#balance
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what fast kill time
theres people killing rik reverb before first intermission these days
u didnt even peep it bro
who are u confusing it with
none of my balance druids have lived a sprocket kill
its ok ur new
I’m very new
u have the pass
Hmm
Sprocket is a dogsht boss to reclear tbf
U get assigned to 3 set of mines when u get a good pull
Then no mines when ur rng is under the floor
does anything change about balance in 11.2 other than the tier set? like first week of raid before getting new tier, just use the same builds as last season?
yea man ur playing the m+ build
with ec
talents idk nobody cares enough
They didn’t do any changes to us just aura buff so ye u keep the same build till new set
But that is changing this next tuning post
Holy
20x and another 8% aura buff
xD
pretty sure bamkin is ultra low in the prio list
or

well it's comp dependant
isnt that the leader just putting you high on the list?
like it goes hunters->mages->everyone->us 2 boomies on ours

and we never get it unless 3 people die
Is this just copium
Maybe
ye the only one ive ever got was the set opposite coming out of firs intermission
it's what should happen
That would make us sim for like what
aka blizzard won't do it
5.6 or 5.7
o same as feral

Can’t have that
So should be fine
Balance needs to be at the bottom
you need like 15% to sim similar as ferals
my guild told me i can go feral this tier
If they revert the 4set a bit I don’t think u need that much
i think they trying to tell me something
hard to believe they will revert honestly
15x and 15% type shit
Perhaps
but prayge
Better pray we get someone else to look at the number and not who ever the fuck did the 6x sp
it was me sorry guys 
i just really like that picture of boomkins gettign kicked down stairs
After all this time....they're not uncapping it dawg

where would that get is tho in st?
0.1% uncapped

Idk gamz ran it prob
But its not 6.2
like where would we cap out naturally with 2% conversion
So send it
surely cant be that crazy
is that with 3% tho?
even with 2% pretty sure you can cap 25x at times
5% with 50x
U can
depending on boss
Hell ya
With the double ca tech pretty sure u can
they could've just done 1%, 3 stack, uncapped
would at least give us some funnel back and maybe interesting decisions
casts wrath
Yo guys I have this insane ASP generation tech
Wym 3 stack
3 surges
Uncapped with 15% aura sims at like 5.7m
Make it 5, so it's like the old days 🙂
Prob middle of 5.8 with better gear
WITH additional aura?
Yes
With the 2%?
or going from 8 to 15
oh my gawd
So 23% from live value
Well those sims I saw were with the 3% 
Id take anything over 5.4
The change from 3% to 2% was a good change to make
That's the needle they should push to reduce and increase power of the 4pc
Think all of us were completely fine with 5.5
Using the cap as the needle is word I can't say or I get timed out
And randoms are like "they wanted to be op and were bugging and sandbagging
"
You can't uncap lol
hahaha
Randoms who parrot maxx and barely get aotc
That's actually not a max parrot
that cant be hard though
Just sucks that on aoe only the splash dmg is the one scaling with more targets
The cap should just be an arbitrary number that you won't reach unless special circumstances to stop you from using old world scaling
Yo where do you put embelish going into the patch? I need to get something instead of cloak
btw, keeper is at like 4.8m right now?
Bracer, boots, shoulder, glove
Wonder when they will realize that the splash dmg never got nerfed
It's just the tooltip
Ye
moonkin has haste cap now??
Aura buff won't touch the cap
yea, thats why i mean it doesnt scale the set which is a decent part
boots will be raid drop eventually, so we going bracer+offpiece crafted for entire season?
Weapon maybe ?
you'll go belt eventually
I have 2 bracers 1 with vers 1 with asc
or offhand
Offhand + wrists is good too
I have weapon,.oh, shoulder gloves and won't run out of slots
Can’t they make it reset on entering a new instance or something
i figured they wont give me the boots anyway so you can craft there for a few weeks
If it comes to it
Is it really that hard to do
It doesn't reset if the dryad is still alive when you take the summon
what .. so its actually to not cheese some tp hit boss for 20% thing?
But it's also the question of world PvP and Rextroy shenanigans
Yes that is the purpose of a cap in an effect like this
i c
you can just make the dryad despawn on encounter start
There u go
but yea, surely its obvious that the set should be designed in a way that doesnt require a cap you can reach natty
What if I send the surges before encounter start
Dryad despawns when you enter raid
don't prepull you demon
I will be prepulling for 100m, taunt the boss
Stupid tanks cant hold aggro
there's also the chance the dev doesn't know about all the various flags like wipe on encounter starts, etc.
"chance"
Make bosses reflect damage for the first 0.5s of the encounter so if you try to pre pull cheese it you one shot yourself
If they ever thought the 50% hp cap was a good idea
I mean
They clearly don’t know

