(prot)
#balance
delicate perch
potent cargo
u dont need to learn routes bro
drifting nova
last time I went prot for dungeons was again last season bfa
potent cargo
u just press w
drifting nova
when it was busted
potent cargo
the % figures itself out
drifting nova
s4 baf was nuts
delicate perch
just blame that
potent cargo
if u overpull just say it was dps pulling extra, if u under pull just say "lust timings, will get more after boss"
drifting nova
thunderclaps everywhere
digital berry
thunderclap this bussy
wheat rivet
should we break the undermine 4 set tier bonus to get the karesh 2 set? to have 2 and 2 now?
drifting nova
drifting nova
should we break the undermine 4 set tier bonus to get the karesh 2 set? to hav...
if myth prob not, if hc maybe 
wheat rivet
ty @drifting nova
pseudo merlin
Are we just going to let this person go about their day with some kekkers advice
digital berry
there is no way blud just said that
delicate perch
lmfaoooo
drifting nova
just woke up, raring to go
digital berry
2p2p is a dps gain champ track
delicate perch
ty <@253616853157412865>
he lied
drifting nova
he didnt even play last tier
pseudo merlin
Lying implies intent
drifting nova
pseudo merlin
Kekkers doesn't know any better
drifting nova
the ec st build is kinda cool
pseudo merlin
what are the odds that the (+3) stands for +3 million
red nymph
why does the kotw set bonus say it does SS damage at 300% effectiveness and then does less than my normal SS
delicate perch
red nymph
"casts starsurge at 360% effectiveness"
delicate perch
boomkin sucks but losing to tanks is insane
lofty depot
"casts starsurge at 360% effectiveness"
well we have more modifers than it
maiden pasture
anyone notice dots falling off of one the soulhunters randomly?
digital berry
anyone notice dots falling off of one the soulhunters randomly?
nope
holy fuck heroic dimensius HURTS
i'm just fighbting for my life
dense steeple
sadge
celest narwhal
heroic?
dense steeple
of course ||not||
viral cliff
thanks ara kara I gu ess
dense steeple
i got that same thing last week
pseudo merlin
isnt wrist like your only crafted slot
and belt i guess
or what are yall crafting
viral cliff
OH, Bracers or weapon depends on vault
dense steeple
we're gonna find out onj tuesday thats for sure
pseudo merlin
is that a threat
dense steeple
promise
dense steeple
that is kinda huge
delicate perch
the "this week" part is kinda toxic
digital berry
i legit dont understand that
delicate perch
what is not to understand 
digital berry
what does that even change
delicate perch
early boss loot scaling up to end boss loot saving crests early?
lofty depot
Wait why the fuck did you skim over this Arctic
cuz i got a cloak
austere juniper
is it worth to drop 4set for 2+2?
pseudo merlin
yeah same
lofty depot
and i want a new item
lofty depot
is it worth to drop 4set for 2+2?
yes
pseudo merlin
wait is vault only 2 mythic bosses
op
That week 2 vault astral antenna on mythic is gonne go hard af
harsh herald
I got a belt from the timewalking weekly, and then a cloak like you from raid
pseudo merlin
harsh herald
Logged off so quick...
pseudo merlin
I bet
harsh herald
But then logged back on because what else am I supposed to do
pseudo merlin
relatable
normal pilot
the tragedy of the wow player, in 2 parts
delicate perch
so glad I was too lazy to do it early in the week
pseudo merlin
That's me with any game I play
"I'm super dissatisfied with the direction and lack of proper changes, but I also don't have anything else to do so I can't vote with my wallet"
Guess I'll just buy the ultimate edition again
modest delta
just finished raiding for the week and I can't figure out why my parses are so awful. Any chickens out there that can help point out anything obvious im missing? Bloomumz
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vzgxLdF6DKh8j1fX
sacred tulip
anyone found a useful tracker for gathering moonlight?
ebon plover
anyone found a useful tracker for gathering moonlight?
i second this
leaden birch
just finished raiding for the week and I can't figure out why my parses are so a...
quick peek but I think you were in cleave for plexus sentinel
in your opener I would also sunfire > moonfire > treants > CA + dump ap > convoke
dense steeple
in your opener I would also sunfire > moonfire > treants > CA + dump ap > convok...
i mean he MOSTLY did that
upper anvil
howdy, im trying to learn, single target bossing i get, but how do i play in where theres multiple mobs/adds spawning, like the new soulbinder dude
leaden birch
opener is also wrong for new 4p
i didn't realize he has 4p
i can't help with that
i have 4p but i've barely played kotg to even know the opener lmao
some shit about holding treants 
dense steeple
hes only got 2pc from what i saw
oh he got fed 4pc
nvm
i was only looking at boss 1
digital berry
just finished raiding for the week and I can't figure out why my parses are so a...
Tons of ap dumping , tons of walking around without casting, not using wild charge enough, triple starfire at times
dense steeple
bedge time cant look at this
leaden birch
wdym ap dumping
digital berry
Just randomly dumping 4 surges and then not having any asp for movement
leaden birch
true
digital berry
He got fed 4p im at 1p such is life
digital berry
Waiting on crafts
digital berry
howdy, im trying to learn, single target bossing i get, but how do i play in whe...
The trio boss you just ec
sand rain
Just curious, why are you waiting?
leaden birch
vault
digital berry
What would crafting now accomplish
upper anvil
The trio boss you just ec
soulbinder naazindhri i assume is just EC then?
leaden birch
either I craft 2h or take a myth wep and craft 2 embs
digital berry
soulbinder naazindhri i assume is just EC then?
Ehhhh i doubt it, that’s just an add fight
ripe slate
do shields prevent the 4p from stacking any damage 🤔
sand rain
So if you have heroic voidglass, would you craft the offhand?
upper anvil
is it just enter lunar then dump starfall?
leaden birch
soulbinder naazindhri i assume is just EC then?
