ahhh okay makes sense š
#balance
raw thistle
royal zenith
it is for me
lofty depot
u didnt no
lofty depot
it happned a few hours ago but i didnt see a message pop up
royal zenith
maybe discord acting up
lofty depot
sheep ping u for fun
mighty mica
lofty depot
i figured it was a glitch
vital hound
what the helly
royal zenith
what the helly indeed
pliant swallow
vital hound
mighty mica
nothing in the audit log so your clients are messed up
royal zenith
guess its mobile versus desktop bug
raw thistle
isnt it also strong in m+ tho? now that i think about it, just looked into this season so i might be super mistaken
mighty mica
no desktop
royal zenith
lofty depot
isnt it also strong in m+ tho? now that i think about it, just looked into this ...
it was fine before and got a little increase after
royal zenith
the matrix is bugging out
raw thistle
it was fine before and got a little increase after
got it, thank youj!
agile nimbus
the shenanigans where you hold your trinkets half the fight and spam starfall on single target
royal zenith
vocal spruce
Damn so itās just simply impossible to get accepted into m0 sub 670 atp
round field
Just host ur own?
Gonna be filled in like a few minutes
Why would anyone invite a 670 over all the 684 people?
sudden flame
host your own then only invite 680 people
then you will realise why no one invites you
vocal spruce
Spent 45 minutes hosting
Same shit but they leave when they realize Iām not also 680
round field
Dont you have friends
kind sage
i really want EC will be better than kotg š
round field
You and no one else
vocal spruce
I have a job I donāt have time to make social interactions in wow
I simply pub, and next
formal sable
the infinite starsurges + starfalls in kotg are so much fun tho
dire osprey
i feel like i had no issues filling m0s
even on my dog ilvl chars
but i also did it day 1
prob loads of ppl done already
vocal spruce
Yeah mostly people looking for Carrieās. Or heavy geared to just sweep it down and next
topaz pine
Is the 8% aura buff on top of the previous 8% buff?
jaunty blaze
yes
topaz pine
Type shit
jaunty blaze
shit
half sierra
is there already trinket sims for balance?
liquid made a similar page. it's pretty limited though. liquidarmory.com
twin lotus
Can you spend your cofeer keys this week?
royal zenith
no
safe turtle
only ggot 2 and did all i could ...
delicate perch
twin lotus
i even run the script that says how many you have obtained and it says i have 4, but i have 0
really weird
delicate perch
Just log out your Druid isnāt being taken to content
pliant swallow
who needs a druid buff in raid anyway.
tired ermine
uncut bone
whats the new % increase from base dps for the tier set? (2pc/4pc)
harsh jungle
whats the new % increase from base dps for the tier set? (2pc/4pc)
check pins
uncut bone
check pins
that is not what im asking
harsh jungle
ok
cyan estuary
Is it possible to make my details meter light on fire when Iām number one
grand niche
Why they gotta do EC like that just to buff kotg
fervent merlin
Is it possible to make my details meter light on fire when Iām number one
Peak
indigo drift
Why they gotta do EC like that just to buff kotg
It was net positive so whats the issue?
grand niche
All positive is best positive
lofty depot
Why they gotta do EC like that just to buff kotg
Because ec being better than keeper on st is bad
delicate perch
who needs a druid buff in raid anyway.
Everyone, they just arenāt getting it from a balance Druid 
twin lotus
then look again
did that, still missing. wtf. They are only missing on my lock
anyone else had this bug?
stuck meadow
is EC going to keep decent for m+ or kotg all the way you guys think?
lofty depot
EC good in m+
stuck meadow
asking that because news came late for me i was about to go to bed
couldnt check the discussion
lofty depot
whats the new % increase from base dps for the tier set? (2pc/4pc)
Depends on ilvl, but u'll wear 684 2p over s2 4p
lofty depot
asking that because news came late for me i was about to go to bed
I mean, ur worried about m+ for no reason. 10+s u can play w.e u want
pliant swallow
Yeh.
uncut bone
Depends on ilvl, but u'll wear 684 2p over s2 4p
what i meant was absolute numbers, there is always this sheet which shows the tier sets from all classes and the % from 2pc and 4pc. thats the number im interested in
lofty depot
Sub to his twitch
royal zenith
%'s are literally the opposite of absolute numbers
lofty depot
Those numbers are also imperfect and don't include ilvl differences
royal zenith
didnt he make it public
lofty depot
Not yet
royal zenith
cringe
lofty depot
That's every 723
grand niche
Looks like
junior thicket
cool thx
lofty depot
sorry what?
