I still hold out hope
That they are gonna post an “Ooopsie. Intern went ahead with the post before confirming. These changes not going through”
#balance
ionic oak
elder remnant
ur dumb
meager storm
i think a max mod is trying to ragebait
elder remnant
but i like the naivety
lofty depot
it is real
clever vigil
I was taking a nap man what happened
lofty depot
they nerfed the tier set and gave them a not enough
lofty depot
I was taking a nap man what happened
read pin
ionic oak
Oh adept finna learn
clever vigil
I knew the answer and I still went to read
ionic oak
Lol
clever vigil
how do i play frost mage
ionic oak
Im going to try and learn something in a week
Im old bro. I aint got it like that no more
lofty depot
evoker ezpz
ionic oak
Yeah. Thats what I was thinking of picking up
Break glass in case of emergency
Type shit
cloud lion
Now for sure i can sit on bench with our ret pala
normal pilot
just use the one button macro
meager storm
hear me out
this just for sure just a bad dream
i will go to sleep
when i wake up
this never happened
worldly plume
pog
merry ibex
Look at it this way guys, with how long the cast time of starfire is you can just play one button rotaion and you wont even notice the penalty
worldly plume
gg
ionic oak
I wont notice it cuz I’ll never finish a cast. Damn you swirlies…. Dammmnnn you
timber grove
standing in all the mechanics now
meager storm
dwilkz maining league after this
elder remnant
the dev's humiliation kink clearly wasn't sated enough
ionic oak
So what yall gonna play if this goes live
worldly plume
just go mage u are fine every season
lofty depot
type shit
night gulch
i'm going to play bench simulator
ionic oak
Actually a lil break wouldnt be the death of me
elder remnant
So what yall gonna play if this goes live
ionic oak
Sometimes i do miss kitty. Sometimes
elder remnant
@lofty depot
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296>
eternal zealot
hi friends, is there a raid elune's chosen talent build anywhere?
stiff spear
so boomy dead s3
lofty depot
hi friends, is there a raid elune's chosen talent build anywhere?
probablyt something like that
lofty depot
Were we really ever alive?
yes
eternal zealot
probablyt something like that
thank you! ❤️
chrome sable
Why would you do that to yourself
ionic oak
If you stay boomie. Why would you do that to yourself
chrome sable
wym i high roll and i wont feel the last nerf they had
Or you low roll and suddenly boomie is looking good
ionic oak
Everyone leave
So they revert and we come back
exotic perch
you know boomkin does look good when you play with shitty players
chrome sable
Glhf praying for a 10% proc on your aimed shot and then a 50% proc on said proc
chrome sable
you know boomkin does look good when you play with shitty players
??
chrome sable
You could say that about any class in the game tho
ionic oak
It was meant to be a funny but yeah
lucid olive
Made me look so good
lofty depot
this fuck didnt go to sleep
lucid olive
I tried
chrome sable
Sleepless nights over boomkin death
ionic oak
Too mad to sleep
I feel that
exotic perch
lmao
ionic oak
Sure
exotic perch
elunes chosen is one of the worst hero trees in the game
lucid olive
Yeah a big WhythefuckdoIbotherloggingin
exotic perch
just like keeper is also one of the worst
chrome sable
Keeper is 100% worse
exotic perch
get ready to spam starfire all tier
chrome sable
One is 2 button whatever meh
ionic oak
The mans likes elunes. Let him like elunes
exotic perch
you mean anti bm
lucid olive
BM doesn't have 2 sec casts
exotic perch
starfire is a long ass cast lmao
ionic oak
Boomie to MM no?
lofty depot
Boomie to MM no?
or frost mage
ionic oak
I meant MM with their long cast
Is what boomie is with EC
Sit still cast. Move/cancel cast… big rip
ionic oak
or frost mage
Oh talk dirty to me
lofty depot
glacial kinda long cast
lucid olive
Ok just shimmer
chrome sable
Who wants to reroll havoc
lucid olive
That spec bangs idk
Played it a ton as an alt this season
Before turbo boost came out and ruined the game
chrome sable
That first non true shot aimed shot cast gonna hit like a bus
meager storm
brother i have played mm since i started playing this game
idk if u are ragebaiting or regarded
but i think its both
anyways
chrome sable
idk if u are ragebaiting or regarded
lofty depot
Ok just shimmer
frost plays icy floes
chrome sable
brother i have played mm since i started playing this game
I main the class 
tropic pollen
Dumb question: In the m+ build, in single target especially, when Starlord falls off in the second half of an eclipse, is it better to spend the astral power and start restacking it, or save the astral power to pool for boat?
lofty depot
u surge to get starlord
tropic pollen
So prioritize starlord over boat, got it. Thanks.
lofty depot
So prioritize starlord over boat, got it. Thanks.
more of ur st damage comes from starfire
but nonetheless its not really a chosing to not use boat
its u want to get starlord up
tropic pollen
Makes sense.
ionic oak
Dont listen to him. Hes a mage
lofty depot
all of u will be mages by aug 5
ionic oak
I can neither confirm nor deny
lofty depot
hmm wowhead using picture of balance for the one button rotation
jaunty blaze
Nah i have to press only 1 button on boomie and chill
trim estuary
Where my shadow priest rerollers at?
eager raft
hmm wowhead using picture of balance for the one button rotation
y r u amogus
lofty depot
well im a mage amoung boomkins
eager raft
same
civic junco
Just tested this on PTR. It's a healer trinket, but instant regrowth proc it for balance.