I'd check wcl and see what top players are running rn for cleave
digital berry
If i had heroic void I would grind for a heroic offhand
leaden birch
I too am a bit confused about cleave, not too sure if we can just take some ST talents and move them into twin moons and aetherial or smth
digital berry
is it just enter lunar then dump starfall?
Idk if I’d even enter lunar, mobs aren’t that tanky they die fast
Aetterial has value only if shit lives past dot duration, which tbh is lowkey doesn’t on most add fights in heroic
sand rain
If i had heroic void I would grind for a heroic offhand
Whats the logic behind that. Are you saving gilded for tier pieces or mh?
digital berry
Whats the logic behind that. Are you saving gilded for tier pieces or mh?
Im waiting for vault, what if you craft offhand and vault offers myth track 2h
olive ice
if already have 4set should i play grove? or stay elune chosen in m+?
olive ice
thanks!
sand rain
Im waiting for vault, what if you craft offhand and vault offers myth track 2h
Get tokens for gem lol.
Idk the sims compared from heroic voidglass, crafted oh and a myth 2h
But my thinking is just since we are going to craft the OH regardless, why not now
(with having a heroic voidglass)
digital berry
Not at the pc so can’t sim it
I don’t suppose heroic void + crafted oh beats 2h myth track
Might be wrong
iron chasm
I doubt it’d be even close in intellect
Int is king with weapons/oh can worry about secondary stats later
digital berry
Show sim
Damn tho I’m on mobile I can’t even look into it too much
Is that weapon myth track max upgraded ?
Did you reshuffle embellishments ?
sand rain
Wait
let me redo
Ok, 2h sims 60k higher
Big IF if drops on vault
and the voidglass specifically
digital berry
And that sim only has one embellishment no
So with 2 duskthreads it would be even higher
digital berry
and the voidglass specifically
Yeah i mean that’s why I’m waiting for vault
edgy isle
Once we get 4 piece of new tier swaping to kotg on mplus or nah??
tardy hare
digital berry
On low keys you can play one button rotation too
warm ridge
Is 2p/2p a viable option for m+? Or just wait out for 4set
merry crow
i use that staff too
meager storm
calm spruce
best for m+ KOTG or Elune?
eternal lily
Elune
vital hound
who is this busta coping my look
copper terrace
Hi all, new boomie here, just 2 noob questions to clarify...
(1) if my tank pulled 40+ targets....do i put all dots on all of em.....? -.-
(2) if Starlord is expiring, is it ok to cap astral power? and for how long?
pseudo merlin
copper terrace
so we rather not have enough astral power to instantly stack starlord to 3 stacks than capping it?
meager storm
u will lose more dmg from capping ap than not having enough ap to insta stack starlord to 3
copper terrace
mm ok thank you! 😄
sudden pawn
Dak.
meager storm
hello
meager storm
dawn flower
guide
meager storm
pins
pseudo merlin
!guide
full sleet
is boomie ranked low on lists for m+ only because of ST? becuase i feel like the aoe is still good
pseudo merlin
!ghid
livid jay
Guys when are we closing down the balance channel in protest?
pseudo merlin
I say we do it now
livid jay
xD
livid jay
livid jay
I got banned from ret discord
hahaha
livid jay
gg
frigid stratus
if you have new 2 set, would you run 2set + 2set in m+ as elune or stick to old 4set?
pseudo merlin
there's no way someone gets paid to balance this game
livid jay
there's no way someone gets paid to balance this game
unpaid interns or clankers im telling you
meager storm
if you have new 2 set, would you run 2set + 2set in m+ as elune or stick to old ...
2set 2set
pseudo merlin
nah an unpaid intern would try to do a good job in order to land a paid gig
meager storm
EC 2set is very strong on m+
pseudo merlin
idk what a clanker is but that sounds about right
Bolas isnt wrong
For the past 4 tiers ret has been one of the worst specs in the game at the start of a tier
meager storm
bit dramatic
pseudo merlin
Then after 10 consecutive buffs finally becomes good when a tier is over
it's factually accurate
full sleet
it might actually work for ret since its like a quarter of the dps player base
meager storm
so boomy but painted pink
meager storm
still dramatic
pseudo merlin
🤡
lofty depot
so boomy but painted pink
boomie on soulbinderrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
(doesnt play rotation properly)
tragicccccccc
livid jay
nah an unpaid intern would try to do a good job in order to land a paid gig
thats not how u get jobs at blizzard
meager storm
well dimensius has grippable adds on heroic, and mythic i assume
lofty depot
most actualyl dont have 4p lol they ahve 2p2p
round field
I'm parsing 99s and I'm below tanks on dmg
livid jay
idk what a clanker is but that sounds about right
clanker is a slur for AI's
round field
pseudo merlin
thats not how u get jobs at blizzard
Yeah they don't hire people that actually work
pseudo merlin
😂
pseudo merlin
why
round field
And i saved all my important addon and weakaura settings
EXCEPT MY DOT COLOR CHANGE PLATER SCRIPT
pseudo merlin
Idk game was running like complete shit
Nah you made that sound like you had quit the game and you caved and reinstalled
lmao
round field
No but none of the ones on wago work for me and i had to do my own 
round field
Nah you made that sound like you had quit the game and you caved and reinstalled
Nooooo lmao
flat locust
Hi, guys!