That's every item at 723
lofty depot
If u use ptr=1 and put it in simc expert header yes
lofty depot
In the spreadhseet wjth every class that is
Likely no
royal zenith
ask the owner of the spreadsheet
craggy sonnet
That's every item at 723
you cant just type the same shit again
craggy sonnet
whats the new % increase from base dps for the tier set? (2pc/4pc)
this is why i sent that screenshot
like what are you talking about
lofty depot
Yea but that's a fake question with a fake answer
craggy sonnet
scenic mist
Yea but that's a fake question with a fake answer
isnt it insane you're changing pfp and name and yet i know it's you without looking
lofty depot
Type shit
lucid olive
That's every item at 723
No it's not lol
Mfer thinks we sim 3.6m at 723 we'd really do need a 50% aura buff
crisp rampart
Hey! In a scenario where you are running KotG and fighting a ST boss that spawns adds (that die relatively quickly) would you pre-swtich eclipse's to cleave with starfall or just stay in solar eclipse and press starfall?
craggy sonnet
arctic just saying random shit so he can follow it up with "resto kekkers smh"
lucid olive
This not super accurate, made some talent changes and different APLs for the keeper ones and keeper is ahead
lucid olive
arctic just saying random shit so he can follow it up with "resto kekkers smh"
I respect that honestly
craggy sonnet
craggy sonnet
This not super accurate, made some talent changes and different APLs for the kee...
yea, i prefaced that its not very reliable (because super early)
lofty depot
I thought he posted the actual
Cuz u sent me a 723 one an she posts one not that
Smh
craggy sonnet
are you sure you thought?
lofty depot
I attempted to thought
And then I started talking to a mechanic and got side tracked on linking the oicture
tame merlin
Is this the new ST sim? Seems a bit high?
craggy sonnet
you seem a bit high for calling that high
craggy sonnet
at least there is a 7 in there
tame merlin
you seem a bit high for calling that high
Hahah ye, but compered to before the tuning
lofty depot
Is this the new ST sim? Seems a bit high?
What's wrong with 5.6m
craggy sonnet
Hahah ye, but compered to before the tuning
i mean .. dev being dev
tame merlin
Ye true..
lament sigil
Please buff EC
digital berry
5.6 is adequate
craggy sonnet
doesnt know what they are doing
lofty depot
How is that high
jaunty blaze
after the race they revert the cap back to x25 and we gucci
craggy sonnet
i dont think thats close to nerf territory
lofty depot
Never
merry crow
it's right around most specs and we have a chance to do some really big dam on the amp bosses
lofty depot
Best u'll get is 15
tame merlin
Compared to where it was. Thought the new sim would be around 5.4-5.5. Still stupid compared to Locks
jaunty blaze
i take 15
lofty depot
Compared to where it was. Thought the new sim would be around 5.4-5.5. Still stu...
5.6 and 6.4 aren't competing
tame merlin
Jupp, true
royal zenith
he meant compared
craggy sonnet
compared*
lofty depot
Also, I can make that number. Bigger
craggy sonnet
and to our old sim
royal zenith
smh
craggy sonnet
that was something 5.8 or so?
lofty depot
Ye
craggy sonnet
also .. how much dam are we losing compared to the good proc specs from the cantrip set?
royal zenith
?
lofty depot
90% vs 30% hmm
Id have to look at sim and do maff
But its not that we're losing dam
craggy sonnet
it's right around most specs and we have a chance to do some really big dam on t...
well .. if you count multispeccing arent the only ones below that havoc and enhance?
craggy sonnet
But its not that we're losing dam
how so?
lofty depot
Bwcause some classes prefer stats to funny procs
craggy sonnet
and we got the thick end of the shaft
lofty depot
And shield maybe keep u alive
royal zenith
you'd need to compare it to every spec
craggy sonnet
its not proccing on yourself tho
royal zenith
cause it's dif per spec
craggy sonnet
or not reliably so
lofty depot
I'd look at lock then us
royal zenith
doesn't seem like efficient info to look into
digital berry
we are FREE from cyrces
craggy sonnet
well, the angle is that they unify that across specs
which would make us look better in comparison
royal zenith
royal zenith
well, the angle is that they unify that across specs
as in that's what you want?
lofty depot
royal zenith
cause it's not the case
lofty depot
Numby small
merry crow
screw it i'll take the extra shields over 0.5% damage
jaunty blaze
craggy sonnet
Numby small
that without set bonus tho, right?
storm cairn
One question guys, with the new buff, will the balance be playable?
mighty spire
How muchis the buff in %?
slate thicket
Compared to where it was. Thought the new sim would be around 5.4-5.5. Still stu...
atleast we outsim the worst lock specc on the worse hero tree now
little steps
craggy sonnet
cause it's not the case
you dont say..
lofty depot
that without set bonus tho, right?
The set bonus not good
other trinkets better
i did a sim actually its kinda close but meh
craggy sonnet
yeah but what's the point
its something stupid that they might reiterate on.. just talking tho idk
was obv an hypothetical
royal zenith
yeah but you're putting others to work to figure out something that's super irrelevant
in that case just check all the sims/specs yourself
cause it's a "oh I would like to know this" pov
digital berry
How muchis the buff in %?
check pins
craggy sonnet
im just talking like wth
zealous zenith
is our buff tonight or weekly reset?
digital berry
One question guys, with the new buff, will the balance be playable?
it always has been playable
lofty depot
jaunty blaze
next week
royal zenith
im just talking like wth
same 
lofty depot
so right, voidcore is 1.3% lower
craggy sonnet
same <:dracthyr_shrug:1002424254710689852>
seems like you are trying to push something on me for no reason
digital berry
eww 2 min cd trinket
royal zenith
bro it's not that deep
lofty depot
nop
craggy sonnet
so right, voidcore is 1.3% lower
that is kinda big actually.. hmm
lofty depot
u dont
patent fog
Did the druid buff work out, guys? Is it noticeable?