I think both dryads favour and the dryad has those flags
Same for enter instance
just give it some reasonable cap .. who cares
It was their first time dealing with degenerates, next time forsure
nah dryad just has login/log out
Gg
It had a reasonable cap
3.2m big fine
favor has login/swap spec/swap talent/raid or key start
Someone teach our dev
should be some number you dont ever reach in ST (maybe in big dmg amp) and that leaves some headroom for aoe/funnel
Well they should just make it not apply to amp
guys
if we need another 15% even without a cap, thats quite something
true
the spec has funnel or it doesn't
you are right
Hold on
raw dmg
you mean prio damage
4 vers
well also idk if the class dev made the set
hm?
my vers is pretty fantastic
not sure if sets fall under class devs or item devs or some mix
I think our tier set has gone through like 3 different devs at this point
And they got tired of getting bugs reported every week so they just nerfed it to be irrelevant
was curious about this the other day since boomie and resto dosnt share dev unless thats changed
Item dev was clearly the first person.... Then class dev for the sp change... The it was lock dev that saw us at 5.5m and said fuck u
i think they're supposed to be item dev stuff
but obviously there's a lot of crossover to the class dev
but that might've changed in recent years idk
prolly a bug, still says 1.5%
it's an "intended" bug
Motw
item dev just handing over set "this is your problem now"
"I thought of an idea"
the glorious days of bell
class team said 'this might be a problem' item dev said 'sucks to be you'
"wq is up guys"
All these class and item 'devs" already replaced with AI and one guy trying to keep the code working
Damn clankers
odds we get something until raid release?
anyone still a believer?
Thank you NA for beta testing 11.2 release
yea they gonna nerf us seeing as we be going in with old tier and 8% aura
no changes until RWF done , its for competitive integrity 🤡
Changes during rwf
We get something before raid release or we get nothing
20% chance they buff us remotely close to 5.5
i'll take 20
I actually believe
if its not ec anymore
80% to 5.5
10% chance on revert to cap to 15 maybe
5% on revert to 3%

EC gamers are ready
0% revert to 25
i set up my bars for ST yesterday
adn a weak aura to show how many times i stop cast my starfire with movement
imagine they remove cap and one of the guilds uses 5 moonkins to skip some mythic mechanic
although they prob dont even have 5 moonkins ready to raid nowadays
theres not even 5 moonkins in this discord
im psure some of the guys are gonna have a moonkin ready

Liquid has 5 moonkin players
even if the set was shot now, decent chance they buff it
And none main moonkin anymore
they always have atleast 2-3 people go the worst class for a alt
yea, just having it on the bench is fine tho, no?
if it gets to a decent sim number the set is actually pretty good for dmg amp bosses etc
or destroying some add (no idea if thats relevant on dimensius, maybe intermission on nexus prince)
I have like 5% belief they will buff us before raid
It could be
zero care on their side
its crazy how big of a hit that 3 to 2% was
Was a good hit
That's a 33% nerf what u mean
even if they wouldnt have touched the cap
well, not necessarily if you were able to reach cap previously
- 2p buffs
3% to 2% is the only change they should've made to the 4pc to do what they wanted to
2p doesn't add to cap
classic healer kekkers
U do more damage than him now, than he will at 723. Settle.down
2p starfall adds to cap
so real twin
My fault
its' still shit damage tho so
hoyl shit I'm stupid af, I forgot to use my last dinars 
2% of 300k?
doesn't really amtter
rip
10% is 30k. So 6k. Massive
question, if the new 4pc is so bad for kotg, what ilvl do we switch to the new set and swap to EC?
hm who wants some cope
For arguments sake go
they didn't bake in any hotfixes to the live build. so you can cope they forget to move the set nerf hotfix
When u get 2p at 684 iirc
alright cool
isn't ec 2pc by itself better than s2 4pc
"sends a blue post, guys we were just trolling"
revert eminent??
Imminent
Emnthy
Eminemity
immenint?
damn I'm actually kinda annoyed I didn't buy mythic jug
I got you homie
did you ask tettles to update #resources yet
No
It got nerfed buddy
Letting the channel die
only correct what and when you want to
So I can keep complaining about it
jug got nerfed?
Hoc and kezan too
what the
Ik crazy
well, I guess that makes me feel better about not using my dinars lmao
I was crazy once
Dang, what happened?
The rats
@meager storm?
rats where?
@eager raft no I meant this one
What happened
Arctic said you make him crazy