Are there any changes to the rotation compared to Season 2? For Elune and Keeper? Or is it the same gameplay as before?
flat locust
Thanks! ❤️
pseudo merlin
I cant play without dot colors
crazy
latent crystal
What craft do you recommend ? Wrist ? Weapon ?
night kestrel
Any recommendations for best balance druid youtubers for POVS, guides and general boomy discussion?
distant pond
Hey guys, i have a question, can u help me? It seems that this elune's chosen tier set makes starfire deal a lot more dmg (even more than spenders sometimes). Is there a scenario where in some target count we spend more time casting starfire than starfall (overcaping astral power in this process)?
pseudo merlin
naguura
round field
Hey guys, i have a question, can u help me? It seems that this elune's chosen ti...
no
because overcapping ap disables your tier set
starfire wont cast surges if it doesnt gen ap
(dumb fucking design actually)
pseudo merlin
Good gameplay povs from dwilkz too, but not guides and what you were after
Don't really know of anyone else who does that other than Gamz doing a video format compendium
night kestrel
Good gameplay povs from dwilkz too, but not guides and what you were after
Thats perfect I wanted a good pov youtuber as well thank you 🙂
distant pond
starfire wont cast surges if it doesnt gen ap
good to know, thank you 😄
stray abyss
How do you guys do in m+? Trying out arcane this season but damn, miss my balance Druid. Thinking about just going back to it haha
round field
getting gapped by hunters and dks
hazy storm
sup boomies
livid jay
idk what a clanker is but that sounds about right
dugeons
livid jay
was it not fixed back then?
meager storm
that sht was an issue on shadowlands pretty sure
livid jay
yea
meager storm
well that would be insane to break something that was fixed
but who knows
its blizzard
loud kettle
Different people
loud kettle
they fired all of the sl devs
pseudo merlin
SL had devs?
loud kettle
Ya
pseudo merlin
crazy
vital hound
that sht was an issue on shadowlands pretty sure
they said in SL they fixed it
meager storm
unlucky
vital hound
anyone know where i can find the settings for my dots in plater
tryna send smolder/pressure/wt to the gulag
idgaf
about em
blacklist em
fuck im smart
easiest game of my life
scarlet tapir
@vital hound @lucid olive @wicked shuttle what are you guys opinion on ret disc being closed until buff hotfix lmfao. Should start doing the same here
vital hound
<@126112819476168705>
up the wahs
vital hound
<@126112819476168705> <@147914503588282368> <@181597658438172682> what are you g...
definitely
wicked shuttle
i think that is one of the dumbest fucking things ive ever seen
a class discord is to help people play a spec
and disseminate information. not to protest blizzard's class balancing
royal zenith
think it's one of the most insane things I've seen in a while
vital hound
and disseminate information. not to protest blizzard's class balancing
incorrect
this is your personal mouthpiece
for influencing boomkin changes
wicked shuttle
ill just make a forum post and / or y outube video xdd
vital hound
twitter dot com
wicked shuttle
or just rt gamz
wicked shuttle
i dont like tweeting about moonkin bc people are not normal whenever i give my opinion
royal zenith
cat bag owns
meager storm
if it works all discords will be closing just cuz they dont have the tuning they wish to have 
vital hound
bro is acting like a reddit mod
royal zenith
DK's pinging for raidbuffs, Mages pinging to get their local simmer unbanned and now Ret
it's already happening
wdym
lucid olive
i dont like tweeting about moonkin bc people are not normal whenever i give my o...
real
lucid olive
but also just rip an at everyone to let the masses know that moonkin is bad and we won't stand for it
royal zenith
norrinir
royal zenith
wicked shuttle
And imo it’s impolite and out of the scope of a class discord
livid jay
we dont do morals here
lucid olive
should've shut down dreamgrove when blizzard made the cap 6x
wicked shuttle
Xdd
livid jay
Any predictions on our chances to be in the Roster of the RTWF kills?
lucid olive
yeah i predict that we wont
snow elm
i have 2/2pc and my elunes is higher st than kotg rn XD
cloud citrus
boomy for dimensius
lucid olive
i can believe that
indigo barn
Rets throwing bigger fit then arcane mages when they had to change apl every week
lucid olive
porom the creature
round field
yuck
livid jay
ok but
indigo barn
Post the sim itself so we can see whatever you cooked up lol
livid jay
with the damage amps in the raid its prolly gonna be keeper better?
also how do u even have 2pc without having 4pc this season 😄
round field
wdym
indigo barn
I have 2 pc as well, i refuse to catalyst champion gear and no drops yet
royal zenith
😄
indigo barn
Yeah we raided first two days, its dumb af, need time to spam keys
indigo barn
Got lfr tier for shaman as well, stupid loot council addon found it and almost cost me tier for my main because it showed as received token 💀
cedar seal
The opener with the new 4 piece is something to put it nicely- Any tips other than spending 3 hours at the dummy to Train it ? 
vital hound
cedar seal
So L2P basically got it - will suffer in dornogal for a few hours then 
wicked shuttle
https://gyazo.com/08c4ed4efa30201780fc1fb527995488
Too much haste I c
snow elm
i make do with what i have DX
wicked shuttle
The opener with the new 4 piece is something to put it nicely- Any tips other th...
What part do you think is hard about it
Just delay trees 2 globals until after your surges
Then you convoke
vital hound
Listen up I don’t think you understand how hard it is to play Ret [Retribution Paladin]. All this talk that we are “busted” and “constantly complaining for more buffs” just doesnt make sense. We are one of the few classes that FINALLY get to shine after all these years (looking at you MAGES ). Rotationally, its very complex for what we have to do to do “good” damage. Not only do we have to keep our Holy Power in check , we ALSO have to make sure our Final Reckoning AND our Wake of Ashes is in the perfect spot to do ANY damage. We lose everything if you guys move at all. Classes like Mage and Enhancement Shamans don’t have to worry about these issues like WE do. On top of all of this, the apm it takes to play Ret [Retribution Paladin] is more than any other class has ever been. We are constantly getting FLOODED with Holy Power and if we ever overcap, its gg (that means good game). When I’m playing Ret [Retribution Paladin], I’m never not pressing a button while mages get to sit there and hard cast Pyroblast (3 [three] second cast btw [by the way]). I’d like to see other people even try and compete with me as a Ret [Retribution Paladin] because they would crumble under the weight of all the responsibility, apm, and mental pressure it takes to pull off what I can do. Whatever, I’m out, I gotta go do some high keys now, pushing for that 2k (2,000 [two thousand]) rating, later nerds.
