

[pallid bay]

not according to tierset

[pallid bay]

i wont be looking at if that checks out at all though

enjoy your silly lil spec

[meager storm]

i could do a normal and test

[lofty depot]

or lfr ye

[meager storm]

nvm doing hm taza

ggs someone else do it

[normal pilot]

oh that's prolly it

unlucky dev copy pasted the wrong snippet and it doesn't count shield damage

[dapper wing]

Don't even buff kotg tier set

Just rework it

[lucid olive]

uuuh is there somewhere with a shield you can consistently test that

[dapper wing]

Uh

[normal pilot]

maybe pvp

[dapper wing]

Get a priest friend

Musician boss in streets?

If you want to kill a key lol for testing

[maiden pasture]

taza streets instrument boss

[lucid olive]

yeah i'm not running into there to test that

but can surely look at logs

[scarlet tapir]

@lucid olive shut the balance channel down

[dapper wing]

True

[drifting nova]

can dimensius be made outdoors

[pallid bay]

Just have a priest pws

U only need to do 1 damage

[normal pilot]

ya just pop CA and let the dryad starfall

[junior stirrup]

Is there any reaosn to delay using the Araz Ritual Forge trinket so you have more int during dryads favor or just send with 1st CA on pull? 🙂

[maiden pasture]

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/kUYxRrvQksMu_c1Eu?invite=cr-MSxNekksMTc3MTcyOTQw&v=12

ye

doesnt give dryads favour on shields

[dapper wing]

That's so fucked

[drifting nova]

whys that dryad on 2 legs?

looks so weird

[lofty depot]

blud why did u end the clip as the dryad dies

[maiden pasture]

?

u get the buff insta

dnd i didnt get it

[lofty depot]

god i hate medal

u cant pause and move the fucking timer

ye

[digital berry]

what even is the solution to this problem lmao

[maiden pasture]

ill clip with longer duration ig

[lofty depot]

its fine

[maiden pasture]

the devs fix the game

[lofty depot]

me submit bugreport

[normal pilot]

time to shut it down

[digital berry]

well until that happens

do we just not use cds on shields?

[normal pilot]

pretty much

[maiden pasture]

yeah

which is

grief for first boss'

[dapper wing]

Yeah

[maiden pasture]

🙂

[dapper wing]

We just take the L or save cds

[maiden pasture]

f

wrong one

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/kUYBJ0XSEaMW3bASQ?invite=cr-MSx2WncsMTc3MTcyOTQw&v=13

there

[digital berry]

god this is so fucked

[normal pilot]

eh not really this happens fairly often

[lofty depot]

i mean 2nd shield ends at like 430

[maiden pasture]

aug log hooks but for our entire 4pc

[lofty depot]

just save it

[meager storm]

surely fixed before nexus king prog

[maiden pasture]

😭

[meager storm]

mf got a 50% hp shield

[maiden pasture]

ye but the only relevant damage

[lofty depot]

3rd shield is 630

[maiden pasture]

is the shield dam

[lofty depot]

yea "we should hold damage, but i wont be"

[livid jay]

guys i just have experienced extreme ear torture in raid on last boss on normal

[dapper wing]

Congrats?

Unfortunate?

[drifting nova]

ddr is hard ok

[livid jay]

wait im gonna send a clip

[drifting nova]

I'm pugging now and it's..something

[livid jay]

https://warcraftrecorder.com/link/6636fb9f-31a1-498d-937c-3037711e3894

go to 1:50

the whole raid's ears got r*ped by the northern sky weakaura

@scarlet ocean

[lucid olive]

hell yeah

i love that the weakaura for the mechanic keeps playing even if you phased

[livid jay]

actually i think its bigwigs even

[scarlet ocean]

we don't talk about okay

[livid jay]

bro my ears still hurt

[scarlet ocean]

it's cause the wa know otherwise we wouldn't pay attention to the mechanics

[ionic oak]

someone should drop some bars to that beat

[drifting nova]

if I had a penny for every "damage is too low" i'd be rich

and theyd still be dead to a mechanic

[gleaming compass]

hello are we changing anything in our rotation in mm+ AOE with the new 4P ?

