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MMO mouse for dumb shit
i use an fps mouse
2 side buttons gang
dont know if this is the place to ask but can someone help me with a transmog set?
i need to know what set it is
We're common chickens here
rise up
oh boy this will be an adventure
show
send the pic here?
ye
Legion artifact weapon, ezpz
i found a set tht looks like it but not that dark and with the red details
the legs are not part of the bear set
oh wait im blind
I think those are the elite pvp shoulders
check your transmog tab for the emerald nightmare set
I think this is elite pvp
but one of the raid recolors((not mythic) is close to the same color but lacking the red shoulder tint
tyty
Bro there’s a weakaura that detects obr users ? Is it legit?
LMAO sus 100%
nah that's hacking my pc

Oh also that
Are we shutting down disc for ret solidarity?
No
:^)
Cry about being on the bottom for 4 seconds when boomkin had been dog water since vault
Man playing without nature's balance sucks ass, and wowhead recommends that for 2 last bosses
the inevitable copypastas are gonna go so hard
Dont go to wowhead for talent builds
Use Warcraftlogs
U dont necessarily need twin moons for either boss
Definitely don’t need it for saladb
And tbh the adds on dimensius are generally too far apart
Can’t even moonfire boss + first add
I have no idea how to copy talents from warcraftlogs, the UI is annoying as hell and I've never learned to use it. I just look at parses usually
Summary
There’s a copy button tho
And then u click the talents and click copy
oh shit there is
Learn to use it
thanks
You also just check what people are playing and adjust your own in accordance
Start clicking shit and see what gappens
I wiped on loom in lfr cause half the raid got oneshot by the big aoe
think about the insane treants moonfire value
I don’t even target that add tbh
more like removing rets, they dont want to play anyway whats the point
We’ve been dogshit for so long and yet no temper tantrum yet
Is saladbars amp always 430?
whats the off piece?
can take ferals with them too
Shoulder
Isn’t it % based ?
we crafting offhand with voidglass dagger guys ?
We waiting on vault
Plexus mace requires no crests and sims roughly the same as 704 kris
No
It's fairly inflexible but not set in stone
So 710 plexus mace and 704 Kris could be an oh option
That's not poggers
Next week CDs no line up
cant wait to push nexus king too fast and wipe to debuff
Surely there’s a fail safe
If you push too fast it just cleanses the rebuffs
Right
…?

Cam also just craft a 2h staff if your not mythic raiding.
When were gonna have like 20 more ilvl and 4p that shit in heroic will be toxic to kill
Man options
Crafting staff do be a crest save
Mhm
And if your guild goes by sim gain your not getting a weapon over another caster
Haven’t we mostly crafted staff every season so far
Yeseem
Yeah.
Crest save and it's easy
By the time people end up getting the mainhand you'll have enough crests to just make an off hand later
Yeah by the time it’s relevant it’s whatever
I mean what even is the dps difference
It's low
2h crafted vs myth mh, crafted oh ascendance
Oh yeah I’m dumb
lol
I have 2 peice of the new set, 0 pieces of old set. Does anyone know if that changes my talent build? Like out of mushrooms for example?
Also dawn thread better later, but shit for peog
No
Yeah. Could later on craft a belt for double dusk
We use shrooms with new tier aswell, doesn't matter
Wrist, belt, weapon are kinda the only 3 available crafts
Crafted belt beats unique belt ?
Yes
I got a normal atomic phasebelt and it simmed better than the unique 
Yeah hated using the damn ring all season
We don't want to be like dev where it's our season circe circlet
Replacing circlet was impossible last season
I cant wait to craft a weapon and first vault after is the void glass spire
I'm gonna be sooo happy
Spire is bad
Is it?
You are bad
Haste poopy
Was simming fine for me
Yucky yucky haste
Can’t wait to do tank dps in the weekly 10s
Doubledusk spire was competitive with ascendance offhand voidglass dagger when I simmed them like 3 days ago
Link contract killer title