lucid olive
Too much haste I c
i'm prepped for 4pc
Just need a head and chest from m+ to catalyze and I'm all 4pced up
wicked shuttle
Bro I’m trying to farm all the gear I can. I have SO much haste rn still
I won’t get 4 set until next week
heady sentinel
How many haste we need with 4pc?
wicked shuttle
0
lucid olive
The amount that you get from your tier pieces
lucid olive
yeah that thing owns
wicked shuttle
Need priory ring too probably
wicked shuttle
Oh wow your gear rocks
lucid olive
I need to finish the 4pc
wicked shuttle
I’m 700 in bags
vital hound
I’m trying to get the Floodgate neck of all things
wicked shuttle
But can’t really wear anything still
round field
i keep getting warbound mail gear instead of loot for my character
lucid olive
I got the random heroic boots from my split cause we only dropped 1 of the leather DH boots
lucid olive
and it went to the other leather wearer since the other boots were vers/mast
wicked shuttle
It’s mast vers
vital hound
lucid olive
yee but these are decent stats for me, so the cantrip boots went to DH guy instead since only 1 of em
lucid olive
which is fair, everyone ends up getting the cantrip boots eventually anyway
@wicked shuttle i'm 87k in queue for MCR tickets..
do I get in
wicked shuttle
Hell no
vital hound
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pSkfS1SayZgCMrMpwvxgyv
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k9D8kQudhiweUryMU9ckqv
get yo numbies up
wicked shuttle
Praying for you though
lucid olive
lucid olive
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k9D8kQudhiweUryMU9ckqv
get yo numbies up
you're swimming
vital hound
im yuge
lucid olive
kind of glad we're in a season where you don't auto craft 2h
heady sentinel
Btw, if we dont want haste we need mastery and versa/crit right?
vital hound
kind of glad we're in a season where you don't auto craft 2h
agreed
and having 2x cantrip weapons
lucid olive
but also if you play m+ and don't raid mythic you should probably just stock up on haste instead
EC loves haste
wicked shuttle
kind of glad we're in a season where you don't auto craft 2h
Bro I got given the heroic 2h
Idk wtf I’m supposed to do
lucid olive
my voidglass weapon is champ track gg
wicked shuttle
Like I’m just wearing it
But idk wtf I’m crafting
No shot I craft a 2h over top that staff
wicked shuttle
go wrist belt dawnthread
I might craft a tier slot with dawn ngl
lucid olive
I think crafting 2h is better than the staff, but probably you should aim to have the dagger instead at some point idk
wicked shuttle
Depending on what happens
lucid olive
yeah but theres next week too
wicked shuttle
Oh yeah sure
lucid olive
you're not in this week anyway cause no 4pc right so no need to rush a craft
vital hound
I might craft a tier slot with dawn ngl
ya i have hands crafted rn
wicked shuttle
I think I’m just gonna craft bracer + off slot dawn for a while
And yeah I’m not crafting until Tuesday
No point in crafting for one raid night that I’m unlikely to be in on bc I have no gear
lucid olive
Whenever I checked, the Voidglass dagger on 710 + 720 off-hand with ascension + 704 wrists with the free Runed Crest craft is better than crafted 2h by like little less than 1%
but ofc that assumes you get dagger from heroic
but the 1h mace from first boss is also close to that so who knows
vital hound
lucid olive
also can you tell Blizzard to not increase hero and myth track when turbo boost comes
that shit turbo sucks
vital hound
2late
lucid olive
i know but i'm mad about it
wicked shuttle
also can you tell Blizzard to not increase hero and myth track when turbo boost ...
vital hound
and the poopie players (aka me) get to clear raid fast and slam keys
rich jewel
https://x.com/Jet_Limit1/status/1955994204795965660
Based
wicked shuttle
Over
lucid olive
I had so much fun in start of season 2 playing like 8 different characters that were decent geared and then they increased hero and myth track ceilings and i had to get like 400 crests on all of them
meager storm
alright
lucid olive
LOL
wicked shuttle
Hell no
dire lake
Its probably somewhere up there but dont know if I'll see it scrolling up. Can I go 2pc 2pcm
vital hound
vital hound
Its probably somewhere up there but dont know if I'll see it scrolling up. Can I...
yer
wicked shuttle
Its probably somewhere up there but dont know if I'll see it scrolling up. Can I...
Yea
dire lake
And its stil the same that you Play EC in keys and KoTG Raid?
lucid olive
yes
round field
login brokie
IM LOGGED IN
rotund acorn
for m+ once we get 4 peice do we go back to EC, or is KOTG still better?
lucid olive
you'd just play EC in m+ regardless of tier pieces
astral knoll
idk why but i think KOTG is better that EC, its my personal feeling
fossil hemlock
also can you tell Blizzard to not increase hero and myth track when turbo boost ...
