balance

[digital berry]

Oh well no

Youre supposed to check the box upgrade selected items

And leave them at the upgrade lvl they are at

Forgot trees , ca surge surge tree convoke

[kind wind]

sorry with trees in there too

but basically just 1 wrath post convoke

then straight into triple surge

[digital berry]

Why wrath

[kind wind]

because otherwise I am waiting

for a second

[digital berry]

Isn’t one surge enough to end dryad ?

[errant flint]

yay weapy time. 690 now

[digital berry]

You only get two buffed ones so

[drifting nova]

now is chicken in the bin

or am I going to hate gearing it

[kind wind]

oh okay I didn't realize it ends when you hit the damage cap

I thought it just ended after 10 sec

[digital berry]

It doesn’t it ends at 10 seconds

[lucid olive]

I feel like you complain no matter if it's good or not..

[drifting nova]

I'm currently playing my warrior so

complaining is my default state

[digital berry]

I think I’m just too stupid to do basic additions

[gray bison]

Should i 2 piece my two hero pieces i got from M+, and play 2 + 2 or stick with my last season bis 4 set

[lofty depot]

generally not til u raid

u should figure out what token u might get from raid

then do that

[gray bison]

4/8 h should be 6/8 at least tn

and 4/4n and 8/8 tn

[lofty depot]

so yea so what u can do

[stuck quartz]

what is causing my sunseeker shrooms to proc from moonfire when starting my dot ramp in packs?

[wraith sigil]

season 2 tier set

[digital berry]

Season 2 tier set proc shrooms when pressing ca

The dot proc is from the talent choice

[pseudo merlin]

Anyone else not have a hoa portal

I ran it on like 24 in SL

[lofty depot]

skrill prob

[pseudo merlin]

its account wide isnt it

[lofty depot]

itttttttttttttttt should be

[lucid olive]

No

Tier set can proc shroom from any direct damage, like the Moonfire application

Sunseeker only procs from Sunfire

[vital hound]

ec 2set

looks so silly

[lofty depot]

IT SLAMS

[digital berry]

Ohhh right

[vital hound]

yea just looks silly

[earnest sage]

what item do we craft first guys?

[lofty depot]

depends what u get out of ur first vault

and our first kill of myth plex

[viral cliff]

dumb question, do I go for 6/6 hero tier (wont be getting myth track for a bit unless vault with catalyst) or do I just use 60 gilded for bracers

[lofty depot]

u could if u get that piece out of ur vault 👀

[viral cliff]

already pulled hero tier out of the vault in shoulders tho

[lofty depot]

i meant next week big dawg

[viral cliff]

smarter play just wait and see with vault? if no myth track go crafted?

[lofty depot]

yessem

or if u need the power for heroic dimmy

maybe send

but that yucky

[viral cliff]

1 night a week raider here

[lofty depot]

i wouldnt send it then

[vital hound]

i sent free heroic on wrists

[lofty depot]

thats bad ass

[vital hound]

why not

type shit

[pseudo merlin]

can anyone explain the fuck happened to havoc

+11 hoa

[vital hound]

they got buffed innit

[pseudo merlin]

I mean he's got 720 glaive and like

695 total

but still

like

I got turbo gapped

lmao

[lofty pulsar]

okay.. so im still a little down about this.. i am really struggling to even break 1.5M on a raid test dummy with either Elune or Keeper.. I dont have any set items so i am kind of hoping that is playing a part in my low numbers..

[vital hound]

[lofty pulsar]

haha yep that helps me feel better

[drifting nova]

ufknwut

[drifting nova]

ok..are you 650 ilvl or

or..630

even

[pseudo merlin]

dont focus on number focus on pressing buttons, fortunately boomie isnt that complicated so it's usually pretty easy to troubleshoot

but it's very hard to say anything more without a log or a recording or something

[pseudo merlin]

?

you can craft 720 1 handers this week you know

you dingleberry

[drifting nova]

I DONT CRAFT

YOU ELDERBERRY

[pseudo merlin]

I'm not surprised

[drifting nova]

crafting needed a rework

but this just isnt it

hasnt been the entire time

[pseudo merlin]

wdym this isnt it

[warm meteor]

@lucid olive hey i saw your most recent vid, first of all ty so much. Second i love your ui, could you share the way you have changed it etc? im using atrocity's ui but i want to configure it like you have

[pseudo merlin]

holy

[digital berry]

holy glaze

[pseudo merlin]

Gamz can't handle that level of glaze

stop it

[digital berry]

he'll let it get to his head

[lofty pulsar]

sorry i had to get after my kidds, i am at item lvl 662

[drifting nova]

should def be hitting 1.5

[tropic field]

👀

[pseudo merlin]

yeah definitely don't be running around trying to make sense of numbers at 662 though, that's like questing gear

very much doubt it's anywhere remotely optimal

[digital berry]

662 probably 2k mastery 30k crit or some shit

[lofty pulsar]

this is sound advice and i know i need to try and keep at it and not get down just feel like i am doing something wrong but cant see it. as for logs i am not sure how to do that

[pseudo merlin]

You did read the compendium right?

https://www.archon.gg/wow/articles/help/getting-started

Can't wait to clear HC tomorrow and first 3 mythic and dunk on emnithy

[lofty pulsar]

i skimmed over it but will sit down and read it fully when i can

[pseudo merlin]

Definitely don't skim

Take your time and go through the whole balance section

Especially the sections on cds and ASP usage

[lofty pulsar]

i will give it a full read for sure

sorry been away from the game for a LONG time and i guess i am jsut expecting to much from myself.. let a lone this is a new class for me. from the end of vanilla to the end or Wrath (when i stopped playing) i had been playing a priest

[pseudo merlin]

Sorry

[delicate perch]

coward

[pseudo merlin]

Your expectation is to be able to perfectly play a spec you haven't even began to properly research the basics of?

