balance

[wild dune]

alr suffer i guess

reroll arc mage and compete against the 50 other mages in que

[marsh solar]

damn

[real flax]

why reroll? eventually balance will get buffed, if u are not competing in rwf has 0 sense to reroll if u enjoy chicken

[round field]

Nope

Ur playing ec with current

Nothing enjoyable in that

[real flax]

not enjoyable for you

[round field]

And it will get buffed and still be bottom 5 like always

[round field]

And any other competent player

Ec is terrible design for raid

[plucky valley]

Go back to mythic+ jail

[real flax]

m+ jail

[round field]

Ewww

Only way i do m+ is when my gm forces me

[plucky valley]

I feel you

Only way I do m+ is when I actively spam it all season long because I like it

Not this coming season though

Real life is snatching up all my time

[high zodiac]

Is something changing with boomy that made it good in M+ s2 but not s3?

[vital niche]

Tier set

[digital berry]

Nobody likes standing still for 2 seconds to cast

And ec is VERY punishing if you don’t keep uptime

Cancelling casts and movement decimate your dps

And in a raid setting there’s usually quite a lot of that

[real flax]

its sad but no choice

[digital berry]

The choice is rerolling

Or Quitting

[urban crescent]

cant reroll if you're the only druid in your raid team

[normal pilot]

then you just suffer. that's also a choice

[urban crescent]

real

[plucky valley]

Let the pressure build you up stronger

It might hurt at first but then it’ll start to feel really good

[urban crescent]

[wild dune]

feral

[royal zenith]

dramaqueen

Bamkin is always punishing if you don't keep uptime

[digital berry]

easier to keep uptime when you can complete a cast and stutter step

with wrath

[urban crescent]

how much better is feral looking, unironically

[royal zenith]

yeah then there's WoE, FoE

and other tools to actually move

sure EC is not as comfortable as KOTG

[wild dune]

sims close to 5.8

buffs 3 weeks in a row do funny things

[plucky valley]

I do think that eliminating wrath when playing ec was a really dumb decision

[wild dune]

yes

a hero talent tree that emphasizes simplyifying the spec even more is kinda cringe

[royal zenith]

you just want a different hero talent

for what it's supposed to be, it's a good decision

whole aesthetic/flavour is about lunar power

[wild dune]

the flavor

:icant:

[royal zenith]

I think having to spawn trees and KOTG's buff being linked to generators is worse

same same, but you just prefer kotg

[bronze quail]

Can someone actually link that spreadsheet and not just screenshot? Tyvm ❤️

I tried googling for it with medium effort

[wild dune]

what spreadsheet

[bronze quail]

This one

[wild dune]

pretty sure the actual link is paywalled.

[urban crescent]

okay thanks

[bronze quail]

Sadge

[urban crescent]

i was asking because i was deciding on buying a mythic signet of priory for feral for week 1

[wild dune]

are u pugging

*keys

[urban crescent]

probably not

[wild dune]

wont hurt then

signet is nice.

[urban crescent]

ye still want to do as much damage as i can

yeah i bought a signet fuck it

im assuming they nerf undermine trinkets week 1 of 11.2

[plucky valley]

They chose to eliminate casting wrath in ec but wouldn’t it have been better to change wrath to deal arcane dmg? Give it a new icon and maybe add some flavor where after x number of wrath casts you get an empowered star fire or something

[urban crescent]

sorry idk why my discord keeps randomly sending messages early lol

[plucky valley]

They didn’t just have to remove wrath lol

[royal zenith]

probably yes

but blizzard notoriously doesnt design from a gameplay pov

[plucky valley]

Truuuuue

[urban crescent]

doesn't eclipse kinda make something like that difficult to make

i guess a proc that acts as if you're in lunar eclipse could be cool

[wild dune]

[urban crescent]

or just nuke eclipse entirely ⏸️

[royal zenith]

eclipses have to go

!

[urban crescent]

is that a common opinion

i do feel like eclipses are a bit jank

[royal zenith]

we have some things to say about the eclipse system yes

I think gamz posted something about it here: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/balance-druid-112-feedback-beyond/2127238

[urban crescent]

i wouldn't hate if blizzard decided to remove the life support from eclipse personally

oh yeah that post pretty much encapsulates the jank of eclipse

[round field]

Should just remove player interactions

You complain too much

Back to solar lunar solar lunar cycle

Cant go same eclipse twice

[lofty depot]

Blizzard doesn't like feedback so nothing in that post will happen

[wild dune]

revert to cata boomie where the bar just moves

cast time on starsurge

[round field]

Make eclipse a resource bar

When you cast it fills

And when its full you get big dam as long as you keep casting

And when it drains you die

[royal zenith]

says "you complain too much"

starts complaining

[lyric kettle]

Based

[fossil hemlock]

Do you mean wod?

[round field]

Im not complaining

Im just giving cool ideas

Surrender to madness is one of the coolest spells they have ever made

[lofty depot]

yea stop that

[round field]

Nope

[molten sandal]

,

[wild dune]

im like 99% sure it was in cata too

[quiet drift]

Yes

And it sucks too

Every iteration of eclipses sucked

[wild dune]

yes i am meming

[quiet drift]

Empowerments were passable since they were the least constraining

Eclipses just slapped on as a forced class fantasy

[urban crescent]

any EC talent builds for raid i can mess around with? i assume the m+ EC build is not optimal for raid

[quiet drift]

Gg

[urban crescent]

nvm found one on wowhead

[fossil hemlock]

WoD was the auto-sine wave eclipse

Cata was forced to whatever direction with no choice

But you still manually moved it

[wild dune]

ohh right you manually pushed the bar

[urban crescent]

i remember using astral communion to move the eclipse bar but that might have been mop

[maiden pasture]

surrender to madness on crack

[scarlet tapir]

Make boomkin do all his damage on the first global of a fight and then u have to 19 man rest of the fight

[hollow mist]

nice i fuck with it

[scarlet tapir]

Like 9 billion dmg on pull and u die a horrible death

[lyric kettle]

Real

[urban crescent]

if ur tank has a big ego and wont taunt on pull you insta die

lets go

[scarlet tapir]

@hollow mist

Imagine if this was a thing

And all of them crit

[signal meteor]

is there any info yet about season 3 m+/raid bis trinkets and gear etc?

for boomie

[hollow mist]

GIGA

[round field]

No

[zealous zenith]

Is there confirmed no more changes being made to classes before release?

