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#balance
past tide
loud kettle
Anyone else gonna be gonna be golden?
past tide
Nahhh that shit is cring
pallid bay
NA performance
pallid bay
how did you end up with a 29m gambit
lofty depot
Melee die to fire
Wcyd
Oh and the final boss DC'd my whole party
3 times
Idk what happen, it might have been when the servers were dying Tuesday. But straight 10% boss. The stars explode and dc
lucid olive
how did you end up with a 29m gambit
EU pugs go crazy
lofty depot
Everyone but me, curious enough they all live in LA, so it's a them problem.
pallid bay
EU pugs go crazy
pugging is crazy
lucid olive
i was about to get leaver symbol next to my name day 1 of the season
lofty depot
on the first week
Some of us need to farm priory for 70 runs
lucid olive
who farms it for trinket..
strange edge
Farming Prio is just a nightmare
lucid olive
i did it twice and got signet and the ring..
sudden pawn
i wanna get 3k cause im already close
13 priory changed me
hair on chest
10x more depressed
pallid bay
do you get anything at 3k
sudden pawn
a mount or some shit
useless slop\
but im already close so might as well nothing else to do till next raid day
dont say touch grass
digital berry
You got no more pieces to farm?
sudden pawn
nah nothing needed from m0s
could use a helm for free upgrades
but other than that nothing
pallid bay
i need a bunch of pieces but 
sudden pawn
m+
sorry
also i cant seem to replace jastors
a few heroic rings off the AH can but by like 300 dps
not worth
gentle scroll
How many heroic wrists have you guys dropped by now?
lofty depot
i did it twice and got signet and the ring..
I have Araz, I need the ring
And weapon for that matter maybe
pallid bay
based
pallid bay
you have so many pieces locked in
digital berry
4 piece, cape, belt for now probably, 2 embellishments
next pilot
- boots from raid too
maiden pasture
is the control bug still a thing btw
pallid bay
presumably
strange edge
Embellishments are a blight. No embellishment season.
lofty depot
is the control bug still a thing btw
I will always assume if control is talented, it's bugged and I will never trust them.
lofty depot
do we play around gathering moonlight now or
Not sure, think gamz was talking about it and just sending it.
lucid olive
do we play around gathering moonlight now or
just send foe whenever really
leaden birch
I feel like I hit like a wet noodle in m+
lucid olive
only thing is if you have FoE ready and your stacks will fall off you send regardless of when
lofty depot
I feel like I hit like a wet noodle in m+
I'm blasting
I had a 12m Starfire yesterday
Pepwpepepeppew
spiral star
warlock still beats us easily 
lucid olive
like if you go between packs with 4pc stacks up and they'll fall off you just send the FoE before you start dotting
leaden birch
I gotta track it
lucid olive
leaden birch
tyvm
light seal
i feel its prety good still m+ . i mean i got schooled by a assa rogue doing 8mil over all. but otherwise been feeling like an adult
lucid olive
you dont do 8m overall?
light seal
o do 6.5-7 mostly in 10s.
lucid olive
think i was sitting at over 9m overall in gambit earlier
light seal
im 685
lucid olive
get yo ilvl up my dawg
light seal
stoped last season at 664
nothing drops
only trinkets
also guild mates are on a cottage retreat :D.. so we raid on monday and tues day
no raid loot yet
digital berry
Ok but these pug tanks pull one pack at a time you won’t get huge overalls like that unless your tank is psychotic
light seal
most of my tanks have been prety good pulls.
only had 2 tanks DC just before last boss today
alot of people seem to have some lagg or dc issues
and heard more than one complane about error spam
royal zenith
https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet
this says 10.2 btw 
@pallid bay
pallid bay
royal zenith
did you just update it..
pallid bay
royal zenith
well too bad
cause I have receipts
BOOOOOOOOOM
good wa though
very happy with this
lucid olive
the original dreamstate tracker..
leaden birch
think i was sitting at over 9m overall in gambit earlier
I just did a 9 gambit and things died too quickly 
royal zenith
yeah anything below 11 is already pretty oof
if you play with classes/people that have hands
stuck meadow
mythic waiting room or
lofty depot
Ok but these pug tanks pull one pack at a time you won’t get huge overalls like ...
Oopsieee, I pulled extra
lofty depot
if you play with classes/people that have hands
Fort level 10 smh
lucid olive
if you play with classes/people that have hands
you just gotta have bigger hands
royal zenith
like 3 meters?
pallid bay
mythic waiting room or
694 helmet chest..
winter sable
so what embellishment are we using this time around for bracers? ive seen on line a couple different things? or are we holding out for weps?
lofty depot
Asc + writhing
sudden pawn
mythic waiting room or
i havent even sent upgrades and im higher...
lofty depot
There are options so, it depends on ur crafts and vaults
lofty depot
i havent even sent upgrades and im higher...
Gyatt
stray abyss
May I ask, is there a change to last seasons specs for ST raid, Cleave raid and m+?
lofty depot
No
stray abyss
Amazing!
lofty depot
U change some talents for Araz
stray abyss
oh
lofty depot
But just like every raid depends on fight
winter sable
Asc + writhing
lol uhm whats Asc?
next pilot
ascendance
winter sable
ascendance
thank you
stuck meadow
i havent even sent upgrades and im higher...
need chest and head still
uneven magnet
are the ulduar trinkets still worth trying to get after the nerf?
lofty depot
Yea the chance to get a possible item, + yogg. Also u can sim them. They nerfed a few good ones yesterday so just go sim them
Liquid wiping to yogg
ope maybe they kill lol
earnest sage
should I still craft wrist, if I got that?
lofty depot
Sim it
earnest sage
I ain't got no 720 wrist now to sim and compare
lofty depot
Go to top gear and search the item
calm ibex
lofty depot
We have the technology
lofty depot
Did u do what I said
earnest sage
ty
lofty depot
We have the technology
normal pilot
hm haha i guess they forgot to update taza portal to require m10 and not m20
indigo island
I need help. Should I swap house of cards for the Priory (701) trinket in M+? Single Target sims higher but i dont know in aoe
wraith yew
lofty depot
I need help. Should I swap house of cards for the Priory (701) trinket in M+? Si...
