questionable to say the least
#balance
round field
humble talon
questionable to say the least
my talents dont show up on armoury either
livid jay
This is your opener how you did it. You did that after the fight started. You should be casting your first wrath when the pulltimer is on 4 seconds so the wrath wrath starfire all happens pre combat. Then for the opener, you are wasting a lot of time doing nothing. Your trees window is the MOST important damage buff you have at the moment. You can not be waiting 3 seconds doing nothing after you press trees. You need to instantly start casting as much as you can inside your CD's.
Also, after casting wrath, wrath, starfire, dots and trees you will have astral power to spend. You pressed CA and straight into convoke. That means you wasted valuable astral power cause convoke is going to fill it up anyways. You want to starsurge a couple times until you are low in astral power. This is also in the dreamgrove priority list
round field
this is a "i clicked random buttons" sim talent page
humble talon
im not talking armory
I shall commit sudoku
round field
livid jay
your first cooldown window of the fight. You spend so much time doing nothing. Your NUMBER 1 priority on boomkin (or any caster) should be to ALWAYS BE CASTING
upbeat nimbus
I had a a period that on every encounter the game froze due to my ancient graphic card now replaced
livid jay
Then do a raid, even if its LFR, do the best you can, log it, upload the log and send it here so we can look 🙂
and revisit the dreamgrove compendium prio list
but yea, different fight, 3 damaging spells in the first 10 seconds
livid jay
np
gilded arch
Was the buff good enough to maybe make myself worthy enough to get noticed by my loot council?
Or should I craft a two handed weapon
livid jay
Sure, I will defintely do that,
This is a website that can also help you analyze your logs and find problems in your playstyle, its very helpful
lucid olive
It is lit up
I made it light up Denizen because Denizen is technically a better point than Rattle, but you can swap them around. I had to take Rattle in the talent string cause if there's no point spent in that choice node it defaults to showing Starweaver icon and it's very annoying
eternal lily
Can anyone Tell me which delve is the fastest today
steel light
As they minimal nerfed 2piece Elune - will we stay kotg with (2p) or EC?
with 4piece it will be definitivley kotg but not sure about 2piece set
lucid olive
?
gilded arch
Im clutching to it and Im not rocking green
vale pebble
i was waiting for it
lucid olive
Like Recruitie said, Potent makes a 2nd charge of CA come up during your 4th CA at 4 minutes. Potent is already a sidegrade, so I assume the Wrath/Starfire talent will just be better if you make it hold the cooldown window for buff.ca_inc.duration<cooldown.ca_inc.full_recharge_time or something
real flax
one question, always should stack 2 or 3 starlords before CA? or doesn't matter
real flax
and for EC build?
livid jay
you gonna spend a lot in cooldowns so it should stack up naturally
humble talon
Sorry to sideline with maybe a stupid question:
Lets consider a scenario, I don't any stacks of Starlord.
Is it better to fire off Starsurges as I have the AP or pool it to try fire off 3 after each other ?
random mason
Is the new dung already open ?
livid jay
Sorry to sideline with maybe a stupid question:
Lets consider a scenario, I don'...
minimize your time on low starlord stacks, that should answer it
random mason
ty
lucid olive
Sorry to sideline with maybe a stupid question:
Lets consider a scenario, I don'...
Fire as you have the AP
humble talon
🫡
pallid bay
this is a sensical approach, however saying something is probably wrong, without being able to explain why that would be the case, is rather silly
lucid olive
Keeper 4pc lowers the value of haste by a lot
iron chasm
Keeper 4pc lowers the value of haste by a lot
And ups crit/vers? I’m happy with crit but vers is soooo booooorrriiiinnnggg
delicate perch
@marble igloo @teal sphinx log in
real flax
whats a good craft in the first week, off hand maybe?
jade flume
Waiting for 2nd week and crafting staff
real flax
that's what i thought
vital hound
<@199658014356013056> <@174364071238303744> log in
what the helly
til r1 = green
delicate perch
guess who followed dreamgrove
it's okay he can clutch to the compendium even if it is wrongly written and green parse like last tier
gritty wraith
Lads, are we cooked or are we playable after buffs
Basically, am i playing the warlock instead
jaunty blaze
Boomie is die
livid jay
Lads, are we cooked or are we playable after buffs
looks better
looks about the same as start of last tier i would say (?)
steep folio
At what ilvl breakpoint does it make sense to go 2p+2p next season? And is it the same in both ST and m+?
steep folio
I have no idea
stuck meadow
might be triping
check the link in this channel
and see if they have something there rq about tier
i think it does
steep folio
I can only see the site comparing the new set to no set at all
jaunty blaze
3,71% increase to go 2p+2p on same ilvl iirc
steep folio
Nice! Is that both for ST and AoE?
jaunty blaze
Should be st
livid jay
later today ulria is gonne publish the big sheet that compares the sims of all specs tier piece gains
so u can see wether u get your tier before or after anyone else
steep folio
Amazing! Will it be published in this chat?
livid jay
im sure someone will send a link at some point but it should be flying around everywhere
steep folio
Sounds good. Thanks guys!
vital hound
isnt like 2p+2p insta upgrade?
yes
vital hound
stoic basalt
is anyone else having a problem with raid bots sim for balance? when I try to sim dungeon slice it said "your spec does not support this fight style" but I can sim patchwerk fine. never seen this before and dont know how to fix it.
jaunty blaze
There is nothing to fix
delicate perch
lol
jaunty blaze
You shouldn't sim dslice for boomie
delicate perch
dslice stinky
stoic basalt
oh what I ahould I sim then for dungeons?
jaunty blaze
You can do mdt sim or just 1t5m with your aoe build
lucid olive
is anyone else having a problem with raid bots sim for balance? when I try to si...