[wild dune]

no

like nothing is confirmed

you could see a bluepost on patch day, on raid release, or even in the next 5 minutes

[urban crescent]

wouldn't it make more sense for the cat form to get the movement speed and the bear form to get the stamina or am i misunderstanding

[scenic mist]

bluepost just poped a minute ago

[iron ore]

You already get move speed in cat form and stam in bear form

The talent is giving the forms extra bonuses they don’t normally have

[urban crescent]

that makes more sense

thanks

3% avoidance not bad

no more sitting in bear from for prepull 🙁

[stray trellis]

70% to avoid raid spot

[lofty depot]

thats what u think

[urban crescent]

new tech??

pause

[digital berry]

avoidance is literally doo doo

that's a non talent

[craggy sonnet]

Aha

[dense steeple]

thank god

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-matter-care-peaceful-laid-gif-22992945

[lucid olive]

0:02 incarn
whenever you're gonna get bunch of 4pc stacks
whenever trinket is up

rinse repeat

[serene elk]

wtf, they will really delete boomie?

[round field]

yes?

what makes you think otherwise

[willow sorrel]

It's the price we pay for a 3rd DH spec

[round field]

its painfully obvious

by the pure amount of hate devs put into our spec

someone who loves their job and what theyre working on wouldnt do these things

[serene elk]

what's link of blue post?

[scenic mist]

[round field]

🎣

[jaunty blaze]

no way someone actually falls for this

[exotic stump]

Reminder that someone was proud of designing convoke

[drifting nova]

convoke good

[rain pebble]

convoke is fun

[drifting nova]

just make everything baseline

return us to the glory days

[light seal]

Convoke + frenzy was the time to be alive

Over agro 30sec Into single target boss. Good desing

[exotic stump]

[round field]

anyone who says they like convoke should be perma timed out

[candid dragon]

boomy good or RIP this season?

[lofty depot]

if by season u mean m+

u dont make decisions about classes until .5

[candid dragon]

y m+

[digital berry]

Yeah all specs are going to be changed by the time it’s relevant for m+ title

[cloud citrus]

boomy #1

[dreamy cove]

does someone have pic of warlocks chat saying to sandbag sims/expectations

[daring whale]

hey, if you play lunar calling elunes chosen, do you even wrath when in incarnation

or always starfire?

[ionic oak]

Starfire

[fossil hemlock]

Always starfire, only wrath to enter lunar eclipse

[daring whale]

ty alot

[lucid olive]

if you think that shit was serious at all

idk

[dreamy cove]

nah I just need to show that to a warlock

[merry ibex]

Now that is been a few days are we still dooming?

[wild dune]

way past dooming

think we're at acceptance

[merry ibex]

I admit I can't say the idea of spamming starfire in raid feels any more appealing than it did a few days ago

thats not an aura buff problem they'd have to buff keeper only

[solemn idol]

At this point Im just working under the expectation that there'll be hotfixes next week possibly but more likely after rwf

[drifting nova]

no hotfixes until january

holiday until then

[lofty depot]

need to see how it plays out...

u got hope for about a week

[obsidian tapir]

id like convoke if it only would shoot big fat moons

[pale hollow]

@lucid olive is boomie still deader than dead?

[obsidian tapir]

its deleted

[scenic mist]

#balance message

[pale hollow]

Thought so, just confirming, cheers

[pale hollow]

Hahaha

[obsidian tapir]

:)))

[cloud citrus]

pretty sure we going to be the best

[lofty depot]

tettles did say that

[scenic mist]

surely he wouldn't have lied

[jaunty blaze]

i trust this man

[cloud citrus]

he should grow out his beard

so i could trust him more

[mighty mica]

beardless aren't as trustable?

[spiral hull]

Never trust a man that needs a haircut

[lofty depot]

so bald and bearded

that means jb

[lucid olive]

yeah azor put mm in dobby and everyone just followed that

[lofty depot]

im sure hes talking about the xyronic kalamazi chat

but as gamz said. kalamazi was trolling

[solemn idol]

I call it: Benched Under Moonlight or Astral Tears

[lucid olive]

everybody was

ew

[mighty mica]

ew

[lofty depot]

tettles wasnt trolling

[lucid olive]

tettles wouldve put moonkin in bottom of B tier

but MM got dobby so cant put it there

[lofty depot]

he didnt say the funny line

"if mm is dobby then boomkin isnt 5 tiers off the list"

[dreamy cove]

yeah might've been xyronic kalamazi one something about pi and pet ai

[tender elbow]

It says that there has been a new pinned msg but I don't see it? what changed?

[lofty depot]

2p got buffed
4p got nerfed

both hero talents are very low in sim dps

[tender elbow]

aha

[broken root]

itll all get ironed out by week 3

[stuck quartz]

late monday buff inc for boomy just like UH got last season surely

[tender elbow]

so it won't be just Chosen of Elune play then? We will see KotG too?