[digital berry]

no

[obsidian jetty]

can you do it again with a warlock pet out

[maiden pasture]

with pet out i got like

[obsidian jetty]

target, warlock with shield, but dot the pet/dryad starfall will cleave pet

[maiden pasture]

1.5k dmage atriubuted

but clip gone now

[obsidian jetty]

yea, so the cleave counts fine

[maiden pasture]

ye

[digital berry]

Embellishments so bad a 701 random crit haste pair of gloves is better then 1/2 duskthread

[maiden pasture]

yes

they have been all xpac

[grim crest]

hey! Is there a weakaura to track the new boomy tier set?

[maiden pasture]

https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet

for just the tierset

or just OiBalance for an overall pack that includes the above

[grim crest]

awesome, ty!

[worthy pond]

Is EC playable at all in raid or is that just trolling

[meager storm]

its playable

[delicate perch]

You’re already trolling playing boomkin

[dry compass]

its certainly playable but unless you're a mechanical and movement god you're gonna be handicapping yourself pretty hard

[worthy pond]

I have a smooth brain and haven't raided on boomie since s1, just keys. so I'm going to get whiplash from actually interacting with the eclipse system again lmao

[lofty depot]

r1 on soulbinder

big

[sudden flame]

not anymore big dog

[livid jay]

You're not interacting with it more or less on any of the two in raid

On one you press two wrath to go lunar on other you press two Starfire to go solar

Same shit

Just can't accidently fck it on EC

[lofty depot]

what a cool spec

[digital berry]

Kotg is definitely more difficult to play, not difficult, but more difficult ikr, compared to ec

[livid jay]

Yee

But more cause u gotta sync multiple CDs and not cause of eclipses

[digital berry]

Yeah, ec literally uses everything on cd without a single thought

[livid jay]

Plus if you are bad at caster (not always casting etc) EC might actually be worse

Gg

[meager storm]

its ok buffs after rwf

15x and aura buff we are so back

[livid jay]

Shut the discord down

[lucid olive]

10% aura buff and 25x cap

[digital berry]

I love how our 2p ec has to have a “gain asp” restriction otherwise it’d probably be a dps gain to stay capped in aoe

[potent cargo]

have you tried playing better

[lofty depot]

crazy

[digital berry]

If they raise cap we will have to do some cringe shit to reach it

[lucid olive]

nah

the cap shouldn't be reachable

having a reachable cap on an effect like that is braindead

[lofty depot]

until u see my aoe dam

and i slam a boss with all my funnel

[lucid olive]

yeah good

the cap should be there to stop stuff like using old world scaling and zoning into raid with a stacked buff

[lofty depot]

also cant remove starfall, gonna add stellar drift soon

[lucid olive]

having the cap be reachable is incredibly stupid design

[meager storm]

does the raid buff also increase the amped surges?

like is it done later on the calculation?

[lucid olive]

since the cap is based on your intellect i wanna say no

but i guess it'll buff the damage it does but the cap will stay the same

[meager storm]

oh no yeah not the cap

[lucid olive]

and you'll have an easier time reaching it with the raid buff

[meager storm]

just wanted to know if the calculation will include that buff

make it 15x 2% thoughts

[lucid olive]

25x 2%

[meager storm]

i mean i would love that but we know that aint happening

15x is more realistic

[lucid olive]

unfortunate

[digital berry]

We will get a 5% aura buff and that’s all we’ll see until .5 and yall know it

[lucid olive]

i've come to realize that anything you think is a realistic good decision is the opposite of what blizzard is thinking

[meager storm]

indeed

[pseudo merlin]

you think blizzard is thinking?

[primal oriole]

how do i get the none capped crests quest?

[lucid olive]

the devs put in charge of this have 0 clue and post staircase picture kicking moonkins down

[lucid olive]

do an 11 delve

[dapper wing]

Do we know if the cap is calculated with the amount of intellect we have as you press the button or how much int you have as the dryad fades?

It's when it's pressed right?

[lucid olive]

dryad fades

when buff is applied

[digital berry]

So ai affects it right

[lucid olive]

chat gpt?

[digital berry]

Arcane

[timid gorge]

arcane int

[lucid olive]

yes

[tiny tendon]

trying to get used to 4pc zzz

[vital hound]

incorrect

boomkin op

[delicate perch]

true (I count them as a healer so they kinda blast)

[vital hound]

natures vigil baby

just follow my soulbinder strat

save cds for first intermission

blast phaseblade

die

get rezzed for last one

kill boss

[delicate perch]

[delicate perch]

my strat here is paywalled (I was also paywalled by a line I wild charged into)

[vital hound]

700k is INSANE

[delicate perch]

I think it was legit the first line

[rocky ridge]

Is the S2 2 Piece Set this strong? Or is raidbot simming this set wrong? if i would replace my 2 set bonus with heroic gear, it says, i would loose like 400k dps in multitarget?

