#balance

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full tundra
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that tier set is so ass

light seal
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embes are like nothing now huh? like 9ilvls to off hand and wrist and it simmed better to drop it

frozen solar
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i think getting loadout name eitehr changed or doesnt work, even thsi WA doesnt show my actual loadout (like the others) so don't use it for that.

livid jay
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why do u guys think the dryad stuff is ass

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i think it gives the rota some well needed complexity

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and dopamine potential

fossil hemlock
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Does it though

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It just shifts some casts around during burst

livid jay
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ye but u gotta make sure u got ap for the 2 surge window and shit like that

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gonna make it slightly harder to pull off than normal one

frozen solar
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peepoShrug i got lua error and never showed my loadout 😄

merry ibex
obsidian tapir
delicate perch
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Based

merry ibex
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LOL

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true this week tho

safe kite
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Can we do a paladin and just throw a massive tantrum while screaming on the floor until the fix the god damn buff duration on EC. This is the worst tier set they've ever made jebus christ

jaunty blaze
fossil shard
meager storm
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wym i loved cancelling aura pulsar, starlord and holding foe for like 10s

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so everything lined up

green narwhal
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whats the macro for trents ? cast on cursor ?

meager storm
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#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor]Force of Nature

green narwhal
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star !

iron chasm
meager storm
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that was always the case, aberrus just had a lot of things with diff timings

iron chasm
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And a council fight that wasn’t even a real council fight

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Total let down

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Rashok was cool tho

near bronze
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what u guys think would be best keeper or elune for m+ ?

safe kite
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i mean that's probably objectively true but I'm angry now

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so that makes it worse

honest mica
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anything changed for old 4p in m+?

hushed sleet
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How is Azhiccaran Parapodia simming for you guys? I see a lot of boomies playing with it, but for me its like a 40k dmg loss

iron chasm
honest mica
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this one should do the trick?

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trying to get back to dudu

iron chasm
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Is that from dreamgrove? If so yeah.

lucid olive
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I should probably make the Solar Beam CDR talent mandatory

safe kite
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100%

topaz quest
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not sure if im giga overthinking it, but what's the "technical" reason for surging twice/delaying trees by 2GCDs after you use CA and summon your dryad? cant seem to find any info on this on compendium unless im blind

jaunty blaze
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so your trees line up with the buffed starsurges

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to get the 24% dmg amp

topaz quest
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oh

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yeh lol that makes sense

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guess i was over thinking it

jaunty blaze
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if you do it like before the trees expire before you send the buffed surges

livid jay
jaunty blaze
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we have been lied to...

desert imp
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so whats the verdict guys, are we crafting 2H next week with embelish on wrist or the heroic 2H+trinket combo is better?

tawny cloud
jaunty blaze
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the other way round

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trees give you 24% increased damage

tawny cloud
tawny cloud
# pallid bay

Wau, cant belive i missed that 🤣 im an idiot

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Thanks alot

storm frigate
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i haven't tried out keeper of the grove build yet

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does one feel more fluid than the other?

solid herald
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guys KoTG in M+ or elune??

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also does anyone have a raid build for KoTG I can use? struggling to find something on youtube and uhhhh I don't love using icy or wowhead

radiant onyx
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any weak auras for our tier sets this season?

near bronze
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does anyone why i cant sim dungeon slice is anyone else got the same problem ?

marsh frost
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hey guys im back after skipping a tier. is there anything I should do with my old crafted staff from season 1 etc?

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recrafting it for s3 or whats the plan

iron chasm
lost violet
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Is Mug jug so broken? or broken in sims? i try sim with either ara kara och eco trinket 701. And yet my 671 Mug jug outperformce it by a lot ?????

jaunty blaze
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doesnt help that m+ trinkets are kinda stinky

fossil hemlock
strong bronze
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Yeah... Unless you get antenna + forge you arent really swapping out trinkets

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You would use signet or the 1 from eco dome as an active but mug jug just too good untill you swap it for antenna

obsidian tapir
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Elune 4 set feels like shit

obsidian tapir
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he is on steroids

delicate perch
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@lyric kettle 10t hectic add cleave or

upper surge
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Just 20 minutes of constantly cleaving 30 immortal training dummies

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This is how real heroes sim

lost violet
ivory geyser
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Anyone else seeing these weird yellow-dots in game?

delicate perch
steel charm
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how do you guys sim for aoe/m+? Just 5 target patchwerk?

lost violet
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and also i think its low, i am usually 15-20 mil packs

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7-9 mil overall

lofty depot
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simming for m+ is cringe

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u can search for "mdt" in the compendium to learn about that, but there's plenty of inconsistencies with that. The sim is better suited for 1t5m

potent cargo
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why even care KEK

near bronze
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is 2 / 2 set better then going full 4 set ? if i sim 2/2 is better

potent cargo
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m+ is m+

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sim for max boss dmg 1 target 3 mins or 1 target 5 min

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aoe dmg does itself

frozen solar
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on EC during CA on ST we dont need to wrath anymore with the new tier right? i imagine u just exclusively starfire to proc tier

lucid olive
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you always just pressed Starfire in that situation

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tier doesn't change it

frozen solar
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orly i thought i read on the compendium you'd wrath under 2-3 T eith EC. maybe i misremember

round field
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You definitely misremember

frozen solar
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Alright thanks

lucid olive
frozen solar
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thank you!

chrome torrent
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We’d never treat you like this in the DH discord

lucid olive
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no you'd slur at him

chrome torrent
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No that’d be way too easy

native slate
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Did they change the druid set for balance?

lucid olive
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tier sets get changed every season

native slate
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Nah, I mean did they change the season 3 set?

