#balance
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idk last time he did tier list the A tier was full
azor?
no the full tier list
Sigh kitty time again eh?
doing 6.2
im saying that in general more specs seem to be putting themselves lower than they did last time
and they think everyone else is around that
maybe
So are we at least still good for keys this season?
"arms sims at a low 5.3m"
or still too soon?

no
Is tank damage considered good?
appreciate the honesty now to decide if i wanna play sumthing else or just take a break lol
ok
5.3 mil arms lowst tier
he will need to add another row
for boomy
or a couple
i wonder what other spec does this
play what's fun etc etc
I sim hypotheticals for fun
rogue
arctic bro
🙂
looks like kittenmaxing's back on the menu bois
You mean rerolling
Why did tettles link an EC sim with PI on
lmao
Can you not edit tweets, Im sure he got told
he did
can't wait for kalamazi to drop the demo A tier call
he just put out a video about destro being sleeper or smth
everyone always says play whats fun but if ur mythic raiding or pushing keys it does suck to suck idk lol
like if u have 2 people that are similar mechanics wise ur gunna bring the better dps no?
Every class but druid sandbagged on sims
i mean it'll be easy to parse with only 4 other boomies. guaranteed 20% minimum
i feel like ur not completly wrong but my team has a roster of 29 atm so i feel like unless sumthing changes right i might be fucked
u right i think
29 would feel bad
You need a druid buff, and if you aren't HOF raiding, playing good is enough for a spot
we have a druid healer so thats out
Even with these numbers
demo a tier lmfao
dak is getting baited
boomie wont even make the list
thatd be funny
boomie gonna get its own tier
gotta dm dorki to tell him boomie cant even be on the list
like "were middle of the back blizz dont nerf us "
These are the people that say boomy sandbags btw
What do we sim at
hows spriest gunna be next season? mebe i can get one geared up
4.8
5.2 if u play ec that will make u most likely go lower than 4.8 as kotg cuz u need insane uptime
think its good
dwilkz was playing in m+
Are you re rolling Hunter
dobby
yeah right
if mm is dobby boomy shouldnt be ranked at all
that can be true
^
@wicked shuttle
he is prob being disingenuous cuz idk or uninformed?
maybe he thinks everyone is doing 5.5+
paywall uninformed, hm
Idk man! You gotta pay him for him to answer truthfully
LOL?
Damage good, gameplay bad
i wish we had someone who sandbagged as hard as kalamazi
thing is
we actually wanted our degen set fixed on ptr
we could have just sandbagged so they didnt fix it
but we did
and we pay the price
turns out we should just sandbag
ethical moonkins
they can fix it mid tier
@lucid olive u beat the sandbagging allegations
i feel like azor always harrrrd sandbagging on these lists
thats crazy
yeah
i will actually sandbag from now on
on ptr
i will play other specs
minmax it
and get them nerfed
idc
2022 and still true 3 years later
they lost their spot to venth boomy back then
we got a bad name. We’re the crybabies of the game
Were the ones perpetually dogshit
thought that was DKs
If we don’t bitch the spec might as well be deleted
wow players are dumb. would rather blame other players who can't do anything instead of blizz who make all the dumb decisions
bro .. skipping through the last hour of max list
real
I am dumb and I will keep blaming warlocks
if your spec sucks the only 2 parties responsible are 1) blizz for making it suck and 2) you for keep paying them
seems reasonably ranked
Fuhhh. I gotta start with the man in the mirror
I’m lowkey not mentally strong enough to watch max’s stream when boomkin comes up
I gotta ask him to change his ways
Toughen up bro. Its gonna be a fun 11.2
Yo fuck ads
Lol
its nitro season
if MM is Dobby I agree boomkins not even getting a rank on the tier
Im a broke bitch
o7
I am VERY curious what dorki will say about balance
MM is pretty fucked
We need gamz to get called up
Oi
Someone
picks up call "hello" hangs up
Like hasn’t he just played balance for 1 or 2 seasons in m+?
idk, he raided it
I raided lock once too
cool
thyme save us plz
okay, time to turn on slow mode
As we should
Having a hard time keeping up or
Yeah. I prefer it. Imagine 5 rows of different reacts
totally, 1 message minute is too much for my old ass
Me kekw reacting with every one available in guild discord
Dw give it time and it’ll be 0
can't come soon enough
Hope Gamz gets on and saves us 
Seen gamz on a warlock earlier
based
Lol nah say it aint so
spam my name in the chat
gamzrat is very real
Et tu brute?
surely he looks at it..
no