I don't talk to Dak enough for him to make me crazy
Like Gnarls Barkley
What would make me crazy is watching gamz lose very winnable league games
Gamz looks like a gnar main
And we won
That's a little on the nose but not accurate
He's a RTO
Gnar, Aatrox and Renekton are my highest mastery
Renekton top only
I got filled mid last game yesterday and Renekton banned so I locked Lissandra
Aatrox player 
That’s a crazy guess if you didn’t know already
I would’ve guessed yuumi
Good morning everyone, hope everyone is doing well. The dreamgrove.gg is not updated yet by chance?
Not til we get buffs
No, I'll update it the day before season starts
Bro season starts in 7 hours lock in
Season but not patch? that's wild
There’s delves to be done and I need my build????
What's coming with patch that needs to be in compendium
Nothing
Sure I can go in and delete season 2 shit but that's about it
Delve build
M0 build
U don't have new tier so what changes
So much to know
A big title saying
a tleast update it so i doesnt show the old ptr info
Read how bad we are and cry so hard for the horrible state of our boomies
U can do that without an update
Send a pull request with some changes and I'll push it
No, I want do it while I'm reading my favorite web page of druids ❤️
At least do free labour to remove the old free labour thanks
Let's go read Naguura then.
WAIT WHAT?
OKNOOOOOOOOOO
You say free labour but I got buymeacoffee cash
She's on vacation

Yea phased blessed him
Since Shadowland💤 you say lmao
Uuh it was pzl
"This tier set is very strong" triggers me so yeah if that could be removed that would be great 
Send a pull request with some changes and I'll push it
what do we even pay you for..
The vibes
Is there a kofi link bc I'll support the homies
Read About section on Dreamgrove
We are indeed not vibin
Word tyty
I am
No way…
yooo new blue post
Log on na m0s
Jk, that's not happening for 6 hours
If echo gets third surely they boom right?
they wont bro grow up
Lose a whole expac and drop second to method, no way the egos on that team accept that
and beaten for an ex guildie
I wonder if rwf teams make enough money
Like they do care about winning but likely make more money as their own org so don't "care"
There was some rumours that echo had some VC or Saudi money or something come in behind them but idk how legit that is
Is the random starsurge from 2set, buffed from Rattle the stars?
Also, would be cool to see another NA get it... Or that Russians again
I think max has said liquid pays enough to live on but no one is getting rich doing it
Aren’t Roger and scripe dads
Prob after enough loses they go boom
And just stop doing it
Scripe doesn't raid tho
Roger gonna complete the wow dad lifestyle and go back to his collections
Roger doesnt either no? Just saying like it’s time consuming
I can't remember, I don't think so
Prob better off staying at home with the kids
Think that makes it worse tbh. 21sting for the losing team has to be way worse
Also, rattle isn't part of the bear ST build 🙂
Getting paid to tell people they're playing bad, that's a w
21st better then
Nah not when you're someone that competitive
You can bet your ass scripe has been frustrated as hell with someone playing bad and thinking he could do better if he was playing
At least once or twice a race
so, boomy gonna get buffed at somepoint right? should be ok to keep playing - they won't leave it behind aug all season right?
Maybe maybe not no way to know but probably?
right after your guild goes on break until next expansion
Keeper of the grove 600% nerf on the 4p is wild lol
lol
Well it wasn't 600% but nonetheless
almost
6x wasnt it?
huh
how do you nerf somethign more than 100%
because they said it will do 6x less dmg
the change doesnt amount to a 600% nerf
yes I know overall it doesnt
Went from 25x to 6x
but the change itself
That's not how numbers work tho
4.8M dmg in sims is still wild
Yea should times that by 600%
yezzir
so that's like an 83% nerf right?
noone expected that iteration to go live
that's been the trend though, last 3 xpacs
Maybe jango is the people those randoms talk about when saying "they want to be op and are bugging and sandbagging"
They don't listen to dm's u think they look at chat, funny
Wrong spawn is tough
Bugs and unintended stuff, they just over nerfed us after fixing those issues