At least now you know early so you can stockpile weathered and carved crests to insta bump up to gilded
lucid olive
At least now you know early so you can stockpile weathered and carved crests to ...
bummer that they removed the weathered crests you got from flying through the orbs in the sky
fossil hemlock
Yeah but you still get a shitton from weekly stuff while farming, the main thing that got people last turbo was that they upgraded lower crests to gilded on weekly reset instead of just doing the content and getting crests
lucid olive
i'm not gonna have a big amount of weathered on more than like 2 characters
spare fjord
What is fluffy pillow ?
lucid olive
its the name of the target
inner vault
!belt
lucid olive
spark inlet
I'm sorry if this is not allowed in this chat, but can someone explain to me the difference between Keeper and Elune? Last season I went Keeper and felt really good but now this season everywhere is saying to use Elune?
lucid olive
where is it saying to use elune
Keeper better in raid, EC better in m+
Same as season 1 and season 2
spark inlet
I was browsing Icy, but I'm at a loss on what is legit or not.
lucid olive
use the Dreamgrove Compendium
spark inlet
use the Dreamgrove Compendium
Ok, thank you so much. Sorry to bother
lucid olive
It's no problem
royal zenith
think bora hasn't had the time to update it yet
lucid olive
Can ask anything you're curious about don't have to be sorry
spark inlet
I tried Elune and it just doesnt feel right to me, so I might go back to Keeper.
next pilot
Hi, question, i sim for about 3.6mil st with new 4p but on my last hc araz attempt i did like 2.7mil
Is that a skill issue ?
lucid olive
probably
astral knoll
I tried Elune and it just doesnt feel right to me, so I might go back to Keeper.
Same here
tawny cloud
Its two differnet playstyles. But when you get used to elune, i feel its easier to play with it than Keeper.
spark inlet
Maybe I'm just so used to Keeper for two seasons that I just didnt give it enough time
copper vortex
guys, with kotg 2p we chage to the new rotation? 2 ca in the opening
tawny cloud
Dont think so. We dont get the 2 powered surges before 4peices
copper vortex
It's what I imagined, thks
tawny cloud
Question about gems. With the the culminating Blasphermite?
Do we use all same type gem in slots or different types?
Does it give the int stat pr different gem or only the critt%?
idle mantle
Hi folks. Cheeky question. Im not a big key pusher as balance. Doing around 5m overall on keys like 9/10 is okeyish? I know there is a lot of factors for dps but i just want to know if im far behind or doing ok 😄
tawny cloud
And pulls. 😅
idle mantle
Yeah mostly pugs 😄
But that low end worried me xd
I was healing before as rshammy and now im "learning" dpsing on keys
harsh herald
Yeah I think it's tough pugging 10's right now because tanks are only pulling what they can survive
Should hopefully get better in a couple weeks
round field
Yeah but its also
royal zenith
don't take peoples word for it
harsh herald
Also a factor
upper surge
Soulbreaker Sigil being better than ara kara sacbrood was a betrayal I didn't see coming
round field
Sacbrood sucks
upper surge
all of the bosses are fucking tedious garbage
floodgate worse though, probably my least favourite dungeon in a while
tawny cloud
Did they buff arakara? It felt like mobs hit like a truck in there.
minor swift
Hey everyone - really struggled with my parses in the normal raid last night (like, all grey), but in LFR I parsed all blue. Not sure what I am doing wrong, I usually follow wowhead and in the Normal raid I also used hekili every now and then. Any advice?
lucid olive
a lot more poisons before the 2nd miniboss
lucid olive
people just remember using sacbrood in season 1 cause there were 0 other good equip trinkets in that season and then voted for it
harsh herald
And jesus christ
lucid olive
i just played guardian for most of my keys
tulip snow
I am so mad people voted for AraKara man
I fear my group rages about this and how the community sucks for choosing trinkets over good dungeons
round field
people just remember using sacbrood in season 1 cause there were 0 other good eq...
Yea there was like no passive options
Either sacbrood
Or the dogshit ovinax trinket
lucid olive
it was the same in DF right
harsh herald
candle homie trinket
lucid olive
when season 4 came everyone thought feather was still good
harsh herald
for season 1
lucid olive
cause they used it in season 1 when every trinket was dogshit
harsh herald
Standing in melee getting baited by sims
upper surge
Incorporeal essence gorger is also better for me than sacbrood or so'leah's, according to sims at least, and I hate using it
tulip snow
I fear my group rages about this and how the community sucks for choosing trinke...
blizz can balance any trinkets the want, so players are so dumb for picking that first
round field
Didnt they hard nerf feather tho
royal zenith
nah simbait works better
lucid olive
if you were getting baited by anything it was blizzard pet AI and Wayne walking into rocks on the ground
tulip snow
aren't you a paladin or somethin
lucid olive
no thats ravec
tulip snow
my bad deux
royal zenith
Im very much against people calling stuff simbait
cause if you read tooltips and use common sense you know specific trinkets are shit
and the dps it sims is correct
harsh herald
if you were getting baited by anything it was blizzard pet AI and Wayne walking ...
Think it was combo of both. Sims saying that was my best trinket in my bags, and then people in here saying i should stand in melee or the pet goes on an adventure
lucid olive
yes that's blizzard pet AI
tulip snow
if you were getting baited by anything it was blizzard pet AI and Wayne walking ...
did pirate software put those rocks there?
lucid olive
also standing in melee made the trinket perform better than your sim
upper surge
"use common sense" bruh
lucid olive
don't talk shit about Wayne
upper surge
Me when I need to use my common sense to make a choice between "increases your mastery a little bit sometimes maybe" and "summons a wax minion that may or may not consider to attack (or not) your enemies"
harsh herald
If anything I'm saying how much I loved him that I went out of my way to make his life easier
upper surge
Anyone here used Mana-Seamster's Arcane-Needle? Does it actually have any considerable impact?
lucid olive
have you simmed it
i don't imagine delve weapons being anything particularly good
especially when the effect on it doesn't do damage and the stats don't have mastery
iron chasm
anyone got a dryads favour weak aura they can throw me?
upper surge
None of the weapons I have so far differ too much in damage when simming, I'm mostly thinking about the special effect
iron chasm
https://wago.io/BoomkinTierSet
thank you gamz
maiden pasture
And dawnbreaker
why did they even vote for this one tho honestly
arakara people just wanted the trinket ig
similar to like floodgate reasoning and priory
but why wtf dawnbreaker
lucid olive
i voted rookery
easy 15m dungeon in and out, entrance is in dornogal so never have to summon or TP there
maiden pasture
eco dome is a nice fast weekly tbf
vital hound
easy 15m dungeon in and out, entrance is in dornogal so never have to summon or ...
i still tp'd
lucid olive
i use it as a 2nd hearthstone at this point
safe kite
Holy shit after playing with it the 4 set of EC might actually been the worst thing they'e ever designed.
spiral star
azhiccaran parapodia 701 worse than mug 684?
round field
Shouldnt be
fossil hemlock
Your gear probably doesn't have a lot of crit without moxie jug
And crit is very strong for new 4p
round field
Ye you actually have no crit
round field
we still play kotg or ec in m+ ?