There used to be a big alert when you simmed dungeon slice saying it's not supported for Balance and doesn't work properly, but nobody bothered reading it so the fight style got disabled instead
And as someone else said, just use MDT Sim or 1t 5m
stoic basalt
oh lmao
lucid olive
Most of m+ is single target damage anyway
fossil hemlock
https://wago.io/Yya4XBbl- Get this WA and follow the instructions on the WAGO page
delicate perch
Most of m+ is single target damage anyway
mah overall 
stoic basalt
https://wago.io/Yya4XBbl- Get this WA and follow the instructions on the WAGO pa...
thanks!
dense gust
cant believe theyre leaving moonkin 15% behind ele
vital hound
why cant you believe that
delicate perch
I can't believe it's that close
royal zenith
let the ele's have their moment
coarse charm
Hello is keeper better after nerfs in m+ 10-12 keys for balance?
delicate perch
either is probably fine there, try both and see
ec would be better with worse players though
vital hound
ec good in that range first few weeks
delicate perch
ya defs
vital hound
whats the fridge looking like cavey
delicate perch
going on a 6am shop
gilded arch
If hungry = start key and forget about it
lucid olive
does anyone have that "what delve is fastest" weakaura
royal zenith
lolno
royal zenith
does anyone have that "what delve is fastest" weakaura
but this is one I guess https://wago.io/DAGg3PbVo
gilded arch
Didn't know there was a weakaura, imma save that
lucid olive
but this is one I guess https://wago.io/DAGg3PbVo
yur
thanks
fixed both of your feedbacks
craggy sonnet
@ocean condor @thorn nebula so .. while i have not extensively tested an opener optimized around not clipping the first CA (would wanna more aggressively spend AP during the dryad window), we do indeed clip that CA and the reason being
a) araz forge value
b) boat value for when you convoke, spend favor, have FoN buff
so not claiming this is necessarily the best but it is what the apl is currently doing
maybe its been cleared up already .. not waiting to scroll down and read all of that
livid jay
upbeat nimbus
Hey,
Looking at a auditory prompt for pandemic refresh so i dont forget.
But struggling to add a sound when its at the pandemic level?
livid jay
are you working with a weakaura pack that has a weakaura that visually shows when the dot goes into pandemic?
cause then it should be pretty easy to add the audio
lofty depot
no chance we getting forge
Get normal forge, is ok
livid jay
dont be mad bro .. you were asking for confirmation
we already know that the apl is doing what compendium says but was waiting for gamz to say if they have already checked if that is the actual bis thing to do or if clecia has a point
(im raiding first time on sunday this week so dont really care until then xD)
upbeat nimbus
cause then it should be pretty easy to add the audio
Using this one.
livid jay
the weakaura of the dot should have something in the condition tab
there you can probably, on top of enabling the glow, make another action that plays a sound
lucid olive
Using this one.
https://wago.io/LuckyoneUI-Druid
There should be triggers in there to idenfity pandemic if it glows for it already
can just add a condition to add a sound on the same trigger
nvm I lied there's no trigger for it
tawny cloud
What is pandemic? 😅
lofty depot
It's the last 30% of the dot
lucid olive
What is pandemic? 😅
If the remaining duration on your dots are less than 30% of the base duration of the dot and you refresh it you get the remaining duration added onto the new one
So Sunfire has 18 second duration, if you Sunfire with 3 seconds left your next Sunfire will be 18+3 seconds long
it's usually when your weakaura or button starts to glow
lucid olive
Using this one.
https://wago.io/LuckyoneUI-Druid
sent you a DM
tawny cloud
So Sunfire has 18 second duration, if you Sunfire with 3 seconds left your next ...
Thanks alot. I sure need to learn alot
pallid bay
we already know that the apl is doing what compendium says but was waiting for g...
no idea what clecias point is, can you show me where he explained it?
there's like 3 scenarios right
livid jay
@pallid bay discussion started here and next message i will reply to a sim he sent
ah wtf he deleted the message with the sim
royal zenith
royal zenith
he deleted half the convo
livid jay
browser history gg
royal zenith
there's a few questions maybe mixing up
which is opener versus when to pop coolies on a longer fight
livid jay
nah what we were on about was the opener, that when to pop coolies was before that
lofty depot
he deleted half the convo
leaden birch
interesting, so we overlap CA now
twin lotus
threads are so nice for following convos
lofty depot
Big surges in big boat window
twin lotus
too bad they are a bit of a PITA
royal zenith
pita with like shawarma ?
twin lotus
vale pebble
pita with like shawarma ?
no man...
royal zenith
wait people actually use it for pain in the ass
vale pebble
he means pain in the ass (u)
royal zenith
chatgpt generation
pallid bay
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pRwYoUx1TSJaT1z67H5hec
huh
is this supposed to be use treants at 4s?
this is not that
leaden birch
pita bread?
frigid niche
Will we play ec or kotg in thé raid ? St or council fight
livid jay
is this supposed to be use treants at 4s?
i dont know thats what he posted, didnt bother reading the apl he used
lofty depot
Will we play ec or kotg in thé raid ? St or council fight
Keeper
I doubt u play EC for hunters
Maybe, shrug.
lofty depot
i dont know thats what he posted, didnt bother reading the apl he used
He deleted the wait line
lethal shard
Hello someone might already answered see so i'm sorry to ask again but whats the difference in the opener between :
precast > dots > CA > starsurge > starsurge > trees > convoke (new opener)
and
precast > dots > trees > CA > starsurge > starsurge > convoke
since dreambursts are consumed in dryad window what's the matter ?
solemn idol
Feel like the movement wouldn't be great with starfire at all on hunters
lofty depot
Hello someone might already answered see so i'm sorry to ask again but whats the...