[delicate perch]

not a 0% though.. who died earlier

[quiet drift]

sets are good

Shrooms are extra good in aoe

[vital hound]

i balled man

just the others are padders

[rocky ridge]

So just wait for 4 Piece before replace old 2 set?

[simple mango]

what's the best spec for balance druid using one button mode?

don't flame me, I have zero time to prepare and we're over full on healers

[normal pilot]

both specs lose similarly, so depends if you have a good agi weapon or not

[simple mango]

i meant kotg or elune's chosen

i have good haste/mastery and decent weapons from my resto set

i also have 4p if it matters

[normal pilot]

prolly ec then

[vital hound]

get hekili

[normal pilot]

and prolly grab a spare agi weapon when you can for the next time you have to dps on emergency so you can feral

[leaden birch]

so, EC for cleave in raid?

[lucid olive]

For Soul Hunters at least

[simple mango]

if I had 30 more minutes I'd set up my action bars with hekili

[rocky ridge]

Do we need to play around S3 4piece in M+? So just use Fury of Elune with 3 Stacks?

[lucid olive]

No just use FoE off cd

The only change is if you move to a new pack and have stacks of the buff that will expire before you finish spreading dots and entering Eclipse you just FoE before it expires

[merry ibex]

You know boomy tier sucks ass when they aren't even being brought to a council fight

[craggy sonnet]

its just wl being too damn strong

we arent bad on that fight

[lucid olive]

3 mages

[leaden birch]

is there a written opener in dreamgrove

[pale swan]

fire mages are big oof

[leaden birch]

my brain is just not getting kotg with the new 4p

whats our CA usage look like now? do we hold CA until we have 2 charges ready to go again alongside convoke?

just trees while waiting for 2xCA + convoke to come back?

[pale swan]

you have to get used to it,my brain just uses 2nd ca after my delayed treants sometimes,i want to smash something ngl 😄

[lofty depot]

did u look or

[lofty depot]

no u use 3rd ca on 2m

and then the rest of it is based on kill time

if kill time is 5m, u send a double at 420

[proven grove]

anyone got the macro that lets u keep force of nature and warrior of elune on the same button

or is there even a macro like that

[maiden pasture]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:205636,@cursor] Force of Nature;
/cast [known:202425] Warrior of Elune;

@proven grove

[proven grove]

appreciate that '

[devout hazel]

do you gamers have any recommendations for an alt, i just want everythign to be like boomkin B)

[proven grove]

sp

[delicate perch]

like boomkin in what way

[maiden pasture]

a second boomie

[delicate perch]

if you want similar damage play a tank

[digital berry]

Elly shaman is hella fun

[devout hazel]

LMAO I LOVE THIS

[delicate perch]

like boomkin

fun

[proven grove]

or warlock

[delicate perch]

?

pick one

[digital berry]

Warlock is eww

[leaden birch]

ty

[leaden birch]

ty

[stuck meadow]

anyone know anything about

denizen not working

my tier set was working on pull and didnt work for the rest of the first boss mythic

oh i just saw the bug section

[lofty depot]

denizen and dryad arent the same thing

[stuck meadow]

yea i meant dryad

my bad

[digital berry]

Yeah gotta hold until shields are down

Or like almost done I guess

[maiden pasture]

i think u just

FF ur log

[stuck meadow]

i mean

[maiden pasture]

if ur sending CDs on anything but shield ur raid will suffer for it

[stuck meadow]

i need to burst shield

[maiden pasture]

yeah

[stuck meadow]

since its first week

[maiden pasture]

i sent on shield, it is horrible for log and puts you even lower on damage

[stuck meadow]

and we are doing like half mains raid

yea

[maiden pasture]

but its the correct play for prog

[digital berry]