Ec
serene elk
okay thx bro
serene elk
Get owned my random Redditor nerds
wtff
primal grove
feels like im doing 0 dmg in m+ being completly outdmged by lock and hunters (everyone got 4set), not sure if u wanna go high haste for more starfires maybe?
chrome sable
yeah reddit hates us
Green name?? Asshole!!!!
split shoal
Realistically using the one button rotation what should you expect to parse at? Maybe 50?
Gotta break it to to my friend he may be better off using it
round field
Can green log probably
heavy iris
if you use OBR youre not going to improve from where youre at though
heavy iris
your advice should be to have him read dreamgrove and go hit target dummies for awhile
junior thicket
i play elunes but my kotg needs more work
i also think i move too much, i need to be casting more
heavy iris
i got 4p right before H Dimensius last jight so i couldnt really practice playing with the tier set. Would the opener on that fight be something like W/W-dots-incarn-SSx2-trees-convoke-SS-Wx2 then incarn and dump surges? Its mainly the second incarn timing i struggle with i think
jade flume
Can check raidbots quick sim
It has a sample rotation on bottom
Which is pretty easy to read
royal zenith
Get owned my random Redditor nerds
its true
not as bad as hunters though
they need help from mages to gain more dps
chrome sable
they need help from mages to gain more dps
And I hate them for it
royal zenith
chrome sable
Wrong spec
jade flume
Im not an assholes 😡
lofty depot
i got 4p right before H Dimensius last jight so i couldnt really practice playin...
As long as ur 2ne CA is when the dryad despawns and trees has 2s left, yes
robust oracle
hey, here is another log i would like to show you. I was pretty happy with my performance overall but one thing, because i thought its wipe anyway and just desynched my cds for some extra damage at the end.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tBz6D4KwyYQCNd8h?fight=52&type=damage-done&source=22
heavy iris
Can check raidbots quick sim
thanks!
heavy iris
As long as ur 2ne CA is when the dryad despawns and trees has 2s left, yes
awesome thank you
lofty depot
Why r we casting mangle
torpid skiff
chat is this true
jade flume
No, my room is well lit because i dont like sitting in darkness
lofty depot
chat is this true
Victim complex
potent cargo
all those posts were written by morbidly obese individuals
All you need to know really
round field
Probably someone i flamed for asking a dumb question
lofty depot
Inqi nice guy, would never
round field
lofty depot
Gary on the other hand
round field
I need to go back to do keys
I got like
4 pants 2 boots
And 4 warbound mail pieces
round field
Im 688...
lofty depot
688?
round field
Bro i got 0 loot
lofty depot
That's week 0 ilvl
lofty depot
I can trade all slots but ring, belt, bracer, chest
lofty depot
Yea I got vault fucked and maybe I get tier from dimmy, but I doubt it
robust oracle
bear form for damage incoming and wanted to atleast do any damage if bear xD
so why not cast something 🙂
gusty shore
Hey hey all
I just finished Normal full run. No tier set 🤣
Have to test LFR too.
I will have tonight, Saturday and Sunday.
Still confused for what to craft, since vault gave me shits so hoping for weekend heroic raid with guildies, to see what I get
I was wondering which dungeons I should spam after getting my 2k?
Like the most valuable dungeons bis heroic drop of trinkets or weapon.
round field
Just droptimize dungeon and see what gives the best stuff
lofty depot
U spam what u need
gusty shore
Droptimizer would be helpful indeed. HAve to pull my lazy ass and just use it 😄
Thanks
jade flume
If u dont have 704 weapon then i would focus on that first
To get stronger for heroic
gusty shore
No 704 weapon yet. still 2H crafted staff 681 from S2.
Then have to focus for 2H or (1H + craft Embellish OH)
jade flume
I think crafting off hand is a bait
I would just get staff this week and craft mythic staff next week
Thats what i would do at least
obtuse merlin
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fbXfHsGc1kNyjRQXAAMzsr is something wrong with my sims ? 4p is lower than 2p2p ?
digital berry
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fbXfHsGc1kNyjRQXAAMzsr is something ...
That’s expected
gusty shore
Thats what i would do at least
Ye, I wouldn't craft nything this week either, have to see what drops from vault for next week and what I gt from the raid itself.
Then max craft either 2H itself or split OH and Wrist
robust oracle
That’s expected
will they change that soon? annoys me, as i dont have old tier set
digital berry
oh wait you mean new 4p and 2p2p?
radiant onyx
Are we wanting 2pc ASAP for M+ or is it on a sim only basis?
digital berry
Are we wanting 2pc ASAP for M+ or is it on a sim only basis?
pretty much yeah 2p2p is better then s2 4p
radiant onyx
ty ty
robust oracle
ah ok
lofty depot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fbXfHsGc1kNyjRQXAAMzsr is something ...
