balance

[drifting nova]

always had a fish cake/or sausage instead, closest I get to fish is fish fingers

[pseudo merlin]

Fish don't have fingers

[drifting nova]

it's also not fish

[lucid olive]

Fish fingers like Doctor Who?

[drifting nova]

sometimes anyway

or as the americans call them, fish sticks

boring as ever

[pseudo merlin]

I heard Kanye loves fish sticks

[lucid olive]

Are you calling Kanye a gay fish

[pseudo merlin]

Nah I'm just saying he loves putting fish sticks in his mouth

[drifting nova]

making the ...fish? gay

[pseudo merlin]

damn

riot is the gift that keeps on giving

[digital berry]

what do you reckon is the easiest key this season? Gambit is probably my pick if i were to choose one

[pseudo merlin]

dome

[digital berry]

ohh also true

[lofty depot]

u get a myth item

[pseudo merlin]

more not reading

[torpid skiff]

Wasn’t that for deathless ?

[pseudo merlin]

The Arctic special

[lofty depot]

imagine saying not deathless

🔫

[torpid skiff]

I didn’t have time to prep on ptr or have 4 other friends that I’m even 10% confident won’t die instantly

So why even bother

[pseudo merlin]

Is it very different from the first time we had TV HM?

[torpid skiff]

First time around our friend group cleared it with like 60 deaths

[pseudo merlin]

IS there a timer?

[torpid skiff]

Not everyone is an S tier gamer okay 😖

[torpid skiff]

No

[pseudo merlin]

So you can just lust every pack

and stack mages or paladins or something

[torpid skiff]

Only mage anyone plays among us is me on fire and that seems to not be doing so hot currently 😐

[pseudo merlin]

I like the idea though

I'd love to try it if I had a group

[torpid skiff]

Also a thing I noticed is balance seems to be one of the best specs to play with high ping

Everything else I tried felt off but balance is whatever. Probably can throw in like 100 more ping , the only thing feeling off will be form switching

[pseudo merlin]

how high are you at

[torpid skiff]

Like 190-ish

[pseudo merlin]

oh that's not the worst

thats below EU beta ping

[torpid skiff]

Have to use a meme “gaming traffic router” though so not sure if that ping is accurate

Without one it routs via US and its 380

[pseudo merlin]

ouch

[torpid skiff]

Yeah but fire mage procs appear way too late
Or like rogue combo points are noticeably laggy so you end up pressing a builder on full cp

[pseudo merlin]

I played a lot of fire in keys on last beta, wasn't too bad imo

[torpid skiff]

With balance you can play with your eyes closed There’s nothing to react to really

My eyes-to-brain and brain-to-hands ping is like 500 though so every little bit helps

[raven gorge]

how big is the difference between ec and kotg in m+?

[lofty depot]

depends on the key

kotg does piss outside of cds

[raven gorge]

ah dang

[digital berry]

ec is hella fun

in keys

compared to kotg

[pseudo merlin]

yeah

EC is great

[digital berry]

also super simple

[pseudo merlin]

EC is back to boomie vanilla roots

just spam starfire

[dusk spear]

Anyone else feel like KOTG is clunky on dimensius? treants in p2 seem to go wild

[lofty depot]

what part of treants in p2 is clunky

[dusk spear]

they seem to not focus the specific "mob-in-the-wall", convoke just doesn't focus attacks properly

[lofty depot]

in that situation u dont care what ur trees are doing

ur using them for the buff

convoke sends wraths randomly, but surges get sent at target

and ur cds should be up when u land on platform

so send them faster idk

[dusk spear]

i guess my main problem is that for the last 15 years i've played boomkin, it's played more like elune than KOTG, and i just need to convince myself i like that playstyle better and it's ok to do less dps

[lofty depot]

i think u think trees are supposed to do soemthing more than what we use them for

[pseudo merlin]

KOTG doesn't turn boomie into a pet spec

[dusk spear]

ok, then my next problem is i hate the circle, so i gotta figure out a macro to just place the treants by hitting "G" and not need to click on the ground

[pseudo merlin]

Macro [@cursor] into every skill with a targetting reticle

[lofty depot]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:205636,@cursor] Force of Nature;
/cast [known:202425] Warrior of Elune;

very shrimple

all u had to do was ask

[pseudo merlin]

playing with reticles is trolling unless you need to be hyper precise or are still learning

[digital berry]

is it like bad to spend runed crests this week?

[pseudo merlin]

unless you get some insane HC item I probably wouldnt

[digital berry]

i got heroic araz

[pseudo merlin]

id spend on that

[digital berry]

tempted to just 6/6 it

[meager storm]

send all the 701 pieces u get to 704

[pseudo merlin]

really hope your guild isnt going to also give you the mythic araz

so you probably have a good while before you get that

[digital berry]

i guess no need to spend now anyway

no more prog / raids this week

just a bunch of keys

[pseudo merlin]

but like assuming you farmed max hc ilv from m+ we are done with runed crests next reset right

[shy void]

did something change from last season

[pseudo merlin]

just gotta use em wisely like said

[shy void]

kotg 4 set is not the most easy thing to play...

i think a lotta raid moonkins are gonna like

not play moonkin this season

tough initial bump with the set bonus + not good

[cursive mirage]

the difficulty of the tier set is definitely why

[shy void]

after a few hundred reps of the dryad kotg opener it'll be kinda simple but until then...

[lofty depot]

if ur not splitting and got hero araz the last thing ur liekly getting is mythic araz first lol

[pseudo merlin]

yeah ik

youre gonne vault it or wait for dinaros

[lofty depot]

yee

[pseudo merlin]

atleast all the good loot is from early bosses

banger decision

[lofty depot]

kinda weird to dinar a #4 boss

but idk what other items we dinar

kris is the only late item

ig saladbar neck / waist

but likeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[meager storm]

we couldnt dinar necks or rings

last time

[pseudo merlin]

^

[lofty depot]

o

[meager storm]

only the "rare items" or whatever

[lofty depot]

yea forgot

jastor :/

[meager storm]

but since there are none

[lofty depot]

so yea its just kris, antenna, araz

[digital berry]

Idk man o have received a total of 0 tier pieces from raid this week

I had champ track chest in vault and I Cata’d hero track pants

So like i am still wearing a ton of low ilvl shit

Just gonna grind some droptimizer dungeons for the rest of the week

Im done with my 10s so 8s it is

Dick and tired of waiting 15 minutes to get into a 10

[pseudo merlin]

only 15?

I give up after 90 invites

90 applications*

[errant flint]

Idk if anyone can explain. Was checking top logs for certain fights. Saw some druid NOT use trees with convoke - any reason they might do that. This was like a 99 parse player for that fight.