That is very silly

[delicate perch]

oh

[drifting nova]

1.5m in kotg should very much be doable

[pseudo merlin]

Go over the basics and get some muscle memory and you'll be fine

Shut up kekkers

[drifting nova]

WHAT

I'M RIGHT

[pseudo merlin]

Stop

Can't wait to carry your AOTC again a few months from now

After you've done 800 pulls and your guild disbands

[delicate perch]

[lofty pulsar]

well i hope its doable.. 1.5-1.6 is what i was able to max at

[drifting nova]

at this rate prob only doing m+ and even then idk

[pseudo merlin]

Do you use teabags kekkers

[drifting nova]

is the pope catholic?

[pseudo merlin]

I think the new pope is republican

[lofty pulsar]

and yes this is very true! i had played it here and there but this is the first time i am trying to make it work with the druid. i have always enjoyed the way druid played so giving it a good try.

[pseudo merlin]

Exactly

Unreasonable expectations there

You'll be fine

[bright ginkgo]

Hey, stupid question but how viable is boomkin for m+?
Seen a lot of yt vids trashing it saying it got like a 50% nerf

[nova ocean]

It did but we were broken when that happened

[bright ginkgo]

So its aight now?

[nova ocean]

It's okay yes

[bright ginkgo]

Gotcha, thanks!

[junior stirrup]

worth equippng 2+2pc for m+ ie elunes chosen? or keep 4set until 4set

[lofty depot]

wonder what 50% theyre talking aobut

cuz ec didnt get 50

[bright ginkgo]

Cant copy exact timestamp on phone

But

https://youtu.be/rvjPMLDDRWk?si=L-IxqMbuHrNNFjzT

4:11:54

Watch from there

[digital berry]

Eww a max video

trigger warning next time pls

[vital hound]

[dense steeple]

okay tough guy

[lofty pulsar]

Well damn..

[dry compass]

why is dreamstate so shit

just doesnt work on 2/3 of pulls

[dense steeple]

be thankful youre allowed to play kotg

[dry compass]

oh dear

are you being press ganged into EC

[dense steeple]

no

im just saying

you should be thankful youre not playing EC in raid

as it was almost the reality

[teal sphinx]

nexus king is fucking sick

[dense steeple]

youre fucking sick

[dense steeple]

is there a reward for 2500 io

[teal sphinx]

xmog

[dense steeple]

oh the glowy shit?

[teal sphinx]

ye

[dense steeple]

and then mount at 3k

[teal sphinx]

yee

[dense steeple]

noted

i hit 2k

i just need to start getting into 10s now

[digital berry]

im still at 1/4 tier

[dense steeple]

2/4 and still have catalyst charge

[digital berry]

already used the ksm token?

[dense steeple]

||thats the one i still have||

[digital berry]

i am saving cata for the 4th piece

[teal sphinx]

imagine having tier

[dense steeple]

me too

i will get myth track in vault on tuesday

||it will be a piece i am already wearing tier of||

[ionic oak]

im going into next week with no tier. only up from here

[dry compass]

nexus king is a pretty banger boss

defs not cause it hasn't processed yet

[dense steeple]

truly

[celest narwhal]

is it good to craft an off hand with a 1 hander?

I see a handful pf people doing that, but i dont know the reasoning behind it, I assumed a staff like aways

[digital berry]

if you can get a myth 1h its worth it

people crafting offhands right now are... not really following any logic

most people will wait for week 2 vault

[dense steeple]

i have a heroic 1h

not a fan

[celest narwhal]

time for nexus king!

i dont even wanna try

[digital berry]

its fun

[exotic perch]

its a fun fight on heroic

[digital berry]

i mean on normal you skip 90% of the fight

its sad

[teal sphinx]

rank 31 nexus king kill

[lofty depot]

LOCKED IN

[exotic perch]

we 26 get owned

[lofty depot]

also its called salad bar

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/jet-set-radio-jsr-were-back-we're-back-sega-gif-3701588564866328273

[teal sphinx]

yea but aint you a HOF guild

we a 2 day 6 hour guild

[loud kettle]

Thought it was stepdad

[exotic perch]

sometimes

[teal sphinx]

[vital hound]

subway artist boss

[uneven magnet]

would it be a bad move to craft a 1-hand dagger since i have a 701 offhand with good stats?

or should i wait for the 2 hand craft?

[exotic perch]

if you are crafting a wep just wait

same amount of crests

[uneven magnet]

true true

[lofty depot]

better to craft oh cuz plexus drops mh

but generally u want 723 weapon

[mighty isle]

is it worth having a weakaura for the new tier since i just got 4p?

[delicate perch]

sure

[mighty isle]

don't think afenars is updated so wondering any anyone has one

[lofty depot]

use a better one

https://wago.io/OiBalance

[cloud lion]

Dsune

[mighty isle]

real

[cloud lion]

Have best one

[lofty depot]

u can just tsnipe it fron there

[fiery veldt]

keys*

[mighty isle]

ty

[vital hound]

@lofty depot

do i play around ec 4set

or just let ithappen

[meager storm]

just let it happen

unless u will go into an amp

[vital hound]

yea figured

play around moomma amp

[delicate perch]

bench vez

[muted citrus]

vezp rising

[delicate perch]

[dense gust]

do delvers bounty even dropt his week

[digital berry]

we take those

surely it will not lock in at 100

[celest geode]

wowhead and icyveins have two seperate tallent recomendations. If were running 2pc/2pc do we do EC or KotG for raid?

[vital hound]

WTF

[vital hound]

bench vez

[muted citrus]

just got priory booties

[vital hound]

@charred peak

[muted citrus]

eat shit !

[delicate perch]

@muted citrus @charred peak

[delicate perch]

[muted citrus]

<- @nance

[vital hound]

just loot these?

[muted citrus]

oh do you gys like vers lol

awkward..

oph

those

xd

[delicate perch]

[muted citrus]

havent even been in yet girl

[vital hound]

[digital berry]

Kotg

And for talent builds just follow compendium in sims

[celest geode]

tyty

Compendium is where again? In pins?