Isn’t the dryad surge buff like a gigantic chunk of our dps

[stuck meadow]

it is

lol

[maiden pasture]

yes but the boss enrage isnt a real thing

its a similar argument to like rik last tier

sure some specs dont wanna target swap and its inefficient

but its also the only important damage

after first kill do you you want

if u send outside of shield on ur first kill ur a log fiend 👍

[digital berry]

I get what you mean but in this case you’re literally shooting urself in the foot to do a tiny lil bit more dmg

Like the spec isn’t working as intended

[meager storm]

[maiden pasture]

ur doing less damage but the correct thing for prog

[digital berry]

Its not about being a parse fiend

[maiden pasture]

ofc its a parse fiend

u want to kill the boss, the best way to do that is nuke the shield

you are actively choosing to make prog harder for ur own damage if you never pop on shield

what else is that but being a parse fiend

[digital berry]

Prog this week and prog next week are vastly different tho

[lofty depot]

technically if every boomkin does it

[digital berry]

Next week pretty much everyone will have 4p, a couple more ilvls, crafted weapons

[lofty depot]

no one is losing

ur just losing compared to other classes

[maiden pasture]

@digital berry

[digital berry]

Yeah ok but I haven’t killed it yet, and I doubt next week the shields are going to be some monumental effort to take down

I get what you’re saying tho and I will still probably send on shield unless it gets nuked

( which it won’t )

[dense steeple]

if i dont have 4pc next week before raid on tuesday im coming for you

[digital berry]

Bro if I don’t have it in vault I’m kms

[delicate perch]

imagine not having 4pc

[leaden birch]

[digital berry]

I couldn’t be there for the dimensius heroic kill on our extra day so I didn’t get any tier piece from raid

[leaden birch]

imagine having a life

[maiden pasture]

dw they fix us on reset surelyt

[lofty depot]

is shay a feral 👀

[maiden pasture]

yes

he is giga feral gamer

[digital berry]

Considering we found out the problem today I doubt it

[lofty depot]

massive

[dense steeple]

is that a 10 minute fight?

[vital hound]

its 9:33 soma

right there in the picture

[delicate perch]

americans

[fiery veldt]

does sumone have a raid kotg cleave setup? cause its not on the compendium for like araz

[vital hound]

americans try to read challenge. Difficulty = impossible

[vital hound]

go to wclogs and yoink someone's talents

[lucid olive]

Remove nature's balance and take Twin moons

[fiery veldt]

do i take the extend too for starfall?

[dense steeple]

this fuckin guy

[vital hound]

am i wrong

[dense steeple]

passed the half way mark = round up

[viral cliff]

I seem cooked. part of this this is like end of season 2 reroll and havent raided yet until tonight but fuck

[hollow mist]

good luck in raid ^_^

[viral cliff]

running 2pc 2pc but a lot of just best effort for gear otherwise lol

surely i'll be fine

[lofty depot]

2p2p is fine

[hardy cloak]

anyone got a good build for Forgeweaver?

[dense steeple]

i heard wcl does

[leaden birch]

i have no idea how to play cleave in raid now

i dunno why i've just completely forgotten kotg cleave

[lofty depot]

what is confusing u

[leaden birch]

honestly, I don't even know

i don't spread moonfire myself right

just send trees and let them do it

[lofty depot]

if u dont have trees and they live long enough

how else u gonna do it

[leaden birch]

ye if they live long enough is key right

i'm just ignoring the adds that get blown up

[inland copper]

im very confused at my sims it wants me to hard push versi every haste mastery piece isnt simming well for me does it have something to do with 2pc 2pc

[normal pilot]

somewhat, the kotg set is stupidly designed and has 0 haste scaling

[dense steeple]

do you think he'll read me? ||hes alliance im horde||

[lofty depot]

our stats do be changing

[vital hound]

vers is cool

[stuck quartz]

Do be feeling bad swapping gear sets for raid and M+ tho

[vital hound]

live more and do damage more

[inland copper]

im EC

[leaden birch]

my nameplates aren't changing colours when I'm dotting up adds on araz

[delicate perch]

link the sim

[inland copper]

after this dungeon

[delicate perch]

[inland copper]

this is my sim for dungeon https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/etRyeKqKJNj4KGZkmkLdcY
this is my sim for single target in m+ spec https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sVUvfjfyCVpkmMjDx8WKXN
it wants me to use the weapon for single

[delicate perch]

do you often fight 5 bosses for 1 minute

with lust pot and cds

[inland copper]

its for mythic plus

its just to see my burst

[delicate perch]

[inland copper]

whatever i asked for help and if ur just gonna try to find something wrong ill just do my own thing so thanks!