Did u sim dusk at 80%
I think I've had it at 75% from when bluesilken was meta
Is like 60 during prog
8 wipes in AK 10 before the first mini boss
Skrill issue
I'm questioning my life choices rn
That's crazy
Poison dispel
Nah
Wtf were you wiping too?
it wasnt even that
Like healer not healing, people standing in webs, no defensives, no kicks and somehow random ninja pulls of packs I didnt even know existed
i was depoisoning on cd
in before I get red flagged
Ara kara is so free
Tbh this entire season is pretty free outside of streets
instead of leaving group
All my homies hate the streets
Too many damn bosses
so about crafting... i just got a hero track staff (crit haste). is it any worth to upgrade to 710 and maybe craft wrist? or it's better to w8 next week and go for a crafted weapon?
That last boss is harder than heroic fractilas
mans not even reading
typical
🦆
Don't upgrade weapons last 701 if your crafting one next week

Don’t throw crests at things you will replace
^
Very soon
but can I bypass the red flag simulator by altF4ing instead of leaving group or nah
any knowers
Surely not
704 is fine because next week you can upgrade a total of 12 items from 701 to 704
Which is like all of them
maybe bringig it to 704 is any worth? it uses only heroic crests
Since u wont be upgrading belt or cloak
Its not if u play this reset
But yeah
What are you gonna do with these precious 3 ilvls
6/8 m
Throw them at my other big stat stick items
Yea like my Araz 710
I think i have 3 pieces of loot from s3
I love this game
And it’s loot system
0p
Yeah. I have my necklace, both rings, and boots still from last season
I have also been fucjing living in keys
Bring personal loot back
God i hate lfr
@royal zenith hop on D2
I hate that we have yet another season with crazy good transmogs
and I have to camp LFR for them
So I don't have to wait 3 years till I can solo farm
Let the rats get their gear
Your who the reddit complains about
The Reddit complains about everything
This is the only way Blizzard will make changes
"holy shit this guy joined MY lfr group and yoinked MY loot"
For shutting down the ret channel in protest
As if we're not both putting in the same amount of time and effort
I will never play that game
Guildy said the ret channel is gone because the creator got permad
dont like it
ah
nahhhww
Imma keep focus on wow
until POE2 has a new season and then its both
wait did you say Bolas got permad?
whats happening
why am I banned while all this is happening
😩
The guide writer sbut down the ret discord because it needs god
Well he didnt
he just locked the questions and general channels for ret
not the rest
you still have access to everything you just can't type in 2 channels
Yeah locked the RET channel
idk Bolas is one of the few people on the internet that I blindly follow
Gamz has no power smh
Man's got his shit in the right place
He's right
Ret has been worthless since aberrus
Gamz has all the power
and in aberrus it was mediocre
but people are too busy remembering how good ret is after 6 months of balance patches
This is just an average day for melee players
and then say we're sandbagging
as if ret doesn't start out complete dogshit every patch
Balance perennial bottom 5, discord never shut down
until the patch is almost over
This story sounds very familiar
and 2
It should
ok so that doesnt matter
ret paladins are not special
it's a problem for multiple
This is literally the story of balance druid since SLands lol
that's even worse
lmao
This is literally not
Balance was not garbage at the start of nathria
Too many rets, cull the heard
Just grow up, it's a game lol. Balancing Is hard
nor was it garbage at the start of sanctum
After sl
Nathria, famously a part of shadowlands!
Thank God they listen to feedback 
Is what he means
man said since SL
Sanctum, also famously shadow lands!