Very easy to send it before every trees window
jaunty blaze
Crazy
jaunty blaze
Hi
clear crow
Is boomie as dead as last week, when u guys were telling everyone its shit and it was simming 5.7M ?
loud kettle
hey cutie
lofty depot
who was saying it was shit
clear crow
everyone on earth
lofty depot
also it wasnt simming 5.7
lofty depot
everyone on earth
objectively wrong
clear crow
objectively wrong
jaunty blaze
Insane how one fake sim spreads like that
normal pilot
not really
loud kettle
expected really
jaunty blaze
Ppl just want to see what they like to see
normal pilot
also consider your audience
wow players are ppl that are playing wow
set your expectations
loud kettle
i linked a 10mil sim and people asked if feral was op
jaunty blaze
Real
low shale
civic junco
Real
gentle patio
Ppl just want to see what they like to see
I like seeing you >.<
jaunty blaze
😳
ionic oak
Wahhhh. The sims were fake? Nahhhh
dawn warren
So Boomie not dead? 😏
gentle patio
No, just terminal
jaunty blaze
There is always cope
digital berry
We’re middle of the pack stop spreading misinformation
Is the spec fun? Fuck no, but we’re not complete garbage
wild dune
gentle patio
Middle of the pack but there are 25 dps specs, so thats ~13 specs better than us and there is only place for 14 dps in a raid.
digital berry
Unless you’re in rwf, skill trumps spec. If you can’t beat blue And green parsing demo locks that’s a skill issue
Not to mention if you remove the outliers the % diff between the middle of the pack classes is not really meaningful
gentle patio
We're fine
cloud plover
We're fine
you're fine
gentle patio
cloud plover
ionic oak
I believe Emnithy
lofty depot
u shouldnt
ionic oak
Level headed
We need more of that
ionic oak
In game
timber grove
some pretty serious cope imo
ionic oak
Hi sweetie. Eat your veggies
gentle patio
Yum yum. Eat em up
digital berry
u shouldnt
Who are you
ionic oak
Oh here we go
lofty depot
We’re middle of the pack stop spreading misinformation
specifically this statement isnt true
timber grove
hes counting tanks and healers
digital berry
Well this season we ended the season dead last so anything above that is an improvement
lofty depot
well thats not true either
hollow mist
<:Wink:779458207517114408>
good rizz
digital berry
I need to start saving screenshots
But I definitely saw a wclogs graph with us dead last in the 95 th percentile
ionic oak
He saw the pin post right?
lofty depot
But I definitely saw a wclogs graph with us dead last in the 95 th percentile
ud be wrong, cuz frost mage is that
digital berry
He saw the pin post right?
Nope
But also, how do those buffs kill the tier set in all content in confused
The 4p nerfs ?
ionic oak
Oh you missed a nice chat
lofty depot
yes?
cloud plover
But also, how do those buffs kill the tier set in all content in confused
nerf to max sp and dmg conversion = bad I guess
digital berry
So what are we ec in raid ?
night gulch
But also, how do those buffs kill the tier set in all content in confused
14% nerf put keeper behind ec
so you just play ec
lofty depot
So what are we ec in raid ?
yes?
digital berry
Oh I didn’t read the full pin
hollow mist
finally I can ec
we love ec c:
lofty depot
Oh I didn’t read the full pin
w
cloud plover
we love ec c:
do u even know it.
hollow mist
do u even know it.
yes ofc
digital berry
Well I guess blizzard really doesn’t want balance to exist as a spec, why don’t they just remove it or smth
night gulch
do u even know it.
press starfire, get mechanic, cancel cast, reroll to a better class
hollow mist
do you really
on guardian :)
digital berry
What was even the point
ionic oak
We fine
cloud plover
press starfire, get mechanic, cancel cast, reroll to a better class
planning around movement is fun
ionic oak
There’s still hope. Dont give up
cloud plover
on guardian :)
yeah so u don't + u hate me
clever ibex
Funny how they nerf KOTG even more even after it was beaten to death
cloud plover
There’s still hope. Dont give up
the hope is they keep ec the best thing
digital berry
Puppy I’m this close to blocking you 
ionic oak
Lol
clever ibex
EC still going to be pretty bottom of the barrel compared to other dps in raid (and m+) tho, right?
timber grove
if EC is the pick I honestly hope im just on the bench haha
hollow mist
yeah so u don't + u hate me
I've played it in pvp + I love you get cherished loser!!
digital berry
EC still going to be pretty bottom of the barrel compared to other dps in raid (...