upper surge
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I think I was called mentally challenged once in holy paladin disord for asking about spending holy power on shield of the righteous

lucid olive
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you have to be more specific about what changes you're talking about

acoustic ridge
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why are balance druid bad atm? bad s3 tier set why are they in the bottom

safe kite
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Terrible base numbers

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as always

acoustic ridge
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alright

primal notch
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I thought it was a skill issue on my part

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I even feel the aoe being so much worse than in s2, im 10 ilvls higher and im tickling their feet

half sierra
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anyone have a problem with bartender i think where no-stance form uses the same bar as moonkin form bar?

maiden pasture
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how crazy is this neck bruv

royal zenith
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about 1%

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so not that great

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baited by big numby Classic

modern merlin
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The 20 second duration on Gathering Moonlight feels so bad

digital berry
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I don’t have 4p yet but I assume gathering moonlight doesn’t refresh duration if you get more stacks

pallid bay
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or RP

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or any other shit

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and if it dosnt you just end up in a situation where you need to dot 8 mobs

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but your stacks are running out

digital berry
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ouch

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very well thoguht out

jade flume
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@pallid bay hows ur shaman gearing going

fresh night
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Simming Azhiccaran trinket 710 ilvl vs my mug's moxie jug 671 ilvl, and its just a side grade. Does this make sense?

digital berry
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yes

fresh night
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What is the reasoning most likely, the crit vs haste?

digital berry
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do you have the new 4p?

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this season kotg doesnt want haste at all, and there is a lot more need for crit and vers

tame dome
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not sure about this opener, seems a bit complex to me

fresh night
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yea, got indeed 4p

tawny cloud
pseudo merlin
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Like it might get even more elaborate

tame dome
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yikes, I think if it got any more elaborate I'd have to reroll tbh

final sundial
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hey guys, do i craft anything with my 1 spark or wait to craft a staff?

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or should i cfraft bracers

lucid olive
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kind of depends if you can get other myth track weapon or the heroic voidglass 1h

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if not then you probably wait for next week and craft a staff

patent fog
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dĂĄ

rare ember
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hey there is there a possible macro for 2 talent points i always got that problem when i go to my single target spec that my tree Macro istn in my actionbar that i can have an macro for Fury and Trees where what ever i spect it switches 😉 i hope its understanding

queen tinsel
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Guys isnt Living Flame from TW a budget Araz?

tawny cloud
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Mine does it automatic. Whenever i switch specc it changes the action bars. If that what you mean

rare ember
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ye that dont work on my client i dont know why tho

lucid olive
rare ember
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is that also possible for trees and Fury of elune i always have that problem

digital berry
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dont you have different bars for ec and kotg?

rare ember
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that not working and i dont know why tho

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i ahte that

digital berry
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smth in the config of the talent loadout ex addon

lucid olive
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Change Warrior of Elune to Fury of Elune in the macro

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and change known:202425 to known:202770

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but also remember it might be weird if you're ever in a situation where you talent FoE as Keeper

digital berry
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Pray to the high heavens that won’t happen

rare ember
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thank u very mutch Gamz !!

celest narwhal
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So people been talking about crafting weapons and what not. If I pull myth track wep from vault. I take it? Or is crafted with that embellishment just better

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Because I know the Dagger off hand is a combo, but I didn’t see anything about just raw myth track wep

lucid olive
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you should prob just sim the myth track weapon vs the craft

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but likely if you grab myth track weap from vault it's better

celest narwhal
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Is our end goal for a weapon the 2 hand raid staff off mythic?

lucid olive
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for m+ probably

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for keeper in raid its probably voidglass kris + offhand

celest narwhal
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Cool

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I may just be more inclined to craft an off hand and roll with it. Of Atleast wait till I get the kris

nova ocean
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Are u expecting to get a mythic Kris soon or something

lucid olive
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heroic kris and crafted offhand can beat crafted staff

nova ocean
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O really

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I should have fought for that more

red nymph
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wtf no balance buffs?

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are we actually about to be bottom?

sleek briar
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i just finished few m+ aroun 9-11 and hool geez i can't kep up with bm hunt and evoker..

severe hollow
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time to close down the channel

serene quest
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wait is boomy meant to be bad

viral cliff
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Do it cowards close it for the reddit updoots

drifting nova
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I crank

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so skill issue

serene quest
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I've played a couple of keys as boomy to have a bit of a break from resto and this spec feels insanely busted

dense steeple
mighty mica
red nymph
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we were good in keys for a few days until everyone else got their new tier

winter spear
red nymph
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delusion is a hell of a drug

winter spear
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maybe just play the class 🙂

red nymph
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my evoker that is 20ilvl lower is doing almost the same amount of damage overall and im not as experienced on evo

winter spear
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that sounds sussy to your boomy then

velvet sentinel
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just because we're not meta so far doesnt mean boomie is bad, if you're being outdmged by another dps thats the same as us, thats on you

random fox
wild dune
random fox
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And almost same dps as my simmed dudu, no tier sets in priest, 4p last season on dudu

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It's gonna be so bad I might switch to priest 🙁

dense steeple
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People really coping

winter spear
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be happy that we arent op rn so u have fun for a few months instead of 2 weeks

plain fiber
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Some real self reporting going on here

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Boomy is fine

jade flume
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Be happy ur trash now so u wont be getting nerfed a bit later angel

velvet sentinel
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once RWF is over, they'll probably give us a nice ST buff like they did last patch

random fox
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Boomy is fine
...
For now

jade flume
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Boomy el garbonzo

lucid olive
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ew

full tundra
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ew x2

red nymph
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im just glad evoker claps while they figure out how to fix this shit

full tundra
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maybe we have shitty tierset, we suck at m+ and raid but at least moonfire seems bugged