U could likely sim a funny sim 5t1m thingy and see, it's likely better tho
indigo island
U could likely sim a funny sim 5t1m thingy and see, it's likely better tho
ok i try ty
red nymph
RIP plater
lofty depot
ascendance?
When u craft 2h or OH ye
wooden latch
I tried keepers in a key and was reviewing the Dreamgrove AOE keeper rotation. Is it really more efficient to line-up CA/Trees in AOE versus delay to overlap Trees & Dryad Surges like in ST?
scarlet tapir
can you solo vault already
junior thicket
im getting declined to +7 keys
all day
and people wont join my key
people be too focusing on tierlist i think
lofty depot
I tried keepers in a key and was reviewing the Dreamgrove AOE keeper rotation. I...
Well u would likely delay trees like u would in ST
Doubt u would double incarn... But idk what they've done for it tbf
wooden latch
Well u would likely delay trees like u would in ST
I thought the same, was just curious if someone knew differently and that's why it was prio'd that way. Thanks!
lofty depot
It's just an assumption that buffing said surges is better
ripe magnet
im getting declined to +7 keys
timed few 10s rest +6 can i get an inv to anything...................no
tettles fault for sure
lofty depot
I prefer tettles ranking
round oracle
tettles fault for sure
what ilvl
theres so much people applying with crazy ilvls already just targeting something theyre missing :D a bit hard to justify taking someone with inferior ilvl
junior thicket
timed few 10s rest +6 can i get an inv to anything...................no
idk man its kinda annoying haha im at 690 ilvl and my season 2 rio wasnt too bad aswell. 3568 but still crazy declines
round oracle
yes it is
ripe magnet
idk man its kinda annoying haha im at 690 ilvl and my season 2 rio wasnt too bad...
damn
round oracle
theres many 695 applying with you
junior thicket
One question, in the screenshot it says to use CA again after the dryade fades to dump the empowered starsurge. But when i did on dummies, i still had a couple seconds of my CA left to dump 2 starsurges. Is there a reason to why use 2nd CA ?
i do moonfire>sunfire>CA>starsurge>starsurge>FoN>CtS>SS>SS
and theres still couple seconds left in the 1st CA so im kind of confused
lucid olive
One question, in the screenshot it says to use CA again after the dryade fades t...
because your treants will run out
it's also 2 seconds left on treants when dryad dies
junior thicket
so i cast CA in the 1st ca window without letting in run out?
lucid olive
yes
junior thicket
or do i let it run out and do couple wraths?
lucid olive
when the dryad dies you press CA again and dump the 2 starsurges inside your treant window and fully stacked boat window
junior thicket
ahhh okay now i understand
because it gets very tight
with the treants
cool thank you !
timber hedge
Question: So in M+ should I be sending FoE on CD or wait for 6 stacks of Gathering Moonlight with 4p. I want to keep CDs rolling but it feels bad not having 24% extra dmg.
lofty depot
Well u should be using foe with ur CDs, but yea generally u send for on gcd
junior thicket
1 more question. we wrath after convoke till dryad runs out ?
junior thicket
alright, ty
covert coyote
raidbots is still showing 2% on the 2 piece, is it not updated?
next pilot
would EC work better on the demonhunter council?
junior thicket
would EC work better on the demonhunter council?
i look at top logs and follow them
next pilot
smart
tiny drum
anyone know of a good plater mod to track dots via nameplate colors? ideally i want a color for moonfire, a color for sunfire, and a color for when both are applied :D.
viral cliff
the actual hell is this
sudden pawn
...
royal zenith
<:Pog:614041847056039947> ...
lolnerd
sudden pawn
halls is devestating
teal sphinx
<:Pog:614041847056039947> ...
fake
sudden pawn
no :(
sudden pawn
inv me
teal sphinx
idr druids name
sudden pawn
froyoxx
sudden pawn
digital berry
what addon gives the party cds on the left side in m+
i installed an UI pack and now half my screen is peoples cds
oh found it
wind ridge
omnicc?
digital berry
yeah
pallid bay
omnicd
digital berry
omnicd just gives you cd numbers on abilities on your bars
its 10s for m+ for myth track vault still right?
pallid bay
omnicd just gives you cd numbers on abilities on your bars
wrong
scarlet tapir
omnicd just gives you cd numbers on abilities on your bars
this is all omnicd
u also have for raid
brave turtle
we made it.
nova ocean
Who's ready to be bottom dps now that arms and ret are buffef
gilded wolf
lofty depot
guys were dead
granite hare
shut it down guys let's secure a buff
wicked shuttle
Xdd
lofty depot
probably got tettles with that
ember quartz
stone ocean
Okay so can you put up a post saying the class is so bad and it is only fair that you close the discord ret did it and now they got a buff
lofty depot
Okay so can you put up a post saying the class is so bad and it is only fair tha...