lofty depot
what is 114k
digital berry
im too stupid to play around a 2 min trinket with 1.5 min cds
lofty depot
Did the druid buff work out, guys? Is it noticeable?
yes
craggy sonnet
what is 114k
dps
lofty depot
im too stupid to play around a 2 min trinket with 1.5 min cds
is not hard
patent fog
Is the druid good now? @lofty depot
craggy sonnet
wdym?
lofty depot
Is the druid good now? <@121360917907767296>
have u heard of the song LOVE SOSA?
craggy sonnet
is that relevant?
royal zenith
but can you look it up though arctic
lucid olive
welcome to my world
royal zenith
ITs taking a bit long honestly
I want the specifics
of the procs per minute, dps, what dps we lose
the whole shebang
pronto
lofty depot
well i went from -0.4% moons to -2.9% moons
lucid olive
you go to bed and then you instinctively grab your phone and open discord
then 30 people want random shit from you
lofty depot
were going in the opposite direction but its not playing it properly
soooooooooooooooooooooooo
lucid olive
suddenly its 8am and you have to get up at 9:30
lofty depot
its also just likely not worth
but i want to make it do things, so i try and thats how u learn
craggy sonnet
idk how many times it hit or total damage
that satisfies you?
patent fog
Where would you rank SĆSA in full gear now? š
lofty depot
that does
patent fog
@lofty depot
lofty depot
Where would you rank SĆSA in full gear now? š
at least a 9
normal pilot
unlucky playing a bad spec
digital berry
Arenāt you playing it ?
craggy sonnet
but our dps might be higher from the stats alone
sure .. but we are still losing almost 1% from the weapon alone
lofty depot
Arenāt you playing it ?
???
lofty depot
sure .. but we are still losing almost 1% from the weapon alone
do me a favor, if u reply to me ever, leave that on
thanks
patent fog
@lofty depot pm pls.
craggy sonnet
sure
lofty depot
sorry i was on phone
royal zenith
emotionally?
digital berry
Ikr I wanted to do an m0 before work
unique remnant
How do you think the boomy is doing with these changes?
unique remnant
I like it
chrome sable
Boomie sims how much now?
maiden pasture
4.89m
royal zenith
@chrome sable
I understand new people asking
but you?
out of all people?
can't read pins?
SMH
chrome sable
Bro Iām on mobile I donāt see pins
royal zenith
also it's around 5.6mil
royal zenith
ye
chrome sable
You crybabys got what you wanted
digital berry
Bro Iām on mobile I donāt see pins
You can still check them? On mobile ?
surreal sorrel
sorry i was on phone
still awake?
chrome sable
also it's around 5.6mil
Also wtf sims more than BM and MM gg
chrome sable
You can still check them? On mobile ?
A lot of effort
surreal sorrel
nice
royal zenith
Also wtf sims more than BM and MM gg
that sounds a bit sus
digital berry
A lot of effort
2 touches
chrome sable
that sounds a bit sus
BM 5.5 MM 5.4
royal zenith
BM 5.5 MM 5.4
rough
digital berry
lock in thats a sick number
Hmmm
royal zenith
good thing BM can run around freely
digital berry
lock in thats a sick number
What is that current gear 2.6 mill dps 
lofty depot
What is that current gear 2.6 mill dps <:KEKWCOOL:687227777950416908>
think its taking current like 687 gear and not ptr
lofty depot
surely thats every 723
nah
digital berry
think its taking current like 687 gear and not ptr
Thatās still low for current gear no?
misty patrol
BM 5.5 MM 5.4
Noob 
lofty depot
Thatās still low for current gear no?
yea but my simc al lfucked cuz i have a million funny sims
and no old one
:/
craggy sonnet
you focus on fixing moons good sir
craggy sonnet
results are due on monday
lofty depot
but making it do funny things in the sim is what im trying to do
doing funny things on frost mage ezpz
doing things on boomkin hard
craggy sonnet
fuming savage incoming
lofty depot
oooooooooooooooo
lucid olive
do me a favor, if u reply to me ever, leave that on
lol nerd get fucked haha dumb bitch
stiff ember
How good are the buffs for m+
lofty depot
not sure on what tho
the staff
lofty depot
3.3% absolujte bigger
lofty depot
i will be fixing moons then getting sleep
safe kite
Don't fix moons nobody likes moon, let moons be dead
craggy sonnet
also whats the idea with moons?
lofty depot
Don't fix moons nobody likes moon, let moons be dead
jsut wait til wildmushroom gets fixed bud
BUTTON BLOAT IS COMING
vital yarrow
lofty depot
safe kite
jsut wait til wildmushroom gets fixed bud
The Moonshroom build will forever be illegal
lucid olive
I have to log in and beat him don't I
sudden flame
he's locked in
safe kite
Just go guardian
lofty depot
he's locked in
he's not locked
safe kite
it takes like 15 minutes but all you have to do is literally not stand in shit
and hope brann doesn't kill you
muted sleet
Are percentages out for the buff?
sudden flame
Are percentages out for the buff?
pins lil pup
muted sleet
preesh big dog
lucid olive
it takes like 15 minutes but all you have to do is literally not stand in shit
can do it under 10 min
i wiped on 2.5% at like 9 minutes
sudden flame
lofty depot
Are percentages out for the buff?
in the pins prob
safe kite
i wiped on 2.5% at like 9 minutes
was it because Brann refused to fucking move? if so you have my deepest condolences he wiped me at like 11% and very nearly broke my face against the wall
lucid olive
was it because Brann refused to fucking move? if so you have my deepest condolen...
no I failed the cup game
digital berry
safe kite
no I failed the cup game
That's somehow worse
lucid olive
yeah i suck
lucid olive
That's somehow worse
craggy sonnet
https://www.twitch.tv/itsgamz/clip/AdorableFineWebThisIsSparta-1QJ7VICVgr1hc0L9
top right?
safe kite
a painful watch
digital berry
top right?