[lofty depot]

2p2p slams in keys

[lofty depot]

show log

(generally tahts dumb)

[pseudo merlin]

yeah sometimes people do dumb shit, and when you're playing in week 1 logs are like 99.99% gear based

good rng is good rng

[errant flint]

Buh I have to re-find it

[digital berry]

The only reason you’d ever convoke without trees is if trees are not up, convoke is, and fight will not last until trees are up

[remote saffron]

Hey guys, how are you doing?
How are you managing to generate enough Astral Power to cast two Starsurges before summoning the trees?

just spamming wrath?

[errant flint]

I think judging by the time this was their 2nd convoke in the fight was over soon anyways.

So yea that makes sense

[digital berry]

The second convoke, if you fit third trees before it, will have you wait like 10 seconds for trees so they greeded probably

[lofty depot]

Natures balance

[digital berry]

Now did the fight end within 10 seconds of them convoking? Doubt it tbh

[remote saffron]

oh my bad i've copied an wrong build for st tho

[errant flint]

Im not good enough to know to be greedy yet.
The fight had at least 20-25s left after their 2nd convoke.

[digital berry]

It was most likely just a mistake and they were uber geared so they still 99d

[digital berry]

Well in this case the greed was a mistake

[errant flint]

Heroic btw if that changes anything but felt worth mentioning. It was a pure st no cleave fight. Maybe fractillus or mothman.

[digital berry]

Neither of those fights are 2 minutes fight tho

[errant flint]

2nd convoke would mean at least a 4min fight minimum or nah?

[digital berry]

Well

No that’s third

First is on pull

[errant flint]

Am dumb or convoke not 2nin?

[digital berry]

Yeah

0-2-4

Well technically the first one is 1:45

[errant flint]

Ah yea am dumb

It was an outlier from the other players casts I checked.

[digital berry]

Again, convoke should always be paired with ca and trees, unless either of those isn’t gonna come off cd before fight ends and convoke is up

Which only ever really happens with trees

[errant flint]

Wish trees would cast themselves

Stopped with H fractillus prog 2nd raid night so just browsing logs to understand things.

More H frac tomorrow

[vestal bone]

What log were you looking at?

[errant flint]

Oh one more: is the opener the same for Keeper in raid aoe as it is for Keeper raid st?

[digital berry]

There is no real raid aoe fight in which you play keeper

Not constant aoe

[errant flint]

Anyone in the top 20 on any boss.

[digital berry]

There’s some add fights but they are intermittent spawns

Im pretty sure most people play ec on soul hunters

[dapper wing]

Wanna post this because it's my first 100 parse, heroic soulbinder

Now ignore me and continue your good talks

[digital berry]

Also, if you have some logs you’d like to share and have people look at, feel free to send them. Tho I’m not sure if there’s many people on who do log reviews at this moment

[errant flint]

Why would we play Kotg on soulbinder H vs EC?

[dapper wing]

I played EC

[errant flint]

Is it bc intermittent adds?

In logs is 77% of players on H soulbinder playing KoTg

[dapper wing]

EC performed really well since it's heroic and add canisters were not going to be broken perfectly

farmed a shit ton of damage from all the adds coming in anmass

I'd assume KoTG is for coordinated groups of perfect breaking

[loud kettle]

Soulbinder adds evaporate

[errant flint]

They doooooo

[pseudo merlin]

cant even pad there 🙁

[errant flint]

Much annoy

[loud kettle]

Yea so you cant really play ec in those conditions ya?

[errant flint]

Cant or shouldnt?

[meager storm]

that boss will prob get deleted at some point from all stars

[loud kettle]

Semantics

[errant flint]

No I was joking but hard to tell

[pseudo merlin]

Well nothing is literally stopping you from speccing into EC

[errant flint]

Every spec has a degen way and an ethical way

[digital berry]

Ec in soulbinder is just shameless padding

[dapper wing]

EC is full degen for parsing on that boss

100%

Complete warcrimes

No ethics

[errant flint]

Gotta warcrime

[digital berry]

And you’re shooting urself in the foot most likely if your team is even remotely competent

[errant flint]

Watching my team sandbag their wowaudits

[meager storm]

its more about the group being bad and missing canisters than the spec itself

[errant flint]

So yea warcrimes it is

[dapper wing]

mhm, EC is only really for pugs that are gonna fail

I will shamelessly admit I FULL degened for that shit lol

Saving cd's specifically for it

[fiery veldt]

is the shutting down the compendium real?

[digital berry]

No

[dapper wing]

no

[errant flint]

I dont think degens get shamed here?

[dapper wing]

it legit says /s

(Sarcasm)

[digital berry]

Ehh

[fiery veldt]

whew

[pseudo merlin]

./s means sarcasm

[digital berry]

There’s levels to the Degen

[dapper wing]

Degens get shamed if they are proud of it

[errant flint]

Whats good levels vs bad levels?

[dapper wing]

like genuinely proud of it

[digital berry]

Throwing convoke onto the dmg amped add on mugzee was not very shamed

Hence why it was removed from logs

Speccing ec to do negative boss dmg and holding cds for parses ? Cringe

Or like what the Chinese guilds did on one armed

Taking turns padding on adds

[errant flint]

Im probably not allowed to post my emoji

Bc I see parse sluts and I want some parses too

[dapper wing]

(TBF to my parse, I'm also rank 17 for boss damage so I wasn't full war crime add pad)

But my parse is 100% war crime add pad

[errant flint]

Thats how you cover it up so no one looks at your breakdown.

[dapper wing]

lol

[errant flint]

[digital berry]

You can parse 99 by just simply playing the character properly with good gear

[dapper wing]

True

[digital berry]

No need to do monkey shit

Especially not in heroic eww

[dapper wing]

You can parse 99 by fucking UP still

Did it on loomithar, fucked my trees/dryad/convoke window twice and still hit 99

[wooden latch]

Is there an updated dryad weak aura for the stored damage, I need some dopamine

[digital berry]

If you want dopamine I’d recommend rerolling

[dapper wing]

True

[pseudo merlin]

try gambling

[dapper wing]

Play mage, mage always has dopamine

[meager storm]

its week 1 most people are doing raids before sending 4 set

[dapper wing]

That too

Unfair advantage having 4 set

[errant flint]

Can we just steal some of it?

[dapper wing]

As boomkin, nah

[digital berry]

You will have your dryad and you will like it

[errant flint]

And by some I mean all

[dapper wing]

we are good every blue moon for raid

M+ you can have your dopamine

last season

[errant flint]

Whats 4 set life like?