Yeah we’re actually unplayable
Especially since sim dps is not obtainable in raid
ionic oak
So anyways. I was casting starfire and a swirly appeared under and I said. F that. Ima finish this cast…. I didnt finish it. And i died
lofty depot
EC still going to be pretty bottom of the barrel compared to other dps in raid (...
well, theyll aura buff us by w.e. it is 10%
so it goes from 5.1 to 5.6
woo
digital berry
Ec in raid
cloud plover
all I'm saying
digital berry
Is anathema
ionic oak
We going melee gang
digital berry
clever ibex
well, theyll aura buff us by w.e. it is 10%
Yeah but EC feels shit in ST 🥲
ionic oak
Whats st?
cloud plover
Yeah but EC feels shit in ST 🥲
No
lofty depot
im casting glacial spike
ionic oak
Im a boomkin. Idk what st is
meager storm
digital berry
Ec feels like shit in m+ too cause it doesn’t do dmg
ionic oak
Dev is def the play.
lofty depot
devs with an s?
cloud plover
starfire. starfire!
ionic oak
Its 1 intern bro. Leave him alone
night gulch
walmart worker doing a part time as dev
class balance outsourced to chatgpt
digital berry
Nah fire his ass
spice forum
EC GANG
ionic oak
They trying their best
meager storm
digital berry
Mm didn’t get nerfed while topping all meters
We get a 14% nerf while being garbanzo
night gulch
They trying their best
they could try harder or like find a different role
jaunty blaze
https://tenor.com/view/moonkin-goosy-hello-wow-world-of-warcraft-gif-16900542045...
HELP HIM
clever ibex
Mm didn’t get nerfed while topping all meters
They did tho?
jaunty blaze
He is crying
digital berry
They did tho?
Was it meaningful ?
ionic oak
Yeah they got touched up
lofty depot
i feel like emnithy just says things
tulip snow
it's cause tettles did the most damage in a dungeon once
digital berry
i feel like emnithy just says things
Its 2 am and I have a tummy ache
night gulch
it's cause tettles did the most damage in a dungeon once
probably why we got nerfed tbh grr
ionic oak
I miss the level headed emnithy. The one before reading pins
digital berry
I was so positive and good vibes back then
hollow mist
EC GANG
hollow mist
playing boomkin does that to u I fear
digital berry
I am reformed now
Mainly because I’m chuck full of copium that the changes will get reversed once people start bitching
cloud plover
double down on it and buff ec
night gulch
Mainly because I’m chuck full of copium that the changes will get reversed once ...
wdym we've been bitching
they dont care
digital berry
This round of nerfs is outrageous tho
lofty depot
weve been bitching?
night gulch
i have been
lofty depot
they dont read discord
digital berry
If only we had an advocate like Kalamazi
lofty depot
If only we had an advocate like Kalamazi
i told tettles :/
ionic oak
Mainly because I’m chuck full of copium that the changes will get reversed once ...
See whats what im saying. Theres still hope. Dont give up
digital berry
i told tettles :/
Tettles has probably already jumped ship
ionic oak
He did
Blud said dev prolly
digital berry
Not surprised
ionic oak
Thats what he gets for making me go kyrian
digital berry
I just might gear up an evoker just in case
cloud plover
wonder what devs devs are up to
frigid yoke
They buffed 2set vut nerfed 4set again hmm
cloud plover
hmm
ionic oak
Blasting with that 1200%
ionic oak
The delves won’t know what hit them
cloud plover
maybe they want boomie pet spec
lofty depot
the herbalists are gonna blast
digital berry
They buffed 2set vut nerfed 4set again hmm
They didn’t nerf 4p they gutted it beyond recognition
frigid yoke
Ye it does barely anny dmg it seems
lofty depot
i was critting for like 20m on dummy
jaunty blaze
From 300 million to less than on live
digital berry
That’s like a single chaos bolt
lofty depot
glacial spike hits for like 12m avg
digital berry
Reading up on evoker rotation as we speak
lofty depot
i mean we were never keeping 300m
tulip snow
maybe they just want us to be the gathering alt again
digital berry
Whoever is in charge of balance Druid is just a hater there’s no denying it at this point
jaunty blaze
If only ec was fun to play
digital berry
Its OK in m+
cloud plover
if u don't think so u might just hate casters
digital berry
In raid ? God no
cloud plover
do u play with shadowburn
loud kettle
chaos bolt owns
ionic oak
Personally i like the part where i cast two wrath and then starfire… for forever. And then just repeat
jaunty blaze
Sometimes
cloud plover
fake caster
loud kettle
Spell effects matter
digital berry
Personally i like the part where i cast two wrath and then starfire… for forever...
You mean you like the part when you constantly have to choose between cancelling a cast or eating a swirly
And the cast does peanuts for dmg anyway
ionic oak
No brainer. Eat the swirly
lofty depot
Spell effects matter
u mena the green firey ones or?
loud kettle
You can yea
jaunty blaze
Affli is the same like malefic rupture does nothing effect wise too
loud kettle
u mena the green firey ones or?
I just mean chaos bolt vs starfire
cloud plover
Cant you change the fire color?
it's tedious tho
jaunty blaze
You do damage but you dont feel it
lofty depot
dot spec but the dots do no damage
loud kettle
Starfall/shooting stars look epic
lofty depot
theyre just amplifiers
digital berry
Starfall/shooting stars look epic
Hard agree
cloud plover
dot spec but the dots do no damage
majority of them are that unfortunately
wish it wasn't
digital berry
Balancing smth like dots must be hard
If they did too much dmg it would be too easy
ionic oak
Dotting things so you can do damage to them but then not do damage anyways
Hells yeah
jaunty blaze
Maintain debuff on target minigame so your spender does less damage than other classes without having to do that
digital berry
Imagine pressing starsurge and it actually did dmg
I wonder how that life would look like
An alternate universe
delicate perch
Dotting things so you can do damage to them but then not do damage anyways
Hells...