Thatās what I was thinking
lucid olive
top right?
yeah she dashed across and i panicked
vagrant prawn
watched it and i thought you had it right the first time haha
craggy sonnet
@lofty depot so whats the idea for moons? what do think it should do
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> so whats the idea for moons? what do think it should do
think it should not talent it
craggy sonnet
think it should not talent it
nice
lofty depot
the idea is for me to move it around and introduce holds and conditions
lofty depot
tell me it's not
?
safe kite
Stellarflare + Shrooms + Moon build when?
craggy sonnet
the idea is for me to move it around and introduce holds and conditions
like im not even sure which moon you'd wanna send in CA
lofty depot
-0.5%
lofty depot
like im not even sure which moon you'd wanna send in CA
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
u can precast fm, and press ca before it lands
lofty depot
the 5.8m sim is no variance
craggy sonnet
u can precast fm, and press ca before it lands
but thats only for it to count towards 4p cap?
or does it benefit from CA
lofty depot
the point of it was the sim wasnt getting the 2nd 2 ca cd window
craggy sonnet
cuz i thought CA buffed on cast success
lofty depot
so in 5m sims... u 2ca 1ca 2ca
but if it only goes to like 420 it doenst get the whole 2nd 2ca window in
clearly losing damage and is unfair
lofty depot
cuz i thought CA buffed on cast success
it was for dryad buff
craggy sonnet
but that doesnt matter, right?
craggy sonnet
since cap so low
lofty depot
it did before
scenic mist
the 5.8m sim is no variance
so might just be a highroll is what you mean ?
lofty depot
well cap isnt low... we have 3% dam instead of 2%
lofty depot
so might just be a highroll is what you mean ?
huh
plush prairie
tried everything to disable this shit and I just can't
plush prairie
advanced interface options
addon?
craggy sonnet
craggy sonnet
but i feel like you should be able to disable this with blizz settings as well
plush prairie
but i feel like you should be able to disable this with blizz settings as well
it's disabled, also disabled it using the command from their website, relogged still same thing but i'll try that addon
lofty depot
first i did a 5m sim and said fuck it if were cooking it, we mise well make it as close as possible to the end
craggy sonnet
what website?
craggy sonnet
oh
plush prairie
I just changed value to 0 hoping it would disable it, but didn't
the addon worked tho
craggy sonnet
yea try advanced interface options
craggy sonnet
i think it has options for that
plush prairie
thanks
craggy sonnet
nice
plush prairie
having to get an addon to disable an annoying blizzard feature holy moly
lofty depot
of course resto kekkers knows how to turn off healy numbys
digital berry
I am pretty positive you can disable those in game but you might have some weird addon keeping them on
craggy sonnet
they are
plush prairie
I am pretty positive you can disable those in game but you might have some weird...
I had the option in the options disabled, ran the command and just didn't so maybe yeah another addon conflict but when I installed advanced interface thingy I was able to disable it
craggy sonnet
but i have no numbys on in fact
digital berry
Yeah surely itās an addon conflict
lofty depot
but i have no numbys on in fact
how do u know if ur piping?
plush prairie
sadly have too many addons to go through manually and try figure it out
craggy sonnet
ok .. that 2nd charge is literally justcoming up at like 255s
so nothing really to play around there
or is the first CA also affected cuz its trying to squeeze the dryad favor surges in the 2nd charge
digital berry
Any dryad buff weak aura yet ? I cannot write my own to safe my life
craggy sonnet
like what do you want the aura to do?
digital berry
Let you know itās expiring or smth, likes flashing icon countdown from 3 ?
lofty depot
Any dryad buff weak aura yet ? I cannot write my own to safe my life
oibalanceptr
lofty depot
or is the first CA also affected cuz its trying to squeeze the dryad favor surge...
nah its to do with the last set of cds
craggy sonnet
Let you know itās expiring or smth, likes flashing icon countdown from 3 ?
whats expiring? the ss buff? or treants?=
digital berry
The dryad before you get the ss buff
craggy sonnet
isnt the dryad hard bound to treant duration anyways?
digital berry
No?
lofty depot
isnt the dryad hard bound to treant duration anyways?
ca
craggy sonnet
yeyeye
lofty depot
craggy sonnet
also didnt get enough sleep
sudden flame
tettles 
lofty depot
jovial needle
He did it
craggy sonnet
Let you know itās expiring or smth, likes flashing icon countdown from 3 ?
but there is a buff connected to the dryad directly
so should be easy to track
fathom tulip
Anyone able to sim the fibers on raidbots?
lofty depot
Anyone able to sim the fibers on raidbots?