If u put trees later, u get it for the 2 buffed aurges
Which is 24% dam increase to them
heady sentinel
legooooooo
lethal shard
If u put trees later, u get it for the 2 buffed aurges
ah right the one at the end of the dryad window ?
lofty depot
The dreambursts don't matter for dryad window. The cap is small and we hit it very easy
lofty depot
ah right the one at the end of the dryad window ?
Well, "after" the dryad window
lethal shard
yes i get it thanks it makes sense
lofty depot
legooooooo
How many pulls
jaunty blaze
legooooooo
Princesidio
heady sentinel
Princesidio
In spanish xD
heady sentinel
How many pulls
tbh idk dont have the Aura, 100-150 i think
pallid bay
He deleted the wait line
yeah this wait needs to be changed
lofty depot
tbh idk dont have the Aura, 100-150 i think
What the fricc
heady sentinel
xDD
lofty depot
yeah this wait needs to be changed
Yea but he deleted it and thought he moved the trees timer
lofty depot
Post the real one 
pallid bay
the wait should be there though to safeguard against not having time for 2 surges
craggy sonnet
yeah this wait needs to be changed
does it?
pallid bay
yeah the logic is incorrect
craggy sonnet
gotta be buff.dryad.up&buff.dryad.remains+2<2*gcd.max?
i actually didnt initially realize this was a thing and implemented something similar to this but by calling the kotg_st action list again after passing the favor surge line
didnt do anything cause of the existing line
i never tried it without tho (cause it made sense at first glance)
royal zenith
dw I will ask forgy to fix it
strong bronze
Are we leaning more towards mastery/haste or are we mastery crit enjoyers now?
lofty depot
We aren't mastery haste enjoyers
That's a crazy autocorrect
But once u get new 4p u'll see sim change from haste to Crit/vers
Sim all ur gear upgrades
Adept is awake, loading bangers surely
royal zenith
but what if we still play EC in M+ tho????
do I need 2 sets of gear, one mastery/crit or vers and one mastery/haste
pls tell
tiny urchin
Gonna be holding 2 sets of gear kek
fervent hedge
Whats the timeline we get rid of cyrces? :sadge:
lofty depot
5 days ago exactly
7*
clever vigil
Adept is awake, loading bangers surely
gm
clever vigil
im locked
normal hedge
Until we get teir we still use last season opener?
clever vigil
yes
digital berry
Until we get teir we still use last season opener?
Specifically until 4p
zenith goblet
I love adept 
barren cove
formal crest
wish i got paid everytime i seen this overused image
royal zenith
hahahhahaha
formal crest
oh is it a cat
royal zenith
ye
formal crest
no wonder its a nuisance
delicate perch
no wonder its a nuisance
crude cobalt
normal pilot
hm even more trinket tuning time to redo guides again
royal zenith
new hotfixes being dropped?
formal crest
As we approach the end of the second season of the expansion, what are your thoughts on the number of M+ runs being less than Dragonflight season 1, season 2, and season 3?
livid jay
not surprised
game is becoming pretty repetetive
now that they reuse old dungeons constantly (which i liked at the start) every season feels the same as the one before
craggy sonnet
damn, they do be pushing stuff way too close for comfort this time
tawny cloud
Only been playing during tww since lich King. So everything is new to me 😅
cosmic cove
if i barely played s2 and i have s2 low ilevel tier (highest tier pieces are 2x655), should i just replace them with normal 681 pieces now? maybe even crafted 675? feels like i'm loosing a lot of INT and STA. or should i hold on to low ilevel tier pieces until s3 tier? any advice?
outer wolf
are the servers up?
formal crest
lol
livid jay
if i barely played s2 and i have s2 low ilevel tier (highest tier pieces are 2x6...
probably replace
crystal mortar
if i barely played s2 and i have s2 low ilevel tier (highest tier pieces are 2x6...
The only real answer to the question is to sim it. It's likely that you want to hold on to at least 2-pc. The 4-pc wasn't as grand
livid jay
if i barely played s2 and i have s2 low ilevel tier (highest tier pieces are 2x6...
i know someone who knows for sure tho
their name is raidbots.com
lofty depot
if i barely played s2 and i have s2 low ilevel tier (highest tier pieces are 2x6...
We already replace 684 (which was max last tier) with 684 tier. So if it's the same ilvl or higher ur always replacing.
And as stated, sim it
sonic surge
oh boomies wiser than me what we farm now https://www.wowhead.com/news/super-last-minute-trinket-tuning-378100
digital berry
oh boomies wiser than me what we farm now https://www.wowhead.com/news/super-las...
This just dropped, I don’t think anyone had time to run sims and shit
obsidian tapir
teal sphinx
<@199658014356013056> <@174364071238303744> log in
That's fucking wild
digital berry
It’s ok to not have all the info the moment servers are up
lofty depot
oh boomies wiser than me what we farm now https://www.wowhead.com/news/super-las...
Parapod was good before, means empowered crystal should be top of ur list
Those are some very uh, underwhelming trinket changes
lucid olive
Amethyst buff fun
empty girder
Amethyst buff fun
Was not even on the list.. probably we can consider it now?
lucid olive
Assumed they would nerf Parapodia, they'll probably buff the Voidcore trinket eventually if it ends up being worse than m+ alternatives
sonic juniper
Got this badboy and the neck just before reset, super lucky
lucid olive
Was not even on the list.. probably we can consider it now?