Welcome to balance
autumn raven
morning fam, what happened tonight?
frigid yoke
2zet buffed 4set gone
autumn raven
aight, thanks god that my evoker is geared
ionic oak
We’ll be fine yall believe.
strong bronze
Wait am i tweaking or does the wowhead article say the dryad casts starsurge at 360 and starfall at 800% effectivnes?
ionic oak
aight, thanks god that my evoker is geared
Oh you dont know what happened to evoker?
jaunty blaze
It does
autumn raven
Oh you dont know what happened to evoker?
what
autumn raven
oh I was about to jump from my window
strong bronze
So thats just buffing dryad dmg on 2 set
jaunty blaze
Yes
jaunty cliff
guys what means oce?
loud kettle
Usually refers to oceanic servers
prisma basalt
I cant get it why they fuck Balance like this
jaunty cliff
Usually refers to oceanic servers
ty
loud kettle
Yea...
cloud plover
I want to skull react so badly
trim ether
EC must be garbonzo in raid, am I right?
trim ether
Never progged with it
jaunty blaze
💀
ionic oak
Intern mistake
cloud plover
EC must be garbonzo in raid, am I right?
💀
ionic oak
EC must be garbonzo in raid, am I right?
Depends who you ask. If you ask the sane boomkins. Yes. Garbo. If you ask puppy. Dream come true
trim ether
I meant damage wise
ionic oak
Better than keeper
trim ether
Playstyle is omegalul no doubts
jaunty blaze
rn it sims better
strong bronze
This is pre tier set changes or after?
trim ether
rn it sims better
Have a link?
jaunty blaze
Can check tettles twitter post
cloud plover
tortles totter
past tide
💀
harsh jungle
How r we liking the tier set changes?
obsidian jetty
📉
dire osprey
what the fuck 4p is x6?
jaunty blaze
How do you like 12% nerfs
dire osprey
what are they doing over there
dire osprey
already know theres gonna be clowns shouting WTF boomy 800% buff?????
jaunty blaze
We are just sandbagging is all
dire osprey
needs another 12% nerf realistically
jaunty blaze
Real
dire osprey
TRUE
olive trout
I would like to know from where they take info for nerf smth, is bored to get nerfed based on M+ and then being useless on raid because we do less dmg than tanks
Hopefully 1 day they will make m+ content and raid separated so they stop nerfing boomie just bc we are good in aoe
obsidian jetty
Had nothin to do with m+
2p was poop, 4p was very strong, so they changed the numbers
delicate perch
They seen boomkins finally beating tanks and as the true heroes they are, Blizz put a stop to it.
olive trout
2p was poop, 4p was very strong, so they changed the numbers
Glacial spikes from frost are 20-25M hit and u can cast like 200 per combat, now our tier hit 25-30M every cd so like 6-8 per combat
Idk how thats op
delicate perch
Seems fine to me
crisp badger
guys, tier sets got buffed, are we so back????? 
obsidian jetty
Idk how thats op
it was not 25-30m yesterday lol. It's not OP now because they gutted it
cloud plover
guys, tier sets got buffed, are we so back????? <:mrowing:1300216882938515486>
we're so back (ec in all content hype)
dire osprey
guys, tier sets got buffed, are we so back????? <:mrowing:1300216882938515486>
yea 800% buff!!!!!!!
crisp badger
cloud plover
best thing to have ever happened to bumkin
dire osprey
i loooove spamming starfire
dire osprey
more netflix uptime during prog
delicate perch
Can’t wait to be able to use one button in raid
muted zephyr
they nerfed boomy again?
muted zephyr
cobalt flare
muted zephyr
so it was broken, they gutted tierset, then aurabuffed it by 8% and then nerfed it again?
jaunty blaze
Yes
muted zephyr
great, thanks
near raven
I'm afraid I will actually have to play resto this tier :/
azure solar
good job blizz ruined a fun tier set ....secret nerfs?
crisp badger
i wish they released the stats that motivated the buffs and nerfs
obsidian jetty
our 4p was somewhere around a 18-25% dps increase, our 2p was somewhere under 2%
harsh jungle
i wish they released the stats that motivated the buffs and nerfs
To much fun
deft quiver
welp, it was a pleasure guys
time to reroll
obsidian jetty
there wasn't much reason to make it 6x, but it's clear they wanted to bring the power to a different spot
crisp badger
what's everyone's back up
livid jay
i wish they released the stats that motivated the buffs and nerfs
they probably thought the spec was too easy compared to combos in fighter games 
🎣
crisp badger
they probably thought the spec was too easy compared to combos in fighter games ...
true 
jaunty blaze
Oh no not again
livid jay
yea lets not 😄
jaunty blaze
gz
crisp badger
even casual brainless idiots like me can get CE 
dire osprey
there wasn't much reason to make it 6x, but it's clear they wanted to bring the ...
they defo brough it to a diff spot
Narnia that is
then closed the door
quiet drift
there wasn't much reason to make it 6x, but it's clear they wanted to bring the ...
Were getting 2000x modifier on the Dryad starfall soon
Tactical nuke
harsh jungle
Lol
livid jay
so what exactly was the timeline of these nerfs cause i was on vacation and it seems to have gone from moonkin good to moonkin trash like 2 weeks ago?
tardy fiber
Bros I hope blizz rework boomies in midnight, so it always plays like EC. Officially murder the spec
harsh jungle
so what exactly was the timeline of these nerfs cause i was on vacation and it s...