YEP close all the discords
need buffs
pseudo merlin
haters hating
viral cliff
imagine throwing a tantrum because not even 1 week of raid data you arent even top
sudden pawn
viral cliff
stone ocean
Love it
viral cliff
its fine
pseudo merlin
imagine throwing a tantrum because not even 1 week of raid data you arent even t...
imagine needing raid data
viral cliff
ret is the whiniest bunch of players ive ever seen
pseudo merlin
Unrelated to the fact that the state of the spec was objectively dogshit
Any other irrelevant opinions?
pallid bay
5% isnt anywhere near enough though
cope
wicked shuttle
5% isnt a small buff in 2025
viral cliff
Unrelated to the fact that the state of the spec was objectively dogshit
heres a hot take. objectively dogshit is an opinion
pseudo merlin
Listen it's better than 3%
pallid bay
its enough for blizzard
pseudo merlin
heres a hot take. objectively dogshit is an opinion
Sure bud
viral cliff
dont you have a discord to close because you arent getting your way
like seriously stop whining
if you want people to truly give a fuck. this aint it chief
wicked shuttle
just reroll if you arent having fun idk
delicate perch
Didn’t you force play boomkin in a season where no one else did
No shot that was fun
wicked shuttle
I had fun idk
delicate perch
Fair
wicked shuttle
I got title that season and just played w/ my friends
viral cliff
Didn’t you force play boomkin in a season where no one else did
did tettles hold you at gun point saying PLAY BOOMKIN OR ELSE
round oracle
offmeta is better
pseudo merlin
Fun spec design is definitely more important
delicate perch
did tettles hold you at gun point saying **PLAY BOOMKIN OR ELSE**
Can you read at all
pseudo merlin
But like you also want to actually be brought to raid
viral cliff
can you?
wicked shuttle
idk i still just think you can either
1.) Suck it up and play the game. Blizzard is gonna do what they're gonna do
2.) Reroll
3.) Quit
dont really have other choices beyond that
lofty depot
4.) close the channel
wicked shuttle
Doubt it even mattered 1%
delicate perch
4.) close the channel
pseudo merlin
Yeah that's fair
round oracle
worst thing about boomkin is that we play exactly the same as 3 expansions ago (without pulsar)
wicked shuttle
if ret is truly bad theyll buff it
round oracle
not the dmg profile
wicked shuttle
they dont care
pseudo merlin
I think maybe they pushed the changes a little faster because of it but not necessarily made them because of it in the first place
viral cliff
4.) close the channel
just thanos snap 50% of the discord until you get buffs
wicked shuttle
"faster" aka the normal friday tuning post the week the raid comes out
pallid bay
worst thing about boomkin is that we play exactly the same as 3 expansions ago (...
if you think about it
marsh owl
Will 723ilvl staff/voidglass staff be better than 720 crafted 2 hander with Ascension on it?
sudden pawn
dont listen to tettles, fight for ur rights and buffs; simply submitting to blizzards will is like going to mcdonalds and ordering 6 nuggets but instead they give u 3 and when u ask for ur 6, u get told to leave
pallid bay
treants window is just pulsar v2
sudden pawn
revolt!!
pseudo merlin
I mean in past seasons it took more than the first week
wicked shuttle
wrong
round field
treants window is just pulsar v2
pulsar but a button
that maybe applies moonfire
but only maybe
round oracle
treants window is just pulsar v2
kinda, but ec is literally the same gameplay
delicate perch
but only maybe
round oracle
whirling stars is like pulsar but longer rampup
burnt anchor
Apparently we just need to close the discord and they buff same day
lucid olive
We are shutting down Dreamgrove effective immediately, we have now gone 2 weeks without being mentioned in a blue post. It is clear that Blizzard is telling us we are not allowed to play Balance Druid anymore. /s
delicate perch
Finally
round oracle
last
mighty mica
hmmm
pseudo merlin
Let's go
sudden pawn
burnt anchor
lucid olive
fixed
wicked shuttle
We are shutting down Dreamgrove effective immediately, we have now gone 2 weeks ...
lucid olive
livid jay
guys turn the discord off we could use a 5%
lucid olive
shut it down until they remove lunar calling
leaden birch
I came in here to say we should shut the discord down
pseudo merlin
This 5% buff puts us 1% ahead of moonkins in 99th percentile HC logs
clever vigil
I think we should go on strike
pseudo merlin
rekt
clever vigil
specifically until they bring back pulsar and stellar drift
mighty mica
I think we should go on strike
nothing is stopping you
pseudo merlin
I am a pulsar enjoyer
round field
Drift would be so hot
pseudo merlin
SD overrated
lucid olive
have you guys seen the greatest "this didn't age well" video of all time
clever vigil
I will keep shitposting until the promised land is found
round oracle
dadbuilds ❤️
clever vigil
Oh wow
round field
SD overrated
Sd is the most op talent ever
proper sinew
Uh
pseudo merlin
errant flint
If rets are getting buffed bc cringe crash out we must be cringier
lucid olive
"Taking that talent is cringe. That talent is really, really, really awful" - Tettles about Lunar Calling 2024
round field
Hes not wrong
lucid olive
Lunar Calling has since got a 300% buff and went from 40% Starfire dam to 160% Starfire dam
round oracle
might have buffed starfire a bit after that
lucid olive
Stellar Command unchanged
round oracle
yeah
regal mauve
How big is the difference between Elune's Chosen and Keeper of the Grove for M+?
I know Elune's performs better, but I don't really like playing it. Wondering how much damage I'd be leaving on the table by making this choice...
normal pilot
i can't wait for void elune tree from tww alpha to come back for midnight
digital berry
How big is the difference between Elune's Chosen and Keeper of the Grove for M+?...
you can play either at most key levels
round oracle
How big is the difference between Elune's Chosen and Keeper of the Grove for M+?...
doesnt matter play what u like
bronze quail
Wasnt really his question tbh
round oracle
small enough not to matter*
regal mauve
Thank you so much. ❤️
round field
Wasnt really his question tbh
Who asked u
round field
Yeah well maybe you shouldnt
steep folio
Go duel
bronze quail
Nah that was something else
lucid olive
damn
steep folio
In all of this retri buff and lack of boomie buff chat.. How did warlocks get away with a 3% slap on he wrists again..?
lucid olive
i didn't think cranion raiders existed in the wild anymore
sonic surge
can we shutdown our discord so we get 5% buff also
sonic surge
i want 5%
sonic surge
ret whined and shutdown their disc and got 5%
meager storm
In all of this retri buff and lack of boomie buff chat.. How did warlocks get aw...
