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hmm ok
I see alleria now, and killing a mob gave me quest progress, but I'm not on any quests

it is not
still best to run keeper in raid vs elune till tier sets?
just looked at logs everyone had keepers still; was jw
yea nothing changed with patch except u got an 8% inc
sick ty
avoidance is about as useful as renewal
Coming back after 2 months off for new patch, other than the pin saying we play EC always now, anything else really change?
not yet, until we get buffed tomrrow (surely)

How bad are we lol? Last i played we were low/mid in raid and top in keys
bottom of the meter
oof
Bottom raid, good m+
we got one 🙂 i posted it in wrong channel smh
with a socket too. so lucky
not enough haste for starfire unlucky
G cares
starfire enjoyer
How different is the rotation now compared to S2? I havent looked at any resources or anything yet I havent had time
Or is it just the same
well in raid ull be playing ec and not keeper so kinda diff
m+ is same
Ah sweet ty
@eager raft
resetting explosive shots every 4 globals
how can we buy the dev
to work on boomy instead
just buy the dev
just need this for starfall and then we will be good
yo
I copied the build from wowhead and it took away incarnation for convoke the spirits, how much of a dps loss is it to continue to use incarnation? I kinda dont like convoke so regardless of the answer im swapping back to incarnation, im just curious on the numbers
i love haste coded gas
for what m+ or raid
M+ sorry
kotg?
EC
u dont play convoke with EC
I dunno I just copied it from icyveins coz I am too lazy to read the compendium and make my own decisions lol
Happy to hear it atleast, fk convoke
gas is goated
gas is literally the goat
"I am too lazy to read the compendium" - As far as I can tell dreamgrove doesn't have an export talents button, icyveins was literally just faster
it has an export
It makes you choose your own last 7 talents, thats too much thinking for me, I want someone else to play the game for me
It does??
guess we gotta make the font bigger @jolly delta
man doesn't have eyes either apparently
🤥
its not me
Oh I see I didn't realise that was a drop down menu
bruh
Shit my bad for making a mistake guys, I apologise for being human

for talents
The talent explanations
Nope, bro did NOT see this
@lucid olive thoughts


I clicked on "Mythic+" on the left hand side and the explanations were 70% of my screen lol
So they caught my eye and thats what I read

Appreciate the help gang
funny sims funny
dude its so fun
why is ur number so low
Holy shit balance ST in EC feels so good
alright another blocked ec enjoyer
lol
9th to the list
It feels like I do double the damage I did before the patch dropped, feels amazing
The Balance Druid Compendium will be updated for Season 3 the day before Manaforge: Omega releases as there is still a chance of Blizzard pushing hotfixes that can change stuff. This makes me cry
Some still believe in Santa

i will not be mean
LOCKEN
nah go on i wanna hear it
TOMORROW IS OUR DAY
insane
8% =/= 50% so if u are feeling that u were playing wrong
Was it even possible to play elunes chosen wrong last season :P
Well i was top dps in m0 = we are blasting
Im also doing the same rotation I did 2 days ago
we are blasting cuz we got a 8% aura buff, after people get their sets
Maybe its because of where I am, I am just in the open world
we are going downhill
Yes if u cast wrath inside of incarn
some rares on the new zone either have some kind of amp or a weird interaction
and u end up doing more dmg than u actually do
only have seen that issues with the big ones u need to kill some mobs before they spawn
apparently it was
I finished the 2 minute fight on 5.6mil dps in the M+ build so it definitely just gotta be that open world bug for sure
you do more damage phase walking
Ah damn I wasnt phase walked but now i wish I was just to see what it ends up like on the meters lol
ye
I'm looking forward to everyone telling me my class is fine in raid next week before I get my tier
for mm razor fragments and master marksman go bonkers
is there any renown farm ploy?
theyll see u blasting for sure
Is Twin Moons behaving a tad odd?
First cast in a delve is only hitting 1 target (so out of combat) but subsequent is hitting 2
well yea theyre out of combat so it only hits 1
lol
Isn't it enemy targets tho?
in combat targets sure
yes
I'm not sure it's ever worked the way you're expecting it to
dmf enjoyer
Reported
im 1400 and have druid wqs to do :/
ggs
u got me
i accidentally did reset a wq yesterday once
😔 banned
unlucky now that you play a good class you have something to lose when banned
bug abuser
@ blizzard get him
nope
i just found another 112 more rep 
actually i didnt even notice the reset cuz i did the delve
and right after i left the delve the wq popped again
so i just thought i never finished it