[delicate perch]

whatever i asked for help and if ur just gonna try to find something wrong ill just do my own thing so thanks!

@vital hound @teal sphinx

[inland copper]

very mature lmao

[delicate perch]

thank you

[craggy sonnet]

[delicate perch]

[craggy sonnet]

while that wasnt communicated very politely, what was trying to be conveyed is that the sim may give you stupid results because the scenario is super warped

it doesnt give you useful information to making realistic gearing decision

[vital hound]

whatever i asked for help and if ur just gonna try to find something wrong ill just do my own thing so thanks!

[delicate perch]

very mature lmao

[craggy sonnet]

bro is gonna yeet outta here, be gentle

[karmic root]

If im mid eclipse and Foe, incarn, and trinket just came up, do i wait for the current eclipse to end so i can get the dreamstates or just send all CDS?

[sick flame]

could anyone inform me of how to properly sim So'leah's Secret Technique for each of the stats

[craggy sonnet]

idk if you would hold FoE for anything more than a few seconds with new 4p. but dreamstate is kinda better now that it was before, so you should try n get them if possible

[rough sapphire]

are myth crafted boots better than heroic soul hunter boots for boomy?

[craggy sonnet]

click this

then look for the soleah option

[leaden birch]

who are y'all mainly targeting during hunters

[formal marsh]

Priests

And prayer Marina

[craggy sonnet]

then put whatever you wanna do from these in the custom simc options box

[sick flame]

ya im reading it now.. trying to figure it out

[craggy sonnet]

pretty sure they are not. but you can sim it

[craggy sonnet]

so like putting this in the custom options box or whatever stat
shadowlands.soleahs_secret_technique_type=haste

[sick flame]

yep think i got it. pretty sure this trinket sims the best for me of all the Passive m+ trinkets.

[viral cliff]

doing dimmensius and between the platforms and everything this raid kills FPS lol only 30 FPS

[lofty depot]

time to upgrade computer

[viral cliff]

mm is there a log review channel? or can I just post logs and ask that way. (for help) want to be better feel like im making simple mistakes

[normal pilot]

just post away

[viral cliff]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/spirestone/druidless any input helps

[worthy oak]

Guys, what trinkets have you been using, any tips?

[dapper wing]

Living Flame + Antenna.

[digital berry]

Have you taken a look at the compendium in sims ?

[dapper wing]

But bis is Araz + antenna

[digital berry]

Araz + jug

Can’t drop any heroic lvl trinkets that rival jug

[dapper wing]

Farmable ones are Signet and Parapodia

@worthy oak

[worthy oak]

Tks ❤️

I've been using these two, but I dropped Lily of the Eternal Weave, I don't know if it's worth trading the house of cards

[viral cliff]

kind of? been juggling just a lot so havent had too much time.

[digital berry]

Might be also worth looking at lorrgs to see how people use their cds

[viral cliff]

havent played since this spec since BFA, and I feel so rusty

and that was like uldir prog lol

[digital berry]

I look a Quick Look at your opener and you’re doing some things very wrong

Your ca and tree usage is a bit haphazard

[viral cliff]

while im waiting before heroic starts here

what is your input

[digital berry]

You don’t have the new set so you don’t have to chain or double ca

[viral cliff]

oh is that only 4pc I do that?

[digital berry]

Yeah season 3 4pc

Even with 2p2p you don’t do that

You just want to follow this rough order : ca trees convoke, ca trees, trees, ca trees convoke, trees, trees, ca trees convoke

After that you send trees on cd and don’t ever use ca without convoke

[viral cliff]

AH.

[digital berry]

And don’t ever use ca or convoke without trees

Remember you can wait for up to 15 seconds without losing cooldown because of the control of the dream hero talent

[viral cliff]

opener is still pre cast 2x wrath dots into CA then (what you basically spelled out?)

[digital berry]

Ehh

[viral cliff]

[digital berry]

Precast 2x wrath, start starfire cast, once it’s pulled you dot, trees, ca with surge, go below 40 asp spamming surges if you have the asp, convoke, spend asp

[upper anvil]

What's the reasoning for starfish 3rd cast?