Rwf
round field
We are like
bronze quail
i didn't think cranion raiders existed in the wild anymore
Im not sure how to understand this one.
meager storm
After people get 4 set we should go up on the graph a bit
round field
Aug into boomkin
sonic surge
we're middle of the pack
Brother do u know waht is middle, like when ur RL says run to the middle are u usually floorgang
lucid olive
sonic surge
no but fr shutting down dreamgrove might work since it worked for ret
pseudo merlin
In all of this retri buff and lack of boomie buff chat.. How did warlocks get aw...
all 3 lock specs have to remain in the top 5
forest dust
guys were dead
Link? Or what is this?
pallid bay
https://youtu.be/tLSQRHgBAAc?si=zH1EPSLarZK_ygJP&t=400
that guy is so real for calling the talent dogshit
pseudo merlin
based
indigo barn
Brave to assume any devs even noticed or heard about class discord shutting down
lucid olive
that guy is so real for calling the talent dogshit
yeah that guy's so wise
"what are you gonna do just starfire all the time"
sonic surge
Link? Or what is this?
lucid olive
15 months later
bronze quail
Brave to assume any devs even noticed or heard about class discord shutting down
They got a buff on the day though, I would say it somehow worked xd
mighty mica
incidental
royal zenith
it's pvp changes @forest dust
lucid olive
They got a buff on the day though, I would say it somehow worked xd
no
blizzard does not give a shit
they plan tuning a few days in advance
digital berry
guys were dead
?
meager storm
no but fr shutting down dreamgrove might work since it worked for ret
Tuning is prob done days before the blue post, to believe these buffs were cuz of the discord thing it’s just some clueless sht
forest dust
it's pvp changes <@351366922077470721>
Ahhh damn, I thought we got an overall nerf lol 😂
Merci @royal zenith
sonic surge
Tuning is prob done days before the blue post, to believe these buffs were cuz o...
like how much more obvious do i have to make it be that i am making fun of the ret situation? tongue in cheek?
meager storm
Idk u keep saying the same sht, i thought u were brain dead
oblique drum
I was kinda hoping the ret situation would turn into a meme and copy pasta. All dps channels shutdown for 24 hrs, copy pasta the ret message and everyone migrate to the pally discord for a day to hangout and wait for our aura buffs
sonic surge
idk bro i think u just only understand things literally and dont understand sarcasm/metaphors etc
pallid bay
be nice guys
sonic surge
id point out what i think is causing that but id get timed out
royal zenith
royal zenith
based
autumn raven
lets shut this down guys #SecureTheBuff
sonic surge
lets shut this down guys #SecureTheBuff
do u mean this literally u need to be clear for the green cat
sonic surge
https://tenor.com/view/thanos-blocked-users-discord-gif-gif-17964926
u got me that was sad of me
pseudo merlin
this isnt allowed anymore right
lucid olive
thats a good deal
pseudo merlin
advertising sales
royal zenith
you can sell anything/boost
lucid olive
you should take the offer and try your hardest to int them
royal zenith
communities are not allowed
pseudo merlin
youre allowed to advertise m+ sales in m+ premade group finder?
oblique drum
Hmm is that ms Chad as in a girl Chad or Microsoft
lucid olive
microsoft chad is my new AI
sonic surge
microsoft chad is my new AI
have u prompted it to let u call it Sugar Chaddy yet? its great, i love sending code snippets to my Sugar Chaddy to find bugs for me, it never works but it tries its best
mighty mica
ew
meager storm
this has to be a clanka
lucid olive
damn thats a real life cat
royal zenith
it's so disturbing
sonic surge
how many floodgates till i get neck and helmet
floodgate for leather helm?
i dont think it has one
lucid olive
i dont think it has one
thats crazy
sonic surge
@royal zenith yooo same
royal zenith
yuh
sonic surge
thats crazy
weird why isnt that in the dungeon journal
jaunty blaze
lucid olive
weird why isnt that in the dungeon journal
thats crazy..
sonic surge
ur right @lucid olive i remember getting that in vault
pseudo merlin
yall are running dungeons?
crisp scaffold
invite count 0 ?
sonic surge
thats crazy..
hmm prob some addon busted on my end then, apologies
pseudo merlin
0 yes
crisp scaffold
damn
lucid olive
yall are running dungeons?
i have the get invited cheat code
meager storm
whats ur io
pseudo merlin
idk 2.6?
meager storm
idk then
pseudo merlin
im just doing like 8-10
pseudo merlin
This ret protest made people aware of how bad the spec is so now community perception is to never invite
meager storm
oh as ret
pseudo merlin
yeah
digital berry
yall are running dungeons?
wait what addon is that
pseudo merlin
before today I was getting insta invites
digital berry
decline count is hilarious
meager storm
well thank the bolas guy
pseudo merlin
Thanks Obama
livid jay
Danke Merkel
pseudo merlin
Honestly LFG Decline counter really helps put things into perspective and make shit less doomer
Like an invite rate of 1 in 8-10 means you just need to apply to the max of 5 twice
So max itl be 5-10 min to get into a key, which is kinda fine
acoustic pawn
do we still play EC in m+ even with the new tier set?
digital berry
do we still play EC in m+ even with the new tier set?
yes
sonic surge
do we still play EC in m+ even with the new tier set?
im playing kotg cuz EC hurts my hands when i spent all day doing keys nonstop for hours on end
the dps still feels good
digital berry
how...?
lofty depot
?
digital berry
its fewer buttons for ec
sonic surge
its fewer buttons for ec
the moonfire spam
not about number of buttons but my mousehand
round oracle
what do you spam as kotg
digital berry
understandable
sonic surge
what do you spam as kotg
starfire with my non mouse hand
leaden birch
Not being meta anymore hurts
sonic surge
i moonfire a few then just let the trees do the rest because im getting old 
unreal spade
is it worth going 2set + 2set or should i wait for 4 set?
digital berry
2p2p
unreal spade
o7
sonic surge
is it worth going 2set + 2set or should i wait for 4 set?