Change ur simc version to latest not weekly
robust oracle
but s3 4p is beter than s2 4p?
lofty depot
Yes
robust oracle
Why r we casting mangle
any other things you saw that stood out?
im just confused, because my overall parse is 1% and ilvl 4%, which is stupidly low
lofty depot
Ur casting trees wrong
tropic walrus
can boomie expect more buff ? i'm simming lower at 695 ivl 4p S3 + boots from raid than my dh friend at 680 2p S3 only :c
obtuse merlin
weekly to latest change nothing ^^
lofty depot
It's suppose to be the gcd before
robust oracle
hmm, ok
lofty depot
weekly to latest change nothing ^^
Ik, but u shouldn't be on weekly
2p is fine to swap to. And 2p2p for EC is good for m+
jade flume
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6de5hU96DG4dA8z6WxPwAX
Ur also simming less than my 685 alt boomy with garbonzo gear
So theres something up with that
lofty depot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6de5hU96DG4dA8z6WxPwAX
Think u gain from dropping UI and cosmos for soul and crashing.
No embell, and u need to drop haste
leaden birch
yall hear about the ret discord
lofty depot
That would do it
lofty depot
any other things you saw that stood out?
robust oracle
you mean the double moonfire? probably had a second target or something or had to move and didnt want to spend astral power just before ce. maybe not though xD
lofty depot
No
tropic walrus
Think u gain from dropping UI and cosmos for soul and crashing.
No embell, and...
what's UI ?
tropic walrus
That trees is before ca
even with 4p i tought it was ca 2 starsurge into tree then ca again with 2 starsurge when dryad drop ?
tropic walrus
Umbral intensity or w.e.
okok
lofty depot
He doesn't have s3 4p
robust oracle
U sent an u buffed surge
that might have been because capping on astral power. but should have before ca, ye.
junior stirrup
Worth playing 2pc2pc for m+ as EC? hadnt seen any info on it 😄
lofty depot
Yes
junior stirrup
sick ty
lofty depot
that might have been because capping on astral power. but should have before ca,...
U should've sent the surge before the dots then
But the point was the trees placement
jade flume
I feel like 2p is big for ec
I was pampn on soul huntars
But poopoo dmg on other bosses
robust oracle
does anybody know whats the damage gain from gettin 0set to s3 4set?
digital berry
sim it
why does blizz always do these stupid morning maintenances when im able to run quick keys ffs
( Servers dead 1h before scheduled start as well)
leaden birch
just sleep in instead
lofty depot
does anybody know whats the damage gain from gettin 0set to s3 4set?
Probably 20%
Can sim it tho
delicate perch
why does blizz always do these stupid morning maintenances when im able to run q...
Spawn diff 
leaden birch
yeah just move to the EU
digital berry
i am EU just living in US
delicate perch
That’s a wild choice btw
leaden birch
worst of both worlds? 
lofty depot
Soo u made a wrong choice
delicate perch
worst of both worlds? <:thinkies:578373414348259359>
lofty depot
That’s a wild choice btw
Habaaaahah
delicate perch
leaden birch
digital berry
yup
lofty depot
Same wave length, watch out
delicate perch
All boomkins share a brain cell
leaden birch
still 1 more braincell than ret pallys
delicate perch
river depot
can all boomkins share logs pls too so i no longer have greys 
digital berry
but like why the fuck are servers down 1 hour early i am at 2/8 10s broooo
leaden birch
i mean, our first raidnight was just normal and zug first boss heroic
I got a pretty shit log if you wanna see it, old 4p
digital berry
lowk who cares about logs week 1
delicate perch
lowk who cares about logs week 1
Ya legit (I died on nexus to that annoying random freeze )
river depot
digital berry
lag has been insane with a 30 man
lofty depot
but like why the fuck are servers down 1 hour early i am at 2/8 10s broooo
Not even 2k yet?
river depot
(I was dead 2 out of 3 of these fights 
)
lofty depot
First kyveza, now this?
digital berry
Not even 2k yet?
unfortunately didn't have much time to play so far, and now servers are down
lofty depot
(I was dead 2 out of 3 of these fights <:OMEGALUL:677122893661863947> )
Stop dying
leaden birch
bro I've done 3 ++10s
river depot
Stop dying
I really should yea
leaden birch
and I was getting absolutely cooked on applications to groups last night
i applied to fkin everything 
river depot
what are we doing on that laste phase of araz, where we constantly have to run btw? It sucks
jade flume
i mean, if you're not striving to log better than liquid, are you even playing?
I feel like beating liquid boomkers will be easy(they wont have any)
delicate perch
Not even 2k yet?
My mage got 2k before my Druid
lofty depot
My mage hasn't done a key yet
lofty depot
what are we doing on that laste phase of araz, where we constantly have to run b...
It do be suckin
river depot
literally
leaden birch
My mage hasn't done a key yet
your mage with 0 io will get into groups easier than a 2.5k rated boomkin
lofty depot
Maybe, but I'll make my guild do it 
jade flume
<:sadHamster:1225922714938642582>
I think we gotta do the opposite of what youre doing homie
lofty depot
I was gonna send it into liquid splits but cba'd
jade flume
And lock in
lofty depot
Too many people trying
leaden birch
<:sadHamster:1225922714938642582>
are these heroic kills
jade flume
I did splits once with rwf but never agane
river depot
are these heroic kills
yes
river depot
those kills were far from clean lol
leaden birch
but they were kills 
lofty depot
What's dirty about soulbinder
river depot
raid time over "ok last pull" and then it dies
lofty depot
How does one die on soulbinder
digital berry
na gamers come help push my +2
delicate perch
raid time over "ok last pull" and then it dies
@vital hound week 1 overtime 
river depot
How does one die on soulbinder
idk probs did something stupid and lack of defensive usage, gotta look
leaden birch
i purposefully ignored my own key this week
no fucking way am I doing a 2, that shit is aids
lofty depot
idk probs did something stupid and lack of defensive usage, gotta look
Defensive what
I swear that fight did no damage
digital berry
broo i just wnna push it to 10 to not have to beg ppl for invites
jade flume
I swear that fight did no damage
Carried by healers...
