#balance
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Last I checked there's 7 half hour time zones, the 1 I live in is Newfoundland Canada
People finding new land in Canada when 80% of it is uninhabitable
So they call it Newfoundland
🇨🇦 🦫 🏒
NA naming conventions not the brightest
Which is funny because we're the oldest settlement in north america, but the youngest to join confederation
Confederation 👀
gamz did u put the call in yet I dont wanna play mage
Not that confederation x.D Luckily
Frost mage fun, what u mean
I've left 30 missed calls on Blizzard reception desk
Basically the east coast was the last parts to be considered canadian and not british
But don't u speak French?
mm glacial spike
I'm confused
The receptionist stopped answering me after the 20th call telling her to buff moonkin
Probably tweet at that dev making fun of boomkins
No buffs here, anywhere in Australia that isn’t Sydney time zone is wrong and weird though
I tried my hand at a pun tweet yesterday but an hour later I felt ashamed cause it was so bad
Maybe take their profile picture and put it on the boomkin that's getting kicked
See how they like it 
That damn staircase will haunt me forever
(took me a day to figure out how to say that in a nice way)
Wouldve been thymedout on monday
@wicked shuttle I saw on Twitter that you're modern WoWs biggest sandbagger, that's gotta be worthy title right?
Should have that on your mailbox or something
Change his email to that prob
Just saw a copy pasta in rle and come to think of it, we haven't had any new copypastas in a while
Need some controversy
The tweet was insane
Next week will have some bangers
wow players are like that social experiment where you lock up and abuse a bunch of ppl and instead of turning on the abusers they start turning on each other
I don't want to turn on anyone
"I was gonna pay in ~2m gold too but I lost interest anyway, no offense but getting told off like that really didn't sit right with me"
Oops
He probably replied to it, hmm

Is this right that 681 shoulders is 20k better and it breaks season 2...4 pc tier?
Heroic bis isn't good btw (shouldve had crafted staff)
So many 675 items
can we lock in plz
Yeah i was just reading up on get the crafted staff until such tim i got something else :S
ty
So next week we play kotg ? Until 2p-2p ?
Yes
Crab bucket
We are the crabs
Also, just a house keeping thing. If u don't pay attention to patchnotes or day to day stuff. Come back next Tuesday and ask
Heroic bis is epic! (It’s all I’ll ever have)

Well u could r crafted and it be better
Just get a visions weapon
We're not even that bad rn mate
Next week when everyone starts getting tier we go in the dumpster
But this week is fine
if you can't do damage rn, you might as well just not play bamkin at all!!
!!
back to aug for me
I’m trying to keep up as best I can, but yeah, right now I’m a bit lost about what to play next Wednesday.
707 is the highest cloak this week right>?
714 if u cheat
It's likely going to be keeper until you have access to tier set, but it's very susceptible to tuning so there is no right answer for you today
is raiderio broke or, cant sync
It's been broken on and off for like two weeks
Dunno if they migrated hosts or what
Maybe they share a datacentre with XAI and all the gooners are eating up the bandwidth
707 without exploits, yes
my 619 legs are gone
That's okay you only need two anyway
sucks theres no bountifuls tbh
does ilvl from group finder still take your hjighest in bags?
hm mythic dimensius buffs already

Did they buff us too
waste of time to buff bench spec
dimensius buff?
i actually kinda like feral but id like to not play melee ever if i have to 
melee would be so fun if it was ranged
Mage prison
my guild is trying to gaslight me to play dk again..
That key is bricked
WHAT WEEK IS IT
wtf
only 8?
Thats pretty degen
whats the sauce
Better have 800 alts
Isnt it 50 per account?
im pretty sure they increased it
Idk I threw out a funny number
If they increased it
haha. 800
Its 100% possible
Might to push to 10 this week then
(im renown 4)
Wqs
just all wqs with dmf and contract yeah?
have the weird sparkles in dorgogal been figured out yet?
what number is an average THD degen week?
had someone in guild have that and it went away after questing a bit
logged in today and still here so eh
an assesment doesnt require sympathy
Sparkles on ur screen?
ye
bottom of the screen yeah
you get random sparkles at the bottom of ur screen
Assume it phase shift thing or aomething
it's only in dorn
Hmm
between the forge and portal building
wrong
it vanishes there
i had it in new zone aswell
With 50 characters
wait
ah right
no i dont wanna say ah right, explain it to me
so i dont look dumb
ok and?
i never said im not dumb...
On alts, just contract buff them for 15 rep each
Rinse repeat
so why couldnt you do renown 20?
why would you
Cause 18 is all that matters
wtf is oceh
True but