Sod was ass
Since doesn’t include tho
alright
Guys its ok melee players need our support. #Istandwithret
#istandonret
Ravec is a melee player so u have to hold his hand
#istandsinceret
in all fairness, blizzard does shit with class tuning and design
Dk players an mechanics, kek
but it's just not ret paladins only
Famous 4 button class not pumping! stop the presses!
but at the start of a patch
#enemyofthepeople
#enemytomechanics
but why is the start of the patch so much more important?
Oh let me deaths advance and just hit plexus while u morons walk thru walls
you rather want to be good then get ultra nerfed?
because race to world first!
gotta see my class color on a stream
yeah they will never bring more than 1 or 2 either way
3 for stix, and rekt bud
?
Real last boss
Why are people so obsessed over their class being in the rwf
Ret is a really good indicator of where things start to become challenging because you see less and less of them 
Why I want things to be balanced for the majority of a patch and not the last 3 weeks?
We're not actually having this conversation?
now it's majority
Yes
you specifically said "in the beginning" in all other comments
Between the start of a patch and the point where we normally reach proper balance, is the majority
No
yo is anyone elses plater fucking deadge rn
nope
Anyone noticed some strange behaviour in dawn breaker regarding the dark orbs from mini boss and boss?
If I have a Interloper's Reinforced Sandals (boots from the raid) normal lvl, it boost with 30% the dmg from the cloak
and then I upgrade it, does it go to 40% like in heroic?
i dont think anyone knows
youd have to find someone who upgraded the normal version
The one person linked a 710 that says 40 still
ah
oh okok so it doesn't change.
Anyone know if Moxie jug is oversimming?
U just have low crit
when you are doing the opener with keeper, do I wait to pop that second incarn after the dryad fades or pop it right before it fades?
just getting your ready for no-addon midnight
As dryad spawns and trees at 2
Funny little patch with nothing in it
Do we get a free catalyst charge for 2k rating like last season?
yes
Uncheck "target highlight" in the target section
in blizz settings?
i dont think they';re supposed to be dark green bars
In plater
My runed 😭😭😭😭 hope I make it through
Clean texture seems to have been messed with
In a weeks time when I don’t need runed anymore I’m gonna be beside myself for spending that 15
to fix that specific issue go to /plater target unclick target highlight
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/t3ML6wFQjhbWAzwdrgGtvs
This this make sense that the belt sims hihger?
as for all the green textures im not sure, kinda annoying
Is Tettles going to crash out and shut down the discord so we can get a buff?

I will have enough runed to completely upgrade my gear next week and it will become irrelevant
Cope
Seethe
holy shit why would plater do me like this
I didn’t spend gilded haha
this target highlight was turbo ass
I was checking for you guys who were asking
Just went to the guy, maxxed it and screenshot
Kk we're fine
Wtf I’m not spending gilded on boots wtf
Then its fine
Brother idk u
It literally said +6 haha check the screenshot
do I have to reload jundies plater profile or smth?
I will not be checking the screen shot
Bad ass
Did u import the new one or
ye trying it now
anyone have the dot colour script handy?
I did 4 different profiles and added the mods etc for coloured frames with dots
Plater is just broken atm
Works fine for me?
I'll just wait for an update
Did you update?
Idk
After shutdown I updated all addons and then it broke
I will not update
Yeah do not update
Hoping when I wake up it’s fixed
I got some serious mini gaming to do tomorrow
They must have broken something when they fixed delves
Idk how that correlates but weirder things have happened
I think I need to be put on antidepressants after the first heroic week of raiding. I'm the only balance druid in the guild and even when I feel like I'm getting a good rotation in normally I would be high on the meters but I look over and see other players that I normally beat in dps last tier smoking me. I am struggling. I'm still in old 4pc but I picked up heroic Staff of Fractured Spacetime and even with this new weapon I am not doing good at all.. Are others experiencing this too? I'm certain there are things I can do to improve as I learn the fights better, but aside from that overall I feel weak as hell in raid.
just disable your discord for 24hrs in protest of our low damage
Yeah I'm having same issue. Does it fix it downgrading it?
I didn’t feel like a warlock but I definitely did not feel weak. First week is usually good for our damage profile..
it may just workout for ret pallies, follow their lead
have to link logs if u need help, but if ur just ranting, then true brother, true
gonna try now
We are in a better spot then last season
let me know if it works, details icons are green too, everything is green 
You probably just didn’t do as many keys as others
just look at top logs, top parses for boomkins are easily 3m off from top classes
is what it is
They might just overgear you
I think I need to be put on antidepressants after the first heroic week of raiding. I'm the only balance druid in the guild and even when I feel like I'm getting a good rotation in normally I would be high on the meters but I look over and see other players that I normally beat in dps last tier smoking me. I am struggling. I'm still in old 4pc but I picked up heroic Staff of Fractured Spacetime and even with this new weapon I am not doing good at all.. Are others experiencing this too? I'm certain there are things I can do to improve as I learn the fights better, but aside from that overall I feel weak as hell in raid.
tuning will come after rwf
We are not in THAT bad of a spot
Seems odd
Others are just overpowered
I'm blasting