[vital hound]

its the summer of sheep

[leaden birch]

anyone else feel like the shield on the music boss in streets is a little much

[lofty depot]

LOCK THE FUCK IN

[digital berry]

Im sooo low ilvl its not even funny

Im like 689

[meager storm]

are those ilvl parses

lock in

[digital berry]

Lmao yeah

[meager storm]

[lofty depot]

no

[digital berry]

Mine was

[lofty depot]

got araz 😛 no 4p tho

[digital berry]

Then again I have 0p 10 lvls behind most

[lofty depot]

thats a big numby

[dreamy locust]

Do we break 4pc for 2p-2p in all content?

[lofty depot]

ye

[dreamy locust]

Dont see in compendium/pins but could be missing

[lofty depot]

u play ec in m+

ec m+ with mushroom and surge shit

it fucks

[delicate perch]

I dont

[lofty depot]

type shit

[dreamy locust]

https://i.imgur.com/JrCxZSL.png

This one?

Or different without 4p

[lofty depot]

i was talking about the tier

[drifting nova]

is there only 1 bountiful delve up? swear there were 4 past patches

[lofty depot]

theres 2

[drifting nova]

well theres 3, just werent loading

none in azj and under

[clever ibex]

it does, does it? I like… fucks

[leaden birch]

what talents are you guys running for new 4p cleave in raid?

[lost violet]

2x ringing deeps, 1x hallowfall 1x Isle

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/k3e4s89hsk4.gif

[patent girder]

Hey guys, trying to understand the ST keeper rotation. The overall cd's rule is to not send convoke without treants and to not send treants without CA?

[formal marsh]

And don't send CA without your keys bound

[patent girder]

That would be a big mistake!

[round field]

Ca convoke trees always together

Ca trees fine

Only trees fine

[patent girder]

Ok thank you

[lost violet]

So thos this generally means ca tress con on opener, then 2nd CA with trees, Then hold Next CA untill convi back up?

does*

[meager storm]

yes thats basically it

u can look at a fract log and see when they send to have an idea of the timers

[drifting nova]

is there an achi for cheaper upgrades still?

[modest orchid]

why am i getting this when importing dreamgrove build

[stiff maple]

any one know how to change the so'leahs buff on raidbots

[lost violet]

When you ”outgrow” you get achiev to buy the higher/next lvl for 45 crest and acc bound discount for that crest type. Same as all prev season

[vital hound]

which build

[drifting nova]

yeah but what ilvl

[lost violet]

Don’t know how to easily explain it but i’ll try.

an item has 1-6 upgrades.
1-2/6 require crest A
3-4/6 require crest B
5-6/6 require crest C

when you have upgraded/maximized all slots with items up to for example Crest B you will get crest B achievment.

[floral ocean]

all hail keeper of the grove

team keeper forever

[charred peak]

WTF

[charred peak]

WTF (2)

[vital hound]

wtf*3

[upper surge]

How is this even in dps trinket pool?

[loud kettle]

Delve moment

[meager storm]

good for kyveza

lock in

[royal zenith]

it's the new trinket for entropy obv

[livid jay]

man i goit the ahziccaran trinket first run but after nerfs it sims worse than my mugzee jug xD

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dGSHj8KLHuHhPKJ7FULFs5

xD

[iron chasm]

Not a single hero track dungeon trink sims better than jug for me either. Lily pad simmed higher than my HoC though

Honestly kind of lame not replacing jug until mythic, all of them were like 8-20k worse

[livid jay]

true, none of the dungeon trinkets sim better than jug for me either

crazy

signet at 704 8k worse

but that would be double onuse with hoc for me atm

[royal zenith]

and why would you want to replace it, if it's good?

for the sake of ilvl or?

[livid jay]

new shits cool

[iron chasm]

Because holding a last tier trinket is classic energy and I hate that

[royal zenith]

I see

[upper surge]

Trinket balance has to be miserable to do as a dev

[lofty depot]

seems od

[royal zenith]

emotions

[livid jay]

ofc emotions

[lofty depot]

when arakara simmed higher

[livid jay]

am i a clanker

[lofty depot]

at 691

[iron chasm]

Arakara didn’t sim higher even up to 5/6 hero track

[lofty depot]

show sim

[livid jay]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cuoKke6q6y5oy1rtNQ9NHp

[iron chasm]

I’ll have to re sim it

[livid jay]

same shit on mine here

lemme try newest

[lofty depot]

try latest dork

[lofty depot]

?

[iron chasm]

I’m not using weekly I’m using nightly afaik but once I’m back at my pc I’ll send it thru

[lofty depot]

show the sim

why do u need to resim

[iron chasm]

I’ve closed the tab is what that means

[livid jay]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5gSpHsfEXJaRXLuTyvTKj9

[lofty depot]

click the 3 lines

[iron chasm]

I then nuked it and did a droptimizer

[lofty depot]

or go to history

its 2025

[iron chasm]

Ah nice once I’m back at pc I’ll show u

Needed a screen break after 30 keys

[upper surge]

30 keys?

[iron chasm]

Yeah 30 keys in two days is a lot

[upper surge]

It really is

[livid jay]

yea still no trinket simming better than jug in latest raidbots thing

[iron chasm]

I stg @lofty depot if you start malding over me crafting my 1h when I link my sim

[lofty depot]

crafting 1h week 1 is a choice

[livid jay]

maybe with not droptimizer but topgear it would

[iron chasm]

I’ve done it forever and I’ll do it forever instant gratification > patience

[iron chasm]

Just add em all in top gear it’s just as easy

[lofty depot]

is close enough

and is like ur 2nd/3rd bis when u get new tier

[livid jay]

thats trinket 2

which is hoc

[lofty depot]

true

massive stonks

[iron chasm]

I simmed it with tier and it still didn’t sim higher

[livid jay]

we'll see once we get there

[worthy oak]

Guys, do you think it's worth exchanging the 4 pieces from the old tier set for 2 from the new one?