[digital berry]

I still don’t have 4p so I’m convinced when I get it it’ll be real bad to get used to new opener and timing windows for double cas

[errant flint]

Wish 4 set meant 4x as much dmg

[dapper wing]

Relearning muscle memory, trying to not fuck up my dryad window

EC M+ is fun

[meager storm]

opener is pretty easy

[dapper wing]

Yeah

It took me like 3? attempts on dummy to unlearn the old memory

Kinda just send two surges after CA then pop trees

same rotation as before besides saving 2 surges for after dryad is gone

[pseudo merlin]

2 years from now everyone is going to be like "remember dryad? That shit was so fun, bring back dryad"

just like RF

[dapper wing]

Give me back Pulsar

I want pulsar

[digital berry]

How many gcds do you get after convoke in opener before dryad expires

[pseudo merlin]

I want dryad+pulsar+rf

[dapper wing]

Uh

Like 3?

something like that

[digital berry]

Wtf do you do just wrath?

[dapper wing]

I'm still learning so I hold my sends a bit

[digital berry]

Surge wrath wrath?

[dapper wing]

That's probably not the efficient way to do it

but I am

I'm just playing it safe till I can do it in my sleep

[digital berry]

It also depends on convoke rng no

Sometimes you get shit for asp from it

[dapper wing]

Like I fucked my window HARD

missed a CA'ed surge

due to not having enough astral

[digital berry]

Missed a dryad surge entirely

[dapper wing]

so yeah probably, Convoke -> Surge, Wrath till you send the 2 surges after dryad

[digital berry]

Like 50% of our dmg season 3

[dapper wing]

Still a 99 lol

4 piece broken for parsing when 79% of people don't have it

Surge, Wrath x2, Surge x2. Cry until your next Dryad window

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[digital berry]

And out of the 21% that do probably 80% don’t know how to use it

[dapper wing]

[digital berry]

You also didn’t double ca

Huh

In what universe

[dapper wing]

I don't like it tbh

[digital berry]

What in tarnation

[dapper wing]

I'd take a gamble of hitting that crit and having CA up for my second dryad window

I'm not good at this game lol.

I just kinda did what felt right

[digital berry]

You mean trees

[dapper wing]

Nah

Yeah

Yeah

Tree's for the second window

[digital berry]

[dapper wing]

24% extra damage on the second dryad

[digital berry]

99 parser btw

[dapper wing]

Versus 20% more crit chance

I don't know what's correct

Just did what felt right

[digital berry]

Must have crit every dryad window by sheer luck

[dapper wing]

I have astral antenna

As well

So crit chance goes brrr

[digital berry]

Double ca is what the tc believe to be the correct play afaik

[dapper wing]

Yeah, tbh they are probably correct

But until I see mythic parses and read through logs I'm just doing what feels right

[digital berry]

I think last i asked it was a 100k dps diff

[dapper wing]

oof

[digital berry]

Tbh not a big fan either

But alas

[dapper wing]

yeah, if it's correct I'll do it

when it matters, but for week 1 I'm doing what's easily repeatable without like thinking for myself

[digital berry]

Im just gonna pull timings from lorrgs and do the pew pew ing without doing the thinking

Since with double ca you have to hold and delay and shit based off of fight length and amp phases

[dapper wing]

mhm

[digital berry]

Can’t wait to do 2/1/2/1/2 on dimensius

[dapper wing]

I'm gonna miss my 1 and a half on use

2 minute on use hurts my brain with Control of the Dream

[scarlet tapir]

Let him cook

[modest orchid]

why is my cloak 707 on an alt

[shy void]

cuz 707 is LOL upside downand backwards

it's blizzard making fun of you for playing moonkin

kotg 4 set feels like subtlety rogue man

quintupled down on the bursty nature of kotg

[lofty depot]

go upgrade it

[shy void]

mess it up or get a bad mechanic or don't crit starsurge and you get owned

do it properly and you get to be mid-low dps

[wispy parrot]

anyone has some good plater profile?

[rotund acorn]

was wondering if anyone can help me out. I tried to use the dreamgrove mdt sim link to try and get the weakaura to sim my self in m+ but that link no longer works, was wondering if people are still using weakaura for this, or if there is a new method i am just not aware of. like perhaps its part of raidbots or mdt and i dont need the weak aura anymore.

[lofty depot]

the weakaura hasnt been updated

[snow elm]

how many starsurge procs do you usually get between elunes furys when using 4set?

[primal oriole]

are they're any dryad wa's?

[serene elk]

Hello ! I got a question
4p EC can infinite stack ?

[lofty depot]

https://wago.io/OiBalance

[fervent roost]

I’ve updated my set today with the sets

[lofty depot]

can copy from there

[primal oriole]

can just grab the dryad tracker?

[lofty depot]

yes

[fervent roost]

Yes extract from group on wago

Or import all and delete

[lofty depot]

or can use the pack cuz its the best one

:/

[primal oriole]

im using krona's

[lofty depot]

hes a feral

what he know

[primal oriole]

but that ones doesn't have a dryad tracker

ik

it was what i used before this season

[modest orchid]

it is upgraded

it has all the points

[royal zenith]

oi has a standalone

for dryad

https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet

[primal oriole]

TY

[glass geode]

pin that wa?

[lofty depot]

no

[royal zenith]

can be added to compendium if @lucid olive is feeling it

[wispy parrot]

can someone share a good plater profile?

[round field]

Jundies good

[wispy parrot]

thanks. will look it up

[dapper wing]

Jundies

Is goated

[acoustic pawn]

I do not understand my droptimizer here. can somebody explain to me why the DB ring sims higher than the HOA ring??? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n1JAzjdHMvBQLUn92eUzMr

[loud kettle]

They're different stats

[round field]

cause your character currently likes crit more than matery

[acoustic pawn]

hm

feels odd

[round field]

also why are u simming weekly

yuck

[loud kettle]

Its only odd if youre stuck in 2010 and care about stat weights

[acoustic pawn]

wdym

[loud kettle]

what do you need clarified

[round field]

just because mastery is our best stats

doesnt mean you just auto equip something because it has mastery on it

[lofty depot]

welcome to 11.2 boomkin

[acoustic pawn]

thank u @lofty depot

finally a sane answer

jkjk

[round field]

what do you find odd

[lofty depot]

3 Vers / mastery rings

lock in

[cerulean smelt]

What pieces do we pick between when crafting?

[acoustic pawn]

depends if I get mythic mace from first boss

[lofty depot]

the one that sims the highest

[lofty depot]

or hero kris

but whos giving that to boomkin kek

[acoustic pawn]

my guild

[chilly oriole]

hopefully the vault xD

[acoustic pawn]

we split mythic first 2 bosses

[serene thunder]

Got the mace from 1st mythic and crafted OH. Funny ~400k sim dps jump from best in slots

[cerulean smelt]

is mace BiS from 1st myth?