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😎

frozen oak
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how to sim balance for keys?

mental plover
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what are yall running on m+, electric current or charged bolts

opaque kiln
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how massive is the 2pc, 4pc for boomies Season 3?

calm ibex
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In compendium

velvet sentinel
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massive, its like a 10% increase to go with both 2 pieces instead of sticking with S2's 4 piece

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8.6% according to the compendium, damn i was close

spark inlet
dapper wing
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Nah your probably fine

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Just continue working and gearing. 701 gear drops filling every slot

digital berry
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Its a waste of gold and time to worry about them when you have so much more gear obtainable

spark inlet
calm ibex
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Pref a stat one

spark inlet
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I have the haste and crit ones, im missing the other 2

calm ibex
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And Mastery

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And sim them

graceful ermine
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for our 4set what is our opener in raid ?

river adder
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hey, two noob questions that i don't see in FAQs anywhere:

  1. if i accidentally go into lunar eclipse in ST, is it still better to spam wrath or just do starfire for the eclipse bonus?
  2. does convoke always go into celestial alignment, or is it ok to use them separately?
sudden pawn
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Use starfire
You typically always want to convoke with celestial alignment

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Best way to avoid number 1 tho is to just get a decent eclipse tracker WA

river adder
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got it, thank you!

night gulch
maiden pasture
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can druid shift the mailroom root on hardmode

night gulch
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yes

sudden pawn
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Oh 1 target

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Ya that’s true

digital berry
digital berry
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What changed that

night gulch
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kotg opener

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it goes with trees now so you can send your buffed starsurges with the damage amp from harmony of the grove

digital berry
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I don’t understand how that’s relevant

night gulch
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what do you mean

digital berry
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Last season on 1t if we entered lunar by mistake we starfired

royal zenith
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you responded to a different msg than you think

night gulch
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oh yeah, that I don't know. I'm sure the TC's did some testing

digital berry
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Oh yeah

royal zenith
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the wrath in lunar eclipse is just a dps thing, numberswise

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the kotg opener changed cause tierset

jade flume
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Last season u wratheded in lunar too

royal zenith
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y

jade flume
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After some wrath buffs

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Iirc

digital berry
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Oh well I don’t make mistakes so I never had to wonder

royal zenith
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that's

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probably the most cringe thing I read today

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gg's

digital berry
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Your sarcasm reading skills are suboptimal

jade flume
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Same, thats why i dont play a bamkin

royal zenith
digital berry
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Fuck you got me

royal zenith
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can they actually start the race please

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I need to see COMPS

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(without druids lol)

digital berry
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Yeah these splits are tiring

drifting nova
royal zenith
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I have trust

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today it wont get worse

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right??

drifting nova
jade flume
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Same, thats why i dont play a bamkin

spark inlet
calm ibex
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Stat procs are generally better unless the damage proc is tuned very very well

scarlet tapir
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@vale pebble

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is this you

vale pebble
graceful ermine
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Hi for raid in keeper openere we do double incarn and after 2min we dounble again right >?

lofty depot
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the 2m ca/convoke u cant but at 430 yea

graceful ermine
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so the rotation with 2min trinket

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is 2min 2min

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right ?

lucid olive
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Yes

graceful ermine
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we not use incar and trees without convok

lofty depot
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well u dont use convoke without ca or trees

graceful ermine
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for boss 3 and 4

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how we can do 99 log's ?

calm ibex
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Play good

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Parses are per class

graceful ermine
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cuz i dont i should use starfall

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or no

stray abyss
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Question, trying to do topgear on raidbots but got; "Your spec does not support this fight style. Change the fight style under Simulation Options.". How am i then able to sim shit? :>

calm ibex
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If adds are up probably

stray abyss
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doing dungeon slice and added a new weapon (Staff of fractured spacetime)

calm ibex
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Dungeon slice doesn’t work for us

stray abyss
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oh..

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but Patchwork means only ST?

calm ibex
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Only patchwork

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No

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It means standing still and smashing a boss

stray abyss
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Patchwerk - 1 boss

calm ibex
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No

stray abyss
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10?

calm ibex
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Set different target counts

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Manually

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Patchwork in terms of raid bots is just little to no movement

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You can do a mdt sim

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If you want to sim a dungeon

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But that’s above my pay grade to explain

stray abyss
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haha

calm ibex
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Because I don’t know shit about it

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Lmao

stray abyss
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then i think patchwork is good enough for me xd

calm ibex
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Yup

lofty depot
round field
austere breach
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playing ec with 4set, do i ever wanna pool the set bonus charges during aoe by holding FoE or is it just better to send it on cd like in the prio list at whatever stacks you have at the moment

round field
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probably follow prio list

dire osprey
real sable
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anyone having aggro issues? i keep pulling aggro in keys. not sure if its just the tanks

dire osprey
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yea same

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i get aggro from mobs i didnt even apply dots to yet

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after they have been avenger shielded by the prot pala

tight dagger
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Question: Whats the best way to cleave.

There is a Boss, that spawn 2-3 adds, but they just live like 10sec.