No clue, I'll rerun some trinket sims later when I get home and reshuffle a bit I guess
sonic surge
Parapod was good before, means empowered crystal should be top of ur list
so like signet and empowered crystal?
empty girder
No clue, I'll rerun some trinket sims later when I get home and reshuffle a bit ...
Thanks sir
strong bronze
Lily of the eternal weave is also pretty good for an on use
sonic surge
No clue, I'll rerun some trinket sims later when I get home and reshuffle a bit ...
are u gonna stream it? also u gonna edit dg or post a sticky
hazy storm
Sup guys have a good day
leaden birch
Got this badboy and the neck just before reset, super lucky
i paid someone 5k for that ring
lofty depot
so like signet and empowered crystal?
Or Lily + empowered yes
lucid olive
are u gonna stream it? also u gonna edit dg or post a sticky
Streaming sims sounds cringe.. and no I'll just update DG
When is NA reset
How many hours from now
sonic juniper
i paid someone 5k for that ring
oof
lucid olive
Thanks
teal sphinx
How many hours from now
4
strong bronze
They said 11 am pst which is 4 hours from now
leaden birch
They said 11 am pst which is 4 hours from now
ackshually it's PDT 🤓
strong bronze
My bad fam
snow pine
scheduled maint end in 3h20
leaden birch
if there was player power hidden behind kyveza I would definitely care more to kill her right meow
lofty depot
Mythic vault too
leaden birch
digital berry
Mythic vault too
I’ll believe it when i see it
warm dagger
its a bug and not true
digital berry
Hover over the ?? And show ilvl
lofty depot
I'm at work, can't
digital berry
In 3 hours
leaden birch
do we wait for people to check their vaults and see if it's bugged
or do we open in hopes that it's bugged but in a good way
final patio
last minute trinket tuning 💀
digital berry
I just want our bis on use to be 1.5 and not 2 cd
glacial acorn
So we're back to EC M+ and KOTG raid?
lofty depot
I just want our bis on use to be 1.5 and not 2 cd
Doesn't matter
Example, at 4m ur double CA and holding ur 1.5m trinket til 410 regardless
leaden birch
is sending double CA going to feel good
lofty depot
U like big numby?
empty girder
Example, at 4m ur double CA and holding ur 1.5m trinket til 410 regardless
Do you hold CA for second convoke? + trinket
lofty depot
U could send it at 150 or w.e. if u have 1.5m trinkey
digital berry
Wouldn’t it be cool if ca charges both ticked their cooldown at the same time?
rich jewel
But then u always need to use right after eachother
lofty depot
Well like a 9m fight is 21212
Say like Araz for testing amp was at 6m... U would do 2112
Gonna be some funny timings people get to find out and learn
jaunty blaze
If only i had learned so much for school
dense stratus
just to confirm: raid kotg playstyle (prio/talents) same as s2 until we get s3 tier sets yea?
sly crescent
anyone have the updated overall sims?
lofty depot
just to confirm: raid kotg playstyle (prio/talents) same as s2 until we get s3 t...
It's largely the same with each tier
lofty depot
anyone have the updated overall sims?
For what
formal marsh
You are all smoking crack boomy is really strong
jaunty blaze
Who said its weak
lofty depot
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pRwYoUx1TSJaT1z67H5hec
This is fine 🙂
Gets u close
livid jay
xD
sly crescent
Just looking for the overall tier list after the buffs
jaunty blaze
Tierlists stinky
sly crescent
to see how KOTG stacked up after the buffs to it
normal pilot
lock still better
jaunty blaze
Middle of the pack
sly crescent
lock still better
Duh
upper anvil
Tier list bad. Press buttons for dps good
lofty depot
It's like 5.6 and lock beats it by 10%
But raid isn't solely st, so probably beats it by more
sly crescent
Great! All I was looking for was updated sims, locks got a big nerf to their tier the other day as well
digital berry
We won’t know the exact real life standing until raid is being cleared, sims lists are not a good metric
normal pilot
those sheets are just wrong right now anyways. you can know lock is better, but you will never know just how much better
you don't evne know if lock is simming correctly
for that matter blaance isp orlly not simming correctly neither
sly crescent
🤙
normal pilot
if something is 15% higher then you can be sure it's better but you'll never be able to compare something that's less than 5% apart in those sheets
despite the bad info they spit out
wheat badger
Sorry guys i dont undestand why sims use the items from the 1 image and guides suggest others items. Could anyone explain to me why there is a difference?
digital berry
Sorry guys i dont undestand why sims use the items from the 1 image and guides s...
Bis lists are not a thing
normal pilot
they're just made with vibes
wheat badger
which one i will do more damage?? following sims?
normal pilot
follow your own sim
digital berry
SIM your own character
wheat badger
i thought it was kind of strange with a crit and vers ring and crit and mastery ring :S
normal pilot
nothing strange if it's kotg
digital berry
We value crit and vers a bit more this season
normal pilot
haste is bad for that tree
wheat badger
crit and mastery neck*
lofty depot
Sorry guys i dont undestand why sims use the items from the 1 image and guides s...
There's also items not on there that are good
digital berry
The way we gear in retail is we sim after every single upgrade
lofty depot
Crit/vers good
digital berry
OFC if there’s a 10 ilvl difference you can be sure it’s better
But similar or same ilvl
wheat badger
ty guys, i will follow the sims so 😄
digital berry
You just sim each piece and do what the sim tells you
normal pilot
it doesn't matter that much in the end, outside of purposefully overpowered things they make like trinkets some random item have one stat over another doesn't affect your dps that much
wheat badger
my guild asked to write our goal items in raid so i will put the best items of the sims
digital berry
That’s a weird request
normal pilot
it's pretty common
lofty depot
my guild asked to write our goal items in raid so i will put the best items of t...