Isn’t he 0p
BM is op atm right
hunters are kinda ass too
I was 684 or something 2p2p
I had first Araz trinket 🙂
Yeah hunter got shredded
hunter is fine
idk man it's 2 to 1
Elly is blasting
monka
I think you gaslighting
Just play a mage, they always come out on top
Hunters are fine just not broken
tbh by fine I mean middle of the pack
Yeah I just went through my logs and saw people getting blues doing 100k less than me and I got a 97
i want just 1 season
Banger
do I go feral?
of all 3 specs of mage being turbo ass
ew
Never
Not gonna happen
There's guilds that killed plexus and soulbinder mythic playing moonkins that don't know the opener with new tier

If only

That’s insane
Bro if nobody plays mage we don’t get ai
is this a concerted secret sandbag operation?
It's not that big of a dif, but still
i mean they'll take 1 mage
Who is they
Dw fire will get buffed by 3-6% every week after race until it’s the best
it took me a while to realise that meant arcane intellect and not artificial intelligence
Ret players smh
Don’t worry
They’re going to totally revamp fire in midnight so it’s not a problematic spec anymore
they need to make it like diablo 4 druid
you just have abilities that auto shift you into an animal form
and you're just swapping forms constantly
As long as it’s not cataclysm Druid
They’ll mirror wod demo and remove Moonkin form and give it to Demon Hunter for their new spec
wdym cata druid was insane
I remember playing feral tank on madness
I was doing insane dps going cat when offtank was tanking
Like d4 cataclysm
oh
The spell
yeah not that
we're so ready for raid
love kekkers for that
no1 loves kekkers
So boomie seems fine for keys, I thought they were supposed to be bad?
ret is bad
its week 1
boomies are just sandbaggers
no one has tier
If Kekkers has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Kekkers has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Kekkers has only one fan then that is me. If Kekkers has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Kekkers, then I am against the world.
(boomie is op with s2 tier)
we got buffed by 16% with patch
wait till you get the new tier and so does everyone else
people out here reporting 800k dps going form 4 to 4

Which is an insane amount to get just to go into the new patch…
Is it just supposed to get worse with tier?
And also, I've had multiple people with 4 set in my keys
I only have 2 set but I'm seeing a lot with 4
sometimes you're just the better player
my dps has gone down!
If you have all your digits, you're going to outperform the majority of randoms in keys
I'm sorry I wasn't trying to say I'm doing better than others, to clarify i have only done like one key as my boomie and it was like a 2 or something. I've been playing as another toon, but just from what I've been seeing boomie seems to be doing fine
it's never too awful, wow discord users tend to be playing the wrong game. they want a much closer balanced game than what blizz is making
Yeah I'm just saying irrespective of whether you're right or wrong, you're statistically very very likely to have a positive view of your specs performance if you have even the smallest clue of what you're doing and comparing yourself to randoms you meet in keys
Most people suck at the game
just make a /castsequence
just press N spec EC
OBR?
hm what does 1button even do on opening
I hope something
wtf spec pumps? crazy
Isn't Sanachu one of the sonic head cannon characters of that Chris Chan person
That lore goes deep

mr chan himself?
"a friend"

it does
NGL my waistline b looking fire in this new set
sunfire treants moonfire starfire starfire surge surge convoke is what my 1 button is giving me on opener
Shame you skipped leg day
huh it actually fons before moonfire so it doesn't have to with the treant one
@mighty mica hot or not?
treants? you must be lost, you took the wrong turning at the loony bin
thats true
pull big enough to out dps the noob specs
pull small enough to not let the chickens out dps me
arms is still dead
pretty good gif
Theres gifs now? Hilarious
Imagine having the luxury to just swap to the spec that is exactly the same
but is using two weapons instead of one
and now you're top dps
and tankier, more defensives, better damage profile for m+
the only downside is fury warriors are boomer dh players
the whirlwind build is still omega tier degenerate
having to use it as aoe filler for a cleave buff every 2/3attacks
when I hear whirlwind build I think of ARPGs
its the bear that roleplays as a tree
today is the day you will get it
I just want the red raptor cat
but like
its a 1-3 hour respawn?
and every time I wait 2 hours and go afk for 3 seconds, that's when it spawns
I missed raid yday in a guild I hadnt joined yet 
HUH
did I stutter
sounds like you won't be joining them
thats what ellipsis is for smh...
stuttering?
...yes
I never knew that was the official use case for an ellipses