wild dune
na gamers come help push my +2
dawg its friday
lofty depot
no fucking way am I doing a 2, that shit is aids
Gang
wild dune
aint nobody doing a 2
leaden birch
only time to do 2s was on tuesday unfortunately
jade flume
Probably dont even know mukaniks...
leaden birch
doing a 2 now you're only gonna get shitters
lofty depot
Plebs can farm 6s and not have to do affixs
digital berry
who needs anything more
lofty depot
This shits crazy
digital berry
its a 2
river depot
I think I died cause i got hit by orb? don't really know tbh
leaden birch
i watched my friends try pushing their own key yesterday from 2 and it was definitely something
lofty depot
I think I died cause i got hit by orb? don't really know tbh
U should avoid that
river depot
u got a point there
lofty depot
Yea no point in doing 2s when u can +2 a 10
jade flume
Soulbinder does more dmg than most bosses from my heroic experience tbh
lofty depot
The fuck I'ma do with a 2
jade flume
At least ive healed the most on it so far
lofty depot
Do u not have a guild or
digital berry
its 9 am on a friday
river depot
ok looked it up, died cause of 2x arcane expulsion + soulrend orb
leaden birch
does anyone in australia work?
shadow sinew
Guys, I have a question if anybody knows, if I have the raid boots (the ones that make cloak to proc more), in hero track, those give you 40% extra cloak, if you upgrade them into the myth track 5/6 and 6/6 (using glided crests), do I get 40% extra or 50% like myth track boots
leaden birch
good question
round field
Well put it in the upgrade thing and check
leaden birch
good answer
pseudo merlin
You can be the science
Let us know
I would assume it would upgrade as soon as it reaches the drop level of the mythic ones
shadow sinew
thats the thing, i dont have boots xD
pseudo merlin
Time to go get some
lofty depot
Yea can u test that for me so I know, thanks
I assume it's based off where u got it from
wild dune
its very likely tied to the reward track but
wouldnt go off burning gilded on them to be the first to test
lofty depot
Well u would see if a normal person did it
pseudo merlin
I asked
lofty depot
Cuz that goes to 691 and can be upgraded easily
lofty depot
Yr
leaden birch
poggers
safe kite
Anyone else having problems with their set? Lost about 1 million dps going from 2/2 to 4 EC in m+ and when I'm checking the log it has about a 22% proc chance rather than 40 and the buff constantly just runs out.
jade flume
https://i.imgur.com/rsKdJUH.png
Mythic is 714 i think
leaden birch
maybe I get some reps in on kyveza
jade flume
You cant get hc to that, but you can get normal ones to hc ilvl
So its the only one that could work, but i assume its bound to track not ilvl
lofty depot
Brother upgraded boots icant
leaden birch
what
lofty depot
maybe I get some reps in on kyveza
Was harder last week
royal dune
hey do you use starfire or wrarth on single target playing keeper of the grove?
leaden birch
wrath
lofty depot
Anyone else having problems with their set? Lost about 1 million dps going from ...
What is 22% to proc
lofty depot
Well u need to get into solar some how
royal dune
yeye ofc
leaden birch
yeah what arctic said
livid zephyr
Hello bird people friends. In the second boss of eco dome Aldani, does starfall hit the spears or am I just traumatized and paranoid from years of our spells not hitting totems?
leaden birch
Hello bird people friends. In the second boss of eco dome Aldani, does starfall ...
I'm sure it does right
i fkin hope so
clever ibex
Balance rank 22/26 on HC logs for raid, in the dumpster /s
safe kite
What is 22% to proc
the starfire procs that stacks your moonlight, it says 40% chance but I'vde done two with it now and it's been nowhere near.
fading solar
leaden birch
ecodome is brain off so your dps doesn't even matter
lofty depot
Balance rank 22/26 on HC logs for raid, in the dumpster /s
That's also before people get tier, tragic
fading solar
what is the best belt for boomie?
fossil hemlock
the starfire procs that stacks your moonlight, it says 40% chance but I'vde done...
Are you overcapping astral power?
livid zephyr
i fkin hope so
I hope it does too so I think starfire def does because I’ve seen the splash but hard to tell over dots if starfall is cleaving them
safe kite
Are you overcapping astral power?
that's what I thought but I made sure not to cap it and couldn't get near 40 the second time around.
lofty depot
what is the best belt for boomie?
The one that Sims the highest
leaden birch
i used to main warrior
pseudo merlin
Ey look, Blizzard agrees. Pulsar W, bring it back.
leaden birch
ranged is so easy it's crazy
frozen solar
Hey guys i have both lily and forge, would u agree in keys i stay with forge and just hold incarn for it?
or swap out to lily?
lofty depot
all my homies hate that place
We timed the first 10 we did, just need gear
clever ibex
Did 8 street on my rogue, was aids
jade flume
Streets is trash for sure
livid zephyr
Ey look, Blizzard agrees. Pulsar W, bring it back.
Even provides evidence that the Pulsar W is pulsing
lofty depot
Hey guys i have both lily and forge, would u agree in keys i stay with forge and...
Araz yes
jade flume
And timer is not like the others
lofty depot
Could double on use
red nymph
balance druid doesnt look too bad if you just turn the graph upside down
digital berry
balance druid doesnt look too bad if you just turn the graph upside down
skill issue
lofty depot
Yea timing very big now with it
leaden birch
We timed the first 10 we did, just need gear
the music boss
red nymph
skill issue
turn the graph sideways?
lofty depot
Boss ezpz
leaden birch
you have to keep the buff going right or you lose a lot of dps
lofty depot
Keep ur buff up dawg
leaden birch
did you bind your extra button
lofty depot
Yes?
leaden birch
ngl I've been clicking that shit
lofty depot
Grow up
digital berry
Extra action button on f frfr on god