u can
dry compass
where dis aura from
fathom tulip
u can
How? I can't add different fibers on top gear
Anyhows, being kotg ahead of ec again for raiding, mastery should be the go to right
lofty depot
Anyhows, being kotg ahead of ec again for raiding, mastery should be the go to r...
could be crit, never know
(its likely mastery)
craggy sonnet
nah its to do with the last set of cds
so its not misplaying anything due to some apl condition
grave willow
what talents u used bro
craggy sonnet
number is real
lofty depot
what talents u used bro
thats tettles not mine
grave willow
ah
digital berry
It was haste for me unless I failed at simming
lofty depot
no and it wasnt a misplay that was the problme
craggy sonnet
no and it wasnt a misplay that was the problme
do you still have that 240s sequence handy?
lofty depot
well i showed a picture of it
lofty depot
i did
craggy sonnet
wait
lofty depot
it stops at 4:12
thorn coral
can someone give me Reforgelite for boomie in mop classic pvp?
craggy sonnet
why does it pop CA so late then?
lofty depot
try the classic server
zinc moon
Just coming back after a good bit of time away how is the state of my boomy was hearing the death bells but last min buff good? Keeper good?
lofty depot
why does it pop CA so late then?
well its waiting for convoke
sand remnant
Hey everyone, I'm getting back into this patch and I'm wondering if I should switch back to Druid Balance.
How will these 8% balance buffs be viable for Raid and M+?
lofty depot
or trees
lofty depot
Just coming back after a good bit of time away how is the state of my boomy was ...
yes,yes
craggy sonnet
well its waiting for convoke
convoke doesnt sound right
lofty depot
yea
zinc moon
Yea my main focus is like 10-14 keys nothing crazy
craggy sonnet
considering cotd
digital berry
Yea my main focus is like 10-14 keys nothing crazy
Everything is viable in those key levels
craggy sonnet
and it shouldnt wait for trees
lofty depot
Yea my main focus is like 10-14 keys nothing crazy
u wouldve been fine in those regardless
craggy sonnet
since we wanna delay trees to last til end of dryad
zinc moon
I mean is it though boomy ramp when weak in low keys is tough af lmao
lofty depot
need to find the sim agian
lofty depot
I mean is it though boomy ramp when weak in low keys is tough af lmao
just play with people with no gear
ezpz
zinc moon
Keeper or Elune after buffs
digital berry
Elune
zinc moon
just play with people with no gear
Oooo you right you right
sand remnant
I was in doubt between Druid Balance, Shaman Elemental, Destro Lock or Dev Evokoer
normal pilot
if you're worried about low key ramp just don't play balance
sounds like you were already considering other specs
lofty depot
convoke doesnt sound right
uses trees at 250
zinc moon
It was boomy or dev for me
normal pilot
nothing changed to consider balance for your situation
lofty depot
then holds for next ca
zinc moon
Just love my boomy
lofty depot
2m sequence is convoke at 2:09
craggy sonnet
uses trees at 250
so it is misplaying here
normal pilot
do you though? it sounds like you're annoyed at playing balance for the keys you're doing
normal pilot
wow is not a balance game there's no need to unreasonably stick to a spec just because, play the spec that's more fun for your content
craggy sonnet
so it saves it
sure thats not the issue
it is wasting CA duration at the end
and doesnt get the 2nd SS off
zinc moon
do you though? it sounds like you're annoyed at playing balance for the keys you...
Well everything I was reading coming back had some
Heavy doom and gloom. So wasnāt sure how viable it was going to be kinda like destro your trolling playing a full destro build in low keys you know
lofty depot
i suppose it could press ca and trees earlier to then get convoke as it ends, and convoke uses the charges
craggy sonnet
i suppose it could press ca and trees earlier to then get convoke as it ends, an...
convoke should be up way earlier
lofty depot
holds for trinket
fringe flame
wowhead m+ talents are good?
normal pilot
everything is viable you'll just have more fun with some specs over others. don't stick to something that's not fun just because
digital berry
wowhead m+ talents are good?
Check compendium
craggy sonnet
if it convoked at 2:09 considering cotd, it was up at like idk 3:55
digital berry
Since we donāt have s3 tier set yet nothing has changed
lofty depot
doesnt change anything i think
fringe flame
Check compendium
no idea what that is š
lofty depot
if it convoked at 2:09 considering cotd, it was up at like idk 3:55
yea im sorry dude im fried
digital berry
no idea what that is š
Pins
lofty depot
its liekly holding for trinket
craggy sonnet
yea maybe
it shouldnt tho
for end of fight
it should have sent CA 12s prior at the latest then dumped AP, FoN 10s prior to end, then could have still do random shit to convoke with trinket back up into spending the dryad surges
craggy sonnet
surely thats 0.1% right there
conditions gotta be somewhat fried tho if it did this in one iteration
lofty depot
is a sample idk
craggy sonnet
should never happen
lofty depot
it cna do w.e.
craggy sonnet
no it really cant
craggy sonnet
damn clank(er)z
sage aspen
Is the recommended ST raid build gonna change from EC to KotG?
lofty depot
yes
sage aspen
do you have the build?
lofty depot
uhh
sage aspen
updating boomie alt
normal pilot
damn did tettles beat him
normal pilot
tragic
lofty depot
Gamz gonna be over 100
normal pilot
oh is gamz still ahead on pull count
rich jewel
@normal pilot did u say some specs had different shiel/dmg proc ratios from int cantrips in raid, or is that accounted for in sim already
lucid olive
i got 17 pulls left
lofty depot
<@203287826190565376> did u say some specs had different shiel/dmg proc ratios f...