Yes they fucked the tier set completely
fossil crypt
so what exactly was the timeline of these nerfs cause i was on vacation and it s...
They fixed a bug with the tierset that made them do too much dmg
crisp badger
isn't the concensus that it wasn't a bug
livid jay
Yea they fixed that and then it was just badly tuned but then they nerfed it again like 3x or what?
obsidian jetty
so what exactly was the timeline of these nerfs cause i was on vacation and it s...
set was capped at 50% of hp, then they swapped it to 50x int, but it wasn't actually 50x it was 25x. Then today they swapped it to 6x int
livid jay
gg
twin lotus
I am so excited for the buffs tomorrow
harsh jungle
Where do blizzard find these fucking clowns and then hire them
livid jay
I am so excited for the buffs tomorrow
profile pic checks out
obsidian jetty
I expect they will aura buff us, but that won't really do much other than make EC further ahead. Most ppl don't wana play EC
twin lotus
WAIT THEY FREAKING NERFED IT MORE
fossil crypt
meager storm
twin lotus
brothers, as a druid i will go into slumber beneath the canopy of the wonderful dreamgrove
I will be fighting the emerald nightmare
visual pasture
I am trying really hard to get excited about being a healer but can't: S
royal zenith
set was capped at 50% of hp, then they swapped it to 50x int, but it wasn't actu...
it gets more unreal the more times you read it
insane
strong bronze
fossil crypt
royal zenith
(that's really good acting by the bird btw ngl)
strong bronze
Welp guess my healers have to heal , cant be cancelling them fat starfire casts
frigid yoke
So the tier set tuning for balance is it a win or lose in terms of raw numbers
royal zenith
?
strong bronze
Fat L
fossil crypt
Look at the bird playing dead
meager storm
dire osprey
WAIT THEY FREAKING NERFED IT MORE
he didn't know when posting the "buffs tomorrow" thing 
makes it even funnier
fossil crypt
cope
dire osprey
15% aura buff for EC pog?
misty patrol
Wouldn’t them aura buffing us make us broken in m+?
dire osprey
think we have to be good first to become broken
misty patrol
We were always good in m+
strong bronze
Wouldn’t them aura buffing us make us broken in m+?
I aint got a problem with that
misty patrol
It’s a massive tuning issue
strong bronze
R druid is bugged anyway , i want my chicken to be good
dire osprey
tbf nothing is good when mm hunter and fdk are running around
strong bronze
Mm hunter is deadge aswell
misty patrol
Thought they hit both if those specs
twin lotus
idk how they managed to massace a set that was really really fun
strong bronze
Compared to what it was the first cycle
twin lotus
I love feeling like an arcane mage for a while
obsidian jetty
It’s a massive tuning issue
idk, you'd just buff the ST spells, or aura buff and nerf some aoe spells. Not that complex
frigid yoke
14 procent fucking nerf
meager storm
that doesnt even give us like 7%
frigid yoke
Are they mental
misty patrol
sudden panther
Just got my first toon lvled to 80 in The War Within, Any tips on how to get geared up quickly?
ionic oak
You really wanna gear a druid right now?
sudden panther
Why not?
meager storm
next patch is in 5 days
livid jay
You really wanna gear a druid right now?
it doesnt matter at all for casuals bro
obsidian jetty
Just got my first toon lvled to 80 in The War Within, Any tips on how to get gea...
undermine gear will get you started, doing world content there
sudden panther
I'm confused, why wouldn't I want to gear?
obsidian jetty
then new season stuff will be higher iL next week
sudden panther
Oh
obsidian jetty
they are memeing because we just got nerfed
sudden panther
Is there a better class to play?
obsidian jetty
eh, worry about what you want to play as a new player
can worry about what's good when you start doing actual end game grinder stuff
livid jay
What are you planning to do this season?
sudden panther
Just curious what's going to be meta for raiding etc
livid jay
Cause if its casual mythic plus and some raids here and there you will be 100% fine on moonkin
meager storm
well we cant know that before the season starts
livid jay
anybody who tells you the exact meta now is lying and making it up
warlock and mage looking good
as always
sudden panther
I have a Warlock at 70
livid jay
but honestly, play what you enjoy not whats the "meta"
i been playing moonkin for 6 years straight now and i almost always had fun and did enough damage to do all content i wanted
sudden panther
Should I just do dungeons to gear up?
livid jay
is this going to be your first char on max level?
obsidian jetty
idr what iL heroic dungeons and shit give, but undermine open world gear is likt 618 or something
that gear should be good enough for next week's open world content I'd think
which will be higher than that
livid jay
and do the delve quests for the belt
obsidian jetty
doing +8 delves will get you some gear as well, but will be hard on a fresh toon
sudden panther
How do I get the belt?
livid jay
obsidian jetty
ah yea, belt too
livid jay
he explains it at the start here
but besides that i think that video is for alts
not sure tho, probably some stuff in there that will help you
obsidian jetty
the cantrip ring is getting nerfed next patch, not sure if it's worth spending time on, but isn't that crazy of a grind if you do decide to grab it
delicate pawn
afaik the visions are also decent gear
delicate pawn
I think it gives quite a decent amount of champ track gear and some hero track
without doing mask runs
just baseline
crisp badger
hero without mask? oh damn
delicate pawn
the weapon you can buy from the vendor.
obsidian jetty
the weapon requires beating 5 mask I think. The hero one
maiden pasture
the cantrip ring is getting nerfed next patch, not sure if it's worth spending t...