no idea dont think so
likely story from a criminal
still a boomy enjoyer, if they do tuning this week it will decide what i main for prog
I have no faith they are gonna tune us till after the race. They aren't smart enough to figure it out with out wcl data
Tomorrow for sure
I'm from the future, not druid
Can't wait to see how they once again change the eclipse system for the millionth time
when did eclipse last change
not a million times
current system was laid down shadowlands
i woudln't expect it to chagne until after this trilogy or w/e
jesus

The single target and multi target talents on icy veins are identical but the ones on wowhead aren't which should I listen to?
u dont have new tier so u shouldnt change talents
I do
better than tww
I didn't play boomy last tier, and I'm not super fussed if my talents won't be optimal till I get tier, just learning the correct playstyle and building reps is my goal.
guys one of the healers is threatening to go resto how do i break this to our boomkin x
The Visions weapon is so funny to look at
a healer is..healing? HOLY JEBUS
no i mean it gives our raid a druid buff outside of boomkin
you know chicken isnt a healer right?
you know chicken isnt a dps at the moment right
True
just close your eyes
uninstall the addons
like blizzard wants
we are all damage dealers here
this is the most accurate depiction of boomkin with other dps at the moment (you're the tellytubby)
rather be the sun in this image
Someone that liked Shadowlands also hates Power Rangers and Teletubbies
It does add up
you cannot rage bait me
nobody liked shadowlands
sepulcher of the first ones
not soul of the forest omega
halondrus.. anduin.. rygelon.. jailer...
all in the same raid bro
nothing but bangers
except the patch
patch was basically fine
even the outdoor zone was a vibe
vs the other two dogshit patches
pogging out mates
if only this was out during the actual nerubar tier maybe people wouldve gotten insane at dodging nexus daggers
10mins of pure dodging
On boomkin or you do it in guardian?
lol
Chat gpt says it's been changed like at least 5 times and I remember it being iterated on during betas. I'm too old 🙁
I guess I have just been in and out of moonkin so much it feels different every time I play it
Don’t you dare do this to miz
Timbo has had a few grumpy moments in his time
in bfd??
Usually a wholesome enough fella
LMAO
chingers stream
Wasn’t I raiding with you in bfd Tim I think I was
no flame just asking
if you're referring to this
there is a STORY BEHIND IT
it does NOT TELL THE FULL STORY

Free my boy paper
also isn't it called bod ive never heard it called bfd
bfd blackfathom deeps man that shit is LOCKED IN
went to the outback
in here
cautionary tale of not taking ket
what is balance state on m+ and raid guys
meta
thats not enough
Thanks for the feedback. I do agree that there are definitely some improvements that could (will) be done on the UX front
🐐
😐
What the
ele op rn?
You must've taken great offence that the cause of his confusion were the explanations and those graphics are gone next week 
Sims like 3.7 mil
sheesh
Nah you're chill I think im probably one of the very few who have made this mistake
Probably not
I dunno maybe, everyones probably just to scared to mention it with how quick people are to bite their heads off in here 😂
More likely
The talent explanation graphics are being removed on the update and replaced with something like this. The talents in the picture are just an example and not actual EC M+ talents, but the idea is to make these options for every page, and then also have the "copy loadout" below. But I agree it could probably be made clearer somehow that it's a drop down
Persisant haters
Im not sure, maybe it could start open rather than start closed when the page is opened? That's all I got really
Gonna put (THIS IS A DROPDOWN) in the name of the talent page 
The talent explanations start open and cant be closed surely its not more busy than that
I'm probably also gonna make a .txt file for all the pages in there as a Talent Loadout Ex export
Thankyou, now I can use 1 brain cell when viewing the compendium
The true aim
Yeah those are pictures, they were only meant as visual aid to explain each individual talent and supplemented by the drop down menus below it that explained each talent
I thought it was very obviously a dropdown, do dropdowns usually look different
video proof? people exploited this.
its on yt mate, but what dak said, it was a warrior exploit lol