Yes they are
And yes they do
Good class 90%
craggy sonnet
i got 17 pulls left
confidence meter?
lofty depot
Shit class 30%
rich jewel
Where can i see a list
lucid olive
confidence meter?
0
scenic mist
i got 17 pulls left
16
craggy sonnet
dang
rich jewel
Thanks
lofty depot
Thanks
But right, it's possible that the damage proc doesn't matter and some classes like stats
I showed a sim for frost mage vs balance and balance inc was 3.3 vs frost at 3
rich jewel
Sure but the alternative is always a 2h crafted right so stats wont differ by a huge amount
Its 3 ilvl though
sage aspen
thanks!
rich jewel
We use lol
craggy sonnet
sure you do
chilly radish
anyone got ne sims after the buff?
lofty depot
Only tauren only
chilly radish
i take that
civic junco
Thank you to our SIM Big Brains btw. I love and appreciate you
frail sonnet
is that a overall updated simm of all specs?
lofty depot
Huh
lofty depot
Lol @ johnblizzard
royal zenith
is it actually random though
craggy sonnet
you tell me
lofty depot
Destro 50, demo/aff 90
craggy sonnet
its random in my perception
merry crow
boomkins said we're squishy so they said okay we'll give you more shields
royal zenith
it's not random, else they wouldn't be dif values per spec
probably something to do with being hybrid or w.e.
royal zenith
they are not the low 33%
royal zenith
could also just be that some classes gain way more damage from it
and they accounted for that
lofty depot
They're accounting now?
craggy sonnet
is there like any dmg amp that works on trinkets?
lofty depot
abstract thinking is hard huh arctic
I'm not an artist, but I'm artistic
lofty depot
like this one
No
lucid olive
yeah its random as fuck
sometimes i look other direction and win, other times i stare right at it and get fucked
dry compass
seems like something no one bothered to test above 35 ping lol
ionic oak
dense steeple
lofty depot
w honestly
gusty rain
what build should i run on bala in m+ ?
craggy sonnet
Same as previously
cobalt thicket
Which talents are best for M+? keeper of the Grove or Elune Chosen?
stone tiger
How are we looking after we got patched?
lofty depot
Which talents are best for M+? keeper of the Grove or Elune Chosen?
its week 1 u can play w.e. u want
ec probably better the higher u go
lofty depot
How are we looking after we got patched?
read the pin
timber grove
artic your talent screen shot has durability of nature on is that intentional
timber grove
figured it was something like that
lofty depot
im locked in
timber grove
I just watched Voulk kill it on pres 14m fight lol
teal sphinx
im locked in
Stop rebranding. We can still smell its you
lofty depot
?
lavish jungle
Hey guys. After the latest changes, what are the predictions, how much stronger will boomkin become in keys in both hero specs?
tulip wind
Hey guys. After the latest changes, what are the predictions, how much stronger ...
its in the pins :)
celest rampart
its in the pins :)
is that for raid or m+ too?
celest rampart
Hey guys. After the latest changes, what are the predictions, how much stronger ...
EC: +2.7%
KOTG: +13.2%
KOTG is 2.5% ahead of EC
bronze pine
Why is a message from 2018 in the pins
lavish jungle
its in the pins :)
sry, didnt see
celest rampart
Why is a message from 2018 in the pins
why not?
just re-installed today, which m+ are people playing?
lavish jungle
so kotg will be ahead in both raids and m+?
celest rampart
so kotg will be ahead in both raids and m+?
not sure if it applies to m+ too, difficult to sim properly
ahh wait it says single target in the pins*
wicked shuttle
so kotg will be ahead in both raids and m+?
Nah. Just raid
lucid olive
im dogshit
lofty depot
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
plucky forge
someone got weakaura for pulls ?
celest rampart
Nah. Just raid
are the m+ specs still within a small % of eachother?
lofty depot
I FORGOT TO HOTW
lucid olive
xdddd
pallid bay
I FORGOT TO HOTW
tawdry trellis
Are people able to fill out their 3rd dungeon slot if they repeat one of the M0?
lofty depot
yes
vagrant path
Does anyone know what the % increase or decrease was for balance damage from yesterdays tuning?
tawdry trellis
In the pins
vagrant path
ty
wicked shuttle
im dogshit
normal pilot
smh mod bullying reddit was right
sturdy wigeon
Whats the wa to track the amount of attempts?
sturdy wigeon
https://wago.io/KyvezaPullCounter
Ty!
lime walrus
Did i see someone post a new HUD WA earlier? or am I cooked?
mossy estuary
how is boomie looking currently? been stuck trying to decide of going back to sp main or stick to boomie
lofty depot
Did i see someone post a new HUD WA earlier? or am I cooked?
huh
lofty depot
how is boomie looking currently? been stuck trying to decide of going back to sp...
bing chillin
lime walrus
something about tracking SF or something like that, I dont recall totally what it was
lofty depot
tracking sf....