You spread Any dot on them? You use Starfall? Or you just dot and stay on Starsurge?

cunning basin
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What is the ilvl requirement for +2 mythics

tawny cloud
real sable
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whats up with it?

tawny cloud
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no idea. also randomly pulled aggro off 1 of the twin bosses in Floodgate even though tank said he had like 4k% aggro on him

lofty depot
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Like soulbinder adds are pretty fake

wheat grove
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Hey guys quick question, I'm sure it has been asked, is it worth having 2-bonus from Undermine and 2 from Manaforge over 4 from Undermine?

lofty depot
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2p2p is good

wheat grove
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Thanks!

signal cave
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What was the sim to go for blance for top gear? 1min 5 patchwork?

signal cave
plush obsidian
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first time raiding on boomie, did only m+ last season and used duskthread for my embellishments.
will probably go ascendance for raid, do u guys eventually craft a set of both for raid and m+ or is ascendance ok in m+?
not sure if duskthread is essential for the higher keys

golden belfry
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Duskthread if you're pushing

lucid olive
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weapon craft with ascendance is good early in the season for both content

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but you get dinar in 11.2.5 in like 5-6 weeks and can buy a myth track weapon and craft 2x dawnthread/duskthread if you wish

upper surge
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If I cast wrath out of moonkin but I have fluid form does the spell benefit from moonkin passives? Visuals make it a bit confusing

lucid olive
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no

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it used to when fluid form shifted you at the start of the cast, but that was changed in 11.1

upper surge
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So I guess not spending a gcd getting into form elevated boomy to n.1 dps in both raid and m+

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So they had to nerf it

lucid olive
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"shifting should always cost you a gcd" blah blah #FRICTION

upper surge
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Does it cost you a gcd if you're catweaving?

lucid olive
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cats dont live by regular rules

upper surge
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Neither do bears I assume

lofty depot
minor anchor
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Could I ask for the Dryad tracking WA? Only time of the dryad is up is good.

lofty depot
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copy it fron there or use the pack cuz its better

minor anchor
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yes thank you

warm flint
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Guys, is 2pc 2pc the way we go?

lofty depot
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is good

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u can sim it

worldly spruce
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does anyone knows if the starsurge from ec 2P procs harmony of the heavens ?

lucid oriole
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for those who were looking for a good aura of dryad update luxthos ones it tracks it well

lucid olive
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luxthOMEGALULs

lofty depot
gentle patio
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since when does he update his packs during the expansion?

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luxthos I mean

tight dagger
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why you cast 2x Starsurge into Trees ??

jaunty blaze
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so you delay trees to line up with your buffed starsurges from the dryad

fallen smelt
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how many seconds of sunfire / moonfire uptime does it need to have before it's worth it to dot up additional targets ? is there a clear cut amount or ? i'm talking both from the aspect of funneling for starsurge, and for AOE starfall

lofty depot
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"how many seconds of sunfire / moonfire uptime does it need to have before it's worth it to dot up additional targets" isnt how u justify dotting

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u dot additional mobs if they live long enough

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also thats not what funnel means

meager storm
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do NOT play kotg on pugs

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u will rip aggro from every tank

lofty depot
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what if i rip aggro already

meager storm
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even worse

fallen smelt
lofty depot
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read the prio

fallen smelt
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thank you ❤️

tight dagger
tender elbow
# lofty depot

Arctic saving lives, but slowly losing sanity 🤣

dense lake
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They added some cool shit with hero talents and new talents, but i just can';t find balance as fun as before without pulsar.

The choice node between sundered and orbit is also not enjoyable as you could get both before

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Also, balance needs a bigger astral power pool

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This goes for a lot of specs though

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But especially for balance

jaunty blaze
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So you have 2 seconds overlap with trees after it fades

lofty depot
snow elm
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Blizz could fix all this by making trees 12 seconds

night gulch
jaunty blaze
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Imagine having all of your cds line up

nova ocean
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Please rework in midnight

lucid blade
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So in lower keys like 4s Keeper is gonna be better than elunes chosen?

harsh herald
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I feel like things would die before you get to use the buffed star surges at +4

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Mobs are at half life by the time I'm done dotting in 7s and 8s

lucid blade
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Yea I haven't even tried it for that very reason.

tight dagger
night gulch
lucid olive
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that shit stinks

meager storm
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why os whirling too good for m+

lucid olive
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fun

meager storm
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fair

lucid olive
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os insta resets foe on bigger pulls

meager storm
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thats whatever with the new set

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u kinda want some stacks for 2nd ca

lucid olive
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can do like

hollow sparrow
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Do we use forge on our first CA or with second CA before the dryad starsurges? (and then what do we do for 2nd forge?)

meager storm
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first

lucid olive
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FOE -> CA -> 3-5 Starfires -> FoE

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if you lucky proc youre swimming

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are you turbo stacked yet dak

dapper wing
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Always slam trinket for your Convoke window'ed dryad

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giga buff that shit

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the more I play EC with the tier set the more I enjoy it, ngl lol

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The feeling of instant stacking starlord Chefs kiss

jaunty blaze
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It do be kinda nice

meager storm
lucid olive
lofty depot
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704 weapon 👀

meager storm
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not wasting gilded till next week

dapper wing
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You don't enjoy EC tier for m+? Gamz

lucid olive
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wait

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wrong reply

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oh well

meager storm
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alright

dapper wing
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lol

lofty depot
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i didnt say anything about wasting gilded

lucid olive
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Dak sucks too

meager storm
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what about the weapy then

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pretty easy to farm

jaunty blaze
lofty depot
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goated delve ring?

meager storm
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halls and gambit have a lot of gear u need

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u get them naturally

lucid olive
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i haven't got shit from there tbh

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i did like 15 floodgates and now i'm gonna sit in eco dome rest of the week

dapper wing
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The fucking Big Mama necklace