[livid jay]

yes

but sim

[humble talon]

Ran optional normal raid with guild yesterday, didnt get any tier-pieces, means I wont be fed any tier pieces in heroic raid this week either How does one cope

[lofty depot]

show them ur sim for araz

[humble talon]

🫡 🫡 🫡

[lofty depot]

\

thats a big numby

[iron chasm]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bQKz2eujJMbVw6kfKthGxJ

[livid jay]

699

[iron chasm]

thats with my pieces I can put on once I find catalyst legs

[livid jay]

oh u sim with new pieces xD

[iron chasm]

yeah ill be 699 once I get some hero legs from keys

[livid jay]

u already raided and got 1 piece and 1 from vault ye?

[lean fern]

I have a question about stats this tier in raid. Heard from somwhere that when we get 4 set we wana go crit/mast (in singel target) insted of haste/mast. Is tehre any sims for this or somewhere you can find out

[dense girder]

anyone got a good WA for the EC 4p tracker?

[iron chasm]

I got a vault piece, 1 hero track from keys, hero track gloves from raid, and Im just chasing hero legs from keys

[livid jay]

you can sim it yourself on raidbots

[iron chasm]

I'm my guilds motw (officer privilege)

[livid jay]

im my guilds motw and on lootcouncil and im not giving me tier over others xD

[iron chasm]

Tier gloves arent used by mages or hunters

[livid jay]

THAT IS GOOD TO KNOW

cause im on a split with a hunter and a mage

[upper surge]

Should balance be prioritized in regards to tierset?

[iron chasm]

no we are the lowest on our token

MM > mages > us

[livid jay]

our split is kinda fucked, 3 mystic, 3 leather in my run

bot no other way to do it

[upper surge]

What if all my guild's mages and hunters receive anonymous threats to not accept tier pieces?

[iron chasm]

see what I mean tho @lofty depot parapodia, egg and crystall all sim lower than mugs for me

[lofty depot]

parapodia got nerfed

[iron chasm]

yeah thats why they all sim lower, because it was simming higher

[lofty depot]

crystal sims close to antenna

[iron chasm]

I'll add antenna to it

[lofty depot]

mage and hunter classes gain more

kinda cvringe

[iron chasm]

yeah antenna shits on mugs

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2gZ96maJo8GEcrHtjvosp8

[worthy oak]

TKS guys

[livid jay]

in fact

this is kinda nice no

give them rats the normal pieces

take the hc ones for yourself

[worthy oak]

Are you guys doing M+? What do you think about our little owl this season?

[lofty depot]

give them hero too

[livid jay]

im blasting like fuck atm in m+

[lofty depot]

dont worry

[livid jay]

but once everyone gets gear and tier it might be different

assa broken tho

[worthy oak]

wow

[livid jay]

(+10 floodgate)

(floodgate is op u do so much damage there)

[royal zenith]

💀

[iron chasm]

710 I got an increase on those trinks, so guess I just luck out on my vault

[lofty depot]

crystal is 710 there 🙂

[livid jay]

xD

[lofty depot]

assume its a crit diffy

[livid jay]

so we need 30 ilvls to offset how good jug is

[hollow mist]

moonflora is a pretty name ^^

[livid jay]

thanks

i once had some sweaty dude whisper me in stormwind "thats a pretty name - i wonder what might happen on a meadow in the middle of the night under bright moonshine"

(im a dude)

(poor women who have to suffer shit like this all the time)

[hollow mist]

what the ._.

[lofty depot]

yea its just a crit diffy

[upper surge]

as far as creeps go this doesn't seem too bad xd

[lofty depot]

need more

[royal zenith]

you can also just swap shit on your belt and cloak

if you really want to equip other gear

add some different rings, I dunno

it's always just a stat balance

but if you're doing that, you're just trying to force your way

[plucky anvil]

Hey ! Elunes or Keeper for pure single target raiding ? Ive seen Elune a lot but i have different opinions amongst players i play with

(And i dont like Elune gameplay haha)

[livid jay]

keeper sims better but try both and play what u like more

[plucky anvil]

Yeah i dont rly like elune so i'll stick with keeper ^^

[lofty depot]

elunes isnt played on st anymore

[royal zenith]

no idea where you have seen Elune a lot

[lofty depot]

old build

[royal zenith]

it's all KOTG

[plucky anvil]

well... Ur gonna be judging but Icy veins haha

[royal zenith]

guides can be outdated

[livid jay]

the compendium pinned to this channel should be your moonkin bible from now on

[plucky anvil]

Anyway idk why i dont look for data myself ive been living by WL in S1

[plucky anvil]

And will, just discovered this discord ill dig into it Thanks

[civic gorge]

alleluja

[royal zenith]

Icy Veins also says KOTG

[plucky anvil]

We dont seem to have the same icy veins

[royal zenith]

lemme check

[plucky anvil]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/balance-druid-pve-dps-spec-builds-talents

[royal zenith]

maybe your cache is acting up

[plucky anvil]

Thats may be a thing yeah

[royal zenith]

no

you're right, that page says something different

[royal zenith]

@ancient adder pls fix!!

[lofty depot]

the page is 10 days out of date

[daring gull]

i got the normal boots that boost the wraps tonight + a heroic weapon from ulduar. poggers

[royal zenith]

yeah but then we help the guidewriter improve it

hence my question where you saw it lalox

[lofty depot]

yesyes

[royal zenith]

also I'm not using emojis cause Im lazy, so it might sound aggressive

:3

[plucky anvil]

I'll dig in the bible

cya fellow moonboys

[royal zenith]

[plucky anvil]

And thanks

[livid jay]

come back if u got any leftover questions

[plucky anvil]

✅

[upper surge]

it's moonbrethren

[livid jay]

only if they are of the elven kind

[vital hound]

any knowers

[lucid olive]

Yeah turn off all the stuff that makes it change colors

[vital hound]

is that the overlays

[astral knoll]

What is the differntz in DPS when i craft a One hand and not wait for a Two hand? is it big or very small increase?

[meager storm]

well its not really about dps, its about saving crests

two hand will cost half than upgrading/crafting one hand and upgrading/crafting offhand

which will also mean a dps increase since u will be saving crests and can use them on a trinket or other stuff

[vital hound]

show gear dak

[meager storm]

only have done first 3 heroic bosses tonight cuz we didnt have time for 2nd group

[teal warren]

EC or Kotg with new 4p in m+?