Whats ya twitch
Holy I was gaslighting but now I’m not??? Login
Oh no
Ty

Aye wtf
Oh it's not even slow mode
yeah,i lied

what can you do
You deving or mage-ing?
Gamzrat is a baller
Dev 99%, Aug 1%
Actually wow. Back stab
Are you sticking with boomy?
I have an evoker too..
better get ready for your call @lucid olive
We trying it
oh I didn't see you brigaded that kekw
Yeah real, boomkins quite interesting tho
well its interesting and funny

Lol got em
lmfao
time to start spamming arctic for boomie
yeah get gary on
picks up call "hello" hangs up
Gary—— Yeeeet
Aug sims at 6 mill and they say it’s “pretty good “
dorki about to put us in "high B"
how come none of these people are capable of talking succinctly
its probably that in m+
Comes with the territory
running us through the numbers on ebon might split is ????
gamz if you get in for boomie you better be TIGHT
“Content creators” 
how do i make three lines of patch notes into a 20 minute monetized video 
Nah tettles made me go kyrian
Someone clip it if gamz gets on 🙏

Damn ads

change ur name to guldan before u enter the call
I haven’t gotten a single add and I’m not subbed nor turbo I am confused
the mods went "holy shit this guy keeps talking send the ads"
2 minute ad 
noob
have yt open at the same time
so u can swap
during ads

amen
just use brave browser, built in ad block for twitch works 100%
Gift me sub please I beg
how do yall not use adblocker on 2025
Dang true dood
even on yt is crazy work
there is more than 1 application 
get ready gamz
Which one works for twitch
Because ublock doesn't
Dorki
Dorki
Idk if anyone is happy about it
adblock plus works
i just fear dorki doesnt know all the changes they have done
Literally not a stupider take person than dorki
Fleks
Gamz is doing the max meme tier list?

dorki gunna put us in a tier
idk what i'm doing
maybe he knows about the spec

i just made offhand comment in here for people to say my name in chat and more people read it than i thought
usually i get a message that asks me to allow ads to continue watching but i just click on allow, dont allow it and continue watching