(just so u know like everyone will put Araz and antenna)
wheat badger
we had a problem ppl choosing bis in every item so they asked to do a list :S
digital berry
We just use that website where you submit sims and shows % of upgrades
Whatever it’s called
lofty depot
This is why u got off sim inc 🙂 and say fuckem
normal pilot
ppl that choose b is on every item will just make up w/e they want on a list anyways
half sierra
- forge 2. do a better job keeping in touch with my family
digital berry
1. forge 2. do a better job keeping in touch with my family
Hmm?
normal pilot
your guild is wasting your time so don't fall for it, put weapons + forge on your list
half sierra
my goals
lofty depot
Whatever it’s called
There's 2, wowaudit or readycheck
digital berry
Wow audit is the one we use yeah
rapid sable
the mastery trinket from the new dungeon is pretty good ya?
lofty depot
Is ok
Araz is "pretty good"
I'm tempted to not farm Lily or signet
First mythic Araz surely
ionic oak
Im not home to sim for my wish list
Big rip yall
lofty depot
Why not do it last night
ionic oak
But its ok. Im a boomkin so they aint giving me shit anyways
lofty depot
also funny wishlist before getting tier, kek
ionic oak
I wish our apl writers were like hunters
lofty depot
Told rl the number is far bigger when I get new tier
stuck meadow
we only upload after doing dungeons and before raid
rapid sable
do we get a tier convert token today or next week?
sonic juniper
I gotta choose if I main Ele or Boomy 
lofty depot
Ele slams
rapid sable
I havnt had much time to look at anything has the Elune mythic plus build changed much from last season to now?
lofty depot
No
normal pilot
why ele or balance is your raid missing buffs?
lofty depot
The guide is updated
sonic juniper
why ele or balance is your raid missing buffs?
We have druid buff, potentially recruited an RSham
Those are the 2 I've got geared now pretty much
normal pilot
oh unlucky might be stuck on skyfury duty then if new guy doesn't work out
sonic juniper
Yeah exactly. We're just an AOTC guild anyway but suboptimal also isn't fun
normal pilot
ya there's no point purposefully handicapping yourselves
sonic juniper
I gotta watch an Ele rotation vid haven't played them since SLands lol
lofty depot
Is good
craggy sonnet
2p2p
lofty depot
Should wear
dry compass
Arctic wen servers
lofty depot
This isn't reato
craggy sonnet
wrong channel?
formal crest
bald
lofty depot
🚪 🐀
lofty depot
Arctic wen servers
Depends
craggy sonnet
it gets confusing with me typing so much in here
lofty depot
Could be 2 hours maybe
rapid sable
right into the monwell
craggy sonnet
fair point
lofty depot
Clanker type everywhere
rapid sable
o cant use that term anymore there was a news article about how its a slur that could hurt ai robots feelings
formal crest
who cares about clankers
rapid sable
formal marsh
Jreg
lofty depot
o cant use that term anymore there was a news article about how its a slur that ...
Clankz is AI?
@ thyme ban him
formal crest
close enough
dry compass
o cant use that term anymore there was a news article about how its a slur that ...
Can it clanker
rapid sable
pallid bay
who cares about clankers
shut up baldie
formal crest
shut up baldie
i will not stoop to your level, ex green name
sonic surge
bro dont make fun of the baldies or the entire feral channel is gonna come in here and start doing kitty roleplay @pallid bay
formal crest
I am not a cat man
outer wolf
are the servers up?
ornate grail
no
tranquil plank
leaden birch
are the servers up?
charred mango
are the suppers erv?
formal crest
yes
jade jacinth
do delves drop tier from the vault section? 😮
lofty depot
U'll find out in a few hours
jade jacinth
im eu D:
lofty depot
That doesn't change na's reset
river galleon
do delves drop tier from the vault section? 😮
That’s why we all went for 8x 8 delve, for more luck with tier piece.
leaden birch
for you hof players, how many characters do y'all end up prepping for the tier?
strong bronze
You could do 1 , its just about how many hours you raid if you want hof
boreal brook
Depends how many splits your guild does if any
leaden birch
ye I'm just seeing now that players from echo and liq setup a disgusting amount
I knew they played a lot of chars, but I didn't think it would be that many
royal zenith
that's worldfirst
strong bronze
There are a few share of guilds who only do it on main toons but raid a ton of hours
royal zenith
hof is just rank 200
leaden birch
yeah
royal zenith
you dont even really need splits
leaden birch
I didn't ask rwf because well
royal zenith
just raid more, be better
leaden birch
would anyone even reply in here if I asked rwf lmao
pale hollow
for you hof players, how many characters do y'all end up prepping for the tier?