lime walrus
I think u posted it Sosa
lofty depot
i dont post anything
mossy estuary
bing chillin
thank you
sudden flame
did gamz kill it
normal pilot
didn't you kill it first
lucid olive
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
where stream bud
if i get peer pressured to stream it you do too
exotic perch
im gonna wait till i have 35 more ilvls and do it way easier idk about you guys
lofty depot
if i get peer pressured to stream it you do too
uhhh
maiden pasture
what u doing instead on wow this week
wicked shuttle
Doing it on stream is way harder than off
lucid olive
real
solemn idol
Some of those pulls dont count either. Gamz was like doing tuning math in his head and responding to chat mid pulls hah for a bit last night
lucid olive
yeah answering chat is a crutch
dreamy locust
Boomkin players never seen a kyveza smh
wicked shuttle
I think im gonna turn my kill into a nice youtube video
frigid yoke
sorry to ask but whats the fastest delve today ? š
u killed it tettles ?
good job
lucid olive
I think im gonna turn my kill into a nice youtube video
have the intro with your fails and reactions and stuff
solemn idol
We'll just assume you took more pulls than gamz
wicked shuttle
I think the intro will be me shit talking delves
lucid olive
okay yeah thats good
find a clip where you say that its easy and free content and not challenging
lofty depot
I think the intro will be me shit talking delves
or u jumping out the window
lucid olive
and then put circus music over a 5 second compilation of you dying to blades
before showing the kill pull
thatd go crazy
sudden flame
and then put circus music over a 5 second compilation of you dying to blades
206 
you failed badly
exotic perch
yo where tf is darkmoon faire entrance for horde
pallid bay
sorry to ask but whats the fastest delve today ? š
kyveza ??
solemn idol
TB
misty glade
Last night the pin said EC was still ahead. Did the apl get updated too?
solemn idol
Or talk to the dmf people in org
misty glade
yo where tf is darkmoon faire entrance for horde
Either fly to TB or get ported from atop Orgrimmar
exotic perch
ah i see ty
strong bronze
Last night the pin said EC was still ahead. Did the apl get updated too?
Keeper is 2.5% better now
exotic perch
clearly they didnt think of horde when they made dmf
wicked shuttle
Last night the pin said EC was still ahead. Did the apl get updated too?
Better APL yeah
misty glade
Keeper is 2.5% better now
Yup. But last night the initial pin had ec still up by 2%
wicked shuttle
Gamz and Sune had some updates to using the tier set
exotic perch
5.6 i think
scenic mist
Better APL yeah
so is this number accurate ?
wicked shuttle
accurate in what sense?
If you simmed it with the PTR string enabled then yeah it's accurate
solemn idol
Tettles going to use the previous guide you had written before the initial tuning changed to EC on top? Or have to make some changes to the original?
wicked shuttle
I need to rewrite a lot of it i think
a lot of it is denouncing KOTG in all content
weary siren
Kotg back on the Menu Boys
exotic perch
i mean its a great upgrade from EC in raid content
humble lantern
Kotg back on the Menu Boys
Back to bench in raid
patent girder
Hello guys. Does beating the ?? Delve this week give you anything at all or is it just a big challenge?
digital berry
Back to bench in raid
I havenāt seen the bench last season maybe itās a skill issue
digital berry
Hello guys. Does beating the ?? Delve this week give you anything at all or is i...
Street cred
And a mount
humble lantern
I havenāt seen the bench last season maybe itās a skill issue
You play in top 300 guild doesnt matter
patent girder
What is street cred?
digital berry
What is street cred?
People will think youāre amazeballz
patent girder
Oh, okay then. Better get to grinding. How doable is it on a 674?
digital berry
You play in top 300 guild doesnt matter
Whatcha mean by that 
lofty depot
What is street cred?
aura
digital berry
Oh, okay then. Better get to grinding. How doable is it on a 674?
Doable but people are taking 100+ tries
lofty depot
Doable but people are taking 100+ tries
some are taking 200
lucid olive
damn imagine being those guys
digital berry
ivory torrent
Anyone has the myth vault screen shot on hand from kyveza
royal zenith
š
sudden flame
people out here really being baited by tettles ain't no way
round field
Did tettles kill yet
lofty depot
ye
round field
How many pulls
lofty depot
200
round field
Jesus
Not too late to go back to aug
(I love trashtalking all people who are doing it because i know id need atleast 500)
craggy sonnet
no way you bullied him into streaming it as well
livid forge
what better talents for kyveza?
craggy sonnet
aaaaand the nerves are already kicking in harrrd
lucid olive
he has the tyler1 mic sheesh
craggy sonnet
it should have sent CA 12s prior at the latest then dumped AP, FoN 10s prior to ...
@lucid olive did you catch this?
its regarding this sample sequence
lucid olive
yeah its just using shit because fight is almost over
craggy sonnet
its using it kinda bad tho?
somewhat tanks the sim
idk if its a lot of effort to get it to respect end of fight a bit better
pallid bay
that dosnt seem bad or
like it could use trinket earlier but thats it no?
losing 2s of CA
pallid bay
oh yeah thats bad
snow elm
If a star surge is sent right before an eclipse ends, does it retain the eclipse bonus even if eclipse isnāt active
jade drift
are we doing better than ferals atm?
for st
my guildie asked me if i could play feral b4 buffs
pallid bay
ferals are a bit better
tranquil plank
If a star surge is sent right before an eclipse ends, does it retain the eclipse...