[meager storm]

ec always

even with 0 set

[teal warren]

ok thanks

[vital hound]

tier nice

[meager storm]

hero shoulders from vault and a token

saving catas for next week

[vital hound]

bomba

[meager storm]

some of u are crazy for sending it this week

[vital hound]

normal/heroic are the same

so we send

[meager storm]

gotta save minimum 1 for next week for vault

for the myth item

[vital hound]

im getting mythic momma neck

[lapis tinsel]

do we play keeper or elune in m+ with new 4set?

[vital hound]

scroll up

about 9 msgs

[lapis tinsel]

lol ok thx

i like trees dotting for me tho 🙁

[meager storm]

then send it

[lapis tinsel]

nah dmg>fun

[vital hound]

yea just play it

duzzn mata

[meager storm]

ight well start pressing moonfire 10 times in a row bud

@vital hound rep check

i am mid half way through the wqs on the first toon

[noble spindle]

[vital hound]

[meager storm]

alright

so we are not playing the game

[vital hound]

yea listen

i kinda realised

[meager storm]

listening

[vital hound]

im not parsing until

remix is out

and you've all logged off

so i've got a while

[meager storm]

[noble spindle]

im parsing normals

does that count

[meager storm]

parsing CM

lock in

[noble spindle]

bro i cannot hit S medium on my gold ship

[meager storm]

is super freak out

[noble spindle]

yeah since 2 days ago

[meager storm]

alright sending all the carrots

🙏

[vital hound]

you parse on prog
i parse on farm

we are not the same

[idle mantle]

Hey folks, quick question. Is it right that sims pushing haste over mastery? I have myth trach Cinderbrew neck, that have 2.4k Mastery and 691 neck with 1300 mastery sims higher. Is stamina/ilvl that high of an upgrade?

[meager storm]

whatever the bot says it is the right thing to do, after u get new 4 set it will make u get more crit and vers

[idle mantle]

So I shouldnt be folowing stat prio from wowhead lets say and just sim myself and follow it like dreamgrove says right?

[meager storm]

yes

[noble spindle]

its just a guideline so u have general idea of what items are good

but u should be using raidbot because statweight changes all the time depending on your stats

[idle mantle]

yeah so no more wowhead as stats prio guideline 😄

thanks!

[meager storm]

np

[idle mantle]

sorry to bother but one more thing i forgor. beside stats, talents on dreamgrove are good to follow right? or I should be checking logs or idk, archon?

[meager storm]

overall dreamgrove is best, for raid there may be some talent swaps on certain bosses so checking there is what works for me

[idle mantle]

Yeah i see planner is not updated yet but that was I want to know ❤️

[meager storm]

[prime dragon]

Hi guys

Does it make any sense to craft a chest piece as first craft?

[meager storm]

no

[prime dragon]

Thanks!

[merry ibex]

has anyone made a weakaura to track dryad duration

nvm im dumb

[tulip snow]

been thinking about this a lot for some reason, maybe cause I want to parse better on wowanalyzer

[burnt sigil]

Hello, Why using a starfire just after the 2 wrath and before doting/CA ?

[barren cove]

bc the wraths r still flying

it's a pre pull thing

[burnt sigil]

ty

[maiden pasture]

i miss her chat

[lucid olive]

Sorry it took some time to answer, my UI currently is a heavy modified version of Atrocity mixed with Fragnance. My Druid pack is Atrocity but modified, if you DM me I can share them

[lucid olive]

the parasol guys

miss them

[maiden pasture]

the fact that this was a thing

so funny man

imagine if someone had that now

its just shifting sands for aug but on frenzy ig

[lucid olive]

do you not remember the "using rebirth on someone gives them better food buff" one

that was fucking mint

having your team die before pull so you could ress them with better buff

whoever made druid soulbinds and covenant stuff was cooking

[hearty crypt]

Hello there!
Is there any good vidéo that explains boomy in détails or is it only by maxroll/wowhead ?

[livid jay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7ljpozVgsg

its advanced tho

not beginner guide

[lucid olive]

Wowhead is fine, if you want more in-depth you can read Dreamgrove Compendium

[pseudo merlin]

@royal zenith so there's no voidman dh spec?

[pseudo merlin]

You should probably never ever use maxroll

like ever

[humble talon]

is momma neck better than halkias one ?

[pseudo merlin]

sim neck is best neck

[reef surge]

kotg or elunes for m+

[royal zenith]

YET

[pseudo merlin]

You think the mythic kill might unlock it?

I think we were all just lied to

[pallid bay]

@mighty mica can u unpin my pin

🫡

[vital hound]

bro ive been dropping toys every pull what the helly

[lucid olive]

had to make it public for blizzard to do their job..

[pallid bay]

low prio..

[vital hound]

hey @lofty depot you stink

[lucid olive]

real and true

he do be stinking

[iron chasm]

Sheep the new mizual or what

[vital hound]

its rank 2 unforch

baited by not locked in

[bronze tartan]

Mmhmmm when I get back from holiday on Sunday, should I go farm m+ as Boomie or is Resto the better choice now

[eternal lily]

Elune

[lofty depot]

U stack showers shut up rat

[lofty depot]

It's ok they stuck surely

I trolled and stopped casting for like two seconds with one of the lines in p3

[pseudo merlin]

gz bro

rank 1 out of 10

[vital hound]

i hate

the opener on dimensius

[lofty depot]

Yea...... They really don't like me precasting

[loud kettle]

I heard the melee range is utter garbage

I hope i dont walk off the platform trying to hit that boss

[reef surge]

its not too bad, the constant knock backs that push you out of range are what annoy me.