Same thats really obv its a dropdown imo, thats kinda stabdard dropdowns in webdev
proof tho?
Well this is what i said earlier, its not that its not obvious that its a drop down, its that I just simply didnt see it when I first looked at the page
All I saw after clicking on the talents, was the image of the talents, so thats what i looked at first I didn't read before it
Pretty much when I clicked on "Mythic+" trying to find talents, the first thing that caught my eye was the picture of the talents that takes up half the screen so thats where my attention was immediately. I just didn't notice the drop downs above it thats all
video proof? people exploited this.
exploit proof? people videod this.

proof proof? proof proofed proof.
people video? exploit proved this.
what's a good delve to farm this week
Fungal folly
im a kriegval's rest enjoyer myself
The mobs take damage from the mines on the ground so can just kite them thru
The Undermine one is pretty quick too
should I level to 8 and do 8x8 just solo or better to find a group to farm
Wait do i have to level delves from 2 again....
from 3 or 4
But why 

from 4 ye
no idea but it's annoying af
I lvld it up to 8 and logged out
"Ill do the actual 8's another day"
I need to get up and do cloak quest

Thats like

1.5h of questing more than id like
depends on your gear. 8s are easy enough as boomy. Can do up to 11 on bear. Kinda rough as boomy but doable, just slow
yeah I aint farming that shit
get some dmf hats
18 renown
I'll go on bear anyway
I dont even have 18 renown on any faction 
there is not a degen infinite farm like seeds on df s3
so should be fine
or 16
Seeds was better
Much prefer those farms than this
seeds was indeed better
Whats this
what is the 'farm' this time?
no farm
phase diving?
just kill rares
Killing rares and doing side quests and shit
miss me with that
Fuck no
Seed farm and Darkfuse rep farm are bis
any agreers
Tbh i didnt mind zm that much
I don't remember zm grind
Definitely not as bad as maw and korthia
I remember doing it but not what I did
you can also get contract and do all the old world quests for 16 rep per 🙂
It was just like world quests and idk
i farmed that sht so bad to get the recipe to do the unique equip items
holy i made gold that week
proud to be a glorp

Time to log in
Don't do it
log in iqni
But i have to...
and realize that you should play fdk
also are u sure u were getting rep on ur alt? must have been quests u didnt do on ur main
NO!!!!
im not getting rep on already done wqs
you get contract rep
What if i play farole again..
nope
for only the new wqs
I got it from every wq
from the new zone or
yes
im talking about the other zones
Did you guys do the sidequest with the backstory for the new DH spec
other zones are 1 time
oh so les just lied to me
yes

I have a feeling it will be some weird stuff like voidelf is the only race that can be the new spec
based on only the questline
since it's some "void elf does ritual to empower the dh with the void energy"
Im down for that
prepping voidelf as we speak
thought u were doing a dk
every dh has a mandatory race change token during prog
or maybe it will be new hunter class, with a void elf as a pet that buffs you mid combat 💀

and they can use bows as well
but new spec has more chances in being ultra op..
another dark ranger rework
but with void now
cooking a bit too much here arent we

Void druid
locked in
I leveled mine from 70-80 on monday
@scarlet tapir
he taught me how to hold my raid by the balls
I dunno what twist can tell you, but he's unironically good at devoker
hes also offline bro
yw
is cyrces just a case of get rid now
Guys is m0 not gonna reset?
unless u have nothing else and are giga low ilvl
it is, next week
I already replaced Cyrce's with a 684 ring last season, and it was just fairly heavily nerfed going into this season
Damn so what do we do this week
8x tier 8 delves, 8x m0 (yes 2 of them will be without loot), grind rep if you want
Damn useless week
always is
There is a small chance we can get tier from vault this week though since they've changed how it works
Or well next week
what do ST EC talents look like?
Do you mean Elune's Chosen? Chosen of Elune is Incarnation
yo im here what u need
found already ur too slow sorry
i was eeping
should go back to eep and not wake up
Okay guys, I wasnt able to get online for 10 days now. Quick recap, how cooked are we?
same as before 10 days
my guilds fdk xD
excellent, thank you
My alt arcane mage sims 500k more than my boomie 4 ilvl diff
@lofty depot no way your shitty meme is gaining traction..
It was superior
are we really going to be playing incarnation instead of convoke for single target?