2 set is ok to break, but sim it just to be sure
ilevel can be a problem sometimes
unreal spade
roger, thanks!
pallid bay
LFR 4p 😎
pseudo merlin
W
digital berry
i capitulated and used cata on hero pants today
sick and tired of not having even 2p
normal pilot
hm mythic soul hunter buffs
pallid bay
hp buff
tame dome
folks, question about pulls in m+. do you tend to dot up with moonfire, then sunfire, then pop cooldowns and begin rotation?
pallid bay
ye
dapper wing
mhm
tame dome
or do you ever sunfire, pop cooldowns, then put up moonfire between starfalls? I'm asking because of how strong starfire is
dapper wing
Everything gets a moonfire then sunfire it all, pop incarn
dreamy ingot
Ret is never living this down
Because the devs are talking to evokers?
tame dome
just feels so bad when there is a mass pull and by the time I've dotted all moonfires, it's half dead
dapper wing
Slam my Nature's Grace stacks, shadow meld, slam another 2 nature graces, warrior of elune
Easy 7 super fast/instant starfires
goes brrrr
boreal brook
just feels so bad when there is a mass pull and by the time I've dotted all moon...
If they are dying that fast, you're in too low of a key, and should probably just slam keeper
dapper wing
or go higher in key
tame dome
I don't seem to get much burst value out of keeper tbh
when I tested it on dummies, the ramp up at the start doesn't seem too different
visual snow
just play old 4p, fuck new one, is dogshit
calm wave
just feels so bad when there is a mass pull and by the time I've dotted all moon...
answer is higher keys usually, but yeah if u find yourself in a key n shit dies to quick i just pop that shit n miss a few moonfires 'oooh nooo' 😮
dapper wing
If things are dying too fast for you to fully dot shit, your damage if you only dot half of it isn't going to do anything. Kinda just take the L and go to a higher key lvl
hallow falcon
Hey folks, are there any good boomy povs to follow for rwf? The main streams are not really showing any boomy action (for potentially obvious reasons) 😅
dapper wing
Any boomkins have swapped to spriest, Dev, Aug, or another caster
tame dome
Hey folks, are there any good boomy povs to follow for rwf? The main streams are...
wait u think there will be a boomie in rwf?
tame dome
If things are dying too fast for you to fully dot shit, your damage if you only ...
ok ty
calm wave
try just being alittle more pro active with moonfire dots when tank is gathering? maybe but be careful ur not just taking aggro
hallow falcon
Doesn't need to be liquid/echo 😂 just someone relatively high level that's streaming that I can keep an eye on
tame dome
Any boomkins have swapped to spriest, Dev, Aug, or another caster
aug in m+? O.o
dapper wing
For race to world first
tame dome
ah
dapper wing
And I've ran with an aug it's not awful... still troll but not awful
simple veldt
My boomie is going brr in m+. Still in myth track 4p from last season. Are we expecting to decline relative to other classes once we transition to season 3 tier? I’ve been top DPS in every key I’ve run. Very different from what all the guides say our ranking is.
digital berry
My boomie is going brr in m+. Still in myth track 4p from last season. Are we ex...
you will probably not top dps meters if you play with competent people
in pugs?
ehh
It's a cesspool
simple veldt
I mean I pug my way to 3k. Don’t have a consistent 5 stack.
dapper wing
Idk even with competent players, you can top keys depending on the key. Like boomkin in keys is not bad we kinda blast.
simple veldt
Sort of tank dependent though
dapper wing
You'll probably top most keys up to 3k pugging
simple veldt
Honestly boomie feels good. There was so much doom and gloom.
It’s great for pug’s with the shorter cooldowns
dapper wing
The doom and gloom before this week was very warranted
but we got hit with buffs past two weeks and it's been good enough
simple veldt
Yeah but even after the second buff some people were still saying we were going to be ass.
tame dome
don't get why they buffed all the bottom specs except boomie and aug... my two classes ;_;
one doth protest
iron chasm
Hey folks, are there any good boomy povs to follow for rwf? The main streams are...
Is canexx still playing boomy? I usually watch him
hallow falcon
Maybe found a stream, Liquid Tobo (?) is about to do Dimensius I think
iron chasm
how much haste and mastery do we want?
There’s no real % just sim it. New tier set like crit and vers a lot more so you’ll prob have less this tier than ever for raid
Less haste*
earnest sage
There’s no real % just sim it. New tier set like crit and vers a lot more so you...
yea I see, cause I got a vers crit dagger sim'ed it and got higher dps
harsh herald
For raid spec, but you'll still want a buncha haste for EC right?
earnest sage
whats ec?
harsh herald
elunes chosen
iron chasm
By raid spec ec do you mean the talents we use for one boss
Because you run Kotg on every fight but demon hunters
harsh herald
i meant kotg for raid, sorry
iron chasm
With 4pc you have a lot more vers and crit
Haste has not as much value. Think my sim put me at like 8% haha
earnest sage
looks like it's gonna be a vers crit season for us
rough crane
So are we supposed to be KOTG or EC or r they both viable
earnest sage
kotg raid all day long
rough crane
And m+ is ec?
rough crane
I just cleared normal with my guild and I’m kotg and I was bottom/mid pack dps making me want to reroll almost but I’m already 690😔
Seems very weak in raid but keys I pump
earnest sage
just starfire at the beginning and spam wrath + surge
rough crane
Does your eclipse matter that much? I’m kinda new to boomy, I been doing that above^ but when eclipse is up I hit a starfire twice again to activate wrath eclipse, is that correct
earnest sage
Does your eclipse matter that much? I’m kinda new to boomy, I been doing that ab...
yes
in raid we want to have that single target of wrath + surge combo
in dungeons we need the small aoe from lunar
rough crane
https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium
Ill def take a read thank u, its quite a lot jumping into this spec raid is just discouraging right now being so low but keys im usually top by quite a good amount
Yeah there’s a boomy in our guild who has old tier and we’re same ilvl and he blows me away
pliant moon
I just cleared normal with my guild and I’m kotg and I was bottom/mid pack dps m...