[round field]

not bis but good

[lofty depot]

its liek 2nd or 3rd bis

kris is bis

but mace is good early

[tropic lynx]

if i got hero kris, what to craft

[vital hound]

oh

[round field]

oh what?

why are you suprised

[vital hound]

off hand you GOOSE

[round field]

[upper surge]

the desperate renewal 😁

[royal zenith]

I feel that sheep

[terse tartan]

when do we stop using

[royal zenith]

pretty soon, as it got nerfed

and you guessed it Bazr...

sim it

[terse tartan]

no longer have premium raidbots

sims dead to me

had to do all dungeons individually... almost cried

[royal zenith]

just look up the name of some rings you think work well and add them to top-gear

[harsh herald]

Probably only have enough interations to do one ring + gems though on the free sim

Haha

[maiden pasture]

It Sims worse than most hero rings for me

[maiden pasture]

Is droptimiser a premium only thing???

[harsh herald]

the all dungeon selection is i believe

[weary urchin]

Anyone have a link to the wowhead bis list sim?

[royal zenith]

no it's noe maya

not *

but you can only do like per dungeon

it's very limited

[royal zenith]

no, cause we don't really support bis lists

and it matters more what drops for your character

there's only a few things that can be considerd 'bis' like your weapon or trinkets

[weary urchin]

more so just curious what absolute bis #'s sim around

[royal zenith]

in terms of dps?

5.6mil

[weary urchin]

ty

[terse tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506

10 mins of trying to add https://www.wowhead.com/item=178824/signet-of-the-false-accuser?bonus=3248 to my raidbots sim

help.

[round field]

?

write item write ilvl click done

[terse tartan]

where in raid bots was that?

[round field]

topgear

[upper surge]

How do we sim for gems? Any special settings to account for blasphemite bonus, or dont bother and go for same color gems as indicated by standard sim? I've not found the answer in the compendium.

[terse tartan]

found it

https://tenor.com/view/walks-away-simpsons-bush-hide-homer-gif-15348905

[royal zenith]

I literally said topgear to you

noob

[lofty depot]

check all the boxes

always use, only max colors

[upper surge]

thank you 🙏

[weary urchin]

if every ones sims pointing them to more of a mastery/haste/vers type split? lots of mastery/vers & haste/vers items being simmed as highest options right now

[royal zenith]

what about it?

[weary urchin]

already have 7k vers, just seems odd that is the type of item being focused.

[royal zenith]

why?

Balance druid typically cares most for Intellect and Mastery

the other secondaries are very situational

also depends on hero talent/talents in general

that's why you don't stack stats

[fossil hemlock]

If you have new 4p and you're simming kotg on ST your sim will want a lot more crit/vers and a lot less haste

[weary urchin]

this is what im simming

[royal zenith]

yeah it will want more crit/vers for your Cd window

cause convoke is not hasted

you want to slap phat starsurges

[fossil hemlock]

And when you drop Moxie jug you'll also want a lot more crit since it gives like 15k+ when it's up

[weary urchin]

thanks, this is helpful to know

[royal zenith]

on my EC loadout it equips lily (mastery) and on KOTG loadout it adds a second crit trinket

[fossil hemlock]

Mitigated by getting the Loom'ithar trinket

(I think that's the boss)

[weary urchin]

yes

[fossil hemlock]

That also gives a bunch of crit from the orbs

[weary urchin]

wowhead is just misleading a bit then. confused as to why the sudden change in secondaries but pointing me in the direction of 4s cleared it up.

[royal zenith]

It's not really misleading, as it's prefaced with "always sim" and/or disclaimers telling you to check

but people still have the "what is stat priority?" question loaded into their brain, from 10 years ago

wowhead caters to that

[weary urchin]

have you looked at it?

[royal zenith]

ye

[weary urchin]

So either y'all are wrong, or this is misleading.

[round field]

its more like

you can play both with the same gear

[royal zenith]

yup, and both mastery/haste are good for balance in general

it really depends on what you think virtually the same means

you can also just equip a ring with completely different stats and sim the difference, to see how much it affects your guy

[gilded arch]

anyone here tried hardmode? can we shapeshift the mailboss?

[worldly spruce]

I think i saw someone say we could yesterday

[gilded arch]

i mean we can without the root aswell

[potent zinc]

Does anyone have a weak aura for the free proc from wrath during eclipse

[ripe magnet]

flight form not work on Dimensius?

[clever ibex]

How balance looking in m+ now?

[round field]

no

[frozen solar]

while we run 2+2p the KOTG ST opener is really the same as last tier right? the CA->x2 surge->GGs etc come in play only with 4p?

[royal zenith]

ye

the delay is used to game the 4pc effect

[delicate perch]

too bad I'm doing it without

[royal zenith]

same

gotta get some muscle memory!!

[delicate perch]

jks I have 4pc

[royal zenith]

same!!

how much do you sim now @delicate perch

[delicate perch]

only 3.8 haste filled gear been afk all weekend

hbu

I lied 3.9

kinda insane

[royal zenith]

what the

4.4 atm

[delicate perch]

[royal zenith]

not that we will see play

but at least we got 4p

[delicate perch]

someone has to press mark

[royal zenith]

lucky

[delicate perch]

jks we have 2 druids

[amber kindle]

Hi guys is m+ deserter still in the game ?

[minor swift]

I’m also like 40% haste, wild. But haven’t done much yet, ilvl 686 only

Rotation question (because my normal parses are grey and green) - do you hit CA as soon as it’s available or wait until your current eclipse ends?

[royal zenith]

y

[olive trout]

Hi guys its normal that with new 4 set all sims remove all haste from gear? I have now like 8k only and i feel like so slow now

[frozen solar]

thanks

[delicate perch]

haste stinky

[drifting nova]

why fix what needs to be fixed when imaginary problem exists

[royal zenith]

isn't that your thing

creating imaginary problems

[drifting nova]

(I still cant do a shitbreaker key without SOME bug)

[royal zenith]

"omg guys Im not even getting invited to m0"

• Kekkers 569 ilvl

[drifting nova]

not like it'l change anything, look at league for example

blizzard cant even learn from other games

[tulip snow]

how can I see the tier set pooling numbers when on the training dummy?

[lucid olive]

You can't

But some quick math you can figure it out

You can not pool for more than 10x your intellect

So if you have 100k intellect that's 1 million, 1 million is 3% of 33.3 million, meaning that any damage you do over that number in CDs does not count towards the pool

[open harbor]

do we even pool EC 4pc or do we just send Fury on CD?

[lucid olive]

On cd

[open harbor]

so its kinda irrelevant to track it in a m+ or raid scenario, right? cause... why do i care?