ok I didnt get anything
just a giagantic dreamseed whatever that is
I just realised
Maybe balance and ret were tuned by the classic vanilla team this patch
They wanted to take it back to their roots
arent you suppose to get the portal for timing both
didnt get the achievement or portal for timing both
did u time the gambit today
do i have to do another 10 tho
Wonder how much they're going to increase the streets timer by
yes?
man
Alternatively, just dont do it, dont get portal, and never go there again?
they should just nuke one of the bosses instead
make it 4 boss dungeon
idk
gambit is banger anways
increase timer, reduce trash
i like your way of thinking
same loot pool
bosses are fun
but its like 14 min shorter
but sadly ima have to do it at 12 for 3k, i do like gambit better then streets
why do you hate it
dawn is so buggy, ara is ara
annoying trash annoying bosses
the protectors can go eat a dick tbf
and so can the music boss
ok i changed my mind
first positive ravec message i've seen
nah false alarm
Hello Druids. I cant find infos on dreamgrove and pin for 2-set old + 2-set new dmg increase or not? Is there something?
shit i'll set the alarm back up to go off on your next happy message
but like, if they remove the protectors and the music boss
its an increase in m+, i assume its probably increase for raid
it will be one of my favorite dungeons of all time
Tazavesh as a whole is just great
appreciated. And as always. I assume I need to sim everything to get the most out of my gear and stats^^
ofc
TV, HOV, Grimrail, HOA, RLP, Uldaman, Priory, Ecodome
best dungeons of all time
change my mind
you can sim the difference on raidbots; also a day ago someone smart here said 2p2p is an upgrade at champion track on the new 2p pieces
Grimrail there is sneak
Freehold was cool too? wasnt it
People hate on grimrail for the wrong reasons
Yeah freehold is alright
I'm just not an enjoyer personally
freehold was great
yeah i LOVE grimrail
freehold didnt have camera cringe
HOA with venthyr boomy was fun
There's like 3 train carts of camera cringe on grimrail
everything else it's a banger dungeon
shut up kekkers
3.5k and 6/8 mythc vote
That would be interesting. I need to sim later. Thanks
naa
foliage EVERYWHERE
theres one staircase
the one below guldans lair
brother
it's fucking foliage everywhere
what are you on about
not arcing depths
the other one

worth it crafting next week 2h staff having Voidglass Spire hero?
sim it
deux
vibe it
what's the dungeon called with the demon council boss , below nighthold
with the boat
cos
ye
this question can only be answered by simming, to say what I said with more words
I think court is a banger, I just hate the foliage
cause the effect on voidglass is kinda powerful
IT'S 90% PURPLE
That's like saying "what rain" when living in the UK
and blue

Brother there's high tree foliage in your FOV constantly
I saw 
you actually just calling 90% of the playerbase's guilds shit
crazy

Does this factor in that option costing 60 more crests
Is this you?
spotted outside this morning
2h craft is always best buck for your money (crests)
they look sleepy so maybe
So hc kriss > max craft (gilded) 2h staff?
Sim it
its more like 30 more crests right, to max out 710 dagger
oh yea just the 30 then
Enchanted runed crest gang
Hey folks. Ive made a logs from few dungeons (mixed pug/premade + im playing balance druid first time after many years of healing). Can anyone check on them, and tell me what Im doing wrong that people reach 2, sometimes even 3m more overall on a same keys. I know there is a lot of factors but im for sure doing something wrong and this would help me improve 🙂
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Vk2wNG6QyHcR1qf4
End of campaign quest gives enchanted runed crest
finish campaign and kill dimensius on any difficulty (story mode)
so even you can get it kekkers
or well in 4 weeks
deleted what
the rune crest