[digital berry]

Free dmg

[upper anvil]

Over a 3rd wrath.

?*

[digital berry]

It will end the cast once the boss is pulled giving you a higher chance of a free spender

[upper anvil]

Ic

[digital berry]

Wrath is 10% starfire is like 25% if I remember correctly

[viral cliff]

cursed plexus just died to res a tank

but yeah need to work on a lot

[digital berry]

Unfortunately once you get new 4p things get harder

[harsh herald]

It's so hard to break that muscle memory. Dropping trees after 2 globals still feels so weird

[digital berry]

Wouldn’t know anything about it, o don’t have 4p yet

[delicate perch]

[digital berry]

Dwilkz finished the deathless hard mode

Damn

[lofty depot]

i died to soak cuz my tank didnt want to 4 soak it

so i did soak and got sucked into star and couldnt get out of it

[dapper wing]

My mage was too tired and died to teleporter boss

I cried a bit on the inside

When they can cheese that

[digital berry]

Oof i still haven’t attempted it or killed anything in there

[dapper wing]

It's not that bad tbh

[digital berry]

Not very pig friendly

[dapper wing]

Take your time, lust every single boss

[digital berry]

Yeah i don’t have 2 hours of random free time uninterrupted

[drifting nova]

is it active in keys aswell

or only 0

[lofty depot]

everyone saying pirate dragon hard, i didnt think it was hard

[digital berry]

Once you start a key you can’t loose the buff

[lofty depot]

i just killed adds

[drifting nova]

so..thats a no?

[digital berry]

It’s only for hard mode, you have to kill all bosses inside. Now i don’t know if you can swap people in and out

[dapper wing]

TBH, the dragon strat of go along the wall is fucked, just go along the beach

so much easier

You can't swap

you immediately brick deathless if someone leaves the instance

[drifting nova]

I already hate the miniboss skip in streets

delete the dungeon

get to it blizzard

[digital berry]

Streets sucks and dawn is a bugged mess

On the ship at the start a whole pack of mobs got flung off

[drifting nova]

I was told by like 10 people back is s1

[digital berry]

And the boss didn’t spawn

[drifting nova]

dawn wasnt buggy

[dapper wing]

Dawn is a buggy mess

holy fuck

[digital berry]

Until they finally snapped back

[dapper wing]

That dungeon needs to be removed

genuinely

[drifting nova]

still remember landing on a roof from flying with the group

and we all dced

[dapper wing]

I can't wait for the ship NOT to spawn during MDI

[drifting nova]

[tulip snow]

I had a run yesterday where the boat took off and we didn't get the flying buff so we had to step out, then after the final boss we all died to the boat bug

[drifting nova]

flying in general is still omega bugged like it was in df

anything that uses it, bosses, dungeons is already on my shitlist

p2 dimensius, get the buff, mount up, insta dc

[tulip snow]

I think one of the mobs that get despawned was aggro'd cause it spawned back when we entered the instance again

[digital berry]

Yeah mythic dimensius is going to be so annoying

[drifting nova]

sounds like a not me problem

[drifting nova]

that fractillus wa is busted holy

[livid jay]

not me, was from a screenshot two messages above

[livid jay]

what wa?

[drifting nova]

for wall drops

[indigo barn]

This wa is in the liquid pack but they only release for free after rwf. Now its on patreon

Not that you need it for hc fractillus

But its nice

[drifting nova]

hc? thinking normal

boss is kinda booty

swear it's easier to converge when safe

instead of spread

[livid jay]

just have one safespot, one tankspot and put walls everywhere else

honestly not that hard that way

no need for assigns

on normal at least

[lucid fog]

hi guys, exist a nice talent-build for single-target with "Elunes Choosen" ? 🙂

[ocean palm]

For m+ elune, should i only sim ST + elune for m+

[dapper wing]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium

[dire osprey]

Yea lol just sit afk until flashy thing pops up telling u where to move

Boss does nothing else

[cloud plover]

love fractillus wa

[drifting nova]

sure and thats the goto, but people are dumbge, so the safe area isnt safe

but starting spreading and moving when not targeted seems easier

[cloud plover]

we use it for our runs and it's just like
afk 95% of fight what is this boss

surely they designed this boss knowing people would make WeakAuras for it and then they go "look this is why WeakAuras have to be removed*

[drifting nova]

idk both abilities without prior knowledge

look virtually the same

then again dimensius is purple on purple

so what are colours

[nocturne hearth]

hello everyone

good morning and evening

what best talent for Balance druid for M+ ?

also what best talent for raids ?