[lilac citrus]

does anyone know if the valorstone items can be used next week since valor is getting carried over aswell

[cunning dragon]

yes you can

[tender elbow]

dude the pinnged msg doesn't explain it from the previous pinned

[lofty depot]

i assume u dont play ec in raid cuz its just unfun

u play ec in m+ tho

[tender elbow]

if it sims more, then yeah i'd play it

[lofty depot]

it sims more, but that assume urs standing still

[lilac citrus]

wait i just saw the pins keeper set get nerfed again what

[eager raft]

all sims assume youre standing still

what

[lofty depot]

the adults are talking

stfu

[stuck quartz]

spoken like a true adult

[lucid olive]

not really

[eager raft]

aw its so hawd to pway my spec when the speww cast time is .4 second wongew

[lofty depot]

bm hunter talking

[lucid olive]

respectable used to be cool but now his primary function is ragebaiting

idk what happened

[lofty depot]

rerolled hunter

[lucid olive]

the guy changed after he stole that lockout

[eager raft]

mostly got sick of whiners

[lofty depot]

heard theyre known for it

[proper sinew]

Baseline it's .75 longer anyways um akshully

[eager raft]

[tawny cloud]

Hello. what would be the best items to have crafted with which embelishments for when the season starts? 🙂

[manic ferry]

It pretty much always does

[lofty depot]

bracers, boots, feet

can add shoulders, gloves, oh if u want some options

duskthread assuming we use staff from raid

[rain pebble]

you can spend your crests on the crest components before reset and craft later also

[manic ferry]

A majority of people sim patchwerk, and this is what that fight style contains

There's also dungeon slice

[lucid olive]

depends how the apl is written and what the intention of the sim is as well

[eager raft]

its kinda a moot point anyway because there are things that are more consistent to execute when you add movement

such as kotg compared to ec

[lucid olive]

yeah for sure

[manic ferry]

Unless you go out of your way to sim a specific fightstyle, it assumes youre standing still

[lucid olive]

i was just umm achskhually your "all sims stand still"

you can simulate movement in patchwerk

just because the specific virtual character isn't moving you can add stuff like "cast more instant casts here when this happens" etc to simulate movement

or put like raid_movement lines in the apl

[manic ferry]

Yes, you can, but pretty much nobody does

[lucid olive]

yeah but "pretty much nobody does" and "all sims stand still" arent the same or

[manic ferry]

I guess

[lucid olive]

i was just tryna respectable

[eager raft]

u cant deux me when my point was said unseriously

i am immune

[lofty depot]

why couldnt we just use logic and understand that adding movement to a spec with long casts probably loses damage

[lucid olive]

i can deux you whenever i want

[eager raft]

and in response to ur ragebait statement before

[cloud citrus]

how much does it lose us though!

[eager raft]

its not my fault arctic is such easy pickins

[lofty depot]

says the rat i told to stfu

[tawny cloud]

that would be a good option thanks!

[lucid olive]

actions.st+=/moonfire,if=movement.remains<4&astral_power<=40

[lofty depot]

big

[rain pebble]

so many slots spoken for with tier + belt + cloak now

[lofty depot]

4+1+1

maff

6/16? or some shit

add embells +2

[fossil hemlock]

and boots

[pallid bay]

think you guys are being hyperbolic about EC

have you played it in raid even

you have plenty of instant gcds

[fossil hemlock]

I can't imagine it's much different from m+, and it feels really mobile in m+

Like REALLY mobile

Lots of instant casts

[pallid bay]

like i think for the average players its probably worse than keeper

[cloud citrus]

Yea spamming moonfire actually a huge dps gain in 2 of these fights

[pallid bay]

but if you know the fights and plan for movement you probably even have more gcds than keeper

[rain pebble]

I played it in heroic because fuck trees

[eager raft]

i dont think those are the instant casts hes talkin about

[cloud citrus]

always walkin!

[lucid olive]

losing Rattle won't help for movement either

[pallid bay]

so pick rattle

[lucid olive]

but yeah it's just about planning better

[rain pebble]

MM feels worse when you have to move and stop your aimed shots

[lucid olive]

no then I lose cats and they pump fr

[cloud citrus]

noo not the cats

[pallid bay]

i think a lot of people would benefit from thinking a little what would benefit them instead of looking at sub 1% sim gains

[lucid olive]

yeah for sure

[cloud citrus]

EC 300k dps ahead of KotG though is crazy and means even with terrible movement probs will still be better

[lucid olive]

depends what happens in the fight too

[pallid bay]

like i bet some people would perform better on keeper by playing SotF

[lofty depot]

me on queen, using cosmo instead of cats

[rain pebble]

more people can just go off vibes based picks really, they aren't doing content hard enough and with enough skill where it matters

see people copying meta build and worry over stat weights etc and they don't even press their buttons properly

[pallid bay]

i mean i think you should educate yourself so you can make informed decisions

[rain pebble]

a lot of people should worry about what works for them and make sure they can do their basic stuff first though before the minmaxing
I played EC in heroic raid because trees weren't working for me

[drifting nova]

it's a safe space

you can say it

trees bad

[rain pebble]

I'm gonna play Ret and Balance and both are gonna be considered bad apparently but I'm just doing what I can with what I want to play, just picking specs on vibes and attachment to characters

[royal zenith]

gonna vibe so much, bosses die because of vibrations

u feel me

[jaunty blaze]

Damn thats crazy

Contributing vibes and vers to the raid

That's about it

[rain pebble]

I mean for the social raid I'm still top DPS or so compared to people who don't use half their GCDs

[cloud citrus]

rik riverb wasnt vibin

[royal zenith]

yeah, that's a social raid

[molten sandal]

Moonkin just gets reworked into a support spec and we buff everyone around us with +Avoidance when we /dance

[jaunty blaze]

[cloud citrus]

im ok shooting beams of light at my friends to help them become stronger and overcome difficulties!

[rain pebble]

magical girl

[lunar whale]

What item do you guys craft with embe in exchange of back?