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is fucked

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Can't wait to live there till I get it

lofty depot
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type shit

lucid olive
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eco dome has legs, shoulders and trinket

jaunty blaze
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Got it first run

lucid olive
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floodgate has head, shoulders and neck

jaunty blaze
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😎

dapper wing
#

Necklace and rings down bad

lucid olive
#

notice how he intentionally cropped out his ilvl

dapper wing
#

It's 699.96

#

I hate it, it's not 700 yet

lucid olive
#

notice how he has bloatware addon

lofty depot
#

oh hand crafter hm

dapper wing
#

Hey, I like my bloatware

lucid olive
dapper wing
#

oh pawn

#

I don't use that shit at all

#

lol

#

I think I've just had it since like wod and just haven't gotten rid of it

#

Wod or legion

lucid olive
#

i love having addons that never get used

#

then i wonder why i lag in 30man raid and figure it has to be blizzard fault

dapper wing
#

lol, kinda just remove raider.io for raid and I'm usually fine

lucid olive
#

yeah that addon is bloatware too

dapper wing
#

Yeah Rio fucking TANKS you

#

Also crafted offhand was a drunken mistake

#

Waking up to that today was fun

lucid olive
#

meh

dapper wing
#

It's not that bad

#

But I should of saved till tuesday

lucid olive
#

i crafted offhand too

#

doubt it will matter

dapper wing
#

Like heroic kris + offhand is only a few thousand dps off of crafted 2hander

jaunty blaze
#

Just pretend you dont see the 2hand in vault next week

dapper wing
#

yeah

#

Just completely wiped from memory

#

Not that

dapper wing
#

Here you go gamz

#

Pawn is gone

lucid olive
#

big

pseudo merlin
#

how do you unlock LFR?

dapper wing
#

Ilvl?

#

Get the cloak

pseudo merlin
#

677

#

oh cloak

#

right

#

please tell me alts can insta claim it

dapper wing
#

yes

#

Just fly over to the cloak island

#

talk to the guy and he will give you a cloak with full main power

pseudo merlin
#

can i just port to TV?

dapper wing
#

should

pseudo merlin
#

big

dapper wing
#

Damn, 200k behind

lucid olive
#

think you gotta do like "accept quest, talk to person, person opens portal, complete quest" to get the TV portal

dapper wing
#

Yeah, then fly over and say you lost your cloak

pseudo merlin
#

no I have the TV portal from like 7 years ago

lucid olive
#

wrong tazavesh

#

the SL dungeon portals is a different zone

pseudo merlin
#

ITS NOT CONNECTED?

#

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

dapper wing
#

hahaha

pseudo merlin
#

so TV is like in the afterlife

#

wtf

pseudo merlin
fossil shard
pseudo merlin
maiden pasture
#

no gloves or weppy

meager storm
#

is that halls

#

i got weapon and hands back to back

maiden pasture
maiden pasture
#

im in jail

#

need dawnb ring tho

dapper wing
#

I can't complain about not getting my necklace, only done 6 floodyg's so far

#

I'll complain at 15+

maiden pasture
#

4set tomorrow mayb my droptimiser changes

covert coyote
#

raidbots still showing 2% on the 4 piece, is that just a tooltip error?

maiden pasture
#

never trust tooltips

covert coyote
#

aight true

dapper wing
#

It should be 3% but yeah

#

tooltips lie to you

#

constantly

pseudo merlin
#

why does this game hate me

obsidian tapir
#

keeper of the grove is broken we do not need buff we need nerf

maiden pasture
#

notice how ur still bottom of overall

dapper wing
#

yeah

#

lol

#

Overall at the end of the key

obsidian tapir
dapper wing
#

Also afflock being ON your ass

#

even after your 2 starsurges

obsidian tapir
#

my lock is on roids thou

dire osprey
#

does anyone have like a timer wa for 4p?

dire osprey
lofty depot
#

u can copy it or use the pack cuz its better

dire osprey
#

ty

obsidian tapir
#

thats overall

stuck quartz
#

is this enough haste guys I can't tell

mighty minnow
#

is it worth it 2p + 2p? our should keep 4p from s2

exotic perch
#

usually 2p2p is better

steel light
#

Did they nerfed the Araz Trinket? it doenst sims good now 3 days ago it was on heroic track 2.4% upgrade now -0,1% downgrade

craggy sonnet
#

they did nerf it during patch downtime

#

but shouldnt be that significant

loud kettle
#

small nerf though yea

#

and 3 days ago had it anyway i think?

exotic perch
#

it was like 10% i think

loud kettle
#

5%

#

antenna was 3%

#

light slaps

lofty depot
#

sooooooooo u should link sim

exotic perch
#

praise the light

loud kettle
#

its 170k for my character rn

#

need...

craggy sonnet
#

hmmrmrm .. didnt get around to testing trinket usage

lofty depot
#

lock in

craggy sonnet
#

kinda feel like hitting it the gcd after treants could be better for us

loud kettle
#

pug raids are so bad man, dps was too low to kill first boss (the shield kills the entire raid)

craggy sonnet
#

on what diff?

loud kettle
#

Heroic

lofty depot
craggy sonnet
#

does it decay linearly?

#

but also its more about the 2nd dryad cap

lofty depot
#

1147 each time

#

so i lied its 24k

#

big

craggy sonnet
#

?