it ambigous!
echo m0s
are they special?
you get paid for being in there and being able to trade trinkets
3 of the brothers are doing dawnbreaker
only being able to app to 5 groups in 2025 is a crime still
Gamz name is still “Revert” so I guess no love from blizz yet. Will check again tomorrow
I just did a a skyriding WQ i already had done on my main on an alt, with contract; got no rep
did you gaslamp me?
I'll change to "THEY BUFFED US" whenever the tuning drops np
what if it's a nerf
Try a diff kind of wq
Possible hotfix
then i log out until midnight
Bless your heart
Lol a nerf would actually be funny and I wouldn’t be mad
nerf EC but give big aura buff 🧠
decline simulator gaming rn
jokes on you class is getting no changes
enjoy cat
no we have resto druids
true but do you really want to heal raid
Man I hope buffs come before my guild raids on wednesday. If not im going to be stuck on hunter.
either tmr or monday
because we suck 
if not then you wont see shit for about a month
I could play boomie if I really wanted to. And I do. But I don't want to be an affix on the raid.
unlucky
Before we get new tier, we would still play kotg in raid yeah?
Good. EC in raid seems both frustrating and boring simultaneously
Gotta greed those starfire casts
pins seem to say otherwise
pins talk about the new tier set
we only got aura buff coming from last patch to this patch
oh I guess I took "dead in all content" to mean that was still the case
Renown loophole fixed already
Yes, dead in all content when you get the new tier set
Since that's what was changed
Do we have a relative dps gain for balance 2pc/2pc and 4pc compared to last tiers set?
it doesn't really comapre. you swap to ec 2pc as soon as you get it
whers Artic been
I ate him
i missing coming here to see him roasting someone
topping the dps meters is not the only way you contribute to a raid group
Unless you’re looking to be in the hof or rwf you can play whatever you want
that sounds like what something you would say if you're the bottom of the dps meter
You'd be insane not wanting to be top dps, if you play dps
Hugely bigly
Teach me rotation
spellbook, drag single button to every action bar, faceroll
Thanks
if the spell doesn't start with "star" you're pressing the wrong thing
Asuh dood
Yo draco knows me
I'm famous
Oh that's fake draco
I'm tilted
Wrathstar
Surely. Tomorrow
hell yeah brother
so if i replace my current tier with the new tier at the exact same ilvl and sim EC, my dps goes up 6.7% over curren tier and kotg at the same ilvl. that seems good. why is balance so low? all the other class sets are just even stronger or balance scales poorly?
It's low cause it's tuned low
6.7% is not a lot of dps
you can check it with guildies/friends who play different classes
it's not 6.7% more than nothing. it's 6.7% more than the curren tier set
or the s2 tier set.
Im not sure what you would like to hear
U gain 6% someone else gains 20%
"guys why is this not good"
You compare your dps to other classes, you can't be good if the rest aint bad
chat fast what is the good delve to do
in a vacuum every % increase is 'good'
Undermine if coin thing
the one that you dont have to set the dumbass candle to see
i got told to go azure vault
Undermine or fungal usually
bhait?
I just did fungal, is like 5 to 10 min tops
Tekerethan was pretty fast this morning. Just ran to end swiping the boxes and killed boss.
its goblin mischief for tekrathan abyss
im pretty sure that one druids can do killing 1 mob
and its just the final boss
do balance druid and feral druids get along
overall not really
is it just like a personality thing
I like crazy
nah it's the smell
But that's 1/5092274929192, so no
ferals are stinky
well, maybe partially for boomy->feral because feral is a bunch of weirdos
And fricc that catsavage mother fuck
but its mostly just being on the same class
ah so the old words written in stone are true
cap, i dont even know if there are a hundred ferals..
Arctic you play mage now or what?
I played mage last tier too
Our mage player is quitting after this tier aswell
Gotta find a new one :/