What did you parse? I parsed r1 and beat everyone in my team
rough crane
I have current 2p
digital berry
I just cleared normal with my guild and I’m kotg and I was bottom/mid pack dps m...
you are just not playing it right
there's nothing more to it
rough crane
What did you parse? I parsed r1 and beat everyone in my team
Not well being new to the spec, dimensius I parsed the best of all fights at 68🤢
digital berry
unless youre playing with giga pumpers parsing 100
rough crane
I’m definitely not playing it correctly in raid, but like I said m+ is a different story
pliant moon
Not well being new to the spec, dimensius I parsed the best of all fights at 68�...
Nothing to worry about then. Just keep at it 🙂
rough crane
Appreciate the feedback thank you
earnest sage
isnt boom like one of the worst specs in raids anyway rn
digital berry
yeah
digital berry
Appreciate the feedback thank you
if you want some more detailed help for raid post logs
snow elm
How come boomie didn’t get another buff this week 😭
rough crane
Just discouraging is all, it’s still very early I’ll keep going and learning the spec more, I’d just hate to dump all this time into a class I shoulda prolly rerolled
digital berry
How come boomie didn’t get another buff this week 😭
probably after rwf atp
we are not THAT dreadfully bad that they need to buff
arms and ret were simming like 5.2 or smth
warm gulch
I swear moonkin seems fine
digital berry
ehh
earnest sage
I swear moonkin seems fine
warm gulch
earnest sage
paid actor
covert coyote
When are we shutting down the druid disc?
normal pilot
it's already shut down you're jsut dreaming
stuck quartz
new max starfire crit achieved
potent cargo
ionic oak
Yo so when is this discord gonna close?
Damn others beat me to the joke
Aight. Ima head out
gilded arch
new max starfire crit achieved
damn my highest had been 16
stuck quartz
damn my highest had been 16
This is the last week to beat fdks before they all get 4set
loud kettle
This is the last week to beat fdks before they all get 4set
youll still be able to beat most dks
they suck at the game
stuck quartz
youll still be able to beat most dks
kek
gilded arch
do we keep convoke with 4p for ca or just blast whenever trees up
digital berry
you NEVER convoke without trees AND CA
gilded arch
yea i kinda thought so, but didnt have enough time to check last raid
digital berry
it all lines up pretty well
theres a flow to it
tree ca convoke, tree ca, tree, tree ca convoke, tree, tree, tree ca convoke, tree, tree, tree ca convoke
this is with last seasons tier set
this season is a bit more of a mess
gilded arch
this season is a bit more of a mess
yea feels like it
splitted nhc and got 4p going into hc, just started blasting after reading through compendium
feels fun and interesting but very weird
dapper wing
Make sure you always have 2 starsurges loaded for the moment dryad pops away
need to send those during CA for maximum buff
gilded arch
Make sure you always have 2 starsurges loaded for the moment dryad pops away
yea that feels fucking fun
digital berry
so i cannot practice the muscle memory yet
gilded arch
the opener and every single ca are different
yep
digital berry
you have 2 gcds to cast 2 spells
gilded arch
so i cannot practice the muscle memory yet
actually played a dungeon afterwards in the setup just to get to know it better 
gilded arch
1.8 or 2 seconds to cast the 2 starsurges
yea its tight but doable
dapper wing
yeah
gilded arch
but i also still got a lot of haste
dapper wing
Gotta focus on it, fuck mechanics lol
gilded arch
did definitely not expect to go full ham and delete haste after 4p
gilded arch
Gotta focus on it, fuck mechanics lol
your pp fits the 4p rotation perfectly
dapper wing
I want to make a weakaura for myself to just scream at me, flashing colors for when my dryad is gone
tame dome
what if
gilded arch
my eyes are GLUED
tame dome
you sim more single target with EC than keepers
gilded arch
https://tenor.com/view/elio-lizard-button-gif-10528652411096742370
love the fella
gilded arch
you sim more single target with EC than keepers
sounds weird lel
dapper wing
Keeper should be ahead of EC unelss your stats are just fucked
tame dome
11% crit 25% haste 20% mastery
dapper wing
My stats and Kotg sims higher than ec pretty easily
tame dome
those stats are nuts xD
dapper wing
yeah... I have an abundance of haste
tame dome
you've got roughly 15% more stats than me
dapper wing
Good for EC in keys but raid is rough, need more verse crit for the big slammer starsurges after dryad
gilded arch
Good for EC in keys but raid is rough, need more verse crit for the big slammer ...
same goes for me
tame dome
is it worth using EC in raid if it sims more?
gilded arch
i mean ec plays like shit imo in raid
dapper wing
Starfire is an atrocious button to press
gilded arch
feels like playing chaos bolt without buff
dapper wing
yah
tame dome
fair
gritty kite
With the new opener with 4 set, do we wanna use trinket and pot in the start as we use to, or do we wanna save it for 2nd CA end?
gilded arch
i think with ca right? trinkets hold long enough to benefit your empowered surges
dapper wing
mhm
gilded arch
and id guess they help you pool your damage
dapper wing
Dryad does not last long enough for any trinket to be gone
And you want to giga buff your convoke + double starsurge after dryad
plush pagoda
Guys, best talent for m+ or is the same build s2?
dapper wing
same build
gritty kite
And you want to giga buff your convoke + double starsurge after dryad
Exactly, so i guess u dot, CA, 2x starsurge, pot / trinket, FON, convoke right?
then do the dryad fade into new CA, and do the build up
gilded arch
id keep all extra stuff in ca macro
your build up is fon convoke, i think 2nd ca is just for more dam for the 2 empowered ones
gritty kite
Well dryad last for 10 sec each, so with some trinkets u wont get the use of it on the last 2 empowered starsurges
gilded arch
is there a single on use trinket that lasts less than 12 seconds?