We have 2 chars each as dps. tanks n healers have a few more
boreal brook
I see a lot of HoF players prep 2, and do splits for the first week, maybe 2 weeks, then stick to just 1 character
royal zenith
that's common ye
strong bronze
Usually most hof guilds raid about 4 days for about 4 hours a night or something , and most 3 day guilds just OT
royal zenith
4 DAYS?!
leaden birch
2 chars doesn't seem too bad
royal zenith
leaden birch
rwf on another level god damn
pale hollow
Usually most hof guilds raid about 4 days for about 4 hours a night or something...
yeah i dont think thats accurate
formal crest
for you hof players, how many characters do y'all end up prepping for the tier?
you dont even need more than one tbh
but i gear more than one for sales
strong bronze
yeah i dont think thats accurate
How come?
royal zenith
prove that it's the truth @strong bronze
pale hollow
i think most are 3 days (top 50 4+)
royal zenith
instead of flipping it
they are, yea
and 4 hours an evening is also just a lot
3hr is more common
pale hollow
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xtYEZZ7N0-8DjUrSZcbVZx4LIOGOBLSm19Js9I8BPQ8/edit?gid=0#gid=0
pale hollow
there are definitely a minority over 12 hours per week
strong bronze
Yeah the recruitment discord check top 50 to 100
pale hollow
who tf uses recruitment discord
royal zenith
open the file..
formal crest
i raid 2 days and got hof
|| we will not be talking aboout OT or the fact that it was a mickey mouse tier ty ||
royal zenith
people are too hung up on OT anyway
formal crest
i was going to say something but then rememebred where we are deux
royal zenith
mighty mica
@ thyme ban him
got it
mighty mica
o cant use that term anymore there was a news article about how its a slur that ...
that's the point
charred mango
we didn't get hof 😔
ember badge
hii guy were can i finde the best bis list for gear i need in the new tier so i can se what i need and not ?
leaden birch
arctic got you for the bis list
lofty depot
Huh
formal crest
the bis list is sim yo self fool
lofty depot
hii guy were can i finde the best bis list for gear i need in the new tier so ...
Bis lists are fake, there's a set of gear both on the sim in the guide but it's not a bis list and gear is ever changing
pliant swallow
are the talents updated anywhere ?
ember badge
Bis lists are fake, there's a set of gear both on the sim in the guide but it's ...
i know that i more last night prio stat was mast haste now i look and i say mast vers so why did it changse ?
lofty depot
Well the tierset
sand rain
hii guy were can i finde the best bis list for gear i need in the new tier so ...
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/druid/balance/bis-gear
This has a BiS list, but like the others said, its best to sim the gear pieces you have yourself for a more accurate result
ember badge
y get that but i need to give my guil a biss list and ther i a change if i take maxroll https://maxroll.gg/wow/class-guides/balance-druid-raid-guide i so deff then then one you like
they stack mast vers over mast haste
jaunty blaze
scarlet tapir
lofty depot
they stack mast vers over mast haste
thats because we do that
digital berry
This whole give the guild a bis list thing is mad weird ngl
lofty depot
max rolls looks within reason
royal zenith
This whole give the guild a bis list thing is mad weird ngl
it's not
ember badge
max rolls looks within reason
okay so later with 4 set mast vers is better? ofc i know i have 2 simc all itme so get the best idear
royal zenith
it's just not always on-point
sand rain
This whole give the guild a bis list thing is mad weird ngl
Its pretty normal tbh. Makes handing out loot easier
digital berry
That’s what wowaudit is for no
royal zenith
it's one of the tools you can use yea
digital berry
Surely it’s better then having everyone come up with random bis lists
royal zenith
define better
if half your team doesn't update wowaudit or adds his latest sims
it's just as useless
royal zenith
that's what you are doing yeah
you just ask for bis lists to see what trinkets/items are common amongst classes
you use wowaudit in realtime to see who gets the biggest upgrade
it's not that deep
digital berry
Never been in a guild that actively asks for bis lists at the start of a season, just found it odd
Especially since bis lists in themselves are not a metric that people should use to gear their characters to begin with
sand rain
swift crater
I mean feels to me in recent memory raids are just for trinkets and weapons as the big upgrades. You can get so much from M+.
Stands to reason imo if your a loot council or masterlooter to get a sense of who wants what trinket and weapons etc
royal zenith
yeah it's just to get a bit of a feeling
and we were talking from a guild pov
from a player pov, you should use bis lists to gear your character
should not *
charred mango
the best loot system is the one where the person who rolls a higher number gets the loot
royal zenith
bring back personal loot
charred mango
true true
delete all boss drops and have the vault give you a random amount of pieces depending on how lucky it thinks you are
jaunty blaze
damn
jaunty blaze
i think the servers are up
leaden birch
is the vault bugged
gentle scroll
Loading boss
upper anvil
ive been stuck in 100% loading for a solid 3 mins
gentle scroll
yep
jaunty blaze
thank you for beta testing NA people
leaden birch
LOCK THE FUCK IN
I AM LOCKED
outer wolf
same!
leaden birch
hard wyvern
rwf prio queue confirm
late gorge
anyone streaming keys?
normal pilot
hm they did fix pet damage bug
gentle scroll
LOCKED OUT
normal pilot
starfall isn't pet damage, it's your damage
digital berry
anyone streaming keys?
goop and dwilkz will probably
royal zenith
Sadge
normal pilot
the surge + cats got buffed tho
royal zenith
Holy
digital berry
oh wait probably not they are ing splits
lofty depot
unluggy
digital berry
not me
charred mango
i'm in (pain)
maiden pasture
didn't actually get 8%, only 7.6
is this WITH the pet thing that u mentioned?
junior thicket
helo me enjoy boomkin me lik dot
so 2p is basically insta replace over the old 4p?
digital berry
yeah
junior thicket
gotcha thx
maiden pasture
so 2p is basically insta replace over the old 4p?
junior thicket
im not really good with sims so yea haha
digital berry
well get good with sims
since it's the best way to figure out what is an upgrade and what isnt
junior thicket
me copy talent and go brr
digital berry
more like b
junior thicket
yea i mean i kinda just sim new gear
lofty depot
@normal pilot I assume build is live on raidbots?