EC 4pc is 9% better than season 2 4pc
EC isn't really that weak compared to other specs, the dmg profile just doesn't fit well with raid, especially not a raid where bosses have dmg amp phases
yeah, i hadn't simmed feral in so long, i couldn't do a comparison. i got 6.7% 4p to 4p gain as balance (maybe that would grow to 9% at higher ilvls) and feral big brains said their 4p to 4p is around 12.
its 9.6% at 684 season 2 ilvl
well, i'm 686 and just swithing out tier gives me 6.7%
i assume you have wrong EC talents and changing the actual tier set items instead of just simming the bonuses by themselves
hey, rerolling player here for s3 to balance druid. what is best sim option for balance (raid and m+) and good source to read up on rotation/specs for different bosses and dung
bold of you to assume they'll buff us in midnight
i may have done it wrong or am reading it wrong
are the ec talents in mine wrong or why am I not closer to 9% or whatever
your existing gear has corruption head enchant
and the gear is just different in general since you swapped out the items instead of enabling and disabling the bonuses
mage has been in a tough spot for a little while now. i feel like most classes have - game just is starting to not feel the same
the advanced sim i linked each profile uses season 2 tier pieces but with different bonuses enabled
so you get as accurate as possible representation of the bonuses themselves
Blud, it fucking hasnt
me when im delusional
idk i dont play mage anymore
then why do you talk?
mage being in a tough spot?
well thats definitely true
kek
Fire mages casting 4 spells ever "bad spot"
just dependant on tuning
mage good every single tier
They did however nerf it to the floor
big numbers = happy tingly feeling
They're scared of frost cast times
the head enchant doesn't do anything anymore
true, gs hitting last while you have 2 charges of flurry
youre saying the secondary changes cost me 3%?
with cloak its still a net positive
I'm bolt spamming
MILF?
your existing helm also has a socket and the new one doesnt
that's true. that's a real reason
and your EC talents take natures balance over twin moons
oh yeah, i unchecked the wrong one. adding a socket and fixing the talents gets it to 7.4%
are the m0s available this week for loot the 8 from next season or all of the TWW ones too
the 6 from next season but not taz
I mean I’m 650 with rats from group finder
Would you take a champion tier piece over a socket? It's a very short sighted decision, and imo the 2 extra ones are a waste barring being a guild that will be CE under 3 weeks doing zero splits.
i probably would still take the tier
Think of it like this. With current tuning is ur guild gonna give tier to a moonkin
Instead of a hunter or mage or dk
Am I playing feral until buffs in this hypothetical?
I dunno are u in feral channel
there are only x amount of tier pieces available in the first couple of weeks, vaults and boss kills and tier is so strong this season. feels like leaving a tier piece untaken is a bigger loss for the group during prog than having a socket hoarded away
but that's 100% feelycraft
You cant always get what you want, But if try sometimes, you'll get wrath damage increased by 5%
last thing i want is all damage increased by 20%
all dmg increased by 20.5%
Make it 20.75%
dont want it
dont want EC
bing kotg back
also why are 1200 people sitting here watching a still image
its for the radio
you mean the same 3 songs on repeat?
yes
weeb music
its called drum and bass
same melody repeated multiple times in a row
some people call that art
LYEK A TUCH DOWNE 
hey guys trying to decide between balance or shadow for my raid/keys alt. How does balance fair so far
Raid beans, m+ fine
ST not good in raids?
Nothing good in raid
ah dang
It'll surely get buffed/fixed like they normally buff shit after rwf
Idk I’m not playing balance most likely, and giving tier to balance sounds like rl being high
yes ||no||
Tuning will probably happen after rwf at this point, don’t get your hopes up
By .5 balance will be fine
when do we swap the ring we had at the end of S1 pls ?
which ring?