[lilac citrus]

does anyone have numbers of how much % new 4 set is an upgrade

compared to old 4 set

[vital hound]

a lot

[delicate perch]

10000 billion %

[lofty depot]

Not a lot

Stupid BM/MM hunter like 30%

[cloud lion]

No1 wrote sim it, this discord is changing i dont like it

[royal zenith]

evolving

[upbeat nimbus]

On compendium 4set is like 17.2% on no tier pieces withe KoTG

[cloud lion]

This is 1st season i get 4p 1st day if i loot something to catalyst

Last season i got it after 2 weeks cuz no tier in vault

[livid jay]

well yea having 2 cata charges off the bat is kinda crazy

[cloud lion]

I think they did it cuz m+ players dont want to raid

[shrewd warren]

Is the 2pc Starfall bugged or why doesnt it show in details? i tested it a few times now and starfall always does the same dmg. tested it using CA und using starfall 1 time myself and next mob i used CA without using starfall myself and i dont see any 800% increase

[ancient adder]

@royal zenith @plucky anvil sorry yall

[royal zenith]

[plucky anvil]

No prob 😉

[lucid olive]

It should be a separate Starfall on details

Also it's 800% increased Starfall but the Dryad does not benefit from any of your stats or class modifiers

So it doesn't do a lot of dam

[shrewd warren]

aah I see

was confused because on starsurge there is a Dryad symbol and on starfall not

[lucid olive]

the Dryad Starfall also lasts a bit longer than yours does and it ticks more times

the visual for it is also misleading, since the Starfall seems to be centered around the Dryad, when the actual effect is centered around you and invisible

[valid parcel]

hey im pretty new to boomie, how should i simm for m+?

[cloud lion]

Imagine if its centered around dryad and she wanders off to africa and dont do dmg

[lucid olive]

MDT Sim or patchwerk 1 target 5 minutes

[livid jay]

xDDD

[cloud lion]

Like dk pets u just see them running around dungeon

[valid parcel]

okay thanks ! 😄

[leaden birch]

can I cheese karesh trust renown from the bountiful delves and only do the ones that give karesh trust?

[night silo]

Are we good in S3?

[leaden birch]

nope

I'm excited to see just how far behind we are once everyone get their 4p

[pliant girder]

best "Fight Style" to sim druid balance on raidbots?

[lucid olive]

patchwerk

[viral cliff]

are we good in midnight?

I saw what you deleted

[leaden birch]

anyone here use betterbags?

[stuck quartz]

Prob not the most helpful, but +10 halls - does this look like a typical damage breakdown for EC with 4set?

Max starfire was 16mil - hits like a freight train now...

[digital berry]

Not helpful at all tbh

Like I mean I guess ? No idea if you played correctly tho

[stuck quartz]

yeah fair

[leaden birch]

here's my breakdown of a +10 flood

[stuck quartz]

wow you are an elite gamer A+

[leaden birch]

we didn't time it

[digital berry]

Lmao

[leaden birch]

easily could've but out brew tank pulled like a wuss

dude was chain pulling

[digital berry]

God I hate tanks that pull one little pack at a time

Especially on key start

Like bro

[leaden birch]

man it was fkin brutal

it started off with a great first lust pull

i touched 23m on that pull

[heavy iris]

got a hero voidglass dagger so i crafted OH and just sent it to 710, big night

[leaden birch]

grats

[digital berry]

That was for sure a choice

[leaden birch]

I'm just gonna wait to craft my 2h tuesday

[heavy iris]

its not a wild choice at all i dont think

i know the 2h is the efficient play for sure

[leaden birch]

imo i wouldn't have sent the oh craft on a hero 1h

is the wep special or smth?

tbh haven't looked much at loot

[heavy iris]

its the effect dagger

off of Fract

[digital berry]

You’re choosing instant gratification over long term planning

It’s not necessarily wrong i guess

[heavy iris]

long term planning is mythic voidglass and crafted OH

[reef surge]

so how come we don't use new moon? just weaker?

[heavy iris]

so how is this that wild of a choice?

[digital berry]

What if you have a myth 2 hander in vault from m+ next week

[leaden birch]

I don't see myself killing myth fract anytime soon so 2h is ideal for me

my guild is all vibes baby

[heavy iris]

id rather take the mythic tier anyways right now

[digital berry]

Crafting week 1 is not something many people generally recommend

[heavy iris]

yeah i 100% get that

[wide dawn]

Is the best embellishment to craft is weapon and wrist or wrist and belt?

[leaden birch]

we got disc belt so, my 2nd emb will be on a 681 wrist until next spark

[merry crow]

Weapon and wrist until you can get the voidglass 2h

On myth track

[heavy iris]

voidglass 1h is what you want

[upbeat nimbus]

If you opening is messed up, does that really throw the damage out of the window.

[leaden birch]

so crit is better for us now with the new 4p?

[heavy iris]

crit/vers

[wide dawn]

We are not changing that disc belt ?

[leaden birch]

but mastery is still goat right

[heavy iris]

haste is gross

[merry crow]

Or that but it’s probably better to craft the 2h and then transition to 1h

[leaden birch]

damn, so then this devotion i got from tw raid is actually not half bad

[heavy iris]

Feels so weird crafting with crit/vers secondaries

[gentle scroll]

We are definitely dropping it

[long juniper]

Got a 1/6 hero crit/mastery staff. Would it make sense to upgrade it to 4/6 hero if I can craft a 720 staff next week?

[heavy iris]

I would just save rhe crests

[gentle scroll]

Depends if you are vibing or trying to play optimally

[heavy iris]

do you raid from now until tuesday?

if so and your guild is trying to down some bosses, sure upgrade it. If not and youre just blasting random keys, save it

[long juniper]

I do not, we also do not raid mythic.

[heavy iris]

yeah i would just wait till tuesday then spend your runed on some hero tier pieces

[leaden birch]

hmm, I'm simming a crafted 2h and crit/vers is the lowest simming

god damn a wep is a 20% dps jump though

[primal grove]

why do we have 0 good m+ trinkets lol, 684 mugzee's jug is better than every 704 ilvl trinket except for the ones in the new raid xddd

[leaden birch]

ty for making me feel worse about forgetting to spend my final dinars

[pale hollow]

dont be too sad - think they were worth 750g each as a grey item 😄

[heavy iris]

sim gonna be different for everyone based off your gear

[lavish hatch]

Sorry u probably already answered this but, should I swap 2p 2p asap? Or wait until I can equip the 4 new tier set

For raid

Hero track

[leaden birch]

2p+2p asap

[leaden birch]

[lavish hatch]

Ty

[leaden birch]

ye ofc

my sims said to swap 2p lfr asap and I had myth 4p

[modest orchid]

how do i cloak skip on alt theres no option

[leaden birch]

there should be a prompt to skip one of the very first quests in the chain

open the portal to karesh, then when you get there, there's a dude at the top of the stairs that starts the campaign

there should be a prompt there to skip

[modern merlin]

Does anyone know how to sim what stat So'leah's Secret Technique is the best?