lofty depot
With server start, shrug
digital berry
server start but nobody can log in
lucid prism
anyone think balance will be buffed this tier? or is that cope
digital berry
anyone think balance will be buffed this tier? or is that cope
it's been buffed, it's middle of the pack at the moment. Whether blizzard thinks we need more damage or not is up in the air
digital berry
the 8th
look at pins
Hmm why are firedup and thd in game and i cannot log in? Streamer queue smh
royal zenith
yeah you only get it for consistent streaming
gentle scroll
Can't show tho
leaden birch
LOCKED INNNNNNN
formal crest
yeah i been locked in for 15 mins
rich jewel
Hmm why are firedup and thd in game and i cannot log in? Streamer queue smh
actually works with 0 viewers also
digital berry
works so well dwilkz is playing fortnite
outer wolf
i named changed my toon and put liquid in it and was able to login
digital berry
i aint touching vault
didnt they say last season they could not fix them
\for those who opened already
upper anvil
cant touch vault if cant even load in
lofty depot
Apparently vault is giving old rewards
digital berry
well the only way to find out whether its true or not is to open your own vault
and i aint risking it
red nymph
floral tundra
tilt your monitor to portrait, gravity will push the bar down so its complete
subtle sail
LET ME PLAY THE GAME MAN
dry compass
LET ME PLAY THE GAME MAN
but yall look so cute in your channel shooting the shit on loadscreen
sharp yacht
heya, pretty new to the dreamgrove 😄 Are we actually choose mastery>vers over mastery>haste in 11.2?
subtle sail
dry compass
you and adept side by side
digital berry
heya, pretty new to the dreamgrove 😄 Are we actually choose mastery>vers over ...
we're chosing what sims tell us is better
livid jay
gg myth vault
lofty depot
Server no longer dead
turbid nacelle
you can loot tier sets from delve vault
pallid bay
gg myth vault
gg
lofty depot
It was harder before
digital berry
how many weekly quests are there? I got one from the reshii wrap guy and one for timewalking
steep folio
It was harder before
Before what
lofty depot
Bran bugged
digital berry
goddamn champ track
steep folio
When he would stand still and get murdered when played as dps? Or another one
lofty depot
When he would stand still and get murdered when played as dps? Or another one
Eeler not healing
lofty depot
goddamn champ track
U didn't do 8s?
steep folio
Eeler not healing
Oh. Didn't know they fixed anything. Then again. Never visiting that place again to find out what has changed
livid jay
hopeful banned for 6 months??????
digital berry
U didn't do 8s?
hmm? Its in the m0 slot
lofty depot
hmm? Its in the m0 slot
Oh, smh
lofty depot
if it was in delve slots it woulda been higher
Well if he did a 7 it could be lower
Actually made it need gear
And they nerfed its hp
turbid nacelle
goddamn champ track
champ gear = hero gear
since ur not wasting gilded to upgrade hero 5/6
acoustic kelp
keeping s2 4pc or are we doing 2 and 2 for M+?
lyric tulip
so is it confirmed u get a season 3 vault?
lucid olive
no they removed all vaults forever
acoustic kelp
so is it confirmed u get a season 3 vault?
Some are some arent about half of my guilds vault was s2
lofty depot
Some are some arent about half of my guilds vault was s2
Did the ones that got s2 loot it recently or during the server being shit
digital berry
keeping s2 4pc or are we doing 2 and 2 for M+?
2+2 most likely
golden coyote
anyone have issue looting the vault? Picked my upgrade and it and the keystone aren't in my inventory.
lofty depot
anyone have issue looting the vault? Picked my upgrade and it and the keystone a...
Don't think ur suppose to get keystone from vault
lofty depot
Oh, hm
gaunt finch
You only get a key from vault if you did M0 last week I think, right?
lofty depot
Disgusting, not gonna loot it
Log on when my guild has already done 6s, get free 8
Big strat
gaunt finch
Lol
dense steeple
cant decide if i want hero bad tier
quiet drift
u can just keep vault
dense steeple
im a trial
im not getting tier first in any world
oh no, shoulders are good piece
lets go
dense steeple
😠
turbid nacelle
shoulder is ur offpiece right?
dense steeple
or i can take chest and get started?
turbid nacelle
hero tier is champ tier ?
or ur maxing it out for fun and losing gilded crest for 0
digital berry
Yeah you’re not wasting gilded on upgrading hero track so champ tier and hero tier are functionally the same
dense steeple
so prolly chestthen
dusk warren
what do you guys think about this trinket ?
is good?
lofty depot
Would have to sim it
Would say taking tier is higher prio, but I don't know ur guilds uhh prio
golden coyote
not in the top 10 of trinkets according to IV
lofty depot
"hey sim it", looks at iv.
golden coyote
I mean I agree sim it. But without knowing anything about his character/gear, IV doesn't list it in it's top 10. Just giving him a ball park idea.
stuck quartz
is there a defined rule on when to swap tier? 4pc->4pc?
jaunty blaze
2p is already an upgrade
lofty depot
is there a defined rule on when to swap tier? 4pc->4pc?