Am i though?
fr*nch
en francais
Those people spent their country into disaster so you didn't have to be British show some respect
Im actually not from the EU but nice try! XD
They also surrendered to Germany so I didn't become german
a little more west
Canada French is worse tragic
last time i checked germany lost 2 wars
Stars and bars baby
a little more west kiddo
we are not that good at wars ok
J'accord
this is the most american take of all
More west of Canada is russia
Don't know if this is coming from the French or the Germans but it works both ways
😔
Hey! he got it, finally lol
Canada is a big country 😉
You’re right, France does always lose wars to England. Except: The Norman invasion 1066. The Anglo-French War 1213-1214. Anglo-French War 1294-1303. War of Saint-Sardos 1324. Hundred Years’ War 1337-1453. War of the league of Cambrai 1512-1514. Italian War of 1542-46. The Rough Wooing 1543-1550. Italian War of 1551-59. English expedition to France 1562-1563. The Anglo-French War 1627-1629. Second Anglo-Dutch War 1665-1667. The Nine Years’ War 1688-1697. The American Revolutionary War. War of the French Revolution 1793-1802. Anglo-Spanish War 1796-1808. War of the First Coalition. War of the Second Coalition. War of the Third Coalition. War of the Fourth Coalition. And the War of the Fifth Coalition.
But aside from all those England always beats France.
Russians always so hostile
there have been a lot of coalitions apparently
Play dota 2
copypastas about France being at war is just peak content tbf
No way you put the french revolution in there
I will pay u 10k if u find a single happy and friendly Russian on dota
They did win that
W french
SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A CHANCE?!
non zero probability
I mean if we're including the middle ages there's half a hundred wars on both sides innit
Close to 0
dont hate the messenger
Like 200 years of throwing peasants into a meat grinder so the aristocrats can swing their dicks around at their court parties
king arthur of camelot never lost to the french
Most of them probably got sent to Ukraine
British
man I see a discord noti, get excited, open app, see it's dreamgrove, assume resto, then see it's balance, fucking finally someone is asking me for moonkin advice, no actually you're just bald
France would windmill dunk Quebec
peak jb
That's crazy
Yea Canada is pretty fucked atm so I don't doubt that tbh
Hate JB, he got us nerfed
gotta hatewatch his stream now
Came into balance started yapping. 2 hours later we were dead
Isn't he resto?
time to get paid 20k for an m0
I’m still in shock someone at Blizzard looked at the tier set, nerfed it and was satisfied.
Quebec is generally unproductive and propped up by the west, imagine trying to pivot the Quebecois boomers into a wartime economy. Good luck m8
It was the most obvious outcome tbh
Yws
Alberta's oil is the only thing saving us right now LOL
First time?
Why fix bug and then test for tuning when you can guess and miss
Quebecois is a word
Nope that’s why I geared up my dk and warlock 
Frost mage making a comback too it would seem
Although dk is going to get some tender loving tuning soon. I feel it
Till fire and arcane just do better
Right
Frost gang
Fire is gonna get a tuning pass and become S tier again
I wish man, they love Locks too much over at headquarters 🙁
It's already arcane tier
And maybe after a tier of all 3 mages in S tier they'll revisit the class
But I won't be playingit
Arcane has been good since Nerubar lol
I doubt they do much to warlocks. I don’t buy into the whole “Blizzard faves” narrative but dks will get nerfed to Narnia before they touch locks
Objectively not true
0 chance
Unholy looking sexayyyyy
Anyone who thinks warlock is a blizz favourite class has never played aff lol
Fire was better this tier til it got nerfed and arcane got buffed
Shit is hard stuck in 2008
Aff is 1/3
So like it doesn't matter
Destro and Demo still super good
Demo has some warts too tbh the only lock spec that feels really good is destro
All 3 specs of lock simming in the top 10 rn 
But demo warts are minor and the spec pretty strong so people overlook
Not even the right sims
I still remember demo/destro gigachad season in s3/4 of SL
it should be, they included the boomy 4p nerf
this is old
then post the new one
Great. Then. Post. It.
this is current sheet, which is also out of date, cause it's always out of date
it is the current sheet
It’s even lower
which is outdated
bro out here looking at sheets and shit
But how would I know what’s good oi
Wow I didnt know enchance sham got that much of the boot
current ptr* obv