#

what does each time mean

lofty depot
#

every sec u lose 1147

craggy sonnet
#

ok

#

so thats like 4.5k less int

#

on every dryad like

#

if you surge surge fon trinket surge/convoke

lofty depot
#

this isnt resto

manic belfry
craggy sonnet
#

nice didnt even finish reading

#

anyways

#

was initially thinking about the trinket stuff more for like signet

#

20s duration is just enough to carry it through the 2nd CA starting from treants

modest orchid
#

why instead of nerfing us a few percent did they nerf us by 80

lofty depot
#

it wasnt 80 but shrug they got scared of the power

viral cliff
#

had an absolute Dentge move. went into M+ raid spec
went huh wheere the fuck is typhoon and M+ damage

maiden pasture
#

its not even that bad tbh

#

i did like 5.5m overall in a floodgate in st build

#

the annoying part is dots not extending honestly

delicate perch
#

5.5 in flood sounds kinda bad tho

steel light
viral cliff
#

with no typhoon

#

no interupts other than meme beam

#

its cursed as fuck

pseudo merlin
#

this thing any good

meager storm
#

isnt that for resto

pseudo merlin
#

boomie too

meager storm
#

not for boomy

#

u need to do direct healing

#

wait

#

wrong one

pseudo merlin
#

nah

meager storm
#

alright

pseudo merlin
#

youre thinking of a dif one

meager storm
pseudo merlin
#

discord wtf

meager storm
#

idk sim it it was dogsht for me

pseudo merlin
#

got the voidglass staff too

#

from lfr

#

big yoinkers

digital berry
#

we are so back

lofty depot
#

MASSSSSSIVE

gentle scaffold
#

thats insane

lofty depot
#

thats 2p2p 🙂

gentle scaffold
#

im 2p2p 690 getting no where near that

lofty depot
#

im 700

#

with hero araz

gentle scaffold
#

that makes sense

#

xd

lofty depot
#

🙂

gentle scaffold
#

did you not craft this week?

#

im looking at your armory, might be missing something

delicate perch
#

Craft what OMEGAKEKW

gentle scaffold
#

should I have not recrafted my bracers ;-;

pseudo merlin
#

what are you crafting?

#

LOL WHAT

#

why would you do that

lofty depot
#

u should not have crafted bracers no

gentle scaffold
#

FUCK

delicate perch
pseudo merlin
#

its ok just start a new char

lofty depot
#

i dont have 4p

#

i didnt get tier in vault

pseudo merlin
#

how do you not have 4p ?

delicate perch
pseudo merlin
#

lmao

#

idiot

lofty depot
#

but i was gonna go look at that

#

cuz mushroom bagns

delicate perch
#

Nahhhh

lofty depot
#

bruv

pseudo merlin
#

what did oi do ?

gentle scaffold
lofty depot
delicate perch
lofty depot
#

bracers can be crafted after....

#

alsoooooooooooooo

pseudo merlin
#

2p2p is big loss for me

delicate perch
#

When you could craft a weapon (the biggest) next week

lofty depot
#

i think its likely im going to craft bracer but with enchated rune crest

viral cliff
#

32 deaths in a +10 ara kara WeirdChamp

gentle scaffold
pseudo merlin
#

The problem with bracers is that it has super low stat budget and embellishments on it dont benefit from ilv

lofty depot
#

wel u only craft oh if u get a mythic track weapon or hero kris

#

otherwise u craft staff

gentle scaffold
#

ahhh

lofty depot
#

then OH later for mythic kris

gentle scaffold
#

I am impatient then I fear

viral cliff
#

so if no Kris from raid or vault go to weapon craft? otherwise craft OH?

lofty depot
#

this tier we dont need many crafted items cuz of all the other bs items

delicate perch
#

Taking it from vault sounds sus but I haven’t simmed differences

lofty depot
delicate perch
#

Hero dagger and oh lost to staff for me but I did literally one sim so

lofty depot
#

but again, depends on ur vault and ability to get a myth weapon

gentle scaffold
lofty depot
#

or mythc plux mace 😛

#

but yea

delicate perch
#

Just double ascendancy weapons pog

gentle scaffold
#

damn, should have consulted here first

lofty depot
#

always

gentle scaffold
#

im new to the whole optimization thing, been very casual up until this point

pseudo merlin
#

btw its not the end of the world

#

lol

gentle scaffold
#

I figured, im not stressing

delicate perch
#

It’s actually over

gentle scaffold
#

a little dps loss never hurt nobody (this is my downfall)

delicate perch
#

Just make a new Druid

gentle scaffold
#

already boosted a new one

pseudo merlin
#

make it a different spec this time

delicate perch
#

class*

pseudo merlin
#

even better

#

something purple

#

wait there's class specific reshi wrap mogs?

#

nvm its tier lookalike

mental plover
#

do you guys like more charged bolts or electric current for m+

grand niche
#

I have the raid dagger but man it’s proc rate is doodoo

dapper wing
mental plover
#

yeah i simmed current vs bolts on 1 tar 5 minutes i just didnt knew how it would look for dungs

#

since uptime and procs and stuff

dapper wing
#

I play haste but tbh you get rid of it pretty fast this season

steady rain
#

Why does everyone shit on tettles online he seems really knowledgeable and like he wants to help

exotic perch
#

since shadowlands the meta has been shit on boomkins

#

people really like recycling old material

#

kinda like joe rogan

pseudo merlin
#

I never thought Rogan was any good as comedian

#

Not a single laugh ever

full sleet
gray bluff
#

anyone else sim's leaning toward crit?

exotic perch
lofty depot
full sleet
exotic perch
#

it would take rogan a bit to tap me out i can criticize him

full sleet
#

I miss when he has interesting guests on

viral cliff
#

meta is shifting to shit on rets and bolas slowly anyways

pseudo merlin
#

He should get Bobby Kotick on

potent cargo
#

bobby shmurda

#

the only bobby i recognize

blazing thicket
#

whats with the pin

dapper wing
#

People shit on Tettles because he's like. The public figure head of boomkin, and people hate boomkin

blazing thicket
#

balance seems strong is it not

dapper wing
#

laugh Strong this person says

#

Also it's because of the Ret paladin thing

blazing thicket
#

its my off spec but it feels strong? like i solo'd the rare mob in tazavash that has 170mill hp by myself in like 15 seconds

dapper wing
#

You have a damage buff on that

#

By alot

blazing thicket
#

oh

#

damn. i rly felt strong. now i dont lol

dapper wing
#

Pretty poor st damage in raid

#

bottom quartile

blazing thicket
#

ill prob get my guild to let me boomy next week. theres nothing to heal rn so its boring