[lofty depot]

bracer, belt, boots

botos liekly til u get the raid ones

can have some shoulder, gloves, oh combinations as well

[lunar whale]

Thanks lad

[dense steeple]

im basically JB

[drifting nova]

what are ye doing in me

[weary urchin]

would recrafting to elemental focus for the M+ focus be a good move?

[lofty depot]

people recraft to duskthread usually

[weary urchin]

for M+? thought that was more a parse thing.

[balmy light]

Insane tuning in a few hours.

[jaunty blaze]

INSANE

[tulip snow]

tuning on weekend pog

[rancid sonnet]

really?

[vital hound]

i saw your tweet

lol

cats caught strays

[lofty depot]

known liar

[meager storm]

MM does NOT feel worse than EC in raid

[scarlet tapir]

Bro refused to play something thats not 2 buttons

[meager storm]

that is an insane statement

[scarlet tapir]

U almost always have free casts on mm

Thats something someone who never played mm would say

[delicate perch]

Still no tuning in the future, pick a better class before it’s too late

[rancid sonnet]

[scarlet tapir]

Fuck you @delicate perch

You get patch earlier!

Not fair

[delicate perch]

Just spreading awareness

[rain pebble]

I played MM BFA, SL, season 3 DF and a bit end of season 1 TWW

but aight

[scarlet tapir]

So u played mm when it was completely different

Got it

[meager storm]

actually shadowlands, s3 df and s1 tww, all of them had faster casts, and even atm after the rework during ansurek tier it is still not even close to how bad EC is

[delicate perch]

I played MM BFA, SL, season 3 DF and a bit end of season 1 TWW
but aight

[scarlet tapir]

I played mm in pandaria, wod and a bit at the end of legion

But alright

[formal crest]

Get back to bed old man

[scarlet tapir]

im jk i started in sylvannas tier, only played for real on jailer

💀

[meager storm]

another sod baby holy

we got catfished

[formal crest]

Disgusting

Imagine starting wow when domination shards were a thing

[vital hound]

lol catch up loser

[scarlet tapir]

my first grind was actually domination shards

i remember that tier i reached fatescribe rokhalo

and that was when my tier ended

and that boss was so easy looking back

[formal crest]

It’s okay man

[vital hound]

sprout cyon

what the helly

[scarlet tapir]

i grinded sebellion rep on df s1 aswell

on the first day

if thats not commitement

idk

[rough ruin]

So we should still be good in M+ right ? Just our single target got butchered ?

[scarlet tapir]

all for a cloak that got replaced a week after

[meager storm]

i miss zereth mortis rep grind

[formal crest]

Yeah I left but I came back cause I had to check something

[vital hound]

[formal crest]

I miss grinding for AP for my artifact weapon

[formal crest]

lol

[meager storm]

EC is alright... cant tell atm since pugs are pretty bad but we are definitely not close to the top

[lofty depot]

did u not play legion?

or bfa for that matter

[tame dome]

any leaked news? any big balance changes incoming? *huffs copium

[lofty depot]

they aint working its gods day

[meager storm]

there is a week before mythic opens so surely

[vital hound]

[scarlet tapir]

no, i legit start playing on sanctum

[meager storm]

hear me out

[lofty depot]

dam

[meager storm]

from 6x to 15x and a small aura buff

[lofty depot]

🙏

[meager storm]

[scarlet tapir]

id be on dak level

if i started earlier

unlucky

[lofty depot]

dak do be old

[scarlet tapir]

would probably quit balance earlier too

[meager storm]

u had be on my lvl if u had a Recruitie on ur guild so u are pushed to perform well

[cold sparrow]

[rough ruin]

I’m sticking as balance idc we will see changes throughout the season

[formal crest]

What do you play now

[tame dome]

I love balance but I also love being really tough ;_;

[formal crest]

CoBH sus

[rough ruin]

Tbh idk how that even changes. I know I joined a few class discords to see what everyone thinks of their classes lol

[lofty depot]

warlocks

[rough ruin]

Warlocks are cool lol

[scarlet tapir]

dev, kinda goated at it too

oops

[wild dune]

[lofty depot]

🚪

[scarlet tapir]

i just drank 1.5L of water in 10 secs

im gonna overflow

[meager storm]

[tame dome]

that's actually quite dangerous

[meager storm]

i think hunters are the ones with victim complex

[formal crest]

Don’t hate on my alter ego

[lofty depot]

isnt that a guild 🤔

[formal crest]

Also. You play Mage

Bald

[scarlet tapir]

yeah i could turn into a fish tank

[meager storm]

well

[calm ibex]

No

[lofty depot]

im a wizard harry

[calm ibex]

Please buff boomy I don’t want to play dev

[lofty depot]

erhmmm i play both actually

[tame dome]

nah it's more that if you drink too much water too quickly, your lungs start to fill with water and you drown

[scarlet tapir]

god let that be true

it would be so fucking funny

[lofty depot]

we have 1 mage, sooooo i prepare to play bamkin or mage

im helping

but i refuse to play arcane... so frost gang

[formal crest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/744015979344035864/1295783539782193282/shutupbaldy.gif

[lofty depot]

[weary urchin]

is there a way to sim reshii wraps?

[meager storm]

just look up Hyponatremia

[lofty depot]

https://tenor.com/view/iyo-sky-wwe-wwe-raw-fired-up-hype-gif-2333703900795338927

[scarlet tapir]

that happens if its regular

i never do that almost

just did it once

[formal crest]

I have my warlock on standby in case we are really just given the short stick

[formal crest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1387378908244086824/1390415713969115136/chrome_gRyjQSmDpJ.gif

[tame dome]

seriously, may be worth having some crisps / something wiht plenty of electrolytes

[formal crest]

Crisps. Hmm

[scarlet tapir]

wtf is a crisp

like a bag of lays?

[lofty depot]

uk ting?