[pallid bay]

well they can expire

so tracking when it will can alter your decisions

[lucid olive]

I had a 6 stacker expire to RP yesterday

Wanted to hearthstone

[pallid bay]

truely a masterpiece of a tierset

[open harbor]

does it refresh? i just got 2pc lol

[lucid olive]

Yes refreshes when it procs

But only lasts 20 seconds

[open harbor]

tyvm

[tulip snow]

this is what I saw on tettles vod that made me think of the question, maybe I'm just incorrect of what I thought those numbers represent

[lucid olive]

Yeah that's a Weakaura we used on PTR to test the cap

Idk if it's updated for the 10x cap

[tulip snow]

ooh ok, so I guess the blizz API for that isn't doable in live?

[lucid olive]

Nah you can probably do it with a Weakaura

Just nobody has bothered doing it cause there's no point

[tulip snow]

that's fair haha, I think I'm looking for like a visual thing I can see for myself

does the WA still exist somewhere?

[lucid olive]

Maybe on Dsune's wago somewhere

You could also just make a simple Weakaura that shows the value in the dryads favor tooltip

But it's useless information and visual clutter

[tulip snow]

not like I'd use this for content

yeah

so the tooltip contains that info? of course it does, I was thinking of the buff/debuff tooltips

(in terms of dynamic numbers)

totally rubber ducking here

I guess I'd have to wait till tuesday for 4pc and see the buff for myself

@pallid bay can you paste the PTR WA for ya boi, I'm curious for myself

[pallid bay]

uh

https://wago.io/ft5oo9eGI

[pseudo merlin]

potentially bad for fps

[gentle patio]

Could we blackmail some popular streamer into making a tier list where boomkin is S+ tier so we get invited in groups again?

[tulip snow]

thanks homie

[brittle anvil]

When is it good to drop 4set? on 4 set from the new?

[tulip snow]

I've just been simming differences

[tropic lynx]

With the kriss dagger on hero track, do i still opt for crafting a 2h next week?

[tulip snow]

also same thing, sim it for the content you're doing

holding out for the set bonus would be good with the kriss, and just take the offhand craft

I think the idea behind getting the kriss is that you have 2 slots for crafted gear that aren't boots, belt, or cloak

[tropic lynx]

Is it even worth it playing the set bonus with kriss, u need to play with the trinket right?

[tulip snow]

yeah I actually walked it back a bit there on the set bonus

I think there's other trinkets that are better than having the set bonus

but also you can sim the scenarios

[tropic lynx]

so wait a weak and craft 2h unless i can get kriss on myth track

is what makes the most sense i think

[lucid olive]

the trinket kinda stinks compared to other options

[tulip snow]

cool cool

so yeah, the main idea is to make sure that your crafted slots don't fuck with the rest of the non optional gear pieces (at least for right now)

cause if you craft a 2H, where is your other nerubian embellishment going?

[misty glade]

I dont think anyone answered, but you can break old 4 set as soon as you can get new 2pc and go 2p/2p

[brittle anvil]

Thanks was just simming it 😛

[misty glade]

np, that question is asked a lot in here.

[zealous zenith]

this is not boomkin related as such

BUT why do i only have 2 fractured (1 whole) spark and people are out here crafting this week?

[tulip snow]

I gave a paladin discord answer

[misty glade]

massive.

[tulip snow]

maybe they're crafting bracers or off hand with a m+ dagger

you should only have 1 spark and 1/2 fractured sparks this week

[zealous zenith]

AHHhh im a fool! thought people out here crafting weapons haha welp

i am still missing the half which is weird

[tulip snow]

oh I mean like, you have 1 fractured spark this week

the other half to make a full spark

[zealous zenith]

thank you ❤️

[tulip snow]

yeah so I belive on tuesday you'll get the other fractured spark to make another full spark

then you can craft 2 things ( bracers and off hand ) or a single 2H

[merry ibex]

Does anyone have a list of the optimal talent builds for each boss? I raid tonight and I was just wondering, if not not I guess I'll go rip it off warcraftlogs.

[tulip snow]

honestly if you're down bad check archon.gg

made by the same people as warcraftlogs, you can check what people are using per boss/difficulty

from a quick glance, it's like the same as last season, except some people seem to have fun with the other hero talent on some bosses (which is honestly cool to me)

[tulip snow]

if you're just rawdogging it, just be in the mindset that you're the same as last season with a 16% aura buff

[merry ibex]

Thank you

[tawny cloud]

Is archon.gg a good way to follow up on speccs or would you point me somewherre else? Ive been using archon.gg all last season

[tulip snow]

possibly look at lycera's blessing in the druid talent tree and see if that applies to how your group/content is.

I will say that Soulbinder, Forgeweaver, and the Soul Hunters are cleave fights (in my experience) so play those fights as you did last season

[tulip snow]

it just uses data from warcraftlogs, so it's not really curated by anyone but a computer

[tawny cloud]

I see. Where should I start looking then?

[tulip snow]

well it's not a bad place to look

it's like getting a vibe from what people are doing on bosses in their specs

I think a combo of archon and lorrgs.io could be a introspective

[tawny cloud]

Yeah, I figured it would be somewhat legit. But honestly im not so good with all the talents and numbers, and just want to enjoy the game, so looking for the easy way 🤣

[tulip snow]

lorrgs falls apart the later the content goes on because groups just kill the boss in like 20 seconds and it ruins the site

[tulip snow]

oh well shit, just enjoy the damn game

[tawny cloud]

Yeah well I raid mythic and i do bad numbers so trying to improve this season. So im trying to learn and suck in all the knowleage i can

[earnest plover]

is leech on one item better than having a socket?

[tulip snow]

wow is in honestly a good spot right now, yeah people have quirks with it, but it's good

[tawny cloud]

You cam have both? Leech is an extra random stat

[earnest plover]

yes but I can choose shoulders with leech from vault that I can catalyse, or socket

[jaunty blaze]

leech is whatever

[hallow falcon]

I am hopefully going to try H forgeweaver araz again today, but yesterday didn't go very well but got him to 16%. Very new to DPSing as balance, but I see that the main talent build used for forgeweaver on archon seems to be different than the standard cleave build. Very hard to tell if this is people padding or actually doing the fight as intended/trying to push it xD

I'm also trying to figure out if I should keep the collectors dotted through the fight - or only dot the boss/echo until the intermission? I do more damage when dotting everything, but I'm not sure it's actually useful to succeed at the fight

These are the logs from yesterday (yes I know I am very bad xD, just trying to improve, I haven't played Balance since Shadowlands): https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/C1kqWXGDBFJVhrHN

[tulip snow]

archon won't have mythic stuff for a while, but honestly heroic could be a decent indicator. if you're doing mythic right now then IDK what to tell you (I haven't stepped into mythic yet, only heroic)