Is it worse than a mythic ring on patch release?
obsidian jetty
probably, I will sim it when patch drops
iirc the mastery gem got cut in half
and it's close now in value, so probably just worse
jaunty blaze
Nope
obsidian jetty
the nightmare is when you woke up
livid jay
go back to sleep i'll wake you up when september ends
lucid olive
Wake me up when the expansion ends
little cove
lucid olive
I blame @royal zenith for always wanting a new build and new tuning
lucid olive
Max tier list tonight gonna be juicy
royal zenith
who's going to represent?
lucid olive
Apparently it's Dorki rating us.. wonder how tapped in he is..
meager storm
dorki save us
lucid olive
If he rips the "they were bugged and scaled with HP" I'm gonna freak out
meager storm
potent cargo
Fuck tier list just vibe
royal zenith
that's without doubt
crisp badger
Fuck tier list just vibe
distant oasis
i just want to do ST dmg plz ...
dire osprey
Tomorrow for sure 
jaunty blaze
Straight up dorking it
dire osprey
gearing all his druid alts for after he gets all druid specs buffed 
gilded wolf
Guess I can play osrs & classic entire prog again who woulda tunk
light seal
Poe1>last epoch>torchlight>D3>d2>poe2=D4
tawdry marlin
I think pinned message got it wrong, dryad Starfall dmg goes from 30% to 800% effectiveness, that's more like 2600% buff, not 700.
Is the 14% estimation based on 700 or 2600?
serene elk
we get buff?
bold heart
starfall was 100% effectiveness
serene elk
starfall buff ?
serene elk
nah don't havbe read
carmine vigil
i dont have read either man its okay
lucid olive
I think pinned message got it wrong, dryad Starfall dmg goes from 30% to 800% ef...
The numbers in the pin are correct for the aura values changing on each spell
meager storm
alright
serene elk
that why I ask
meager storm
i dont have read either man its okay
what we maining
league?
shyvanna jg?
rework when?
tawdry marlin
Ah so the note itself is wrong?
tawdry marlin
It should say from 100 to 800?
bold heart
Ah so the note itself is wrong?
the post is wrong and the implemented changes are wrong
nothing is right
go next expansion
jaunty blaze
😭
tawdry marlin
dire osprey
as usual
jaunty blaze
Surely it gets better next xpac
jagged thistle
so on a scale 1-10 how fucked are we?
bold heart
10
meager storm
the worst we have ever been ggs go next
jagged thistle
dire osprey
ive sworn to quit league but its looking really good rn...
jaunty blaze
It always looks good from the outside
jaunty blaze
Then you play it and its fucking misery
lucid olive
As opposed to moonkin that looks like misery, tastes like misery, smells like misery and feels like misery
Inside and out
jaunty blaze
I seem to be drawn to being miserable
lucid olive
You're so far on the doomer train you start chatting in here bro
That's final destination levels
distant oasis
from a WF raider yeah, but for the vaste majority of player its fine, were not gonna see boomy on twitch in 2 weeks thats all
pallid bay
log on guys, at the same ilvl you should just not equip 4pc if playing keeper
meager storm
from a WF raider yeah, but for the vaste majority of player its fine, were not g...
? brother its simming for 4.8 mil
thats as low as u can go
turbid peak
guys lets just play elunes chosen and have a good time
jaunty blaze
maiden pasture
log on guys, at the same ilvl you should just not equip 4pc if playing keeper
3.4?????????
dire osprey
diabolical
pallid bay
3.4?????????
its 684 ilvl tier comparison
pale swan
? brother its simming for 4.8 mil
That's lower than aug for sure
lucid olive
Classic Maya missing the point
pale swan
new tft set dropped 2 days ago
All moonkins playing tft next tier
bitter urchin
The set is quite fun
carmine vigil
no tft only shyvana jungle full clear
dire osprey
mute chat disable pings and grind jgl
real flax
they wanted the chicken dead this season its so obvious
tawdry oak
How long does it take to gear an alt to 680 ilvl atm
cloud plover
How long does it take to gear an alt to 680 ilvl atm
many keys
how long depends on how much u grind
real flax
How long does it take to gear an alt to 680 ilvl atm
u dont have time
tawdry oak
😢
real flax
to 680
stuck meadow
real flax
maybe 665-670
cloud plover
buy full mythic vip and spam keys I guess
dire osprey
heroic boost is like 50k at this point
get one of those
run normal raid
few m+, craft some shit
and u should be good to run m0s next week
rain pebble
I'm gearing my balance it hasn't been too bad PUG wise
livid jay
buy full mythic vip and spam keys I guess
u mean have a money printer
rain pebble
been going for 2 weeks or so and I think I got 674, gonna craft boots later
cloud plover
I'm a perfectionist when I play my balance druid everything's gotta be just right when I play it or I don't play it 😅
I don't care about spending millions if the items is definitely good until some boss or big drop
livid jay
you can get bis gear without spending any gold 😄
lucid olive
you can get bis gear without spending any gold 😄
No WoW is only a pay2win game man
Haven't you seen Asmongold videos
He talks about it whenever he isn't right wing grifting
livid jay
havent watched asmongold in like 4 years
last time i clicked his channel he was talking about immigrants and i insta turned it off
fossil hemlock
Anyone unironically watching Asmongold in 2025 should be detained
livid jay
No WoW is only a pay2win game man
i mean u kind of need to get gold somehow 😄
start of nerubar i looted the very rare mount from hc queen and one of our former raiders who is staff in a boosting community gave me 4 mil for it xD
now im back to 2 mil
so about 1.5 mil per tier?