[tame dome]

oh ofc

bag of chips

salt

[scarlet tapir]

i just had a burgir

is it not enough

i was just really thirsty...

[meager storm]

its not water getting into ur lungs but low sodium lvls in the blood due to excessive dilution

i think it can cause like comas and sht

[meager storm]

ggs

[tame dome]

cell walls can fail, water leaks into lungs, can drown, it's called the death rattle

[scarlet tapir]

ok it was more like 10 mins, half before and other half after the burger

[meager storm]

ggs

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/job-jumpscare-job-application-job-meme-job-jumpscare-gif-5102454363566376023

[night gulch]

trigger warning please

[drifting nova]

is max' tier list good or

[drifting nova]

waiting for the yap master to bring it back up

fuck, took the wrong portal smh

[digital berry]

It’s just sanbdagmaxxing

[delicate perch]

never fails to make me laugh

why is he so happy I wonder

[true viper]

Bros proud

[delicate perch]

[true viper]

nightmare blunt rotation

[meager storm]

holy top tier pasta dropped

That is simply false my guy, i bet you haven't even seen his tier lists. He tests them all. If you don't know anything about his recent videos then stop answering me like you actually know.

[delicate perch]

that has to be bait

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[lofty depot]

he means business

[true viper]

Im gonna recive a bad news

[lucid olive]

idk i think you shouldve censored the name

[delicate perch]

boomkins getting another nerf

[lucid olive]

if you're gonna spread "lmao look at this guy in my chat" in a public space

at least censor their name

so it doesn't have the opportunity to start a needless witch hunt

[true viper]

Yeah true

[digital berry]

He’s probably the balance dev

[meager storm]

he saw his boomy's channel logs

ggs

[true viper]

I got sent that after I posted this

Gulp

[delicate perch]

shiver me timbers

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/luntry-gif-26563186

[digital berry]

I need access to that sticker

[iron chasm]

As the only balance Druid player left in the world I’m very upset by this

[delicate perch]

just log into bootypopm

[iron chasm]

Bootym is never hitting max level

[delicate perch]

[lofty depot]

there will still be boomkins

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/mufasa-stars-simba-lion-king-gif-21768972

[delicate perch]

wrong

[iron chasm]

Ummm wrong. I’ll be the only one

[dense steeple]

ive been here as a boomkin since the ancient times

i was a boomkin when the pyramids were built

i was a boomkin when babylonia fell

i will be a boomkin

[real flax]

ill tell maximum to put boomkim in c tier in m+

[dense steeple]

ive been through worse iterations of boomkin

also fuck m+

[drifting nova]

tune into max, my spec is in giga dobby tier

it's so over

staying on mop

[vital hound]

tindral boomkins rise up

[worldly spruce]

we survived tindral as boomkins we will be good

[obsidian jetty]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170884158583746602/1384372021928136714/7320831648431688416.gif

me on tindral

[true viper]

Real ones were on feral

[digital berry]

https://m.twitch.tv/kryptick94/clip/ToughAbrasiveSeahorseBIRB-8224AvYrtYwyt5sl?desktop-redirect=true

This could be us

[teal sphinx]

@digital berry good to see you in the space you belong

[stuck meadow]

did they manage to kill it after tho?

[normal pilot]

is it race to world last time?

[quiet drift]

🍿

[turbid crypt]

isn't the official race to world last next week?

since the new raid doesn't drop till the 12th

[lofty depot]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-reminds-players-season-2-ends-this-week-season-rewards-no-longer-377981
they posted this which states "taking a new approach"

which sounds like it ends tuesday

but yea it had before been the week raid comes out rather than patch

[true viper]

i dont see how it they allow cutting edge to be collected after the new class changes and even m0 in the game lol

[lofty depot]

well they normally allowed it so

the m0 thing is new, but yea

[true viper]

you can even get the new cloak too next week

[vital hound]

yea thats why its diff

we get season 3 gear

[delicate perch]

buff gally for the last week imo

[teal sphinx]

two questions

first do i do 1 key on the warrior to get 3k?

and second, do you have AC in your third world country?

[delicate perch]

+1 key for +1 mount sounds kinda worth

[teal sphinx]

i got the mount on the main

[delicate perch]

ya it was either those or gun ranges so we went with AC

[teal sphinx]

thats a shame, could have had both

[delicate perch]

log off time if mount already obtained

[teal sphinx]

i finally got ac in my house, brother its game changing

[vital hound]

just open the window

fucking idiot

?

[delicate perch]

ya builders in australia couldn't decide if they wanted our houses build for summer or winter

so they chose neither

[teal sphinx]

its 9pm at night

no

no i dont think i will

[vital hound]

are youo gonna get robbed at gunpoint

[delicate perch]

what is that is human terms

[vital hound]

because your window is open

[delicate perch]

he is in america... so... yes

[vital hound]

[delicate perch]

window closed = they can not rob him

[teal sphinx]

thats funny to think i would get robbed

[vital hound]

how did you achieve that build

[delicate perch]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-hartwell-white-sr-heisenberg-bryan-cranston-gif-16636350

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/jacksfilms-add-some-protein-protein-shake-protein-powder-blender-gif-27348172

[glossy jungle]

hey look. That's us

[fiery veldt]

ayone think they gunna do a boof in time? ❤️

[meager storm]

during heroic week

[lucid olive]

i don't think you should talk about boofing in here

[vital hound]

m0 week

[meager storm]

same thing

week before mythic

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/Ksq9.gif

[meager storm]

https://tenor.com/view/esquie-mon-ami-huh-calculating-gif-15072777769569231196

same same

[potent cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/esqui-expedition-33-wine-clair-obscur-esquie-wine-gif-537644450569445079

[delicate perch]

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[misty patrol]

Woooooo

[ember quartz]

Right now it's a lot of wooooooo and not enough wheeeeeee

[elder remnant]

Get starfired idiots

[cloud plover]

Starfire.