#

ill see how it is, it didnt seem terrible at the end of last tier tho?

dapper wing
#

We are "fine" in M+. I'm a boomkin believer for keys but some people are down bad

blazing thicket
#

its me, im prob down bad.

dapper wing
#

Play what you enjoy, if you enjoy boomkin paly it

#

Not a rwf or a top 20 guild player, nor pushing title keys. Who cares, play for fun

blazing thicket
#

had 3 boomkins for mythic stix, i was the top, and one of the top dps, thought i did good, then saw the parses, i was like 16 percentile, the other 2 was lower. guessing we just had to much aoe for me to parse

#

dont need to be in a top 20 guild to want a decent spec lol

#

my guild hit US 80 this week, tho we only had 1 raid day so far, so im sure we lost that by now. 2 days left tho. we got no boomys or ferals (wish i had innervates for healing)

dapper wing
#

Stix was impossible to parse on tbh

lofty depot
pseudo merlin
#

do people actually look at things like US and EU only rankings?

dapper wing
#

If you weren't there early you weren't getting your parse since melee blender just killed everything

#

Yes

#

top 100 for HoF shit

pseudo merlin
#

I haven't heard anyone say "US only" since blood legion was a thing

dapper wing
#

This early, not really

pseudo merlin
#

Are EU and US fairly well matched up against eachother?

#

I feel like we aren't

blazing thicket
#

their econamy is diff so i feel like its unfair to compare the same. with wow tokens diff price, how can we compare

pseudo merlin
#

what?

#

That's the craziest thing I've ever heard

#

What on earth does economy have to do with raid prog

dapper wing
#

We have the best guild in the world in NA

#

Overall

#

who knows?

pseudo merlin
#

like we were 200 EU 300 world in undermine

#

so 200 out of the 300 were eu

dapper wing
#

The leaderboards are kinda like off and on US, EU, KR, CN

#

Just randomly

pseudo merlin
#

For some reason I completely forgot about KR and CN

#

wowprogress includes those right

dapper wing
#

Top 10 last tier

pseudo merlin
#

2 US 5 EU 1 KR 2 CN

#

Mate feels like it doesn't fit KR at all

normal pilot
#

nah makes perfect sense

dapper wing
#

KR quite often uses english names in gamer tags and clans

normal pilot
#

why would you waste time on a non-competitive game like wow if you were in KR

dapper wing
#

Just like we often use korean names

normal pilot
#

when there are far far better competitive games to play

pseudo merlin
#

Yeah they're too busy playing real games

dapper wing
#

Like star craft

blazing thicket
#

i miss starcraft

#

played the origonal from ages 11 to 15 so much. best game of its time

pseudo merlin
#

never played

#

i played command and conquer though, it's similar right?

dapper wing
#

I enjoyed sc community games

#

the customs I think those still run

blazing thicket
#

Very few but yah, i checked back a year ago last

#

I used to play map settings games almost exclusively

#

Any type of game you wanted, so good. tower defense, RPGs, roleplays, even dragon ball z storyline games. literally anything showed up lol

jaunty cliff
#

guys, which is the best training dummy to test ST rotations? does it make any difference between the dummies in dornogal? like raiders, or dungeoneers any of them are the best to test dmg for m+ targets?

lucid olive
#

There is also a ST one in Belameth next to a house

drifting nova
#

so whens streets just getting deleted from the pool

pseudo merlin
#

wdymn

drifting nova
#

bad dungeon

pseudo merlin
#

they added 2 whole minutes to the timer

#

problem solved

drifting nova
#

even without the time issue

#

the bosses are antithetical to a timed mode

#

like halls of valor

#

with the 15years of rp

pseudo merlin
#

ok but you realise that they just decide on a timer and then probably add the time of the RP on top of that right

drifting nova
#

which fixes the time problem

#

not the it being balls problem

pseudo merlin
#

idk I like it

dapper wing
#

It's defo my least favorite this pool, bosses just kinda suck lol

#

Last boss has such a high chance of just cucking you for kicks

drifting nova
#

didnt know as I didnt play at the time

#

it was a 39 timer in sl

pseudo merlin
#

was it

#

Ive only run it a few times

drifting nova
#

reddit would NOT lie to me

pseudo merlin
#

I feel like it should be 39 now lol

drifting nova
#

5bosses just makes it feel bad too idk

pseudo merlin
#

but that's an ilv 684 opinion

drifting nova
#

4 is the sweet spot

pseudo merlin
#

idk

#

Do people really hate bosses that much

#

I don't get it personally

drifting nova
#

did see someone say the deplete rate was like 50%

#

but idk where they got that from

pseudo merlin
#

I like 5

#

I'd take 6

#

I care more about time than bosses

#

Compensate for the extra bosses with lower trash

drifting nova
#

more bosses more time per dungeon

pseudo merlin
#

Yeah so you don't want less bosses

#

You want less time

drifting nova
#

no, you do

#

blizzard does

#

it's the tiktok attention span era

pseudo merlin
#

?