LOCK IN
so true
That is such a triggering emote
its unreal
cope
its a "we dont want you to play balance" type situation
as usual the buffs will be undocumented
so we gotta wait for gastank
to let us know
100% buff to goldrinn
Hey curious. Would dropping my tier set for better ilvl be better assuming the tier set pieces are lfr tracked ?
I think Itd be just healthy to buff Starsurge
To make it so EC profile would actually want to press the specs main spender
horrific visions veteran staff is a thing, right? for me 0,9% upgrade compared to mythic BiS
Do we really not want to press surge?
yes
u should do that if u have the willpower
You do press it
yea just depends on the amount of ilvl u drop it for
For Starlord and not to overcap?
Pretty much
Or do we disregard the overcapping for more starfires
Would go from 645 tier pieces to 665 plus upgrades on most of those until I do m0
overcap bad

i dont think anyone has checked that specific scenario
u would have to check it yourself sadly
if u want me to give u a number ill say 30ilvls
to make ur day easier
EC is only a thing in singletarget with the new set, right? also still keeper for lower m+?
Ok that's good, ty
nope keeper dead dead
just play ec everywhere
even with old set? crazy
Yeah would need to be around 690 ish to get a net gain unfortunately. Guess Druid can stay bank till we have full charges open
U just surge to not cap, we don’t even play starlord with ec build
The tier set requires u to not be capped on ap or it won’t work
but only when you have set
If we could cap we wouldn’t even surge once pretty sure
i have faith
completely over

need to kill bosses
Oh my lord
Did you mean to say starlord, or did you mean Rattle the Stars?
rattle mb
I don't see why we wouldn't run starlord, it's just haste for faster starfires

more ap = bad
no rattle and no natures balance
very curious design choices i have to say
you can play rattle over denizens for a minor loss
or you can play rattle and take 1/2 boat if you want too
it's my fault for learning to read actually
thats just
cursed
wtf
me when my builder spender spec hates resource generation

elunes vs. kotg for m+, whats the deal in 11.2?
but its better to take than Cosmos (unless you also take Hail of Stars)
EC better for all content when you have new tier
howcome?
keeper tier set is dogshit
EC tier is also what, like 25% inc?
is there a heavy movement version for EC
sim that is
bit sceptical on the "wants* less ASP"
not gonna catch me writing apl to simulate movement
well, yeah
play the game if you can't handle movement then start drip feeding in movement global talents
thats how i'll do it i guess
"oh this fight really bad" -> take rattle
doesn't have jackshit to do with what you can or cannot handle
"oh this fight still bad" -> take cosmos
it's what is functionally better
functionally better is learning the fights and when you have rooms to move
its not like EC is super immobile anyway
utilize WoE well
got bunch of instant globals to spend
Right
but can they atleast make questing work
if im forced to do it

i had to abandon and redo 3 quests already cause they just softlock and wont progress
vba

this world boss is a steaming pile of dogshit aswell wtf
do the mechanics man.....
go into the phase and you get 0 lag cause nobody else is gonna be in there
when world was lagging i went to world boss and tagged at 5% done
Is the "consensus" that we shouldnt craft a weapon due to there being 1 from the early bosses?
I think the wowhead guide mentioned crafting a 2h staff untill you get the mythic dagger, then replace with crafted OH
Bro does a 1 shot aoe if u dont use a defensive and flies around after 10%
Great design
i got a ring
You don't even get a wue for each character
haste mastry
If it's like the undermine one
Stand on the thing when he flies away and press extra action button to follow him into phase..
its just hard to see cause theres 39 other people in your group with a bunch of dogshit spell effects
negative fps/adds spawning everywher
and a 10min fight
atleast it gave me some boots
Fr
Also why tf can't I target the adds that spawn
Or I can target them just can't cast anything on them
Oh wtf
i was in the phase and had 0 lag cause i was the only one in there 
gamz carrying worldbosses on his own
You’re doing theater troupe I’m assuming? Or similar old weekly cheesy content?
theater troupe + arathi flames
I think they made it so the world soul quest and kareshi weeklies are the only ones that give veteran now
feels kinda wasted when ill get champs or heroes next week
unless the crests i paid will be free to reuse if its lower than 691
since i think champs are 680ish?
Well yea
do you have your half spark?
cause i got that from weekly worldsoul
It's just free power for next week
U lose some weathered crests doing it but those don't matter
gotta do world events this week to get coffer keys for next week no?
Yep
nah best-in-slots is so good, it will probably transcend through midnight too
just sim
racist
lol
why would it be called best in slots if it wasn't... blizzard would not lie to us
I seen that
Give me an auggie rune stack and I'll tell u
Bruh, it sent again