[hollow mist]

Starfire.

[somber path]

Starfield

[normal pilot]

starfried

[jaunty blaze]

You WILL cast starfire and you WILL love it

[somber path]

skyrim but in space but worse

[jaunty blaze]

[muted citrus]

hi

[wicked shuttle]

Starfire

[clear pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/761839534311997441/1354230966331375808/boomie_shit_loot.gif

[teal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/boomkin-moonkin-wow-world-of-warcraft-goosy-gif-926362862248136452

[calm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/moonkin-dance-starfall-dancing-moonkin-gif-20256106

[true viper]

https://tenor.com/view/rachyl-shortquake-pov-sunsets-healed-you-gif-7349890771166578945

[obsidian jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-in-rain-gif-16989196319284498272

[hollow mist]

me as hell

[twin lotus]

how are we doing fellas

so excited to play buffed boomkin

in the upcoming days

[jaunty blaze]

Yuh

Today for sure

[delicate perch]

next buff is feb 2026

[jaunty blaze]

[delicate perch]

yea I'm stealing that

[jaunty blaze]

[delicate perch]

[calm ibex]

Based

[hollow mist]

ur based

[calm ibex]

Based on what?

[twin lotus]

use actual words you troglodyte

[hollow mist]

what's an actual word :3

[twin lotus]

I don't know

[royal zenith]

-> You stink

[twin lotus]

Just said that to fit in

[royal zenith]

there you go

actual words

[twin lotus]

[hollow mist]

keep up the good work ull fit in perfect here

[hollow mist]

[light sun]

coming back for a quick glimpse in the druid discord, seeing Lake typing, all good.. everything seems normal.
now I can head back into rl again

[hollow mist]

RONNY

WADDUP DUDE HOW U BEEN

[light sun]

thats me

good so far, hope you're doing good too

[sudden flame]

have you been doing your homework?

[hollow mist]

glad 2 hear, I quit wow in pursuit of enlightenment

[light sun]

did you find enlightenment yet?

https://imgur.com/yhhEECs

[twin lotus]

All musclebrah tik toks have been watched. I am ready for progress (sitting on the bench)

[light sun]

go get it champ

may the pump be with you

[twin lotus]

I am doing feral homework, because it is a known fact that nex tier you want to bring 2 of them

[hollow mist]

it is still a work in progress.. detaching from all wordly desires is harder than I thought..

[sudden flame]

[light sun]

playing wow 24/7 is like detaching from all wordly desires or not? 🤔

[sudden flame]

musclebrah replied to my tiktok comment yesterday

( i was flaming his feral opener)

[light sun]

I think you're on to something Lake.
I'll be watching your progress with great pleasure

[hollow mist]

hmm... I am not sure what the buddha would say on this , I'll have to get back 2 u..

[light sun]

[vital hound]

are you guys excited for next season

[delicate perch]

ya

[vital hound]

im motw again

lock in baby

[delicate perch]

[hollow mist]

yea im playing dev

[vital hound]

[vital hound]

i might just force the issue

with kotg

[delicate perch]

you and @iron chasm can fight for 1st and 2nd

[vital hound]

[delicate perch]

[vital hound]

[light sun]

you said you quit wow

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-shocked-face-stunned-pokemon-shocked-not-shocked-omg-gif-24112152

[hollow mist]

ok hold on i can explain

[royal zenith]

The explanation: I quit every week. Teehee.

[hollow mist]

listen here deux..

[eager raft]

teehee

[lyric thicket]

I love EC

[hollow mist]

entenzwerg and an out of context quote woahhh how original

[exotic stump]

Ya

[vital hound]

HYPOTHETICALLY

[exotic stump]

Fastester yes of my life

[jaunty blaze]

I wish someone had asked me that

[muted citrus]

im a sinner im a saint

[gentle patio]

why did they even need to nerf it

we were already dead

now we're just dust

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-smile-happy-pleasant-ok-gif-7842402999527921837

[crude cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1194044579620585573.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=poor

[vale pebble]

it is all part of a bigger plan that you just do not understand

[gentle patio]

you make it sound like an insult 😂

[delicate perch]

😂

[vale pebble]

[crude cargo]

more resto druid players for m+

[slender stag]

So, i just joined and im reading all... balance is dead?

[fossil hemlock]

Balance is on the lower end but it's technically fine, current outlook is that we're playing EC in all content

[frigid yoke]

Balance is not fine. Nor usefull is most situation unles u need utility

[quiet drift]

So nothing has changed

Put the innervate in the bag

[lyric thicket]

J-2 before buff

[stuck meadow]

78% canceled starfire casts is my prediction for raids

[fossil hemlock]

That's a "git gud" angle

[dire osprey]

i looove spamming 1 button

cant wait 🙂

[fossil hemlock]

You're right, starfire into surge spam is so different from wrath into surge spam

[dire osprey]

its fine im so excited for tomorrows buffs

[bronze quail]

Hell yeeeeea buffs lets goooooo

[delicate perch]

yeah way different (even less of the 1 button!)