(i dont gamble much)
fossil hemlock
How the fuck are you spending 1.5M per tier
dire osprey
start of nerubar i looted the very rare mount from hc queen and one of our forme...
4m lol
tbf someone offered me 2m gold for heroic house of cards during hc clear at the start of season
livid jay
How the fuck are you spending 1.5M per tier
idk, crafts, consumables, occassional gamba, not having any professions, ...
rain pebble
I got 10.4M and it goes up over time but not gambling or paying for boosts helps
livid jay
ah ye sometimes i buy a 200k hc boost for an alt or sth
dire osprey
whenever i create an alt i just buy it heroic boosts every week until its geared up and i can play it
fossil hemlock
Also I found a very tiny silver lining about playing EC
royal zenith
impossible
dire osprey
idk what else id do with my gold
fossil hemlock
If you cast starfire and queue up a surge, if you're lucky you can shoot out twin doggos
livid jay
AWWOOOOO
fossil hemlock
They go awooo and fly in a left and right arc
rain pebble
I'd rather let gold pile up than give it to boosters who spam so
livid jay
rmt'ing? 
dire osprey
not like theres a longboy to save gold for
livid jay
yea i gave up on boosting its so annoying
u sign up to a raidboost and u gotta be ready at that exact time but they dont lock in their damn roster until that time so u dont even know if youre taken
harsh jungle
Just buy wow tokens?
livid jay
my real life job is more time efficient at making gold xDDD
harsh jungle
my real life job is more time efficient at making gold xDDD
Exactly
dire osprey
true but not worth
i only spend gold when i have it
i am not gonna buy tokens to buy raid boosts
scenic plaza
The ptr hotfix to the tier set is new or old?
pale swan
it's funny how hunter got like 8 nerfs and it's still playable,but boomie got 2,but they were massive as the sun
lucid olive
it's funny how hunter got like 8 nerfs and it's still playable,but boomie got 2,...
Hunter has a better developer
scarlet tapir
hunter has a developer*
pale swan
Hunter has a better developer
😄
rotund sparrow
How am I supposed to sandbag if my spec is actually dogshit?
errant charm
u sign up to a raidboost and u gotta be ready at that exact time but they dont l...
You're boosting with the wrong leader then, I always tell people pretty much straight away if I want them or not
livid jay
where are u boosting?
my experience was from a couple years ago at xxxx so might be different now
royal zenith
dont think you want to talk about boosting communities in a public class discord
as they are still against tos
haughty sluice
We have been bottom DPS according to statistics in mythic raid two season in a row and they manage to nerf our single target spec to the point where it's worse than our m+ spec. good job
round field
time to log off until next xpac
haughty sluice
any of you guys play feral in ST and boomy in cleave fights? how do you go about leg/chest enchants early in the seasons when you don't have multiple gear pieces?
livid jay
if u gonna play feral in ST i would just play feral in cleave too
obsidian jetty
carry enchants around, extra gear swaps, or don't swap specs
haughty sluice
could play two druids as well
obsidian jetty
get 3 different items, or get 16 different items, your choice ig
haughty sluice
get 3 different items, or get 16 different items, your choice ig
double vault slots though
jaunty blaze
Just play a better class at that point
meager storm
haughty sluice
somebody has to provide vers buff
meager storm
resto
gilded wolf
Guardian and/or resto exists
haughty sluice
sadly, I am not able to gaslight fellow guildies into playing druid
gilded wolf
A certain warlock content creator keeps saying boomkin is fine and that you're just sandbagging so maybe you can gaslight some warlock mains
fossil hemlock
Warlocks are the inventors of sandbagging, never listen to them
heady sentinel
reroll time
Never
maiden garden
but theres no way they push this to live, surely changes on the way?
meager storm
fossil hemlock
The only changes we're actually guaranteed at the moment is 12.0
meager storm
my spec is kinda homeless
lucid olive
Balance Druid removed and the Moonkin models will be reused as statue decorations for your house in Midnight
They will even add a new functionality for the Moonkin model statue where you can throw darts at them
And if you make a staircase up to your 2nd floor you can right click and choose from a menu of 20 different ways on how you want to kick or shove them down
safe kite
but theres no way they push this to live, surely changes on the way?
Yea man, the store isn't that far and just getting milk shouldn't be taking this long, but maybe they are picking up cigarettes as well, should be home any second now.
rain pebble
And if you make a staircase up to your 2nd floor you can right click and choose ...
based
vital hound
Balance Druid removed and the Moonkin models will be reused as statue decoration...