if its cyrce the answer is 2 days ago and you know it
sometimes I worry about you soma
"the ring"
to rule them all
I got the haste ring but forgot to sim it
Tho considering it’s war bound I’d probably rather put It on the shaman
holy sht
prog staff is gone
🕯️
gets eaten by dots too
bring back sporecloak
hold on now
just like playing boomie. instead of listeing to 3 songs you only click 3 spells
😢

This is surely user error
boomy is pretty strong in keys this week cuz of the 8% aura buff we got
well considering the number starts with a 1
Or 640 ilvl
Ec in m0 is also a choice
also 2 set
Ec in m0 is fine
yes i didn't play all of goblin trrash expansion
like you genuinely just do normal dps atm
opinions are my own
i mean you got no gear, why would you expect to deal any dmg?
i was actually surprised i beat the tank honestly
i haven't played boomkin since before bfa
that means you got no gear and you are bad on the class you are playing. atleast you beat the tank
Once you have gear and learn how to play you will also barely beat tank
😂
stick to ur guns
atleast feral is harder than boomie
you are one of them
wat
😮
Someone link world boss dps next, thats real endgame
3 fps 150 ping world boss dps
new pc time
Yeah it was a pretty cool 20 minute world boss
guys
20 minutes of pure adrenaline as everybody else died
car
car
truck
think it was 4 max ye
larias' guide says 6 keys hmm
should've sold it to liquid
11 pieces but like 7 slots are unusable
Buffs yet?
eww
ew
that's fake the moonkin would be interviewed from the bench
with a name like rusty cloaca we deserve this
Don’t kink shame
boomkin buffs right around the corner now..
I see them
if i close my eyes i can almost smell them
no bountifuls this week
next (you cant now)
buffs tomorrow for sure
last week they did tuning at like 8 pm or some sht
there is still time

right guys
You gotta believe!
tuning based off of world boss dps
anyone know the best deleve of the day
best?
usually undermine or fungal
just go slam dawg
most efficent
is wowhead down?
nope
weird, firefox won't load it
i got to use 3 so not bad not bad
@lofty depot @dense steeple thx
im like
50 ilvl behind

hard out here for a pimp
use any weathered crests to craft some blue gear
675 any slot except trinkets is pretty good

Rare kekkers w
is kekkers old now
Is boomie also dead in m+ btw
avg
To be fair as far as the m+ community is concerned, any spec that's not meta is dead
make m+ mandatory for raid. for middle 3 bosses you have to split in 4 5-man teams and complete the raid wing within timer before you can move onto the later bosses

Not fellowship
perfection
That game is good unlike m+
is this true chat
go ask them
hopefully not 
Peak game honestly.
dont believe so
was doti deathless
not this i think
doti was deathless
oh wow i thought that was bait ngl

nothing for boomy though 💀
Send link or liar
no war no druid, holy
took too long
💀
brothurr

Reported
Pretty sure they stopped doing that
how am I meant to know what to do..
not secifically balance related - but does the DISC belt ever give secondary stats?
what
the delve belt
what fight style do you guys use on raidbots?
Is there a skip for the cape?
patcherwerk 1t 5m
yes
thank you
u have to do a few quests into it after u port top tazavesh
but it says specifically skip
So, when we get buff?
february 33rd
not reading that essay
do we know trinkets to care about yet or too soon
Raid ones pretty much
ones that give move speed for old content farming because you are not raiding
oof
The highest ilvl ones so you're eligible to trade your guild the actual good trinkets since you'll be watching them prog