that we actually use
gritty kite
how do u get 12 seconds?
dapper wing
2 seconds to cast the starsurges
gilded arch
10 seconds dryad, next 2 seconds surges
gritty kite
Well u got 2 dryads
dapper wing
Araz is 30 seconds
Living flame is 20
Priory is 20
Lily is 15 seconds
You only really care about the first one
for the buffs
gilded arch
You only really care about the first one
this
dapper wing
since it's convoke + pot
gilded arch
u just full send the first dryad
dapper wing
mmhm
dapper wing
No it's pretty ass
brittle mulch
ight so im just stupid
gilded arch
its fun to play and feels good to crit high
hard frost
20 mil starfire's are kinda funny though
brittle mulch
im sorry what
gilded arch
20 mil starfire's are kinda funny though
most definitely yea
brittle mulch
yo i need my 4 piece
dapper wing
That's if you hit all of the gamba and hit hard
gilded arch
i wish id see them pop up on my screen tho
brittle mulch
i dont have a single piece yet
gilded arch
i just look details after dungeon and see big crit
ebon plover
My stats and Kotg sims higher than ec pretty easily
guild funnel
dapper wing
I haven't done heroic nor normal with a guild, this was all just unnatural luck
ebon plover
🙂
gilded arch
i didnt think about it, but i really love that the EC set gives starlord stacks
feels very nice
dapper wing
mhm
That always feels good af
Seeing myself cast a single starfall after a starfire and seeing myself at 2 stacks
gilded arch
got two in a row in one fight, i will cherish that moment until my end
gilded arch
Seeing myself cast a single starfall after a starfire and seeing myself at 2 sta...
pure bliss
dapper wing
We gotta be careful, blizzard is gonna see that and nerf it, too strong
lofty depot
With the new opener with 4 set, do we wanna use trinket and pot in the start as ...
u use like normal
ur still using convoke in the first ca
it still does a lot of damage
stoic wharf
I didn't think that the sim would tell me that, but thanks
(Haven't raided last season)
jade flume
Can sim all options in top gear on raidbots
Just click through the options on the belt and swap to each one
frail sonnet
does anyone have a good dryad's aura? (4p gamers only)
spice swallow
are we preferring KOTG or EC for m+ with some tier sets
fossil shard
are we preferring KOTG or EC for m+ with some tier sets
EC for m+
spice swallow
same talents as last season for EC right
fossil shard
Yuh
spice swallow
sweet
fossil shard
But if you ever have any doubt, sim stuff
spice swallow
my favorite 0 brain build
lofty depot
does anyone have a good dryad's aura? (4p gamers only)
theres one in the oibalance back in comependium
can either use the pack (because its the best), or just copy the aura
frail sonnet
k, thanks
frail sonnet
can either use the pack (because its the best), or just copy the aura
im pretty used with the luxthos one, but ill check that one out. or just get the dryads lol
lofty depot
sune >
storm frigate
do you want to keep moonfire on every target?
my dps is falling pretty far behind in 8-10s compared to other dps. granted i'm still 0pc but i know i'm doing something wrong
agile wraith
So am I tripping or is the parapodia the best option among these? The neck is vers mas.
I know amongst the trinkets parapodia was simming the highest, I just was trying to figure out if I am crazy by taking a champion parapodia over a hero vers mas neck or a hero nontier helm.
nimble pier
Parapodia is supposed to be the best m+ trink for balance
lofty depot
do you want to keep moonfire on every target?
read the compendium, if they live long enough yes
ocean atlas
we goin on a bomiie strike?
mighty mica
nothing's stopping you
storm frigate
read the compendium, if they live long enough yes
just said to spread at start but not aboiut upkeep
chrome torrent
just said to spread at start but not aboiut upkeep
the aoe spender button extends the duration
storm frigate
ohhhhh
lofty depot
just said to spread at start but not aboiut upkeep
aoe prio
maiden pasture
I know amongst the trinkets parapodia was simming the highest, I just was trying...
I'd take none of these
All farmable
agile wraith
All farmable
True but I feel like something from the list would benefit me more than a socket atm
maiden pasture
If you care about your gear specifically for this week sure
But if you do a couple dungeon you will replace it
storm frigate
the aoe spender button extends the duration
wait, it doesn't seem to
which talent should be doing that?
my aoe dmg is poop
shy void
is there a way to block all whispers so you don't hear people bugging you to buy items you win in LFR
lofty depot
think u can block whispers from not friends? idk
lofty depot
there is
shy void
https://i.imgur.com/OUgYv7R.png
result: it works on your end, you won't see people whispering you, but they see their whisper to you and it just looks like you didn't say anything back to them
lofty depot
big
shy void
this is really big for the moonkin community
merry ibex
what's an average starsurge non-crit hit looking like for you guys on the buffed starsurges?
i feel like mine are doing nothing
are target dummies bad for testing it?
lofty depot
uhh probably like 8milly or something
uhh its fine
ur just not raid buffed
but u could go sim target dummy and see what ur avg hit would be in the html
but depends
storm frigate
hmm i must be using the wrong talent build then
lofty depot
if ur playing m+ without kindling, yea
storm frigate
silly me for trusting icy veins
lofty depot
hollow sonnet
how do y'all feel about our new tier set for m+?
rough marten
icy veins dogshit
urban prawn
is boomkin disc shutting down until they overbuff it too
chrome torrent
icy veins dogshit
icy veins has kindling on too
daring gull
moonkin just being removed from the game at this point tbh
chrome torrent
this guy just picked the wrong talents to copy
rough marten
brittle mulch
should i go ilvl over anything
or just sim
cuz my sims say like all my lower gear is better than new gear i get
lofty depot
or just sim
sim it always
vapid anvil
whats the debuff id for moonfire dot?