Why r we casting 3 wraths when we should be pressing incarn and starfireing
Floodgate u can double incarn that first pull, probably for another few weeks til people get gear
Or u push higher
Nah we pushin dawg
And when doing so, u get 2 dreamstate stacks to cast starfires. Then u woe, casts 3... It's a lot of damage
Mine propably
Gets home, @raider keys log on now ratas.
Huh
nvm 😄
Yee, just gets worse and worse
But I don't see anything necessarily wrong with ur dotting but I can't look at replay soooo idk if ur missing mobs.
what i like to do
Might be some not holding a Starfall for end of starlord type stuff
Some of it is cast sequencing
Soooo true man
Owlkin healer mechanic, change my mind
Anyone know if 2p2p is better than old 4p myth pieces?
Perfect ty
I enjoy starfire slamming harder than starsurge with 2p/2p
are yall platers green, i cant tell if its my plater profiel or the addon itself
it's buggerino
can try turning of target highlight
or swap it around to an effect that's less green
question about 2p/2p, do we start using the new useage of CA with just 2pc or only when we get 4pc?
oh nvm, i just had to read, guess when we get 4pc
Yeah 4pc
What are you struggling with?
nothing, I got it now
also I dunno if anyone was caught up but plater update
to fix the green shits
I updated it just now, so should be fine
dope
I LOVE achronyms
Some specs are beating out moonkins in the cringe about balance department this tier and that's WILD

100% true
Hey guys. Im kind of new to balance and had a quick question i couldnt find on icy veins or wowhead guides. If im playing keeper of the grove. At how many targets do i switch to starfall and how many targets should i lunar eclipse into starfire?
You couldn't find it?
In any case use the compendium in the pins instead
It's more up to date and goes further in depth
Didnt see the pinned comment ill give it a read
at the top yeah
might need to click a dropdown or two to get all the info
but the compendium has it all
Depends on ur talents
If you're using kindling it's 2+, w/o it's 3+
damn im getting dms cause i have high io rn..........

did i make it........
should i stream...
high io?
lol
Froyo, more like Froio
They accusing you of buying boosts?
whats high io froyo?
2.6
nahhh no way
Sorry if this id a pedantic question, since dotting is higher prio than not-overcapping (during pull) does this mean u still want to 100% dot all mobs instead of throwing a starfall to not overcap?
I'm 2.6??
pedantic cuz u know 1 gcd to not overcap is intuitive ig
That's all 10s no way dawg
preferably you don't reach a situation where you overcap either way
else just send the starfall
all 10s is literally impossible atm
is it?
Ur dumb
i will in 30min dw, going in PSF now
also that was a yoke
ah ok XD
ye im sure ppl have all 13s
insane
Also don't overcap, idk if someone already said that
thanks
yup
but like it also kind of says that
but then the line that says that is after the dotting line
so I see the confusion
Yea it's also more important now to send that Starfall before incarn
streets is the worst dungeon of all time i think
Cuz tier damage is based around u gaining asp
right in line with tol dagor
oh god fuck tol dagor
whats the dealio here
Uhh, NL week one still worst
30 min timer, 5 bosses, 5 min each, 3 min of rp?
ya tahts true
You reafirmed his point
does anyone know in plater where the setting is to dim the bars of monsters youre in combat with? Naguuras plater profile has this enabled and im hating
keep it mind that it's easy to pull aggro if you have a rolling starfall while dotting
for the next pull
ask naguura?
only caveat
Hes scared of women
Figured
well if she was streaming i would?
she's in here
You can literally tag her right now
I have manners
About that..
I also am not sure she actually set it all up herself or had someone do it so who knows if she even is aware ofthat specific setting
so you're calling her dumb? woa
Bro its a ping
@main narwhal Hope it's not a bother but our buddy Emnithy here really wanted to know this
There you go bud
Idk about the "kind" bit
Gonna get ravec banned for pinging
A soul probably?
JK i foudn the problem

apparently the profile sets the nameplates of mobs not in combat with you translucent and dummies count as not im combat
i do have a worse problem now 

what the fuck are those green outlines
can we stop bully please
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gHnPQ8vcxLNdvZ8PGLmvtt This is my gear, i have 74 gilded crests, and i was wondering what my first craft should be 🙂 if anyone could help that would be appreciated 🙂
i have it hard enough
no
U don't craft this week
😏
ferals are always toxic
?
😳
would EC on araz work with all the extra orbs ? or is KoTG still better
U make a decision next week either after vault, after heroic clear, or after first bosses of mythic
oh ok - cheerrs 🙂
I'm tempted to see EC, but ST is more important for said fight
Arctic can u sing like a kpop female idol
No
Gna gna gna gna gna gnarly
we all know JUMP is it right now mattiu