[tawny cloud]

What i did was focus one with wraths, and dot all 3 up and spamm starfall and near center to hit all of them.. No idea ig it was smart or not

[tawny cloud]

Ah we are clearing Hc first. We are 4/8 after 1 raid. So we pick up the rest tomorrow. So not fuzzed with mythc speccs yet

[tulip snow]

ah yeah so honestly just #balance message

but yeah archon should be a good enough vibe since it's based off of logs that have actually defeated the boss

[tulip snow]

I will emphasize a bit here on how archon is a suggestion tool.
the Forgeweaver experience I have, sometimes (you) have to figure our if you need to need more ADD damage or more boss damage (most likely) (adds die faster, more people are on the boss. etc)

[tawny cloud]

We were told to get more single target dmg because we had like 15% left on boss when we got sucked in. And when we changed we got him after 2 pulls or so. So yeah that boss is a little depending of groupesetup

[tulip snow]

that boss is a huge DPS check imo, wouldn't be surprised I we saw nerfs after RWF

if you have other classes that are absolutely cranking their hog on adds then I would pump into the boss to make up for it

[royal zenith]

It's very much add-control

[tawny cloud]

I dont know all the short terms of stuff. Whats RWF and Hog? 😅

[royal zenith]

DPS is always a 'check' when you're undergeared

[hallow falcon]

lmao 😄

[royal zenith]

race to world first

a hog is a pig

🐷

[tawny cloud]

Oink oink

[hidden orbit]

I think u meant hoj

[tulip snow]

oh like "raid world first" and "cranking your hog" low key jerkin it

[royal zenith]

u feel

[hidden orbit]

Whats our off piece this tier?

[tulip snow]

hog is 🍆

[tulip snow]

wdym?

[hidden orbit]

We equip 4 tier pieces.
Which one we dont equip as tier

[tulip snow]

sim everything, but our long johns probably

[hidden orbit]

Legs?

[velvet sentinel]

one of them gives us verse and crit, thats the worst of them

[tulip snow]

yeah

[hidden orbit]

Okie ty

[tulip snow]

bless up

[velvet sentinel]

its legs

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/druid/balance/bis-gear

[tulip snow]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

[jaunty blaze]

legs are pretty good tho

shoulders are likely worst

dont follow a list anyway

[tulip snow]

just forgetting it the totally niche term of "long johns" is covered in what's left of the american education system

[dusty quest]

Hello friends, I have a problem with the Hectiv Add Cleave sims in Raidbots. Is there any information?

[tulip snow]

real

[digital berry]

Don’t use that sim option

[swift elbow]

Is hectic add cleave actually mentioned?

Maintained*

[royal zenith]

you preferably don't want shoulders

[digital berry]

Vers and crit are the best stats for us this season aside mastery

[dusty quest]

i want sims for "M+"

[jaunty blaze]

mdt sim is probably your best bet

[digital berry]

Well that’s not an m+ sim and it doesn’t actually work

[winter spear]

what do u want to know for m+?

what ur overall should look like?

or what the best gear is?

[dusty quest]

@winter spear can i send you my sims link?

i dont will spam here ^^

[winter spear]

do it ig

[digital berry]

You can send here

That’s what the discord server is for

[dusty quest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

[tulip snow]

why's that? (I'm looking up the shoulders atm)

[winter spear]

i could sim myself

but this link gives me nothing

[royal zenith]

all the other pieces gives mastery

[tulip snow]

must've missed your completed sim link

[royal zenith]

it's not that important anyway

[tulip snow]

badass

[dusty quest]

sec i will fixed itz

[royal zenith]

can always compensate by equipping different rings etc.

[winter spear]

for m+ if u play EC u can just fully stack Mastery haste

[digital berry]

How easy is it to replace jastors?

[royal zenith]

you don't stack shit

you sim it

[winter spear]

ur not wrong but thats just EC

[dusty quest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bL9JVjw7AGziTjsEtpLF32

is it works?

[digital berry]

Again don’t use hectic add cleave

It’s not supported for balance

[winter spear]

i mean hectic add cleave + 5mins + 5bosses is not the best to sim for sure

[tulip snow]

yeah sim for your different specs

[digital berry]

To sim for m+ most people either just sim patchwerk 5m1t and call it a day or use mdt sims

[dusty quest]

oka ythanks, i wil check the MDT Sims

[drifting nova]

why do people lie? "3.8k last season"

hover over..3k

[jaunty blaze]

3.08k

small typo

[drifting nova]

actually worse than self selecting classes ngl

[digital berry]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[digital berry]

Ok but deathless hm pug? Impossible

I understand why they would be so selective

[drifting nova]

ok but why not take a good class

instead of chicken and paladin

like warlock

[digital berry]

I haven’t even cleared hm for heroic drops this week

[drifting nova]

if I had a dollar everytime someone failed to list their group properly

I'd be rich

[digital berry]

Bro the one thing that pisses me off about lfg is those groups up for 15 minutes for a 10, like bro how selective can you be

[drifting nova]

these people need banning

one for the group reasoning

two for failure to put it under mythic

and three, above all else

LISTING EVERY KEY NUMBER

so it comes up

[digital berry]

That’s criminal indeed

[drifting nova]

plus, 50k is poor hours

[digital berry]

As if people interested in higher keys are going to see that and think yeah you know what I’ll join this guy

[drifting nova]

I only want 4s

for christ sake

[digital berry]

Wtf are you running 4s for

[drifting nova]

me bad

gear bad

and pug

so have to do the rating ladder

whats hero gear, 6s?

[dusty quest]

is 2x2p rentable?

[digital berry]

I somehow managed to skip a bunch or the ladder climb this week by just forcefully applying to 9s and 10s with like no key timed

[drifting nova]

sure but my pisslow rating would never get me in so why bother

[drifting nova]

yeah you see..I'm a warrior

[digital berry]

It’s better then s2 4p

[dusty quest]

okay thanks

[velvet sentinel]

i just hit 700 ilvl, and now i get instant invites to 10s again, people love that 7 lol

[urban crescent]

i cant decide if i should just send a staff craft next week with 2nd spark or just wait

any advice

[digital berry]

Wait for vault, possibly first mythic kill if you raid mythic

[velvet sentinel]

craft is bis, i went 1h dagger for the aforementioned 700 ilvl week 1 lol

[digital berry]

Unforch

[dusty quest]

IS Dagger+Offhand bis or Staff Bis?

[digital berry]

That’s actually the first time i see a wrong decision

[dusty quest]

@crafting

[delicate perch]

ok I'm taking mine off

[royal zenith]

`do it

play with 3pc

[digital berry]

I think sims put dagger from fract + crafted oh above 2h

[dusty quest]

i mean crafted i start in 2-3 Weeks in Mythic

[drifting nova]

it's 1 catalyst a week right?