forest cobalt
can i ask a stupid question... using chatgpt because i cant find anything elsewise for this particular situation... it says in single target rotation you NEED to be alternating between eclipses because the game development wont allow you to chain solar eclipse... however when im playing and i do chain solar... i get the buff icon for solar empowerment and my button icons are highlighting wrath as empowered... is that a visual big and I MUST alternate to keep receiving an empowerment of somesort?
forest cobalt
well it would make sense and the rude remark was not necessary as i forgot there was a dreamgrove guide and i was just second guessing my gamestyle, a simple answer to my question would have sufficed instead of you feeling the need to keyboard warrior out to insult someone
dense steeple
regardless, AI is fucking useless and you should not be asking for help from a tinskin clanker
use a guide written by a person, not a guide written by a robot who thinks it might know what a human should do based on the half a fraction of a milisecond that it takes to scrape 40 different guides written by humans over the last 20 years
digital berry
god damn people really do be using chat gpt as if it wasn't a cellpool of literal objective lies
dense steeple
i think the craziest part is like
hes been in this disc for 5 years. he knows this is where you go to ask questions. and he still asked chatgpt
digital berry
This new trend of people being incapable of interacting with others is terrifying
Wdym you get a panic attack from having to make a phone call or ask a store attendant for help
lofty depot
i think the craziest part is like
hes been in this disc for 5 years. he knows t...
he done forgot
digital berry
brooo i need 5 more 10s
exotic perch
well go do em
exotic perch
well it would make sense and the rude remark was not necessary as i forgot there...
ye sorry ill make fun of people who use chatgpt
it can be useful for things
but not for basic reasoning
radiant wyvern
Hello! Does anyone know what happened to the MDT Sim WA? I'm getting a 404 on its wago page
radiant wyvern
No. The option for simming that is heavily recommended for m+, this https://wago.io/Yya4XBbl-
digital berry
uh oh
meager storm
dunno
radiant wyvern
it's joever 
normal pilot
just in time for chain declines
dusk spear
UNpopular opinion: having lfr all 4 wings open day 1 would make normal pugs better since people would have some exposure to the fight
round field
UNpopular opinion: having lfr all 4 wings open day 1 would make normal pugs bett...
Popular opinion
Lfr should be deleted as it serves 0 purpose in todays game
round field
Lfr 4p probably dps loss
dusk spear
i'm a casual scrub if you couldn't tell. normal 2pc manaforge + heroic 2pc undermine? or 4pc heroic undermine
meager storm
fire mage set wasnt simming properly
ohhhhhhhhh
i think we need to start doing the same
digital berry
i'm a casual scrub if you couldn't tell. normal 2pc manaforge + heroic 2pc unde...
2p2p
But also sim urself
digital berry
fire mage set wasnt simming properly
As in they just got a 10% buff or smth?
With their “fixed” sim ?
meager storm
i havent seen the real fixed sim but i know the mage discord was going insane
digital berry
Fire never does zdps for too long tho
Also how on earth do mages have broken sims when they have insane dedicated minds working on their apl
round field
Happens
Like that one time ele was simming with the wrong rank on lightning bolt
For like 2 tiers
shy void
Wdym you get a panic attack from having to make a phone call or ask a store atte...
the only thing that gives me a panic attack is when i get a ping from someone replying to me here
shy void
:D
dreamy cove
would I ever replace cloak proc boots can I vendor all other boots?
lofty depot
sim it prob
livid jay
i love priory
loud kettle
Nerf boomy?
livid jay
it is
i even had to play feral one eky
cause they wanted to play phys comp
even tho feral gives em nothing xD
clowns
frozen solar
Hey guys i had a dumb question, as im getting more of mast/haste items my sim is really pushing me back to crit/vers (running 2+2p). I get the value of stats but just wondering what's making us sim so much higher with me being at almost 30% crit now
loud kettle
Caring about comp for silly 10s is weirdge
livid jay
Hey guys i had a dumb question, as im getting more of mast/haste items my sim is...
the new set devalues haste massively
frozen solar
ah ok
loud kettle
Grats on forge
livid jay
but yea that haste situation is kinda cringe
loud kettle
That being said it shouldve been me
frozen solar
but yea that haste situation is kinda cringe
ig we want the dryads to pump real hard on their cast huh
I wonder why the 'bis' list loadout simmed the highest then with focus on haste/mas again. or mb its a bit old
bleak ginkgo
what kind of signle target damage are you guys doing in m+? My damage on big pulls is sick, but single target is sick for different reasons lol
livid jay
its because we cramp so much damage into our dryad windows and convoke is a big part of it and convoke doesnt care about haste at all
dapper wing
Praise the almighty massive mob dungeons 11 floodyG
frozen solar
its because we cramp so much damage into our dryad windows and convoke is a big ...
gotcha thanks
speaking of sims, for EC in m+ what type of sim you guys sim for outside of PW 5min? 5t 10t idk 40s / 1.5min?
livid jay
go to the guide linked to this channel and go to FAQ
lofty depot
speaking of sims, for EC in m+ what type of sim you guys sim for outside of PW 5...
ull run haste for ec
so running 2 sets of gear for what ur doing
frozen solar
so running 2 sets of gear for what ur doing
thanks! ye sims just finished and EC is back to 30% haste. Just getting myself a weakaura to tell me my loadout on readycheck cuz i'll 100% forget 😄
main blade
thanks! ye sims just finished and EC is back to 30% haste. Just getting myself a...
can you share this WA, cause I'm sure I'll need it as well 😛
frozen solar
I ended up using this, its a bit too much but has the info https://wago.io/tfKvHl-jk
@main blade
lots of other ones gave lua errors i cba look into 😛
main blade
tyvm
merry ibex
has anyone actually tried EC st build in raid?
merry ibex
my last 3 sims it's higher than kotg
and frankly im more comfortable with it than kotg and the dryad nonsense
drifting nova
the only correct take
hollow mist
sick of this dryad nonsense
full tundra
+1