for agi/healer/tank specifics too, gotta help out multiple specs
druid so bis as a helper
I got the Stix tank trinket on like 2nd time we killed that boss so I could upgrade other trinket and shit
Can just send random tank trinket on your moonkin in splits so they're eligible to trade m+ trinkets 
ez pz
was that painful to get
no
like an hour and a half
(for stealth classes)
its actually super sick
cause the mount makes you the sick ass phase pink color
sounds like a nice activity to be doing from the bench!
so i'll keep that one open
anyone know what vault t8 is
that clip was gold
woah no way, kyveza is back
i watched it live lmao
Man who never played melee on kyveza mistake right there
cant even ddr
Does tier set changes? In july i saw dryad use 30% of surge and 100% of starfall. what i see now is 360% of surge and 800% of starfall
We play ec for raid?
@dense steeplehow long did phase lost and found take
2 hours tops
❤️
Tierlisters don't know this. But I have a list I'm keeping on them, and I am going to tier list them at the half patch and hold them accountable for the slop they pollute my youtube feed with
I only found 8 in 1 hour damn
Still like 30 to go
Not 30 really but you get it
The cheese is to shard hop i bet
Dumb that they cant just have way more or higher % chance
how do you shard hop
Join a group no ?
I guess just spam join WB groups
smart
guys, are we just doing the same thing as s2 and crafting wep first
omg
Hey guys , will we craft offhand with embelishment and play mainhand from raid ? Or the 2h from raid ?
will depend what ur guild is killing in said time frame of 2h craft
and whether or not u get weapons in vault
Yeah but decide right now thanks
just craft 2h because ur guild is gonna give u loot
dont kid urself ur not a 99 parser and even if u were ur still not better than a green parsing mage
sage tips for the boys
ur welcome
Flashback to that one log of a rank 1 feral losing to grey parsing warlock
option b
infiltrate the guild
get yourself in charge of loot
award loot
profit

I'm going for the 'be on holiday for the first 2 weeks of the raid releasing and hoping they funnel some shit after.'
Probably not going to happen
Funnel you a nice bench spot
For m0 witch trinket is bis for us ?
Rude and true
damn, balance sims are pre grim
feel sorry for u
fastest delve today ?
Always the shroom ❤️
same but idk if i want to 💀
literally only there to provide a buff at this point
fungal folly is usually pretty quick, havent checked what version is up today tho
Should we play EC in all content even though we still use the s2 tier set
Blizzard needs to save me from playing feral , better revert that tier change
No if you have s2 set use kotg
As soon as u get 2- piece of s3 set u can switch to elune due to starfire buff
And ilvl gain
any moment now
February 33rd
great news

Anyone done any simming for gear set for just doing m+, or is the raid spec the same cause it's also EC
probably
looking the actual sims kotg it's dead atm so is EC for both content
Kotg is behind ec in st in sims, but ec sim dps is not achievable so there’s a chance people will still play kotg
Absolutely not
Kotg does the same dmg as prot warrior
You are not playing that spec lmao
I wish people would stop saying this
As if you can reach KOTG sim dps either
It’s far harder for ec tho especially in a raid setting
God forbid u get a mechanic
That's a certified skill issue
it's not far harder
EC has a shitton of instant casts
it's more difficult sure, but it's not significant
Like it matters which hero talent you run around in bear on prog💀
Worst part about ec is no regrowth dmg reduction
And a big chunk of your dmg is on the builder which isn’t the case for kotg, especially on a 2 second cast builder
In emnithys case its kinda true
Cause hes shit at the game
So he might do more as keeper

I see where hes coming from
Who pissed in your cereal
may wanna revisit rule 1

Mr whiteknight
Dw he knows I’m a cracked balance player
Looking at ur logs the only thing cracked is ur wrist and monitor...
What more do you want from me, I have an avg of 99.2
ur getting buffed week 2 of the patch if ur lucky
Buffed up from going to the gym for 2 weeks. Become strong enough to break the bench
Use violence to place the RL on the bench
server going down. surely this is the buff yeh
Surely
I was in the middle of a flood gate damnit
Any idea how long it’s down for
says an hour
I wonder what broken thing is getting addressed
are we buffed yet
I identify as a broken thing
rolling back all the cheaters 🚔
get them all!
?? spell reflecters and 714 cape havers probably yeh
roll all of them back
us surely
where can i find balance ST sims? dont see them on simulationcraft
video? 
we trying to sandbag our 6.7 mil sim
How reliable is the BIS list on wowhead?
To me the antenna seems a bit like sim bait, and wouldn't it be better to rock the trinket to pair with the weapon either way?
Anyone knows?
The answer is always sim it
You wanna feel sad so early in the day?
Is Gamzs name still “Revert”?
Not very
As any other bis list
Has been the case for years
Bis lists are engagement bait
yeah its my alt anyway
Like 4.8 keeper and 5.3 Elunes Chosen
but i gotta make fun of the boomies ik
you got the full report?
5.3 EC isnt that bad
havoc sims the same
no that's entirely different
every class in simc is independently developed
it makes no sense to compare across classes
but you can compare within a class as it goes off the same basis
bis lists havent been used since 2012, just like stat weights
If you just want to play the game and you want something to chase after go ahead
If you actually care about optimisation sim your char
boomie is fine both offensively and defensively
Wonder if we will take Voke for the bosses with damage amps
You'll get them with reset on Tuesday if they're coming
Cope
boomie is die?
yes
Boomie is die
Boomie is die
20 sided
that would be 100% success rate
I dont play dnd, isn't 1 bad and 20 good
ya but a 1 sided die with only 1 means you always win
20 is bigger than 1
well not if you're trying to roll from 1 to 20 right
20 is indeed very good
20 doesn't exist for balance