[dire osprey]

its more the fact that theres nothing exciting going on, just slow ass casts

not even trees to look forward to

[delicate perch]

is wrath spam exciting tho

like is it really

[bronze quail]

More than starfire lol

[fossil hemlock]

You trade trees for WoE and FoE

[exotic stump]

Dw we're getting the .5 rework for sure

[fossil hemlock]

Every 45 and 20-ish seconds

[delicate perch]

[dire osprey]

we will get buffed halfway through so people can say "its another broken boomy season"

[exotic stump]

Maybe the answer is just bringing stellar drift back

[fossil hemlock]

Sure, but it's the CD version

[exotic stump]

Yeah watch them buff all EC spells to the moon, making us stupidly strong in m+

[exotic stump]

Yes, and make FoE or a new spell our AoE spender

[dire osprey]

FoE becomes our breath 💀

or maybe starfall but it also comes with stellar drift

[exotic stump]

No pls I have asthma

[exotic stump]

Ok that might be a cook

[fossil hemlock]

Make FoE an empower spell

Stage 1 same as now, stage 3 or 4 giga up front nuke

[exotic stump]

?? Full moon is right there

[fossil hemlock]

Okay make full moon an empower spell

[exotic stump]

Empower 1 small moon, 2 mid moon, 3 big moon

[delicate perch]

rank 3 full moon

[dire osprey]

full moon was lowkey fun

[delicate perch]

28 second charge up time

[fossil hemlock]

Full moon in legion filled a very nice spot in the rotational flow

[exotic stump]

Make it a 5s cast that costs like 90 AP

[fossil hemlock]

They messed up somewhere since then

[exotic stump]

They messed up when they made incarn last like 4 gcds

There is no fucking way you're fitting that long of a cast inside such a short window

Especially when it's a builder??? And thus feels bad to end incarn at full AP

[fossil hemlock]

[twin lotus]

full moon as empowered is cooking

[fossil hemlock]

I'll take any rework of the spell to make it good

I like moons

[dire osprey]

ok but i want the last stage to be the size of the actual moon

[exotic stump]

Yeah like

Make it cost all of your AP

With a long ass cast

But make it worth it

You're dropping a fucking moon on the mobs that shit better hurt (including in AoE)

[dire osprey]

and make it apply stellar flare

[slate thicket]

Something like maelstrom weapon stacks for moon for ec would be cool aswell. Full stacks =big damage instant moon

[exotic stump]

Nah, in today's world it would have to be built super fast

[fossil hemlock]

You just (sort of) described our 4p, except the moon doesn't benefit from the 4p buff

[exotic stump]

Although I like the idea of a spell you can charge up

Sort of like the KOTG tier set

[exotic stump]

Make it apply all dots and always benefit from mastery as if dots were present

(and yes, delete waning twilight)

[dire osprey]

no more ramping for 20 seconds

[exotic stump]

No more being useless in small keys

Pull would be incarn into full moon

Delete Stellar Flare as a spell

Make it only be applied by FM

So many possibilities

Instead we get a useless ass cast that for some reason does negative AoE damage

[dire osprey]

[exotic stump]

Blizzard dev if you're listening also

Put convoke in the class tree and make it a utility spell

Choice node with roar or something to keep it in check, make it a healing CD if you're in anything but bear and tanking CD if you're in bear form

[sudden flame]

[fossil hemlock]

Or just make it a healing CD for bear too

[exotic stump]

Yeah F it

Anything to keep it from being part of our actual dps rotation

[quiet drift]

ye man Kotg is SO different

Spamming Wrath = cinema

Spamming Starfire = cringe

[cloud plover]

Spamming Starfire = cinema

Spamming Wrath = cringe

[stuck meadow]

maybe if they make WoE cd reduced everytime you cast a starfire

like FoE

[exotic stump]

Oh yeah make it feel extra bad if you have to cancel a cast

[boreal knot]

skill issue...

[exotic stump]

Ye ye I agree with Oi

Still doesn't mean the game should torture you when you make a super common mistake (especially in early prog moments)

[cloud plover]

as a boomie main (one trick all my life) I believe you should be punished with death for canceling one gcd

[hallow tiger]

bro, did u find this google sheet?
screen's are good, but i prefer to look at file )

[lofty depot]

It's paywalled til raid week

[hallow tiger]

how much $?

[lofty depot]

Twitch prime

[hallow tiger]

oh, i see
ty ❤️

[sudden flame]

[pallid bay]

you might be rank1 EC player

[boreal knot]

EC is just the superior tree

[pallid bay]

MM is the superior spec

[boreal knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484287316827963412/1292878033287647242/photo_2024-01-21_18-20-37.gif

[exotic stump]

Does make sense when you think about how what should happen to all boomkin players

[quiet drift]

This is what happens when you sway away from dots

https://tenor.com/view/deer-smile-happy-pleasant-ok-gif-7842402999527921837

[royal zenith]

starfire stinky

[cloud plover]

starfire based

[jaunty blaze]

Starefire

[dire osprey]

starfi

[jaunty blaze]

[exotic stump]

Haven't looked at the EC builds

Are we playing incarn or convoke with it

[stone ocean]

how we looking next patch ?

any information on it ?

🙂

[cloud plover]

😄

[pseudo merlin]

It's over

[cloud lion]

U dont want to know

[cloud plover]

yeah dude balance is looking amazing

we're playing EC in raid

finally

[royal zenith]

incarn afaik

[cloud plover]

it's looking good

[royal zenith]

actually, not sure on ST

[stone ocean]

should i re roll to feral ?

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[cloud plover]

you should reroll different class

[cloud lion]

What ST?

[royal zenith]

yeah, incarn

[woven flint]

Should i reroll to dev

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[woven flint]

Ty

[cloud plover]

no they're not looking good either

warlock.

[royal zenith]

that's a cap

[cloud plover]

we need more.

[pseudo merlin]

they will get fixed dont worry

[cloud lion]

Even reroll to retri is better

[pseudo merlin]

please dont say retri

😩

drop the ri

[cloud plover]

retrib

[exotic stump]

Fuck, convoke + EC casting Starfire would get close to the ultimate multitasking spec in the game.