[dapper wing]

Look at the compendium

It's pinned

@nocturne hearth

[nocturne hearth]

@dapper wing and what about rotation ?

is 1 button rotation good or not good ?

[dapper wing]

Also there

Its

Fine

You will be able to time up to 10s

With gear

[sand isle]

Hey guys was wondering about Balance Druid in raid. On ST I am fine with DPS but I notice on cleave I fall behind. I.E Soulbinder and Forgeweaver. Should I just make sure I am in Lunar eclispe as much as possible or should I keep CE charges for when adds drop?

[nocturne hearth]

@dapper wing im 2.2k rio and my ilvl is 687 and i only use 1 button rotation

but i didnt get 4 set until now

[iron chasm]

1 button is definitely not recommended outside of just learning the rotation

[dapper wing]

Yeah

Boomkin rotation is not hard

[nocturne hearth]

can you tell me the best rotation ?

for M+ i use elunes right ?

[dapper wing]

Dot everything, don't overcap astral

That's kinda it

[nocturne hearth]

i dot everything

also i use my cd's

starfall and starfire

that all i do

[dapper wing]

The compendium shows you openers and priority for rotation

Take 30 minutes to read it over

Enjoy

[nocturne hearth]

thank you bro

❤️

[young ermine]

Hey, what's up? Is anyone else doing 12+? I wanted to ask how you're building it or what talents you're using. I'm at 11 with all of them, and I feel like I'm missing a lot of damage for a 12. I have the complete tier 4 parts. I wanted to find some information or a video or streamer to refer to.

[dapper wing]

Dwilkz I'd a good streamer

[solar arch]

dwilkz is the man to watch on twitch, usually replies to chat questions as well, helpful guy

[dapper wing]

But last seasons ec build is best

It's in the compendium

Krona is also good if he's not raiding

But he's with echo doing rwf atm

[young ermine]

Thank you very much. I felt that the damage I purchased with a sacer was very low, barely reaching 3.8 across the entire stone 12.

[austere sparrow]

Hey guys, im a bit late this season. Are we really that undertuned as everyone in YouTube etc. is saying?

[jaunty blaze]

Its not very great

Boomie just lacks any identity in raid

For m+ its mostly fine but there is better

[young ermine]

I'm looking at the one they told me about, and it uses raid talents in Mythic Plus. Is that how they're playing now?

[dapper wing]

M+ EC

If your looking at Dwilkz talents he probably just logged out after simming something or raiding

[sharp zenith]

does anyone kinda hate the new opener

this doesn't even work for me in raid, i don't have the AP to cast two starsurges

and can't find the whole opener list for a second, but if we use incarn back to back on the opener, we have to use sunfire in it right?

[tulip snow]

seeing that trees are casted after CA, this implies that you have 4 piece

but also I'm guessing here is that you could have the talent that gives you like 50 AP out of combat
or
(I'm not sure how much 2x wrath + starfire + sunfire + moonfire gives on an opener)

I would assume if you don't have 4pc that you just do last season's opener for KOTG

[sharp zenith]

i do have 4p

whats the talent called?

[tulip snow]

do you have

[sharp zenith]

yeah gg to me

i guess i copied over the old talents somewhere then lmao

thanks

[tulip snow]

that talent is generally swapped out for this on fights where you need to dot up more adds

[sharp zenith]

yeah that explains actually, it was mostly a problem on nexus king for me, i do have natures balance on the st build

so we need to do a different opener then for the cleave KOTG bosses

[tulip snow]

I think you can delay or do the "no cooldowns on pull" option (in the dreamgrove site)

[pallid bay]

you pref want those surges so you could just wrath a little more before CA

[tulip snow]

honestly we one shot nexus on normal, I don't even remember the fight

[pallid bay]

need 72 or w/e it is

[sharp zenith]

gotcha, ty

[sharp zenith]

it was hc 😎

[tulip snow]

my man

[sharp zenith]

i died on the kill 😎

[pallid bay]

and rest of CAs you should just pool beforehand

[sharp zenith]

ye that makes sense

[tulip snow]

rewrite the guide

[lyric thicket]

My SIM POV