purple = win
isnt it the only mustard ?
Dijon brand
Brother you're french you people don't even have French's
like us mustard is just gloryfied mayonaise

you probably never had real mustard then
Maille brand is solid if you like dijon
This is REAL american mustard
tf is this cursed shit
Yeah Maille is the best dijon that's a fact
♥️
looking like kitchen cleaning fluid
you wouldn't get it
multipurpose product and they still complain
this the one I buy
its not even expensive
very goated
its like 10 buckaroonies per kg
gross mustard and mayo suck
ravec do be mustard
?????????
ok i'll give it to you, maille is actually good mustard
Let me guess u hate pickles on sandwiches as well
Who is this guy
Brother you changed your pfp AND name
That shit is not done
hm
He probably hates bread on his sandwiches
probably hates salt too
smh


fucking love that
lol this guy, yum dinnertime
go to your local american store
buy French's
you'll see
I had the worst social anxiety nightmare with a jar of that a few weeks ago..
this isnt even a thing
It's peak sandwich mustard
local american store
Yall dont have american stores?
ofc not
What kind of shit country doesn't have an American store
no 😭
i mean i have maccas
Where do you buy your MAGA hats?
technically an american store
We have some wannabe American 1960 themed diners
i make my own
does that count?
i mean theres the candy stores
I mean your local Kaufland or Auchan probably has an American isle
Their burgers always suck
scam fronts
for sure they have French's there
From Charlie Kirk
unironically based
reading you writing about auchan made my day
is that the guy that went fucking OFF in the senate?
it's the guy debating with teenagers
so he can win
Even better
Every right wing political influencer primarily debates children
Makes for more views
"OH LOL THAT 14 YEAR OLD GOT OWNED"
Dunked on
erm
greta isnt 14
“Entitled lib loses her mind” are my personal fav clickbait titles

America is a fucking puppet show
We got some of that on both sides lately
Mehdi and his ring of teenage Nazis was every bit as wild and ridiculous as Charlie and his teenage socialists
I can't stand that mehdi guy
mehdi val ?
the guy in armor ?
Why so you can also get 3 bandaid patches in a row?
Mehdi is clearly a very smart guy but he strawmans and shouts over people like crazy
I get that it's effective but it's pretty cringe
unlikely
I want to see those 2 guys debate with uni students about the boomy nerfs, if they were deserved
this
See this would get a Patreon sub outta me
Gamz versus 10 max stream chatters let's go
HOLY
strawman is sadly the norm in debating
insane video idea
it is
I'm getting so sick of it, starting to wonder if it's all on purpose (I hope so) or if people are genuinely this stupid and incapable of listening
It is on purpose
I can respect the play for the love of the game
Because audiences are also too fucking stupid to see through it
Attention economy and 'winning' being more important than nuance
It's not even nuance, it's just actual productive conversation lmao
There's so little of it
If two people have a deep and interesting discussion on a topic and you come away with "both sides make some good points but there's no clear right answer" you get 200 views
I'll sit there and watch the full 2 hours of it though
If Mehdi windmill dunks on some teenage Nazi strawmen he gets 200 million views
That's like Destiny's old content
Attention economy caters to lowest common denominator
Which means content gets shorter form and stupider over time
Yeah it's like Carlin said. The average person is stupid and that means half of them are even dumber than that.
I'm genuinely starting to turn towards anti democracy since most people just should not be voting 
The wild part is rates of impostor syndrome
Smart people constantly have impostor syndrome and doubt their own intelligence and the lower bands just ... Dont
so that means if I think i'm dumb... oh shit, i'm a genius
wait, but does that make me dumb again
you just went full circle
Feed forward circle of stupidity 
Hey guys whats the tldr on boomie today xdd
I can't answer this question because being able to break this down would mean that I'm very intelligent which means I'm probably stupid
pins
today? well, the weather was okay
Pretty bad, still perfectly playable
bit cold
Still over
probably leaning towards 6.5
Windy with a chance of meatballs or no?
Nvm that's tomorrow
always..
locken
just watch ID's pov
ye
Who dat
a guild
oh
instant dollars
ok I can't tell if this is a bit
or melee mechanics
Where do I go
ah
Im serious lol
they do all mythic testing and usually have the more organized tactics
unless you like reading a lot
QE live has some boss guides
it was funny in amirdrassil
all the bosses were easy they got to larry killed it kinda quick and then got to smoldy think it was them that tweet out like "can a real guild do the strat plz" or something like that