i dont think he knows most of them
I've never seen Gamz and Dorki in the same room. Must be the same person
Ah so then it'll be tettles
have the trust of the people
I’ll take tettles over dorki any day
you better get us reverted AND buffed
I’ll take respectable over dorki tbh
Oh is it trendy to hate Dorki now
crazy take
Just need someone who actually knows the class to speak on our behalf
Not hating on the dude but idk what kinda expertise he brings to the table after playing balance one tier
at least 2 recently
and in m+
i dont hate dorki but a lot of boomy changes were undocumented, for sure he doesnt know about them so, would like someone who knows 100% what happened and the 'fixes" etc
Pretty sure he's been raiding boomkin for as long as he's been known for being a bear player?
meanwhile unholy BLASTING in yodas keys
Im ready to be proved wrong
guys why are hunters at the bottom of that
With how much moonkin has changed, you need to be more than just someone who's played the spec. You need to be an active TC to give an informed opinion right now on moonkin it feels like
arent they 20% ahead of everyone
The most extreme sandbagging every seen
Abs cin
they got a 3% nerf, they are only simming 5.4-5.7 oh nyoooooooooooooooo how can they recover from this on raid
anti lock brake system? cin?
Fair and I do agree that there are people better qualified for this but people out here chatting as if Dorki wouldn't body them on any raid fight eyes closed is weird
Absolute cinema
Can't post pictures and I failed at typing the word 4 times so I gave up
Tbf Lock is one tier off, they're probably S, hunter is an actual crazy level of sandbagging
"the only reason we seem so good is because we do SO MUCH DAMAGE that other dps don't have time to do theirs"
Ok buddy we're watching you drop a nuke on a +19 pull
lmao
alright my guildies trolling
yea call dak
Gamz step up
high key
on god get dak on the desk
DKs are such sandbaggers man
Guys this is our benchmark
best dps dk is B tier with AMZ change? not a fuckin chance
Enh might be the only spec somehow worse than us
And they're melee
true
Wait is his Druid dorkibear on sargeras ?
dont think u want me on there
Must keep logs private or smth I guess
dev will hear some words from me
they did MM already
lol
dak unleashed live on max's stream
Gotta be the weirdest trend coming back lately but ya (private logging)
Wild Dak spotted
it for sures dak
i didnt break any rules
||the nickname is because i said clanker one time||
i got a day for a suicide joke 🙃
that
honestly yeah ban roulette was fun
click it
no action required
thats my dev
Wtf i made it on the wheel 
no shot the mage chatter is complaining about nerfs
shitposters unite
Woah its the big guy on twitter
I have a stockpile
"Theres no way they leave it like this " imagine being able to say that
Can you crosspost on bluesky pls
I tried that I got bored
No but you don't understand mages get changes because they are actually 9000iq and their feedback is just so well done and organized whereas every other class in the game is literally monkeys thats why mage is always strong dw no need to fact check
What was the consensus for balance?
havent done balance yet
Even just crossposting?
Oh.
Its ass
25% aura buff would not be enough to bring us in line
just man up and take your wow shitposts with a side of naziposting and crypto scams like god intended
Naziposting in the big 2025 is wild
its called twitter
Tweeter is for porn and nothing else
gamz typing in here when they should be practicing for maximum stream 
Make Max copy Daizr's stream layout
Add some subway surfer
Mage not talking anymore 
Oh nvm
one mage to the next
Idc about Preheat but holy shit have you guys ever felt a meme become reality
That was me when he was talking for the past 40mins
we need adept on the mic
My man is talking about how he was getting PIs alternated
Not happening
Mage's fault
i'm sick that day
He's comparing lock utility and ""funnel"" to arcane 
Druid also has stealth
That's useful sometimes !
Remember when all your rogues were pushing together in BfA and you needed someone to proc the events in Freehold
Who
a hunter
dont need a defensive if you cant be a target
@clever vigil would get on the mic and start yelling I THINK I SAW YOU IN MY SLEEP DARLING
screaming la dispute would get the point across significantly better than me trying to explain something
Are we done with mages
yeah
Surely there isn't a new one
hows balance rn?
lol
well how much time do you have?
dont waste ur time
oof
lol
i thought they were doing good in the ptr?
we were
sure wer
were*
That was the issue
Balance is great dont worry about anything 
Yeah like always
We were doing TOO good on the ptr
and now youre bad?
Yes
It’s cause everyone was reverse sandbagging on ptr
Most sane ex-boomkin player
can read the pin
is ec any good?
define good
EC is the only playable hero talent
not bad
no
you feel the weight of every press for sure
rip
its objectively bad casting long spells in raid.. its the reason frost has problems as well
its pretty bad around here huh? feels like the mm channel in the hunter discord lmao
mm complaining that they are bad LUL