LMAO
we're so fucked
dire osprey
We are fine (i am rerolling)
lofty depot
We are fine (I'm playing mage)
gilded wolf
We're fine (im playing osrs)
crisp topaz
We are fine (stuck because only druid in raid team)
rain pebble
Been prepping my balance alt for next season
jaunty blaze
We are fine ( suffering builds character)
calm bane
We are fine (stuck because only druid in raid team)
play resto.... thats what im doing
crisp topaz
I wish I could, trust me 
fossil hemlock
Yolo feral, what could go wrong
calm bane
yeah.... if u play feral like shit u might do more damage than balance at this point
crisp topaz
Feral is fine, melee makes me what to go full kurt cobain pov though
limpid nymph
I'm out of the loop, all the patch notes say is balance damage increased by 8% and yet apparently they have gone from a top DPS to the worst? Is it all just the tier set?
fossil hemlock
I'm out of the loop, all the patch notes say is balance damage increased by 8% a...
There were further changes that wasn't in blue post
meager storm
yes the tier set was doing like 70% of our dmg, it got nerfed serveral times, and now gutted on the last tuning cycle
crisp topaz
The keeper tierset started off as quite overtuned, they nerfed it to not be as egregious, and then gutted it making keeper completely useless
tired granite
And if you make a staircase up to your 2nd floor you can right click and choose ...
Wait you're cooking....
limpid nymph
I see, thank you.
royal zenith
Wait you're cooking....
dense steeple
where moonkin revert. i had a whole sleep
dire osprey
better get another one then
dense steeple
😦
cloud plover
Where are my EC fans
dire osprey
mental institution
rain pebble
I'm playing elune fuck trees
slender dragon
why blizzard doing vendeta against boomi?
rain pebble
every class discord comes with a free persecution complex
slender dragon
i play a bit everything on ptr actually and tbh boomi is one of the worst
and i've seen another 14% nerf tonight?
lofty depot
Love me a frog
slender dragon
wtf xd
lofty depot
Frogs are the best
rain pebble
francophiles be like
lofty depot
Nope hate them
hollow mist
every class discord comes with a free persecution complex
real af
nova ocean
I had this weird dream that last night blizzard killed moonkin for no reason
dire osprey
I had this weird dream that last night blizzard killed moonkin for no reason
CEO of warlocks needed a new pair of owlfur boots
nova ocean
O so it was a dream thank goodness
rain pebble
illegalize moonkins
jaunty blaze
Your dream came true
rain pebble
glyph of stars now baseline
jaunty blaze
Congrats
hollow mist
now ur talking hell yea
tawdry trellis
Yo... 8% is that helping us at all in PTR or are we still just as lackluster?
tawdry trellis
just checked pins looks like they're tweaking tier again making us dog water 🙁
lofty depot
So no, it's not helping us. We weren't lackluster.... We are now lackluster from undocumented changes
lucid olive
just checked pins looks like they're tweaking tier again making us dog water 🙁
they are tweaking for sure
tawdry trellis
fingers crossed.
lofty depot
More like cross the street off of the side that's burning up
"cross the street" in this context means reroll
sick torrent
Gents, do I assume that trinket + weapon combo will be bis next raid?
lucid olive
you can assume that
whether that turns out to be true
you will find out when you get there
they are still tuning trinkets
sick torrent
Thanks. Wondering if I should recraft Ascension to something else
lucid olive
and last i checked there were some m+ options that were competitive with the voidcore trinket
lofty depot
Gents, do I assume that trinket + weapon combo will be bis next raid?
Crafted myth weapon does beat it but the weapon drops from boss 3 so it's like... Do u really want to do that
lucid olive
you will probably end up doing ascension early anyway
just cause a mythic weapon is the most valuable craft you can get
unless you rng a weapon from vault or early mythic raid
sick torrent
Aha, the plot thickens!
hard wyvern
play for bis since boomy won't be slotted anyways
and craft a weapon on ur actual prog toon
oak condor
Trust guys soon prot Warrior will do more damage than us
lofty depot
staff drops from what? 3rd boss?
Yes
Could craft oh but the MH is like boss 6/7
Can't remember
lofty depot
Trust guys soon prot Warrior will do more damage than us
Nah they're gonna aura buff u, an ur playing ec
dense steeple
cant wait
distant oasis
Ec force to Starfire ST
obsidian jetty
Haste mastery + proc dmg, really good early staff
a staff that every caster in the game wants
lucid olive
a staff that every caster in the game wants
every caster already has the staff before you're allowed to kill the boss
so that doesn't matter
lofty depot
Recruitie take a shower yet or
obsidian jetty
🙅♂️
azure arrow
Trying to catch up. Are any of the changes to druids impacting EC M+ boomkin? Seems to be about all I do and all posts I've seen are about Keeper being doomed.
lofty depot
Well if keeper is dead, ur playing ec regardless
U were already playing EC in m+ tho
lucid olive
i heard wildstalker is pretty good
obsidian jetty
'i cant take a shower cuz people are sleeping"
yea, the shower is upstairs right next to their room. Will take one when I wake up later today
distant oasis
Well if keeper is dead, ur playing ec regardless
Are you talking about pure ST ?
lofty depot
I'm talking in general
Keeper was set a fire
The trees are burning
Call the fire brigade
distant oasis
Donc think they will let our "aoe spec" become the go to in all situation
azure arrow
I wasn't really asking Keeper vs EC for M+. Just asking if there have been any changes impacting EC for M+ content and if we're looking good for S3.
dense steeple
no
lofty depot
No
cloud plover
i was so close.