good times
dunno what rank they are, but they are definitely of the ones closer to RWF
5

That's a banger
Would've been legendary if they ended up killing it before the rwf guilds after that
Hard boss
lmao
Won't lie was praying for mebe a few notes when I woke up haha
The fuck is mebe
It wouldn't be the first time they slipped in a few changes on patch day
But given how close to patch day their last fiddling was, doubtful.
you dont know mebe? I first heard that shit back in like 2001
zoomer?
mebe he big dumb
yeah mebe
Shit meme
Said the guy with an amongus profile pic
real
Rae made it
I'm not a memer
@elder remnant they're talking shit
Oh it's very am for her
Rise and shine mother fuck
yo guys can we reroll logo to old pls? Clown month is over long time ago
This'l end well for your for sure


@mighty mica
I just want to say I tagged on Arctics behalf
I take no responsibility
You're just pinging everyone everywhere
Is it time for the yearly generational boomkin crash out
I'm a mage
Of course you are dear
Arctic is the glacier crash out
It's always happening, just very very slowly
im gonna finger of frost ur butthole
Ayooo

ngl I'd be down
is that the one where he fucked the captain's daughter ?
or is this 21
It's 22
yeah that's peak
AND HE BRAGGED TO YOUR FACE
YOU BRAGGED TO HIS FACE
iirc he even tophigh
that"s rough
I can hear the ding

Patch going live and gamz gonna be asleep
Probably get buffed cuz that would be funny

Wait when is wow patch going live
I went to bed and woke up and he was still playing
dont tell me its today
He's got issues
tomorrow for us ravec
na is beta testing today
Do I need to do anything?
Like 5 hours
yeah
or can I keep playing destiny
8x m0
8x delves tier 8
Campaign, m0s, delves
oh god kill me
and quest
Just campaign delves and m0
NA beta test - Truest comment ever
2 m0s won't give loot
campaign mandatory????
Tragic really

yeah
Yes
reshi wraps
i believe it's tier 7 that's requiered
U need cloak
ah
It used to be 7
you do the thier 8 with the map next week
you know if this isnt up to date ?
looks like wrong item level there chap
no clue if honest
What
ye me
Dak'd can check for us
EARLY?
so 1 week from now we're already raiding?
ye

crazy
realm list is up, and thats all

got one
yeah
probably cause of summer though
Wonder when xpac drops
and everyone having holidays
christmas?
I made a simple checklist for those who like checklists. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IJkqlCheq5HGeSZOgtCct2MqWJ_Eeim3ph8zRT47CLg/
cheers
THE PLUG
why DMF buff
he will do 2% of all that you've written down
try 0
maybe less
endless augment rune acceleration
DMF buff for the rep gain?
Need rep
Is there alt catchup on the cloak?
Rep.good
who are u
Need contract too
aint no way this guy is in here linking his sheet again
Is 5 renown doable first week?
It's a checklist my dude
Yes, if other people are degenerate too
Yes
he just roams all class discords searching for something he can respond to so he can link whatever document he has made
Locken, rep grind gonna save u 3 weeks

oh
lmao
🔫
Oi roams the class discords looking to pick fights for no reason 🙂
sounds like o i
Ty, I love having checklists to not complete them! 🤣
only about boomkin
I understand that
Oi has reason, he's bored
also unblock me if you're gonna talk about me
Brother aren't we all LOL
you're just very unlikeable larias

Larias "<1 blocked message>"