dont listen to them
didnt MM get fuged?
still doing 10% more than balance
they got rightfully nerfed
still sims like 5.450.000 or some sht
MM is like what. 5.5?
if you saw the damage it was understandable
lol
good for mm
gonna be real the only reason i want to play druid is because its my only night elf and they look cool lol
sucks
Genuinely just play whatever you want
keep wanting to play it bud
It doesn't matter lol
theres so many classes i want to try next season '
Realistically, you can play whatever if you're not going for HOF
play them all actually
cant play them all without burning out in 2 weeks
If your not doing HOF or Title keys just play whatever is the most fun for you
Fuck tier lists
based
I don't pretend to play at a level where it matters or being good enough to play optimally on every spec so Imma just play what is fun
dont be mad when no key accepts tho
well
meter mini game is th eONLY thing im looking forward to
my top picks for classes to play next season are mage warlock hunter and priest
pally and dk under those 2
all of them seem pretty decent-good
warlock mage priest
I will play Ret and Balance, both are "bad" now
Can't go wrong with any of those 3
well yeah those 3 are top of the meta in m+ it looks like
but mage tends to just take locks spot
Yeah do NOT trust these mage rankings
ret looks fun af next season
with the hammer of light spam
I was born near the beach and this is more sand than I've ever seen
LMFAO
lol
bonk is fun
big ass hammer
warrior is another class i want to play mainly due to how cool my character looks lol
but warriors are down bad..
wonder how aug and dev evoker are
just got them to 80
aug has cool spells but i dont like the not doing personal damage thing
dev is good
druids/ret/elem
elem is good now post changes i thought
7, but 3 of those are rogue
on resto druid
dang i didnt even look did they completly change our tier set? it actually sounds much cooler then it was
or is it bad and boring and im just dumb
Huh
soma trying pretty hard right now
its bad and does zdps
2nd
i'll get banned in max stream for gamz
dang the idea of it sounded cool
read pin
soma says brick who?
based
Dryad Starsurge damage buffed by 1100%
Dryad Starfall damage buffed by 700%
is that not good artic? what am i missing
i truly am slow in the head
How much is
well sure that is good
True
read the bottom part of that
0x1100
check 4 set
1100% of 0 is still 0
and the 4pc was nerfed heavy
4pc
Dryads Favor cap is reduced from 25x spell power (intellect) to 6x spell power (intellect)
The damage attributed to the cap is now 2% reduced from 3%
@fiery veldt
hmm i guess id have to know what it was b4 or wat favor is so ill just take yalls wrd for it
its crazy how everyone called the people are gunna see the 1100% and say wtf are we complaining about
Keep in mind boomkin was already bottom of the bottom tier before that
the cap was 3.2m, its now like 768k
not bottom
I will say it
this guy cares more about rogue than I care about anything in my life and it's not particularly close
not wat is was before artic i meant more idk what dryads favor does sry
LMAO
Shinding is actually a good addition to the retail community
well let say we were doing 80 mil surges, now its 25 mil
Kinda weird that he comes from classic but
@meager storm is that bad? 25 mill sounds giga
yea shindigg is cool, done some ptr testing with him
calcualtes ur damage done in 10 seconds then takes 3% of that capped to 25x (now 6x) of ur int
it is not giga
@lofty depot ahh
which is this basically
set is exactly the same, just weaker and weaker with every patch.
abdicate
So i get mostly what ur saying but even then 25 mill seems like a lot i guess ive never payed attention to my max surges or wat it shuld be next season
25 is double a glacial spike
Hey now, it has barely less interaction than KOTG by itself
and u get 10 of them in a sim.. vs 50 casts as a frost mage
Kotg has alot of interaction
i think theyre just scared we delete mobs :/
not sure what you mean
Can't have the mage lose their target :/
It has more interaction than EC
I was memeing, but realistically beyond press trees then cast fillers whats the interaction
Trees conboke
Only difference compared to before KOTG existed is that we just didn't cast trees
Big tree damage amp
lol you tired of brick?>
Dude I'm bad with names idk what most of these are besides control
the entire loop is around your treants for their 24% dmg amp. Your CDs are impacted a ton due to "CDR" giving you different and sometimes unique line ups you otherwise cannot do
KOTG has a lot of interaction but most of it is put into CD planning
gamz have you been asked to boomkin yet
nah I haven't been asked for shit
Again, I was mostly memeing
check your spam lol
i am staying up waiting for whoever is gonna bitch about moonkin
I don't agree but it's 5am am not gonna debate this
yeah lowkey i just wanna hear whoever on boomkin
Max would not show up in my spam folder (cause i'm in his after DMing him 7 hours ago)
L ragebait
I swear we've gone through 3 or 4 ad breaks with this guy. Man is passionate about rogue
not to be negative but yeah bro is saying a lot.
good guy though