[woven flint]

When i top gally mythic on balance druid and meme entire raid thats good

[exotic stump]

Dudu

[royal zenith]

I mean, there's ways to automize casting starfire

so you are already there

convoke actually more effort

[cloud lion]

Convoke in EC would be so good spaming wrath and healing enemy

[exotic stump]

Wouldn't those be against ToS tho

[royal zenith]

it would yes

[cloud lion]

I cant use hold to cast

[royal zenith]

can also just OBR

[cloud lion]

Cuz if i enter boomie form with that option checked its get me in and out of form forever

[exotic stump]

Ok but what would be trolling

Using OBR on a spec thats already like 3 buttons

[cloud plover]

what happens if u alternate between pressing obr and starfire.

[royal zenith]

yeah and playing convoke for the sake of multitasking is not trolling?!

you are out of your mind!!

[cloud lion]

Trolling or inting playing boomie over any good spec with obr

[exotic stump]

2.4s is long enough for me to swap to other moonkin on 2nd screen and initiate a Starfire cast, rinse and repeat

One of them would have a slight delay on pull but that's about it

Obr doesn't allow that

Unless you multi input?

[royal zenith]

no clue

haven't tried using OBR

[round field]

I did

(dont do it)

[cloud plover]

I did for 30s then got bored and pressed normal buttons

idk how people manage

[royal zenith]

does it matter

my colleague used it for his pvp shenanigans

was really happy with it

if targetaudience is happy, it's a good feature

[cloud plover]

wtf colleague that plays wow

[round field]

Pvp 🤮

[upper anvil]

Resto looks strong this season. Is it time to reroll into resto

[royal zenith]

got many colleagues that play wow

all developers tho...

(shocker)

[fossil hemlock]

Wow devs???

[royal zenith]

nah, I'd influence their decision making if they were

cause holy shit

this tier is not it

[wild dune]

it's over bud

learn feral or mage

[royal zenith]

aura buff incoming

fior sure

for*

[fossil hemlock]

Almost without a doubt

[wild dune]

enjoy EC in raid then

[fossil hemlock]

Idk, maybe I will

I might start enjoying it out of spite

[wild dune]

I'd rather put my cock and balls in a Panini press than press Starfire for 3 hours straight

Just to get outdamaged by feral

[fossil hemlock]

Don't worry, if you press starfire for 3 hours your raid lead will bench you for not pressing surge once

[exotic stump]

Might be useful to include a guide on how to make your name "always show" on details when updating Dreamgrove

[worldly plume]

so we are going for resto until boomie is playable

[lofty depot]

Boomie is playable

[fossil hemlock]

It really just depends on what your goal/content is

[misty glade]

Let's all just enjoy our overlordess Elune and her ungodly long casts

It'll be fiiiiiine

[jaunty blaze]

Goon to elune

[solemn idol]

Probably get a round of hotfixes for a lot of classes this week or more likely once rwf ends. But still doesn't excuse the all around bad (ST)tuning going in to this patch.

[quiet drift]

Just a shitshow with the doubled workload due to the tier set design

Skeleton crews have their limitations

[flint rose]

In season 2, we weren't good at ST but that didn't stop us from getting the CE

[royal zenith]

you can also just buy a boost for an easy CE

tuning also only matters first 1 to 4 weeks

[lofty depot]

What makes u say we weren't good?

[flint rose]

whining

[lofty depot]

Winning*

[flint rose]

On S2, I think we're okay. I'm waiting to actually see season 3.
But I'm assuming I'd rather have a bottom-of-the-table guy who knows how to play than an OP class that sucks.

[quiet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-monkey-3amskypecall-monkey-gif-6610262280188410503

[lofty depot]

Depending on the player and ur guilds general level. In most cases it's just bring the player right.

And they tune things after rwf to make them within a few percent of each other (usually I mean dev was op for months after).

But this isn't a little different of a problem

[real flax]

it's still playable but people will see tier lists and shit and will think boomie=no invite

[royal zenith]

actually you know what

Ill entertain this

[flint rose]

Yes, that's for sure!

[royal zenith]

I think someone who delivers 5mil dps while getting blue, is objectively worth more than someone who brings 3.5mil dps while parsing 99's

thoughts?

[ember quartz]

Weird definition of "worth"

[royal zenith]

why

it's just a numbers game

[real flax]

its guaranteed the dps will make that dmg?

[lofty depot]

I mean yea that's like 50% dam inc

[royal zenith]

boss has x amount of hp, you need to x amount of damage

shrimple

[lofty depot]

When the boomkin 99s and there's people green and blue parsing above them

[vale pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/king-pig-angry-birds-toons-mcdonalds-mcdonalds-is-closed-bad-piggies-gif-27390250

[lofty depot]

But the damage is usually not 3.5 vs 5

[royal zenith]

at least you can always filter on boss-damage lumao

nah the example is hyperbolic

but if you deliver more dps while being able to fuck up on your spec, the 99's don't matter

[royal zenith]

leaves more room to focus on mechanics

[real flax]

ye the chicken need tuning

[quiet drift]

@vale pebble youre getting tuned bud

[vale pebble]

🧑‍🏭

ill be soundin like a bmw

[gentle scroll]

Someone posted an image of this early season. top 5 damage, boomy in like 4th with a 98 parse and blue/purple parses above.

[lofty depot]

More like a Honda Civic with a ricer muffler

[dire osprey]

yea last season early on we had a fury warr outdps our assa rogue that parsed a 100

while the fury parsed a 13

[vale pebble]

[dire osprey]

on ST

[lofty depot]

That's.... crazy

[vale pebble]

🐬

[royal zenith]

you should really bring that assa rogue though

[dire osprey]

siht like that is fried

[royal zenith]

clearly goated player

[dire osprey]

yeah and when the fury learns to play hes gonna get gapped

[gentle scroll]

Once that fury learns to press his two alternating buttons your in trouble bud

[royal zenith]

at least the assa rogue is not visibly and deliberaletely inting the raid by playing that spec

[lofty depot]

The war is likely visibly and deliberately inting cuz he stands on top raid with mechanics

[royal zenith]

one day you'll get it