I cba
I put on a 691 weapon immediately
Bye bye bis
Dogshit weapon
Did not get lucky with gear tho. Only 687 ilvl 🙁
Is boomer a pog champion in keys this season
I hope ppl wont insta ignore me on m0 runs with just 676 ilvl
just gaslight your healer to not play resto
Eryone running around at 688
and you can be the mark bringer ez
200IQ move, tell them the fix is coming
You should be fine
Run with guild
i started 2 groups on my mage at 650
Thats what i did
I actually did 9 m0s yesterday
I think my m+ healer is a druid this season 
Did you know if you dont reset arakara the first and last boss will respawn by themselves and trick you into thinking you reset it
well, take my simc original addon input and scrape your simc from warcraftlogs and then mingle them together 😄
if u care
Its too much work
ye
well just remember your lasted sim link every time you update it

My sim shows haste pure fiber to be better ove mastery even in kotg
Do my sim for me bigdog thanks
my mage is wearing that 
No 
I have to trick people into inviting my shaman into m0s
Valid
I tried an 8 delve on it and it didn’t go very well
how much of a rat is it to fail delves
Its like 640
I did fungal at 650
8 delves are rough in s2 gear
tier 8 was painful on 640 last patch..
but just craft some shit
Hard content
real
No bear form
Imagine doing any delves past sidesteeet sluice on delves spam week
640 is season 1 gear
Lmao true
use weathered crests to craft some slots
What ilvl is that
Ain’t no way
can get a lot if you havent used rep rewards too
only works once a season per character though
I need to do some visions too
Who needs gear when u can do 6 m0s and get 2 items when the rat rerollers gets 12
man, I should've done the liquid gear runs
rolling mage for keys again?
well i am the rat reroller
honestly thank god rdru is back
it did get eggsac tho 
Lol my mage got gear, is zooted. My druid is in shambles
no clue if its good though 
well considering it replaced a 620 delve trinket I think that's a win
Huge
a win is a win
3% at least
is the phase diving part of the main quest line?
was 675 I knew it
Uhh, does it have the funny icon for "campaign" or
mm i have 3 weathered crests
the two purple quests at the end give you a cloak upgrade to 701
Rae, that's a blue quest
get cloak stuff from delves too
Mean not campaign
wasn't sure if i needed it to unlock the next campaign part
nah
theres literally
u wait 7 days
nah its only 3 chapters this week
ah so how do i get to r3 cape
a bar that says "waiting for reinforcements 6 days" after you finish the campaing chapter...
then 4th chapter when raid releases to lead up to the raid, and then 5th chapter as "this happens after dimensius dies"
Do delves
yea but what could that mean
so unclear
wait how do u even get it to 675 without a spark

weathered crest from vendor
the quest log says wait for reinforcements to continue the questline...
just upgrades shitter blue gear
way too confusing for a balance druid player
ur mum
theres been some bugs try relogging or going back to see if ur last quest properly finished.
I ended up with 11/12 kills on1 of the quest but it tried to get me to progress
shes a nice lady
had that a couple times but was still able to turn the quest in 😄
its just the questlog that gets stuck somehow
12€ per month btw
(i swear they only nuked kotg so we forget about control still being broken after almost a year)
so many quests are bugged
most annoying for me was the 3 scouts on that little island where you upgrade the wraps
i'd find the 2nd scout and it would immediately say quest complete, but I still had to go kill the 3rd scout
there are no bountiful delves right? just need to do 8xt8
right
correct
Hoot hoot?
most annoying to me was alleria dodging my rightclicks constantly
i love when the quest giver is an NPC that follows you
but she makes sure to stay far enough away to be out of range to turn in the quests
so you look like a dog chasing its tail whenever you try to complete a quest
noooo wayyyy
Will there be any buff to the Druid?
who knows
@blizzard @ion
chances are higher we get buffed than not getting buffed
hope that answers your question
That chance is under 20% but still higher than not