W shindig
The bar is set for your intervention in 2min
W Shindig
i think the thing is
Youtube premium my man. No ads ever on every streamer
I'm poor
weve been yapping for 4.5 hours waiting to get trolled by dorki
hi poor
Dorki about to join the call and say fuck boomkin why does anyone play this class
the guy who no one knew played boomy until like 8 months ago?
surely

I Trust in Dorki to overinflate us and say we are goated
Hello toyoda32
get dwilkz on the microphone
idk what yoou talking about
dorki gonna pull up the receipts about the guardian bug for big dam
"now that thats fixed boomkin is fine"
i love dwilkz, but gamz >
Oi my #1
true
Why he even asking dorki
wilkz on the mic would go hard
Wilkz would go hard
max saving the best for last
ok tettles for boomy
Sjelune is r1 IO score, get Sjele on for boomkin
he can save us
surely
tettles will represent us i think
please generational dooming
we need it tettles
Tettles dooming will make everyone think we are doing good
tag team. tettles gamz vs max

^
We need a fresh name
it will not be taken seriously if tettles hops in
we need gamz the voice of reason
It won’t be taken seriously anyway
Who even is a respected boomkin
naguura
Aspect is half insane
gamz
None
trick question
Adeptxo
lorgok
im fighting the good fight in max's chat
Ya but then incels? Ig we don't care about them
shes on vacation
Blizzard nerfed Keeper so Naguura got on her bike and just started pedaling
Surely awakege
blizzard nerfing keeper because naguura asked them why boomkin was bad during the interview
ngl does she even play anymore? i have seen her doing more irl
What would she stream wow for rn
tier is over what u want her to do
she more irl ish now
i just mean even after the tier started
She's also probably most likely preping for RWF casting
i remember her doing some bike tours or something
it was cool
but i thought she just quit
Naguura is always live when I wake up and watching her irl stuff is always a good vibe
i think she just pivoting a bit off wow to irl and those irl streams have been pretty chill
she did a 14 priory
tbh her educational m+ content this season has been peak
exactly
Ngl I think it's a weird comparison to make, there are more iconic casters, those 2 just happen to both be women
well it's a presenter and not a caster
but yeah sure
but calling her WoW's Dash would be weird cause nobody knows who Dash is?
And no one is CaptainFlowers
Would non-league players know who Sjokz is
yeah I think so
Imagine getting your tier set fixed lol
Is that the french girl
damn
boomkin rn is kinda like old skarner
maybe were all captainflowers