[covert coyote]

You can do it freehand witha piece of paper and calculator but tbh id just use raidbots

[modern merlin]

Alright, thanks! Never thought of using raidbots! Now when I am on raidbots, how do I sim the different stats?

[spice hedge]

i could be dumb but is there a bis list for balance?

[stuck quartz]

are these ulduar timewalking trinkets really overtuned?

[ebon sail]

Any notable trinkets from Ulduar timewalking worth trying to get?

[maiden pasture]

ill get the ring / neck / staff soon i swear

[ebon sail]

There's one on the wowhead and on dreamgrove.

[leaden birch]

is that weapon good

from halls

[stuck quartz]

I don't see any ulduar trinkets mentioned on either website under the trinekts section. Are they hidden elsewhere?

[leaden birch]

usually they never account for a timewalking trinket

unless it's something farmable like how it was with the anniversary event

[placid olive]

got a hero track wep. now idk what to make with my spark lol

[leaden birch]

mythic wep lol

wait for tuesday

[placid olive]

yeha i guess thats the play eh

oh for sure

[leaden birch]

yep

[placid olive]

fair enough tyty

[leaden birch]

same as last season, myth crafted wep with asc on it

[spice hazel]

ulduar can drop a 2 min crit trinket which is pretty good, comparable to priory early on https://www.wowhead.com/item=45292/energy-siphon

[leaden birch]

I think I'd rather farm ecodome > priory

if I had to choose a place to farm for an on use trink rn

[spice hazel]

ya obviously, but it drops from first boss so takes you like 10 min for an attempt if you cant get into keys

[lofty depot]

That is beans

The good one is called living flame

[leaden birch]

I'm not even really commenting on ulduar lol I'm talking more about priory signet

[lofty depot]

Which is a smaller int on use and Araz, but it's like 2.5%

[leaden birch]

not farmable though right

only get 1 chance at it?

[lofty depot]

Ye

[lofty depot]

U only upgrade 3/6 items

[leaden birch]

4/6 is still hero

704

[lofty depot]

Yes

But if u upgrade it from 1/4 u use a lot of runed

Which u just farm the 3/6s from 10s

[leaden birch]

k i get what you meant now

stop yelling at me pls

[tawny cloud]

With 4 new tier peices. do you use CA 2nd time before the other one expires? or when do you throw the 2 impowered surges?

[leaden birch]

iirc from what others have said in here

you send 2nd CA with 2 seconds left on first CA

I've messed about with it on a target dummy and I hate it tbh

[lofty depot]

Maybe, gamz needs to make the "extended opener"

Or... CD sequence section

[leaden birch]

I just like dumping as much ap as I can and now I have to kinda hold it

[lofty depot]

But yes u wait to use ur 2nd ca until dryad is gone/trees has 2 gcds left

Then u can surge 2x

[leaden birch]

do we have to clip CA right when dryads leave and we get the buff

or can I just keep pumping wraths until first CA is over then CA and surge

i can prob just go play with it

[tawny cloud]

Dont know if you were sarcastic and he did update it already. been trying to read it and might have missed it 😄
but thanks for the answer 😄

[leaden birch]

hmm, on the 2nd 4p buff we get after the 2nd CA, do we hold the 2x surges for when trees are back up? it seems to line up decently

[lofty depot]

I wasn't

Lol, that's funny tho

[tawny cloud]

Could be. i guess many ask the same 3 questions all the time atm 😄

[jade jacinth]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iR6H7jH4G3F8xUGe9QJtqw Should i cata my hero legs for 2 set?

[lofty depot]

I don't see what I was gonna say

Basically taking that..... And having like pooling asp, then watching buff and pressing CA surge surge

It would be kinda awkward...

But he has a video doing it

It easier to point to

[lofty depot]

No

[loud kettle]

looking at how the timelines are written is cursed

[leaden birch]

so when do you send your 2x surges from your 2nd CA

I'm trying it now and anecdotally it hits way harder sending trees then the 2x surges

[lofty depot]

If u need extra damage some where sure

But if u can't get 4p this week and don't. U should hold it

[jade jacinth]

ok ok ty ty

[lofty depot]

Basically if u got vault tier u can get 4p by getting looted 1 token from raid and then getting 2k io

If not is kinda hard to justify giving a boomkin 2 tiers :/

Cuz the inc is low as shit

[lofty depot]

When the dryad despawns/when ur trees has 2 seconds remaining

[drowsy sedge]

yoyo you guys think keeper of grove is better or elune in M+ with 2 set?

[vital hound]

[leaden birch]

so instead of waiting for your 2nd use of trees we just try our best to send when there's only 2s left of CA?

[lofty depot]

Ec

[lofty depot]

"try your best"

U better fuggn do it

U mess up, and I'll find out

[leaden birch]

I think I'll just wait like 6 seconds to send with trees lol

easier for my tiny brain

[lofty depot]

That's doing it wrong and I'll find out

[leaden birch]

but like, is it really better to send without trees?

[lofty depot]

That be a sim question

[tame dome]

folks question re crafting weapons. What's the advantage of crafting a 2h over a 1h and offhand?

[lofty depot]

And see as we got only the best tcers.... We do it as stated

[lofty depot]

Crest save

Eventually u want Kris + OH but ur a hard pressed to get that as an upgrade. Plexus mace is a really good 2nd bis item

Which will help with power until fractilly. But u'll likely have to take it out of vault cuz everyone wants it :/

[tawny phoenix]

if i dont do raid, should i craft 2h instead?