havent checked the bosses at all, are they even boombeast friendly?
Can u define a boombeast friendly boss
anything between stix and 1ab
there's one add heavy boss
Soul hunters boombeast friendly
so far
But its optional 🙂
if adds live long enough maybe nexus king
but I don't know, our spread cleave is mid these days
Will depend if bosses like soulbinder and araz's adds live long enough
Or go into the grinder and get nuked
Yea you need to finish a keystone for it to reset?
anyone else's extra action button bug out and stay on screen even after leaving phase dive?
btw if you wanna help you're welcome
half of the guides are archived
sorry i didnt answer

what else can I do
get fresh account and do it again
most likely is worth it, sim though and find out
Themits 7 ilvls, prob
Again, the crests u have now don't matter
weathered and carved crests aren't worth anything next week if you know you'll be doing 10s
send it and dont lose sleep over it
honestly, if you are mythic geared from last season
just sell your shit to liquid
this week means nothing
especially if you're playing boomy
damn right
I wish I knew liquid was buying m0 gear
I blasted my m0s like a dummy
could've made some decent coin
is it per run or per actual drop
per drop
and how much
ehh
15k for random other shit
and quick dungs prob 
yea anything above a 6 or so already gives heroic i think
What if some people have trouble blasting?
i mean, you can farm the item you want even in 2s
Maybe they want to be time efficient

Granted yea it largely doesn't matter. Plenty of my raiders work late and or 30 minutes til raid. So doing anything right now is better
With new tier ec
for what we play this ?
Can u try that again, (reading what I said)
I just wanna gears up my shaman to make start of season easier
Im 654 I cannot give away 681 gear
then dont
for what we play this?

They speak furry as their first to be fair
what is the ST EC build?
Beacuse the ST one I yanked from the wowhead guide isnt simming better than my keeper ST build
at least with the current gear on
So Im wondering if my EC build is wrong
okay find the issue
So it’s maybe double wrong
Well it wouldn't until u get new tier
the current best set with old tierset wins against the new (with new tier) best set
Why would it?
Nothing changed
The spec is exactly the same
I blame gamz for this
What an odd thing to say
If all bamkins play EC with no new tier we are defs getting buffed
Insane sandbag mission time

True 
8% increase come raid week
Just play your best 
the ultimate sandbag
The randoms will see boomkin on top and say "why r they crying"
I cant remember blizzards pattern from the past tiers. Are we locked until after the race ends or will anything get buffed before the raid goes live.
There’s no heroic week so who really knows
Nah lock in, we're getting buffed and locks are getting nerfed
Today forsureweeeeeeee
good chance there's stuff after this week

Nobody knows Blizzard does what they want
ok hear me out
guys buffs when
We definitely get tuning post this week and then 50/50 we get one next week
Today lock in
Feb 2026
My uncle works at blizzard and said hes looking into it
balance dev is a hater so everyone plays ec already to show every balance is having so much fun already and they can't have that so they go "we buff keeper now" and then everyone can be happy
Maybe they killed keeper because they’re removing eclipse and reworking bamkin 
hah very true, I was just under the assumption that nothing changes once the race starts other than bug fixes so unless it happens this week it wouldn't happen till the race ends.
but I dont know if they ever buff in the period before they have good data with keys and raid
Could happen first week after the first few days
eclipse becomes midnight in midnight and balance turns into a shadow dmg caster
Burnt
But yea after those initial days, if it hits Saturday ur not getting anything prob
Unless like some crazy stuff going on with a class
Wait just ask the oce people cuz theyre in the future
Are we buff
Boomkins who live in a xx:30 min time zone got buffed
Is that like a Canadian timezone or
India 
australia
Oh shit many