#

30 minutes is 30 minutes

#

why not have an extra boss

drifting nova
#

long dungeons have historically been..bad

#

hov being the easiest example

pseudo merlin
#

ok you're still arguing for length

#

like timewise

drifting nova
#

which is dictated by boss number

pseudo merlin
drifting nova
#

3boss dungeons are shorter timers

dapper wing
#

30 minute dungeons are fine.

pseudo merlin
#

Give me a 30 minute dungeon with 10 bosses

drifting nova
#

sure, no trash

pseudo merlin
#

Give me violet hold but we open every prison cell

drifting nova
#

the miniboss sucks in streets too

dapper wing
#

Well. God didn't like what I typed

#

I hit enter and lightning hit my place and my power went out

drifting nova
dapper wing
#

Lol

pseudo merlin
drifting nova
#

as mucha sI want the old dungeons repurposed

#

they are old dungeons with linear pathing

#

like utgarde would be cool

#

but it's again..linear

#

you cant route

#

(not that I care for routing)

#

I dont think the average keyer cares for it much either

#

fill bar up, done

viral cliff
#

anyone have a rebirth macro that works for mouse over?

dapper wing
#

If I had access to my pc yes

drifting nova
#

[@cursor] tada done

dapper wing
#

But God didn't like my comment about timers

drifting nova
#

probably want a cancel in there

#

and friendly

viral cliff
#

need to fix my shit. got dunked on overall in a 9 floodgate haHAAA Sadge

dapper wing
#

Oof

viral cliff
#

like trash I do fine
other than when a devoker pops in and opens with 30k KEKL

#

not 30k fuck brain fried

dapper wing
#

Damn

#

Those devokers suck

#

Doing s1 df damage

viral cliff
#

done too much keys today im Dentge I just need to get better but man

drifting nova
pseudo merlin
#

kekkers do you have a local fried chicken shop

drifting nova
#

uhh

#

like kfc?

pseudo merlin
#

Or do you only eat at the chippy

dapper wing
#

Tbh just practice rotation on dummies lol

pseudo merlin
#

Not KFC mate

#

Are you even bri ish

drifting nova
#

is that not fried

#

it's in the name, you donkey

pseudo merlin
#

That's not a local chicken shop innit

#

Fucking hell

drifting nova
#

I mean it's close to me

#

SELECT THE PARAMETERS BETTER

#

you couldnt select a radio box properly smh

pseudo merlin
#

Everyone I know in the UK has like a random local fried chicken shop where you can eat your fill for like a fiver MAX

#

It's crazy

drifting nova
#

..in london sure

pseudo merlin
#

That a London thing?

#

I'd assume london would be more expensive being london and all

drifting nova
#

sure but theres alot of them

#

there was a guy that did vids

#

multiple actually but only 1 I remember

pseudo merlin
#

The chicken connoisseur?

drifting nova
#

uhhh..yeah

#

the pengest munch

pseudo merlin
#

Fucking legend that kid

#

Yeah

drifting nova
#

still at it, wow

#

10years of chicken

#

but no, not specificallya chicken shop

#

maybe the kebab place has some idk

#

seem to have everything nowadays

#

even pizzas

pseudo merlin
#

crazy

#

what do you usually get if you go out for some food or order in

drifting nova
#

brotherman

#

I do not

#

did try popeyes last year for the first time tho

#

not bad

pseudo merlin
#

What's that

#

Spinach in a can?

drifting nova
#

no, chicken

#

kfc but not kentucky

#

louisanian

#

I think

pseudo merlin
#

Pretty sure you're in the UK mate

drifting nova
#

psst never even had a curry

#

am I really british

nocturne seal
#

can you not use flight form for the flying phase in dimensius boss?

drifting nova
#

no one knows

pseudo merlin
#

No shot

pseudo merlin
#

High five if you died to that shit

torpid skiff
#

Is there any reason to do taza hardmode (not deathless) if you clear 10s this week thinkat1
Is there anything worthwhile there

nocturne seal
#

👏

pseudo merlin
#

Read kekkers

nocturne seal
#

why blizzard hates driuds

drifting nova
#

you think I know what ilvl shit is

#

I've only done 2s

torpid skiff
#

10s is 701

pseudo merlin
#

There's no reason afaik

ocean knoll
#

Don’t you get loot from each boss in hard mode

#

Not just a chest at ends

torpid skiff
#

Wasnt taza hero 1/X

#

So lower ilvl

drifting nova
#

so how do you get manaforge vandal rep

#

is it just do the raid

pseudo merlin
#

isnt that just the new battlepass

#

for raid

drifting nova
#

yes

#

I didnt play last season

pseudo merlin
#

take a guess then

drifting nova
pseudo merlin
#

its just time gated rep from raid bosses and raid mini bosses

#

or elite mobs whatever

drifting nova
#

holy it was cheap back then

pseudo merlin
#

yeah

#

like 2 quid

#

you get a fucking meal

drifting nova
#

fiver for a meal, easily 10 almost 15 now

pseudo merlin
#

I remember paying 2.50 for a whopper

drifting nova
#

last time I got fish and chips was like 18

pseudo merlin
#

WHAT

#

Brother I make fish and chips for myself at home for a month for 18

drifting nova
#

I guess like 15, got a sausage too

#

but still

pseudo merlin
#

course you did

drifting nova
#

gotta get that jumbo sausage

pseudo merlin
#

cant relate

drifting nova
#

almost a fish cake too but that was like 5 by itself

pseudo merlin
#

wait those are real?

drifting nova
#

yeah, loved them as a kid

pseudo merlin
#

I thought that was just a Gielinor thing

lucid olive
#

Fish cake with brown sauce and potatoes

#

Mmmm

drifting nova
#

actually never had ..fish from chip shop now

lucid olive
#

Man I should make that this week been too long

drifting nova
#

really arent british huh

lucid olive
#

Fish and chips is incredibly popular in my hometown

#

It was like the first town in Norway started selling it so it has strong tradition