somehow
Okay after like 4 hours we're nearly to the boomkin section of Max's community tier list stream
she was a criminal in austria today
for reals
tettles about to take the grand stage once they finish talking about elemental shaman
in tettles we trust
who is we
take a shot when tettles brings up his wowhead guide
lol
Tettles show cat on stream, might get us pitty points
Max has about 15,000 between youtube and twitch watching this stream
Take a shot for every single Sandbagging comment in Max's twitch chat when boomkin is up. Your not waking up till Boomkin is good
so lets go tettles, time to save the spec with a convincing argument
Ok but then what do I do when he fixes his hair
take another shot
Tettles has mastered the art of spellqueueing fixing his hair between his casts
I'll see y'all in hell
tettles is reading this while fixing his hair
im already drunk
cmon tettles dont mess this up
GG's boys
@wicked shuttle you got this
lol
We aren't going to be good till Next expansion
anyone else need one
does anyone have the list of all bis items somewhere? i want to equip my ptr char to test
Log into a mage
Tettles laughing like he is the fucking joker lmao
hes crashing out
this is not generational dooming
everything gets scaled if ur doing m+
but just equip some gear and test it
Tettles is losing it
CALL THEM OUT TETTLES
Haha
Yes
ok thanks, i thought someone would know best trinket and weapon
5.2 with pi?
They have a bug.
Why he lying
Yeah spamming starfire would be a great point
ec in raid xd
guys sorry for being an absolute pleb but where is tettles streaming atm, i just joined
Good luck standing still EVER
maximum* on youtube
appreciate it chief
He should have talked about kotg simming for 4.7
Max stream
Max is acting like he doesnt believe tettles
"boomkin next to MM" yeah bro that MM placement is criminal we know
lol
yeah tettles flopped
it should've been gamz
he went in there too happy, too positive
I can appreciate not being mega doomer #2187, he defined its bad
lol
LMAO
CALL THEM OUT
damn they all think we we are good
lol we got the crybaby tag
I love Tettles
They see a balance Druid outperforming them and think that we are the problem when they don’t even know how to play the game
@fleks
TETTLES YES
GO OFF KING
hahaha
nvm we're back
we're so barrack
dammnnn
So back
holyyyyyyyy
TETTLES IS COOKING
Guys we might need to move to another discord
Man, he's cooking ROFL
rip my boi
boys
boutta to egt balance chat banned from the disc LUL
swap the feral tab its straight comedy
4% starsurge buff incomng 
KING
everyone please be sure to thank tettles
im gonna get banned in max's channel if i tell his viewers what i think about them
same
i think i am catching that bullet in 10 seconds
do it coward
i almost got banned 30 minutes ago tbh
do it cowaaard
max used to joke about disliking moonkins and his chat took it and ran with it, the hate is so weird
Nah nah
it's SO forced
Is the spec actually as doomed as he was saying lol
Fleks
No, it's worse
yes
close
Was the one that started this shit
apoparently we are sandbaggers and whiny about sucking but also nobody who is anybody in here actually cares about m+
I’m trying to tell my RL that I don’t want to waste the time gearing it for .2 and he’s saying not to take it serious lol
we all knew that was happening
Tettles sounded legit
Also it's just a coincidence that all rwf boomkin players are now devoker mains
I couldn't watch, what did tettles say
tettles dropped the bal;l tbh
true better panic fotm reroll 2 weeks before season
he didnt even make an argument he just laughed the whole time
u could likely be fine just like this tier where they aura buffed it after rwf
It’s an alt so it doesn’t matter either way
what does an aura buff even do atp
makes the 2.4s starfire do big fuck dam
make the numby go up
well, it started with kyrian bait. Then iirc we didn't have venth cooked well before sanctum, so ppl were on the fence between NF and venth, but venth ended up being OP so ppl thought we sandbagged. Then there was venth players who died alot, so that got memed on. I think it was mostly justified from other's PoV
I don’t want to waste the time on a spec that won’t get played is the point lol
solidifies EC in raid
but from then it's just been hate for the sake of it
They won't aura buff us
I’m one of our flex players
i mean a lot of us play it regardless
bro it's been YEARS
SL Boomie hate was justified
60% of the viewers stopped listening after "boomkin was the most broken thing in the game, moreso than venthyr"
and or paly other classes then play boomkin later
youre talking about 3 expansions ago like please
And assume that's true now
They'll buff Full Moon by like 2000% and make our gameplay worse
another 15% to goldrinn's
yea but it was covid so everyone remembers the stress
Finally someone spoke some truth about those feral players
Buff Starfire, Buff Full Moon, Make Full moon cast time longer. We are saved
Reworked Astral Communion
we need either a reversal of these last nerfs or a rework of the 4p
yea but it was multiple things stacked back to back. Ppl have a hard time dropping a pattern
but what are the chances we will get anything before s3 starts
and a rework aint happening over the weekend
so revert
ppl are finally starting to drop it because our current pattern is 💩
ec in raid is CRIMINAL
Ctrl + Z that shit right quick
Better to laugh than complain and cry 😅
He got the point across and wasn't painful to watch.
Good vibes always win
i love not moving while i cast for 2.4 seconds

just blink
o wait, wrong class
those are not the only 2 options you know that right
Tettles still saying 5.2m even though he has PI on in that sim
True. One of my regular moonkin haters finally acknowledged that blizzard hates us
Simply don’t play Druid
Dw you'll move plenty in Dornogal on your mount

no he needed to teach the coconut brained hivemind WHY we're bad
and he didnt
max also didn't want to spend time yapping
i mean i am probably not gonna get benched im just looking out for you guys
ignore the rogue guys talking for like 30 minutes
max let the rogue yap for an hour
tettles was operating on a small window. max was losing the will to stay awake
can you dm my raid lead?
i've seen your parses
Does your guild get HOF? If not just play better
Anw o7 guys, I'll be off to bed then practicing Aff in case demo/destro are only A- tier on my new main
god speed
that hurted may feelings
i cannot do miracles
stop that
lol
there may have been a blue.... or two. but like... shit happens you know
i got a green
Big
go ahead. laugh
What difficulty
M
80s pass the vibe
i need more positive people like you in my life
be my friend
Big viber
see that wasnt so bad
enmithy thinks we suck
We sharing parses
we do