In SL when we got convoke and could just one shot in PVP was close to a 20
in PVP
Listen, gotta take the W where it happens
Where are they happening these days
when open world pvp scaling was busted and a naked level 52 boomkin could 1 shot a geared level 60
isnt it still like that
dunno i havent been in warmode in many moons
I did leveling timewalking a few months ago and my bis geared previous tier warlock did 1/50th the damage of some random level 19 warlock in white/green gear
I assume that janky ass scaling probably carries over in open world pvp
Probably skrill
soooo we really do be playing EC in Single target now? 🫠
As it stands yes
But only with the new tier set? or in general?
New tier set
U got buffed 8% so bigger, and just don't take new tier 🙂
That would be something
easy 🙂
I wouldn't put it past them
how exactly are you rolling from 1 to 20 with 1 side?
What do you guys think would be a good buff that’s totally going to come today? Aura buff? Certain abilities?
Besides revert of hero tier nerf lol
5% wrath buff
5% wrath buff call it good
Holy
ironic though that i could leave... and also play another spec/class
exactlyt
^
hehe
That would make this server very quiet
factual
won't it be crummy if some unprecedented buffs do come and then moonkins look like fake doomers (again?)
that would just be confirmation that we're not dooming
but yeah, we'll get hate either way
That's not how THEY will see it though
whens the 30% aura buff dropping
Soon
200% increase to wrath 50% increase to dream burst dam
hell yea i want 200% wrath
i would do that
LMAO
fuck starfire
that means i can ignore eclipse in keeper
True
back to season 1 dflight
Stellar flare as filler inc
with this tierset you want more damage on generators
True
500% wraths
one day the devs themselves will understand what spender generator gameplay means
that's horrible
Instead of fucking 4
speak for yourself dutchman
I am
it's horrible
you'll just have to generate even more asp
perma casting
you'd also need to reduce starsurge asp cost
cause overcappings
it's terrible ravec
and you know it
Eclipses reworked
Casting wrath twice puts you in eclipse for 10 seconds
Being in eclipse lets you freecast SF and SS
in incarn in m+ build with lunar calling, single target boss fight; am i building with sf or wrath
has anyone done kyveza ?? as boomy yet
Tettles has
ye like a year ago
hmm, i got nothing else to do this week
maybe i slam my head against her and see how far i get
or I can wait for the final day of the season
did tettles kill it?
No but he did almost kill himself
lol
ya there is a video
maybe world first moonkin completion? idk, lots of gamers out there. this boss will make you remember ky'veza prog ptsd, info on setup below
686.3ilvl, using gallywix tank trinket + DISC belt set to "Energy Shield" (both are very important, but are able to be substituted with other shielding effects you may have available)
gear: https://i.imgur...
people fiending for content
Its a video of @ripe slate great music btw
ty gonna try this out
Show yours?
The thme
the time
not achiev
typical
also does it have the same hp for every dps
or is it scaled
same hp pretty sure
then time is even more irrelevant
correct i was just memeing
9min is actually more impressive because you have more mechanics to do
there's a channel designed for that question
3.3

wow you really have to be looking directly at the clones
ya
Preheat made a line WA that looks helpful
was probably the number one thing that killed me the most
how many attempts did it take yall?
like 60+ lmao
Usually undermine or fungal. U can look at the uhh affix
probably an over exaggeration was proably around 40 i wasn't keeping track
Best first craft ?