[urban crescent]

wondering if crafted 2h is just better to start with to avoid competition for voidglass weapons

[digital berry]

No every 2 weeks I’m pretty sure

[urban crescent]

alternates between spark and catalyst every week

[velvet sentinel]

next week is spark, week after is catalyst

[drifting nova]

not run norm yet but itd be a pug and idk if just easier to catalyse for 2p lol

[sick terrace]

Hello guys, with 4p how do we use 3rd CA ? Do we wait an other stack to double CA ? Or we just send on like 2 mins ?

[digital berry]

You send at 2 so you don’t sit on convoke

[sick terrace]

Seems logic ty

[velvet sentinel]

do not use that third catalyst unless it gives you 4 piece no matter how tempting it is lol

[digital berry]

You gotta be trolling to not have 4p by week 3

[sick terrace]

On this 3rd CA should I send dryad's surge at the very end of CA or should i wait next eclipse for boat ?

[velvet sentinel]

you can be really unlucky

[digital berry]

Well dryad buff is 15 se ones

[digital berry]

If you’re in a guild running heroic / normal and preparing for mythic, you’ll get one tier piece from raid by week 2 almost guaranteed

[velvet sentinel]

there is a non zero chance that 0 druid tier pieces drop lol

[digital berry]

There’s a 100% chance that curios drop from both normal and heroic

[velvet sentinel]

what if you have mages

[digital berry]

I mean if your loot council hates you i guess it’s gg

[lucid olive]

at the end of the CA

pool AP to make sure you can cast it there

[wild dune]

What if you only pug raid and vault hates you

[sick terrace]

thank u

[digital berry]

3 vaults + 2 cata + 3 normal/ heroic/ lfr reclears

Its very very unlikely you don’t have 4p

[viral cliff]

Oh boy my key rolled into floodgate #365,788 of this week
Bout to crash out

Coulda been halls but naw

[wild dune]

So more unlucky than trolling

[digital berry]

Well if you’re out here picking random shit from vault instead of tier set pieces when youre pugging all raids you’re trolling

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-smile-happy-pleasant-ok-gif-7842402999527921837

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-turtle-cat-on-turtle-cat-and-turtle-gif-1162392238350475173

[jaunty blaze]

2 second wrath casts going hard

[drifting nova]

there goes a bricked gambit

sometimes I think tanking is easy

then I see these people

[coral berry]

How do you guys solo t8 delves? Even with Brann as tank, I die once mobs get on me. (ilvl 662)

[formal marsh]

u can solo any level delve

i take the treant taunt talent

[lucid olive]

healer brann better

remember to pick up the health pots he throws around

take treants that taunt and play around your cooldowns

use vortex/typhoon well

[prime hill]

Hey guys, need a little help with a macro! I actually use a Brez macro with mouseover, but if i was shift in bear form, i can't use it. How i can add something to swap form and lauch it (only if i was in Bear Form). thanks 🙂

[lucid olive]

i think casting rebirth shifts you out unless you're specced into guardian no?

[coral berry]

Do youtank brann as tank or dps?

[lucid olive]

you only make brann tank if you're a healer tbh

[prime hill]

think so, but i had the issue just now in a dungeon, tooltip say i need rage when i shift bear

[lucid olive]

tooltips lie

[exotic perch]

you need 30 rage to rebirth in bear right

[prime hill]

Y, can't do without rage 🙁 So, what i can add in macro (/cast [@mouseover,exists] brez ) to avoid brain lag when my brez don't go 😄

[delicate perch]

you'd want to cancel bear form in the macro, but really if you're in bear form as balance and need to res you're probably dead shorlty anyway

[lucid olive]

doesnt casting rebirth in bear just auto shift you

[formal marsh]

Are you tuning the APL by hand or utilizing machine learning?

[exotic perch]

is that with fluid form

didnt know rebirth was considering a human form

[lucid olive]

AI doesn't know APL well enough

[lucid olive]

no clue i'm just curious

[exotic perch]

cause im p sure you shift out if you do it in cat

but bear has a rez just costs rage

the ferals are prob pissed about that

[lucid olive]

yeah but unsure if that version of rebirth is flagged just for guardian spec

and the tooltip sucks

[formal marsh]

How much has it been explored? Genetic algorithm probably do at least as good as the hand tuning?

[exotic perch]

i remember being pissed having to rez on fyrakk cause it took 3 gcds

[lucid olive]

doubtful

it could only be situationally useful for helping you write specific logic

[exotic perch]

you know you dont have to have AI do everything for you

you can in fact use your brain to do things

[formal marsh]

machine learning != AI

[lucid olive]

you can probably start feeding the machine a bunch of APL and see what it cooks up

but without basic understand of what specific rotation you are trying to accomplish it would surely just be doing weird stuff

[exotic perch]

im pretty sure the first thing it would do is ignore eclipse or think it sucks

[lucid olive]

need to feed it the current version of SimC with the class module and conintously update it as the modules get updated

[prime hill]

Thanks for ur answer, i just add something to change me in moonkin form if i'm in bear form 🙂 But ive no idead before today it doesn't auto shift me

[lofty depot]

Clanker knows it well enough

[lucid olive]

I just tested in bear

had someone die next to dummy in Dornogal, mangled Dummy to hit 30 rage and pressed Rebirth, insta shifted me out and didn't consume the rage

[young ravine]

so... raidbots isnt letting me sim for multi target. anyway to fix this. it says is not supported for the class/spec?

[exotic perch]

so its a guardian code then yep

[lucid olive]

Yes, sim patchwerk and don't use fight styles that aren't supported

[lofty depot]

If by multi target u mean dungeon slice, yea because it's not supported

[lucid olive]

Dungeon Slice has never been supported for Balance, but people never bothered reading the big yellow warning saying it doesn't work, so Raidbots disabled the button instead

[lofty depot]

Gastank*

[lucid olive]

he is mr raidbot

[lofty depot]

Mr Raidbot 👀

[young ravine]

ok, weird, so patchwork got it!

[lofty depot]

[young ravine]

ty

[blazing fossil]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nZfrqmgd4YXxPtvN?fight=25&type=auras&source=4&ability=1236807

hey guys i just killed mythic plexus sentinel, can somebody tell me why i don't gain my 4pc in intermission 2 & 3, respectively at the 4min and 6min marks

[opaque spruce]

o/

Morning boomies, got a trink question. This Diamantine Voidcore, is it good cause you're constantly inting mana prepull or during, or just good in general?

Or ig for the set bonus.