[lofty depot]

U wait til ur vault to see if u get a weapon

But that is likely the case

[tawny phoenix]

lovu

ty

[agile nimbus]

is there any WA for the kotg 4p?

[stuck quartz]

Do we hit a point with EC where hitting SS outside of keeping starloird rolling? SF is doing nearly 3x the damage of SS now

Or am I just an idiot

[lofty depot]

In oibalance

Which is linked in conpendium

[viral cliff]

on god if I get one more flood gate

I will one button rotation

[agile nimbus]

ty

[lofty depot]

Well u don't overcap asp

But yea Starfire do be blasting

[stuck quartz]

yeah it just feels weird

max crit i've seen so far w/o a damage amp on a boss is 17.2mil

[lofty depot]

Big

[stuck quartz]

SS is around 6.5 for me

[tame dome]

thank you very much

[woven igloo]

What are we crafting for embellishments ideally here at start?

[lofty depot]

Most are likely wearing Duskthread currently

But u play ascendance when u craft a weapon/oh

[woven igloo]

Okay cheers

[royal dune]

Hey what should i craft?

[leaden birch]

wait for tuesday

2h wep

[royal dune]

ok

ty

[leaden birch]

craft it in myth though

[royal dune]

ye 720

or wdym

[leaden birch]

ye 720 ilvl

[royal dune]

great

[lofty depot]

Maybe oh

[leaden birch]

ye that too

[royal dune]

off hand?

[leaden birch]

better to say wait until tuesday and check vault

then craft accordingly

[royal dune]

i got a hero dagger and hero tier off hand

[lofty depot]

Yessem

Neither of those are mythic

[royal dune]

so just wanted to know if its was crafting anything else than weapon

ye y e i know

next week perhaps

[lofty depot]

Need to run a funny sim to see some stuff next week

[lyric fog]

Should one theoretically cancel dreamstate before going incombat? it seems then one has two charges in eclipse instead of one

[lofty depot]

In m+ u don't need to enter eclipse if ur using cds

[leaden birch]

ye dot up shit then pop cds and zug

[lofty depot]

So u save the dreamstate for starfires in incarn

[lyric fog]

okay makes sense - so technically only relevant if no CDs are up

[glacial lion]

are we waiting for week 2 with crafting for staff?

[lofty depot]

Always yes

[royal dune]

When you get tier sets are you playing the keeper of the grove or elunes chosen?

[lofty depot]

Unless ur rwf and need some power, but boomkins aren't rwf

[lofty depot]

It's the same now

Keeper in raid, EC in m+

[glacial lion]

MAKE BOOMY GREAT AGAIN!!!11!!1!

[royal dune]

sad i wanted to play the driyd stuff in m+ xd

sounds fun

[lofty depot]

U can go ahead and try it

But u'll be sad

[royal dune]

oh its that bad

sad

[lofty depot]

Keeper damage is based solely off of those dryad surges

[royal dune]

oh

[lofty depot]

Outside of incarn, u do zdps

[royal dune]

sadnewss

[lofty depot]

Because 1 for some reason is based off of CA and other off of starfire/foe

[royal dune]

ha

ah

[formal jetty]

Is the Fateweaved Needle (https://www.wowhead.com/item=219382/fateweaved-needle) weapon sim bait? i got one at 691 and its saying its 25% more with an offhand than my 684 crafted staff from last season

[quiet drift]

Do you stack 4pc before casting FoE on EC?

[oblique shard]

For the raid two-set (non-tier) , do we ever get below 25% mana?

It is listed as an A+ trinket on Dreamgrove and they mention the proc but... none of our spells really cast mana

[normal pilot]

swap spec on prepull so you start with 0 mana

[oblique shard]

ooo

[lofty depot]

Show the sim

[formal jetty]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7Riq7PHLmFxf9yZP7aApQ5

[upper anvil]

for yall that did time 10s did yall get the achievementand portal?

[round field]

yes

[upper anvil]

i timed a gambit 10 but didnt get either

[round field]

i think that dungeon

is scuffed

[vital hound]

you gotta time

both

[round field]

i have the portal from shadowlands

[vital hound]

streets and gambit

[upper anvil]

oh its both

[round field]

and it tps you into shadowlands tazavesh

but when you go in and out it puts you in new tazavesh

[upper anvil]

man that shit is lame

streets is a bad dungeon

[vital hound]

based

[round field]

true

[round field]

i mean its the same with any of the megadungeons

[royal zenith]

true

[round field]

you need both keys to get portal

[upper anvil]

didnt play the last time a mega dungeon was in pool

so didnt know

[lofty depot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/obmYLcR4MDMTQaVBH18nMQ

It's only 1%

[formal jetty]

how did you calculate that

[lofty depot]

Also ur using the wrong buff on ur belt

[formal jetty]

i just got belt today so its work in progress

[lofty depot]

There's one in the middle there

[upper anvil]

is next week key from vault highest key -1 or highest key?

[lofty depot]

When u simmed it, u didn't have weapon selected

[formal jetty]

that makes much more sense, i noob trapped myself

[lofty depot]

Assume it's -1

[formal jetty]

thank ya

[lofty depot]

Resil keys still the same?

[upper anvil]

kinda lame, i dont wanna try to time a 11 😢

[lofty depot]

I mean, will be easy

[upper anvil]

people are bad

[lofty depot]

Get a guild (they're bad too)

[upper anvil]

They're also decently bad lmao

but its ok, its a chill fun guild with some folks that push

[opaque pebble]

I'm a little confused about how to use CDs after pull with new 4 set, if I do a quick SIM will following roughly how it casts and it's timelines be correct? I haven't done it yet, just checking after reading compendium

[lofty depot]

Yes it will

[leaden birch]

[digital berry]

Haste

[leaden birch]

hey man I'm just happy about the 701 ilvl

[lofty depot]

U'll see CA then 2 surges, then trees convoke, u'll have 2ish seconds until dryad despawns. Then it press CA surge surge when dryad despawns / trees has 2 seconds left

[leaden birch]

now I can go farm priory

[round field]

Wrong

Hold for 4 seconds

Then trees

[digital berry]