All projectiles are resolved when the projectile is sent. That includes popping defensive after a projectile is in the air not being effective, etc.
lone root
Hey guys, quick one here, i've been told by guildies to do 8 delves and 8 mythic 0 for vault, delves are done but, there aren't 8 dungeons in mythic 0 available actually, can i only run 6 for the vault and then re-run 2 of them despite getting no loot from the run ?
void crest
W
pallid bay
gg
tranquil plank
Hey guys, quick one here, i've been told by guildies to do 8 delves and 8 mythic...
Would you take champion tier over a socket week 1? If you answer yes, then run two more ecodomes.
short cipher
Wouldn't delve slots drop hero pieces?
tranquil plank
It does yes
maiden pasture
theres like such a low chance u take an m0 piece. the only chance is if like idk ur delve pieces are all shit, u roll a tier piece from m0 slots and get so unlucky from raid that u get no tier pieces and need to take a champ piece to get ur 4pc
tranquil plank
It's so situation specific though. There isn't a 'best' answer for everyone.
I don't think I would take the champ piece ever, tiers are long and I'm not out here trying to optimize week 2 raid prog :P
round field
casual
oak condor
i will jump soon
round field
pallid bay
i will jump soon
tranquil plank
casual
Pfffr imagine not having 93 toons + splits so you are full hero day 1? Filthy casuals.
loud kettle
10 min 2 sec
pallid bay
bro got greedy
craggy sonnet
im fuming right now .. that stupid grub smashing wq wont let me click on the last fucking maggot
like 10 people here
and 5 spawns
sudden flame
10 min 2 sec
average caster kill time
lofty depot
im fuming right now .. that stupid grub smashing wq wont let me click on the las...
can he say that
willow torrent
Hey owls, I have a question about the talent decision: Whirling Stars vs. Orbital Strike. Is the damage difference that bad? Personally, I get along better with Orbital Strike, but a guildmate always asks me, "Why not Whirling Stars?" Or is it really just a matter of taste?
worthy pond
im fuming right now .. that stupid grub smashing wq wont let me click on the las...
The new WQs have atrocious spawn rates. That one where you had to cage 8 animals took like 20 minutes lol
craggy sonnet
The new WQs have atrocious spawn rates. That one where you had to cage 8 animals...
yea immediately skipped that one
but it legit didnt let me click these guys
like this last one
lofty depot
Hey owls, I have a question about the talent decision: Whirling Stars vs. Orbita...
next tier its lkely massive (i havent simmed it)
oblique ingot
What are we going to play in M+ EC or KOTG?
lucid olive
EC
oblique ingot
even with the nerf to it and the buff to KOTG?
fossil hemlock
EC is still buffed from where it was
Set got nerfed and baseline got buffed, still a net gain
oblique ingot
yeah but, KOTG got buffed in tier and over all. hmm. š
craggy sonnet
also they didnt really help kotg in what made it good in m+ early on ptr
(that being funnel)
trim estuary
We back fam?
lofty depot
+20ish last night
celest narwhal
Is it just a memorization thing for kyāveza
Or does it hit like a truck and is actually a little annoying
sudden flame
nah melees are manageable
pallid bay
really on hurts during the drifts
lofty depot
So you taking 76 attempts is bc ur bad
gamz and tettles took 200+
soooooooooo whats that make them
also i had like 20-25 from last night
before i got weakaura :/
pallid bay
20-25 
lofty depot
crisp topaz
actually gaming 
short cipher
You guys are doing healer brann right?
crisp topaz
I was yeah
crisp topaz
Mines 81 
celest narwhal
I never had a reason to level him up
olive trout
Killing kyveza in hard mode give smth now or whats the reason of people doing it now?
lunar whale
What do you guys think bala will be using as a weapon from new raid? Staff or dagger?
strong bronze
I think she just gives a mount , but also there isnt really that much to do week 1
meager storm
Killing kyveza in hard mode give smth now or whats the reason of people doing it...
Nothing else to do, with current gear itās a challenge
dire latch
So, the st buff for us seems big, but how is the m+ performance you guys think? We back baybee?
lofty depot
Killing kyveza in hard mode give smth now or whats the reason of people doing it...
shows u have a massive shlong
oak condor
finally
dire latch
Ye i guess, but we didnt look too hot for m+ before this
meager storm
Well itās a buff thatās all I know
Just gotta wait for people to test it on high keys
lucid olive
nah hes dogshit anyway
quiet drift
Resto might knock Boomie out also just due to comp building
lucid olive
just throw me the coca cola and put the fries in the bag
autumn fulcrum
is there anyone who knows how to get the ptr simc to work, cause i can't figure it out and it's not working I know it's the "ptr=1" but i can't seem to make it work either way
lucid olive
is there anyone who knows how to get the ptr simc to work, cause i can't figure ...
put ptr=1 in the expert mode header
thorn nebula
Are there still some pending APL changes that need to be pushed to simc? Wanted to take a look and see if I can help with anything
lofty depot
yea gotta make moons and wildmushroom better
crisp topaz
moons 
thorn nebula
Aw man we still have merged KoTG and EC priorities
Maybe I can just take a look at that for now and see if I can unravel it
lucid olive
yes