When u get it
leaden birch
anyone know how to enter story mode raid?
my quest is pointing me to some dude who doesn't have any options to start it on story mode
lofty depot
MASSIVE
meager storm
double boomy is so back
lofty depot
That's a gamer group
iron chasm
Holy moly double boomy with special guest towellie
lofty depot
Not leather stacking, but that's a group forsure
meager storm
pretty
lofty depot
Clearly hate towelliees gear
icy geyser
so are we running KOTG in raid still?
quiet drift
y
icy geyser
ty
zealous zenith
IS THAT EC IN M+ NUMBERS!?
lofty depot
Soma.... The guide
dense steeple
i cant trust that
lofty depot
Omg we're meta
pale halo
Omg we're meta
ruby flicker
Can't use the delve lures yet eh? need rank 2?
lofty depot
absolute stinker vault
4 delves, smh
ebon plover
i got lazy man
ebon plover
4 delves, smh
what should i take
lofty depot
Probably sockey
royal zenith
free ilvl upgrades
ebon plover
i think i take edict
spice forum
timber grove
This weeks vault is tier or socket otherwise you can just farm the item in m+
lofty depot
^^
dense steeple
where move embellish 🙁
digital berry
is there even a point in running bountiful delves?
royal zenith
heroic items, ofc
pale halo
For bounty and hero item
pale halo
cause you need renown 2
This
lofty depot
o7 his key
royal zenith
read your renown and when you unlock bountiful
pale halo
Delvers joirney has to be lvl 2 before u get a chance to drop bounty
royal zenith
o7 his key
this
royal zenith
they changed it pretty sneakily
cause who really cares about delve renown
if you just like raiding
pale halo
I barelly forced myself to do 8x t8
Probably never stepping in again unless they will invent another item like disc belt
digital berry
im getting denied into TW groups am i cooked
vital hound
never played EC before howd i do
did you press starfire
lofty depot
Got beat by a hunter
royal zenith
would log out if you post details meters
lofty depot
So bad
dense steeple
at least twice
royal zenith
you dont deserve it
vital hound
at least twice
gz you can have title now
lofty depot
Can u tell ur arcane mage to do damage maybe
dense steeple
gz you can have title now
SICK
lofty depot
Hope that helps
dense steeple
Can u tell ur arcane mage to do damage maybe
hes just a little baby be nice
dense steeple
i was told not to take hero tier 🙁
vital hound
i was told not to take hero tier 🙁
royal zenith
well its better to take tier after raid/splits obv
viral cliff
two pieces of tier woah
snow elm
do we get another catalyst charge next week? or is this considered first week and we get one in two weeks
vital hound
well its better to take tier after raid/splits obv
im bottom of tier prio list
im taking it lol
royal zenith
rip
lofty depot
Heck n good blud
raw thistle
Heck n good blud
hows balance looking bossman have you watched any m+ yet?
im torn between drood and dh (dps)
lofty depot
No, just raid
raw thistle
ahh okay :D does it seem to be pumping?
raw thistle
yea i cant decide if dh is the play or going for boomie
raw thistle
they are? oO
somber path
I got tier chest in my vault
raw thistle
i thought buff made both super viable but im not way too knowledgeable^^
raw thistle
I got tier chest in my vault
nice gz :D
royal zenith
basically every spec is viable
lucid olive
finally
raw thistle
but they're both shit
what isnt shit iff you have time
vital hound
dk/warlock/ele
stuck meadow
Can't use the delve lures yet eh? need rank 2?
yea
raw thistle
dk/warlock/ele
warlock is so much standing still idk if its worth the damage 🤣
but thank you :D
delicate perch
Bro is not going to like boomkin then
raw thistle
you think? i feel quite mobile with the instant casts
on warlock i catch myself cancelling casts, hasnt happened on boomie yet but im new to it so not much experience
delicate perch
Sure, more mobile than warlock but you still need to cast a decent amount
raw thistle
okay ^^
round field
ill join you tomorrow morning
lofty depot
its ok, happened in amirdrassil as well, didnt have 4p til week 2
meager storm
obsidian girder
delicate perch
https://vxtwitter.com/LiquidGuild/status/1955347969089122785
Nahhhh
digital berry
tragic luck
pliant swallow
subtle sail
yo how much less is it to play EC in my moonkins split
barren cove
tender elbow
<:SUFFER:846684944339042324>
Does this mean our trinket BiS list will change?
pliant swallow
no
craggy sonnet
prolly not
craggy sonnet
they were disgustingly strong
formal crest
never played EC before howd i do
bald
formal crest
I did gambit as a key i dont think it consumed the buff
halcyon laurel
Didn’t have time to play much so I couldn’t fill out my vault, but I got tier on a shit open world slot.
Still good to send catalyst if not raiding?
lofty depot
"i got tier" isnt the same as, "i got an item that i can catalyst"
restive cosmos
Larias's guide says check class discord to determine best approach for sparks. question for you fine folks who understand the class better than I, what's the guidance?
halcyon laurel
Nah I got a tier piece in vault too
empty girder
Larias's guide says check class discord to determine best approach for sparks. q...
Most likely you should save it and get an staff next week, unless you get a mythic weapon
halcyon laurel
Wondering if fine to catalyst one of my M0 pieces like my chest for the 2pc
empty girder
Wondering if fine to catalyst one of my M0 pieces like my chest for the 2pc
Not yet, you should get your hero items first and then you should catalyst it
restive cosmos
understood. thanks folks
bronze pine
Are we still playing ec in keys?
desert imp
its EC still the play in M+?
lofty depot
Most likely you should save it and get an staff next week, unless you get a myth...
just so u know, OH can and should be considered
radiant wyvern
Why does the simc show us at less than 5M dps? I thought we could get 5.5M? are we sandbagging?
radiant wyvern
yup just making sure :)
lofty timber
when are we breaking tier set?
trail hinge
for 2 pc
normal pilot
nerf balance
lofty depot
yea nerf balance
royal zenith
more buffs
lucid olive
nerf balance
real
frigid yoke
its like the only boomy fight :p