[digital berry]

i imagine it's either bugged ( Which sucks massive dick ) or the log just didn't pick it up?

this is the opener for the second parse on plexus M

what the actual fuck is this

[lofty depot]

We gain too much mana to effectively stay at 25%

[digital berry]

ARCTIC i need you to exbalin why he didnt get dryad buff i am confusion

[lofty depot]

I'm at costco

[digital berry]

oh

get me a hotdog and a slice of pepperoni pizza pls

[blazing fossil]

i have vod but its negative fps

[lofty depot]

Post that too

If gamz doesn't get to it I'm an hour I'll look

[lyric tulip]

is potent entchantments getting morer relevanz now

[lucid olive]

depends on fight timers

[lyric tulip]

aight thx

[digital berry]

He's casting ca at 3:53 but he doesnt get dryad until his ca cast at 4:25

[lofty depot]

Maybe plexus sentinel purifies the field and deletes druid buffs

Hmm

[digital berry]

this other guy also casts 7 CA but only get 5 dryad buffs

[ionic turtle]

is there a way to reduce the visual effect from starfall?

like this shimmering

[digital berry]

can just generally lower spell density / particle density i believe

[ionic turtle]

ty

[tawdry oak]

is there a way to easily copy talent builds from warcraft logs

for quicker testing

[blazing fossil]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2542608289

[vapid anvil]

Are we cranking in keys right now? I’m wearing my old gear(haven’t gotten anything new minus cape) and I’m destroying people overall or atleast being close to geared players

[lofty depot]

Go to summary and click the export button

[tawdry oak]

ty ty

[lofty depot]

U got a 16% buff and others need tier to get that kind of buff

[digital berry]

Youre also pugging with people who are most likely missing fingers

[odd quartz]

how is balance rn? worth trying? (maining resto)

[lofty depot]

What would be "worth it" in ur eyes

[odd quartz]

fun, and not always the lowest dps

[digital berry]

Fun is subjective, not always the lowest dps depends on how you play and who you play with

It’s technically not very good in st scenarios numbers wise and it’s ok in m+

[round field]

fun is subjective (its not very fun)

[opaque pebble]

stupid question - does top gear account for embelish? reckons i should drop my ring with the lens embelish for a 701 ring haste/mastery

[round field]

it does yes

[lofty depot]

I am having fun and not the lowest dps

But that fun will slowly fade away

[odd quartz]

why?

will it fade

[lofty depot]

Because once everyone gets gear and tier u will start losing

[odd quartz]

oh :/

[lofty depot]

Hopefully when Araz gets nuked u can delete p3

[digital berry]

Arctic are you still at Costco

[lofty depot]

I am getting gas

[hot plank]

Hi how od you feel about KOTG in Mplus? is it much worse there then Elunes? I have such a hardtime not getting mad about the Elunes 4 piece

[lofty depot]

Why r u getting mad at the 4p

And keeper does zdps outside of cds

Where EC can generally stick with people

[hot plank]

SOmetimes i just sit on stacks and they run out before we can pull another group

[digital berry]

I mean ok

[lofty depot]

Tell ur tank to pull

[digital berry]

It’a not smth you have control over so don’t stress about it

[hot plank]

I see will try to get more used to it then

[lofty depot]

It's also week 1 of people learning routes and ability to pull

Worrying about the min max of shit is kinda crazy

[outer oasis]

lol EC’s 4pc is a joke, I cant have it every mob from start, even sometimes 40% trigger cant stop the buff stop

20sec duration rly too short need buff

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/perrito-luz-del-sol-sunlight-perro-dog-gif-9244311782841500716

[cloud plover]

skill issh

[outer oasis]

But u don’t agree the 20sec buff is too short? Once one of ur team died , the time waiting him and go to next wave. Ur buff is end

And u need even pay 4-8sec to dot before foe

[royal zenith]

its too short yes

they should give it the qol check like they did for firemage

[fickle pine]

Stonebound Artistry out performing Radiant Power in ST and AoE sims for anyone else? Dont see it suggested in any guides

[royal zenith]

a lot of talents are within margin

[jaunty blaze]

for me councils guile outsims in st with new 4pc

[fickle pine]

councils and artistry pretty close for me, both ahead of radiant power

[lofty depot]

Well it should out perform it in st

[red nymph]

Pulsar plz

[worldly spruce]

yeah you lost dryad buff at 4:10

it didn't empowered your surges

you can see the dryad afk

[normal pilot]

hm unlucky maybe forced back to EC due to bugs

[worldly spruce]

she stopped casting when convok ends and then disappear

[normal pilot]

it stops casting after 5 that's normal

[blazing fossil]

happened on previous pulls as well at the same timing

and again at 6 mins

both during intermissions

[normal pilot]

prolly some issue with w/e mechanic is happening at that moment

maybe los/pathing

[digital berry]

Damn imagine if you couldn’t los your dryad without losing dmg that’d be insane

[lucid olive]

it was doing damage so

wonder what caused it

[normal pilot]

ya the dryad buff expires at the right time, 10s later

something prevented the favor buff from applying

[lofty depot]

it be casting

can it die

its under all of that

[worldly spruce]

since pools stun and random teleport you

maybe there is a fcked interraction

[lucid olive]

it lasted for the right amount so doubt it died

[lofty depot]

nvm it doesnt go off before

[normal pilot]

ya that dryad doesn't take damage or get stunned in hte log

[lofty depot]

hm

[normal pilot]

if it got stunned that could be it, they often forget proper flags to allow stunned actors to act

[lofty depot]

it fades before those go off tho

[harsh jungle]

why is droptimizer showing me that new tier is less dps then last seasons tier set

[lofty depot]

it sims items seperately

[harsh jungle]

ah i see

[lofty depot]

u dont use droptimizer for that

[harsh jungle]

ty

[reef root]

guys should i swap to 2+2 for keys ?

if i dont have 4 new t

[lofty depot]

2p2p is good

wonder if it dies to aoe

[reef root]

aight. i just dont know if 20% increase from shrooms is worse then 2 new pieces

[lofty depot]

@normal pilot so the dryad can take damage no?

[reef root]

for aoe

[lofty depot]

hm

hmm it has a funny gap

[lucid olive]

2p 2p good for keys

the Starfire buff from 2p better than Undermine 4p

[reef root]

@lucid olive ok thanks 😉

[rotund acorn]

In st with kotg. If you enter lunar eclipse by mistake. Is it better to still spam wrath? For those 12 seconds.

[lucid olive]

yes

[rotund acorn]

Ty

[lofty depot]

hmm

it just stops casting at 4m

[lucid olive]

yes it had finished its 5 surges

[lofty depot]

she just standing there

oh it only casts 5

kek

[lucid olive]

yes 5 every time

the cast time scales with haste

[lofty depot]

anti scaling